@@Nicholas121093 Just because you can see the future doesn't mean you see absolutely everything. She some some, didn't see others. it's that simple.......in the end, it was Aegon's coronation that eventually led to the events of blood and cheese.
I honestly think it is poetic! The red wipes away the greens xD. If their was a dance of dragons between Viserys and Rhaenys it wouldve been the Blacks vs The Reds for sure
This feels like the equivalent of the "Ned telling Cersei" moment. Emotionally, they are both decisions meant to try and save lives and not be the one responsible for getting people killed. But logically, both are terrible choices that result in a war that will have the entire realm tearing itself apart all because each individual wanted to avoid blood on their hands.
This is why I disliked this scene. This never happened in the books. She just got on Meleys and escaped. I know they were going for something like you're saying but it makes her look like an idiot. I already know as more season come out and tragedies continue happening there's going to be a bunch of "hurhurhur Rhaenys is so dumb for not taking the chance she had." I'm sure I'll still enjoy the show but stuff like this is what makes me begin dividing a character between their book version and their tv counterpart. Like now show Rhaenys is a completely different character in my mind.
@BlitzkriegFeuerFrei I wonder if, given what happens later in the war, this scene is supposed to be what motivates Rhaenys to personally join in the fighting. Since she was in the back of her mind, she knows (especially where season one ended) that she could have stopped all of this from ever happening. So, perhaps season 2 will have her mindset framed as "I have to make up for my mistake"
@@BlitzkriegFeuerFreiif the spectacle was so important, all they needed was to have Sunfire in the hall too. All goes exactly as it does here, only the reason for her not nuking them is that it's a stalemate with two huge dragons.
@@gamerguy19981that could have made sense, but literally the next thing she does after this scene is fly to Rhaenyra, declare for her, and then persuade Corlys to do the same. It may have made sense if she'd flown to Rhaenyra, told her what had happened and then basically said "this is the situation, fight among yourselves and keep me out of it". But she didn't.
You said bitch, though? I mean, you looked her dead in her eye sockets? I said.....(side eye left, side eye right, side eye left, right, left, does a 180° Searching the desolate, frozen landscape, checks phone to make sure he hadn't butt dialed the her)....biiiitttcch" Eta: sorry, couldn't resist lmao
You could tell there were people in the crowd who still supported Rhaenyra, they were the ones who just stood there without applauding, or who shook their heads.
The fact she doesn't seem to acknowledge what she did, no context is given to explain if she had another route of escape and the show doesn't mention this again are really making me worry about the writing in future seasons.
@@Itisoverthere-rw Agreed. All we know for sure is that there is an exterior entrance to the Dragonpit that we see many times earlier in the season that Rhaenys chose not to use.
@@AGuyCalledHarry I believe you are right. The large back doors at the back of the Pit are not visible from the inside of the dome so they are probably connected to the underground caverns.
imo this makes her the most evil character in the show so far. maybe aegon is worse due to the depths of his evil, even though its on a smaller scale, but this was just pure evil. sauron would be proud.
@@Itisoverthere-rw- It makes me worry about the writing in the show as well, since we all know this event *DOES NOT HAPPEN* in the novel. 🤦🏻♀️🙄 But the show did it anyway, all so they could have some big spectacle... making Rhaenys look terrible, in the process! They also showed Aemon One-Eye killing Lucerys "on accident" in the next episode. Which was also utter rubbish! Aemon 100% kills that boy ON PURPOSE in the source material... he even goes back home & BRAGS about it, ffs. He's a psychopath. Alicent doesn't defend Rhaenyra, or suggest that the council spare her or her children either! In the book she is fully on board w/killing them ALL, cuz she's a vile, bitter, evil woman, who doesn't care that her rapey, alcoholic, murderous son isn't fit to sit the throne. She just doesn't want Rhaenyra getting to. But the show clearly wants both sides to look "equally bad" so that the fandom can have fun picking their favorite teams in the war. They have Daemon seducing a 15yr old Rhaenyra (something that was only a rumor in the novel), AND show him killing his 1st wife too! Also something he does not do! He was still out fighting in the Stepstones when she died, and he wasn't anywhere near the woman. If the writers are going to keep making their own fanfiction like this, I'll stop watching... because I already learned my lesson with Game of Thrones & I am NOT enduring that again.
The show always glosses over the Black's crimes and exaggerate the Green's, Gotta love how the show tried to focus on Aegon hanging all the ratcatchers instead of focusing on how terrible B&C was.
Rhaenys and Meleys could have ended it all right there with one single word: DRACARYS!!! And all of Rhanerya and Daemon's enemies would have been taken out in one massive fireball! The Greens would have been annihilated and history and future of Westeros would be vastly different. Crazy. Absolutely amazing scene tho.
It would have end NOTHING ! Daeron is still alive and would have make a formidable challenge to her reign with Tessarion and the vast army from the South. The Westerlands would have rebelled immediately after the murder of Tyland Lannister and the Blacks would have simply started the war with the infamous status of kinslayers : they would have lost the support of many lords after a mass murder before fifty thousand witnesses...
