Battle of Adrianople, 1205 AD ⚔️ Emperor Kaloyan, the Roman Slayer

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  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +52

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    • @adamandsharonrowe6605
      @adamandsharonrowe6605 5 лет назад +3

      Thanks for another great vid

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +4

      @@adamandsharonrowe6605 Thank you for watching.

    • @adamandsharonrowe6605
      @adamandsharonrowe6605 5 лет назад +3

      @@HistoryMarche your channel definitely deserves to be far more well known particularly given the quality of your content

    • @timmcclymont3527
      @timmcclymont3527 5 лет назад +3

      Best ending yet. "The Roman-slayer."

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +1

      @@timmcclymont3527 Thank you sir. Yeah, that's how contemporaries described Kaloyan.

  • @MrMantoko
    @MrMantoko 5 лет назад +501

    Actually Kaloyan tried to make a non-aggression pact with the Latin Empire. Baldwin simply replied that Bulgaria is already part of the Latin Empire.

    • @christos.5302
      @christos.5302 4 года назад +98

      imagine the arrogance

    • @christos.5302
      @christos.5302 4 года назад +106

      @@combatantezoteric2965 Bulgaria was never ruled by Romanians lol....

    • @christos.5302
      @christos.5302 4 года назад +98

      @@combatantezoteric2965 It's not correct to say it was ruled by Vlachians, they considered themselves Bulgarians and Bulgaria was always ruled by people who considered themselves Bulgarian. It doesn't matter where they came from, it only matters what they feel is their identitiy.

    • @ИванГеоргиев-э6д
      @ИванГеоргиев-э6д 4 года назад +41

      @@combatantezoteric2965 Romanian don't have right to talk about history because they don't have any history at all!

    • @princefriedman3025
      @princefriedman3025 4 года назад +10

      ​@@christos.5302 I think this is a misunderstanding, because medieval Greeks refered to their country as "Romania" and themselves as "Romanians"

  • @gelgamath_9903
    @gelgamath_9903 5 лет назад +1202

    Chasing a retreating army of steppe nomads is the medieval equivalent of invading Russia during winter

    • @namelessone9941
      @namelessone9941 5 лет назад +26

      Yeah he's talking about the cuman

    • @Ribarlan
      @Ribarlan 5 лет назад +11

      @transylvanian Kaloyan was a cuman himself, but a christian. The whole Asen dynasty were cumans.

    • @Ribarlan
      @Ribarlan 5 лет назад +1

      @transylvanian cumans were not your average mercenaries. He had family ties with their leaders and tribal chiefs.

    • @Ribarlan
      @Ribarlan 5 лет назад +3

      @transylvanian sorry, maybe I didn't understand you quite well.
      My point is that there was no clear distinction between settled down Bulgarians and Nomadic Cumans. That's why I pointed out Kaloyan's cuman descent.
      Actually many Cumans settled in Bulgaria around this time. All of the ruling dynasties of Bulgaria were from Cuman descent, up until the Ottoman invasion.

    • @mihailnikoloff2554
      @mihailnikoloff2554 5 лет назад +12

      @@Ribarlan ANd none of them spoke ''cuman'' or called himself ''cuman'' they were all Bulgarrians.

  • @petargeorgiev7965
    @petargeorgiev7965 5 лет назад +212

    Bulgarian history seems to be on the trend these days. That's great!

    • @geletoz
      @geletoz 3 года назад +14

      Greetings from Somalia 🇸🇴 to Bulgaria 🇧🇬

    • @BringBackCyrillicBG
      @BringBackCyrillicBG 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@geletozThank you friend, may borh we get prosperity

    • @IvanKarAmazoV421
      @IvanKarAmazoV421 5 месяцев назад

      They had a couple of great vlach tsars indeed 💪💪💪

  • @cameronstuart1397
    @cameronstuart1397 5 лет назад +446

    "Are they drawing us into a trap?"
    "Nah bro..."

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +34

      lol

    • @admiralsquatbar127
      @admiralsquatbar127 5 лет назад +13

      I wonder if one of them shouted "It's a trap!"

    • @paracovo
      @paracovo 5 лет назад +34

      Me at 7:17:
      Would be pretty funny if there were a couple thousand bulgarians in that forest, eh?
      Me at 9:42:
      lol they dead af

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +6

      @@paracovo 😅

    • @Bayganu
      @Bayganu 5 лет назад +6

      They were quite aware that they are riding into a trap, but thought that may be God is on their side :)

  • @major0noob
    @major0noob 5 лет назад +702

    if a blind man saw a trap the day before, how the hell was louis soo well regarded? the entire chase screamed ambush, was he just the least stupid crusader?

    • @WWSzar
      @WWSzar 5 лет назад +178

      Feigned retreats were not common place in Western Europe at the time, it would happen over and over again to western armies. Legnica, Nikopolis, Grunwald, Kircholm are just few examples from the top of my head where armies unexposed to such tactics were baited into over extending.

    • @saifudin3953
      @saifudin3953 5 лет назад +15

      That's how history work

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад +4

      imagines be like Moral Story: Don't let King your Army starts Chase Bulgarian Empire army set you Trap be killing army own but The King didn't Order Commander yourself.

    • @turmunhkganba1705
      @turmunhkganba1705 5 лет назад +32

      jake otto the Mongols are famous for using variations on feigned retreat over and over again so its not just a crusader problem

    • @uporabn1k
      @uporabn1k 5 лет назад +63

      The most kills done in medieval Europe was not during pitch battle but after one army broke and started to flee. It was easy to run down disorganized fleeing enemy then. It was also the least hazardous way of killing as much of your enemies. So Euros tended to do it as much as possible. Good tactic against armies on foot... Not so good against steppe horsemen that are highly mobile. However, if you are not used to fight against steppe horsemen you are not familiar with their faint retreats. Kinda like Celts fighting Romans... For Celts single combat was quite common while Romans didn't had that concept. Happend that after single combat Romans stormed forward to avenge their fallen comrade instead of saying "Right, we lost, let's go home."

  • @tincan6747
    @tincan6747 5 лет назад +382

    Baldwin spent the rest of his life in captivity in the then capital of bulgaria.
    In what became known as Baldwin's tower at the city's fortress

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 5 лет назад +49

      Nice, serves the westerner right for mingling in the Balkans.

    • @takiranayaki7870
      @takiranayaki7870 5 лет назад +28

      At least he had better chance than to be sodomized constantly by the Catholic priests back home

    • @darkfoxjj
      @darkfoxjj 5 лет назад +9

      @Nuraby _ Afghan muslim tribes do it all the time apparently.

    • @starhawck
      @starhawck 5 лет назад

      That's a myth.

    • @tincan6747
      @tincan6747 5 лет назад +4

      @@starhawck what do you think happened to him then

  • @Hartofilax
    @Hartofilax 5 лет назад +159

    Kaloyan "You came to the wrong neighborhood latins."
    Thanks for making this amazing content. Everyone today are blesses with such interesting way of learning history.

    • @VasileIuga
      @VasileIuga 5 лет назад +8

      I'm just saying, Kaloyan was probably more Latin than the "Latins".

    • @affentaktik2810
      @affentaktik2810 5 лет назад +1

      Vasile Iuga why tho he was slav

    • @Hartofilax
      @Hartofilax 5 лет назад +4

      @@affentaktik2810 Well, there is no concrete evidence, but the historians pretty much agree that he and his entire family was mixed with Cuman origin. Probably why Cumans were allies of Bulgaria and after Cumania was destroyed many of them were allowed to settle in Bulgaria. A lot of places and names still are from cuman origin.

    • @MrDomitian
      @MrDomitian 5 лет назад +1

      @@affentaktik2810 no , he not was slav, he has cumans( turkish) or even vlah origins

    • @Zodarro
      @Zodarro 5 лет назад +4

      He most likely had vlachian and cuman ancestry

  • @derptrolling4740
    @derptrolling4740 5 лет назад +108

    Krum: drinking wine from Nick's skull
    Kaloyan: drinking wine from Baldwin's skull.

