Every Irish person looked down on unmarried mothers and illegitimate children. Their own family were too ashamed to protect them. The fathers of these babies just washed their hands off it. They are all equally guilty.
Yes that is true. I was one of them illegitimate children born in an unmarried mothers home, and now to add insult to past injury this country proposes to kill their unwanted, not yet born children.
Not just in Ireland and not just by Catholics In those days it was shameful for any single girl to fall pregnant and they were often hidden by their families and forced to give up the baby. Now days they have abortions. When will the killing end.
No indeed, but it takes two to be impregnated the reponsibility is on both but as you say men dodged a lot of it for many varied reasons I am not judging here, it was like that for ceturies and I guess both knew the risks invovled but human nature is...and sex drive is strong etc etc thats why most societies east and west for centuries developed strict rules to protect virgins and women in various ways it did not just happen in Ireland the fact that Ireland was so impoverished made the situation so very much worse.Maybe those Irish women wanted those babies , maybe so did the fathers, Irish love their children and families but maybe they just could not cope, maybe those nuns thought they were doing the right thing looking after all those "unwanted: or unable to be cared for babies," maybe they and the Church were trapped in a over zealous mindset of shame or of having failed and sinned against the rules they set to protect women and they had to blame someone, who knows, its easy from our pill and abortion mindset to judge in our free and easy going age.and be outragesd by what happened in which case we should be outraged all around the world and for centuries to see what human kind has done to babies (women exposing babies to die in Sparta etc etc etc ) child sacrifice Lets be out raged by it all and not have selective rage.Shame on us all.
TheTroy103 I was also born in a mother and baby home.
6 лет назад+20
Charity Comments Your comment is very uncharitable. Who is "promoting promiscuity" and who is "condoning the slaughter of preborn children resulting from their female promiscuity"? Nobody, that's who. Who are you to judge and condemn anybody? You will never meet or know the people you so easily mock , you do not know their individual circumstances, you do not know the reasons they might or might not that or not take the lawful abortion option. Are you saying you prefer to live in a society were State and Church conspire to make female slaves of those you undeserved morally arrogance opinion are "sinners"? Are you saying you have right to force unwilling pregnant females to give unwanted birth to unwanted babies? Are you saying you should then have the right to take that unwanted child away from the birth mother and sell that forced in being baby to the highest bidder for profit? Are you saying you should have the blatantly corrupt brass necked gall to make slaves of those you forced into giving unwanted birth to make more profit? If you are then you must be a truly degenerate barbaric swine. How dare you assume your sick morality gives you the right to dictate to others how they should live and what choices should be lawfully open to them. Their private lives are none of your dammed business. SHAME ON YOU.
Which is probably why most irish people voted for abortion, personally I dint agree with it but then I'm not an abused pregnant girl who is terrified of what is happening to her nor have I been raped thank goodness, in other words I do not think it is my right to tell those girls or women what to do nor is it the right of any church made up of doddering old men either
I have to agree with Patrick. There's something fundamentally wrong with punishing sin by treating someone with no responsibility for the situation (the child) like a sub-human, while letting one of the sinners (the father) go with no consequences what so ever. Not that I condone what happened to the mothers. - But at least it fit into that brutal logic. But that's all the Abrahamic religions for you.
Hilda Jensen we all know children need protection by parents, leave them with strangers and they will be abused,esp strangers who lived and grew up in a twisted insane system,esp by barren hag who have no right to give birth themselves, yea they gonna treat ur baby right, Justice needed here pay back justice otherwise we live in a murderous state who sanctions murder, times up popenesd
We talk about Nazis and the attocities of the SS...but we forget our own history and attrocities as easily. Parents should educate their children not turning a blind eye. young irish are not tought about their country's history...social class issues of the past..expotation of the poor and THIS...christian-class system...if you were a women of the lowest rank and got pregnant you were by yourself...turning to your church and community to be told you were discrace and give up your child to a 'concentration' house run by the church AND state.
We live in a world where our Governments are more like the Nazis than any other institute since 1945. Our Country's history. You would swear there were nothing but institutes on every corner and children were being abused left right and center. Childrens institutions were run in many countries and not by the Catholic Church. Nobody has ever said that the Church murdered any children.People were abused by Nuns and Priests and they should be brought to Justice. But it was 10% of the Clergy that did this. Yet we tar them all with the same brush!. Many children died back then from many diseases and not in Institutions but all over the country. There are worse atrocities happening today than in any other time. Abortion being the biggest Nazi atrocity and continues today and being the worse genocide of the human being. Vaccination s of our children another atrocity that is going on today causing many illnesses, run by the Pharmaceutical industry and sanctioned by Governments. As long as they can find another distraction and bring up another scandal by the Catholic Church (even if it is not actual truth) then they can continue to carry out their own agenda without fear of reprisals. The next generation of children will not have the same thought as ourselves. The new HPV vaccine for our daughters is the next Population control technique by the above. It wil stop many women having babies in years to come. In fact young girls are already having problems wit their ovaries. These companies probably did not expect this to happen so soon but it is happening.
