🛫Pilots! Two questions for you... What is your Aviation dream? What steps are you taking to advance yourself 1% more towards that dream every day? Let me know!👇
Right now just hoping FAA clears me for medical stuff from the VA and then plotting my course for financing and whether I go the college route with my GI Bill
I loved this presentation. I'm 67 and semi-retired, want to learn to fly but not looking for another career. One thing that really attracts me is the idea of being a tour pilot, flying tourists around to see the sights from the air. I'm in Phoenix, AZ, and we've got lots of gorgeous scenery around us. The Grand Canyon is about 90 minutes away in a 182, and there's Sedona, Payson, Flagstaff, and three totally different types of climates throughout the state. While I don't like dealing with people, I'd love to be able to share the views from the air with others who would enjoy that experience but don't want to learn to fly themselves. I looked in Google and there are TONS of tour flight outfits in cities all around the country, so it may be a more fertile opportunity than surveying or ferrying, but it's not something I've heard anybody mention. In many cities, most of them are shorter flights in helicopters; but here longer flights in smaller fixed-wing craft are probably better. I'm curious what it takes to get to that point once you have a PPL? I think an instrument rating is important for night flying and the occasional weather, but not CFI. I'm guessing that just carrying passengers is a whole 'nuther level of risk and insurance beyond just a pilot and maybe a co-pilot. Is it worth it? (I've got .... hmmm ... wow ... just looked it up ... 3300 hours driving for Uber, Lyft, and Amazon Flex since 2014. I much prefer delivering packages than dealing with people. But I have to say that the most enjoyable riders are tourists who love to learn about the city. I run into natives all the time, but most riders tell me they meet very few of us. The snowbirds LOVE to ask me questions. They're really a lot of fun.)
I've long dreamed of the idea of becoming a commercial pilot (not an airline pilot). The biggest things that held me back was 1. High training cost (around $90K+ for a two year certification program). 2. The uncertainty of demand for pilots...that there's not enough jobs being out there unless you're willing to fly for the airlines. 3 The relatively low average pay for commercial pilots (around $40k/year) again, unless you're willing to fly for the airline which can pay six figures. $90K+ in debt to only make 40k/year sounds like a surefire way to be in debt for the rest of your life. Unless you're rich, it seems like the only options are to go through the military to get the training or take a gamble with a massive loan.
Don't be afraid to go outside of the north America, or Europe markets because too much competition try Africa that is the fastest growing market in the aviation world rite now and with your American or European training it will be well recognized and respected alot of Americans are going there and living well because they getting more for their money
@@marxxmann8758 I didn't think American pilots could work overseas so easily. I didn't think the training, certification, licensing would be taken as legally valid in other countries. That it doesn't transfer completely. Like an American commercial chopper pilot with FAA ratings, certifications, etc can't just apply for work in Canada, Europe or Africa, right? They'd have to get the required training/certifications according to the unique standards of whatever country they wish to work, right?
I’m somewhat introverted but really want to be a cfi, not just because it leads to the airlines but I feel like it would be so rewarding and fulfilling to see your student go from not having a clue what they’re doing, to doing there first solo, and then check ride. Seeing the joy of your student succeeding knowing that was you not so long ago, making someone’s dream a reality
I’m a pilot for a major cargo carrier. And I’m 100percent extroverted. Just because you are extroverted doesn’t mean you need to be on the passenger side of things. I flew passengers for more than a decade, and switched over. It was a very calculated move, and I’ve never once looked back.
That’s what I’m hoping to do. I’m 36 and starting over to chase my dream from being a lineman for 16 yrs. Do they still require you to have a 4 yr degree or are their waivers you could get?
@@abramweston9873I have a friend that flies for an airline in Hawaii the year he graduated was the year airlines stopped requiring a 4yr degree; now if the big ones overlook you because of it that’s a different story
Bookmarking this. Been watching your vids. I'm 40. Left a career in law enforcement early, trying to decide what next. Took a discovery flight, my wife got it for me because she knows I've always wanted to fly. And it put a bug in me, trying to decide if I can make the jump and succeed.
I'm on the same path, brother! I'm 44 with 17 years of law enforcement (Texas). I signed up with a flight academy and started ground school last week. Mandatory retirement for the airlines is 65, so we have plenty of time. Let's get it done!
@@rcard1979 get it brother. Just got out after 6 years on the job. Looking around it was the best choice I've ever made. Whatever you do it will feel great the day you don't need to worry about the radio, the liability, and the politics of policing. I can't believe anyone is willing to do the job anymore.
omg this is amazing! thank you! I’m an introvert and struggled with the idea of working in the airlines until now. You’re doing such a great thing for people!
A Pilot's Life for Me...Thanks so much for the graphic. I'm in instrument/commercial training program currently and beginning to research the possibilities. That was very helpful.
