Divergent Pitch Meeting
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With movies based on YA novels like The Hunger Games, The Maze Runner, Twilight and Harry Potter doing great at the box office for years, you can’t really blame Lionsgate for trying to recapture that magic with Divergent. Did they success? Hey, no.
Divergent definitely raises some questions. Like what’s with the big weird age gap between Tris and Four? What happens is Four gets scared of something new? What’s with the whole testing ceremony? Why eliminate people if you’re just trying to build a mind-controlled army? How exactly does that mind control stuff work anyway?
To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to Divergent!
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I legit forgot that Divergent wasn't Maze Runner til about 3/4 of the way through this Pitch Meeting
Oh gawd, that's right - lol. They all sorta blended together.
I just learned this from this Pitch Meeting.
I'm glad I'm not the only one 😂
I legit thought they were the same thing
The Mazevergent Game of Hosts?
I also consider Harry Potter, Golden Compass, and Narnia to be interchangeable, lol.
"Why you'd write this?" I felt that. I can't wait for the saga!
That absolutely needs to be the new catch phrase
Agreed!
Did Rian do the pitch meeting for that one Transformer movie? You know the one? This gag could return there.
I laughed so hard I had to stop the video for a second...
Ah yes, the full "Weird Re-Write Featuring Age Changes With Concerning Implications" arc!
"Get a load of this: Janine.." was perfectly timed xD
So, to stop Janine...
Thank you for saving my life with the "breathe out" at the end.
I laughed when I realised what he was doing and it ruined the challenge for me :D
But how many of the audience did we lose before that? 😏
The delivery of "why'd you write this?" couldn't be more perfect.
“That’s what I call my basement “? I feel like producer guy let one slip there. 😂
I lol’d for real life
"And that's going to break the curse."
"I thought it was a serum"
"I don't care."
That had me in stitches. I was literally thinking "how does that stop the serum?"
Hey, shut up!
The books are supposed to be a general reflection on the interconnection of evil and its solution.
Tris isn't actually special, she is biologically a normal girl. (To us.) Divergence is actually regular brain chemistry. The "regular" population of the series had their D.N.A. altered so that they had a proclivity towards ONE type of solution to life's problems.
The serum can suspend upper level mental functions because Dauntless minds all share the same mental architecture. Tris uses chemical love as a way to rewire Four's mental architecture so that the serum no longer works.
Also, it's a Y.A. novel.
@@VitaminCBable "Tris uses chemical love as a way to rewire Four's mental architecture so that the serum no longer works"
Telling someone you love them doesn't change the chemicals in THEIR brains! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA If he already loved her, then his brain would already have changed. She telling HIM that SHE loves him, wouldn't change HIS brain "architecture".
You should have started and stopped at " it's a Y.A. novel".
@@92brunodyes that’s the unrealistic part, not the original “they rewired everyone’s brains to work differently” thing.
It’s fiction, not science fiction. The goal is to tell a story, not create a realistic alternate reality. The explanation provided above at least keeps the internal logic of the story consistent, so that’s enough of an explanation for the story to function.
@92brunod it's quite difficult to prove that there is no chemical change within another person due to experience- but that's not the argument I was making.
Mental architecture is the process through which a brain experiences and builds itself to accommodate the world around us.
Theoretically, the technology in Divergent COULD exist as long as we could map predictable routes within the human mind. (Serums)
Rereading my comment, I can understand why you seem confused. The study of the development of the human mind is quite complex, to say the least.
Okay, we need a Damsel pitch meeting ASAP
Yeeeessss
Oh my lord 😂
"This is like the St George and the Damsel story, except it's not."
"Why?"
"I don't know~!" Said him while staring down at the script.
And the Beekeeper
Thanks for the recommendation, I just watched Damsel and it really screams for a Pitch Meeting. Although it is an enjoyable movie it has such a bad twist(s).
Ohh, that would be TIGHT
Okay but the whole "for/four" bit was absolutely perfect lmao
That "I don’t care" line should be in more pitch meetings!! Spot on!
