The Battle of Ongal 680 AD

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  • @pedroair28
    @pedroair28 4 года назад +845

    So this is how Bulgaria was born. Eastern history is not something really covered in latin america, but im glad to have found out about it now. Time to do some extra reading.

    • @user-ow4qc3lc1b
      @user-ow4qc3lc1b 4 года назад +34

      We also want to know your history for it is also not really covered in the old world

    • @kayharker712
      @kayharker712 4 года назад +6

      A waste of time. Instead, if you can find the discipline to conquer your degenerate capitalistic instincts, you may be found worthy enough to live in a perfect futuristic communist society, possibly in Bolivia or Venezuela.

    • @alejandrogorricho4791
      @alejandrogorricho4791 4 года назад +24

      @@kayharker712 Ehm, what?? Im Colombian btw

    • @KaloyanGeorgiev92
      @KaloyanGeorgiev92 4 года назад +52

      In my opinion the battles that happened between Bulgaria and Byzantine in the next 300-500 years are FAR more interesting both from a military, political and ideological point of view. Do check it out - you will like the read, guaranteed! :)

    • @viniciusdomenighi6439
      @viniciusdomenighi6439 4 года назад +15

      A sincere hello from a Brazilian.

  • @frozengrip2609
    @frozengrip2609 4 года назад +745

    Times like these that I have no idea how the Eastern Roman Empire survived for so long.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 года назад +109

      They had big walls, and the arab power petered off after about 800 ad. After that, every enemy they dealt with used the same tactics up until the crusades, and it was the crusaders who captured constantinople for about 60 years in the 13th century. Then the turks arose, and the byzantines finally had to deal with another big empire the likes of the umayaads - in this case, the ottomans, who they couldn't handle. They lost all their territory, but the city held out for (iirc) another several decades until 1453.
      So, it was just the walls - beyond that, nothing particularly special about the romayans/byzantines (or am I mispelling romani? pronunciation sounds like 'romayan' according to 'history of byzantium') aside from being wealthy enough to train troops the way they did, their naval tactics in their own territory, their massive city (though baghdad outdid them at one point; and populations do fluctuate considerably), and the domestic stability that resulted from a culture that would rather murder or mutilate the existing emperor and do a swift regime/dynasty change, then start a civil war over the same.

    • @fibo4108
      @fibo4108 4 года назад +140

      There is a great restorer for every byzantine emperor that fucked up. Eastern Roman history has plenty of those: Makedonian restoration, the Alexiad, Komenos restoration, etc.

    • @derrickbonsell
      @derrickbonsell 4 года назад +43

      Judging by the number of battles they lost versus those they won they should have collapsed in the 700s.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 года назад +9

      @@fibo4108 What else besides those three? Monarchists are quick to label almost any era as a 'restoration', especially when it comes before or after a bumbling or overly tyrannical and hated monarch (the result of a bad dice roll; which every monarchy is susceptible too).

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 года назад +39

      @@derrickbonsell They seemed to pull it together whenever things got dire, up until the crusades. A lot of it had to do with christianity, and some argue, the civic nationalism that continued from roman times, now revived to some extent. If I want to be realistic though, it probably waned in certain periods as well; history is never a still image, especially not when observing over 1100 years of byzantine history.

  • @ekn_38
    @ekn_38 4 года назад +747

    You perfectly pronounced Asparuh, not something I have expected but wholeheartedly welcome

    • @stein9970
      @stein9970 4 года назад +16

      I think its a voive actor hired by the RUclips channel

    • @danboud8135
      @danboud8135 4 года назад +33

      Thank you! It's important to Baz to get this sort of thing right so we work hard to get names as authentic as possible :D

    • @Dartanius100
      @Dartanius100 4 года назад +14

      A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

    • @resileaf9501
      @resileaf9501 4 года назад +14

      They always take care to find the right pronunciation of the people who appear in their videos. They really care about giving an accurate (or as accurate as you can get from so long ago) recount of those ancient battles.

    • @JGreen1
      @JGreen1 4 года назад +3

      Shame he can't also pronounce Umayyad just as correctly.

  • @Lord_Lambert
    @Lord_Lambert 4 года назад +398

    "Gout being the reason for the Emperors retreat is improbable as he was only in his late 20s"
    Emperor: Dies 4 years later from Dysintery.

    • @Nestoras_Zogopoulos
      @Nestoras_Zogopoulos 4 года назад +6

      oi its that eu4 guy

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 4 года назад +80

      Given that he went from growing up in a palace to sitting in a swamp for weeks, I don't doubt the possibility that he became sick during the campaign

    • @resileaf9501
      @resileaf9501 4 года назад +8

      Are gout and dysentery related diseases?

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 4 года назад +27

      @@resileaf9501 no idea about gout, but dysenteria starts when people gather their drinking water too close to the place where other people say goodbye to yesterday's food. Quite common for armies on the move.

    • @jebosamvasjako
      @jebosamvasjako 4 года назад +19

      @@resileaf9501 Nope, gout is an inflamation of the joints when crystals of ureic acid form in the joint when there's too much purine nucleotide metabolism going on, and dysentery is an bacterial disease that's transfered from water which was contaminated by fecal matter. It induces really heavy diarhea where people can lose up to 20 l of water per day resulting in death by lack of water and electrolytes if not treated.

  • @WillyxWilson
    @WillyxWilson 4 года назад +213

    Ah yes, Asparuh used the infamous smiley face defence :)

    • @0d138
      @0d138 4 года назад +15

      It's super effective 😊

    • @AlexanderVRadev
      @AlexanderVRadev 4 года назад +7

      I personally prefer the troll face one offensive. But I guess they are keeping that for the battle against the crusaders. ;)

    •  4 года назад +3

      I think Asparuh was a troll

    • @kpacuBua
      @kpacuBua 4 года назад +4

      A simple spell, but quite unbreakable!