    • @christos.5302
      @christos.5302 5 лет назад +10

      In short we like the skulls of dem enemies

    • @profil4e
      @profil4e 4 года назад

      you know what's up hehe

    • @ИванГеоргиев-э6д
      @ИванГеоргиев-э6д 4 года назад +10

      Слава на всички български владетели победители!

    • @LittleBaboon
      @LittleBaboon 3 года назад

      ... 'cetp Baldwin was never turned into skull-chalice....but hey, a being a bit overly excited about your people's leaders is not that bad

    • @geletoz
      @geletoz 3 года назад

      @@LittleBaboon not that you can say that for certain he didn't lol..guy was defeated like Niko was, was captured alive or dead like Niko...his head was available to Kaloyan..doesn't matter if he did or didn't turn his skull into a wine cup. I will personally assume his head was turnt into a wine cup by some Bulgarian prison guard if not kaloyan

  • @nexeos
    @nexeos 5 лет назад +647

    Commanding French knights in battle is like being a kindergarten teacher

    • @TheSunderingSea
      @TheSunderingSea 5 лет назад +110

      NO! DO NOT EAT THE CRAYONS! AND NO CHARGING THE TURKISH LINE NEAR NECROPOLIS WITHOUT INFANTRY!

    • @manualteirac9817
      @manualteirac9817 5 лет назад +30

      The Battle of Patay is the perfect opposition to your comments.
      When 180 French knights destroy the half of an English army of about 5000 men. less than a hundred men lost on the French side. Followed the battle of Castillon with another massacre .. ^^
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Patay

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 5 лет назад +60

      @@manualteirac9817 because it was west europeans vs west europeans, there is no one from outside the bubble to expose how amateurish their style of warfare is!

    • @colingravon9810
      @colingravon9810 5 лет назад +37

      @@manualteirac9817 The link says 1500 knights vs 5000 mostly archers. The French discovered them maneuvering for position and charged and instantly routed them. Then chased them down the road. If it was Subatai the French force disappears with no trace. It confirms the original hypothesis I think.

    • @manualteirac9817
      @manualteirac9817 5 лет назад +3

      @@colingravon9810 It's 180 knigth charge on archer + footmen at arms. 1st phase, after it's a 2scd phase with engligh flee.

  • @gretellmontiel4364
    @gretellmontiel4364 5 лет назад +136

    Good job covering some of the lesser known, but interesting battles in history.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +5

      Thank you sir.

    • @mihailnikoloff2554
      @mihailnikoloff2554 5 лет назад +9

      Lesser known to who? This battle is pretty much famous for everyone who's into Crusader and Medieval European history.

    • @profil4e
      @profil4e 4 года назад

      Even though a it's a bit bias (and i'm sure you know what I mean) , it's really interesting to watch.

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 4 года назад +1

      Lesser known? I learned about this battle in 2nd grade.

  • @Mttttt12
    @Mttttt12 5 лет назад +303

    Holy shit 90 years old during those times?! Absolutely bonkers

    • @blugaledoh2669
      @blugaledoh2669 5 лет назад +12

      He is born in 1115

    • @globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493
      @globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493 5 лет назад +2

      Who was 90 y o?

    • @blupunk01
      @blupunk01 5 лет назад +8

      Many years. Much old. Wow!

    • @GardEngebretsen
      @GardEngebretsen 5 лет назад +49

      It was unusual, but not that crazy to be that old back in the day. The reason why the average life span was much shorter was mostly because of the extremely high child mortality rate. Romans routinely became 70-80 for instance.

    • @ahrlj24
      @ahrlj24 5 лет назад +11

      Amr ibn al-As
      was born almost 1500 years before and lived for over 90 years.

  • @zarni000
    @zarni000 5 лет назад +83

    Fun fact. Maria of Bulgaria, Kaloyan's daughter, whom he betrothed to emperor Henry von Hennegau (Henry of Flanders) promptly killed him by instigating Oberto II of Biandrate, ex-regent of Thessaloniki, to poison him in 1216. Apparently she had her father, the Romanslayer, in her :)

    • @LittleBaboon
      @LittleBaboon 3 года назад

      Nice Trivia! Thank you for that!

    • @nikolaygk3179
      @nikolaygk3179 3 года назад +5

      From what I have read, the allegation that Mariya poisoned, her husband Henry isn't supported by any evidence.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 2 года назад

      @@nikolaygk3179 I was there. The little sl*t did it.

    • @david-468
      @david-468 Год назад

      Breaking promises is not a good characteristic no matter how much 20’s Nationalist propaganda tells you different

    • @vencislavgynev8282
      @vencislavgynev8282 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@nikolaygk3179
      Many sources say, that he was very bad and abusive towards her. Because he viewed her as lesser than him. Which was ironic, because everyone, who knows history, knows how sophisticated and moder for its time South Europeans were compared to North and West in that period of time. For the hygiene i will not even talk.😂

  • @Terter1551
    @Terter1551 5 лет назад +70

    Great video! I`m looking forward to more Bulgarian content. One interesting fact, Kaloyan named himself Roman-slayer after the siege of Varna in 1201. He captured the city from the Byzantines and buried all of the captured roman soldiers alive in the moat of the fortress.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +30

      I'll definitely do more topics from the Balkans & Carpathians, those are the two regions I'm quite fascinated with. So Bulgaria too is very much part of my plans.

    • @vashtalelq
      @vashtalelq 5 лет назад +9

      @@HistoryMarche Keep your promise and become my favorite history channel :D

    • @johnnyplatis
      @johnnyplatis 4 года назад +4

      @@HistoryMarche I have to friendly warn you, the peoples of the Balkans are quite itchy, the comment section can be easily turned into a war zone -:)

    • @pyroshrimp4073
      @pyroshrimp4073 3 года назад +1

      @@johnnyplatis i haven't seen to many wars, most people making jokes and putting hardships behind them

    • @johnnyplatis
      @johnnyplatis 3 года назад +1

      @@pyroshrimp4073 i know what you mean, and maybe joking is the best way to clear the heavy atmosphere. peace.

  • @Muguratiu
    @Muguratiu 5 лет назад +67

    Goosebumps at 9:42
    Out of the thick undergrowth came the Bulgarians and the Vlachs!
    Such a formidable move

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +10

      Thank you sir. Indeed the ambush was well planned and executed. I love battles that involve a bit of trickery.

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 5 лет назад +3

      We are still in the underground, neighbor.

    • @tonit4233
      @tonit4233 4 года назад +7

      When we Bulgarians and Romanians cooperate we achieve great things

    • @tiziogg6350
      @tiziogg6350 3 года назад +1

      @@tonit4233 ahh!!!
      Good times!
      Carol why the fuck you made us attacking the bulgarians in 1913?

    • @tonit4233
      @tonit4233 3 года назад +2

      @@tiziogg6350Our ruler Ferdinand was following his dynastic goals. He couldn't have cared less about Bulgaria. Deciding to conquer Constantinople instead of occuping the ethnically bulgarian macedonia, this self-centered megaloman doomed us and our relationship with all balkan nations.

  • @_Channel-ce4vq
    @_Channel-ce4vq 5 лет назад +39

    Love from Bulgaria

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +3

      Cheers! Thank you for watching.

    • @0d138
      @0d138 5 лет назад +4

      @@HistoryMarche +1 Bulgarian here. Good job 👍

  • @ivassilev1728
    @ivassilev1728 5 лет назад +43

    Thank you so very much for making this video.
    Fun fact in 1204, when the siege of Constantinoplr began, Kaloyan tried to negotiate an alliance with the crusaders, proposing to give them a 100 000 strong army but the latins refused, saying that the bulgarian empire was not a legitimate state and because at that point, the bulgarians were orthodox Christians.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +8

      Thank you for watching.

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify 5 лет назад +9

      a army of 100K men around those times is impossible, even the Ottoman Empire suffered to host a big army of 100K men

    • @ivassilev1728
      @ivassilev1728 5 лет назад +3

      @@mariano98ify yeah, I was surprised as well. But when you consider that in 1040 the revolt of Peter Delyan fielded an army of 40 000 and this was just one province and not an official army. But I am almost certain it was around 100k.