Disgraceful how the woman and children were treated, why aren't the church paying for the DNA tests and them getting a proper burials, how can the church take about being morally right when they did these horrific things...
we kill every time we eat something. prochoice sees fetuses as parasites, but prolife sees born children as parasites. no nation on earth treats children well. it's easy to care about a fetus that will never ask a single thing from anyone, but an actual child will demand much.
prolife doesn't love children more than any one else does. since most abortions are done long before a fetus can perceive anything there is no problem with pain. in the later abortions the fetus is killed before it is removed in pieces which is what your side WANTED when they got the less messy option made illegal. i can guarantee you that very few women are blithe about getting an abortion. most of them think deeply about it before making a decision one way or the other. people have NO obligation to lend their bodies to someone else for the benefit of someone else. i can't make you give me a kidney even if i will die without out and no woman needs to lend her uterus to an unwanted fetus.
who said it was? miscarriage and stillbirth aren't safe and neither are genetic flaws or developmental flaws. nature doesn't care which fetus makes it or not, so why should women? conceptions fail to implant. embryos fail to develop. fetuses die in utero and may or may not miscarry. if a woman has an unwanted pregnancy she can so what nature does and end the pregnancy. seems to me you might want to focus your real concern on the children that are actually here and now and needy, but that would mean YOU might have to take action. can't have that, can we?
There is no evidence of that. Every indication so far suggests that they died from chronic infections, that often spread like wildfire amongst infants in the pre anti biotic age
The spitting image of her. At least he got the chance to be reunited. And , the bastards that did this. Of course they’re all dead and gone now. I must include them poor children in my prayers. That could have been me, or you, And still ti this day, there are some people and that rotten haughty air, condescending air about them, just because of their rank……. They are very hurtful
So terribly sad. Shameful. I would not refer to these women as nuns out of respect for those nuns who do walk in the path of light. These women, rather, did masquerade as nuns but were unholy, abusive individuals.
I just can not understand the pregnant girls families not standing by the girls also the father of the babies families. Shame on them, shame on the Catholic church. Bless those poor little children having to suffer this hypocrisy. Heartbreaking story!
I agree with you, I don't agree with you. Where have they discovered a gene for atheism? Looking for explanations in biology has turned out to be a fool's errand. This story and others like it are simply untrue. Is there something 'in your DNA' that makes you and others believe them? Is there something 'in the DNA' of those who accept conventional wisdom (and its close cousin received opinion) that explains their comical delusion that they are free thinkers?
Remember in 1992 when Sinéad O'Connor tore up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live and got so much hate for it? Sinead was a victim herself who became a fighter. She ripped up the picture of the pope 4 years before the Magdalene laundries closed because she knew the truth about them and the establishment but no one listened. also RIP Sinéad .
i thought the famine days were dark until I heard about this. There was so much abuse of power in this country its hard to comprehend. Dont get me wrong I would never underestimate how scary the famine was but I actually have no words as to how damaging these places must have been to all these prisoners. Anything involving the catholic church seemed to come with a very dark evil side.
It's amazing that I'm only one generation away from this type of child labor and abuse. In America my father and his brother were put in Foster Care by an Orphanage during WW2. His brother was fostered out to a religious family that weren't Catholic. They put him in a cage and forced him to peel potatoes all day. He was beat, fed in the cage, couldn't speak to their children. He was discovered one day when the matron of the orphanage came to do a wellness check.
Of course not...they carried on with their happy lives having legitimate children...meanwhile f**king what ever moved not worrying about consequences...very victorian attitude even as back as in the 60's
@@liesdamnliesandstatsweird1934 some fathers were family members..alot of women who went to those homes were very young some teens..and younger and were raped..nobody ever questioned how these women got pregnant.
We must never forget this happened and obtain justice for these children and their families and justice must be brought to bear on the church and the perpetrators of such cruelty!!
This is so heartbreaking, the gouvernment and the church need to confess and repair what they have done to those poor mothers and babies, give them the information they need to find lost siblings, take some responsability!
Oh yes at last a true comment and they continue to do it in every country they are in just as every single "religion " does the same- every single one of them without fail
May God Bless Kathryn Corless for the rest of her days. Thank you Kathryn for bringing this to light. God had a purpose for your life and I think you found it. I’m sure many will forever be grateful to you. 💕
And so say all of us.she was given no honours( I'm quite sure she doesn't want or expect any, ) but it would be a nice gesture, also she should be compensated for the money she spent purchasing those 800 or so death certs, I'm sure she hasn't got bottomless pockets At least due to her ,the children now have a big think bronze plague with their names dates and ages on it. Pity they haven't a grave yet.
I feel so sorry for the mother’s who thought their babies was adopted, wish they had the chance to make those people who treated the young women with respect, also wished they never did this! They made them work in those places, made them so ill. Heart breaking to know that more then 1000 babies /children lost their lives without anyone knowing
Its enough to punish the mother because they deemed her a sinner. but why punish an innocent child and why wasn't the father deemed a sinner and punished. Such a hard time of hardship and poverty is no excuse for such behaviour by authorities. A bucket of soap and water cost nothing but instead the children were neglected and not respected by putting these innocents in mass graves as if they did not exist.
People need to understand the grip that the Catholic Church had over Ireland back then, it controlled all aspects of daily life. People were terrified to speak out about any of these horrible atrocities..so that’s how they were able to get away with it for so long. Such tragic events 💔
This is so heartbreaking! I feel so bad for all those babies, mothers and adults that made it. I think the Catholic church should purchase all the property back and identify all those children. Give those babies a proper burial and show some respect. They should turn the site to a memorial and pay compensation to the survivors!