    • @jeffreese1828
      @jeffreese1828 3 года назад

      Works every time !

  • @SerhiiMartyneko
    @SerhiiMartyneko 4 года назад +238

    "Roman Empire was on brink of catastrophe"
    Yeah, right. Like if I've never seen that before. Or after

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 4 года назад +6

      this is what happens when something is on life support. "oh shiet we losing him" "wait wait hes gonna make it" "no no hes a goner" "oh wait he is breathing again" .....

    • @SerhiiMartyneko
      @SerhiiMartyneko 4 года назад +6

      @@nomooon Well, lifesuport means that something from outside purposely helps to sustain life. No-one from the outside was helping to sustain Roman Empire =)
      The way I see it - the empire was simply to big to actually fall apart completely over short period of time. That is why it took 1000 years to completely cease to exist

    • @datboi7893
      @datboi7893 4 года назад +2

      first time?

    • @mowtow90
      @mowtow90 4 года назад +2

      @@SerhiiMartyneko You forgot Egypt. It was the most important provice since the time Augustus. After Egypt fell , the big cities in the ERE had a large reduction in population because they ware re-settled in the county side due to lack of food. The same goes for Syria. When that province fell , one of the biggest gold suppliers for the ERE was gone.
      The ERE was in survival mode after the Justinian plague. It was the biggest devastation the Roman Empire had ever seen and it never fully recovered from it. They had a couple of golden ages after that but it was a downward spiral most of the time.
      The empire suffered from the same problem as the entire RE - horrable leadership (the good empirors ware far between) , constan rebelians and been completly surrounded by enemies who wanted them gone.

    • @skyshatter3633
      @skyshatter3633 3 года назад +4

      "Roman Empire was on brink of catastrophe" summs up the whole Eastern Empire history

  • @heimdallr221
    @heimdallr221 4 года назад +625

    Byzantine formation: professional and robust force field by Constantine in two formidable lines
    Bulgar formation: :)

  • @letitbelight9209
    @letitbelight9209 4 года назад +115

    The same Bulgarians saved the empire from the arabs in 717 while their capital was besieged

    • @aiurea1
      @aiurea1 3 года назад +4

      Tervel and Martel

    • @Michael_the_Drunkard
      @Michael_the_Drunkard 3 года назад +5

      They didn't "save" the empire. Greek Fire took care of that. Tervel only ambushed them during their retreat.

    • @todorminchev2123
      @todorminchev2123 2 года назад +1

      @@Michael_the_Drunkard the arabs were much more prepared for the siege than the Byzantines were, they had supplies that could last for months even years and they were determined to bring the city to its knees.
      If the harrassment of the Arabs troops by Tervel did not occur, the arabs could have the chance to attack the fleets.
      The naval attack only occured because the Byzantines noticed that the arabs were already busy with the Bulgarians so there was an opening.
      If the siege was successful the Byzantine empire could fall and the rest of the eastern balkans was threatened by Arab rule.
      Soo yeah we did some what saved Europe with the help of the wet fire

    • @IvanDimitrov-nu7ih
      @IvanDimitrov-nu7ih 2 года назад +8

      @@Michael_the_Drunkard East Roman Empire was going to fall pretty fast if the Bulgarians didn't show up, according to both Byzantine, arab and west european sources.

    • @yisun-sin5780
      @yisun-sin5780 2 года назад +11

      @@Michael_the_Drunkard Greek fire stopped the Arabs naval reinforcements but the majority of the Arab army was already landed and besieged Constantinople. Its evident from the Arab sources that they were more frightened by the Bulgars. Both Romans and Bulgars shared the victory as ally and I will give 50% for the Bulgars and 50% for the Romans as work being done. An evidence that such an alliance was able to do much much more, had it lasted longer. A joint Bulgaria and Eastern Roman Empire together were able to conquer the world at least to China, had they been more cooperative and clear minded towards each other.

  • @powerforu94
    @powerforu94 4 года назад +236

    Man I've been waiting for 2 years for Bulgarian battles - so happy to finally see one. And considering it's the first one in Bulgarian history, I hope to see more in the future!

    • @mihailnikoloff2554
      @mihailnikoloff2554 4 года назад +9

      Yeah Kings and Generals lied they gon make a video about Bulgaria

    • @talridisblagoev242
      @talridisblagoev242 4 года назад +11

      @@Euro.Patriot not really this bulgarians in the video are asprush you got the wrong brother :D. the so called face Macedonians today are descendants of kuber bulgarians(one of asparuh brothers) that is long story i can write alot about :D.

    • @3dwaffle338
      @3dwaffle338 4 года назад +3

      It's not the first in our history, lel, I went deep into our ethnogenesis and I think a lot of our history should be rewritten- same with much of the history of Europe though.

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 4 года назад +4

      @@3dwaffle338 during the late cretaceous era,a T-Rex and a Triceratops fought a tremendous battle on the plains of what is now known as Bulgaria. So yeah, history does need some rewriting.

    • @3dwaffle338
      @3dwaffle338 4 года назад +1

      @@sjonnieplayfull5859 Yeah, did you know there were also some Aliens here? Like, they were firstly in what is known as modern day Ohio but went here and spread the alcohol that is known as rakia. Look at the two guys on my pfp. These guys are actually aliens that made so they look like homo sapiens. I'm the one behind the dude on the right:
      -"Ni___r, c'mon, spread the non-human drinks"
      -"Stfu mate, can't you see the media likes us, they wanna take pics of us"
      That's basically what we told each other on the pic you can see on my pfp. I'm still alive though. I'm 20 000 years old. I still see black and brown. I envy homo sapiens for seeing colours. People from my planet are like that. Though I still have got abilities you human beings don't. I drink rakia as water! None of you homo sapiens can do so- even the Balkan people! Though I have to say, I also envy you for being able to drink wine. To me it looks so attractive especially if consumed with spaghetti. I cannot consume. It's my bloody alien enzymes! Bloody Hell!

