For all of you who have reached out about the NVMe options. Well, I did a video on that right here friends: bit.ly/NVMeM1Mac So just to clarify, invest in what you can afford. I'm often asked about future proofing your investment whether with phones, computers, or any other tech. It's a fast moving target, but bumping up your RAM (in my opinion and workflow) will give you the most longevity out of your M1 Mac. The more I push this device with multiple tasks, the more I'm seeing how "pressured" the RAM gets. Will the base models be sufficient for most tasks? Sure. This has been tested by many creators here. I'm just sharing my use case and workflow, and the extra RAM is helpful. Go do the things, and you know where to find me.
Upgrading your ram is honestly very important for a device like this, the mac uses something called swap memory which is basically constantly writing and deleting to your SSD which honestly kills the lifespan of your drive which btw is on the cpu with the ram etc as its all on the chip. So getting something like this not only allows you to invest in more ram but i also lets you get more life out of your maching if you are going to be using it for more than 2 years like quite a lot of people do ( im still using my 2013 15" )
You know my feeling on the RAM😉 I hear you. And, for anyone even thinking about using LogicProX, especially using Rosetta, it will use as much RAM as it can. I found this out pretty quickly. It works well on the chip, but it’s also hungry for RAM.
Hey man, just discovered your video and really like your presentation. It feels like you’re talking to a friend! I seldom subscribe based on just one video but I did it for your channel 😉
Glad I upgraded to 16 GB RAM and kept my M1 Mac Mini. This was a really great informative video and will check out more of these videos on external drives. Looking forward to more tech content.
Hey Matt, glad to have you here and awesome that I was able to help. And yes, that 16GB of RAM (I think) is a worthwhile investment. Look forward to seeing you around.
You just saved me a lot of money! I’ve never had a problem fitting my program files on 256 GB, but I was wanting more storage for games and media with my new drone. For the cost of 512 GB internal, I can have 256 + 1 TB external SSD. Makes a lot of sense to me since I’ll only need the SSD when I’m docked and wanting to play games or do creative work. Patiently waiting for my 256/16 GB M1 MBP
Hey, saving people money and saving lives...sometimes at the same time ;) Really glad that this help out friend. I think you will find that these external SSDs are so versatile. Even with 1TB of internal, I still use these SSDs every day. They're awesome. Best of luck on your set up. That little MBP is going to scream.
Bro, i'm in the middle of changing my room and remodeling and coming up with ideas and ended up deciding on a mac. I haven't bought it yet but you explained everything I needed to know clearly.
I am new to the world of Apple. Just ordered the Mac Mini M1, 16gb ram. But what I actually want to say is the way you interact to your fanbase is just awesome. You talk in a clear and understanding way, and just help so much with your videos. Definitely subbed
That’s awesome you’ve got a mini on the way, and also awesome to have you here. Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. Look forward to seeing you around. 🤙👍
Just stumbled onto your channel because I myself just bought a base model M1 Mac Mini and love hearing the opinions on the machine. Very informative and very well shot. You should have more subs.
@@KevinRossRN just wanted to do a follow up Kevin. I got the Dell S2721Q and mounted the Mac Mini to the back. So sick and really clean setup. Loving the Mac Mini’s power so far.
Yes! I love that you circled back around. That’s so great to hear my friend. And, so stealth behind that monitor 🥷I hope it continues to work out for you.
According to a review on Anandtech, the t7 consumes about 4 times less power compared to the Sandisk Extreme Pro and is almost as fast. This is important if you are also going to use an SSD with a tablet or phone.
Yes, love Anandtech as a resource. I may have to test this out as well since my T5 has always been my go to for the iPad and phones. Appreciate you dropping that nugget of info here.
You are on point! I always wondered what the rendering time between internal ssd vs external. Crazy it was that much of a difference. Sandisk extreme are great drives. Built well and dependable. I ordered 16gb/256 MacBook Pro. I am excited for this. Looking forward to more of your videos.
waiting on delivery of the 16gb mac mini , already got the sandisk 1 tb ssd, so lets hope it all works, ps been a pc user for 25 years, time for a change
Wow! I know, it's been fun to watch what this little thing can do. And, that there are quite a few folks coming over from Windows. Not a ton, but they're trickling over. In my opinion I think it's a great price point to give MacOS a try.
Final cut is ( in my opinion) the easiest to learn...besides iMovie. Not to mention, it’s optimized for the Mac and works really well. Davinci Resolve also works well and has a free trial... just in case you ever want to experiment.
Thanks my man, brilliant vid, really appreciate it. Just deciding if the new Mac Mini is my next computer. People like you, making all these great videos which must take you ages to do - it's brilliant, thanks a lot, really appreciate all the work you do :)
Excited for you! Seriously. I personally hadn’t been this excited about a piece of tech in a long time. I decided to order the MBA as well, but the RAM bump pushed it out closer to Christmas. Let me know what you think when you get it. Stoked for you.
@@KevinRossRN I am in the market for upgrading and would be interested in what your investigations would reveal in terms of pros and cons. Thanks for asking!
I'm building a M1 Mac Mini 16 gig system with a Samsung 500 gig T5 and 500 gig T7 ssd. I don't shoot or process any video but work with large RAW files in my photography. I'm using two hubs, an Elecife and AGPTEK hub. That gives me 1.25 TB of storage.
Kevin I have learned SO much about SSDs in the last few days thx to your channel. Thank you so much for the detailed tech information along with real world examples. I’m currently trying to decide which size internal SSD I need for the MacBook Pro I’ll be ordering. The 3-5 vids I’ve watched of yours have helped immensely.
I really enjoyed this vid, thank you! I’ve ordered my M1 MacBook Pro with the 16gb RAM.. but I have a Sabrent 1TB rocket ($100) and an external TB3 case ($100) that acts as a heat sync. I’m able to get read and write speeds of around 2500Mb/s even through the TB3 cable This has saved me hundreds of dollars with amazing performance So much better value for the cost compared the ready made external SSDs and upgrading the internals with Apple
I was just looking at the Sabrent yesterday. I agree that these cases and buying your own NVMe is a huge plus. Working on a setup from OWC to review. Let me know what Read/Write you’re getting when you’re able to test your MBP.
That is impressive. And I hope this translates to real world performance, getting you as close to those internal speeds as possible. Really appreciate you keep us all updated. Makes research a little easier 😉
Subscribed.... Always find your videos informative. More importantly I agree 100% with your rationales. You really are a pleasure to listen too. Thanks Ross.....Stay Cool..... I'm Canadian living in South Korea.
Hey, so glad to have you here my friend. Fantastic that the content helps you with your buying decision. Sending my best to you. Look forward to seeing you again.
Sure, here is a detailed walkthrough: ruclips.net/video/QhjQjBCHWQ8/видео.html I have a pinned comment in this video which states to make sure you keep original media on the external rather than copying it to the internal as I had in this video. I typically keep all original media on the external.
Thank you for this video. I am now more confident about buying an M1 Mac Mini with base storage and 16GB RAM. I currently have a base model 2015 MacBook Pro 13 and I edit off 2 Pioneer External SSDs that I set on raid through MacOS's Disk Utility. Each disk transfers just over 400MB/s, and in raid they nearly reach 900MB/s. They are on a USB hub connected to the USB-A port on my MBP. My footage is 1080p but I export in 4K. Render times are not a concern to me, but I do need to be able to edit smoothly, which is what my current MBP struggles with.
Yeah, I’m going to be doing another video where I talk about the edit itself. Export isn’t usually an issue, but scrubbing through and playing the timeline with edits can certainly slow things down. Glad to help.
Hi. It’s very informative. I am in a confusion now. Shall I buy Mac m1 air or pro? And any issues with both? Shall I wait for some time? Plz suggest me. Normal usage, photo editing and video editing, safari, google and RUclips.
So a “true” TB3 experience is supposed to be faster. Theoretically speaking, especially with that M.2 setup. I’m still in the process of getting a setup, but I will say that it’s going to take advantage of those TB3 speeds. I believe there are some videos on it. The T7 is fast, but it’s also more of a convenience as well. Many folks just want more of a plug and play setup...I say most, not all😉 As far as pure read and write, it’s going to be faster. The real data is going to come in when you’re actually trying to use this drive to edit on. The bottleneck may exist within the program itself, rendering, or whatever the case. But, that’s in my list.
@@KevinRossRN thanks for the reply. Your figure for rendering time, be it 6 or 8 minutes, is super useful when considering options. Hope to see similar render time comparisons with the NVMe over TB3 setup!
I know, it’ll be interesting to see if there’s really a big improvement. I know that for transfer speeds it’ll blaze by, but yeah, render will be the real test.
OWC makes some of the most reliable ones. Sabrent is also another. You can find them on Amazon, but only a handful are true TB3 and reliable. Not to mention some of these NVMe’s are questionable in those enclosures...specifically the SK Hynix...based on some experiences from others.
Thanks brother! Was (literally) just watching your desk setup when this notification popped up. I think the Internet is following us 👀 Anyway, back over to yours.
The newest Sandisk Extreme Pro SSD that supports NVMe is supposed to be extremely fast. I’m supposed to have the 2TB delivered tomorrow from B&H. Should be perfect for video editing on the M1 MBA.
Well like I was saying in the video, I’ve used external SSDs for years, and even though render took another minute or two (vs. the internal drive), it’s well worth it. Let me know what you think of the MBA. I have one coming as well.
@@KevinRossRN You will definitely enjoy the M1 MBA. Mine has the 16GB ram and 1TB HD. Lightroom is extremely snappy even in its unoptimized state. For video editing, I’m still transcoding to Prores though. I have the Canon R5. Literally any computer chugs on 8K raw and 4K120. It handles 4K120 no problem when transcoded though.
Yeah, I was working with 8K from the R5 and I couldn’t believe I was even able to play it. My MBP with an EGPU choked on the A7siii footage. Nuts. It’s amazing where things are headed right now. This is one massive leap forward.
I’ve definitely got videos on this and recommendations in the description. Depends on whether you want a prebuilt solution or a DIY thunderbolt enclosure.
If you’re going Premiere I would highly recommend 16. It’s not great on the M1. Crashes often. Lightroom runs fine on it. I use it all the time. It’s also RAM hungry the more you use it though.
For my Macmini I went with just the 8gigs of ram as I'm mostly just running Figma and occasionally Affinity photo and affinity designer. It all runs incredibly smoothly. But totally understandable for someone doing video editing to need more RAM. I also buy an external drive when I need more space it but so far I just store files in the cloud.
external. For example on Sandisk extreme 1T. I I got other youtuber also saying that all goes to ram, so the ram has the last word if the ssd will make a difference as well. I use it for audio production
Not typical on the 1TB drives. Some of the smaller ones you might be able benchmark a slow down, but in real world you’d likely not notice, and honestly that would just be if you’re getting close to filling it.
Love and appreciate your content my dude.. just picked up an M1 Mac mini to help cut down some time editing in Adobe Premiere Pro. Was wondering how iCloud can still update across all my devices if I'm using the PRO portable external SSD as my main hard drive? Hopefully that makes sense lol. Thanks again homie.