The way he just looked away 😏
It’s in quite a few episodes. But yeah, more would be even better.
it really is... watch the Mario movie pitch (not the remake the OG). it has a few well placed one
Yes. That was the one I was thinking of. I don't...I do NOT care.@@c.g.silver8782
@@c.g.silver8782 thats still my fave pitch meeting, gets me every time
“Bringing people into your fear landscape is TIGHT!”
Freddy Krueger: Yeah it is!
😂
Freddy Krueger does indeed have the nicest basement as all the kids in the neighborhood can vouch for.
Sorry I’m late, traffic was a Nightmare on Elm Street!
booooooo...I love it @@Detective_L
@@Humphking - Welcome to the world of Dad Jokes - get some slippers and prepare yourself, there is much work to be done
I knew nothing at all about divergent until watching this and this is one of the best pitch meetings I've ever seen
You have to start from Screen Rant's version first then. He came far and now managed to own this Pitch Meeting and its own channel for the whole series!
@@MollyHJohns sorry, the series in unfamiliar with is divergent. Big fan of pitch meetings. I'm going to rewrite it
The only thing I know about Cats and the Twilight movies is from their Pitch Meetings and I felt the same way about those.
@@scottshanahan3827 oops nah you good. I'm sorry too!
In Divergent, people play a video game at age 16 to do a little magazine personality quiz that tells them what cult to hang out with for the rest of their lives: choices are Hippie, Fraternity, Laws?, Amish, and Supervillain. Because all the nerds are in Supervillain, frat bros punching nerds is unquestionably morally correct. No one knows how to repair buildings but neuroscience has advanced to the point that Scarecrow's fear toxin is mass-distributed for basically recreational purposes. Also for some reason guns are wildly unpredictable the closer two combatants are to each other.
You did the "all the way off my back" thing it always makes me happy
He said the thing!
“Why’d you write this” needs to be the new catchphrase for weird stuff 😂
yeah let’s turn the whole script into just catchphrases… that won’t get old
Getting old is tight.
@@PoutingScouteasy barely an inconvenience
@@PoutingScout oh wowowowowow wow
@@alveolate and those are all great but now every time you guys here a joke he tells you go “UUUUUOOHAHAHAHAH MAKE THAT YOUR NEW CATCHPHRASE” it’s fucking dumb
Omg I'm dying at the Abbot and Costello routine with Producer guy trying to figure out Four's name.😂 Just the best.
Wait. I thought that was Chris Tucker in Rush Hour with , "who are you?" "I am Yu."
@@writingafricaAbbott and Costello did it wayyyy before
"But who's on Fourth?"
@@beastalchemistVA no, Who's on First
@@writingafrica "Who's On First?" from Abbot and Costello came way before, but I doubt they were even referencing it in Rush Hour, because it's a joke that comes naturally to people about miscommunication.
"I thought it was a serum?"
"I dont care."
Perfection.
That split second of breaking the fourth wall for "that went well" was genius 😂😂😂
How was it fourth wall breaking? I guess he was sort of saying it to himself, but people do that without there being a fourth wall involved
@@bravetherainbow if you look at his eyes, for that brief moment that he says "that went well" he looks directly at the camera
@@dmochat I agree with @bravetherainbow. He didn't look into the camera because he was blinking as he said, "That went well." You can play it back in slow motion. I did.
It's still breaking the fourth wall. Ryan was speaking directly to the audience about the bit he just did.
I love the thought of Four getting startled by a shadow that he momentarily thought was a ghost and then being like “my name is Five now…”
*Sees a spider for the first time* "Make that Six ... Six is my name now"
I love how your name is paradox but you clearly have the assembly logo as your pfp
@@JessicaHelbling People change. 🙃
@@paradoxlaboratories8005 Fair enough.
The "Who's on First" style joke about Four made me so happy.
That is still the greatest sketch ever
@@vanderful2397 indeed.
"Who's on first?"
"Four is."
"For what?"
"No, not for something, just Four."
"Four people?"
"No, just one Four."
"One for whom?"
"One is for Four."
"Then who's on second?"