  • @SD-mw7sc
    @SD-mw7sc 4 года назад +85

    ❤️ Bulgaria greetings from Germany!

    • @0d138
      @0d138 4 года назад +4

      Tchüs брат 👍

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 4 года назад +10

      Bulgaria the Prussia of Balkans

    • @nword3508
      @nword3508 4 года назад +5

      Friend and ally in both world wars

    • @nikolaivanov3344
      @nikolaivanov3344 4 года назад

      Thanks guys! Bulgaria stronK!

    • @cengizsogutlu
      @cengizsogutlu 4 года назад

      There is hugeeee difference between today's bulgsrs and bulgars of 8 century

  • @olefredrikskjegstad5972
    @olefredrikskjegstad5972 4 года назад +571

    Yaasss, more Eastern Roman content

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 4 года назад +41

      At this point there was no western roman empire anymore for a long time so they pretty much are The Roman Empire.

    • @Eu2619
      @Eu2619 4 года назад +1

      @@hazzmati let the name be as it was, Eastern Roman Empire. It it a shame for Roman culture and the empire that eastern roman empire became Greek.

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 4 года назад +38

      @@Eu2619 no, the official name was and always has been "Empire of the Romans" in both greek and latin. These are historical facts. And the eastern part always was greek even when when they were conquered by the romans. This never changed. Greek culture was strong and could not be subjugated by the romans.

    • @Eu2619
      @Eu2619 4 года назад +1

      @@hazzmati Greek culture could have been subjugated by the romans, it is only a matter of time (as all the cultures). In sec 7 - 8 ERE had a change in leadership, the ruling class switch from roman to greek language ( in special language yes). A big part of this was because of the church ( church wanted to be different from the west and this is the reason why orthodox church used greek, instead of Latin.)

    • @Eu2619
      @Eu2619 4 года назад +1

      @@hazzmati let the Romans be romans with their latin language, as they truly were. Do not change them, because of their success in having one of the most impressive and successful empires, republics...Do not be like those rulers who wanted to pretend that they are romans just for the " legitimacy" of claiming a territory.

  • @LuigianoMariano
    @LuigianoMariano 4 года назад +106

    Constantine IV: BRB, K?
    *Accidentally hits Resign Button*
    Constantine IV: Wait... NO!!!!
    *You Are Defeated*

    • @sriharshacv7760
      @sriharshacv7760 3 года назад +1

      Yeah. It was kind of silly to lose a fight like that.

  • @Toranaga
    @Toranaga 4 года назад +45

    What? A Bulgarian battle? I am surprised, this is awesome! Thanks!

  • @danieltodorov3863
    @danieltodorov3863 4 года назад +337

    Finally a Bulgarian battle!

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 4 года назад +20

      @mimun e bulgars are turkic but very little intermixing occurred because they were a minority nobility that ruled over the native slavs.

    • @mihailnikoloff2554
      @mihailnikoloff2554 4 года назад +30

      @mimun e Bulgarians are not turkic.

    • @mishkata348
      @mishkata348 4 года назад +25

      @@hazzmati Bulgars were slowly assimilated with the slavs. There were several reforms by bulgarian khans to unite the population.

    • @trashmaster24
      @trashmaster24 4 года назад +11

      @mimun e There is lots of speculation regarding the origin of Bulgarians with some sources even claiming they were descendants of the Thracians

    • @kirokeksa379
      @kirokeksa379 4 года назад +13

      They were not really turkic genetically though, as documented by anthropological tests. probably only culturally, and their culture was still very highly influenced by the iranian (alano-sarmatian) one . For example look at the origin of the name of the Bulgar ruler Asparukh who led the Bulgars at the battle of Ongala en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asparukh_(name)

  • @beoronick9105
    @beoronick9105 4 года назад +48

    Yes! I was waiting for some Bulgarian history to catch the spothlight sooner or later. Great job! Keep up the good work on these videos and you have much love and support from a fan in Bulgaria! (and others hopefully)

  • @starhawck
    @starhawck 4 года назад +39

    Also, the Siege Of Thessaloniki was conducted by Kuber's panonian bulgars, who had rebelled against the avars and tool with them a mixed populations of bulgars, byzantine slaves and slavs. The sons of Kubrat were not 5, that is just a rationale by Theophanes, who combined the journey of Altsek and Kuber, with the disintegration of Old Great Bulgaria. The sons were most likely Asparukh, Boyan/Bezmer/Batbayan and Kotrag. Altsek and Kuber are separate warchiefs, if i am not mistaken. Also, they didn't exactly migrated to the Lower Danube region, they most likely already had connections with those tribes, throught previous raids.
    The borders of the newly formed state were anchored on the Balkan Mountains to the south, the Iskar River and irom gates to the West, Northwest, to the North on the Carpathian mountain range and to the Northeast on the Dnieper and Dniester rivers.

  • @lordpicnic7358
    @lordpicnic7358 4 года назад +211

    This channel goes hand in hand with kings and generals channel

    • @stepanpytlik4021
      @stepanpytlik4021 4 года назад +2

      I am starting to think that too

    • @greatermad8288
      @greatermad8288 4 года назад +1

      Upload on the same day too

    • @LookHereMars
      @LookHereMars 4 года назад +12

      HistoryMarche too 👍

    • @Crytica.
      @Crytica. 4 года назад +8

      Don't forget HistoryMarche!

    • @guilhermecaran3363
      @guilhermecaran3363 4 года назад +22

      They are both great but not in the same level and aproach though. I would put Baz leveled with History Marche, battle focused content. On the other hand there are Invicta and EpicHistoryTV, wich focus on history documentaries. Kings and Generals lies between both sides. There is Historia Civilis too, the father/mother of them all.