@@KevinRossRN Appreciate the response man.. so I mainly want to run all my video editing on the SSD which I believe I know how from one of your videos. But I'm running into a problem with my iCloud Drive.. since I have the lowest storage space on the M1 all my content that's on iCloud won't sync to the M1 and if I just use the SSD to store everything then I won't be able to access the new content I create on the M1 across my other devices unless I just keep airdropping. Yikes that's a lot.. basically wanted to know if there was a way I can use the SSD you recommended as a means to keep my iCloud updating across all my devices. sorry that's so jumbled lol. Once again, appreciate the help brother.
Well, to simply a little, because all of that footage is going to pile up quickly, have you thought about a back up drive, like an easy store or something similar? The SSD is great to edit off of and have a few active projects, but that space will get eaten up quickly. I’d advise a cheaper solution like a hard disk drive for archiving. It’ll give you so much more space at a reasonable price. You can often find those drives on sale pretty regularly, especially at Best Buy.
Excellent! Sooo hard to pick about accessories and peripherals so any help saves so much research time! I am still new to editing so forgive me if my questions are dumb. It should always be the plan to render to your internal storage right? I think that is what I understood from your video. I ask because you said upgrade RAM first, but if it’s a time saver should you get the upgraded internal storage first if you are editing? I will only be using 4K timelines and will never be a 8K professional kind of guy so I want to verify that a 1TB internal is the minimal starting point for editors? Sorry, I need baby talk here. So is this right, min 16 gig RAM, 1 TB internal, and external SSD to manage storage of footage and finished work?
No worries. So I actually linked up a video that I did here: ruclips.net/video/IH_iTtiABho/видео.html which explains that process. But to clarify, the RAM upgrade would be my recommendation to occur first. As far as the external SSD, this can hold all of your raw video footage, and the library and editing bundle from final cut pro (or whatever editor). So everything is happening on that external drive. The only thing that remains on your internal drive is Final Cut Pro itself, and any small sized back up files that Final Cut Pro creates. So, the bulk of the editing and files is on the external, while the FCP application just lives on the internal. The examples I mentioned in this video are that I move the entirety of the files from the internal drive to the external, and then deleted them off the internal. Everything occurred on these SSDs. Hope that helps, but just let me know.
Not booting from, but running programs, gaming, editing, etc. it depends on the SSD, but Gen 2 performs similarly to a NVMe. Have a couple of videos on that, and my latest video (today) is on a thunderbolt 4 dock that when fully saturating the ports, boosts the performance.
I saw your other video first, then this one. Great videos and great concept. For me, it’s less about the performance and savings and way more about pushing the organization of my files as far forward into my workflow as possible. I tend to “accumulate” data and that accumulates on my primary HD. It becomes a pain to cull later. If I am working off an external SSD, the accumulation still happens, but it happens on an external drive. When I run out of space, I buy a new one. This would leave my primary HD free of the junk I can’t seem to get rid of. I am not a pro. Just an amateur. I have decades of photos and videos from family and personal work and am looking at starting a pretty specific YT channel so I expect to gather more files in the coming months and years.
I hear you. I have about 60 TBs of data/footage. I move everything over to my NAS once I’m done with a project. File management is really boring, but oh so necessary. Appreciate you stopping by.
You should check out the Satechi hub...they’re designed specifically for the Mac Mini. Just ordered one for my new M1 Mac Mini...16g 256g SSD. I got a 500g external drive but it’s not a SSD...don’t really need to spend the extra cash on a SSD just for extra storage for music, pics and docs.
Who said I might not have picked one of those up?🤔😉 Ha! Yes, in my research I did come across that. It’s actually been in and out of stock online, but I agree. A great little setup for sure. I loved having the ability to add an SSD in my EGPU for my MBP and just edit from that if I needed to. Appreciate the recommendation, and I agree. A great little piece of tech that I hope to be testing and talking about here. 😀 Congrats on the mini! Let me know what you think when it you get some time with it.
I actually never thought about opening the files on the external drive possibly slowing down productivity. Possibly with photoshop work it doesn’t make as much of a difference vs video. But you have me rethinking it. I always used an external hd to save my files for two reasons. 1. My macbook pro only had a dreadful 128. 2. If the drive fails or I get a new computer all my files are saved on the external. So I always just opened files from external and edited. I wonder if I should be dragging them to the hd to edit and then dragging them back. I am working with psds, pngs, and vectors. I actually realized I don’t even have an ssd just a regular samsung external hd. So I will purchase one through your link. Thanks again, I love your videos.
Yeah the 128GB is a dreadful thing, and I'm glad to see that being eliminated from the lineup. Even for someone who doesn't edit, I still think it's not enough unless you literally have most everything in the cloud. As far as the bottleneck, you may experience some of that. I've edited on these drives for years (as I mentioned), and it was mostly because I'm working with very large files, but I can also keep several projects on these drives, and move between them very easily. I also like the fact that these video editors allow for editing (entirely) on these drives. During cutting, correcting and render, that FCP bundle can get as big as 300-400GB's for some of the projects I'm working on, and these aren't that intricate either. Moving your files back and forth is certainly an option. One thing I do as well however is that I make sure to take the files on the SSD and put them on my server when everything is done...as my actual back up solution, but I do always have old files lingering on these SSDs that I refer back to. Which year is your MBP?
@@KevinRossRN 2014, and was working for my needs all the way up till a couple mths ago. It started to get sluggish. I don’t know if the hard drive is failing or what. But I kept just waiting for the m1s to come out. Now it is extremely frustrating to get any work done. I finally got my tracking number for my mac mini. Coming from China, delivery date dec 9. It’s going to be a dramatic change in performance for sure.
Oh yes!! Keep in mind, everything that I use it for (the apps/software) seems to all work really well, even the ones that need Rosetta. They’re tough machines, but I know there’s going to be quite a few updates pushed out to make them better. It’ll definitely blow that MBP out of the water as far as performance, but with patience I think you’ll find the little “experiments” with certain apps are getting worked out. Adobe being one of them. 😀 I’m running Photoshop and Lightroom just fine though.
Some comments i read on the sandisk one was it was failing on people and they were losing files. What are your thoughts? I plan to get the m1x mbp about to launch so I want a decent portable drive that won’t break the bank.
Let’s just say that any SSD can certainly fail and backing up your files regularly is recommended, however I will also say that I use the SanDisk SSD all the time. You even used it today on a project and so far it’s been great. Western Digital makes the drives inside of those enclosures. I also use several DIY NVMe thunderbolt 3 and thunderbolt 4 enclosures.
Totally Agree! So happy with the M1 Mini with 16 GB of RAM, thanks to you. Coupled with 500GM HD. Thought I'd share for your new viewers. Kevin finally laid down the 129 for the SanDisk EXTreme SSD 1 TB! Funny story, I bought the SanDisk for my son for Xmas. After talking to him before the holiday, He told me he has A SD SSD Extreme. So I kept it and bought him a weather vane monitor system for his house. It was a Win Win! Happy New Year my friend!
Ha! That is funny, and glad to hear that it all worked out. And that’s a great price on that SanDisk. Really hard to beat for the price, honestly. Great to see you again. Happy New Year to you as well.
I bought the based mode to use it for a while then reseller as my country is 6 to 1 USD. I'll buy the 16gb model next year. My first Mac so I'm hyped for it to arrive. I'm gonna be learning video editing to get into it as I already do film Photography
Hey Kevin, as someone that keeps nothing but barebones apps but will be recording 4k Vids around 10-15 minutes for youtube, would you recommend 256SSD or 512SSD for internal then get a external SSD in either case? Will that 256 vs 512 affect longevity? Thanks!
The one thing I like about the extra internal is just to have the option to be able to temporarily move files from an external to the internal if needed, but that’s usually something that may happen occasionally. Sometimes I have multiple projects going at once and although I have about 4 or 5 SSDs I still like having another option. As far as longevity, you’ll be fine with 256, but the question I always have is can you afford the extra now and how upset would you be if you didn’t have it later?
@@KevinRossRN Thanks so much Kevin, I went with the 512GB just to be sure, if I want to use it for light gaming or something down the line I won't feel limited and for editing it's great so I can edit on the drive then transfer. I figure a couple hundred dollars for 5+ years of peace is definitely worth it.
I think that’s a great choice my friend, especially if you do want to play some games on there, which some of them can be run on an external, but often times it just helps having that extra space. 😉
Hi, Kevin. It is a great content. I find your video is really tech savvy and smart. I really want to watch all of it, as compare to other videos I watched this is more detailed and professional. Also, a bit of personal preferences, if the video can have separate segments to divide your content to different talking points, it will be much easier to get your valuable points quicker. This is a great work. Just want to offer a little suggestion for people who may not that good at tech.
Thanks. I’ve added more time stamps in more recent videos, usually those that are over 10 minutes long or those that have a clear delineation. Appreciate the feedback and glad you’re here.
outstanding vid! BUT I'm still on the fence, since ill be mainly using the ssd for video editing as well and don't care much abt file transfer rates, should I just get the T5 over the T7 then? theyd probably have the same render performance right? I like the Sandisk better but didnt know it gets almost twice the operating temp of the Samsung! which would u recommend among the four? T5, T7, Extreme Pro v1, v2 (1gbps)
Thanks! Are you working off of an M1? The only reason I ask is that Read and write drop to about 300-400 on the T5, which I think you’d be fine. I did an updated video last week??? I think it was last week. But I shared info on the SanDisk and compared it to some DIY enclosures for video.
@@KevinRossRN yes off the m1 imac. ill check that video out then! you mentioned in this video that performance drops to about 120 (?) when video editing - curious if thatd be different among the 4 ssds
Yeah, so the T5 would be able to handle that just fine, but one of the things I need to cover in an upcoming video is not just export times, but also working through the timeline and playing back smoothly, which again, these externals will do just fine. However I’d be interested to see what you think of a DIY option.
@@KevinRossRN awesome. those are actually the only things im curious about - the timeline & playback performance, and operation temp of the drives. will wait for your video on them before i purchase! if you could do the T5, T7, ExtremePro v1, v2 drives, that would be really great Kev! cheers
Hey there, great video thank you! So should I prefer choosing the Mac with 512 SSD plus an external SSD over the inbuilt 1Tb SSD? Is it faster as well although the SSD is external? Thank you very much!
The internal will be faster, however even though I have 1TB, I still edit on an external for just about every video. I’d say get as much as you can afford. It’s nice to have the internal space when you need it, but for video editing, it’s nice to have that scratch disk and a place to keep your project, and then when done, move it over to a back up. The internal should last for years, but with video editing there’s just a constant read/write happening that pushes those drives a little harder.
I'm actually in the process of reviewing a similar setup. It seems like a good piece of tech, but I'd like to test the speeds on that hard drive enclosure.
Really useful Information ---> Thank You Kevin. Just a thought, you obviously put a lot of thought into your RUclips Content, Have you thought about adding Chapters to your RUclipss, quite easy to do if you already have a list of Chapters that you can Copy-Paste, then you just have to add times at the beginning of each Chapter and RUclips does the rest. ie: Sandisk SSD, add a time to the start --- ie: 04:27 - Sandisk SSD RUclips auto turns the 04:27 into a Hyperlink, and the Timeline of the Video shows the Chapter names. Thanks again
Thanks. Yes, for some videos I do put time stamps in. Not all, but some I do... like my gaming test. For those interested in World of Warcraft, and then those that are interested in Tomb Raider. It just depends on how I break up the content. Some videos are easier than others to add time stamps to.