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify 5 лет назад +5

      ​@@ivassilev1728 you said that, a "province revolt", a bunch of pleb and folks, they werent men at arms, they were men and women with barely weapons and armour, in any war-age, the lords need farmers working the camps, you cant afford so many men at the battle far of their home because you have to feed them and maybe the campaigns persist by years and not weeks, the Roman Empire pre-arabic invasion when they have 13 millions of inhabitants they just could afford a 300K men on their armies

    • @ivassilev1728
      @ivassilev1728 5 лет назад +1

      @@mariano98ify It could be that the numbers are greatly exaggerated by sources or that it is because of the large population of the region and the fact that bulgarian soldiers were lightly armoured so they did not have to spend the same amount of resources on fielding and maintaining an army. Or it could be a cause of the rising power of the Bulgarian empire. Unfortunately a lot of the sources on the period were destroyed and information is quite scarse. It could also be a trick employed by Kaloyan to secure his alliance with the crusaders as his state was considered not legitimate and he needs somebody to officially acknowledge the status of the empire(which happens a few months after the battle). Another possibility is that the large number is due to the allied kuman soldiers which are quite numerous.
      This comment got a bit too long and I apologise for it. I just wanted to give out all of the theories I have on it.

  • @worsethanjoerogan8061
    @worsethanjoerogan8061 5 лет назад +109

    The 4th Crusade: the biggest own goal in the history of Christendom

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 5 лет назад +42

      own goals are accidents. 4th Crusade was a top ten anime betrayal of all time.

    • @todorminchev2123
      @todorminchev2123 4 года назад +4

      Arrogance and greed, the Romans could not bear the idea of a possible bulgarian heir to the throne

  • @holyse7en
    @holyse7en 5 лет назад +38

    Bulgarians pulled a pro gamer move.

  • @danielnikolaev8127
    @danielnikolaev8127 5 лет назад +70

    Awsome channel.
    May I just point out, that according to Kaloyan's correspondence with the pope, prior to engaging the Latin empire, he offered them piece and alliance against the byzantines. The latins refused.
    And another thing - it was a double ambush. Louis was surrounded, then Baldwin's force arrived and in turn was surrounded itself.
    Thank you for creating this channel. I trully enjoy watching it.
    Cheers

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +4

      Thank you sir. Welcome to the channel.

  • @Roargus
    @Roargus 5 лет назад +463

    Once again the real enemy shows itself: arrogance and ignorance.

    • @johnyang8549
      @johnyang8549 5 лет назад +3

      agreed

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 5 лет назад +12

      I am soooooo not suprised by this, after watching many other medieval fights between Western and Non-Western armies. The Western knights would be unbeatable on the field, then lose discipline, then act dumb and get slaughtered. Every single time.

    • @Nortrix87
      @Nortrix87 5 лет назад +6

      Knights were nobilety. More by birth(arrogance) and wealth (equipment). Normans however.

    • @Nortrix87
      @Nortrix87 5 лет назад +4

      @kiril marinov exactly. Norman knight was by skill. Not birth.

    • @Bogdan-uu5oe
      @Bogdan-uu5oe 5 лет назад +11

      @@Nortrix87 Knights in east are funny as hell, Pathians and Saramatains (Persian ppl - eastern guys) invented the heavy cavalry (Cathaphracts) even some say the legend of Arthur (celtic-italic name means Bear) and his round table knights is based of a Roman name Arturius and his Sarmatian Auxilia. The Dragon is inspired from Draco Scytian and/or Dacian flag that was borrowed by Romans. Cumans, Bulgars and Vlachs are descendants (probably not linguistically) of those Scyto-Sarmatian and Daco-Thracians tribes , and they were very aware how mounted combat works, they did this for possible thousand of years and also good horses were more accessible here at a cheaper price. And anytime knights came here they treat those warriors as peasants and forget that those guys knows very well how mounted combat works and ignoring that western combat is far different from eastern combat. Too much hypocrisy from the west.

  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary 5 лет назад +42

    Your channel is absolutely awesome!

  • @CrunchyNorbert
    @CrunchyNorbert 5 лет назад +143

    Darwin award goes to Baldwin and Louis

    • @CrunchyNorbert
      @CrunchyNorbert 5 лет назад +9

      @Glenn Krenz dude I'm doing a MSc in logistics, every commander with above room temperature IQ knows not chase skirmishers with heavy units, thats how every ambush starts

    • @CrunchyNorbert
      @CrunchyNorbert 5 лет назад +9

      @Glenn Krenz ok boomer

    • @shadden_x
      @shadden_x 5 лет назад +4

      I understand your logistical point but please also think about the human and disciplinary side of this kind of combat. In those times maintaning a formation was hard enough, even more when under fire and requested to withstand it. Even nowadays it requires a lot of training and resilience to obey a standing defensive order whilst getting shot at.

    • @CrunchyNorbert
      @CrunchyNorbert 5 лет назад +3

      @@shadden_x these jackasses destroyed the roman empire I don't have sympathy

    • @shadden_x
      @shadden_x 5 лет назад +1

      @@CrunchyNorbert im not being sympathetic im only illustrating the combat difficulty and distress of being under harassment , independently of the sides in question. Especially whilst being unable to rispond.

  • @generalfishcake
    @generalfishcake 4 года назад +109

    I'm a Bulgarian, not really nationalist or anything, but damn, this was cool to watch.

    • @KatariaGujjar
      @KatariaGujjar 3 года назад +4

      Also watch Battle of Maritsa. 800 Turks vs 70,000 Serbs

    • @dantobarbarian4842
      @dantobarbarian4842 3 года назад +4

      Просто някъв джендър викаш

    • @J-doeg
      @J-doeg 3 года назад +10

      I’m a Greek, not really a nationalist but hearing about crusaders getting killed is pretty cool

    • @Lachezariii
      @Lachezariii 3 года назад +4

      A трябва. Националист не значи Валери Симеонов.

    • @thomassifford5356
      @thomassifford5356 3 года назад +6

      Nothing wrong in loving your country

  • @R3GARnator
    @R3GARnator 5 лет назад +43

    This is why knights in Medieval II: Total War have the 'may charge without orders' trait.

    • @carljohnson-up3gm
      @carljohnson-up3gm 5 лет назад +21

      Often followed by the battlecry of 'what are you doing you fucking idiots?' Being shouted at the screen!

    • @Carthagian
      @Carthagian 9 месяцев назад +1

      Haha definitely,only a few types of heavy cavalry don't have this skill such as Russian Tsar guard or Christian cavalry of Moors

  • @zippednc6
    @zippednc6 5 лет назад +18

    The effort that goes into these videos makes me appreciate them so much more. Thank you HistoryMarche for educating me. :)

  • @blitzkrieg2928
    @blitzkrieg2928 5 лет назад +263

    Latin emperor : I am the emperor of Romans
    John Kaloyan: I am gonna do a pro gamer move

    • @Mr-__-Sy
      @Mr-__-Sy 5 лет назад +6

      actually hes name was Johnny and he was vlachian

    • @0d138
      @0d138 5 лет назад +23

      @@Mr-__-Sy False

    • @Mr-__-Sy
      @Mr-__-Sy 5 лет назад +5

      @@0d138 actually no in all the history books he's named johnny or simply kaloyan and he really was vlachian as all the asanids were maybe he signed as john but if the history says hes name was johnny than it was johnny

    • @Stormvermin-bx1lh
      @Stormvermin-bx1lh 5 лет назад +8

      @@0d138 Yes, Kaloyan was a valachian, as all the Arsanesti family was. Later on they would be assassinated by the bulgarian nobles and the bulgarians would continue to rule in their place.

