Tuam Orphanage: Children Of Shame
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
- Tuam, a name that traumatised the whole of Ireland in the spring of 2014, when an unimaginable story was revealed. A hidden mass grave containing the remains of some 800 children was discovered on the former grounds of a home for single mothers, a hell on earth where children died from ill treatment, and were shamefully buried in secret and forgotten.
Directed by: Saskia Webner, Nicolas Glimois 
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I am someone who was placed with the Convent of the Good Shepherd for 8 months at the age of 15yrs old. I am now 66yrs old but those experiences still live with me.
Never before has one organisation spread so much pain and grief for so many centuries.
With little or no consequences.
The Christian Brothers (Brothers Grim) were responsible for sending young orphans to unknown people in English speaking countries like Australia and Canada. They weren’t alone. The same happened in England, up to & including the 1960’s with the connivance of UK governments.
Never before has there been such a ubiquitous and long lasting organization. When some over here screw up you can't blame the ENTIRE church! That's ludicrous
@@cyirvine6300 You sure can blame the whole damned lot of them when the cover up comes from the very top.
@@cyirvine6300 its always command responsibility in any organization!
The Catholic Church has one hell of a lot to answer for
The WHOLE church?
they started the Spanish Inquisition, they never said a word during the Holocaust, they committed horrible crimes against the Indigenous children of North America during the Residential School era.
@@cyirvine6300 the leadership. No one is above the law.
You should have watched the entire video, the Church of England is also involved.
@@cyirvine6300 The Pope knew this was happening, so yes the whole church.
How many of these young women were attacked and then shamed into this nightmare? Yet again the men getting away with it. Total double standards.
Of course the men are protected, the whole catholic church is run by men. How many of these women were victims of priest rapes.
and is still today including abortion
Men getting away with what? It takes 2 to make a baby.
Yes, it takes two to have a baby, so why only the mothers were punished ?
@@brendastephens5459 Punished? Where were their families? Their mothers? Oh wait they were abandoning/punishing them too, to the state to look after.
The children mattered. They did nothing wrong. ❤
neither did the mothers
every one matters in this world not just children
So very wicked in the name of God.
@@Rayblondie So in whose name are they aborting their babies now?
The majority of these women were taken advantage of and promised love. Guarantee. The mothers did not deserve this either. Not a one of them.
After being a Catholic all my life, I finally left and changed to just being a regular christian for the sake of the family I am creating. Best decision I've ever made
Good for you Sheila and for your family.
Same here, you can always have the relationship without going to a church. But the problem is now lots of our ‘ churches ‘ are being taken over for Mosques.
@@carolgrace6573ah heres the hit squad from the legion of mary
You believe in yourself. You are decision.
I am catholic and early in life read about some horrific things about the religion I was raised.. I want to say that it makes me think the way I saw later religious people in general. This includes muslim and jewish as well they all have a set of individuals that are so evilished that makes you want to puke. It brakes my heart to see that most of the prominent figures of each of this religions have skeletons on their history bringing me to conclude again that there is nothing better to love God thru you re heart an not some freaking human being who claims to be some Gods rep to guide you. Shame on all those leaders that caused pain in the human race, period.
“I’ve never heard of any homes for unmarried fathers.”
that is exactly what I think over and over......singles mothers are punished, but single fathers - or married fathers who abuse young girls never will face that same way then the unmarried mothers do
Because there are none
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Sorry to say but I think it's because they don't deliver any "merchandise".
Nuns are some of the most evil minded and sociopathic women that are on this earth breathing the same air as us. When they leave convents they are like tigers out of a cage, alcoholism, drug abuse and addiction,they become sexually active worse than prostitutes get sexually diseases spread them such as Hepatitis C, gonorreah,syphalis and so on. They destroyed other people in the church and out of the church. This subject has happened to someone in our family and she was an ex nun called a bride of Christ, this person’s life was completely destroyed, yes you can say it takes two to tango, in this case she knew about her sexual disease and didn’t care who she destroyed. I did have a chance to ask her why would you do this to another human being her answer to me was I missed out a lot when I did time in the convent, it’s my life and I will do what pleases me. I told anyone who sleeps with the devil will burn in hell. I cannot write the words down to what I said to her. Every time I see articles like this What thousands of years created this church to become. The innocent and persons who cannot have a voice in this church never had a leg to stand on. The devil lives off the hog here always has.
Thank-you to Catherine Corless for your good work. Deep condolences to everyone who was bereaved of their child or sibling, or deprived of their mother.
Thank you ❤
And the butterbox BABIES❤
This reads like a HOROR SORRY ☹️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💔
Effing bs_____strds ❤
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Shame, shame shame. No one would help these women. Not their family, not their neighbors, not the government. The only place available to them was this evil church. Victoms of an ignorant, brutal , merciless people. The shame is not on the mothers or children it is on Ireland and the church both of whom get off scot free
Only on earth did they get off scot free, after they die God deals with them, eternally.