In my latest video there’s a section (time stamped) about gaming, and setting it up on steam, however I’m in the middle of testing a full gaming walkthrough.
Ha! Well I try. I’m a healthcare provider so I live in the metric system professionally, however living in the US I tend to get pulled back every now and again 😉
You shouldn't tell people to pay for 16GB RAM, I haven't seen any clear evidence of performance difference between the 8GB and the 16GB M1 devices, only difference may be in terms of emulation through Rosetta or perhaps when multi tasking (browsing on a bunch of websites) while rendering a video. There is a new Sandisk SSD Extreme Pro New Generation that is 2000MB/s and I saw a video someone shows it rendering even faster on that than with the internal SSD upgrade. Really, it is my understanding, that people should just choose the entry level 8/256GB and choose the Air not the Pro.
Appreciate you weighing in here, and I appreciate your perspective. Now, I believe I've said to get what you can afford, and to put any bump in spec toward the RAM, which I did state that this is where folks should put that investment first. As far as workflow this doesn't come down to a benchmark app, but rather as you state a real world use case. When rendering a video I would expect that a creator will also have Photoshop or Lightroom open working on their thumbnail for RUclips while the render is occurring, while also have some browser tabs open for research or typing out notes in Google Docs, and doing keyword research (if they are indeed posting on RUclips), and likely a few other tasks that may need that RAM. I remember having to shut everything down but my NLE during render so that I could give it as much RAM, CPU, and GPU runway so that I could just get these projects to render. That's definitely no fun. Yes, these chips are extremely optimized and even Rosetta has been a lifesaver for most of the apps that aren't optimized. The concept of the architecture isn't new, but it is having us think differently about CPU, GPU and utilization of RAM vs the x86 architecture. The base models are very capable and I have quite a few creator friends that are doing just fine. I also have creators I'm in touch with that are benchmarking these against their i9's and dedicated graphics cards. Some on YT, some aren't. But, there are some scenarios we're seeing where the RAM is being utilized whether for development, video editing, or audio...and there are multiple programs/tasks running as you would expect on any machine anyone would be using. But again, I agree that the base model is just fine and will perform quite well, but as this architecture evolves so will the programs that we run on it. Efficiency will be a priority, I'm certain, but we will start seeing more demands on these chips being places...as we ask more of them to do for us. This certainly is about making folks feel bad about a base model investment. If it's what you can afford and gets the job done for you then I'm all for the tool that gets you to where you need to be. For creators that are looking at these machines and comparing them to their iMacs, Mac Pro, or their 16" MBP I certainly don't recommend leaving those behind, but those tests they're running have been a bit more surprising with 8GB vs 16GB. I'm not saying we're going to be able to future proof these things for the next 5+ years necessarily and I understand the law of diminishing returns, but the evolution of the architecture and those demands will likely put some folks in the camp of wishing for more RAM. As far as the next gen external drive, I plan on building (assembling) one and popping in an NVMe setup in it for my own testing to see where, if any, bottleneck exists. Appreciate you weighing in here. I always welcome differing opinions. What do you currently use if I may I ask?
@@KevinRossRN I currently use my Intel Xeon + Nvidia GTX1080 in the Shadow.tech cloud (at $15/month) for all my 4K60 video editing, over the past 18 months or so. Before that I would edit 4K30 on wevideo in the cloud for about 18 months, and before that I did all my 1080p video editing directly on RUclips Editor (which has since been discontinued). Sure I am not to be considered pro video editor, but I have published about 3000+ videos in 4K on my RUclips channel, most videos I actually don't need to edit, I mostly just film all in one shot. But there are 20% of my videos or so which I do need to edit, quick trim, join some clips on a basic timeline mostly, sometimes recently I also multi camera edit 2 videos at 4K60 onto a 4K60 timeline, so I need auto clip sync and easy pushing 1 or 2 on the keyboard to select camera angle in the edit. Render out quickly is useful too. I actually think the entry level M1 Mini or M1 Air outperforms my $2000-equivalent Xeon+GTX1080 setup in the cloud. But I still only pay $15/month so I cannot justify investing $700-1000 for an M1 Mac. Though I really really want it, and doing that also get onto using something like Davinci Resolve and try if I can upgrade my content to 4K 10bit 4:2:2, publish HLG content, but my Panasonic G9 would only be able to do that in 4K30 so I would only do that if I somehow upgrade to another camera, the A7Siii is way too expensive and has worse IBIS than my G9, but maybe Panasonic comes with a G10/GH6 shortly. Here in Europe the prices are also about 35% higher than in the USA (thanks a lot Apple!) I have been talking about Arm powered laptops for over 10 years on my RUclips, I filmed hundreds of them. And my website is called armdevices, so in my understanding of how those Arm platforms are done, is that they have nothing to do with x86. The RAM can be used totally differently. By Arm chips on Android and iOS and their OS have been totally designed differently the way multi tasking works, the bottleneck I think can only really happen if you use 2 or more apps simultaneously that absolutely need RAM and can't manage with SSD Swap. If currently you put the video render as a background task while you open your web browser or edit the thumbnail, it's possible that Big Sur slows down your rendering session because it downgrades the importance of that video render using RAM, but I think that is likely a little mistake they can easily optimize in the months to come. Stuff like video rendering, even when places as a "background app" should always have prioritized access to the fast RAM. Anything other you might do, would probably perform just fine on second grade Swap memory to SSD, even if you are web browsing complicated websites, it needs much less imperative RAM access, so I think in the months to come, for sure, the optimizations will only mean that less RAM will only work even better. The only risk for the RAM is for Apple to be truely evil and somehow they might decide to "down throttle low RAM or old devices" over time, just as there has been admitted evidence of Apple doing with iPhones over the past decade, they justified it being to save on battery usage as the unreplaceable batteries get worse. Apple might purposefully slow down 8GB RAM devices in like 6 months, then prioritizing the experience for 16GB RAM users, but I actually kind of doubt they would do that. What I think is more likely to happen is that Apple will release more entry level devices still, I think a 8GB/128GB entry level laptop and Mini is possible at about further $200 lower price or so. The hardware of a Macbook Air costs more or less the same as an iPad, not much more actually. So if Apple can sell iPads at $499 they can offer some cheaper Laptop too. They might not make the cheaper one as "metallic" as the Air/Pro, it might be something a bit smaller and thinner. So when they do that, they can't be making those more mass market devices slow down overtime. I think surely as more and more apps get M1 native optimized, the performance with 8GB RAM is only going to keep getting better. Even Apple's first party apps Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Garageband, etc will only get even better, maybe 20-30% better with further M1 optimizations over the months to come. I also think Adobe, Google Chrome, Microsoft Office and others will keep optimizing so the experience on 8GB RAM I think will only keep getting better.
You on and I are on the same page. I hear you on all fronts. I think that’s the thing we’re not certain about with Apple’s SoC and their software. With every iteration of the MacOS updates, we seemed to experience slow downs one way or another. It’s definitely evident in their handsets, but I’ve only been using iPhone since April. Maybe Apple will bring better software and hardware efficiency because it’s their chipset. For the creators on RUclips, and maybe I’ll just speak for myself, this is just one of the business endeavors I’m involved in. Testing and reviewing, giving my thoughts. When the next iteration comes out, yes, I will get it and compare the two. But for most I just want to make sure they get a little more longevity out of their setups because I know that those watching videos on the updated M1X or whatever they call it, are those that waited and are curious about finally upgrading. Whereas I also hope I can report back to those that have the M1 that they’re fine having made the investment they made today, and there’s no reason that M1 is obsolete...hopefully that makes sense. Anyway, it’s still been fun working with these machines. Feel free to keep me in the loop on what you end up deciding, if the M1 or next iteration is in your future 😉
@@KevinRossRN I hope they do M1 at 8GB/128GB at $499 for Mini or $799 for Air, then that's what I would go for. And with the 1TB or 2TB Sandisk Extreme Pro New Generation at 2000MB/s external SSD. Still waiting a bit I bet maybe Apple decides to release those after Christmas or so. So basically, just only use internal SSD for app installation data, and all rushes and output the renderings to the external SSD only, and backup rushes+edits to an external HDD and the cloud. But I would also just simply stick to my Arm powered Chromebooks and Arm Powered Windows 10 laptops as soon as Google/Microsoft and Qualcomm simply announce to support video editing apps for 4K60 video editing on those, I am sure those other Arm processors also have realtime+ hardware acceleration for 4K60 encoding/decoding in themselves, even with many codecs supported, so I expect sometime in 2021 to also see good 4K60 video editing on those cheaper Arm powered laptops and mini PC desktops too, at half the price or lower than current M1 Air. In my opinion $1000 for an Arm powered laptop is way overpriced. I understand though the M1 is a beast and it's awesome, I do not expect Apple to already bring an M1X or successor that soon, more likely I think any Mac Pro/iMac might "simply" run 2 or 4 of the M1 processors and work them in parallel to render out videos 2x to 4x faster.
Yeah, that’s a good assessment on those “higher end” Macs. The interesting thing will be how they deal with cutting into their iPad sales with the MacBook Air being so capable, and having a keyboard and really good display. I’m still using my iPad Air, but I’ve seen a lot of folks transitioning over to the MBA as a replacement. Exciting times for the consumer (creator or not).
Very informative Kevin. I’m intending to purchase a M1 in a few months and yet I buy my house. I want to start backing up old files from PC. If I back it all up now from PC , will it need to be reformatted when I move to Mac ?
If you use the exFAT file format, then it'll "communicate" with both Windows and Mac. I would say though that SSDs are nice, very fast, but for a longer term back up solution, you could also consider a hard disk drive system. Much cheaper, however for a working external drive SSDs are the way to go.
Awesome. And I’d just go straight to erasing/formatting that drive. It has this security app on it and if you install it, it can then make it harder to format. You just want the drive to work and I assume you may not need any extra security protocols.
Great Videos! I have enjoyed the series, I am still looking for external storage for my Mac Studio. Have you looked at the Trebleet - Super Thunderbolt 3 Dock for Mac Studio&Mac Mini, Dock Station with NVMe/SATA Slot? Its 299, but could be a good deal for what I need. Company seems legit and has replied to my questions and hasn't tried to hide the poor external speed issue on the M1 system. I need this to serve my mac and new iPad Pro.
Thanks! I don’t have direct experience with the Trebleet, but do know about the company. I’ve been meaning to review some of their hardware. Are you looking more as an archiving solution or would like to primarily work off of the SSD?
@@KevinRossRN I'm looking for a lot, and trying to invest wisely for future proofing. Mostly I need a work drive, but also need a hub for various legacy items like drives, an audio interface, piano. The CFexpress card reader would come in handy eventually as well as the extra SDXC card slot would come in handy, I have a 250GB card I already use on my 2013 MacBook Pro. Trebleet would give me the ability to add 2TB of SSD and a SATA Drive. While I already have a few 4TB external hard drives, which I have had issues with due to a cheap usb hub. I want to use the Trebleet SSD for a work Drive and use the SATA for Time Machine. I am hesitant due to the price, but its not that bad of a deal for all its offering.