    • @Stoyan681
      @Stoyan681 5 лет назад +30

      @@Mr-__-Sy The origins of the dynasty, especially the ethnic background of the three Asen brothers (Teodor I Peter IV, Ivan Asen I and Kaloyan) are still a source of much controversy, debated among historians. There are three main hypothesis regarding their origins:[1]
      Cuman origin, as some of the names in the dynasty, including Asen, are derived from Cuman language. Groups of Cumans settled and mingled with the local population in many regions of the Balkans between the 10th and 13th centuries and founded also other successive Bulgarian dynasties (Terterids and Shishmanids).[2][3][4][5]
      Bulgarian origin, a view that is common among the Bulgarian historians who reckon that all native sources (from the 13th century[6]) use predominantly the terms Bulgaria, Bulgarians and Bulgarian, that tsar Kaloyan claimed provenance from the rulers of the First Bulgarian Empire.[7]
      Vlach origin,[8][9][10][11][12] a view supported mainly by Romanian and some foreign historians who base their claims on Byzantine sources, Western Crusade chronicles, and letters between Pope Innocent III and Kaloyan.[13][6]

  • @vegapunk100
    @vegapunk100 5 лет назад +35

    If I was super rich I would make a movie company, and make historically accurate films based on videos from this channel

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +7

      If you ever do that, maybe you can hire me as a director :)

    • @vegapunk100
      @vegapunk100 5 лет назад +7

      @@HistoryMarche if your not there the films are not being made 😉

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +2

      @@vegapunk100 Haha, deal!

    • @KanasAudan
      @KanasAudan 4 года назад +1

      I wanna be rich too. And I have the same idea.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 5 лет назад +212

    LOOOOUUUUUIIIIIISSSSS JEEENNNKINSSSSS!

  • @gargantuapantagruelski7973
    @gargantuapantagruelski7973 4 года назад +31

    R.I.P Enrico Dandolo . Running away from the Bulgarians, he died of fatigue.

  • @Locomotion-uz4ly
    @Locomotion-uz4ly 5 лет назад +24

    Kaloian ("The Beautiful John"), self-styled Romaiookton ("The Slayer of Romans").

    •  4 года назад

      Romeoktonos

  • @МоходуХеу
    @МоходуХеу 5 лет назад +9

    Bravo for the video about Tsar Kaloyan, excellent work. See also the battle of Tsar Ivan II Asen the battle of Klokotnitsa in 1230.

  • @NimbleBard48
    @NimbleBard48 5 лет назад +33

    Square: "Have at thee Circle!"
    Circle: "Oh yeah? Take that Square!"

  • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
    @ArthaxtaDaVince777 5 лет назад +141

    Bulgars are such a fascinating people, with a great and long history.

    • @dilioification
      @dilioification 5 лет назад +14

      Kaloyan was vlach

    • @yunusderki
      @yunusderki 5 лет назад +12

      kaloyan was a vlach

    • @inter3684
      @inter3684 5 лет назад +7

      early bulgarians were turkic people from asia, so were the cumans. learn history

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад +1

      Moral Story: Don't let you starts Chase Bulgarian Empire army set you Trap be killing army own but The King didn't Order Commander yourself.

    • @koomshiqta
      @koomshiqta 5 лет назад +18

      I'm happy about that! There're so much interesting cultures around the world that I as a Bulgarian love and to see that someone else is interested in our's is so lovely! And about the dispute whether or not Tsar Kaloyan was a Wlach, there's probably answer. The Bulgars first settled what is to be today's Bessarabia and Wallachia, therefore Bulgarians and Romanians have so much common in their culture and history. Kaloyan was the third brother and the youngest one amongst Peter and Asen who liberated Bulgaria from Byzantine Rule (that lasted 100 years). Long story short: After the liberation of Bulgaria Asen and Peter were killed and the throne was taken from Kaloyan who just 2 years after the victory at Adrianople was killed aswell. THe Balkans are so GameOfThrone-ish... :D
      Here's a video about the Battle of Ongal in 680 and the creation of First Bulgarian Tsardom: ruclips.net/video/rMjFy0GMKCw/видео.html (Enable ENG Subs)
      And here's one veeery cool and interesting song created by this big talanted guy Ben from Ukulele Road Trips. Its about Asen, Peter and Kaloyan: ruclips.net/video/mMRzYFHSSsM/видео.html

  • @Danevv
    @Danevv 5 лет назад +35

    Hail Bulgaria! Great Bulgaria ~

    • @0d138
      @0d138 5 лет назад +4

      Слава!

  • @МаК3т0
    @МаК3т0 5 лет назад +7

    GREAT VIDEO !!! Im feel
    flattered that u made video about one of the best Bulgarian emperors !!! Keep it up !!!

  • @derptrolling4740
    @derptrolling4740 5 лет назад +47

    Another Bulgarian ambush. Remember Krum ambush at Pliska in 811.

    • @arandomgreekfrombactria6302
      @arandomgreekfrombactria6302 3 года назад +3

      That faliure was also blamed for the arrogance of Nicephorus I and his refusal to take the peace treaty after he had slain the 15'000 retinue (not Levy's) stationed in the Bulgarian capital and throughly sacked it, and his ignorance of ignoring the advice of all his officers and generals on how they were walking into a obvious ambush, at least then if Nicephorus I had listened, they might have gotten away from such a disaster in the nick of time.

    • @LittleBaboon
      @LittleBaboon 3 года назад

      @@arandomgreekfrombactria6302 ...your point being?

  • @starhawck
    @starhawck 5 лет назад +23

    Although there are mistakes in the video, it's good that bulgarian history get's some of the limelight it deserves.

    • @dilioification
      @dilioification 5 лет назад +1

      Kaloyan was vlach not bulgar!

    • @starhawck
      @starhawck 5 лет назад +18

      @@dilioification Do you have an insecurity complex or something? What in my comment made you say that, what ? Why ?

    • @starhawck
      @starhawck 5 лет назад +22

      @@dilioification P.s Are romanians romanised dacians or are they vlachs, cuz it seems you can't choose which one you want to support?
      P.s 2 Kaloyan and his family were most likely Cumans, going off of their names - Asen, Belgun and so on, not vlach. But still they titled themselves bulgarians and were "Tsar of bulgarians".
      But oh well, a 12 year old romanian that doesn't know jack shit about history is going to tell them what they are.

    • @stalinskaya9516
      @stalinskaya9516 5 лет назад +4

      @@starhawck Although I disagree with the guy above for beeing a complete asshole , I have to remind you that the term "vlach" means "Latin speaker" so it could've been used for the romanised dacians too. In "Strategikon" (7th century) Emperor Maurice talks about a population at the north of Danube and its migrations to the south and he calls them "Romans".

    • @dilioification
      @dilioification 5 лет назад +1

      @@starhawck calm down man! 😊 Kaloyan, Petru and Asan was vlachs! Deal with it!

  • @mohammedfazil7924
    @mohammedfazil7924 5 лет назад +229

    Bulgarian soldier: are you sure emperor we have done this move a hundred times
    Bulgarian emperor: dont worry always work with europeans.

    • @doomdrake123
      @doomdrake123 5 лет назад +6

      Yeah it was pro strategic move to use the terrain in order to negate the superiority of the latin armour.

    • @zebimicio5204
      @zebimicio5204 5 лет назад +10

      @@LuisAldamiz Early Bulgarians are Turkic/Tatars. They adopted "european" ideals along the lines.

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад +3

      Bulgarian Empire:Have Idea you need Bring some small Army bait enemy army Trigger Chase into set trap.
      Bulgarian Soldier: Good idea!

    • @MCorpReview
      @MCorpReview 5 лет назад +5

      Feel like tourists getting conned. These guys haven’t been in the Balkan’s that long

    • @tincan6747
      @tincan6747 5 лет назад +14

      @@zebimicio5204 turkic yes, but not tatars, the tatars appeared much later and are from a different branch of the language family

  • @neniAAinen
    @neniAAinen 5 лет назад +23

    Pursuing kumans on goddamn barded destriers for many miles is a smart idea. What could possibly go wrong?

  • @2G00d_4U
    @2G00d_4U 4 года назад +50

    Да живее Велика Обединена България 🇧🇬

    • @v.d6809
      @v.d6809 Год назад

      Nai obedinenata durjava. Bat Boiko, Kircho i Ykraineca na 15 moreta i 100 blata.