"Eric."
"...Okay, that makes sense."
always love when they pay homage 😊
Who's on first jokes are tight.
Oh, the "I don't care" line was hilarious, and even the tone and way Pitch guy says it. 🙂 I also liked the "take the train, and ride it into the sequel" line... Excellent meeting.
Ryan! I trusted you and almost passed out from not breathing at the end! But it turns out that breathing out without being told is actually super easy, only slightly an inconvenience so I'm okay.
"That's what I call my basement" 😂😂 I love that pitch meetings are never stale
Unlike his basement
"cool okay"
I thought the exact opposite. Like I heard that joke before, pitch meetings are getting stale.
I've never laughed so hard in a Pitch Meeting before. I love those dark jokes Ryan throws in amongst his perma-smile psychopath character personas.
Unlike Divergent
“‘Cause it works…
*looks down at script to hide his shame*
It works in different ways.”
The delivery on that line was hilarious! 😂
That bit about the age difference was hilarious
"So that's kinda wrong."
"Not in this fictional world, it's not."
"...why did you write this?"
Me in every weird anime I watched where it has that weird trope of making characters that look like children a thousand years old
Love the new mannerisms!! The little 'yessss' when the computer inconsistency is pointed out and the mumbling of how that's how it works now is great!
The other day my wife asked me why they never finished the divergent movies and in Ryan's voice I just said "because"
that works!
Blatant cash grab by splitting the last book turned an already ordinary movie series into utter garbage.
Fair enough
I thought they did finish them, I watched through this series a couple of years ago
@@ember13dpNope they decided to split the third book into two movies as was the trend back then but the third movie was so badly received they never made the second part.
The trilogy I never knew I needed: Who's on first, Who shot Twice, and Who's Four.
Were is Who shot Twice from?
@@finnanima2413It's from the first episode of Police Squad. The clip I watch is called:
Police Squad! (In Colour) - Name Confusion
@@wesleyoldham4222"I heard the shot, and as I turned, Jim fell."
-"He's the teller, Frank."
-"Jim Fell is the teller?"
-"No, Jim Johnson."
-"Who's Jim Fell?"
-"He's the auditor."
-"He had the flu, so Jim filled in."
-"Phil who?"
-"Phil Din. He's the night watchman."
Who’s on Four? The main character at the end of the movie.
@@jeffallen55
"We think we know how he did it."
"Howie couldn't have done it. He hasn't been in for weeks."
About Tris breaking the curse. I haven't read the books so what I took from that scene was that Four thought he was in simulation, he mentions how he has to look away when he kills an inoccent girl during the test. When they were in simulation instead of a random girl he for a moment sees Tris. So, when she puts a gun to herself and Four starts to look away she forces him to look at her, tells him she loves him and touches his face the same way she did during the kiss, so he realises its reality. I remember it so vividly because I genuinly thought it was very clever how they executed it.
Misrepresenting the films you mock is tight.
..... What??
@@Nikki_the_Gfor doesn't like shooting inocent girls Even in allucinations
The Abbot and Costello bit was MAGNIFICENT! Great job mate.
Lol that face when he asks "why did you write this?"
😂😂
Weinstein
That "four" joke goes straight to the pitch meeting instant classic category.
Nope, it goes all the way to Abbott & Costello's "Who's on First".
Whos on first, whats on second
@@dpearson8280 idk's on third, and I don't give a darn
Who's on first?
@@shannonpincombe8485yes exactly
The super quick "Heyshutup" seems to have replaced the "I don't know", and I wholeheartedly approve. I laugh at EVERY SINGLE "Heyshutup".
The commentary for this movie makes it a lot better. The director talks about using lots of reflections to tie into the theme of figuring out who you are and stuff
Your 'who's on first' style skit on 'four' is pure comedy brilliance.
That went pretty well
haha yeah I felt like this line was somewhat aware too. :D@@sixexgames
Yes!!
I figured it was a meta-next-level joke because this movie is so obviously derivative that he wanted to have an obviously derivative joke in it that's been done to death, with zero orginanity.