The cess pit where the bodies are buried, is just a patch of grass,it wouldn't even neccesitate purchase as I'm quite sure its a crime scene,surely no one is allowed dispose of bodies in an unrecognised place. What is left of those children should be exhumed,the ones identified by DNA returned to their families and reburied, the unidentified ones then buried together in a proper buriel ground with a plaque carrying all their names and age, only fair to them.
We all owe Ms Catherine Koreless an unpayable debt of gratitude. Tuam wasn't the only mass burial ground - look at Bessborough in Cork, it was oldest mother and baby institution in Ireland. with Bessborough though the graves have never been found even though there are hundreds of missing babies and missing death certificates.
This horrific practice was brought to the U.S. by Catholic Nuns. State-sponsored here as well. Many of these homes performed laundry services for the wealthy and these women and children were sent into a lifetime of servitude doing laundry 24/7 for their wealthy clients.
I am Irish and my grandmother who was born in 1920 and is now dead, said that when she was young priests used to go around the roads in Ireland on their bicycles looking for young couples and beat them with sticks. irish people were so frightened of the catholic church
There needs a Nurnburg style tribunal. Crimes against humanity. Bon Secours, Sisters of Mercy silent. Why is the Irish State acting? All Church property in Ireland must be expropriated and some portion for the victims.
964 skeletons were recovered from the Bon secours garden in Tuam. Over a period of 70 years or so.When you have an ancient organisation like the church I think there's a lot to be said for mediating authories to inspect standards in these places. Even in faith schools today left to their own devices abuse can occur.
Givernment Inspectors did call to the bon secour home, on at least one occasion, included in the report was a comment on one little girl " she was emaciated and had a ferocious appetite" that speaks for itself,but the report was never followed up,that man was wasting his time. Remember the convent owned land as well, so with the 30 shillings a week they were allowed for each child thryshould have been adequately if not well fed,in another orphanage a visiting body of people called at Christmas bringing loads of toys ( related by a survivor) but when they had left,the toys were taken away from them and never seen again, which to me seems anact of spite,what did the nuns do with those toys,hardly given to their own families,.
I question why children were dying of malnutrition while they were supposed to be taken care of by the Catholic Church, which is so rich. Unacceptable!
The Institutions had to be closed down before we could join the EEC. If we had not joined the EEC the institutions would still be up and running to day.
Two years after I was born. It's scary thinking what could have happened to me if I was born in Ireland instead of Scotland. My grandmother was an Irish Catholic, and didn't approve of my parents having me and my brother out of wedlock, but she loved her grandchildren very much and never disowned us for being bastards.
There is no excuses what was done was evil regardless of the time it happened i n. Murder is murder, abuse is abuse and slavery is slavery it does not matter who's hands it happens at...they where heartless and money hungry...
In Ireland, but not elsewhere. How about children sent out to places like Australia to work unpaid on farms, to build the orphanages that would house them, again unpaid, then on to erect other buildings for the church unpaid, and all the while being sodomised by bent priests, whose disgusting abuse was covered up by « mother church » gut wrenching filth, which hadn’t even begun to see the light of day, until the 90’s because the victims were silenced by shame. Abuse denied by the church to protect itself, the sods who serve it, and of course, the bottom line, $$$$$$£££££££.
I'll never understand why Catholic churches are still standing to this day. So much pain and sorrow in buildings where you're supposed to trust those powerful people. It's absolutely disgusting.
Love Courtnee All beliefs have a minority of extremists Despite the evil that happened here in Ireland the church is the biggest charity organization in the world today Countless orphanages and centers around the world actually help people and it's not like Ireland
All those responsible should be dragged out in the streets, flogged and either stoned or burned to death for what they did to those poor innocent children and babies >:-( Also the little ones gone, should be given proper rights & respect
Flies in the face of Christ’s teachings about casting the first stone, that God is love, suffer little children etc. Was no right-minded church authority ever interested in the welfare of these children? Did nobody ever check? It’s not too difficult to notice when kids are miserable, sick or underfed. Shameful connivance on the part of both church and state.
Terrible..that story of the man that First at the nuns then adopted only to get hit every day for no reason and forced to work on a farm every day was awful. What an abuse of power.. poor kids.
Cruelty was also rife in boarding schools as well, but not so blatantly, nor was it allowed to become too remarkable because the kids would tell their parents. Letter writing home was done on Friday evening, and the envelopes left unsealed so the nuns could read the letters written. If you said too much you were punished, and the letter had to be rewritten. But the joy of it all was that you could whine about it when you went home at end of term, not that anything much would be done about it.
Kaci Condel some of them werent allowed to get them back. Since the girls got pregnant out of wedlock they say people can’t know. She went back to get her son and they would say he had to be fostered out
these babys need justice and descent burial ,i visited ireland last week for a week and this popped up and i stay in maam ,i visited the sight of these bays ,its so sad ,the church and goverment has blood on its hands and justice needs to been seen to be done ;0(
Funny the men help create the child. Then refuse to take care of them This sickens me to the core. Im not a fan of religion. I wish i could help you all in some way. Even just to hold your hand and show you i care xx .
Better yet turn that play ground into what it really is........ a Cemetery. Bring the poor little murdered bodies up from where they’re hidden, and give them decent funerals, and burials out in the open in plain sight, and place the name of the cemetery and its story on every map, to bring the public to see it, and to know the shame of those responsible.