  • @gsaian4446
    @gsaian4446 3 года назад +4

    This content is better than anything on Netflix

  • @profil4e
    @profil4e 4 года назад +14

    Absolute military genius! As a gamer playing RTS like AOE or AOM, more than i'd like to admit, this is a victory worth celebrating! Take note of the terrain , have an inventory of what you can use, device a plan and use it to win even if your lacking in numbers! The absolute unit of military genius my friends !

  • @gotmog6854
    @gotmog6854 5 лет назад +13

    Please do more Bulgaria content theyre pretty intresting

  • @dixieflatline9772
    @dixieflatline9772 5 лет назад +57

    It's great when the good guys win.

    • @dimitrezlatanov7480
      @dimitrezlatanov7480 5 лет назад +2

      @transylvanian Absolute logic. This clear minded thinking may help stop history from repeating itself. Thank you for taking the time. Greetings from a Bulgarian :)

    • @BLUE5294
      @BLUE5294 5 лет назад +2

      Well fought men! I believe the lad stating there's no good or bad guys is the good guy here.

    • @lustinlis413
      @lustinlis413 3 года назад

      Well you cant say either side is good or bad everyone have belives and doing what is GOOD for him... there is only rulers and ambitions not good or bad

  • @elkageorgieva8515
    @elkageorgieva8515 9 месяцев назад +3

    In fact Kaloyan 1st send message to Balduin to have alliance. Latins cancel. Then Kaloyan offer a peace offer. Balduin said Bulgarians need to be vassals of Latin empire. Then Kaloyan receive offer from byzantine nobels to be represented as Byzantine emperor if he helps them to get back Constantinople. Thats it

  • @Dobriden_dobriden
    @Dobriden_dobriden 3 года назад +21

    His actual name was Johan, but he was a very handsome guy and nicknamed Kalojohan which means the beautiful Johan in Greek(the original Chadkiller). He was 6'6'' tall and buried an entire Byzantine city alive just so he can dub himself Romanslayer. All his teeth have been preserved and are perfectly healthy, so you can only imagine the smile of this handsome devil while raiding villages

  • @runbiatchhnikolov6341
    @runbiatchhnikolov6341 5 лет назад +18

    Damn man thanks about those series, it's very pleasant to know that someone really know and speak about the history of Bulgaria,and that is the exact history according to the old Bulgarian history books and not the bullshit they write today about Bulgarian-Ottoman "Friendship" oh fck I said too much...Carry on and again thanks we really appreciate that :)

  • @dand7763
    @dand7763 5 лет назад +46

    this battle is somehow similar with what happened in the battle of Paris, from 17 november 1993 , between France and Bulgaria ...

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 5 лет назад

      That battle was won by luck.

    • @dand7763
      @dand7763 5 лет назад +4

      @@silafuyang8675 like here , bulgarians were lucky that Louis was arrogant ,otherwise this battle could had another result

    • @МаК3т0
      @МаК3т0 5 лет назад +20

      Its very stupid to say IF Louis wasnt arrogant we were going to lose 1st u neverknow second how many generals in the past were arrogant and lost batte bcs of it... Was it luck again in Tutrakan my friend..

    • @anonymus4352
      @anonymus4352 4 года назад +1

      @tlv11
      You confuse the Bulgarian Empire with the ancestors of thraciens: spread beside the Danube river and Balkans.
      Today, they speak other languages (slavic, turkic, greek...) , but their blood is from thraciens.

    • @anonymus4352
      @anonymus4352 4 года назад +1

      Frate. Glumești. Despre ce vorbești ?

  • @meraxesrex6982
    @meraxesrex6982 5 лет назад +20

    The westerners were poor warriors. They did the same thing at Nicopolis against Bayezid The Lightning. They rejected the proposal of Mircea The Elder, which defeated Bayezid a year prior at Rovine, for a tactical faint attack by the Vlachs, and charged with the heavy cavalry, falling into the field works done by the Ottomans, which knew the westerners were almost entirely basing their force on the heavy cavalry. The knights had to abandon their horses an continue on foot. They were slaughtered. Seeing the enormity of the westerners, The Elder considered the day lost and left the battlefield.

    • @meraxesrex6982
      @meraxesrex6982 4 года назад +3

      @Jotaro97 they conquered primitive tribal cultures. And, mind you, I talk about Medieval Times. Later, with the industrialisation and development of modern warfare they've built the strongest and greatest armies of the world, especially Germans.

    • @johnnyboy3410
      @johnnyboy3410 2 года назад

      lmfao what ? poor warriors based on 1 video ? Charlemagne destroyed the Avars and Otto the Great destroyed Hungary and forced them to change their style to settle down instead of raiding like they always do, 1 battle won doesn’t absolve 100 lost

  • @kamata93
    @kamata93 11 месяцев назад +1

    One also interesting fact about Kaloyan - he was very tall. Like between 190-200 cm. Which in this time period, he was a giant. Pretty sure he would have taken Constantinople, if he wasnt poisoned prior to that.

  • @brandoncrapse1156
    @brandoncrapse1156 5 лет назад +5

    Always amazing work and many kudos on diving into a battle that I had never heard of before. This is often and overlooked part in history. Thank you for your work.

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea 5 лет назад +11

    Wow the quality of your videos just keep getting better and better. I can't wait to see what you put out next.
    Fun fact. It is believed that while Baldwin was initially treated as a high valued prisoner by Kaloyan, the Bulgarian would kill him in a fit of rage, some say it was because Baldwin tried to make moves on Kaloyan's wife. After his demise its believed Kaloyan turned Baldwin's skull into a drinking cup.

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад +1

      indeed Bulgarian has Strategic easy Bait Enemy Army Trigger starts Chase into set Traps.

    • @sennaka
      @sennaka 5 лет назад +1

      Why the hell would Baldwin do something that idiotic?

    • @barbiquearea
      @barbiquearea 5 лет назад +2

      @@sennaka It has been rumored that it was Kaloyan's wife who was trying to seduce him but he rejected her advances so in retaliation she went to her husband and accused Baldwin of trying to rape her.

    • @johniewalker4356
      @johniewalker4356 4 года назад

      @@barbiquearea #metoo

    • @mitkodimitrov8396
      @mitkodimitrov8396 2 года назад

      hihi there is story with the wife,and killing of Baldwin,but not making a cup from skull ...again hihih

  • @Blackrockmore
    @Blackrockmore 5 лет назад +18

    Woo epic trap, Go Bulgaria!

  • @1994mrmysteryman
    @1994mrmysteryman 5 лет назад +16

    Well, when you start with music from the dark knight, it's difficult not to get hyped.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +1

      Lol, I didn't even know that's the music from the Dark Knight, haven't seen it. It's a paid license for music from Epidemic Sound, so the artist there must've done a cover or something.

  • @nurithegolden5755
    @nurithegolden5755 5 лет назад +78

    Now this was totally a 300 IQ play

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +10

      lol, yeah the ambush was well executed. I love battles that have a bit of trickery about them.

    • @peymanmostafaei6963
      @peymanmostafaei6963 5 лет назад +8

      @@HistoryMarche Honestly it was clear from a mile away that there is gonna be an ambush. But like most other times, the knights managed to deceive themselves.

    • @affentaktik2810
      @affentaktik2810 5 лет назад +11

      peyman mostafaei you are always more aware of it a thousand years later and after already seeing a thousand animated battles that executed perfect ambushes
      Back then u couldnt see the map from above
      U couldnt know any of the things we know
      Always put urself into the moment of battle to understand the genius behind it

    • @peymanmostafaei6963
      @peymanmostafaei6963 5 лет назад +3

      @@affentaktik2810 You are right about knowing the things now but you have to understand the tactics used by Nomadic (Steppe) people. From different Scythian tribes, to German and later Mongolid-Turkic tribes, you can easily see that the tactics used mostly by them were hit-and-run and then the famous feign retreat. Just tell How many armies were annihilated by these tactics? How many times were these tactics used throughout history by different Nomadic people? Even the famous Arsacids (Parthians) used this tactic against Crassus in the Battle of Carrhae which by the way is related to their origins as the Arsacids were most likely Scythian or were related to them directly.