Gotcha. Well as far as the price, it’s pretty much in line with most Thunderbolt docks I’ve used or my colleagues have invested in. A good hub/dock should return in the investment of time and of course the ability to scale up, which you’d be able to do with your current/future peripherals. I’d have to look into the actual specs of this Trebleet dock as I assume that you might be giving up a TB port or two if it’s giving you the option of housing a SSD or SATA drive.
@@KevinRossRN wanted to say I got that trebleet dock and it’s rocking it in speed. Already getting a bigger SSD stick for it, I made the mistake of saving a hundred bucks and only getting 1tb. That would suit me for a work drive at this time but I ended up really needing an SSD for my Apple Photos(cloud works but drives me insane on loading videos). The dock does a great job of tying together all my little external drives. I bought an Akasis enclosure for the 1tb stick. Using Samsung 980 pro, recommended by trebleet. I paid more than I wanted but consider it a better purchase due to the ability to upgrade easily. I mean I’m already switching out sticks and it’s not even been a month. I posted a response on one of your latest videos but felt it would be more relevant to comment back on this discussion. Thanks again for the great videos they helped me in the right direction. I was a pro audio guy, but video is another animal.
Thx for all your effort you put into making these useful videos! One question: what does your workflow look like when using the external ssd‘s? Plugging in the SD card and copying it onto the mac and then to the external SSD or copying the content of the SD card directly to the external SSD?
So using a hub, just plugging in the SD card to the computer (via the hub), then moving files from the SD to the SSD...I really need to do a video on this. I get asked this all the time, so I better answer the community with a step by step 😀
I was wondering the EXACT same thing! LoL. I’m coming across this vid nearly a year later so if you’re made a vid answering this PLEASE drop a link. Also wondering if an SSD would work as seamlessly if editing on an m1 iPad Pro? 🤔🤔🤔
I got my son an iMac M1 8 gigs. He down loaded photo shop, premier pro and adobe illustrator and now he has no memory to actually run it. What do you recommend as an external drive ? He’s a greasy man and I sign him up for 1 week class … let me know
You mean an external drive other than what I recommended in the video? And when you say he doesn’t have memory, is it RAM you’re talking about or storage space?
@@KevinRossRN I meant external drive. I saw another video of yours to familiar myself with memory / ram. I ended up getting ssd scan drive 1 tb, lt was on sale for $109 at Best Buy. I’m not computer savvy , but your videos are very helpful.
So I did a video on the setup here: ruclips.net/video/z6KbLznmAZI/видео.html It's not really a table so much as it is kitchen cabinets. 98 inches (~249cm) in length and about 26 inches (~66cm) deep. It's one of the best things I did for the studio.
Great video! Just what I needed to hear as I’m going to buy the m1 Mac mini 16gb ram 256gb ssd. I’m not sure if you use Logic Pro x but I’m planning on using an external ssd to store Logic Pro’s sound library on and other 3rd party virtual instrument libraries. Would you recommend the Sandisk extreme for this sort of stuff or do you think the T5 would be sufficient? Thanks for the great advice! Peace ✌🏼
I do use Logic and storing the library on the T5 would be fine. The SanDisk has about twice the read and write, but that’s really just theoretical and you should be fine.
@@KevinRossRN thanks so much just what i needed to hear and can’t wait to start using this new mac. Still rocking a late 2013 so should notice a big difference haha!
This is great advice, and that saves lots of unnecessary expense. External Drives, and even FREE cloud storage on sites like DropBox, and Box, help people on tight budges. Great video! Thanks for such practical tips!
Awesome Video! Super informative and answered most questions I had about external drives. I do need a suggestion from you if you don’t mind. Im thinking of purchasing M1MBP with 16gb and 1TB just because I had budgeted for the 16” i9 MBP, but im wondering if it’s overkill for the work I’ll be doing, which is Photo-Editing, Video-Editing and just casual business work; emails, conference calls, etc... Would 8gb RAM and 512gb SSD manage? In just starting my business so I don’t know how much work I’ll have because of the clientele.
Not sure what apps you’re using for photo editing, but what I can say is that photoshop and Lightroom are definitely hungry for that RAM. How long do you plan to keep the machine?
@@KevinRossRN currently I am using photoshop and Lightroom heavily. I plan on upgrading to Final Cut Pro for video Editing from my current software. And honestly probably till it dies on me, this is gonna be my 1st Mac so we’ll see how well it does. I’ve been using a super slow desktop for everything so far, but I want something faster and more portable because I am always on the go to different shoots.
Well I would say that you’d likely not really notice a big real world difference, however the T7 will (typically) have a faster transfer rate of larger files from your internal drive to the external drive.
There is a piece of software on the T7 that sometimes can cause issues…it’s security related. If you get it. Once you connect it, open up disk utility and format it before you do anything else. It’ll erase that software that you don’t need.
You are so right about the 8 gb of ram verses 16. I have a Macbook pro 2013 (upgraded to 16g of ram 512) and it is kicking my iMac 2015 tail (8g Ran 1TB).. thank you for the knowledge.
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For all of you who have reached out about the NVMe options. Well, I did a video on that right here friends: bit.ly/NVMeM1Mac
So just to clarify, invest in what you can afford. I'm often asked about future proofing your investment whether with phones, computers, or any other tech. It's a fast moving target, but bumping up your RAM (in my opinion and workflow) will give you the most longevity out of your M1 Mac. The more I push this device with multiple tasks, the more I'm seeing how "pressured" the RAM gets. Will the base models be sufficient for most tasks? Sure. This has been tested by many creators here. I'm just sharing my use case and workflow, and the extra RAM is helpful. Go do the things, and you know where to find me.
Upgrading your ram is honestly very important for a device like this, the mac uses something called swap memory which is basically constantly writing and deleting to your SSD which honestly kills the lifespan of your drive which btw is on the cpu with the ram etc as its all on the chip. So getting something like this not only allows you to invest in more ram but i also lets you get more life out of your maching if you are going to be using it for more than 2 years like quite a lot of people do ( im still using my 2013 15" )
You know my feeling on the RAM😉
I hear you.
And, for anyone even thinking about using LogicProX, especially using Rosetta, it will use as much RAM as it can. I found this out pretty quickly. It works well on the chip, but it’s also hungry for RAM.
How much storage did you get w/the Mac mini M1 Ik you got 16 gb of ram but what was the main storage on the device?
I ended up getting 1TB…if you’re asking about my configuration.
Can I scrub easily through 6k timeline on M2 air with t5..??
Hey man, just discovered your video and really like your presentation. It feels like you’re talking to a friend! I seldom subscribe based on just one video but I did it for your channel 😉
Well alright! 👊 That’s what it’s like around here. I want everyone to feel welcome. Look forward to seeing you around the channel.
Glad I upgraded to 16 GB RAM and kept my M1 Mac Mini. This was a really great informative video and will check out more of these videos on external drives. Looking forward to more tech content.
Hey Matt, glad to have you here and awesome that I was able to help. And yes, that 16GB of RAM (I think) is a worthwhile investment.
Look forward to seeing you around.
Just bought the sandisk, great video, love the presentation, underrated channel
Congrats on the SanDisk. Hope it works out for you. And many thanks for the comment. 👊
You just saved me a lot of money! I’ve never had a problem fitting my program files on 256 GB, but I was wanting more storage for games and media with my new drone. For the cost of 512 GB internal, I can have 256 + 1 TB external SSD. Makes a lot of sense to me since I’ll only need the SSD when I’m docked and wanting to play games or do creative work. Patiently waiting for my 256/16 GB M1 MBP
Hey, saving people money and saving lives...sometimes at the same time ;)
Really glad that this help out friend. I think you will find that these external SSDs are so versatile. Even with 1TB of internal, I still use these SSDs every day. They're awesome.
Best of luck on your set up. That little MBP is going to scream.
Very professional. Very clean. Very informative. You remind me of Mark Wahlberg and John Cena. Best wishes to you brother! ✊🏼
Thanks a hundred times over! Appreciate you very much. Sending my best to you as well.
i can't see john cena. do you?
I’ve got my eyes out 👀
@@KevinRossRN I am editor so I can edit 300gb movie is in external so I can edit in 256 gb ssd m1 air
You can edit as much footage as the external has available space for and that internal can just host the app itself.
I like how your m1 reviews have been peaking. Good content and excellent delivery
Much appreciate you my friend. It’s been fun over here. As you know (as a creator), I enjoy hanging out chatting it up with everyone.
why are you so soothing to hear
Hey, as long as I’m not putting you to sleep 😴 😄
Bro, i'm in the middle of changing my room and remodeling and coming up with ideas and ended up deciding on a mac. I haven't bought it yet but you explained everything I needed to know clearly.
That’s awesome! Very glad to help. And best of luck and getting everything dialed in. 👊
I bought the Sandisk 500gb for like $80 bucks, and I love it
These things are great. Love hearing that others are getting use out of them. Appreciate the comment friend.
This is exactly what I needed to know, than you!
I made this video for you 😉
Thanks man! Was hesitated first, but bought M1-256 + T7 and UBS hub from your links.
Thanks! The external SSD should serve you well my friend.
I am new to the world of Apple. Just ordered the Mac Mini M1, 16gb ram. But what I actually want to say is the way you interact to your fanbase is just awesome. You talk in a clear and understanding way, and just help so much with your videos. Definitely subbed
That’s awesome you’ve got a mini on the way, and also awesome to have you here. Really appreciate you taking the time to comment. Look forward to seeing you around. 🤙👍
First time viewer. That was helpful. Thanks.
Well I'm super glad I was able to help. Thanks!
I recently purchased the Sandisk Extreme Pro V2. Now I'm waiting on my MBP (M1) to arrive.
Alrighty! Nice. What will be your primary use case?
@@KevinRossRN photography and drone footage.
Saweet! It’s been such a pleasure editing on this M1. Keep me in the loop on what you think of it when it comes in.
@@KevinRossRN will do
It's fast for my needs, but doesn't not achieve rated speeds because it USB and TB3. Around 830mb/s.
Thank you. Glad I found your channel on my suggestion feed.
Well I'm glad we found each other. Great to have you around.
Just stumbled onto your channel because I myself just bought a base model M1 Mac Mini and love hearing the opinions on the machine. Very informative and very well shot. You should have more subs.
Appreciate you stumbling over here. Happy to help. Do you have your Mac already, and if so, what do you think of it?
@@KevinRossRN I have it, the keyboard, and the mouse. Just shopping displays right now.
Nice! Best of luck on the display. That’s a whole other rabbit hole to go down. 😀
@@KevinRossRN just wanted to do a follow up Kevin. I got the Dell S2721Q and mounted the Mac Mini to the back. So sick and really clean setup. Loving the Mac Mini’s power so far.
Yes! I love that you circled back around. That’s so great to hear my friend. And, so stealth behind that monitor 🥷I hope it continues to work out for you.
According to a review on Anandtech, the t7 consumes about 4 times less power compared to the Sandisk Extreme Pro and is almost as fast. This is important if you are also going to use an SSD with a tablet or phone.
Yes, love Anandtech as a resource. I may have to test this out as well since my T5 has always been my go to for the iPad and phones.
Appreciate you dropping that nugget of info here.
So the T5 is really ideal
The T5 is a great SSD.
You are on point!