Appreciate the content in your video, helps with a visual path to a career for aspiring pilots. Might be worthy to include some of the Minimum Flight hour requirements to demonstrate what is needed in each branch to be realistic. I recently passed my Multi-Engine Check ride and hold Commercial pilot's license and IFR rating as well as an aircraft owner. With roughly 500 hours in ASEL and 26 hours AMEL. What I find challenging in the career path is the minimum requirements required to "branch off". Sure, you can most likely find a position with 300-500 hours flying banners or jump plane for skydiving, but it becomes more challenging regarding some of the other "branches" in your model. For instance, Cargo... You can probably get a job flying a Caravan or similar single engine. But to step up into Cargo where you are making a decent salary i.e., Flying cargo in FedEx turbine aircraft you are going to need more like 1500 hours total time and 75 hours IFR and 75 hours night. This introduces an issue, flying 2-3 hours per day in the Caravan is going to take some time to get to 1500 hours total time or in my case an additional 1000 hours. Let's say you are flying entry level position 2 hours per day delivering Cargo in a Caravan, that's 10 hours per week multiplied by 52 weeks per year it would take you 2 years (hopefully) to get the additional 1000 hours needed give or take. The point I am trying to make is seems becoming a CFI would be the next logical step after Commercial Pilot rating. You could potentially fly CFI 20-30 hours per week and achieve 1500 hours in 1 Year. Not to mention one would become an Aviation Encyclopedia by teaching others and thus teaching yourself after the 1-year mark. My 2 cents.
A pilot’s life for me! Agree with the sides of the tree…definitely agree with goal setting…disagree about jumping between branches. The big thing to understand is that in aviation, any job change almost always correlates to “starting over”…but hopefully you’ve researched and decided ahead of time that the change is worth it!
8:49 "Don't do what the FAA tells you to do [...]" 🤣 Great video my man. I'm currently well below the Commercial stage, however I would assume that the usual CFI->Regional->Legacy path offers the best way to switch later on. With the money you make at any legacy carrier you dont have the financial pressure. I'd argue that almost any pilot will fly cargo, skydivers or banner at one point or another to build hours. If they then move on to the Airlines only to realize its not for them its easier to switch back than for someone who has flown AG/Fire to make the jump to the Airlines
Haha, for the record, I did say after that "Of course, follow regulations." But regardless, good points you make here and I appreciate your input and comment!
Defiantly the other way around, getting into Ag/fire isn’t easy, it takes knowing people and starting with working on the ground even though you’ve got 1000’s of hours
I just found this video and definitely enjoyed it. I like the tree concept and the idea of picking an aviation path that works best for you. I might take a bit of an issue with how you have defined "Extrovert" vs "Introvert". An Introvert (which I am - although I'm close to the line between the two based on many of the tests I've taken) is not someone who is shy or doesn't enjoy being around people. Introverts simply don't enjoy excessive amounts of social interaction and need to replenish their "battery" when that occurs (meaning taking a bit of time to be on their own). If you are a FO in the cockpit of an ERJ 175 or A320 how much social interaction are you really getting? No more than you would get if you were in a 747 flying cargo let's be honest. Same for Corporate or Charter. You are not hanging out with those Execs having in-depth conversations flying a Global or G280. It's just not happening. You are basically their limo driver. They might be pleasant to you (or ignore you) but it wouldn't be enough to drain an introvert's proverbial battery. Other than that - great video :)
I'm 53 and working on my Private. Too old for an airline job and not interested in building time as a CFI. I'm ok if I end up somewhere on the right side in the next few years. Or in my own plane flying where ever I want to. LOL
I’ve watched the whole video and it seems like your best bet would be to get the CFI regardless of what you want just because that would cover your base in case you decide to be an Agg pilot and 5 years in decide it’s too boring and want to change to a regional. You’d then have CFI done and have a better shot going into a regional to work your way up . I’m just thinking logically as a student. I initially wanted to have a cushy corporate pilot job with a pension and maybe some stocks in my Ira as a bonus or charter some rich people around. But now I’m in my early 30’s saving my money and still dreaming I can finish my private (I got 30 in flight time before I ran out of money) now I’m considering cargo after watching your video
Yeah that seems to be a common thing. I highly recommend cargo as it will stick you in the real world really fast. Have you done 1000 hours in an airplane, or one hour 1000 times as a CFI? Just saying.
Great video! Really helped add some perspective and narrow my focus. I’m just starting so things were pretty overwhelming with all of the possibilities out there.
GREAT Podcasts. Super helpful. I'm 2.0 aviation career. I LOVE learning, I LOVE people and customer service yet I am coming off 20 years as an Educator. At 55, with 420TT want to make the most of time left to fly. I just want to fly - (NOT airlines) and not teach. I have Commercial with Instrument, High Perf., TAA and AGI, IGI, spin training endorsement. I am finishing up my Multi training this month - July 2024. Time to look for a job. I don't have access ($$$) to gain the experience (like cirrus training) necessary for Part 91 Corporate like LIFT in Austin, Texas. You spoke about Ferry flying - I would LOVE that. How do you do that? My ultimate goal is to build hours - get my seaplane rating and "retire" as a seaplane charter pilot in the Caribbean - someday! In the meantime I am SO willing and excited to ferry, pipeline, skydive....etc. I know networking is KEY, but I have not many connections. I feel like getting the first JOB will be a great way to network. Do you have any more advice on how to get noticed and hired? I appreciate your enthusiasm so much! - Thx again, Molly
Thanks for your comments. If you want to ferry, I would start by contacting aircraft brokers and asking them if they need fairy pilots to move aircraft for them.