    • @oxyon1461
      @oxyon1461 5 лет назад +5

      @BulgaroSlav there wasn't internet until the late 1900's and yet people were able to learn basic military tactics and tricks for hundreds and thousands of years. the problem is that they are not leader because of their talents but cause they are born leaders, they learned 3 military tactics, can make it work in almost all situations or at least try to not have a catastrophic failure. they are for the most part dumb fucks who because they had some mild successes against peasant revolt on home ground believes themselves as successors of Alexander or Cesar. And then they encounter steppe nomads whom entire military strategy is based on fighting dumb fucks like this who never learn, and because they were able to perfectionate, you have this kind of situation where an """elite""" army get annihilated by falling in an obvious trap.

  • @DreamerFromBeyond
    @DreamerFromBeyond 5 лет назад +3

    Yes HistoryMarche is back!

  • @petarpanayotov4118
    @petarpanayotov4118 5 лет назад +5

    Oh, we actualy do win! Thank you for this amazing content and in depth analysis. Looking forward to more Bulgarian battles coming soon. You could even make a series about those. I would be glad to help, incl. with bulgarian subtitles in order to promote the channel among the Bulgarian population. If you find the idea time consuming for you, at it truly is, you may consider recreating the Battle of Achelous /917/ for example, which is one of the buggest battles to take place in the Middle Ages.

    • @krasenmonkov9613
      @krasenmonkov9613 3 года назад +1

      Пешо...try this ruclips.net/video/xoLZA1hab0s/видео.html

  • @metoo7557
    @metoo7557 5 лет назад +3

    Hooray! My daily fix of enticing history!Thanks for your hard work and dedication.

  • @yvetteszentesi6077
    @yvetteszentesi6077 5 лет назад +22

    3:14 - "This is like Easy Mode"
    *(Dryly)* How prophetic … XD
    Would you kindly compliment the editor of these little lines
    for his or her bone-dry witticism. It is just the kind of detail
    that raise these videos to a whole new level of awesome.

  • @Komap619
    @Komap619 3 года назад +2

    Love your channel and your take on Bulgarian - Byzantine history

  • @hocestbellumchannel
    @hocestbellumchannel 5 лет назад +4

    Wow the notification of this one came late!
    Another masterpiece from Mago, my good friend your pace is un -match-able!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you my friend. Your opinion truly means a lot. Btw, check your email, I sent the voice over hehe

    • @hocestbellumchannel
      @hocestbellumchannel 5 лет назад

      @@HistoryMarche Just did ;)!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +1

      @@hocestbellumchannel Thank you :) I was becoming hysterical: "OMG he posts comments but ignores my emails! WTF!" hahaha

    • @hocestbellumchannel
      @hocestbellumchannel 5 лет назад +1

      @@HistoryMarche hahhaha!

  • @valeriangelov5592
    @valeriangelov5592 5 лет назад +3

    Overall quality of your videos get better and better with every new episode !

  • @imperator7828
    @imperator7828 5 лет назад +53

    Ideas for future battles regarding the period
    Battle of antioch on the meander which secured nicaean existance against the seljuks.
    Battle of Poimanenon which dealt the final blow to the latin forces and saw nicaean influence expand across Northern Greece
    Battle of Pelagonia where the nicaeans defend against a coalition of the kingdom of sicily, principality of Achaea and despotate of epirus
    Siege and battle of Berat in 1281 which secured the reformed by the nicaeans byzantine empire against Charles Angevin

    • @antiochusiiithegreat7721
      @antiochusiiithegreat7721 5 лет назад +3

      Antioch on the meander is such a underrated battle that nobody has heard of.

    • @imperator7828
      @imperator7828 5 лет назад +1

      @@antiochusiiithegreat7721 everyone loves to focus on defeats when it comes to great empires

    • @aleksk4151
      @aleksk4151 5 лет назад

      Kaloyan put a revenge on Basil .

    • @imperator7828
      @imperator7828 5 лет назад +1

      @@aleksk4151 not quite though, his largest successes were against the latins, not the byzantines

    • @tylerellis9097
      @tylerellis9097 5 лет назад +1

      Aleksandar Kan Literally in no way but ok. Sacking Latin occupied Greek cities doesn’t = Byzantine Basil supposedly blinding Bulgarian Soldiers.

  • @silafuyang8675
    @silafuyang8675 5 лет назад +14

    Legends in Bulgaria say that Kaloyan was a giant man, taller than most of the men.

    • @АвитохолАтила
      @АвитохолАтила 5 лет назад +7

      Yes over 1.90 was high

    • @Bayganu
      @Bayganu 5 лет назад +10

      It's not a legend, his body was found. They even made an attempt to recreate his face from scull shapes.

    • @NikeBG
      @NikeBG 5 лет назад +7

      It's not really a legend - there is a burial in Tarnovo, wearing a ring with the inscription "Kaloyan's ring", which archaeologists and historians are still arguing whether it belongs to Tsar Kaloyan or to someone else with that name (which was rather popular in those times). If we presume that the burial belongs to the tsar, then he was quite tall indeed - about 1,9 metres, as mentioned. Likewise, there are several other burials in other locations, which some people attribute to other relatives of Kaloyan - his older brothers, the tsars Petar and Asen, as well as his cousin Ivanko - with all of them supposedly being between 1,9 and 2 metres tall.
      If anyone decides to write a historical-fantasy story, mixing real history with mythological elements, then it would make good sense to make the early Asenids half-Giants (or at least quarter-Giant). I myself have already dabbled with such a short story set in this time period.

    • @The-Samuil
      @The-Samuil 4 года назад

      @@NikeBG where can I read this story? You got me interested

    • @NikeBG
      @NikeBG 4 года назад +2

      @@The-Samuil It's a backstory for a game-mod character I had written some years ago - Valkadin Glog. It's nothing serious - a guy who claims to be a monster hunter in AD1200 and I even had him look somewhat like Geralt of Rivia. And, of course, I'm a complete amateur, so the style could be a lot better. But, eh... I enjoyed creating him and cramming hidden references to any legends and lore from this period I could find... :D
      europe1200.fandom.com/wiki/Valkadin_Glog
      P.S. It's good to remember that pretty much everything there comes from the mouth of Valkadin himself.

  • @BringBackCyrillicBG
    @BringBackCyrillicBG 11 месяцев назад +3

    Kaloyan the Latin/Greek slayer is so underrated while greeks were completely massacared off northern balkan territories

  • @thedoorguyiscool934
    @thedoorguyiscool934 5 лет назад +129

    Crusaders: Ahhh, Jerusalem probably looks fine too
    Literally everyone else: Hey, anyone seen Constantinople?
    *Crusader perspiration increases* 👀

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 5 лет назад +13

      But can they really be called crusaders? Any crusader from the past would have spit on their graves.

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 5 лет назад

      @@ArthaxtaDaVince777 I don't know about that. At least one of the original crusaders, Robert Guiscard I believe had just led a campaign against the Byzantines only a few years before going to the Holy Land.

    • @antiochusiiithegreat7721
      @antiochusiiithegreat7721 5 лет назад

      Well the original idea was just regime change but obviously even in recent "Iraq" history regime change is a risky business.

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 5 лет назад +5

      @@worsethanjoerogan8061 I mean he took southern Italy and and some of the Balkans... But to plunder and sack Constantinople, no real crusader would stand by that.

    • @bhagwankerhindouchebag4609
      @bhagwankerhindouchebag4609 5 лет назад +1

      The pope convinced them that the Byzantine were heretics and just as bad as a regular infidel.

  • @todrkdck9805
    @todrkdck9805 5 лет назад +7

    Another History marche video!!!! What a perfect video to make a day!!!! 😍😍😍

  • @austinmonreal2331
    @austinmonreal2331 5 лет назад +9

    Damn I love this narrator's voice.

  • @Nate-dv5dp
    @Nate-dv5dp 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the amazing video. Perfect start for my day!

  • @jivkoyanchev1998
    @jivkoyanchev1998 5 лет назад +4

    An amazing video as always History Marche!! I just want to add that Kalojan probably titled himself "the Roman-slayer" after or around 1201 when he captured the town of Varna(Odessos).