Edit- I just got a message from Ryan George, he wants to be best friends because I'm the only person who really gets his humor.
@@MaxSMoke777 Damn, look at this guys! Movin' on up fom parasocial to regularsocial.
The existence of a Divergent Pitch Meeting implies a future PM for Allegiant. If that happens, I’m sure Ryan would be the first person to have ever actually *watched* Allegiant!
Also, can you believe Divergent came out 10 years ago this month? Wow, I’m old.
Geez, 10 years already.
Hmm. What's Allegiant? Doesn't seem to ring a bell...
really? I didn't even know it existed
@@IronBenj5you're not alone
@@IronBenj5 That's where the goes.
That "four" banter was flipping awesome
5:52 This "relaxation meditation" was so good, I still feel a little light-headed.
Stress has been EXTERMINATED
Pause... "Why did you write this?"
Perfect!
1:48 "That went pretty well"
Yes. Yes, it did
and the split second of breaking the fourth wall for that line? Genius 😂
1:58 THIS EXACT MOMENT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK OF IN ANY CREATIVE WRITING SITUATION WHERE THE WRITER WRITES SOMETHING RANCID AND DISITURBING BECAUSE "it's what the characters would do" OT SOME BULLCRAP
Americans are funny and annoying, boobs appear on girls suddenly at their 18th birthday in your country?
Mr. George, you should be on SNL as an actor/writer. That “Four”-bit had me play your video over and over, brought back fond memories of “Who’s on first.” Good luck with SNL!
Eww gross SNL is terrible, Ryan can do much better writing these movie scripts.
SNL and SR are both garbage. Ryan George should consider going independent.
"Why'd you write this?" I never saw it coming and it hit me like a freight train. 🤣
"I never saw it coming and it hit me like a freight train" that's what she said 😂
@@TwoStacks217 🤦♂️🤣
The bit about her parents getting interesting and immediately dying was spot on. I remember being so frustrated by that.
That “The serum works in different ways” made me laugh hard! 😂
I feel like the Divergent series had a lot of interesting ideas, but most of them were poorly fleshed out. TBH, the tests and the mind control were the most unique parts of it, in addition to the factions. It would have been so cool if we had a greater sense of the identity of each group and how each group feels about each other. But hey, it was a movie. It movied.
Mother f'er, I randomly watched that movie years ago, forgot the name and for the love of God couldn't remember the name, but was also too lazy to Google it, even though I regularly wondered what it was. Thank you Ryan, for taking that burden off of me, so that I may finally be at peace now!
Divergent was so forgettable, I'd forgotten almost everything about it except that Janine was Rose and she should have let Jack up on the door next to her.
I've never even heard of this lol
All I remember was the dickhead trainer and how they all had to go to the bathroom together because there were no walls around the toilets.
THERE WAS ENOUGH SPACE ON THE DOOR, ROSE!
Theo James and shailene ❤oodley were magical!!
@@dougsmith6262 sure there was enough space the thing is when he tried to get on the god forsaken door it sank. It's about buoyancy people get over it 😅😭 (I've seen this movie once when I was 7)
Getting a Pitch Meeting notification during lunch is TIGHT!
same here lol. makes the work day. barely an inconvenience
It's 8 in the evening for me
TIGHT! TIGHT TIGHT!!
It’s 22:00 for me
Found the westcoaster
Thanks for the moment of relaxation at the end of your video, I needed this.
"So if he sees a ghost and gets spooked he's gotta change his name to Five?" Pure comedy
The delivery at 5:02 made this the best bit in the video
that was just perfection
I feel the same about 2:03 lol
I hope “yessss” becomes a new catch phrase. This is the second pitch it’s been in and it cracks me up every time.
Good job on the variation on 'whos on first', that was very well done.
That outtro. Made me wanna re-like. Love the work mate. Bravo
Watching Pitch Meeting instead of working is TIGHT
Please, Ryan, do a JUPITER ASCENDING pitch meeting !
And a District 9!
And "The Creator" too!
Do ALL THE MOVIES!!!!!!