I'm an introvert, but I work well with others. I played football, and was in the Army, so I understand how to work and thrive within the team. I do have to recharge when I'm on my personal time though, lol. Being an introvert does not mean you don't work well with others. It means being around people is draining. There is a difference.
so I’m speaking from someone who is just getting my pilot license i’m just starting very soon and i’m currently 26. these are my concerns: 1.) i want to make more money then my current job as a low voltage tech which is 42 an hour 2.) i want to be able to be home the majority of the time and from what i’ve heard from the typical airline pilot route is that they are gone 2 weeks out of the month. my main goal is to be with my family the majority of the time. 3.) if anyone knows all possible career paths so i can evaluate every option based on my personal requirements i would be extremely grateful. i Love flying with a passion so much so i don’t care what job i’m doing it just has to meet these requirements of family time and 60k+ a year.
According to this tree, where would you classify an Aerobatic Pilot and Air Force Pilot? And what's the difference between Charter flying and Corporate flying?
What ab someone is extroverted and likes the crew environment but doesn’t like teaching ? I could see myself doing charter or cargo but pipeline looks like so much fun
Airlines have a ton of dirty laundry in their operations....everyone looks up to them due to their size of appearance! No you don't need to be a CFI in order to fly for the airlines..... Please only be a CFI if you have the craft within you it is not for everyone! Otherwise, you will put a black eye on the CFI industry...the hours you build are a buy product, there are other ways of building time. Like glider towing, earning a Single engine sea add on, ...At the private pilot yes you can make an income example: UAS, FOI+BGI and/AGI or IGI, insurance agent, Ramp Control Tower, just to mane a few...You can earn CFI-Sport at the 150 hour phase.
This is a great video, I’m 43 and used to enjoy being around and talking to people but now I feel that I’m older I’m changing and love a bit of both. I was thinking of going to The CFI path which deals with only one person per day and maybe even become a DPE some day. I just don’t think I can deal with all the drama that happens with the airlines. Do you have a test I can take to determine if I’m More extrovert or introverted?
There is a test out there but I don’t know one specifically. I would say you know yourself probably better than anybody else and if you feel like it would be difficult then maybe try something different and see how that goes. Either way best of luck!
Great video however, I disagree, you can jump from one side of the tree to the other. Time is time and if you’ve got a ton of hours as an ag pilot, the regionals will absolutely hire you that’s like saying I’m not hireable flying my own aircraft around because I’m not a CFI. I can absolutely go to the regionals and that is my plan. Many people before me have done that.
I would love to be able to be a single engine pilot flying banners or surveying, but unfortunately there is no way i can get the money to do so ... I cant get a loan myself and dont have a cosigner available, my family stopped communicating with me years ago due to things beyond my control and not of my doing. I wish i could rewind time and trade in my college degree that has gotten me nowhere for twenty years, for a pilot license, but unfortunately that isnt reality. So to all those that have access to make this dream happen for themselves, go for it, im rooting for you, genuinely. If there was a way for me to be able to afford the cost, id be joining you all in the skies, its been my dream for years ... But not making enough money to even afford a place to live, flying is a pipe dream at this point for me ....
But how do you build enough hours to be a skydive pilot without building hours as a CFI? Out of pocket money for hundreds of hrs to meet min requirements?
Honestly man, i still dont really know what i want to do. I know i want to be a pilot(Currently in the process of becoming a flight attendant, i figured already being in an airline, regardless of role would help me to establish a network). But yet idk if i want to be an airline pilot or a Cargo pilot(Like UPS, Fedex etc) it probably would be more logical to just stick to airline pilot since i already am gonna be working for an airline but idk. Honestly i didnt know i wanted to be a pilot till i got on a plane for my Flight attendant Interview.
I dont want to be an airline pilot (not a huge fan of how much time away from home there is, but otherwise its cool) but id be happy to work anywhere else on the tree that has half decent home/work balance. If i want to make serious cash, what path could i go down? Is there any path in cargo, private, regional that is in the higher 6 figure territory? Im trying to find a viable career path and see if its worth it
I understand that in order to work in most major airlines in the U.S.A, you need a degree. I'm an international student. If for instance I want to work in the U.S.A someday, will the airlines recognize and accept my foreign degree? Given that I've already obtained the necessary licenses and hours.