  • @cvetomirgeorgiev9106
    @cvetomirgeorgiev9106 4 года назад +23

    Finally some Bulgarian history! Thank you Baz.

  • @user-vh6gw1hr6c
    @user-vh6gw1hr6c 4 года назад +12

    Thank you for sharing the history of my motherland :) I am proud that you took an interest and that more people have now heard about Bulgaria's origins. Talented video and wonderful storytelling. Channels such as yours are better than any history channel on TV!

  • @thefulanichad
    @thefulanichad 4 года назад +33

    What a day , Kings Generals & Baz Battles uploading some stuff the same day .

  • @mariomuawad7815
    @mariomuawad7815 4 года назад +10

    Thank you for covering Bulgarian hitory. It is very rare that some one makes such videos

  • @antonisgiamouzis7261
    @antonisgiamouzis7261 4 года назад +58

    Can make again those focused history videos like mini series. What about the Bulgarian expansion during the 9th century

  • @royriley6282
    @royriley6282 4 года назад +33

    Weekend was feeling incomplete up until now.

  • @re1na451
    @re1na451 4 года назад +17

    Thank you for making a video about Bulgaria.If you search more in our history you will find a lot more interesting battles

  • @ivanpetrov5258
    @ivanpetrov5258 4 года назад +11

    Thanks finaly a battle that I expected for so long

  • @ZeddBG
    @ZeddBG 4 года назад +25

    Great video. I just want to point some minor mistakes on the map. Back then Vidin was called Bononia and Silistra was Durostolon. Under bulgarian rule the names shifted to Bdin and Drastar.

    • @UniverseInsideYou
      @UniverseInsideYou 4 года назад +5

      And one major mistake - Bulgarians are not Turkic people.

    • @Poffean
      @Poffean 4 года назад +3

      @@UniverseInsideYou they were originally, but they slavicized

    • @Bultras12-CA
      @Bultras12-CA Год назад

      @@Poffean You can't say for sure, but definitely quite debatable. The foundations of the 7th and 8th century Bulgar sacred buildings are in the same style and orientation as the Iranic "Zoroastrism". Also there is no source naming Bulgar rulers "khan" or anything similar. The only native title found is CANASUBIGI. Also majority of the pre-christian names are Iranic, (e.g. Asparoikh-aspa=horse in old Iranian). So the newest evidence (including DNA from modern Bulgarians) is that Bulgars have mostly streppe Iranic ancestry, possibly with Turkic intermixing. After all, Bulgars were conquered by the Turkic Khaganate for a long time, before they emancipated and found Old Great Bulgaria. Cheers!

  • @venelinmilanov2233
    @venelinmilanov2233 4 года назад +7

    Great video! I’m Bulgarian and love history. Can’t wait see more videos about Bulgarian history. Thanks

  • @georgivasilev6620
    @georgivasilev6620 4 года назад +6

    Wonderfull video that i was also waiting for so long - one of the many Bulgarian battles. In the following several hundred years there are dozens of battles with Byzantine Empire.
    Thank you and we are waiting for more :)

  • @Nishki-v-Sharkata
    @Nishki-v-Sharkata 4 года назад +3

    The video is 20 seconds in and I am already crying! Thank you BazBattles! Thank you so much! I am a huge fan and long time subscriber and watching a video about my proud ancestors was a dream came true!

  • @danielhalachev4714
    @danielhalachev4714 4 года назад +27

    Do more Bulgarian battles - they are interesting and often end i an unexpected way.

    • @nondvcordvco4244
      @nondvcordvco4244 4 года назад +2

      yes, we win the battles we lose the wars, that sums it up

  • @kaloyan2778
    @kaloyan2778 4 года назад +6

    I'm subscribing in the hopes of more eastern Europe history content. Even though I've learned this in school its very interesting to see it illustrated so well and in detail.

  • @nikoladd
    @nikoladd 4 года назад +28

    You didn't mention it but Old Great Bulgaria was an ally of the Byzantines and protected the empire's north eastern borders. Kubrat studied in Constantinople and was raised in the imperial court before becoming a Khan.
    Underestimating Bulgarian leaders is rather odd excuse since there isn't a single one in 1400 years that hasn't got education in most cases "the best available extensive one". Several of the Bulgarian kings studied together with the Byzantine emperors.. Unlike the many illiterate western European/Russian kings for example.. Further the old Bulgar tradition dictated that weak leaders step down(or be put down), like it was mentioned in the video so there simply weren't weak leaders.

  • @brandonf24
    @brandonf24 4 года назад +155

    Maybe it's just me, but every time I see the Byzantines fail due to their leadership, I cringe.

    • @stevenpaddybwoy
      @stevenpaddybwoy 4 года назад +16

      Same dude. Greeks throughout history fail due to corruption and poor leadership.

    • @Ingulf_The_Mad
      @Ingulf_The_Mad 4 года назад +39

      Not just you. It is horrible to see the last flame of authentic European civilization, of true culture, extinguished under the blows of inferior peoples from every direction

    • @stevenpaddybwoy
      @stevenpaddybwoy 4 года назад +26

      @@Ingulf_The_Mad you think that hurts now wait until western countries turn Islamic through immigration. Truly a disaster to make god weep.

    • @alecsis882
      @alecsis882 4 года назад +2

      I know, its awful

    • @antred11
      @antred11 4 года назад +4

      Not just the Byzantines, Rome (both West And East) in general suffered badly from incompetent, greedy, glory-seeking or otherwise unsuitable leaders and lost many battles that they really should have won.

  • @BazBattles
    @BazBattles  4 года назад +75

    Support my channel and download Rise of Kingdoms for free: patron.me/bazbattles

    • @tylerb9877
      @tylerb9877 4 года назад +4

      Evolution is a lie.