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Thank goodness we now accept out of wedlock babies or they can get an abortion.
Very nice Daniel
Fully agree.
I lived in a convent from age 8 - 11 yrs. Some of the nuns were violent. I remember seeing a boy in the freezing cold with short trousers being thrashed on the thighs with a cane just out of the blue. Another one we had to watch being leathered by a heavy strap on his back for running away. They taught us about Mary, the saints, the rosary, communion but hardly nothing about Christ and certainly no scripture. I was given a scapula and was told if I wore it all my life I would go to heaven. I didn't know Jesus then. It was just religion religion relgion and superstition. Fortunately I came to Christ at aged 27 yrs and I was saved from the fear of Catholicism. Jesus is wonderful and has healed me from my childhood. I thank God for my life now and know that I belong to Him.
Nuns 🤮🤮🤮
Praise God for you!❤
I am so sorry. Christ heals our ills and I am glad you found the real Savior. God Bless you. "Suffer the little children to come unto me."
Just 3 years? Well I went to Catholic school too, for 10 years and never saw any of what you say you did. Got the best education ever. I *don't* believe you never learned about Jesus. That was the first thing I learned in grade 1. Did you not learn any cathechism either? We were also taught self discipline and to read and write in 2 languages. You needed 60% to pass. Then went to public school to grade 13 where you only needed 50% to pass. And they sure as hell never even prayed or talked about Jesus there.
Same ill treatment in not religious private or public schools those days.Even your parents and your family were really harsh!
The inversion of the teachings of the church.. Took our ancestral knowledge, our way of living and oppressed and brutalised us..Little kindness from them.. Cruel judgement from cruel people hiding behind a habit 🙏
My Daughter 21 weeks gave birth to Twin Boys, they were still born. Even though they were in heaven, I had them baptized.
They were given names Aiden and Braiden, had a service. God Bless! Now 12 years later she has 2 Daughters 8 and 3yr.old She is high risk! I Thank God every day for them!❤
@susanlivingston743. And every day she remembers those sweet sons and how old they would be now and what they might be like.❤️😢
I don't understand what this comment has to do with how women were raped and blamed for it, and imprisoned to "pay" for their "crime." Children were taken and sold to America by the church, resulting in psychological trauma. I feel for your daughter but I don't understand what it has to do with this. Enlighten me.
Way to make it about you, Livingston. This is a story about the hideous treatment of girls who were raped and the treatment of their poor children. Do try to stay on track.
She's saying with baptism, they are in heaven , absolved of sin, well it's another catholic guilt thing....
Imagine taking the time to write a report stating that a child in your orphanage was both emaciated AND had a voracious appetite instead of just feeding the child more! Neglect. Cruel neglect.
And the order was being PAID by the Irish nation! The funds were not being taken from "holy, mother church" but the latter shamelessly took the money to its own nefarious uses: new vestments, church buildings, priests' pensions, contributions to Peter's Pence?
The Catholic Church has NO moral authority any longer and I left it over 36 years ago.
I cant imagine if my baby was torn from my arms. My baby was born out of wedlock. So many beautiful babies abused and hurt for existing.
Yes.😞😢
2:33 2:34
I also had a child out of wedlock at the age of 18 then had another at 20 to the same father no way would I give them up for adoption.
These poor girls were robbed of there babies 👶 😢😢😢
Why blame others though take responsibility for your actions and the consequences it's not everyone else's fault
@@cathycupcake6849 Who said otherwise?
Sad the men that got those poor girls pregnant were never punished
Males seduce, have their way and then disappear like mice when a light comes on, leaving evidence of the damage they do.
Actually, the people really responsible were those who created a society where people were demonised. It's no different really than the people who looked the other way when jews were demonised in Hitler's Germany and in many countries besides. Absolutely true that fathers should be there for the upbringing of children they've created - that's morally right - but none of these people were criminals. They were just human. It's the cruel system, promoted by religious " fascists " and swallowed up by a brainwashed society that are to blame for how these mothers were treated and the evil EVIL treatment meted out to children who were as innocent as any child is. To think that a government of a country which had fought for its independence not that long before ( and loved to sing songs of how they fought against cruelty ) should uphold this evil and a church - supposedly there to lead people to God - would set the stage for what was at the back of it is just ghastly. I wonder what Jesus would say about it all. I hope that the truth these surviving people are asking for does come to light in their lifetimes. God bless all those affected and forgive all those responsible.
Patriarchy puts all responsibility on women pretty much. The old 'virgin/whore' syndrome, still alive in many parts of the world.