You should be .... after the Irish government allowed the church to kill and abuse hundreds of children... what do you people allow the government to do in 2018.... kill over 7000 more children by abortion.... the irish people just can’t help yourselves can they
I was born in a mother-baby home in Cork in 1953....adopted 8 weeks short of 3yrs old. The nuns must have been fantastic as I had great life there (my mom said I was very happy child...big smiles..big cavaties cuz I liked sweets. Rather than being "sold for profit" quickly it took one and a half years with constant letter writing (I have letters) and a mother to be who taught special ed and father to be who was a lawyer and two uncles who were priest...yet the process was still long. Thats my experience so lets not condemn the whole idea and put a negative spin on nuns. I wish girls in the US had such a system. A friend of mine on disability had very rough time when she got pregnant....naturally I helped support her cuz deadbeat guys fled...and I got criticized for helping. So thats my one pence comment.
You were probably told half truths..not being bad..but don't believe everything you were told..a sweet tooth really..in the fifties..u really think at three years old you had cavities because the nuns were giving you lovely bags of sweets..more like sugar water instead of milk.
Every Irish person looked down on unmarried mothers and illegitimate children. Their own family were too ashamed to protect them. The fathers of these babies just washed their hands off it. They are all equally guilty.
Yes that is true. I was one of them illegitimate children born in an unmarried mothers home, and now to add insult to past injury this country proposes to kill their unwanted, not yet born children.
Not just in Ireland and not just by Catholics In those days it was shameful for any single girl to fall pregnant and they were often hidden by their families and forced to give up the baby.
Now days they have abortions.
When will the killing end.
No indeed, but it takes two to be impregnated the reponsibility is on both but as you say men dodged a lot of it for many varied reasons I am not judging here, it was like that for ceturies and I guess both knew the risks invovled but human nature is...and sex drive is strong etc etc thats why most societies east and west for centuries developed strict rules to protect virgins and women in various ways it did not just happen in Ireland the fact that Ireland was so impoverished made the situation so very much worse.Maybe those Irish women wanted those babies , maybe so did the fathers, Irish love their children and families but maybe they just could not cope, maybe those nuns thought they were doing the right thing looking after all those "unwanted: or unable to be cared for babies," maybe they and the Church were trapped in a over zealous mindset of shame or of having failed and sinned against the rules they set to protect women and they had to blame someone, who knows, its easy from our pill and abortion mindset to judge in our free and easy going age.and be outragesd by what happened in which case we should be outraged all around the world and for centuries to see what human kind has done to babies (women exposing babies to die in Sparta etc etc etc ) child sacrifice Lets be out raged by it all and not have selective rage.Shame on us all.
TheTroy103 I was also born in a mother and baby home.
Charity Comments
Your comment is very uncharitable.
Who is "promoting promiscuity" and who is "condoning the slaughter of preborn children resulting from their female promiscuity"?
Nobody, that's who.
Who are you to judge and condemn anybody?
You will never meet or know the people you so easily mock , you do not know their individual circumstances, you do not know the reasons they might or might not that or not take the lawful abortion option.
Are you saying you prefer to live in a society were State and Church conspire to make female slaves of those you undeserved morally arrogance opinion are "sinners"?
Are you saying you have right to force unwilling pregnant females to give unwanted birth to unwanted babies?
Are you saying you should then have the right to take that unwanted child away from the birth mother and sell that forced in being baby to the highest bidder for profit?
Are you saying you should have the blatantly corrupt brass necked gall to make slaves of those you forced into giving unwanted birth to make more profit?
If you are then you must be a truly degenerate barbaric swine.
How dare you assume your sick morality gives you the right to dictate to others how they should live and what choices should be lawfully open to them.
Their private lives are none of your dammed business.
SHAME ON YOU.
Abortion was illegal but neglecting and murdering babies and children clearly wasn't.
Which is probably why most irish people voted for abortion, personally I dint agree with it but then I'm not an abused pregnant girl who is terrified of what is happening to her nor have I been raped thank goodness, in other words I do not think it is my right to tell those girls or women what to do nor is it the right of any church made up of doddering old men either
. Who wants your opinion?
Pat Aherne we’re actually in the comment section of RUclips if you didn’t know. Where, you know, people are supposed to comment their thoughts
Louise Australia go figure!!!
Power corrupts
I have to agree with Patrick. There's something fundamentally wrong with punishing sin by treating someone with no responsibility for the situation (the child) like a sub-human, while letting one of the sinners (the father) go with no consequences what so ever.
Not that I condone what happened to the mothers. - But at least it fit into that brutal logic.
But that's all the Abrahamic religions for you.
Hilda Jensen we all know children need protection by parents, leave them with strangers and they will be abused,esp strangers who lived and grew up in a twisted insane system,esp by barren hag who have no right to give birth themselves, yea they gonna treat ur baby right, Justice needed here pay back justice otherwise we live in a murderous state who sanctions murder, times up popenesd
canyoncreekster 👏👏👏
Hilda Jensen Abrahamic religions place responsibility on paternity that is necessary for the child, the mother, family and society.
Hundreds of mothers. Statistically some of them had to be rape victims.