I'm a 354-hour commercial pilot with ASEL, AMEL, instrument, complex, and high performance ratings/endorsements, time building to 500 hours, and I'm definitely in the introverted group. Although even so, I'm currently on the Skywest pilot pathway. I figure I'll do my regionals stint at Skywest and see if I like flying pax, and if so go to Delta, Allegiant, or Avelo. If not, go to Atlas, FedEx, UPS, or Everts. And if I happen to still not like the 121 world, then I'd go corporate/Charter, 135 Cargo, or Aerial Firefighting with the likes of Dauntless Air or Cal Fire. (Where else can you tactically fly a freaking OV-10 Bronco or S-2 Tracker as a civilian!?). In the meantime I'm time building and looking for a Skydiving, banner towing, ferry pilot, Aerial Survey, or pipeline patrol job.
How hard is the schooling to become a airline pilot? I hear there is 80% drop out rate, also, if one becomes an airline pilot then decide you don't want that, would you still have the training to do everything on the tree?
Just receiving my PPL, IFR, and working on CPL, what would you recommend for building 500 hours till I can fly part 135, I would love to save as much money yet keep my training skills. Any advice on the jobs or would renting a plane be effective. Just asking your professional opinion, love your content,thanks
If you have the resources to do it, time building via renting is a good option if you can find someone to split time with, or a place that has really cheap planes. Rocky Mountain Flight School in Colorado for example has Cessna 150/152's at $60 and $75 per hour WET that are tailored to time builders.
Hey this is a little off-topic, kind of but I am currently 18 years old and want to be a pilot but want to do a the Air Force route. Do you have any knowledge regarding Air Force pilots to civilian route?
A tree isn't a very good metaphore for a pilot career, at least as presented here it's a really forced analogy, square peg in a round hole type of deal. Certainly a solid initial hypothesis that was worth exploring, but it misses the mark when taken this far.
Hopefully I won’t have to sale t-shirts on RUclips after I get my commercial to make ends meet. So many pilots on RUclips. All the time it takes to edit and upload videos when do you fly?
Bottom line Ag pilots makes the most money on this tree !!! But it is the most dangerous and difficult to get in to and you need some big balls!! Bad day for me $1000 average day $2000 good day $3000 great days $3500 12 hours a day 7 days a week July to October!
What pilot career should i go to if i want to be home every night. If i cant, what can i do that gives me like 10 days of working and the rest of the month off
Great video, but I disagree with the introverted and extroverted viewpoint. You are what you think you are so if you keep telling yourself that you're introverted their fore I should forget being an airline pilot is not a good view of things. If you really want something, you'll work hard to obtain the skills necessary to get there and there is no reason an introverted person couldn't be extroverted and vise verse. Personally, I would say don't look too deep into extrovert vs introvert thing because you'll miss a ton of opportunities because you think you're a certain way. (I'm speaking from experience)
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🛫Pilots! Two questions for you... What is your Aviation dream? What steps are you taking to advance yourself 1% more towards that dream every day? Let me know!👇
Right now just hoping FAA clears me for medical stuff from the VA and then plotting my course for financing and whether I go the college route with my GI Bill
I loved this presentation. I'm 67 and semi-retired, want to learn to fly but not looking for another career.
One thing that really attracts me is the idea of being a tour pilot, flying tourists around to see the sights from the air. I'm in Phoenix, AZ, and we've got lots of gorgeous scenery around us. The Grand Canyon is about 90 minutes away in a 182, and there's Sedona, Payson, Flagstaff, and three totally different types of climates throughout the state. While I don't like dealing with people, I'd love to be able to share the views from the air with others who would enjoy that experience but don't want to learn to fly themselves.
I looked in Google and there are TONS of tour flight outfits in cities all around the country, so it may be a more fertile opportunity than surveying or ferrying, but it's not something I've heard anybody mention. In many cities, most of them are shorter flights in helicopters; but here longer flights in smaller fixed-wing craft are probably better. I'm curious what it takes to get to that point once you have a PPL? I think an instrument rating is important for night flying and the occasional weather, but not CFI. I'm guessing that just carrying passengers is a whole 'nuther level of risk and insurance beyond just a pilot and maybe a co-pilot. Is it worth it?
(I've got .... hmmm ... wow ... just looked it up ... 3300 hours driving for Uber, Lyft, and Amazon Flex since 2014. I much prefer delivering packages than dealing with people. But I have to say that the most enjoyable riders are tourists who love to learn about the city. I run into natives all the time, but most riders tell me they meet very few of us. The snowbirds LOVE to ask me questions. They're really a lot of fun.)
I've long dreamed of the idea of becoming a commercial pilot (not an airline pilot). The biggest things that held me back was 1. High training cost (around $90K+ for a two year certification program). 2. The uncertainty of demand for pilots...that there's not enough jobs being out there unless you're willing to fly for the airlines. 3 The relatively low average pay for commercial pilots (around $40k/year) again, unless you're willing to fly for the airline which can pay six figures. $90K+ in debt to only make 40k/year sounds like a surefire way to be in debt for the rest of your life. Unless you're rich, it seems like the only options are to go through the military to get the training or take a gamble with a massive loan.