I would have thought the idea should be *not punishing* 🤔
Oh don't believe it ! They indeed are being punished and in a far far worse place and way we can't even imagine ! Forever !
Nous sommes Belges, mes parents sont nés en 1914 et 1916 et moi en 1947. Je n'ai jamais entendu cette expression "enfant de la honte" on disait "enfant de l'amour". Habitant la campagne, nous connaissions ces enfants qui étaient automatiquement adopté par l'homme qui épousait la mère et sans problèmes, il y avait aussi des enfants qui n'étaient pas du mari et cela ne choquait non plus personne, on disait "un enfant est à celui qui l'élève". Les religions ont toujours créé des problèmes là où il n'y en avait pas.
تعال للعراق وشاهد المأسي الحقيقية والظلم والرعب والقتل
@@Al-mj2fw wszystkie religie niosą okrucieństwo, wyzysk i krzywdę
Very true@@dorotaxxx9442
The Tuam claims are largely false seeking to attack the Catholic Church. The mass grave is a false claim -- just like the false claims relating to mass graves in Canada at residential schools. The sisters cared for the young women and children who were shunned by their families and in too many cases the young women were victims of incest or other abuse. A historian researched the archival records relating to this facility and the inspectors who conducted unannounced inspections found the facilities well run, clean and with the young women well cared for and in good spirits. Watch the interview by Gemma O'Doherty (an award winning Irish investigative journalist) of this historian who sets the record straight.
Merci à tous pour ce reportage,ne jamais oublier tous ces enfants qui sont enterrés et à qui ont doit une sépulture .❤
When pregnant love and support are needed. These poor women and their children. God bless them.
The treatment of women breaks my heart. How many of these women have these children with no consent of their own, if you know what I mean. And yet the men continue on with their favored stature of honorable men and the women shamed. It’s disgraceful. And these nuns should be named even if they are no longer alive.
Show us the bones you liers
And the males that got them pregnant???? Poor females
It's so freaking backwards. It's still happening.
@@lasantisima6446 absolutely. Men get away with it because females are the one's that get pregnant. So unfair
They consented to open their legs out of passion ? It was not all on the mans side .
Don't be an absurd feminist! some women had an affair that resulted in them becoming pregnant, no one should be punished, neither man nor woman, especially those innocent children.
And let's not forget one thing! who are those people who created those crimes, those pains??? aren't all the women nuns from that institution?
I, as a man, cannot conceive those crimes, how could some beings who can be mothers conceive them then?
Too bad! May God be with us all and protect us from such things in the future
The men were not sent to work houses.the men should be punished
The Catholic Church has always had problems concerning abuse.
What's the bet the reason they don't want to excavate is because a lot more than 795 children are buried there?
The church...
I totally agree with you I think religion as a whole is horrific.
Oh I feel naieve. That never occurred to me. Sadly, probably.
@@elizabethmcgrath6198 liar
guaranteed, and the fact that it will be discovered how they died! That is what they are afraid of.
there is a tons of documentaries about this irish children. very sad..
It's so 💔 to learn how dysfunctional, harmful, contradicting, very judgmental, cruel, cold, misleading of the real truth of the True Gospel. I am so grateful that I left the Catholic Church. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
Love in the universe to all the babies from Tuam 💓💕
I'm shocked !
I've always identified with the Irish people, even if I'm from Eastern Europe, but the silence and indifference of the authorities in Ireland really pissed me off!!! how, how to treat such atrocities with such indifference??? hundreds of children can say killed, and by whom??? by the church! that organization that preaches mercy, love and help to the poor. I only hope that the Divinity will punish them if the civil authorities look at these crimes with such indifference.
Shame Ireland, shame!
Agreed! And what about the nuns who lied, sinned, who did these horrible crimes in secret; essentially murdered these babies/children .. they are no doubt gone now, passed away, and will never take accountability or be held responsible for what they did to these beautiful little children. All of these babies are safe now in the arms of Jesus, but I shutter to think where the nuns have gone. Maybe some have repented of their sins, asked the Lord for forgiveness .. only God knows, and He is our Judge. My heart goes out to all the Moms who lost their precious babies. Shame on the authorities in Ireland who did nothing to bring justice for all the little ones gone too soon at the hand of these monsters who used the Name of God to do their disgusting, evil deeds. 🙏💜
@@purpleandred7 😪😪😪😪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nuns are just people who are either good or bad, liars, cheats, paedos or decent who hide behind Bad "Habits" 😈@@purpleandred7 a nun hit on me when I had my son at a nasty catholic school, where the priest was PISSED on whiskey ( bad conscience maybe) by 8.30 am Catholicism is another ism like alcoholism, JUST BAD ALL ROUND😈
Trouble is, they have this indifferent attitude unwilling to do anything else but leave well alone and hope all forget, those nuns and authorities were ,are ,have been throughout Time, worshipped Lucifer nameing Lucifer as father of jesus, even in vaticn, those babies would not be missed, were sacrificed, exhumation of the site, would prove this and if that church helped the poor, why then is vatican dripping in gold holding wealth beyond measure while pitched outside vatican, in tents starving, while little boys and girls are rapped by their priests, antichristos, blasphemers, idolatrous,fornicators, satanic pope already Admitted it, still nothing done, because the authortes are still SATANISTS , behind closed doors, in the dark, secret hidden society,
Don't blame the Irish people. Blame the hypocrisy of the Catholic church.