    • @franciscomm7675
      @franciscomm7675 4 года назад +1

      May i reccomend the battle of alcacer quibir (1578)? Which led to the iberian union

    • @panagiotisagelakis533
      @panagiotisagelakis533 4 года назад +2

      great work i always perk up when a video of You or king and generals or historia civilis comes up

    • @gotmog6854
      @gotmog6854 4 года назад +2

      Please do more Bulgaria.Theire history is pretty impresive

    • @radualdea8981
      @radualdea8981 4 года назад

      More Game of thrones content, continue with the War of five kings

  • @ivandundalov7123
    @ivandundalov7123 4 года назад +12

    Bulgarian and Byzantine history is really interesting.

  • @Spartan_N7
    @Spartan_N7 4 года назад +1

    This is amazingly done! Thank you for putting it out here on YT!

  • @djambazkere
    @djambazkere 4 года назад +42

    As a Bulgarian myself I'd love to see more Bulgar-orientated content ❤️

    • @AlexanderVRadev
      @AlexanderVRadev 4 года назад +2

      @mr_ anheuser "It does kinda suck that your success came at the detriment of the glorious Roman Empire though" - you are kidding right? The Western Roman empire at this time is all but gone. The Eastern Roman empire is barely holding on after centuries of decay. The "glorious Roman Empire" has not existed for hundreds of years before the Bulgarians got to the Balkans.

    • @kirokeksa379
      @kirokeksa379 4 года назад +2

      @mr_ anheuser it is sad that we were one of the factors that brought down this great civilization but that is simply how history works. We were the first slavic cultural hub and to large extend the entity that brought the foundations of the slavic orthodox culture.

    • @Galloglaoch
      @Galloglaoch 4 года назад +4

      @mr_ anheuser It's a bit ridiculous to claim the Eastern Roman Empire destroyed the Bulgarian empire when Bulgaria still exists while the Eastern Roman Empire doesn't. I get what you mean, they managed to cobquer it once for a reasonably long time but fact is they failed at assimilating their enemies which in turn led to a rebelion and the revival of their old enemy(The Second Bulgarian Kingdom/Tsardom). So...if anything the Eastern Empire failed spectacularly in dealing with Bulgaria troughout its history. They failed to stop the creation of the state, they failed do exert dominance over it, they failed to assimilate its people and its tradition and for a large chunk of hsitory failed to maintain independance from Bulgarian politics. They didn't manage to conquer the Bulgarian state for such a long period that the state went from a paganist union of slavic tribes and bulgar to a united christian nation wich a chrisitan church rivaling Constantinople. Here I make the note that depending on the side of history you stay on you can either say the eastern empire fialed in those cases or that the Bulgarian state failed in conquering and dominating a dying state on multiple occaisons, failed to conqeyr a city that has basicaly been the goal of every bulgarian ruler(Constantinople), failed to take the orthodox church mantle from a hated state, failed to united orthodox slavs under its banner in order to rival and overcome Constantinople and etc. In my opinion the whole ordeal is an interesting tale of two forces clashing with eachother with neither really getting the upper hand for long enough to end the struggle which in the end concludes with mutual destruction and fall under the boot of the Ottomans, with the caviar of Bulgaria eventually reviving it's existance for e thrid time while what was left from the once great Roman empire fell with Constantinople.
      Also as much as Bulgaria's rise eventually assured the end of the Eastern Empire down the line you can't blame it as a cultural dissaster and one at fault for the end of a great hub of culture. As much as the Bulgarian state assured the end of one grat culture it also created another great culture which is still a big part in todays worlds - the so called slavic culture. Slavic alphabet(the so called Cyrillic, realistically Bulgarian alphabet), Salvic church, salvic noble titles perhams the whole ceremonial, clothing and much more has it's widespread beggining with Bulgaria's rise. We wouldn't have Russian and the whole eastern slav culture if Asparuh didn't manage to create a state where he did. The second most widespread alphabet in Europe(among top in worlds but I doubt its in the top 3 because....china has a lot of people and so does the arabic world) is Bulgarian. The Bulgarian state broke the Eastern Roman hegemony in the balkans which enabled the development of other countries that still exist today. So just as everything in the world the loss of something(the culture of the Eastern Roman Empire) lead to the birth of something else.

    • @jeanaspirateur2808
      @jeanaspirateur2808 4 года назад +2

      @mr_ anheuser Well, the Bulgarians may have been opposed to the Byantine Empire first, but they played a decisive role at the 717 Siege of Constantinople, so you can't blame them for weakening the Byzantines

    • @NikeBG
      @NikeBG 4 года назад +1

      @mr_ anheuser Wait, so you first complain that Bulgaria appeared to the detriment of the glorious Roman Empire. Then you say that this very same glorious Roman Empire destroyed its enemies, including the Bulgarian Empire, and they *won*. So what was your initial complain about? If it's about this particular temporary setback shown in the video, then perhaps we should mention the role of Asparuh's son, Tervel, in restoring Constantine's son, Justinian II, to the throne in Constantinople, as well as (especially) the Bulgar help during the second Arab siege of Constantinople. It certainly wasn't all detrimental, even if that's how the relations between the two empires are generally portrayed nowadays.

  • @goblinnocturno4050
    @goblinnocturno4050 4 года назад +30

    I'm a simple man, I see a BazBattles video, I click on it.

  • @ramiromen6595
    @ramiromen6595 4 года назад +1

    Man I love your work. You are the only channel that shows us these somewhat unknown battles.

  • @tazzz1783
    @tazzz1783 3 года назад +3

    Asparuh is chilling in his castle, smoking some special sorts of gras, drinking...when the messenger comes in and say to him:
    - The byzantion army is near us!
    - How big?
    - 120 000...
    - Damn...where we going to bury them?

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 4 года назад +19

    What really got me was teh closing comments - the Bulgars, a kingdom that most outside Eastern Europe have not heard of, lasted HUNDREDS of years. Yet most countries of today are barely several hundred years old themselves, as they currently exist. Really makes you think.