@@Cleromanticon 0
We talk about Nazis and the attocities of the SS...but we forget our own history and attrocities as easily. Parents should educate their children not turning a blind eye. young irish are not tought about their country's history...social class issues of the past..expotation of the poor and THIS...christian-class system...if you were a women of the lowest rank and got pregnant you were by yourself...turning to your church and community to be told you were discrace and give up your child to a 'concentration' house run by the church AND state.
We live in a world where our Governments are more like the Nazis than any other institute since 1945. Our Country's history. You would swear there were nothing but institutes on every corner and children were being abused left right and center. Childrens institutions were run in many countries and not by the Catholic Church. Nobody has ever said that the Church murdered any children.People were abused by Nuns and Priests and they should be brought to Justice. But it was 10% of the Clergy that did this. Yet we tar them all with the same brush!. Many children died back then from many diseases and not in Institutions but all over the country. There are worse atrocities happening today than in any other time. Abortion being the biggest Nazi atrocity and continues today and being the worse genocide of the human being. Vaccination s of our children another atrocity that is going on today causing many illnesses, run by the Pharmaceutical industry and sanctioned by Governments. As long as they can find another distraction and bring up another scandal by the Catholic Church (even if it is not actual truth) then they can continue to carry out their own agenda without fear of reprisals. The next generation of children will not have the same thought as ourselves. The new HPV vaccine for our daughters is the next Population control technique by the above. It wil stop many women having babies in years to come. In fact young girls are already having problems wit their ovaries. These companies probably did not expect this to happen so soon but it is happening.
townsin11 Thank you for sharing this vital information.
Disgraceful how the woman and children were treated, why aren't the church paying for the DNA tests and them getting a proper burials, how can the church take about being morally right when they did these horrific things...
morality from religion is merely lip service.
we kill every time we eat something.
prochoice sees fetuses as parasites, but prolife sees born children as parasites. no nation on earth treats children well. it's easy to care about a fetus that will never ask a single thing from anyone, but an actual child will demand much.
prolife doesn't love children more than any one else does.
since most abortions are done long before a fetus can perceive anything there is no problem with pain. in the later abortions the fetus is killed before it is removed in pieces which is what your side WANTED when they got the less messy option made illegal.
i can guarantee you that very few women are blithe about getting an abortion. most of them think deeply about it before making a decision one way or the other. people have NO obligation to lend their bodies to someone else for the benefit of someone else.
i can't make you give me a kidney even if i will die without out and no woman needs to lend her uterus to an unwanted fetus.
charity. non seqitur. all women, everywhere, should have legal, safe access to contraception and abortion. all women.
who said it was? miscarriage and stillbirth aren't safe and neither are genetic flaws or developmental flaws. nature doesn't care which fetus makes it or not, so why should women? conceptions fail to implant. embryos fail to develop. fetuses die in utero and may or may not miscarry. if a woman has an unwanted pregnancy she can so what nature does and end the pregnancy.
seems to me you might want to focus your real concern on the children that are actually here and now and needy, but that would mean YOU might have to take action. can't have that, can we?
These babies didn't die - they was murderd !
There is no evidence of that. Every indication so far suggests that they died from chronic infections, that often spread like wildfire amongst infants in the pre anti biotic age
Lol.. Are you sure?
Tj Finley So true! 😢 Poor babies! 👼💕
The Church, Garda and those working there turned a blind eye and so colluded in these murders.
@@juliepower4112 Malnutrition? Starved to death.
I was very lucky I had a child out of wedlock. It was 1967, I had supporting family and kept my son, who is 51 today.
My heart breaks for all of you that have been devastated by this. You are always in my prayers.
What made me cry was seeing how much he looks just like his birth-mother and how happy she was to reunited to her son.
The spitting image of her. At least he got the chance to be reunited. And , the bastards that did this. Of course they’re all dead and gone now. I must include them poor children in my prayers. That could have been me, or you, And still ti this day, there are some people and that rotten haughty air, condescending air about them, just because of their rank……. They are very hurtful
So terribly sad. Shameful. I would not refer to these women as nuns out of respect for those nuns who do walk in the path of light. These women, rather, did masquerade as nuns but were unholy, abusive individuals.
DEMONIC
this isn't an anomaly, a one-off with the Catholic Church. Please.
Most nuns are. That's who abused native children in Canada and America
Yes, let's keep the church out of it and call them atheists. Thank you for your application for a job in our public relation department.
So sad makes me cry for all the babies and children that were killed and the children who endured so much torture for being born out of wedlock
Me too but they died from natural causes.
It's not natural causes when the children are starved and neglected, so that they are vulnerable to the diseases
The suffered at the hands of an uncaring dogmatic religion who tried to cover this up along with its other institutional sins.
@@sal50111 The irish Catholic Church had a consistent track record of failing to properly care for people in its care for literally hundreds of years
I just can not understand the pregnant girls families not standing by the girls also the father of the babies families. Shame on them, shame on the Catholic church. Bless those poor little children having to suffer this hypocrisy. Heartbreaking story!
"And you would've made a beautiful mother"... what a sweet boy.
and we wonder why now so many are non believers
People are non-believers because it's in their genetic make-up to be free thinkers, and to question ultimate power.
I agree with you, I don't agree with you. Where have they discovered a gene for atheism? Looking for explanations in biology has turned out to be a fool's errand. This story and others like it are simply untrue. Is there something 'in your DNA' that makes you and others believe them? Is there something 'in the DNA' of those who accept conventional wisdom (and its close cousin received opinion) that explains their comical delusion that they are free thinkers?