Saw this before...great (while difficult to watch) documentary.
The Magdalene Sisters (2002), d’emblée, dès les premières images, je repense à ce film que j’étais allée voir à sa sortie. Je me revois…je suis sortie du cinéma bouleversée…je ne m’attendais pas à voir ces horreurs. Ce film a eu le Lion d’Or à Venise ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️Un prix, ô combien, mérité.🥀🇫🇷 21.4.2024
The Tuam claims are largely false seeking to attack the Catholic Church. The mass grave is a false claim -- just like the false claims relating to mass graves in Canada at residential schools. The sisters cared for the young women and children who were shunned by their families and in too many cases the young women were victims of incest or other abuse. A historian researched the archival records relating to this facility and the inspectors who conducted unannounced inspections found the facilities well run, clean and with the young women well cared for and in good spirits. Watch the interview by Gemma O'Doherty (an award winning Irish investigative journalist) of this historian who sets the record straight.
Heartbreaking. Huge credit and thanks to those who have worked so hard to bring this to light. Above all else I would say Dev bears a great deal of blame for this situation arising. The Church was given too great a role in the new state formed a century ago. Dev spent his time fulminating against the Treaty and obsessing on rubbish like the Oath. A great pity he did not spend more time enquiring into how the poorest and most vulnerable of his people were living.
Wat een schorem, wat een monsters. Mijn kind kwam door een verkrachting. Hij moest ook naar een kindertehuis. Maar erg goed daar Elke dag kwam ik daar en door mijn wisseldiensten op verschillende tijden. Gelukkig maar twee jaar en daarna een topper als vader gekregen en een heerlijke liefdevolle man nu 🥰❤️🥰
The subtitles are absolutely horrible... 💯 why even have them if they're not done correctly?
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You tubes language translation is diabolical
RUclips was taken over by India go figure 😂😂😂
very true, but they are optional. disable them by clicking on the icon in the lower right corner of the screen.
They are very odd. More like a paraphrase. It’s doing weird things to my brain. I thought they were subtitles already embedded in the video, but they seem to be close captioned. Thankfully I turned them off.
One thing that amazes me,all the women who went through that hell,and they seem so strong. I suppose you'd have to be tough to make it out alive.
Every Baby is created by GOD..and no child should be made to feel shame because of their existence.
I believe every child is created through fertilization by sperm of ovum (with or without medical assistance) and no child should be made to feel shame because of their existence.
None of us asked to be created or born.
Ya know first and foremost, no woman should be treated like trash. This is why abortion should be legal.
Every baby is created by an egg and sperm making contact.
@@ixchelsmith3025 Of course no woman should be treated like trash..but neither should and unborn baby. AGAIN GOD creates the baby ...body and soul. That body and soul is created for. a purpose and destiny..that only GOD knows. GOD created man and woman..it is sheer audacity to think that man and woman CREATES a human being...without the POWER of GOD. Think carefully..because those that condone and have abortions..will face GOD one day...and answer to HIM.
@@ixchelsmith3025 GOD creates life..just as HE has done for all of us. These children who are aborted..had a purpose in this world that GOD created. THEM for. Of course no woman should be treated like trash..just as no conceived baby should be treated like trash. Cuts both ways.
Oh God again, and the people who think
They know exactly what "he" wants us to
Do. Maybe "God" wanted "his" "loving"
Servants the nuns, the "brides" of "Christ" to take care of the pregnant women, help them give birth, help THEM
Become mothers instead of ripping their babies out, taking them away and then selling them to "good catholic families " Do you really think your "God"
Is that cruel? There's not two sides to
A baby mill.
My Mam used to wake up screaming from the nuns when she was a child. They cut off her hair aswell. Not nice.
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What made these nuns so horrible Bitter and twisted, Maybe they were abused as children or made become nuns which wasn't unusual years ago, some parents thought it was great to have a nun or a priest in the family,
The memorial plaque is beautiful. 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Thank goodness I escaped from Bishop Moors School near Liverpool at aged 14 and I escaped to live 'wild' on the streets for nearly a year before escaping to the sea! At fourteen I became an atheist and I've never looked back!