Don't be afraid to go outside of the north America, or Europe markets because too much competition try Africa that is the fastest growing market in the aviation world rite now and with your American or European training it will be well recognized and respected alot of Americans are going there and living well because they getting more for their money
@@marxxmann8758 I didn't think American pilots could work overseas so easily. I didn't think the training, certification, licensing would be taken as legally valid in other countries. That it doesn't transfer completely. Like an American commercial chopper pilot with FAA ratings, certifications, etc can't just apply for work in Canada, Europe or Africa, right? They'd have to get the required training/certifications according to the unique standards of whatever country they wish to work, right?
@@meatloaf5772 wondering the same. Good question.
save the money working and go get the training
@@Ludwing730 yeah easier said than done. Do you know how long it takes a working man to save up $90K?
I’m somewhat introverted but really want to be a cfi, not just because it leads to the airlines but I feel like it would be so rewarding and fulfilling to see your student go from not having a clue what they’re doing, to doing there first solo, and then check ride. Seeing the joy of your student succeeding knowing that was you not so long ago, making someone’s dream a reality
Absolutely. Thanks for your input! 😎
I’m a pilot for a major cargo carrier. And I’m 100percent extroverted. Just because you are extroverted doesn’t mean you need to be on the passenger side of things. I flew passengers for more than a decade, and switched over. It was a very calculated move, and I’ve never once looked back.
That’s what I’m hoping to do. I’m 36 and starting over to chase my dream from being a lineman for 16 yrs. Do they still require you to have a 4 yr degree or are their waivers you could get?
@@abramweston9873As far as I know, degrees arent required. Just your required pilot certifications
@@abramweston9873I have a friend that flies for an airline in Hawaii the year he graduated was the year airlines stopped requiring a 4yr degree; now if the big ones overlook you because of it that’s a different story
How often do you get to come home
Why did you make the move?
Bookmarking this. Been watching your vids. I'm 40. Left a career in law enforcement early, trying to decide what next. Took a discovery flight, my wife got it for me because she knows I've always wanted to fly. And it put a bug in me, trying to decide if I can make the jump and succeed.
Nicee, I'm 30 and wondering if it's too late but you've inspired me to keep looking into it. I wish you the best on your journey man!
@@liquidmist81 get it bud. 35 years is a lot of flight time . Honestly 25 is probably enough to have a career, with a lowered ceiling. Go get it!
Hey man, it's never to late to start. I know active pilots well into their 80s. Although they're pretty crazy 😂
I'm on the same path, brother! I'm 44 with 17 years of law enforcement (Texas). I signed up with a flight academy and started ground school last week. Mandatory retirement for the airlines is 65, so we have plenty of time. Let's get it done!
@@rcard1979 get it brother. Just got out after 6 years on the job. Looking around it was the best choice I've ever made. Whatever you do it will feel great the day you don't need to worry about the radio, the liability, and the politics of policing. I can't believe anyone is willing to do the job anymore.
omg this is amazing! thank you! I’m an introvert and struggled with the idea of working in the airlines until now. You’re doing such a great thing for people!
You got this! Good luck with your career! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
I think what type of aircraft you dream of flying is very important as well
I am an introvert and before watching this video I always wanted to do cargo
Thanks for video!
Glad it was helpful! Go for it!
I definitely want to go airline for the benefits/pay. But the cargo route also sounds sweet for a bit less pay from what I’ve heard
Agreed. Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
A Pilot's life for me. Thank you for your suggestion as I'm starting my career!
Great to hear!
This is a great start BUT more information is needed. Schedule? Pay? Flexibility? Longevity? Future out look??
Difficult to say. Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
Great video that opened my eyes to the possibilities of flying
So happy I was able to be of help!
A Pilot's Life for Me...Thanks so much for the graphic. I'm in instrument/commercial training program currently and beginning to research the possibilities. That was very helpful.
Appreciate the content in your video, helps with a visual path to a career for aspiring pilots. Might be worthy to include some of the Minimum Flight hour requirements to demonstrate what is needed in each branch to be realistic. I recently passed my Multi-Engine Check ride and hold Commercial pilot's license and IFR rating as well as an aircraft owner. With roughly 500 hours in ASEL and 26 hours AMEL. What I find challenging in the career path is the minimum requirements required to "branch off". Sure, you can most likely find a position with 300-500 hours flying banners or jump plane for skydiving, but it becomes more challenging regarding some of the other "branches" in your model. For instance, Cargo... You can probably get a job flying a Caravan or similar single engine. But to step up into Cargo where you are making a decent salary i.e., Flying cargo in FedEx turbine aircraft you are going to need more like 1500 hours total time and 75 hours IFR and 75 hours night. This introduces an issue, flying 2-3 hours per day in the Caravan is going to take some time to get to 1500 hours total time or in my case an additional 1000 hours. Let's say you are flying entry level position 2 hours per day delivering Cargo in a Caravan, that's 10 hours per week multiplied by 52 weeks per year it would take you 2 years (hopefully) to get the additional 1000 hours needed give or take. The point I am trying to make is seems becoming a CFI would be the next logical step after Commercial Pilot rating. You could potentially fly CFI 20-30 hours per week and achieve 1500 hours in 1 Year. Not to mention one would become an Aviation Encyclopedia by teaching others and thus teaching yourself after the 1-year mark. My 2 cents.