  • @hpopov
    @hpopov 5 лет назад +78

    Shame that Bulgarians and Byzantians constantly fought each other while we were taken oven by the Ottomans.

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 4 года назад +6

      Try to argue with a Greek and you will know why.

    • @adityaanggaisback937
      @adityaanggaisback937 4 года назад

      @Jotaro97 how you convert them if you not hire them?

    • @ΆρωμαΜπλε
      @ΆρωμαΜπλε 3 года назад +5

      @@silafuyang8675 lmao hurts but true

    • @pyroshrimp4073
      @pyroshrimp4073 3 года назад +1

      @@ΆρωμαΜπλε shame on alexander for not accepting simeon's offer to unite

    • @Nightknight187
      @Nightknight187 3 года назад +3

      Its a shame thath we Bulgarians saving anglo-saxonia empire for hundredths of years and now they have taken the world, and we became SLAVES or slavic how they used to call us.

  • @magimon91834
    @magimon91834 2 года назад +4

    The Balkans and Anatolia in the period shortly after the 4th crusade is the coolest. People talk about different time periods being like game of thrones but this was really the one that follows that struggle best in spirit. Multiple powerful states with varied culture and style and means of warfare all fighting over the one goal. Constantinople

  • @amrtaker4561
    @amrtaker4561 4 года назад +7

    A great point of history, thnx a lot

  • @boyanbogdanov1854
    @boyanbogdanov1854 3 года назад +6

    Guys, do you realize that Enrico Dandolo might have literally been the oldest person alive at that time.....

  • @atanasarnaudov8253
    @atanasarnaudov8253 5 лет назад +16

    Curiously the Battle of Adrianople gives us a rough idea of the speed of a light horseman vs a knight - the Cumans stopped their retreat 3 times because the Latins were falling behind.

    • @neutralfellow9736
      @neutralfellow9736 5 лет назад

      Not really, it would be nonsensical for them to willingly engage in melee combat with the heavy knights(it would cause massive casualties for them), yet they did, twice, meaning the knights caught up with them. It is just that the skilled Cumans managed to break off and repeat the flight.

    • @1Guy12
      @1Guy12 5 лет назад +1

      The Greek and Persian armies were far superior to western armies.The only advantage of the western forces was the killing machine of the knight.The Persians and the Greeks/Romans had a military tradition according to the enemy the terrain and the quality of their troops, under these factors they chose the best plan and the shock troops were only to secure the battle, the Latins should keep their heavy horsemen until the battle was in their favorable terrain, they should abandon the siege and retreat to a good terrain waiting for Kaloyan to come, if not, then the city would be in danger to besieged once again...Riding because you are strong is as stupid as it fits to wild animals.The crusaders did it in Dorryleum and they were lucky to have reserves to save their ass.The french crusaders did it in the battle of Varna, ignoring the better experienced in tactics Hungarians and losing their heads.With that kind of stupidity isn't a surprise to me that England conquered the half world in 4 centuries.Surpisingly the british were extremely careful, efficient, well studied, independent and used their armed forces to win with diplomacy and not to deplete their time and money costly forces for pride.That is why a trap is always an option, victory with full numbers!

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад

      yep that worst King their Lack Tactics and low Terrain skills But didn't Order Commander yourself Army started Chase Bulgarian small cavalry horse set traps.
      Good job Bulgarian Empire Strategy.

  • @bri5490
    @bri5490 5 лет назад +4

    How coincidental, I read about this only the other day.
    The Latin Empire at Constantinople lasted from 1204-1260's. The capture of Constantinople started out during the Fourth Crusade of 1201. Pope Innocent III formulated a plan for the Crusaders to attack and Conquer Egypt, to prevent a Saracen pincer strategy of isolating the Crusader States in the Levant on three fronts. The Crusaders rendezvoused at Venice (Venice was a maritime
    naval power in the Middle Ages, along with Genoa and Pisa) Now the crafty Venetian Doge Enrico Dandolo was in secret talks with the Sultan of Egypt, Venice already had a lucrative trade with Egypt (unbeknownst to the Pope). The Sultan offered to pay and to extend trade links with Dandolo in return to divert the Crusade from Egypt, essentially to attack somewhere else.
    Now in Venice in April 1201, the Doge proposed a contract whereby Venice would build shipping to transport 4,500 knights, 9,000 men at arms and 20,000 infantry. The fee was 85,000 marks. Knowing full well the Crusaders could not afford the voyage. There was a possible deal for the Crusaders on the table.To discharge their debt by attacking the Port of Zara (in modern day Croatia) A former Venetian dependency, and was under the protection of the Kingdom of Hungary. This was against the Pope's Edict that Christians should not attack Christians. After a short siege, Zara surrendered on the understanding that garrison and inhabitants were to be spared. The place was raised to the ground. The Pope demanded the Crusaders to compensate the King of Hungary, it was ignored. The Crusaders, Franks and Venetian were excommunicated.
    Dandalo's next target was the Byzantine Empire. Alexius, son of the deposed Emperor escaped to the West seeking support to restore his father. The Crusaders agreed. When the Pope Innocent III got wind of the plan to attack Constantinople he forbade it. The Crusaders and the Venetians arrived at Constantinople in 1203. The Crusaders stormed Galata and Venetians attacked the City by sea, broke the chain across the harbour of the Golden Horn and destroyed the Byzantine fleet. On 17 July 1203 Constantinople was seized.
    Isaac II and Alexius IV became co Emperors. With their assassinations and Crusaders not paid for services rendered, vowed to take the City once again by the sword. Constantinople fell on 13 April 1204. There was three days' pillage and brutal massacre. Baldwin of Flanders was elected Emperor with support of the Venetians and crowned by Papal Legate. The Pope lost control of the crusade when Doge Dandolo had diverted it to attack Zara. The Byzantine Empire was portioned up into small Latin Duchies and Principalities. They sent up Western style feudalism . Some 6 months later Emperor Baldwin was dead, leading a small army against an invading Bulgarian army and was defeated in March 1205 outside Adrianople, taken captive and executed. Boniface of Montferrat, Baladwin's successor was also killed in battle with the Bulgarians in 1207.

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 5 лет назад +1

      In short one of the best cases of Karma in medieval history. Those "crusaders" were responsible for the eventual fall of the Empire to the Ottomans and all the Eastern European states after them.

    • @bri5490
      @bri5490 5 лет назад

      @@gabzdark07 Well internal unrest in the Byzantine Empire did not help, with civil wars and ursupations of emperors causing the decay within. Her enemies exploited this weakness. When the Crusades started in 1095, Byzantine emperors petitioned the West for aid against Arab incursions into Byzantine territory. The emperors duplicitous behaviour and double dealings with Seljuk of Rum/Turks in Anatolia and the Saracens in Egypt sowed the seeds of distrust with the Latin crusaders and decreased the enthusiasm of the crusaders to protect the Byzantine Empire. Massacres of Latins in 1182 did not help matters. The schism within the Christian Church between East and West also contributed to the Fall of the Byzantine Empire. At the Fall of Constantinople in 1453, the Byzantines was not without allies, the Republic's of Genoa and Venice sent aid, as did the Kingdom of Sicily and the Papal States. Obviously it was clearly not enough. It is history's great ifs. If the Christian Church was united and if Western Europe formed a universal military coalition against the Ottomans. Would they have been driven out of Anatolia? Restore the Byzantine Empire and capture the Holy Land permanently for the West? The possibilities were endless.

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 5 лет назад

      @@bri5490 Now imagine if the whole roman empire had staid pagan. How would things have turned out then? At first thought I think it'd have been the same, the priesthood was corrupt by then and the religion switch did little to change this.

    • @bri5490
      @bri5490 5 лет назад

      @@gabzdark07 The Western Roman Empire fell because of poor economic policies, inflation, debasing the currency, decadence and debauchery. Also recruiting Northern tribes into the Roman Legions and promising pensions to them for a life of service, had catastrophic reprecussions. But the Roman ideal survived in the Church, which in some cases made the Romans soft and complacent. Roman law survived and adopted by the very tribes that plundered, raped and pillaged the Empire, before they settled down. It was different for Britannia, it had its umbilical cord sliced off, when the Empire collapsed, with Romano-Briton inhabitants were left to fend for themselves when the Legions pulled out in 410 AD. Under the Anglo-Saxons they had to start again with there own law system and measurements. Eventually the Anglo-Saxon law evolved into the Common law under Henry II, at the same time the Continent adopted the Roman Civic law. If it was not for Saint Columba and Saint Augustine converting the Jutes, Saxons and Angles, Britain would have remained pagan.