Please don't blame God. The good Lord loves you unconditionally, and the hurt caused to all children and young women, is the same hurt suffered by God in heaven. Those who caused all this pain have been dealt with by God.
Beverly, we're so sorry for what you suffered. Your/our Saviour Yeshua took on our Sin's thus you not needing to be a Atheist. There is much worth in believing in Yeshua our Saviour. No one is perfect & someday I pray you shall heed the Holy Spirit's nudging & begin your journey back to HIS loving embrace via the Gospel. Hang in there. Peace be with us all 🙏. Isa
Seriously guys... this poor dude is talking about his experience and suffering at the hands of followers of your god/prophet, yet you still have the audacity to try to make it about your god and trying to shill for him with some emotional drivel like that's what matters right now... That's awfully inappropriate and tone deaf behavior to be honest. I'll never understand why some religious people can be so shameless at times...
It's a shame yeshua didn't save the children from the evil Catholic church when they were pure, blameless, innocent babies. @FemiNelson-sb1em
@@bernadettekavanagh9984 Beverly has the right to feel the way she does, you have no control in who believes in you're so called God.🤔🙄🙄🙄
It's been years since this has come to light.What has been done about it
Absolutely nothing, the files were probably thrown into a filing cabinet or burnt , The priests were dirty ole men and the nuns were vicious bullies and murders, I personally think they should be named and shamed
These “Laundries” were all over Ireland, so there must be thousands of babies buried like this. Why is only Tuam talked about?
I don't think this place was a magdeline laundry
The Tuam story speaks volumes for all the institutions.
This is just an example. If they reported on every site where this occurred, video would have been thousands of hours long!
In the 70's, my girlfriend attended a Catholic Convent for unwed teens & all of these girls were drnied Lamaz. That was horrible 😢. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
that's because the poor girls had to suffer for their sins!, barbaric!!!!
Absolutely horrible 😢
It is terrible to tear young babies from their mothers arms I think you lost your sole through it, the longing will be like
cancer they could have look after the mother as well as the baby and raise them together, but there are too many other
people who like to make rules and ruin other peoples lives through it.
Frustrated women who have turned bitter and took it out on these poor women and babes,no such thing as born in sin ,😢ridiculous,
Très intéressant mais si triste documentaire de France Télévisions.
Merci à Catherine Corless pour son opiniâtreté, ce qu'elle fait est admirable.
Dieu bénisse tous ces enfants et leurs Mamans.
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And the Church even flew to other countries to “rescue” pregnant girls and women and bring them back to Ireland for punishment! How disgusting and completely uncalled for.
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And the one in this documentary was 18. I don’t know what the year of majority was in the early 1970s, so maybe legally she was underage.
Doesn’t change things though.
Society always punishes the woman.. one way or another.
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And without us nobody would exist 😡
@@PSeitter Yeah.
True but punishes poor men too. Just think of war. Really society punishes the poor.
@@Candlewick14 Yes.😞😞😞
Que pena siento por esos niños y madres.😢😢❤
What a horror and tragedy. All for the sake of so called morality. The taking and selling of children and the money made by taking one yourself. What shame, what grief these little ones endured. If surviving an infancy without their mothers milk and the special one on one care she'd have given them. Only to face years in an institutional setting of unloving care and brutality by the tired nuns. What calling is this? What scripture was referenced? To justify the stealing of a child born out of wedlock or the shaming of them? Was Jesus taken from Mary or shamed for her unmarried pregnancy? What was put away back then that Joseph considered, then was faced with an Angel himself? And what of these little ones of His, our Father in Heaven, are not these little ones His as well?
Why isn’t the church made to pay for this.
The best way it's paying is by losing following, tbh. There's nothing that can be done to amend the damage done to the mothers and children who went through this.
My mother worked in them magdaline laundries I was adopted and met her when I was in my 20ts. Her life was awfull in care of the nuns
I believe the Nuns were miserable, unhappy, frustrated women.
Yes indeed. The Catholic Church in Ireland has a very dark history. How could ‘religious’ people be so cruel and mean to both
the mothers & children; mothers who may have been abused or ignorant about the facts of life and children who were innocent
of any wrongdoing. The Church was all powerful and there was a great deal of fear, that was part of it. Let’s face it many, many
of the perpetrators were not Christian in their demeanour and behaviour. Nothing ‘Christ like’ about these creatures. I hope
Ireland learns from this and puts this Catholic Church in its place and faces up loud & clear to wrongdoing.
No child, ever, is "illegitimate." But, I think that many corrupt people who abused women, their children, and deprived them of marriage and family -- the abusers -- are illegitimate.