Oh hells yeah
And Valeryian!!
Great editing job on the “Four” bit. 👏🏾
These just keep getting better and better. Your videos are one of our highlights of the week. Great job Ryan!
Seeing a pitch meeting that was posted 1 minute ago is TIGHT!!!!
wHAt?
18 min. Still TIGHT!!!
I can confirm, it was tight 16 minutes later.
21 minutes!
Definitely Tight 😂
1:30 Loving the Abbot & Costello-like comedy!
3rd base
@@gregoryferber3231that's where I got with your mom, I decided
I was looking for hope and Ryan gives it to us. Not only the fact that he made the joke, but that so many knew where it came from. My day is made.
I love that the recommended video at the end is Fantastic Four
Thank you for the breathing exercise at the end, it was really helpful. I absolutely did not check the runtime before commiting! Nope, never did that.
You would expect Dauntless numbers to be much smaller than the others, due to the higher chance of injury when falling off buildings, compared to admin work or farming. But I guess that is barely an inconvinience.
nah they just get all the stupid people which is propotionally higher than the other types and win the numbers game
Also the ejection of people from society for not passing the test. 😅
Farming is usually the second or third most dangerous job in America, behind only pilots/navigators and occasionally truck drivers when looking at deaths per 100,000 workers...the only sector of the economy more fatal to work in statistically than agriculture is mining.
@@4tr0phy yes, but that is only because extreme parkour without any safety measures isn't a common career path.
Smaller numbers? Think on this: "In the most irresponsible age in your life you have to choose to belong to the nerds, the simps, the backbreaking laborers, or the super cool guys! And this is forever, no backsies!". It's a miracle this society is not 100% cops.
Ryan in every Revisited Pitch Meeting: "I think this bit went on too long. If I was making this today I would have shortened it up."
Also Ryan: 15 seconds of "Who's on First"
But a *really heckin' **_fast_* 15 seconds! XD
😂😂 same thought. I enjoyed it all
Hey, it's a classic for a reason and Ryan really pulled it off well. 😂
I love the revisited but Ryan has definitely inadvertently trained us to see the things he doesn't like in his content lol
@@euca8704 Oh dang, what if this was really all just a way to train the next generation of film/show script writers so better things get made?! We've been had!
Watching Ryan with my morning cuppa and I was all in for the quick medication. Took the deep breath in and then burst out in laughter. His writing is only partially his genius, dude emotes perfectly!
MAN! So many good chuckles on this one! Loved it! Thanks and God bless! :)
Pausing work just to watch a new pitch meeting episode is TIGHT!
yesssss
I never watched these movies but the Pitch Meeting is beautiful
“Why did you write this?”
Good choice, I don't believe I made it through this movie. Think I attempted the second one too and got about ten minutes before I died of boredom.
@@rickstaism my girlfriends were all obsessed with it but it never caught my interest and now in happy I didn’t try, especially because I got to learn about it via a Pitch Meeting
don't, it's bad
I tried to watch Divergent I really did.
It’s a fun watch!!
You pulled off a perfect Abbot and Costello bit? NICE!
Thank you for those several moments of panic before you said “and breathe out”
He went full-on, "who's on first?" there...awesome!
The Eric and Jeanine jokes friggin SENT me lmaoooooo
Actually one of my favorite pitch meetings in quite some time. Great work!
Thank you, Ryan George, I did enjoy the video. YA novels are a gold mine for Pitch Meetings.
"If the MC got an inconclusive score on the test thing, why didn't they just make her factionless from the start?"
"Hey, shut up!"
Apparently the tester Tori had a Divergent brother who wa skilled for being found out and being Factionless is awful so yeah
The “Who’s on first” bit about Four had me dying
Four whats?
Love this channel, in just under one hour I can watch several movies, and it’s all free. Thanks pitch meeting guy!
5:52 I feel so much more relaxed now, thank you for that.
You should most definitely do Starship Troopers, because y'know, why not.
Seconded. That movie is perfect for the pitch meeting treatment. Nazi uniforms are TIGHT!