Exactly 🌹👍
Terrible this is.those poor children and mothers😢
Only idiots believe in non factual things..
These cunts abused women and children on an epic scale.
Remember in 1992 when Sinéad O'Connor tore up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live and got so much hate for it? Sinead was a victim herself who became a fighter. She ripped up the picture of the pope 4 years before the Magdalene laundries closed because she knew the truth about them and the establishment but no one listened. also RIP Sinéad .
i thought the famine days were dark until I heard about this. There was so much abuse of power in this country its hard to comprehend. Dont get me wrong I would never underestimate how scary the famine was but I actually have no words as to how damaging these places must have been to all these prisoners. Anything involving the catholic church seemed to come with a very dark evil side.
Then they talk of the ask of morals today??????
It's amazing that I'm only one generation away from this type of child labor and abuse. In America my father and his brother were put in Foster Care by an Orphanage during WW2. His brother was fostered out to a religious family that weren't Catholic. They put him in a cage and forced him to peel potatoes all day. He was beat, fed in the cage, couldn't speak to their children. He was discovered one day when the matron of the orphanage came to do a wellness check.
What happen to men who got the women pregnant? Did they become outcasts, too?
Of course not...they carried on with their happy lives having legitimate children...meanwhile f**king what ever moved not worrying about consequences...very victorian attitude even as back as in the 60's
The fathers of these children went back to their wives and families, thus escaping judgement. Smh
@@liesdamnliesandstatsweird1934 After going to confession and saying their ten Hail Marys penance.
@@liesdamnliesandstatsweird1934 some fathers were family members..alot of women who went to those homes were very young some teens..and younger and were raped..nobody ever questioned how these women got pregnant.
@@antoniafaheerty6980 that's heartbreaking
I am from Sean Ross Abbey Orphanage and sold to a family in the U.S.A.
Did you find your biological family?
I am so sorry that happened to you and I hope you found happiness in your life.
research people are doing a wonderful job. God bless these little children. Imagine the awfulness for the little babies. Breaks my heart.
We must never forget this happened and obtain justice for these children and their families and justice must be brought to bear on the church and the perpetrators of such cruelty!!
my grandfather was in one of these homes, he had no direct contact with his maternal family because he was born out of wedlock :(
This is so heartbreaking, the gouvernment and the church need to confess and repair what they have done to those poor mothers and babies, give them the information they need to find lost siblings, take some responsability!
well, the government did. but the church and the pope did, what they always do...
How could any soul force a 4yr old to do farm work? Wow! 😯
Genocides happened for white folk too. Sometimes we forget that there have been many nationalities who have suffered.
especially the Irish .
@@fatimak1382 I'm American and this is true
There is still genocides on white ppl to this day in africa
Neither mother nor child should be punished! Bunch of doddering old fools in robes ruling and ruining peoples' lives!
And the fathers of the baby's just walked away. the women always carry the burden.
Oh yes at last a true comment and they continue to do it in every country they are in just as every single "religion " does the same- every single one of them without fail
May God Bless Kathryn Corless for the rest of her days. Thank you Kathryn for bringing this to light. God had a purpose for your life and I think you found it. I’m sure many will forever be grateful to you. 💕
And so say all of us.she was given no honours( I'm quite sure she doesn't want or expect any, ) but it would be a nice gesture, also she should be compensated for the money she spent purchasing those 800 or so death certs, I'm sure she hasn't got bottomless pockets At least due to her ,the children now have a big think bronze plague with their names dates and ages on it. Pity they haven't a grave yet.
this was going on for years,not just in tuem but all over the country. this is only the tip of the iceberg
in Dublin also, Goldenbridge has been well hidden and the abuses well covered up,
Thank you Catherine! The power of one!
How is it physically possible to be this evil wtf
Why are you so surprised or you don't understand the nature of the humans????
Mother and baby homes and Magdalene laundries stayed open until the 90s! The last laundry closed in 1996
I feel so sorry for the mother’s who thought their babies was adopted, wish they had the chance to make those people who treated the young women with respect, also wished they never did this! They made them work in those places, made them so ill. Heart breaking to know that more then 1000 babies /children lost their lives without anyone knowing
i believe these children will be the warriors that come back when yahuah returns
Heartbreaking, felt so sad for those children who endured so much suffering
give them a proper resting place, its not a hard decition
Its enough to punish the mother because they deemed her a sinner. but why punish an innocent child and why wasn't the father deemed a sinner and punished. Such a hard time of hardship and poverty is no excuse for such behaviour by authorities. A bucket of soap and water cost nothing but instead the children were neglected and not respected by putting these innocents in mass graves as if they did not exist.
People need to understand the grip that the Catholic Church had over Ireland back then, it controlled all aspects of daily life. People were terrified to speak out about any of these horrible atrocities..so that’s how they were able to get away with it for so long. Such tragic events 💔
I did not know anyone who was terrified by the Catholic Church, it is a myth by people who hate Catholics.
Know one should of been punished it's a crime to be pregnant whether your'e married or not, babies are born innocent pure and simple !!!!!!!!
This is so heartbreaking! I feel so bad for all those babies, mothers and adults that made it. I think the Catholic church should purchase all the property back and identify all those children. Give those babies a proper burial and show some respect. They should turn the site to a memorial and pay compensation to the survivors!