🤔🤔🤔 Very possible.😔
There is a Jack Taylor episode that deals with this subject in the show his mother was in one of these places. I don't remember if his mom was pregnant or there for some other reason? The episode is good worth watching!
It seems the women's families are very much to blame. I would assume the nuns had no support from anyone. Very sad story. kd
Yes why not defend their pregnant daughters.
Actually they had state support but it wasn't used properly. This in fact makes it even worse because they knew how bad the conditions were. People worried so much about what the neighbours would think etc. Things are very different nowadays and not before time. Also a lot of these "homes" made money on the backs of the poor unfortunate people who lived in them
@donalddelano3948, the families were bound by the Roman Catholic Church, Papal law, doctrines and fear. If you need further truth, do your own research. Ireland was another planet, in a galaxy of disturbed belief in a god of retribution. Yes I'm Irish and a recovering Catholic.
@@iamahorsenut7541because in many societies, even today, an unwed female brings shame to the families. A baby is a blessing to me, and they are the innocent that suffer for choices others make on their behalf, and behind almost every shame these people feel, there's religious fanatics beliefs, that they are offending God. This is so wrong. The Catholic church condemns the most, but they have and still have committed the worse sins.
How can a baby be a sin for being born? It has no control and no choice in the matter.
Where are the mothers buried?
HOW SAD! this really touched my heart, not only for the children but all the girls..... 😭
Churches are about worship, mine is a personal relationship in which I try to follow him.
Blessings to all.
Sad story but whoever did the subtitles for this was not true to the words of the speakers
google translate .....terrible AI😢
you can disable them...
I was baptized within hours of my birth by my father. He wanted to take no chances even though infant mortality in the US circa 1979 was negligible.
It wqs done officially later as is the custom.
I am not baptised and thank my parents so much for that. I want no connection whatsoever the cancerous evil that is religion.
Acts 2 verse 38... repent and be baptized
Life is so damn hard. I just do not understand why society creates these extra hoops and standards that are not necessary, but which just burden and potentially destroy lives already struggling.
There will always be those who choose the abuse of power, in place of compassion and God's love, in a number of cases many of the nuns and priests were put there as part of the idea that every family had to give over either a son or daughter to the so-called church, in order to find favour with the authorities of the 'Church ', whether those children wanted to or not. Many were forced or yet again, there's shame on the family, causing such bitterness all round.
Religion is all about power, misogyny, sex, paedophilia and money. Cults!
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@@bernadettekavanagh9984This is very important information you gave. Thank you.
This is what happens when man thinks he knows what God wants and thinks it brings nothing but sorrow and pain to the living.
My father always said, no child of mine will be baptized Catholic. God doesn’t want 10 percent of a fathers income when he is struggling to feed his children. 🤷♀️
That's the mormon way.
That letter from The Communications Clinic chair of the Sisters of Bon Secours organization really tells of the current attitude of that organization. What a snarky gas-lit response.
I am in my 60s. I just lost my mama in January. She knew me my whole life, and I had known her my whole life-up to that sad day. I cannot imagine not knowing my mama for all that time.
This is so sad. The consequences of mother-child separation are far reaching.
Keep fighting.
I am pretty sure there are a lot of places like this on the surface of the planet unfortunately, this is scarie really and so shameful
* scary
@@cherylween4973 I a not an English speaker, I do my best
Strah me i komentarisati, zašta su ljudi sposobni ,koliko zločina je činjeno i čini sse u ime BOGA. Koliko su im isprani mozgovi i dalje im ispiraju . BOG je stvorio ŽIVOT, NE VERE 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sadly this is not the only institution that committed such crimes. Convents of Nuns, sadly did the exact same to their unwanted bebe's 😢. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
I remember this news story, I remeber being in ireland at the time, I even remember the room I was in. The story still hurts to this day. It hurts to think that the country I love so much and take so much pride in being a citizen of, even the county I lived in could do such a thing and be to scared, to fearful of their own cowadice to fess up to it.
Thank you ❣️👍
No matter one's beliefs, children are totally innocent no matter what.
You can't be Christ Like & condemn a child, the two don't mix.
This is akin to Georgia Tann's cruelties, in TN, of which she was cruel...."Stolen Babies", around mid last century.
My cousin was one of those stolen babies......my late abused brother & I were in the Catholic run orphanage in Ft Wayne, IN.
Too many 'foster care' really don't care 💔.....
Oh you'd be surprised about what some "Christians" say about children, even newborns!!🤮🤮🤮🤬 Sorry for what you went through. May you heal and find peace and love.🙏❤️
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My racist religious fanatical relatives, some pedophiles like my father, were even worse.
I'm writing about it online now.
How can 800 babies just disappear it’s disgraceful.
Over 36 years, 22 per year.