    • @0d138
      @0d138 4 года назад +6

      1300 years of history and counting 😎 (not all of it good, obviously...)

    • @NikeBG
      @NikeBG 4 года назад +2

      @@0d138 Though for half of those 1300 years we didn't have an independent state. On the other hand - not one, but two medieval Bulgarian empires (not even counting the other off-shoots, like the Volga Bulgars) and now living in the third Bulgarian state. Not bad, not bad at all, I'd say...

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 4 года назад +2

      Everybody knows Bulgaria the Prussia of Balkans....

    • @zarni000
      @zarni000 4 года назад +4

      It's technically the oldest country of Europe (to maintain the same name).

  • @Deathskull0001
    @Deathskull0001 4 года назад +7

    Great video! Additionally, the Roman army was pursued by Bulgarian cavalry all the way to the coast with many of them being butchered. It was a HORRIBLE loss of manpower and prestige for Byzantium.

  • @markokrstic3164
    @markokrstic3164 4 года назад +62

    Byzantium content is my favorite , they have so interesting history.

    • @user-zm3lf7qw5o
      @user-zm3lf7qw5o 4 года назад +2

      This is bulgarian content

    • @aksmex2576
      @aksmex2576 4 года назад +2

      Bazbattle content is interesting, no matter who they make it on.

    • @ijmillares9005
      @ijmillares9005 4 года назад +1

      Yeah especially their high hp buildings

    • @dagalealtd4888
      @dagalealtd4888 4 года назад +2

      Their "lamellar" armor is heavenly!

    • @lastmanstanding5423
      @lastmanstanding5423 4 года назад +5

      Damn right...
      up the Constantinople...!
      down with Istanbul...!

  • @kaloyanradkov8962
    @kaloyanradkov8962 4 года назад +1

    Well done. Thank you for covering Bulgarian history! Hope soon we see more historic bulgarian battles!!! Keep up the good work!!!

  • @jackyboy6170
    @jackyboy6170 4 года назад +11

    You know when there's no picture of the ruler their reign wasn't a success

  • @BayejidBinZahid
    @BayejidBinZahid 4 года назад +3

    As always, an amazing video. Thanks for the history lesson.

  • @ivassilev1728
    @ivassilev1728 4 года назад

    Thank you so very much for making this video!! You are awesome!

  • @KarateTeddy27
    @KarateTeddy27 4 года назад +13

    Can you please do more videos about the bulgars and Bulgarians as they have lots of interesting battles and wars

  • @ramdom-yy4wy
    @ramdom-yy4wy 4 года назад +20

    wait, bulgaria used to be in crimea? O.o you learn something new everyday!

    • @0d138
      @0d138 4 года назад +2

      Eeeh not actually Crimea, more like north Caucasus and part of the steppes beyond that.

    • @NikeBG
      @NikeBG 4 года назад +2

      The Bulgars originally started in the lands north of the Caucasus Mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas. According to one legend, they were afraid of crossing the waters, but at one time some young men were hunting a deer which ran across the strait and thus showed them how to get to the other side. Which they immediately did, of course, taking a part of the Crimean Peninsula (other parts on the southern coast remained Byzantine for centuries, and there were also some Tetraxite Goths still there).

    • @knife4430
      @knife4430 4 года назад +1

      Bulgaria had most of whet Ukraine is
      The capital was Fanagoria and it was in Crimea

  • @fortnight5879
    @fortnight5879 4 года назад +41

    Balkanites on the internet usually:
    Balkanites when someone makes a historical video about their nation: URRAAAAAAA

  • @HoH
    @HoH 4 года назад

    Great video and very well-researched. Thank you!

  • @Miamcoline
    @Miamcoline 4 года назад

    Amazing detail, context and visualisation as usual!

  • @vladi221
    @vladi221 4 года назад +3

    At last!!! Bulgarian battles! Yes, just when I thought your videos cant get more interesting. :)

  • @user-ke4nl6ze4e
    @user-ke4nl6ze4e 4 года назад +7

    I would like to see more intresting videos about the Bulghars

  • @Amirreza_Karimi
    @Amirreza_Karimi 4 года назад +1

    By far, The best bazbattle intro ever! It gave me goosebumps!

  • @PloKleenex
    @PloKleenex 4 года назад +2

    your videos are always so awesome!

  • @skapunker1986
    @skapunker1986 4 года назад +4

    Ha learned something new today, when looking at the map of 1:50 i thought hey, wait a minute, Bulgaria isnt located over there. cool to learn about the origins of the bulgarians.

  • @zarni000
    @zarni000 4 года назад +6

    There seems to be quite a coincidence between the discontinuation of the thracian line of emperors heading the Eastern Roman Empire and the arrival of the Bulgars who are by some source said to be related to the Thracians of the region. Other sources state the Bulgars were thracians who were displaced by the invasion of Alexander the Great into the easter balkans and only returning to reclaim their land.

    • @nikolaygk3179
      @nikolaygk3179 4 года назад

      Very true, Bulgarians are the Thracians they didn't disappear from the history. Bulgarians were not nomadic conquers but went on a war to free their homeland and brothers South of Dunabe

    • @WolfCourtaud
      @WolfCourtaud 4 года назад +1

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA LOL

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures 4 года назад

    A gorgeous and informative vid as always, lovely animations on this Eastern Roman battle...Thanks!👍👍

  • @IvanIvanov-sm7uv
    @IvanIvanov-sm7uv 4 года назад +1

    Great video finally for Bulgarian history. Great channel great work as always.

  • @seanpecson2858
    @seanpecson2858 4 года назад +8

    * WHEN YOU ACCIDENTALLY PUSH THE WITHRAW BUTTON ON YOUR GENERAL AND DIDNT REALIZE IT UNTILL IT WAS TOO LATE IN TOTAL WAR.