Hello, Angelique,
How are you doing today?
The cess pit where the bodies are buried, is just a patch of grass,it wouldn't even neccesitate purchase as I'm quite sure its a crime scene,surely no one is allowed dispose of bodies in an unrecognised place. What is left of those children should be exhumed,the ones identified by DNA returned to their families and reburied, the unidentified ones then buried together in a proper buriel ground with a plaque carrying all their names and age, only fair to them.
We all owe Ms Catherine Koreless an unpayable debt of gratitude. Tuam wasn't the only mass burial ground - look at Bessborough in Cork, it was oldest mother and baby institution in Ireland. with Bessborough though the graves have never been found even though there are hundreds of missing babies and missing death certificates.
And for every woman in one of these homes is a man who cowardly left her in this predicament.
Shame on them!
This horrific practice was brought to the U.S. by Catholic Nuns. State-sponsored here as well. Many of these homes performed laundry services for the wealthy and these women and children were sent into a lifetime of servitude doing laundry 24/7 for their wealthy clients.
I am Irish and my grandmother who was born in 1920 and is now dead, said that when she was young priests used to go around the roads in Ireland on their bicycles looking for young couples and beat them with sticks. irish people were so frightened of the catholic church
That's very true
Can imagine all the children 😞
There needs a Nurnburg style tribunal. Crimes against humanity. Bon Secours, Sisters of Mercy silent. Why is the Irish State acting? All Church property in Ireland must be expropriated and some portion for the victims.
The Irish state eventually
admittedly liability but then they weren't in power then
14.:05 "You would have made a beautiful mother" - just breaks my heart
💔
R.I.P.
Much hatred for the nuns and such Catholic institutions. It's absolutely OK to be born out of wedlock!!! I'm happy, I was born in 1996.
Many Blessings
Appreciate Sharing ❤
964 skeletons were recovered from the Bon secours garden in Tuam. Over a period of 70 years or so.When you have an ancient organisation like the church I think there's a lot to be said for mediating authories to inspect standards in these places. Even in faith schools today left to their own devices abuse can occur.
Givernment Inspectors did call to the bon secour home, on at least one occasion, included in the report was a comment on one little girl " she was emaciated and had a ferocious appetite" that speaks for itself,but the report was never followed up,that man was wasting his time. Remember the convent owned land as well, so with the 30 shillings a week they were allowed for each child thryshould have been adequately if not well fed,in another orphanage a visiting body of people called at Christmas bringing loads of toys ( related by a survivor) but when they had left,the toys were taken away from them and never seen again, which to me seems anact of spite,what did the nuns do with those toys,hardly given to their own families,.
Thank You for this report I never knew this horrific story. The lies the pain. The truth may hurt but lies kill.
I question why children were dying of malnutrition while they were supposed to be taken care of by the Catholic Church, which is so rich. Unacceptable!
The last Magdalene Laundry (Sean McDermott St) closed down in ireland was in 1996.
MegaCrystalWater a year before I was born.
MegaCrystalWater
Only 22 years ago.
So recent.
Disgraceful!
The Institutions had to be closed down before we could join the EEC. If we had not joined the EEC the institutions would still be up and running to day.
Two years after I was born. It's scary thinking what could have happened to me if I was born in Ireland instead of Scotland. My grandmother was an Irish Catholic, and didn't approve of my parents having me and my brother out of wedlock, but she loved her grandchildren very much and never disowned us for being bastards.
@@hayleysmith4845 at least in spite of the disapproval you had her love and care
There is no excuses what was done was evil regardless of the time it happened i n. Murder is murder, abuse is abuse and slavery is slavery it does not matter who's hands it happens at...they where heartless and money hungry...
So so sad...at least the truth is out in the light.
In Ireland, but not elsewhere. How about children sent out to places like Australia to work unpaid on farms, to build the orphanages that would house them, again unpaid, then on to erect other buildings for the church unpaid, and all the while being sodomised by bent priests, whose disgusting abuse was covered up by « mother church » gut wrenching filth, which hadn’t even begun to see the light of day, until the 90’s because the victims were silenced by shame. Abuse denied by the church to protect itself, the sods who serve it, and of course, the bottom line, $$$$$$£££££££.
Ireland was & is a horrific place to live & grow up in. Not the country .....just the people
The Catholic church should be ashamed of what they did to the children and Mothers. The government deserves to be ashamed too.
heartbreaking I hope all these people get justice and find peace in there hearts the ones who wronged will meet there maker one day
catherine Corless is a saint
Time will tell.
I'll never understand why Catholic churches are still standing to this day. So much pain and sorrow in buildings where you're supposed to trust those powerful people. It's absolutely disgusting.
Fear and money gives them the power they have
Love Courtnee
All beliefs have a minority of extremists
Despite the evil that happened here in Ireland the church is the biggest charity organization in the world today
Countless orphanages and centers around the world actually help people and it's not like Ireland
It would be interesting to do a follow up now 5 years later to see if anything has improved or changed. I doubt it though.
As a Irish person I’m ashamed of my country
jeep23862 Just for the record, I am U.S. Catholic and ashamed of mine also.
And we hated sinead o Connor.....
The Catholic Church need to admit this atrocity, and these families and grown children should be compensated!