@@annetoronto5474 all lies
God has them all. They are no longer lost.
@@declancooney1029Of course.....,....
Really Sad.
Thanks Mr. Musk from Brazil
Brazil have opened an investigation into Musk.
Thank you President Lula.
Such a lunatic!
Not just in Ireland, but on every continent. Reparations?
🤡I'm OwEd ReEEEpArATioNs...No one owes you shite. We learn from the mistakes of the past and move on.
Go beg somewhere else
When do we ever learn from the past? Money is the only think big biz, big gov, and big institutions learn anything from.
@@eddieram435we haven’t learned shit lol.
What a dumb comment, will that change anything?Water under the bridge.whats done is over.
I want uo know how the catholic church behaved throughout europe. In Scotland its the same story as Irelabd. But i fountbthibonly happened in Irelan and Scotland?
they did same through out the world
Catolic church did this all over the vourld
bravo à tous ces gens qui ont permis de découvrir toutes ces horreurs !
que tous ces enfants reposent en PAIX
En cielo y tierra no hay nada oculto
Irish woman made to suffer. Not the men? Seems to me ,Ireland has a cruel culture. The church controlled the Irish. The nuns were cruel. The Irish love their cruelty.
it is not the Irish - it is the Catholic Church.
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 happy Mother's Day
My faith is strong not blind ❤
This happened in every country where Catholics ran schools. In Canada the rcs operated residential schools. It has been reported that 8000 kids have died in these schools and that old fossil in rome refuses to apologize for thecrimes they have commited.
Only Catholic schools?
God is dealing with them.
In belgium there was Zelem Where after the closure by the police the dough up over 150 childrens body's The orphanage was ruled by Nuns .
Again...😞😔🙏❤️
Yes, the Church sold 30,000 Flemish babies. They 'apologized'. How kind of them.
Reminds me of the sadistic nuns I dealt with in Catholic school as a child. They wielded their rulers with great anger and for the least problem.
The Mother & Baby Home in Tuam isn't the only convent that hides mass graves.... The Irish government PAID the convents for "looking after" the poor female prisoners & their children. When a "good Roman Catholic couple" were found, usually in America & boy they were charged heavy amounts for a child! The laundry of "The Good Shepherd, Waterside, Derry, was a horrible prison. My Uncle saw a woman, obviously near the time of her delivery, along with others on their knees, cutting the huge lawns with....small scissors. The supervising nuns beat them with "Cats O Nine Tails" (whips with many leather straps which were embedded with iron studs) if they didn't think they were working hard enough.... He got in immediately, knocked on the door & was refused entrance to speak to the mother superior I refuse to capitalise her so-called title). He told her that, if she didn't stop this cruelty immediately, he'd speak to reporters in "The Derry Journal" about it! That changed her tune... I also was boarded in a Dominican convent, at the top of Lime ST., Liverpool (England) for a month, while I attended the hospital there. I befriended 2 nuns. One had dementia & the other told me she was miserable there but couldn't get out. The latter was sent, permanently to the "Mother House" for the Dominican order, as she also wanted to be allowed to read the bible. The latter, older nun & I strolled around the ground at sunset every night together. One day she stopped in a corner of the vast gardens which I always steered her away from as being there troubled her so much. In a brief instance of lucidity, she whispered to me that "This is where we buried the babies &, God help them, they were innocents...". So the Roman Catholis church not only covers for paedophiles but also the victims of cruelty.
Irish Nuns came to Jamaica. Lots. The ran many Schools all ages. All nuns are now dead. But some were alive 10 years ago. Catholic schools. I wonder if there are any documentation?? Historical data. Very Interesting. ❤❤❤
This documentary doesn’t address key questions - how many girls were there giving birth? I imagine many were in poor health to begin with and 800 over 40 years is 800 chikdren who died over 480 months or under 2 a month - I don’t know how uncommon that would be esp if there were large numbers of poor malnourished women giving birth.
And how many were young, powerless, poor...not having created a situation but still being punished for it.
The difference is they were DELIBERATELY malnourished and refused medical treatment.
If it was uncommon and the statistics were the same as or better than the average it would hardly be a scandal.
How were the girls and women and children malnourished if they were in the care of the church? Why were the babies and childrens bodies buried without the blessing and proper funeral rights of the church, improper records? Why were bodies found dumped in the old septic tanks? Does this sound at all explicable to you? Do not make excuses or try to gloss over what happened...there or anywhere else in the world, in history and today, to girls, women, babies and children when they get pregnant and are abandoned and their babies and children punished and abused.
The best documentary.
Bravo à John que son coeur a pris la lumière de la vérité .
The irony of it too that Mary gave birth to Jesus out of wedlock!! Astonishes me that they could not see that link. They should have been celebrating these children.