I always wondered what the rendering time between internal ssd vs external. Crazy it was that much of a difference.
Sandisk extreme are great drives. Built well and dependable.
I ordered 16gb/256 MacBook Pro. I am excited for this.
Looking forward to more of your videos.
Hey, just trying to research and help where I can 👊 Much appreciated friend. Keep us posted when that MBP comes in. See you around the channel.
waiting on delivery of the 16gb mac mini , already got the sandisk 1 tb ssd, so lets hope it all works, ps been a pc user for 25 years, time for a change
Wow! I know, it's been fun to watch what this little thing can do. And, that there are quite a few folks coming over from Windows. Not a ton, but they're trickling over. In my opinion I think it's a great price point to give MacOS a try.
@@KevinRossRN going to install the final cut pro too as i am sick of trying to edit 4k on my stuttering proxy laden timeline.
Final cut is ( in my opinion) the easiest to learn...besides iMovie.
Not to mention, it’s optimized for the Mac and works really well. Davinci Resolve also works well and has a free trial... just in case you ever want to experiment.
I am about to do the same. new to MAC as well...
Great video I dont know if I will spend the money for that just yet but thanks for the review!
My pleasure. And thank you for hanging out here.
Thanks my man, brilliant vid, really appreciate it. Just deciding if the new Mac Mini is my next computer. People like you, making all these great videos which must take you ages to do - it's brilliant, thanks a lot, really appreciate all the work you do :)
Thanks! Yes, these videos sometimes take days to plan, record and edit...although the editing part is a lot quicker on these machines 😉
That was my thinking when I ordered my M1 Mac mini. I ordered the 16gb and bought a 500gb T7.👍
Nice! It’s honestly a great way to save some cash and they really are convenient to have around. Do you have the mini or still waiting on it?
@@KevinRossRN I’m still waiting on it, it supposed to be delivered by the 12/15. 👍
Excited for you! Seriously. I personally hadn’t been this excited about a piece of tech in a long time. I decided to order the MBA as well, but the RAM bump pushed it out closer to Christmas.
Let me know what you think when you get it. Stoked for you.
im thinking on buying the mbp m1 16gb ram and 512gb ssd what do u guys think it will cost me 1675€ with student discount
So, not sure of your situation, but is that an attainable budget goal? What will you mostly be using it for?
Crisp audio. Great lighting. Straight to the point information.
Why thank you. Happy to be of service 👊
Great video. Could you do a similar one evaluating Logic Pro X on the Mac Mini please!
Sure. What’s your particular use case with Logic? I will say that it does get hungry for RAM, but that’s usually been my experience.
@@KevinRossRN I am in the market for upgrading and would be interested in what your investigations would reveal in terms of pros and cons. Thanks for asking!
@@KevinRossRN i would also like one on logic please. i'm a producer
Are there specific third party plugins you’re using at the moment?
@@KevinRossRN spitfire and native instruments but I’m looking to add more with time
I'm building a M1 Mac Mini 16 gig system with a Samsung 500 gig T5 and 500 gig T7 ssd. I don't shoot or process any video but work with large RAW files in my photography. I'm using two hubs, an Elecife and AGPTEK hub. That gives me 1.25 TB of storage.
Nice! That’s definitely quite a bit of storage. And I think as long as you’re not needing that speed through the hub, then that should work.
Hi very helpful, nice and clear presentation. Silly question may I ask where you got your headphones stand?
Sure thing. I actually got it from Amazon. Love it: amzn.to/3mNbTsg
Kevin I have learned SO much about SSDs in the last few days thx to your channel. Thank you so much for the detailed tech information along with real world examples. I’m currently trying to decide which size internal SSD I need for the MacBook Pro I’ll be ordering. The 3-5 vids I’ve watched of yours have helped immensely.
Awesome. Really glad these are helping.
I really enjoyed this vid, thank you! I’ve ordered my M1 MacBook Pro with the 16gb RAM.. but I have a Sabrent 1TB rocket ($100) and an external TB3 case ($100) that acts as a heat sync. I’m able to get read and write speeds of around 2500Mb/s even through the TB3 cable
This has saved me hundreds of dollars with amazing performance
So much better value for the cost compared the ready made external SSDs and upgrading the internals with Apple
I was just looking at the Sabrent yesterday. I agree that these cases and buying your own NVMe is a huge plus. Working on a setup from OWC to review.
Let me know what Read/Write you’re getting when you’re able to test your MBP.
@@KevinRossRN Hey I got my m1 Mac I was able to 1200Mb/s write speed and 2400Mb/s read pretty impressive for $200
That is impressive. And I hope this translates to real world performance, getting you as close to those internal speeds as possible. Really appreciate you keep us all updated. Makes research a little easier 😉
Thank you, Kevin, this helped me out so much. I am a bit late on getting a mac mini but this helped me make the decision.
That’s great! Best of luck 🤞
Many thanks. Waiting for 16GB/512 (then external SSDs) M1 Mac mini: What’s your screen?
Awesome! The screen is in the description, but it’s a viewsonic ultra wide. I love it.
Subscribed.... Always find your videos informative. More importantly I agree 100% with your rationales. You really are a pleasure to listen too. Thanks Ross.....Stay Cool..... I'm Canadian living in South Korea.
Hey, so glad to have you here my friend. Fantastic that the content helps you with your buying decision. Sending my best to you. Look forward to seeing you again.
Yep, will get one. Thank you
Best of luck 🤞
Can you show us your ssd workflow. some of us are not really familiar with working through your ssd. and tell us the pro's and con's. Thank you Kevin
Sure, here is a detailed walkthrough: ruclips.net/video/QhjQjBCHWQ8/видео.html
I have a pinned comment in this video which states to make sure you keep original media on the external rather than copying it to the internal as I had in this video.
I typically keep all original media on the external.
Thank you for this video. I am now more confident about buying an M1 Mac Mini with base storage and 16GB RAM. I currently have a base model 2015 MacBook Pro 13 and I edit off 2 Pioneer External SSDs that I set on raid through MacOS's Disk Utility. Each disk transfers just over 400MB/s, and in raid they nearly reach 900MB/s. They are on a USB hub connected to the USB-A port on my MBP. My footage is 1080p but I export in 4K. Render times are not a concern to me, but I do need to be able to edit smoothly, which is what my current MBP struggles with.
Yeah, I’m going to be doing another video where I talk about the edit itself. Export isn’t usually an issue, but scrubbing through and playing the timeline with edits can certainly slow things down.
Glad to help.
Hi. It’s very informative. I am in a confusion now. Shall I buy Mac m1 air or pro? And any issues with both? Shall I wait for some time? Plz suggest me. Normal usage, photo editing and video editing, safari, google and RUclips.
Do you need the computer right now? Meaning, do you have something right now that is capable? What editing programs would you mostly be using?
Outstanding presentation, thank you.
I appreciate you taking the time to be here.
You’ve fast become one of my favorite channels. Respect
Many thanks friend. Glad you’re here.
I'm curious as to how a USB 4 to M.2 adapter with NVMe storage would fare in price and performance vs the T7.
So a “true” TB3 experience is supposed to be faster. Theoretically speaking, especially with that M.2 setup. I’m still in the process of getting a setup, but I will say that it’s going to take advantage of those TB3 speeds. I believe there are some videos on it.
The T7 is fast, but it’s also more of a convenience as well. Many folks just want more of a plug and play setup...I say most, not all😉
As far as pure read and write, it’s going to be faster. The real data is going to come in when you’re actually trying to use this drive to edit on. The bottleneck may exist within the program itself, rendering, or whatever the case. But, that’s in my list.
@@KevinRossRN thanks for the reply. Your figure for rendering time, be it 6 or 8 minutes, is super useful when considering options. Hope to see similar render time comparisons with the NVMe over TB3 setup!
I know, it’ll be interesting to see if there’s really a big improvement. I know that for transfer speeds it’ll blaze by, but yeah, render will be the real test.
Who makes TB3 or USB4 to NVMe case/adapters? I think OWC does, but anyone else?
OWC makes some of the most reliable ones. Sabrent is also another. You can find them on Amazon, but only a handful are true TB3 and reliable. Not to mention some of these NVMe’s are questionable in those enclosures...specifically the SK Hynix...based on some experiences from others.
Very usual info mate. Answered my question 👊🏼
Glad this helped. Thanks for being here.
Could you please tell me the color of your walls. I love that gray!
Yeah, I did a desk setup tour last year, and I’m updating it, but the white is falling snow and the gray is shadow mountain. Both are from BEHR.
@@KevinRossRN thanks so much!!!!!!!
You bet. Best of luck
@@KevinRossRN thanks again! Happy Thanksgiving!
And to you as well friend.
Helpful! Thanks Kevin.
You bet. Thank you.
Thanks. I've a bunch of those drives so I think I'll make the leap to the mac mini.
Mac mini it is! What do you currently have?
I have a 2010 Mac Pro 5.1 which has served me well.
Hey, I’ve got two MBPs from 2010 that we still have in rotation. I hear you on that one. So it sounds like you’re due for an upgrade 😀
DUDE YOU ARE SO UNDERRATED!!!!!
A big thanks my friend. Glad it helped.
Should I get a Mac mini or a iMac for video and photo editing and school
Do you already have a monitor to pair with the Mac mini?
Great tips. Thank you. Really help full.
Glad that it helped. Thanks for letting me know. 👍🙏
Wow! So calm. First time watching you and loving your energy.
Much appreciated friend. Glad to have you over here and hope that this helped.
What mic do you use to record your videos? Thanks for the video.
If you’re referring to this video it should be in the description, but I believe it’s the shotgun mic from Deity. Still use it to boom mic shots.
Excellent thanks
Thank you 🙏
A very good video, keep the good work.
I’ll keep moving forward, thanks!
Great vid!
Thanks brother! Was (literally) just watching your desk setup when this notification popped up. I think the Internet is following us 👀
Anyway, back over to yours.
The newest Sandisk Extreme Pro SSD that supports NVMe is supposed to be extremely fast. I’m supposed to have the 2TB delivered tomorrow from B&H. Should be perfect for video editing on the M1 MBA.
Well like I was saying in the video, I’ve used external SSDs for years, and even though render took another minute or two (vs. the internal drive), it’s well worth it. Let me know what you think of the MBA. I have one coming as well.
@@KevinRossRN You will definitely enjoy the M1 MBA. Mine has the 16GB ram and 1TB HD. Lightroom is extremely snappy even in its unoptimized state. For video editing, I’m still transcoding to Prores though. I have the Canon R5. Literally any computer chugs on 8K raw and 4K120. It handles 4K120 no problem when transcoded though.
Yeah, I was working with 8K from the R5 and I couldn’t believe I was even able to play it. My MBP with an EGPU choked on the A7siii footage. Nuts.
It’s amazing where things are headed right now. This is one massive leap forward.
Good vid. Just bought macbook pro 13 with ssd512 16gb ram and I’m doing research for external drives for editing. For which one to go?
I’ve definitely got videos on this and recommendations in the description. Depends on whether you want a prebuilt solution or a DIY thunderbolt enclosure.
Thanks for the video! As of now, im looking for the 16gb Macbook Air.. seems to be out :(
Yeah, it’s a bit seller right now. So many deals on it. I’d say if you can wait, and you’re doing heavy tasks, I’d certainly recommend the 16GB.