  • @W1ndF4lc0n
    @W1ndF4lc0n 4 года назад +15

    To this day I don't understand where this misinformation that Bulgars were a Turkic tribe comes from, and why it's so common in the English-speaking world. All the modern evidence and theories based on it + re-examination of the old sources render this theory the least likely one.

    • @ivayloyurukov6202
      @ivayloyurukov6202 4 года назад +1

      Yes, that's true. Latest extensive research, lead by the university of Pavia, Italy, in cooperation with Bulgarian Academy of Science, shows little to no relation with Turkic origin of the Bulgars (Protobulgarians). Most likely the origin is east iranian.

    • @The-Samuil
      @The-Samuil 4 года назад

      @@ivayloyurukov6202 I think it's because because "Turkic" has come to refer to all the peoples of central Asia nowadays (which the Proto-bulgarians most likely were), despite possible inaccuracies.

    • @nikolaygk3179
      @nikolaygk3179 4 года назад +1

      The Iranian theory is as groundless as the Turkic. The genetic research and many historical sources says that Bulgarians are the Thracians. Two different branches of Bulgarians, those free ones north of Dunabe crossed the river and immediately unified with the Thracians subdued by the Romans who were later called Slavs.

    • @WolfCourtaud
      @WolfCourtaud 4 года назад

      That's because they WERE A TURKIC TRIBE, and that's a fact lol Keep dreaming your Aryan dreams trying to force people see you as "Aryan" instead of white-asian hapa mixed raced person, you sad racist.

    • @IK-so2bm
      @IK-so2bm 2 года назад

      @@ivayloyurukov6202 The latest story is that the Bulgarians were already living in Thrace for hundreds of years before Asparuh came. Hence, the Balkans were named after them.

  • @ulrich3486
    @ulrich3486 4 года назад

    Well done thank you another Well Done video I was waiting for the next one to come out but you delivered so thank you again I love your videos they're the best in the world you're the only RUclipsr Channel that I get excited about when I see a new video come up keep it up man we love you

  • @thecrusaderhistorian9820
    @thecrusaderhistorian9820 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video! i enjoyed it!

  • @darthveatay
    @darthveatay 4 года назад +27

    Yeah baby the bulgars finally!!!!

  • @blindtherapper2470
    @blindtherapper2470 4 года назад +6

    Can you do Bulgarian expansions and fights against the Byzantines, Rashka and Croatia?

  • @treds6801
    @treds6801 4 года назад

    Amazing content as always!

  • @endwarguy
    @endwarguy 4 года назад +3

    7.50 I see Asparuh deployed the Smiley Face formation.

  • @eliad6543
    @eliad6543 4 года назад +3

    Oh yes, the mighty Bulgarian smiley face formation.

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable3798 4 года назад +15

    I’ve seen ship battles.
    In time, I’d like to see battles involving firearms all the way up to the Second World War, for now.
    It’s be Interesting how you’ll display Tanks in both world wars & such.

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. 4 года назад

    Don't you just love it when a new batch of BazBattles comes up and for a little while you almost drown in quality content?

  • @parkerflorence5332
    @parkerflorence5332 4 года назад +1

    Love your content!!! I’m looking forward to a battle of Actium episode

  • @linleyredford1354
    @linleyredford1354 4 года назад +12

    I am a simple man: BazBattles uploads, I watch

    • @clamum
      @clamum 4 года назад

      lol yep

    • @Poffean
      @Poffean 4 года назад +1

      A simple man would not like bazbattles, only true commanders can watch and learn from history

  • @NexusHunter9
    @NexusHunter9 4 года назад +14

    Bulgarians have little to no Turkic origins. Modern DNA studies show less then 1% of Turkic DNA nation wide. Also resent analysis and studies suggest that Asparuh had 20 000+ soldiers at the battle. Otherwise why would the emperor himself go to deal with them along with such a large forse AND the prised and very expensive navy

    • @BeedrillYanyan
      @BeedrillYanyan 4 года назад +1

      Modern Bulgarians, yes. Turkic DNA was diluted through intermixing with the local slavic populations for over a thousand years. Hence, very little of the original Turkic DNA.

    • @tamaszlav
      @tamaszlav 4 года назад +3

      LOL at using modern DNA studies to determine people from 1400 years ago.

    • @NexusHunter9
      @NexusHunter9 4 года назад

      @@tamaszlav buddy if we look far back enough I am sure we will find a common ancestor between you and I (:

    • @NexusHunter9
      @NexusHunter9 4 года назад

      @@BeedrillYanyan That is true, though how many migrated is unknown. Some say it was a difference 80%-20% in favour or the slavs, some argue that it was 60%-40%.

    • @g-rexsaurus794
      @g-rexsaurus794 4 года назад

      @@NexusHunter9 20% seems way too much even, the Bulgars would have assimilated the locals then.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 4 года назад

    A video from Kings and Baz today!? Now it’s a good day 😁

  • @Nate-dv5dp
    @Nate-dv5dp 4 года назад

    Thank you for the great video! Please do more videos on Bulgarian history

  • @iaveris100
    @iaveris100 4 года назад +3

    hi from Thessaloniki Greece !!!!!

    • @danboud8135
      @danboud8135 4 года назад

      How was the pronunciation? Asking for a friend...

    • @iaveris100
      @iaveris100 4 года назад +2

      @@danboud8135 perfect

    • @danboud8135
      @danboud8135 4 года назад

      @@iaveris100 :D

  • @InfectedByZanza
    @InfectedByZanza 4 года назад +16

    Lol, g2g hahahaha, Imagine being there and hearing that

  • @GrailSeeker
    @GrailSeeker 4 года назад +3

    Finally Bulgarian history! Thank you!

  • @ethercruiser1537
    @ethercruiser1537 4 года назад +1

    Very important sequence of events & battle that I was unaware of in history.