"Isn't this a book adaptation?"
"Yes."
"Is that in the book?"
"I didn't read the book."
Thank you for making outros long enough that I can consider the suggested videos, and tap on them if I want, before RUclips says “NOPE HAD YOUR CHANCE”
I forgot that I actually saw this movie until they reached the Fear Landscape. But I had no clue how it continued or ended. It left such a deep impression on me.
“How did you come up with the sorting process for the different classes?”
“Well I watched this movie called Harry Potter and the stuff”
“That works”
The delivery of "it works in different ways" is actually killing me
help
I've got a thumbs up. Does that help?
@@lisaroper421 Now you've brought me back to watch it again, I am not okay
@@hulkaiden6178 Press stop!! You can do it!
Okay it's hard to find faults in the pitch meetings, but the reason why the tests take place was explained in the movies as well, it's so that the characters know what they are good at - it's similar to an aptitutude test before choosing your career, you know your strengths but you may follow something you are genuinely interested about, or are responsbible for following, regardless of the test results.
Unfortunately Ryan seems to be getting more and more bits from Cinena Sins which are mostly explained by paying attention or accepting basic editing and storytelling conventions.
Which doesn't negate the logic behind sneaking her out the back door...if the test is just an aptitude test, and she still gets to choose her path, who really cares about her results aside from her?
@@nickmonks9563 It's because in this dystopian world, being a divergent is basically a crime, because they are treated as dangerous people owing to their potential. It was explained in the movie as well
@@forhax4794but why?
The only bad guys are the one faction who want to take over the government.
Why is being divergent a bad thing in this world?
@@np9145 Divergent individuals are dangerous to the faction society because a Divergent mind can mentally control a simulation and therefore break free from the limitations of the factions. They are a threat to existing authority basically.
we love you Ryan!!! especially the 'meditation' at the end!
Dude your credit sketches get me every time you are top notch sir
That Abbott and Costello bit was GOLD.
Who’s on 1st?
@@annierebeccaa
That's the man's name!
@@Za_Lup Who?
@@themr_wilson Yes!
I can't wait for you to cover the entire Divergent series. Just every single movie, especially the final one
BRO if he did an entire pitch meeting for the last one and then producer guy was just like "nah" LMAO
They never made the final one :P
@@rickstaismYou found the joke then!
@@CRiley-zx1ws'So you've got a movie for me?'
'No'.
I thought this was the final one.
Yup adding "why'd you write this" to the compendium of pitch meeting quotes
Thanks for the breath out, really helped me!
I love the moments where writer guy actually realizes that he's written something incoherent.
"Cause it works...somet--it works in different ways!" So damn funny!
Divergent, Insurgent & Allegiant. I watched all of them & just now understood the concept. If they make another one, I hope it'll be called Detergent
The planned sequel was called “Not Urgent”. Upon reading the title, all the producers put it aside and buried it under whatever, like the script for Sharknado 8 or something.
It was going to be called Resurgent, but then they noticed they were about to spell out DIARRHEA, so they canceled the series.
Deterrent more likely.
I love the Abbott and Costello bit you threw in here. Well done!
“Hey, shut up” kills me every time!🤣
👏 That Abbot and Costello "whose on first?" Routine with four/for was terrific!
I was feeling down and needed that end credit scene. I took a deep breath in until i burst out laughing when i realised you'll never tell me to release it, and i'll just be left staring at your blank face. Surprised you let it go, but 20 seconds is Tight.
That "Deep Breath In" really got me, had me laughing more than the rest of the video lmao
Holy christ the "four" bit was hysterical. Damn I love you my man😅
Who's On First
That For/Four skit was great - must have been complicated to make, but keep it up! :)
This is probably one you recorded in your bank for post baby, since it's likely part of a series I assume you wouldnt release it knowing your recording schedule is about to disappear unless you had that others made, so all that to say, congrats on fatherhood! So happy for you!
Great tribute to the “who’s on first” routine with the number 4, loved it.
I love whenever you do a who's on first style joke. Always gets me
Riding trains into sequels is tight!