@@KevinRossRN actually no, i do not plan to do heavy editing, just moderate.. would you think the 8GB will Suffice? i’m starting to get torn haha
Which editing program will be using?
@@KevinRossRN Adobe Lightroom , premiere pro and/or DaVinci resolve..
If you’re going Premiere I would highly recommend 16. It’s not great on the M1. Crashes often. Lightroom runs fine on it. I use it all the time. It’s also RAM hungry the more you use it though.
For my Macmini I went with just the 8gigs of ram as I'm mostly just running Figma and occasionally Affinity photo and affinity designer. It all runs incredibly smoothly. But totally understandable for someone doing video editing to need more RAM. I also buy an external drive when I need more space it but so far I just store files in the cloud.
You will certainly be just fine with that my friend. I need to test out Affinity on this machine. Thanks for reminding me 😄
does the free space affects performance of the ssd?
You mean the internal SSD or an external?
external. For example on Sandisk extreme 1T. I
I got other youtuber also saying that all goes to ram, so the ram has the last word if the ssd will make a difference as well. I use it for audio production
Not typical on the 1TB drives. Some of the smaller ones you might be able benchmark a slow down, but in real world you’d likely not notice, and honestly that would just be if you’re getting close to filling it.
@@KevinRossRN thx very much! gratulations for the channel
You bet. And thank you.
Love and appreciate your content my dude.. just picked up an M1 Mac mini to help cut down some time editing in Adobe Premiere Pro. Was wondering how iCloud can still update across all my devices if I'm using the PRO portable external SSD as my main hard drive? Hopefully that makes sense lol. Thanks again homie.
Thanks! So do you want to sync everything from the SSD to iCloud? Or just manually put those files in there?
@@KevinRossRN Appreciate the response man.. so I mainly want to run all my video editing on the SSD which I believe I know how from one of your videos. But I'm running into a problem with my iCloud Drive.. since I have the lowest storage space on the M1 all my content that's on iCloud won't sync to the M1 and if I just use the SSD to store everything then I won't be able to access the new content I create on the M1 across my other devices unless I just keep airdropping. Yikes that's a lot.. basically wanted to know if there was a way I can use the SSD you recommended as a means to keep my iCloud updating across all my devices. sorry that's so jumbled lol. Once again, appreciate the help brother.
Well, to simply a little, because all of that footage is going to pile up quickly, have you thought about a back up drive, like an easy store or something similar?
The SSD is great to edit off of and have a few active projects, but that space will get eaten up quickly. I’d advise a cheaper solution like a hard disk drive for archiving. It’ll give you so much more space at a reasonable price. You can often find those drives on sale pretty regularly, especially at Best Buy.
@@KevinRossRN awesome. Thanks again dude! Keep killing it.
Indeed 👊🤙
Excellent! Sooo hard to pick about accessories and peripherals so any help saves so much research time! I am still new to editing so forgive me if my questions are dumb. It should always be the plan to render to your internal storage right? I think that is what I understood from your video. I ask because you said upgrade RAM first, but if it’s a time saver should you get the upgraded internal storage first if you are editing? I will only be using 4K timelines and will never be a 8K professional kind of guy so I want to verify that a 1TB internal is the minimal starting point for editors? Sorry, I need baby talk here. So is this right, min 16 gig RAM, 1 TB internal, and external SSD to manage storage of footage and finished work?
Many thanks 🙏 and certainly happy to help.
@@KevinRossRN I added a question Kevin in my edit. Can you take a look please?
No worries. So I actually linked up a video that I did here: ruclips.net/video/IH_iTtiABho/видео.html
which explains that process. But to clarify, the RAM upgrade would be my recommendation to occur first.
As far as the external SSD, this can hold all of your raw video footage, and the library and editing bundle from final cut pro (or whatever editor). So everything is happening on that external drive. The only thing that remains on your internal drive is Final Cut Pro itself, and any small sized back up files that Final Cut Pro creates. So, the bulk of the editing and files is on the external, while the FCP application just lives on the internal.
The examples I mentioned in this video are that I move the entirety of the files from the internal drive to the external, and then deleted them off the internal. Everything occurred on these SSDs. Hope that helps, but just let me know.
You can also get the samsung t7, it has the same read/write speed.
You can indeed. That is correct.
I like your to the point presentation. New sub
Nice! 💪 Much appreciate it. Looking forward to having you around here.
Do you have a video describing the performance gains/losses of booting from an external ssd or nvme drive on an M1 Mac. I have a base Mac mini M1.
Not booting from, but running programs, gaming, editing, etc. it depends on the SSD, but Gen 2 performs similarly to a NVMe. Have a couple of videos on that, and my latest video (today) is on a thunderbolt 4 dock that when fully saturating the ports, boosts the performance.
I saw your other video first, then this one. Great videos and great concept. For me, it’s less about the performance and savings and way more about pushing the organization of my files as far forward into my workflow as possible. I tend to “accumulate” data and that accumulates on my primary HD. It becomes a pain to cull later. If I am working off an external SSD, the accumulation still happens, but it happens on an external drive. When I run out of space, I buy a new one. This would leave my primary HD free of the junk I can’t seem to get rid of.
I am not a pro. Just an amateur. I have decades of photos and videos from family and personal work and am looking at starting a pretty specific YT channel so I expect to gather more files in the coming months and years.
I hear you. I have about 60 TBs of data/footage. I move everything over to my NAS once I’m done with a project.
File management is really boring, but oh so necessary.
Appreciate you stopping by.
You should check out the Satechi hub...they’re designed specifically for the Mac Mini. Just ordered one for my new M1 Mac Mini...16g 256g SSD. I got a 500g external drive but it’s not a SSD...don’t really need to spend the extra cash on a SSD just for extra storage for music, pics and docs.
Who said I might not have picked one of those up?🤔😉
Ha! Yes, in my research I did come across that. It’s actually been in and out of stock online, but I agree. A great little setup for sure.
I loved having the ability to add an SSD in my EGPU for my MBP and just edit from that if I needed to.
Appreciate the recommendation, and I agree. A great little piece of tech that I hope to be testing and talking about here. 😀
Congrats on the mini! Let me know what you think when it you get some time with it.
Will do...don’t get it until the end of the month. High demand right now I guess.
Definitely high demand, especially if you bump any of the specs. Excited for you though.
Aye I actually want to know what kind of Microphone his using?
It’s a Deity shotgun mic. It’s linked in the description.👍😉
@@KevinRossRN does that mic also works connecting to a ps4 console?
It’s an XLR mic, so not without an audio interface.
I actually never thought about opening the files on the external drive possibly slowing down productivity. Possibly with photoshop work it doesn’t make as much of a difference vs video. But you have me rethinking it. I always used an external hd to save my files for two reasons. 1. My macbook pro only had a dreadful 128. 2. If the drive fails or I get a new computer all my files are saved on the external. So I always just opened files from external and edited. I wonder if I should be dragging them to the hd to edit and then dragging them back. I am working with psds, pngs, and vectors. I actually realized I don’t even have an ssd just a regular samsung external hd. So I will purchase one through your link. Thanks again, I love your videos.
Yeah the 128GB is a dreadful thing, and I'm glad to see that being eliminated from the lineup. Even for someone who doesn't edit, I still think it's not enough unless you literally have most everything in the cloud.
As far as the bottleneck, you may experience some of that. I've edited on these drives for years (as I mentioned), and it was mostly because I'm working with very large files, but I can also keep several projects on these drives, and move between them very easily. I also like the fact that these video editors allow for editing (entirely) on these drives. During cutting, correcting and render, that FCP bundle can get as big as 300-400GB's for some of the projects I'm working on, and these aren't that intricate either.
Moving your files back and forth is certainly an option. One thing I do as well however is that I make sure to take the files on the SSD and put them on my server when everything is done...as my actual back up solution, but I do always have old files lingering on these SSDs that I refer back to.
Which year is your MBP?
@@KevinRossRN 2014, and was working for my needs all the way up till a couple mths ago. It started to get sluggish. I don’t know if the hard drive is failing or what. But I kept just waiting for the m1s to come out. Now it is extremely frustrating to get any work done. I finally got my tracking number for my mac mini. Coming from China, delivery date dec 9. It’s going to be a dramatic change in performance for sure.
Oh yes!! Keep in mind, everything that I use it for (the apps/software) seems to all work really well, even the ones that need Rosetta. They’re tough machines, but I know there’s going to be quite a few updates pushed out to make them better.
It’ll definitely blow that MBP out of the water as far as performance, but with patience I think you’ll find the little “experiments” with certain apps are getting worked out. Adobe being one of them. 😀
I’m running Photoshop and Lightroom just fine though.
@@KevinRossRN great to know! Can’t wait.
I’m sure we’ll be chatting more here, but definitely keep me posted when you get it.
Some comments i read on the sandisk one was it was failing on people and they were losing files. What are your thoughts? I plan to get the m1x mbp about to launch so I want a decent portable drive that won’t break the bank.
Let’s just say that any SSD can certainly fail and backing up your files regularly is recommended, however I will also say that I use the SanDisk SSD all the time. You even used it today on a project and so far it’s been great.
Western Digital makes the drives inside of those enclosures. I also use several DIY NVMe thunderbolt 3 and thunderbolt 4 enclosures.
i like your channel, my english is so bad but your articulation is great for me to understan this video
That’s awesome. Glad to help, and so glad to have you here.
Great video mate! A-roll frame is clean!!
Thanks! Trying to keep it clean around here 😉 😀
Hi, can you tell me what's the wallet that appear on the picture of this video ?
It’s actually a wallet that was made by someone in Texas. Got it off Etsy.
Totally Agree! So happy with the M1 Mini with 16 GB of RAM, thanks to you. Coupled with 500GM HD. Thought I'd share for your new viewers. Kevin finally laid down the 129 for the SanDisk EXTreme SSD 1 TB! Funny story, I bought the SanDisk for my son for Xmas. After talking to him before the holiday, He told me he has A SD SSD Extreme. So I kept it and bought him a weather vane monitor system for his house. It was a Win Win! Happy New Year my friend!
Ha! That is funny, and glad to hear that it all worked out. And that’s a great price on that SanDisk. Really hard to beat for the price, honestly.
Great to see you again. Happy New Year to you as well.
I bought the based mode to use it for a while then reseller as my country is 6 to 1 USD. I'll buy the 16gb model next year. My first Mac so I'm hyped for it to arrive. I'm gonna be learning video editing to get into it as I already do film Photography
It’ll provide you with a fantastic start. Feel free to pop back over and let me know what you think.
Hey Kevin, as someone that keeps nothing but barebones apps but will be recording 4k Vids around 10-15 minutes for youtube, would you recommend 256SSD or 512SSD for internal then get a external SSD in either case? Will that 256 vs 512 affect longevity? Thanks!
The one thing I like about the extra internal is just to have the option to be able to temporarily move files from an external to the internal if needed, but that’s usually something that may happen occasionally. Sometimes I have multiple projects going at once and although I have about 4 or 5 SSDs I still like having another option.
As far as longevity, you’ll be fine with 256, but the question I always have is can you afford the extra now and how upset would you be if you didn’t have it later?