Jesus was not born out of wedlock. The Bible tells us that when Mary told him what had happened, Joseph quietly married her, long before the birth. The Bible also tells us that Mary and Joseph went on to have other children, half brothers and sisters to Jesus.
@@verenamaharajah6082Mary got pregnant out of wedlock.
Was it Joseph or someone else we dont know.
Wake up from believing in fairy tales and unicorns.
It was through the Holy Spirit that Mary came to be Jesus's mother, AND she remained a Virgin throughout her life on earth. That is why She is referred to as The Blessed Virgin Mary, and why we revere Her.
@@bernadettekavanagh9984So, not with her husband.
You need Jesus
I was born in a mother and baby home, taken to American at the age of 3 months. . .
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I hope you had a happy childhood and were able to find your mother again.
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Oh my God . 😢 so shocking . incomprehensible so incomprehensible and painful that I can't express it 😢👃 so heartless. 🤬 with God's blessing to all children. greetings from Belgium
Ο😮😮😮 Ο Ιησούς Χριστός μας αναφέρει μάθετε την αλήθεια και η αλήθεια μας θα μας ελευθερώσει ❤
Every sect had these stories.
No
If so, could you provide the reports, articles, or documentaries?
Why was no reference made to mortality rates for babies in general at the time in Ireland? Also, these were state sanctioned homes but it is very convenient to lay all blame on the Catholic Church and pretend that the state is not also to blame.
Didn't they blame the state too?
You didn’t watch carefully enough. It is stated in the video that the death rate was 5-6 times higher in comparison than outside the institution. And one possible reason is also given: The enforced lack of breast feeding making the children much more vulnerable for infectious gastroenteritis.
My mom , who I don't know as a person. The last time I saw her she said she was sick but better now. She lived by Catholic rule. She never aborted, well as far as I know. She would get pregnant but left a child at the hospital. Lost my brother to her mother for neglect, I came even though she tried to kill her children. I had a twin that died but I came early with her and spent time in the hospital until I was healthy enough to leave. A few months . Born early with pneumonia. I don't tell this for sadness just another story . My mom tried to off me after I came home. She started a fire and left . But I can not tell you how many times in my early childhood people would just show up for no reason and rescue me. She did not marry my father so the church would not baptise me but my parents... one or both found a priest that did. I tell this because of what a stronghold the church had on my drunken parents. And its always been a weird mix of thinking. I think the call it cognitive dissonance. I was with my mon until I was 7 often left alone, hungry and abuse of sorts. But I went tp parochial school and when the system got me I could not go to any family but a Catholic family. This meant an aunt who wanted me to live with her was not able to take me in , I ended up in abusive foster homes and was not welcome there . I was extra income. The church played a big role and the shame was my ground..shame and quilt. While I have faith in Christ and guidance I really was disappointed by the church and left in my heart. I recall the emphasis of being a virgin. Of my lack for worth is I was not so since I could walk I was condemned after being abused. At 7 I felt like a worthless sinner, condemned for life. The church has done so much harm to the world. I did meet very nice nuns and feared some of the priests and nuns . . all in USA by the way.
Since I visited a mass grave in County kildare, it was was near the lakes in Naas where I lived and that was were I brought my children I haven't been able to go to Mass😮❣️💖💕🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😔😕
Subs are shocking, but captivating all the same
Heart brealking. All because of sheer ignorance. I hope these people find peace for their hearts.
ignorance? nah. Fanatisism and misogyny.
Not ignorance! Indoctrination, brainwashing from the most powerful, brutal organisation in the country. To oppose them would be to pout your 'soul in mortal danger', a absolute load of bollocks, but fear means control, covid taught the whole world about that!
I grew up with nuns n I saw so many things. When I left the church I confronted a priest. Made very clear to them that they were the worst sinners. The nuns were very cruel. I have never believed in the Catholic Church.
shame is one of the most painful things a human can feel. in my family they worked a lot with shame too, its horrible. but this here must be uncompareble
Its not just a Catholic Church it was all faith's. Where were the father ? At least they were born and not aborted. The nuns did a good job with all that trauma put on them.
Alot died of TB and women were put in there by there own families.
rubbish
A good job??
Lutherans took care of these kids in a children's home & put them up for adoption.
I agree with the lawyer, these people however old the remaining ones are today, have to be brought before the courts for the conspiracy of protecting child abusers that they were and ARE aware of. They are criminals like anyone else who commits these kinds of crimes and religion certainly shouldn't preclude them from accountability. If anything, they should be held to a higher standard because of their perceived moral high ground and the power they hold.
I was born and raised catholic. As a child, I've always had this strange, and inability to put into words the creepy feeling that followed me about Catholicism, for the nuns at my Catholic school.
It was weird.