Those are definitely some valid points and it does depend on the person. Thank you for taking the time to add your input!
@@CommercialPIC thanks for the great video.
A Pilot's Life for Me... Great advice! Trying to figure out this path right now!
A pilot’s life for me! As I’m still figuring out exactly what I want to do, this was helpful!!
A Pilot's Life for Me! Thank you for this ❤
You bet! 😊
A pilot’s life for me!
Agree with the sides of the tree…definitely agree with goal setting…disagree about jumping between branches. The big thing to understand is that in aviation, any job change almost always correlates to “starting over”…but hopefully you’ve researched and decided ahead of time that the change is worth it!
8:49 "Don't do what the FAA tells you to do [...]" 🤣
Great video my man. I'm currently well below the Commercial stage, however I would assume that the usual CFI->Regional->Legacy path offers the best way to switch later on. With the money you make at any legacy carrier you dont have the financial pressure. I'd argue that almost any pilot will fly cargo, skydivers or banner at one point or another to build hours. If they then move on to the Airlines only to realize its not for them its easier to switch back than for someone who has flown AG/Fire to make the jump to the Airlines
Haha, for the record, I did say after that "Of course, follow regulations." But regardless, good points you make here and I appreciate your input and comment!
Defiantly the other way around, getting into Ag/fire isn’t easy, it takes knowing people and starting with working on the ground even though you’ve got 1000’s of hours
A pilots life for me!! Can’t wait to be in the group!
Great info here! Lots of options to get where you want to go.
A Pilots life for me. Awesome Video.
Thank you so much! This video really helped clear things up for me, and helped narrow down the options I'm considering
I just found this video and definitely enjoyed it. I like the tree concept and the idea of picking an aviation path that works best for you. I might take a bit of an issue with how you have defined "Extrovert" vs "Introvert". An Introvert (which I am - although I'm close to the line between the two based on many of the tests I've taken) is not someone who is shy or doesn't enjoy being around people. Introverts simply don't enjoy excessive amounts of social interaction and need to replenish their "battery" when that occurs (meaning taking a bit of time to be on their own). If you are a FO in the cockpit of an ERJ 175 or A320 how much social interaction are you really getting? No more than you would get if you were in a 747 flying cargo let's be honest. Same for Corporate or Charter. You are not hanging out with those Execs having in-depth conversations flying a Global or G280. It's just not happening. You are basically their limo driver. They might be pleasant to you (or ignore you) but it wouldn't be enough to drain an introvert's proverbial battery.
Other than that - great video :)
Good luck with your career! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
A pilot’s life for me.
Great video. Appreciate your aviation career advice!
I'm 53 and working on my Private. Too old for an airline job and not interested in building time as a CFI. I'm ok if I end up somewhere on the right side in the next few years. Or in my own plane flying where ever I want to. LOL
Great job on this video thank you. Great way to explain this with a tree.
I’ve watched the whole video and it seems like your best bet would be to get the CFI regardless of what you want just because that would cover your base in case you decide to be an Agg pilot and 5 years in decide it’s too boring and want to change to a regional. You’d then have CFI done and have a better shot going into a regional to work your way up . I’m just thinking logically as a student. I initially wanted to have a cushy corporate pilot job with a pension and maybe some stocks in my Ira as a bonus or charter some rich people around. But now I’m in my early 30’s saving my money and still dreaming I can finish my private (I got 30 in flight time before I ran out of money) now I’m considering cargo after watching your video
Yeah that seems to be a common thing. I highly recommend cargo as it will stick you in the real world really fast. Have you done 1000 hours in an airplane, or one hour 1000 times as a CFI? Just saying.
The question is, how the hell do you climb airline pilot branch after CPL...
Great video! Really helped add some perspective and narrow my focus. I’m just starting so things were pretty overwhelming with all of the possibilities out there.
Fantastic video, thanks for the insight.
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Excellent points Sir. Pick a path and commit. I understand it much better now🦾
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Loved this. Introverted for sure
I needed this video thankyou
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GREAT Podcasts. Super helpful. I'm 2.0 aviation career. I LOVE learning, I LOVE people and customer service yet I am coming off 20 years as an Educator. At 55, with 420TT want to make the most of time left to fly. I just want to fly - (NOT airlines) and not teach.
I have Commercial with Instrument, High Perf., TAA and AGI, IGI, spin training endorsement. I am finishing up my Multi training this month - July 2024.
Time to look for a job. I don't have access ($$$) to gain the experience (like cirrus training) necessary for Part 91 Corporate like LIFT in Austin, Texas.
You spoke about Ferry flying - I would LOVE that. How do you do that?