@@KevinRossRN Thanks so much Kevin, I went with the 512GB just to be sure, if I want to use it for light gaming or something down the line I won't feel limited and for editing it's great so I can edit on the drive then transfer. I figure a couple hundred dollars for 5+ years of peace is definitely worth it.
I think that’s a great choice my friend, especially if you do want to play some games on there, which some of them can be run on an external, but often times it just helps having that extra space. 😉
Hi, Kevin. It is a great content. I find your video is really tech savvy and smart. I really want to watch all of it, as compare to other videos I watched this is more detailed and professional. Also, a bit of personal preferences, if the video can have separate segments to divide your content to different talking points, it will be much easier to get your valuable points quicker. This is a great work. Just want to offer a little suggestion for people who may not that good at tech.
Thanks. I’ve added more time stamps in more recent videos, usually those that are over 10 minutes long or those that have a clear delineation.
Appreciate the feedback and glad you’re here.
outstanding vid! BUT I'm still on the fence, since ill be mainly using the ssd for video editing as well and don't care much abt file transfer rates, should I just get the T5 over the T7 then? theyd probably have the same render performance right?
I like the Sandisk better but didnt know it gets almost twice the operating temp of the Samsung! which would u recommend among the four? T5, T7, Extreme Pro v1, v2 (1gbps)
Thanks! Are you working off of an M1? The only reason I ask is that Read and write drop to about 300-400 on the T5, which I think you’d be fine.
I did an updated video last week??? I think it was last week.
But I shared info on the SanDisk and compared it to some DIY enclosures for video.
@@KevinRossRN yes off the m1 imac. ill check that video out then! you mentioned in this video that performance drops to about 120 (?) when video editing - curious if thatd be different among the 4 ssds
Yeah, so the T5 would be able to handle that just fine, but one of the things I need to cover in an upcoming video is not just export times, but also working through the timeline and playing back smoothly, which again, these externals will do just fine.
However I’d be interested to see what you think of a DIY option.
@@KevinRossRN awesome. those are actually the only things im curious about - the timeline & playback performance, and operation temp of the drives. will wait for your video on them before i purchase! if you could do the T5, T7, ExtremePro v1, v2 drives, that would be really great Kev! cheers
Great Video Brother! Keep it up. 💪
Thanks my man. Appreciate you 👊💥
@@KevinRossRN Yeah Bro. Appreciate the Friendship. 👊
Back at you brother 👊
Hey there, great video thank you! So should I prefer choosing the Mac with 512 SSD plus an external SSD over the inbuilt 1Tb SSD? Is it faster as well although the SSD is external? Thank you very much!
The internal will be faster, however even though I have 1TB, I still edit on an external for just about every video. I’d say get as much as you can afford. It’s nice to have the internal space when you need it, but for video editing, it’s nice to have that scratch disk and a place to keep your project, and then when done, move it over to a back up.
The internal should last for years, but with video editing there’s just a constant read/write happening that pushes those drives a little harder.
@@KevinRossRN ah ok thank you very much for the quick response
You bet 👊🤙
which of the ssd gets hot while being used?
You mean between these two?
Great job with all your videos!!! I was wondering what were your thoughts on the AGPTEK USB-c Docking HDD enclosure?
I'm actually in the process of reviewing a similar setup. It seems like a good piece of tech, but I'd like to test the speeds on that hard drive enclosure.
@@KevinRossRN cool thanks!!!
You bet. 👍
Really useful Information ---> Thank You Kevin.
Just a thought,
you obviously put a lot of thought into your RUclips Content,
Have you thought about adding Chapters to your RUclipss,
quite easy to do if you already have a list of Chapters that you can Copy-Paste,
then you just have to add times at the beginning of each Chapter and RUclips does the rest.
ie: Sandisk SSD, add a time to the start --- ie: 04:27 - Sandisk SSD
RUclips auto turns the 04:27 into a Hyperlink,
and the Timeline of the Video shows the Chapter names.
Thanks again
Thanks. Yes, for some videos I do put time stamps in. Not all, but some I do... like my gaming test. For those interested in World of Warcraft, and then those that are interested in Tomb Raider.
It just depends on how I break up the content. Some videos are easier than others to add time stamps to.
Do you have any videos on how to set up external ssd for gaming on the new mini mac
In my latest video there’s a section (time stamped) about gaming, and setting it up on steam, however I’m in the middle of testing a full gaming walkthrough.
Thank you for using the metric system!
Ha! Well I try. I’m a healthcare provider so I live in the metric system professionally, however living in the US I tend to get pulled back every now and again 😉
You shouldn't tell people to pay for 16GB RAM, I haven't seen any clear evidence of performance difference between the 8GB and the 16GB M1 devices, only difference may be in terms of emulation through Rosetta or perhaps when multi tasking (browsing on a bunch of websites) while rendering a video. There is a new Sandisk SSD Extreme Pro New Generation that is 2000MB/s and I saw a video someone shows it rendering even faster on that than with the internal SSD upgrade. Really, it is my understanding, that people should just choose the entry level 8/256GB and choose the Air not the Pro.
Appreciate you weighing in here, and I appreciate your perspective. Now, I believe I've said to get what you can afford, and to put any bump in spec toward the RAM, which I did state that this is where folks should put that investment first. As far as workflow this doesn't come down to a benchmark app, but rather as you state a real world use case.
When rendering a video I would expect that a creator will also have Photoshop or Lightroom open working on their thumbnail for RUclips while the render is occurring, while also have some browser tabs open for research or typing out notes in Google Docs, and doing keyword research (if they are indeed posting on RUclips), and likely a few other tasks that may need that RAM. I remember having to shut everything down but my NLE during render so that I could give it as much RAM, CPU, and GPU runway so that I could just get these projects to render. That's definitely no fun.
Yes, these chips are extremely optimized and even Rosetta has been a lifesaver for most of the apps that aren't optimized. The concept of the architecture isn't new, but it is having us think differently about CPU, GPU and utilization of RAM vs the x86 architecture.
The base models are very capable and I have quite a few creator friends that are doing just fine. I also have creators I'm in touch with that are benchmarking these against their i9's and dedicated graphics cards. Some on YT, some aren't. But, there are some scenarios we're seeing where the RAM is being utilized whether for development, video editing, or audio...and there are multiple programs/tasks running as you would expect on any machine anyone would be using. But again, I agree that the base model is just fine and will perform quite well, but as this architecture evolves so will the programs that we run on it. Efficiency will be a priority, I'm certain, but we will start seeing more demands on these chips being places...as we ask more of them to do for us.
This certainly is about making folks feel bad about a base model investment. If it's what you can afford and gets the job done for you then I'm all for the tool that gets you to where you need to be. For creators that are looking at these machines and comparing them to their iMacs, Mac Pro, or their 16" MBP I certainly don't recommend leaving those behind, but those tests they're running have been a bit more surprising with 8GB vs 16GB. I'm not saying we're going to be able to future proof these things for the next 5+ years necessarily and I understand the law of diminishing returns, but the evolution of the architecture and those demands will likely put some folks in the camp of wishing for more RAM.
As far as the next gen external drive, I plan on building (assembling) one and popping in an NVMe setup in it for my own testing to see where, if any, bottleneck exists.
Appreciate you weighing in here. I always welcome differing opinions. What do you currently use if I may I ask?
@@KevinRossRN I currently use my Intel Xeon + Nvidia GTX1080 in the Shadow.tech cloud (at $15/month) for all my 4K60 video editing, over the past 18 months or so. Before that I would edit 4K30 on wevideo in the cloud for about 18 months, and before that I did all my 1080p video editing directly on RUclips Editor (which has since been discontinued). Sure I am not to be considered pro video editor, but I have published about 3000+ videos in 4K on my RUclips channel, most videos I actually don't need to edit, I mostly just film all in one shot. But there are 20% of my videos or so which I do need to edit, quick trim, join some clips on a basic timeline mostly, sometimes recently I also multi camera edit 2 videos at 4K60 onto a 4K60 timeline, so I need auto clip sync and easy pushing 1 or 2 on the keyboard to select camera angle in the edit. Render out quickly is useful too. I actually think the entry level M1 Mini or M1 Air outperforms my $2000-equivalent Xeon+GTX1080 setup in the cloud. But I still only pay $15/month so I cannot justify investing $700-1000 for an M1 Mac. Though I really really want it, and doing that also get onto using something like Davinci Resolve and try if I can upgrade my content to 4K 10bit 4:2:2, publish HLG content, but my Panasonic G9 would only be able to do that in 4K30 so I would only do that if I somehow upgrade to another camera, the A7Siii is way too expensive and has worse IBIS than my G9, but maybe Panasonic comes with a G10/GH6 shortly. Here in Europe the prices are also about 35% higher than in the USA (thanks a lot Apple!)
I have been talking about Arm powered laptops for over 10 years on my RUclips, I filmed hundreds of them. And my website is called armdevices, so in my understanding of how those Arm platforms are done, is that they have nothing to do with x86. The RAM can be used totally differently. By Arm chips on Android and iOS and their OS have been totally designed differently the way multi tasking works, the bottleneck I think can only really happen if you use 2 or more apps simultaneously that absolutely need RAM and can't manage with SSD Swap. If currently you put the video render as a background task while you open your web browser or edit the thumbnail, it's possible that Big Sur slows down your rendering session because it downgrades the importance of that video render using RAM, but I think that is likely a little mistake they can easily optimize in the months to come. Stuff like video rendering, even when places as a "background app" should always have prioritized access to the fast RAM. Anything other you might do, would probably perform just fine on second grade Swap memory to SSD, even if you are web browsing complicated websites, it needs much less imperative RAM access, so I think in the months to come, for sure, the optimizations will only mean that less RAM will only work even better.
The only risk for the RAM is for Apple to be truely evil and somehow they might decide to "down throttle low RAM or old devices" over time, just as there has been admitted evidence of Apple doing with iPhones over the past decade, they justified it being to save on battery usage as the unreplaceable batteries get worse. Apple might purposefully slow down 8GB RAM devices in like 6 months, then prioritizing the experience for 16GB RAM users, but I actually kind of doubt they would do that.
What I think is more likely to happen is that Apple will release more entry level devices still, I think a 8GB/128GB entry level laptop and Mini is possible at about further $200 lower price or so. The hardware of a Macbook Air costs more or less the same as an iPad, not much more actually. So if Apple can sell iPads at $499 they can offer some cheaper Laptop too. They might not make the cheaper one as "metallic" as the Air/Pro, it might be something a bit smaller and thinner. So when they do that, they can't be making those more mass market devices slow down overtime.
I think surely as more and more apps get M1 native optimized, the performance with 8GB RAM is only going to keep getting better. Even Apple's first party apps Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Garageband, etc will only get even better, maybe 20-30% better with further M1 optimizations over the months to come. I also think Adobe, Google Chrome, Microsoft Office and others will keep optimizing so the experience on 8GB RAM I think will only keep getting better.
You on and I are on the same page. I hear you on all fronts.
I think that’s the thing we’re not certain about with Apple’s SoC and their software. With every iteration of the MacOS updates, we seemed to experience slow downs one way or another. It’s definitely evident in their handsets, but I’ve only been using iPhone since April.
Maybe Apple will bring better software and hardware efficiency because it’s their chipset.