  • @dand7763
    @dand7763 4 года назад +19

    my name is Daniel Constantin, i'm from Romania , i wonder from where my name "Constantin" came ...wait ...ohh! i know now ! :)
    hello,neighbors! , good warriors you had in the past...

    • @avpultramanxX9
      @avpultramanxX9 4 года назад +5

      The name Constantine actually comes from Constantine the Great, who died several hundred years before this battle.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great

    • @avpultramanxX9
      @avpultramanxX9 4 года назад +10

      To put more accurately, that's why it's now a popularized name -- it was a Greek and Roman name before that but Constantine the Great's actions made it popular enough to survive through history.

    • @chrisdaniels3929
      @chrisdaniels3929 4 года назад +1

      At York Minster (UK) is a statue of Constantine the Great. He was declared Roman emperor nearby.

    • @grafdelafergrafdelaf
      @grafdelafergrafdelaf 4 года назад +1

      Not just in the past, the 3rd Bulgarian kingdom army has never lost a flag in a battle. Our army also marched in Bucharest, just 100 years ago. Greetings!

    • @dand7763
      @dand7763 4 года назад +1

      @@grafdelafergrafdelaf we also marched in Budapest in august 1920 ;) regarding 1917 , it was the german army combined with austro-hungarian forces that we have to deal , so 1 vs 3 , romanian army retreat in Moldova , was a wise decision ,we held there all 4 enemy armies , we against germans, hungarians, austrians and bulgarians... actually the bulgarian army came in an empty Bucharest , without resistance...despite against all worse odds , we survived and we formed Greater Romania in 1920...

  • @gonavygonavy1193
    @gonavygonavy1193 4 года назад +12

    Man it's a hard life being the Eastern Roman Emperor

    • @AlexanderVRadev
      @AlexanderVRadev 4 года назад +1

      Well they are the ones who made it much harder by insisting on fighting Bulgarians. If they just stuck to ruling and dealing with the Asian problems they might just be still around. ;)

    • @jaysolano8764
      @jaysolano8764 4 года назад

      Its hard life if your so stupid.

    • @Ghost-vi8qm
      @Ghost-vi8qm 4 года назад

      I'd love to be a Byzantine emperor. All those women... 😛

    • @AlexanderVRadev
      @AlexanderVRadev 4 года назад +1

      @Xaris Xeros Nope. Great Bulgaria was a self sufficient country. Not one made of raiders. By some accounts Asparuh actually studied in Constantinople and his line Dulo was by some accounts speculated to have become Christian before the death of Kubrat. When Asparuh came to the area, he did not raid. He made trade agreements and alliances, and settled at the boarder in the for-mentioned marsh land that was by all accounts not very good and no one actually used it at the time. The Slavs you might note fight with the Bulgarians against The Romans, who have been ruling over them as concurred people.
      The Romans and Kubrat's Great Bulgaria had a good relation in the past. The emperor got overconfident and instead of create an Alliance with what could have been a great and powerful ally to the north. he chose to wage war.

    • @user-zq5gr8iw4g
      @user-zq5gr8iw4g 4 года назад +2

      @Xaris Xeros No either any other europian country like Spain, France, England,Italy,Croatia or Hungary. They all are founded by invaders from Aasia or other parts of Europe.

  • @kingnawaffcv7513
    @kingnawaffcv7513 4 года назад +1

    man I like your videos you are the best keep up the good work 👍👍👍

  • @toni7575
    @toni7575 4 года назад

    Yes, another classic bazzbattle!

  • @jacobw.9342
    @jacobw.9342 4 года назад +8

    YES YES YES!!! PLEASE MORE BYZANTINE VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @GarkKahn
    @GarkKahn 4 года назад +5

    I'm main byzantines in aoe 2
    In definitive edition i want to be main bulgarians for some reason
    Maybe this battle is the reason

  • @umrete
    @umrete 4 года назад +1

    Благодаря за видето! #БългарияНаТриМорета **🇧🇬**
    thanks for the video... as much as we fought the empires around us couple of times we saved the west... which I am grateful for

  • @cole9799
    @cole9799 3 года назад

    very informative , thanks!

  • @Dan19870
    @Dan19870 4 года назад +5

    So the Emperor couldn't have just marched his army into the Danube delta, sent messages demanding taxes and troops in exchange for peace?

  • @danieltabin6470
    @danieltabin6470 4 года назад +6

    Interesting aside, but asparuh had an Iranian / Scythian name meaning horse soul or shining horses

  • @grizla1895
    @grizla1895 4 года назад

    Strong work, Baz.

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome thanks 👍

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 года назад +20

    *Let's get down to business! To defeat the Huns!*
    Constantine after the battle:

    • @itanimulll
      @itanimulll 4 года назад

      You are messed up lol

  • @alecmvp
    @alecmvp 4 года назад +3

    Awesome video, well done!
    Details about the battle are accurate, however there are obsolete statements about the origin of the Bulgarians, cooperation with slavs, the khan title, etc.

  • @EHS84
    @EHS84 4 года назад

    I really do enjoy these episodes. Fan of historic battles, great little animations, full of information and the narrator is so easy to listen to! Keep up the great work to all involved!!
    P.s. don’t ever remove the speech bubbles, they make me chuckle

  • @agent5866
    @agent5866 4 года назад +2

    The guy who drew the map is talented af.

  • @user-qo9xb7re4v
    @user-qo9xb7re4v 4 года назад +3

    YEEE FINALLY MY COUNTRY. BULGARIA

  • @andyjackson7932
    @andyjackson7932 4 года назад +5

    You should play Medieval 2: Total War

  • @GloryUtd84
    @GloryUtd84 4 года назад

    I've never been here for a fresh video... I don't know what to do.

  • @hervegallardo5840
    @hervegallardo5840 4 года назад

    I enjoy watching your content bazbattles. Hope you do Gallic wars or Ceasar vs. Pompey