My ultimate goal is to build hours - get my seaplane rating and "retire" as a seaplane charter pilot in the Caribbean - someday! In the meantime I am SO willing and excited to ferry, pipeline, skydive....etc.
I know networking is KEY, but I have not many connections. I feel like getting the first JOB will be a great way to network.
Do you have any more advice on how to get noticed and hired?
I appreciate your enthusiasm so much! - Thx again, Molly
Thanks for your comments. If you want to ferry, I would start by contacting aircraft brokers and asking them if they need fairy pilots to move aircraft for them.
Thank you so much for this breakdown. I start my flight training soon and this helps out a lot
Glad i was able to help! Have a blast!
Love this content bro . Keep inspiring!
Thanks for the kind words Mina! Will do!
I'm an introvert, but I work well with others. I played football, and was in the Army, so I understand how to work and thrive within the team. I do have to recharge when I'm on my personal time though, lol. Being an introvert does not mean you don't work well with others. It means being around people is draining. There is a difference.
Great channel and resources!
Much appreciated!
so I’m speaking from someone who is just getting my pilot license i’m just starting very soon and i’m currently 26.
these are my concerns:
1.) i want to make more money then my current job as a low voltage tech which is 42 an hour
2.) i want to be able to be home the majority of the time and from what i’ve heard from the typical airline pilot route is that they are gone 2 weeks out of the month. my main goal is to be with my family the majority of the time.
3.) if anyone knows all possible career paths so i can evaluate every option based on my personal requirements i would be extremely grateful. i Love flying with a passion so much so i don’t care what job i’m doing it just has to meet these requirements of family time and 60k+ a year.
Difficult to say. Good luck with your career! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
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According to this tree, where would you classify an Aerobatic Pilot and Air Force Pilot? And what's the difference between Charter flying and Corporate flying?
That would be a branch in the military
Im doing this....for my flightsim carrer, jajaja i like the video!!!
Good luck!!
What ab someone is extroverted and likes the crew environment but doesn’t like teaching ? I could see myself doing charter or cargo but pipeline looks like so much fun
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If you became a cargo pilot, couldn't you easily pivot to being an airline pilot? You're already type rated on and flying the same jets.
Yes. That is typically a good way to think about it
Airlines have a ton of dirty laundry in their operations....everyone looks up to them due to their size of appearance! No you don't need to be a CFI in order to fly for the airlines..... Please only be a CFI if you have the craft within you it is not for everyone! Otherwise, you will put a black eye on the CFI industry...the hours you build are a buy product, there are other ways of building time. Like glider towing, earning a Single engine sea add on, ...At the private pilot yes you can make an income example: UAS, FOI+BGI and/AGI or IGI, insurance agent, Ramp Control Tower, just to mane a few...You can earn CFI-Sport at the 150 hour phase.
Very well said
This is a great video, I’m 43 and used to enjoy being around and talking to people but now I feel that I’m older I’m changing and love a bit of both. I was thinking of going to The CFI path which deals with only one person per day and maybe even become a DPE some day. I just don’t think I can deal with all the drama that happens with the airlines. Do you have a test I can take to determine if I’m
More extrovert or introverted?
There is a test out there but I don’t know one specifically. I would say you know yourself probably better than anybody else and if you feel like it would be difficult then maybe try something different and see how that goes. Either way best of luck!
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Great video however, I disagree, you can jump from one side of the tree to the other. Time is time and if you’ve got a ton of hours as an ag pilot, the regionals will absolutely hire you that’s like saying I’m not hireable flying my own aircraft around because I’m not a CFI. I can absolutely go to the regionals and that is my plan. Many people before me have done that.
There’s definitely exceptions. But for the most part it’s good to stay focused.
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I would love to be able to be a single engine pilot flying banners or surveying, but unfortunately there is no way i can get the money to do so ... I cant get a loan myself and dont have a cosigner available, my family stopped communicating with me years ago due to things beyond my control and not of my doing. I wish i could rewind time and trade in my college degree that has gotten me nowhere for twenty years, for a pilot license, but unfortunately that isnt reality. So to all those that have access to make this dream happen for themselves, go for it, im rooting for you, genuinely. If there was a way for me to be able to afford the cost, id be joining you all in the skies, its been my dream for years ... But not making enough money to even afford a place to live, flying is a pipe dream at this point for me ....
thanks dude i appreciate you. and dont give up, nothing’s impossible
If there’s a will there’s a way. Keep trying and don’t give up! Find a way to make it happen. 😊
But how do you build enough hours to be a skydive pilot without building hours as a CFI? Out of pocket money for hundreds of hrs to meet min requirements?
Difficult to say. Good luck with your career! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
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Honestly man, i still dont really know what i want to do. I know i want to be a pilot(Currently in the process of becoming a flight attendant, i figured already being in an airline, regardless of role would help me to establish a network). But yet idk if i want to be an airline pilot or a Cargo pilot(Like UPS, Fedex etc) it probably would be more logical to just stick to airline pilot since i already am gonna be working for an airline but idk. Honestly i didnt know i wanted to be a pilot till i got on a plane for my Flight attendant Interview.