They need to face this head on✝️✝️✝️
All those responsible should be dragged out in the streets, flogged and either stoned or burned to death for what they did to those poor innocent children and babies >:-(
Also the little ones gone, should be given proper rights & respect
Flies in the face of Christ’s teachings about casting the first stone, that God is love, suffer little children etc. Was no right-minded church authority ever interested in the welfare of these children? Did nobody ever check? It’s not too difficult to notice when kids are miserable, sick or underfed. Shameful connivance on the part of both church and state.
These so called Christians Nuns and priests. Where are they today. Charge's should be brought!! Why so many deaths. Need to be explained.
Men get to play then walk away while women's to pay.
Hello, Angela,
How are you doing today?
Disgusted Irishman living in Dublin,
Sick to my stomach with this banana republic, the church had far too much to say here for far too long.
Now, the Gov...
...wants to take it's place.
@@michelledax4083 another revolution is needed I think
yup the church
DNA test!!!!
Terrible..that story of the man that First at the nuns then adopted only to get hit every day for no reason and forced to work on a farm every day was awful. What an abuse of power.. poor kids.
My deepest apologies to Sinead O’Connor. She tried to tell us.
Yes!!!
RIP Sinead O'Connor x
I just can't understand how people justify the catholic church in spite of all the hideous, inhumane abuses over many hundreds of years.
And just think, this was only one institution.
Cruelty was also rife in boarding schools as well, but not so blatantly, nor was it allowed to become too remarkable because the kids would tell their parents. Letter writing home was done on Friday evening, and the envelopes left unsealed so the nuns could read the letters written. If you said too much you were punished, and the letter had to be rewritten. But the joy of it all was that you could whine about it when you went home at end of term, not that anything much would be done about it.
Many many instituitio s and in England as well their secrecy kept the world out.
I'm truly upset by all of this about what happened in Ireland
Do things like this still happen now?
I’m sure you can rely on it. Are priests still sexually abusing children and covering it up?
There is still one final judgement day.... all will be revealed then and no escaping the wrongs done on earth....
Shame on the parents. Your child that you left at the mercy of strangers. Shame on you.
Kaci Condel some of them werent allowed to get them back. Since the girls got pregnant out of wedlock they say people can’t know. She went back to get her son and they would say he had to be fostered out
Shameful
The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for😢..this is beyond cruel. Its little wonder people have fallen away from the Church.
would love to hear an account of these episodes from the perspective of the clergy
Read: The Irish attack on Christianity by Eugene Jordan. There is also an interview with the author on You Tube
My mother was born there...I never met her 😥😥😥
One of the Catholic church's many atrocities.
these babys need justice and descent burial ,i visited ireland last week for a week and this popped up and i stay in maam ,i visited the sight of these bays ,its so sad ,the church and goverment has blood on its hands and justice needs to been seen to be done ;0(
Tell the Good Catholics, Jesus does not accept deceit. Satan does and they may need to explain the deceit in the afterlife
Hello, Joyce,
How are you doing today?
Breaks my heart
My god unforgivable ❤❤
Hello, Martina,
How are you doing today?
Hope to god all kids at rest peacefully in gods arms in heaven 🙏so sad amen. God love all these kids amen 🙏
Funny the men help create the child. Then refuse to take care of them
This sickens me to the core. Im not a fan of religion. I wish i could help you all in some way. Even just to hold your hand and show you i care xx .
Get them to demolish that play ground . The children need to be heard had laid to rest
A playground of all things to build.
Those poor neglected children 😪
Better yet turn that play ground into what it really is........ a Cemetery. Bring the poor little murdered bodies up from where they’re hidden, and give them decent funerals, and burials out in the open in plain sight, and place the name of the cemetery and its story on every map, to bring the public to see it, and to know the shame of those responsible.
THE LAST PLACE SHUT IN 2016
Is it weird that the name Tuam is said the same as tomb😞
God bless and keep Eire ..
Really sad and horrible what happen to them r.i.p little angels👶🧚♀️🧚
Tuam the shame of the Irish Catholic Church
Irish government have closed the case dating back to 30 years. It's all down to the church of Ireland. FF and FG
I'm discusted to be Irish
You should be .... after the Irish government allowed the church to kill and abuse hundreds of children... what do you people allow the government to do in 2018.... kill over 7000 more children by abortion.... the irish people just can’t help yourselves can they
The last one was closed in 1992. So damn sad.
I was born in a mother-baby home in Cork in 1953....adopted 8 weeks short of 3yrs old.
The nuns must have been fantastic as I had great life there (my mom said I was very happy child...big smiles..big cavaties cuz I liked sweets.
Rather than being "sold for profit" quickly it took one and a half years with constant letter writing (I have letters) and a mother to be who taught special ed and father to be who was a lawyer and two uncles who were priest...yet the process was still long. Thats my experience so lets not condemn the whole idea and put a negative spin on nuns. I wish girls in the US had such a system. A friend of mine on disability had very rough time when she got pregnant....naturally I helped support her cuz deadbeat guys fled...and I got criticized for helping. So thats my one pence comment.
You were probably told half truths..not being bad..but don't believe everything you were told..a sweet tooth really..in the fifties..u really think at three years old you had cavities because the nuns were giving you lovely bags of sweets..more like sugar water instead of milk.
Sad to hear...
The victims should sue the Irish Government and Vatican. Also they should change their Constitution to separate church and state.