For the creators on RUclips, and maybe I’ll just speak for myself, this is just one of the business endeavors I’m involved in. Testing and reviewing, giving my thoughts. When the next iteration comes out, yes, I will get it and compare the two.
But for most I just want to make sure they get a little more longevity out of their setups because I know that those watching videos on the updated M1X or whatever they call it, are those that waited and are curious about finally upgrading. Whereas I also hope I can report back to those that have the M1 that they’re fine having made the investment they made today, and there’s no reason that M1 is obsolete...hopefully that makes sense.
Anyway, it’s still been fun working with these machines. Feel free to keep me in the loop on what you end up deciding, if the M1 or next iteration is in your future 😉
@@KevinRossRN I hope they do M1 at 8GB/128GB at $499 for Mini or $799 for Air, then that's what I would go for. And with the 1TB or 2TB Sandisk Extreme Pro New Generation at 2000MB/s external SSD. Still waiting a bit I bet maybe Apple decides to release those after Christmas or so. So basically, just only use internal SSD for app installation data, and all rushes and output the renderings to the external SSD only, and backup rushes+edits to an external HDD and the cloud. But I would also just simply stick to my Arm powered Chromebooks and Arm Powered Windows 10 laptops as soon as Google/Microsoft and Qualcomm simply announce to support video editing apps for 4K60 video editing on those, I am sure those other Arm processors also have realtime+ hardware acceleration for 4K60 encoding/decoding in themselves, even with many codecs supported, so I expect sometime in 2021 to also see good 4K60 video editing on those cheaper Arm powered laptops and mini PC desktops too, at half the price or lower than current M1 Air. In my opinion $1000 for an Arm powered laptop is way overpriced. I understand though the M1 is a beast and it's awesome, I do not expect Apple to already bring an M1X or successor that soon, more likely I think any Mac Pro/iMac might "simply" run 2 or 4 of the M1 processors and work them in parallel to render out videos 2x to 4x faster.
Yeah, that’s a good assessment on those “higher end” Macs.
The interesting thing will be how they deal with cutting into their iPad sales with the MacBook Air being so capable, and having a keyboard and really good display.
I’m still using my iPad Air, but I’ve seen a lot of folks transitioning over to the MBA as a replacement.
Exciting times for the consumer (creator or not).
This was great!
Thanks so much.
This channel is underrated!!!
Well at least I’m not overrated 😂
Thanks so much. I appreciate you hanging out with us here.
Is there any way to dual boot Mac
Yes, but for the M1, I don't believe this is advisable (right now) as Big Sur is what's optimized for this chipset.
Nice video! Very informative. Thank you
Very glad it helped.
Very informative Kevin. I’m intending to purchase a M1 in a few months and yet I buy my house. I want to start backing up old files from PC. If I back it all up now from PC , will it need to be reformatted when I move to Mac ?
If you use the exFAT file format, then it'll "communicate" with both Windows and Mac. I would say though that SSDs are nice, very fast, but for a longer term back up solution, you could also consider a hard disk drive system. Much cheaper, however for a working external drive SSDs are the way to go.
@@KevinRossRN , Thankyou T7 arriving Friday
Awesome. And I’d just go straight to erasing/formatting that drive. It has this security app on it and if you install it, it can then make it harder to format. You just want the drive to work and I assume you may not need any extra security protocols.
Great Videos! I have enjoyed the series, I am still looking for external storage for my Mac Studio. Have you looked at the Trebleet - Super Thunderbolt 3 Dock for Mac Studio&Mac Mini, Dock Station with NVMe/SATA Slot? Its 299, but could be a good deal for what I need. Company seems legit and has replied to my questions and hasn't tried to hide the poor external speed issue on the M1 system. I need this to serve my mac and new iPad Pro.
Thanks! I don’t have direct experience with the Trebleet, but do know about the company. I’ve been meaning to review some of their hardware.
Are you looking more as an archiving solution or would like to primarily work off of the SSD?
@@KevinRossRN I'm looking for a lot, and trying to invest wisely for future proofing. Mostly I need a work drive, but also need a hub for various legacy items like drives, an audio interface, piano. The CFexpress card reader would come in handy eventually as well as the extra SDXC card slot would come in handy, I have a 250GB card I already use on my 2013 MacBook Pro. Trebleet would give me the ability to add 2TB of SSD and a SATA Drive. While I already have a few 4TB external hard drives, which I have had issues with due to a cheap usb hub. I want to use the Trebleet SSD for a work Drive and use the SATA for Time Machine. I am hesitant due to the price, but its not that bad of a deal for all its offering.
Gotcha. Well as far as the price, it’s pretty much in line with most Thunderbolt docks I’ve used or my colleagues have invested in. A good hub/dock should return in the investment of time and of course the ability to scale up, which you’d be able to do with your current/future peripherals.
I’d have to look into the actual specs of this Trebleet dock as I assume that you might be giving up a TB port or two if it’s giving you the option of housing a SSD or SATA drive.
@@KevinRossRN wanted to say I got that trebleet dock and it’s rocking it in speed. Already getting a bigger SSD stick for it, I made the mistake of saving a hundred bucks and only getting 1tb. That would suit me for a work drive at this time but I ended up really needing an SSD for my Apple Photos(cloud works but drives me insane on loading videos).
The dock does a great job of tying together all my little external drives. I bought an Akasis enclosure for the 1tb stick. Using Samsung 980 pro, recommended by trebleet. I paid more than I wanted but consider it a better purchase due to the ability to upgrade easily. I mean I’m already switching out sticks and it’s not even been a month.
I posted a response on one of your latest videos but felt it would be more relevant to comment back on this discussion.
Thanks again for the great videos they helped me in the right direction. I was a pro audio guy, but video is another animal.
And I’m glad you also posted here. Always appreciate when folks pop back over for updates. It helps the community.
I’m thankful for your time here.
Thx for all your effort you put into making these useful videos! One question: what does your workflow look like when using the external ssd‘s? Plugging in the SD card and copying it onto the mac and then to the external SSD or copying the content of the SD card directly to the external SSD?
So using a hub, just plugging in the SD card to the computer (via the hub), then moving files from the SD to the SSD...I really need to do a video on this. I get asked this all the time, so I better answer the community with a step by step 😀
I was wondering the EXACT same thing! LoL. I’m coming across this vid nearly a year later so if you’re made a vid answering this PLEASE drop a link. Also wondering if an SSD would work as seamlessly if editing on an m1 iPad Pro? 🤔🤔🤔
Yes, I have a video for both. My workflow, and editing on an external SSD in LumaFusion on the M1 iPadPro…I can grab those links.
I got my son an iMac M1 8 gigs. He down loaded photo shop, premier pro and adobe illustrator and now he has no memory to actually run it. What do you recommend as an external drive ? He’s a greasy man and I sign him up for 1 week class … let me know
You mean an external drive other than what I recommended in the video?
And when you say he doesn’t have memory, is it RAM you’re talking about or storage space?
@@KevinRossRN I meant external drive. I saw another video of yours to familiar myself with memory / ram. I ended up getting ssd scan drive 1 tb, lt was on sale for $109 at Best Buy. I’m not computer savvy , but your videos are very helpful.
Awesome. And that SanDisk should be fantastic. Best of luck.
Off topic but what are the dimensions of the table?
The table behind me?
@@KevinRossRN yeah the table that you have your setup on
So I did a video on the setup here: ruclips.net/video/z6KbLznmAZI/видео.html
It's not really a table so much as it is kitchen cabinets. 98 inches (~249cm) in length and about 26 inches (~66cm) deep. It's one of the best things I did for the studio.
Very informative! Very pofesional! Thank you so much.
My pleasure, friend. Glad you’re here.
Great video! Just what I needed to hear as I’m going to buy the m1 Mac mini 16gb ram 256gb ssd. I’m not sure if you use Logic Pro x but I’m planning on using an external ssd to store Logic Pro’s sound library on and other 3rd party virtual instrument libraries. Would you recommend the Sandisk extreme for this sort of stuff or do you think the T5 would be sufficient? Thanks for the great advice! Peace ✌🏼
I do use Logic and storing the library on the T5 would be fine. The SanDisk has about twice the read and write, but that’s really just theoretical and you should be fine.
@@KevinRossRN thanks so much just what i needed to hear and can’t wait to start using this new mac. Still rocking a late 2013 so should notice a big difference haha!
Oh, you’ll notice a difference for sure. You can count on it 😉🤙
@@KevinRossRN can’t wait! Thanks again for the great videos and advice! By far the most helpful 👍🏻
Just glad to be here, and glad to have you here. 👊🤙
This is great advice, and that saves lots of unnecessary expense. External Drives, and even FREE cloud storage on sites like DropBox, and Box, help people on tight budges. Great video! Thanks for such practical tips!
Glad to have you here. Happy that it helped.
Awesome Video! Super informative and answered most questions I had about external drives. I do need a suggestion from you if you don’t mind. Im thinking of purchasing M1MBP with 16gb and 1TB just because I had budgeted for the 16” i9 MBP, but im wondering if it’s overkill for the work I’ll be doing, which is Photo-Editing, Video-Editing and just casual business work; emails, conference calls, etc...
Would 8gb RAM and 512gb SSD manage? In just starting my business so I don’t know how much work I’ll have because of the clientele.
Not sure what apps you’re using for photo editing, but what I can say is that photoshop and Lightroom are definitely hungry for that RAM. How long do you plan to keep the machine?
@@KevinRossRN currently I am using photoshop and Lightroom heavily. I plan on upgrading to Final Cut Pro for video Editing from my current software.
And honestly probably till it dies on me, this is gonna be my 1st Mac so we’ll see how well it does. I’ve been using a super slow desktop for everything so far, but I want something faster and more portable because I am always on the go to different shoots.
It’s been debated heavily among my circles.
If you want this to be a better investment for the longer term, 16 it is my friend.
@@KevinRossRN Thank you so much! 🙏As as for the storage space, would you recommend 512gb and save 200$ and get the SanDisk 2tb 1050mb/s?
I have a 1TB setup on the mini and 256 on the MacBook Air...I still use an external SSD for both. Just sayin’
Can I use these drives with Time Machine to back up my MacBook?
Indeed you can. It’s what I use.
@@KevinRossRN thanks
You got it
Thanks!
Right back at you. Appreciate your time. 🤙
which one should I buy for m1 ..t5 or t7..??
What are you mostly using them for and how big is the price difference where you are?
@@KevinRossRN I am an editor.. Beginner Level and the price is 75$ for T5 - 500 gb and 100$ for t7 - 500 gb
Well I would say that you’d likely not really notice a big real world difference, however the T7 will (typically) have a faster transfer rate of larger files from your internal drive to the external drive.
@@KevinRossRN Okay.. But I heard that T7 had some issues with detection on Mac m1.. Is it true..???
There is a piece of software on the T7 that sometimes can cause issues…it’s security related.
If you get it. Once you connect it, open up disk utility and format it before you do anything else. It’ll erase that software that you don’t need.
You are so right about the 8 gb of ram verses 16. I have a Macbook pro 2013 (upgraded to 16g of ram 512) and it is kicking my iMac 2015 tail (8g Ran 1TB).. thank you for the knowledge.
You got it 👍
Thank you for the time you spent here. 🤘