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Good stuff here!
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Agreed! I appreciate you and hope you get much value from your time on the channel! Thanks for being here. 😎
I dont want to be an airline pilot (not a huge fan of how much time away from home there is, but otherwise its cool) but id be happy to work anywhere else on the tree that has half decent home/work balance. If i want to make serious cash, what path could i go down? Is there any path in cargo, private, regional that is in the higher 6 figure territory? Im trying to find a viable career path and see if its worth it
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I understand that in order to work in most major airlines in the U.S.A, you need a degree. I'm an international student. If for instance I want to work in the U.S.A someday, will the airlines recognize and accept my foreign degree? Given that I've already obtained the necessary licenses and hours.
no U.S. airline requires a degree anymore.
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Would you recommend taking the college route and double majoring so I have a back up? Or going straight to flight school
I did a combination of both which might work out well for you.
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I'm a 354-hour commercial pilot with ASEL, AMEL, instrument, complex, and high performance ratings/endorsements, time building to 500 hours, and I'm definitely in the introverted group. Although even so, I'm currently on the Skywest pilot pathway. I figure I'll do my regionals stint at Skywest and see if I like flying pax, and if so go to Delta, Allegiant, or Avelo. If not, go to Atlas, FedEx, UPS, or Everts. And if I happen to still not like the 121 world, then I'd go corporate/Charter, 135 Cargo, or Aerial Firefighting with the likes of Dauntless Air or Cal Fire. (Where else can you tactically fly a freaking OV-10 Bronco or S-2 Tracker as a civilian!?). In the meantime I'm time building and looking for a Skydiving, banner towing, ferry pilot, Aerial Survey, or pipeline patrol job.
How did you afford the training?
How hard is the schooling to become a airline pilot? I hear there is 80% drop out rate, also, if one becomes an airline pilot then decide you don't want that, would you still have the training to do everything on the tree?
I would say you can only lose if you quit. Don’t let anything stop you and no matter how hard or difficult the education is, persist through it.
@@CommercialPIC jus⁰t hope it will all be worth it-
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Sir I live in Brazil, if I do the flight training here could I be a pilot in the USA?
Difficult to say. Good luck with your career! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
Just receiving my PPL, IFR, and working on CPL, what would you recommend for building 500 hours till I can fly part 135, I would love to save as much money yet keep my training skills. Any advice on the jobs or would renting a plane be effective. Just asking your professional opinion, love your content,thanks
If you have the resources to do it, time building via renting is a good option if you can find someone to split time with, or a place that has really cheap planes. Rocky Mountain Flight School in Colorado for example has Cessna 150/152's at $60 and $75 per hour WET that are tailored to time builders.
Hey this is a little off-topic, kind of but I am currently 18 years old and want to be a pilot but want to do a the Air Force route. Do you have any knowledge regarding Air Force pilots to civilian route?
I want to be an airline pilot but not a cfi
Go for it! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
@@CommercialPIC where can I look for those opportunities?
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A tree isn't a very good metaphore for a pilot career, at least as presented here it's a really forced analogy, square peg in a round hole type of deal. Certainly a solid initial hypothesis that was worth exploring, but it misses the mark when taken this far.
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Hopefully I won’t have to sale t-shirts on RUclips after I get my commercial to make ends meet. So many pilots on RUclips. All the time it takes to edit and upload videos when do you fly?
It’s definitely a challenge. Good luck with your career! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
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good video, just could use 75% less words
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Him your probably in instrument or commercial pilot me I’m in 4th grade
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Bottom line Ag pilots makes the most money on this tree !!! But it is the most dangerous and difficult to get in to and you need some big balls!! Bad day for me $1000 average day $2000 good day $3000 great days $3500 12 hours a day 7 days a week July to October!
It is one of the best Pilot jobs ever! Can’t beat it
What pilot career should i go to if i want to be home every night. If i cant, what can i do that gives me like 10 days of working and the rest of the month off
Can't win em all man. If you get that schedule u ain't gonna be making that pilot money like you'd like
Difficult to say. Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
Great video, but I disagree with the introverted and extroverted viewpoint. You are what you think you are so if you keep telling yourself that you're introverted their fore I should forget being an airline pilot is not a good view of things. If you really want something, you'll work hard to obtain the skills necessary to get there and there is no reason an introverted person couldn't be extroverted and vise verse. Personally, I would say don't look too deep into extrovert vs introvert thing because you'll miss a ton of opportunities because you think you're a certain way. (I'm speaking from experience)
I definitely appreciate your perspective.
Sorry, I think the idea that introverts cant be CFIs, airline, corporate or charter pilots is complete garbage
It’s not a hard andfast rule, it’s a guideline. Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
@@CommercialPIC you can call it a hard and fast rule, a guideline or whatever you like. Its wrong and a stupid thing to say
How much will this journey cost?
Really depends on the school, and which path you choose.
that background music is so annoying and unecessary ,,
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