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 5 лет назад +1

      @@bri5490 Interesting how Christianity had an initially pacifying effect over the tribes and the Empire, but that all seemed go away in the years to come. Rulers simply waged war for purely secular reasons, aside from the Crusades and the Reconquista. War was viewed in a less favorable manner, but still waged in more or less the same frenquency.

  • @loszhor
    @loszhor 5 лет назад +9

    This is why you need to respect the chain of command!

  • @ganjah789
    @ganjah789 4 года назад +2

    A very good representation of the battle of Adrianople, one of the decisive battles in history. We have prehistory, development, suspence, geography, everything that could be demanded. I also think that Kaloyan first offered peace to the Baldwin but the latter refused him because he thought that Asen brothers had been rebels and their land was Byzantine - i.e. Latin - by legal right. It was stupid and contrary to the advices of Innocent III who had just given Kaloyan king's crown recognising him as a legitimate ruler. So, we can see something like a divine judgement in this case...

    • @ganjah789
      @ganjah789 4 года назад

      @Jotaro97 it was decisive not for Bulgaria but for the IVth Crusade advancement in the region.

  • @Yana.shorts.10
    @Yana.shorts.10 5 лет назад +25

    Long live glorious Bulgarians :)

    • @andreipop5805
      @andreipop5805 5 лет назад +3

      And Vlachs

    • @podlodialgilap3490
      @podlodialgilap3490 4 года назад +2

      @@andreipop5805 No

    • @andreipop5805
      @andreipop5805 4 года назад +1

      @@podlodialgilap3490 considering Kaloyan was a Vlach

    • @tiziogg6350
      @tiziogg6350 3 года назад

      @Jotaro97 no, the Byzantine cronicles confirm that he was Vlach from the Vlach dinasty Asaneților(sorry but I don't know how to write the dinasty's name in english).

    • @dimitarbojkov7893
      @dimitarbojkov7893 3 года назад +1

      @@tiziogg6350 I know I'm a little late for the party but...
      You can't ignore that the main of these Byzantine sources you are talking about, namely Niketas Choniates, also mentioned that the Greek chronicles used to call the Vlachs, "Moesians". And as you probably know, the Byzantines used to refer to the people of the First Bulgarian tsardom as "Moesians".
      You see, it's not as simple as you make it out to be. Since the way in which the Byzantines used the term "Vlach" is rather sketchy it can be concluded that their reports should be taken with a grain of salt.
      Similarly, the other evidence which contradicts the theory that the Asens were Vlachs, like the fact that the Asen brothers claimed descent from the Krum dynasty, which was certainly not Vlach, also shouldn't be ignored.

  • @qamarahmad1432
    @qamarahmad1432 Год назад +1

    Kolayan was "Roman Slayer" after Siege of Varna in 1201 when he took the city from Eastern Romans and executed its garrison but after this battle he was actually a "Latin Slayer". For this battle it would be rightful to call him Latin Slayer or "Pale death of Latins".

  • @ZeddBG
    @ZeddBG 5 лет назад +18

    Baldwin was captured and imprisoned for life in the Bulgarian capital Tarnovo.

  • @handsome652
    @handsome652 5 лет назад +4

    its nice that you mentioned ARMENIA in the map

  • @renetio7378
    @renetio7378 2 года назад +3

    Imagine being the Doge of Venice, in his 90s and is wise, but lost in an argument against a coin

  • @Michael_______
    @Michael_______ 5 лет назад +5

    I love you HistoryMarche ⬆️♥️⬆️

  • @AshBhang2010
    @AshBhang2010 5 лет назад +3

    Perfect Ambush !! Bravo !

  • @Rossen93bg
    @Rossen93bg 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video!!!!

  • @donjasjit
    @donjasjit 5 лет назад +3

    A very well made video with a clear presentation of facts.

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 5 лет назад +2

    Great video! Love the details sound the new music too

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks KHK001! Great to see you here.

  • @Alopex1
    @Alopex1 5 лет назад +9

    Great video!
    Fittingly, may I request the earlier, cataclysmic battle of Adrianople between the Romans and the Goths in 378? :-)

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  5 лет назад +3

      Thank you sir. Yes, the earlier battle is definitely part of my plans. I wanted to do Adrianople 1205 first, because no one else has covered it. But I'll probably do the earlier one as well over the coming months.

    • @Alopex1
      @Alopex1 5 лет назад +2

      @@HistoryMarche Great! Very much looking forward to it :-) Keep up the amazing work, and thanks as always!

  • @SousouCell
    @SousouCell 3 года назад +1

    HISTORY : HOW MANY EPIC BATTLES DO YOU WANT ??
    ADRIANOPLE : YES !!!!!

  • @engrvarsi3774
    @engrvarsi3774 5 лет назад +29

    Seems like even a blind man could see farther than Louis...

  • @apetreialex6236
    @apetreialex6236 4 года назад +1

    thank you for this amazing work. As soon as I make a new squarspace payment, I am using your link

  • @InventMyTory
    @InventMyTory 5 лет назад +69

    R.I.P. Louis and his noob tactics

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад +1

      such bad actions worst you started Chase Bulgarian Empire army sets Trap kills you King and our Army But The King didn't Order Commander Yourself.

    • @aldeen9190
      @aldeen9190 5 лет назад +11

      What tactic he just pressed W on keyboard

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 5 лет назад +1

      @@aldeen9190 ahahahaha

  • @benwilliams3539
    @benwilliams3539 3 года назад +3

    I wonder how an army, in this case the cuman horse archers, are able to traverse the pit trap field they lured the knights over. Do they just know where they're dug or would they have some subtle markers showing them where not to ride?

  • @Matt-tx1tc
    @Matt-tx1tc 5 лет назад +18

    this battle is the definition of karma for the horrible treachery of the crusaders against there Byzantine crusader allies. They completely deserved it

  • @justinian-the-great
    @justinian-the-great 5 лет назад +2

    This battle is the prime example of medieval military thinking in the West vs the East. In Eastern Europe battles were fought with great arrange of tactics: with ambushes, flanking manoeuvers, sometimes even double envelopments. Meanwhile in Western Europe the tactic was mainly to charge on with heavy cavalry and infantry and hope for the breakthrough. Thus in the West the battles were mainly fought by clash of two such charges and quickly evolved into sluggish matches, while both sides attempted to push the other. Such was the strategic concept of western lords and thus whenever someone tried some other tactic the other side, that simply didn't understand any other tactic than "charge and pray for the win", would lose. That's why Westerners were almost never capable of decisively defeating the Turks in the open battle until Vienna or defeat Byzantines until the Constantinople (which wasn't open battle, but siege).

    • @jimboydejuan7869
      @jimboydejuan7869 5 лет назад

      you know fun fact Moral Story: Don't let King your our Army starts Chase Bulgarian Empire army set you Trap be killing army own but The King didn't Order Commander yourself.

    • @neutralfellow9736
      @neutralfellow9736 5 лет назад

      "That's why Westerners were almost never capable of decisively defeating the Turks in the open battle" - Erm they did, plenty of times in major battles, battle Montgisard, Battle of Iconium, battle of Arsuf etc.

  • @ЗаБаВеНСмЯх
    @ЗаБаВеНСмЯх 5 лет назад +14

    💪🏻👑🇧🇬 *The great emperor Kaloyan The Romanslayer* 🇧🇬👑💪🏻

  • @pedrocsantos8
    @pedrocsantos8 5 лет назад +1

    Another video!! I like it!! Historymarche is on fire💪🙋🙋👊

  • @thecrusaderhistorian9820
    @thecrusaderhistorian9820 5 лет назад +3

    Nice video!