@@sanjaykarthicks1226 No it's Tessarion vs Meleys + Caraxes + a sweet princess too lazy (or too coward) to use a dragon + Four big salamandras. More seriously, dragons aren't everything in a war. There are plenty of other settings. A dragon is not invulnerable, Dorne and the Triarchy have proven. A dragon cannot be in several places at the same time, a dragon cannot feed armies or pay mercenaries. The Greens have more men, more resources, more influence. If the Dance of the Dragons proves anything, it's that owning dragons is no guarantee of safety.
That little nod from Helaena . . . I have two theories. One, she might have been encouraging Rhaenys to go ahead and fire on all of them. Two, I think she also might have felt some odd satisfaction knowing that her prophecy was true, and there really was a beast beneath the boards.
If you listen to Helena whenever she’s on screen she predicts what’s going to happen I put it all together when I seen this scene and heard her say there’s a beast beneath the boards
The best performance in this scene is Aegon getting pumped when just a few minutes before he was dreading being King. He finally feels important and powerful after his father overlooked him for 20 years . . . it is too good for him to pass up. He is so arbitrary and unfit for the throne and I love it. People s*** on the Greens and on Aegon, but he is an extremely interesting character and Tom Glynn-Carney does a fantastic job.
@@robertcurtislorenzenjr7153 I loved that- right now he is a coward and a total hedonist. He may grow out of the cowardice . . . the hedonism? Nah. He's gonna be a disgusting shit for as long as he lives lmao.
@@kf338 Yeah, don't think it needs to be looked at literally. Besides, the show is leading you to think she was talking about the dragon...the beast beneath the boards that she's really talking about is coming in S2 😏
@@lamadoo The comments sections really shows you how nobles and royals did all the horrible things they did in history. Look at them, hundreds of innocent people are killed and all the commentors care about is the drama it causes the Royals.
Even though most people are team black, there are several things happening in this scene which might cause someone to feel compassion for the greens. 1) Otto orders the doors of the Dragonpit open so the small folk can escape. 2) Alicent orders Cole to leave her and protect Heleana. 3) Alicent protects Aegon with her body. Rhynaes is a mother and so she might have been moved one mother to another.
Raenys not killing every here is totally in character. She still thinks she can get these idiots to back down and get everything she wants especially since Aegons coronation hardly counts as a grand victory with all those people dead.
In character? Yes, if her character is being retarded. They CANNOT back down, even if they wanted to. Crowning Aegon is a declaration of war to the death. There is no rational excuse for Rhaenys' choice here.
Yeeahh and it makes no sense.... A slaughter of this scale would and should impact the story of Fire and Blood, at the very least the Greens should use it for their war propaganda, but no, probably won't even get a mention next season.
@@robbomegavlkafenryka6158 'You had the temperament to rule', even Rhaenys knew Allicent was failing to BS a BS'er in that scene and this just proves it.
@Robb Omega Vlka Fenryka imprisoned against her will by for blackmail, manages to escape her unjust imprisonment and shows them all she could have ruined them for it but chooses temperance and mercy. Yeah. Totally unfit for a ruler. Lol
It doesn't bother me nearly as much as when I first watched it, where I got the impression that Rhaenys was having Meleys smashing people deliberately, but I'll still be glad to see the consequences of this in one of the later Seasons with the dragon pit.
@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Well apparently dragons are sometimes more intelligent than humans in GOT, said by some people including Tyrion in the show, but overall, dragons and how much they can think is inconsistent.
Why did she went through all that trouble entering the throne room killing a number of people on the way and not give the killing blow to the group of people that matters?
They have no idea how to handle the power they so desperately seek. Otto screaming to keep the door open and no one is listening. Aegon hiding behind his mother. Pathetic.
Alicent moved in front of her child to shield him. What should Aegon have done, shove his mother aside and jumped at the dragon? Greens knew they couldn't do anything. There was no point but to just wait for Rhaenys to kill them or leave. Alicent followed her motherly instinct by protecting her child.
Maybe you should face a dragon, and then we’ll see how you do. Also, she went in front of him, he didn’t run back and cry behind his mother’s back, hell he stood almost perfectly still the entire time. Also, the person you’re rooting for probably killed dozens of people when she broke through the ground with her dragon, so some food for thought.
@@acrazysheepdog1555 he did cry out behind her and closed his eyes. And they’re royalty they all have blood on their hands. One doesn’t become king or Queen without blood.
I think Rahnaeys spared them because of Allicent. Not only did she have a soft corner for her, when she saw that Allicent was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for her son - she turned away
and would have proved before fifty thousand witnesses that the Blacks are worse than Maegor the Cruel. Half of Westeros would immediately rally Daeron to Oldtown, the other half would immediately abandon the cause of Rhaenyra...
Drogon did symbolism on his own, which is why it was dumb, because dragons dont understand symbolism. Rhaenys was not a mad queen however, she just wants to be left alone.
@@yossi7765 And I'm sure Rhaenyra really appreciated that her aunt didn't put to the flame all the traitors so that the war would be over swiftly and none of her children would be brutally murdered just because she "wanted to be left alone"...Oh wait.
@@CatwithaKnife12 while also murdering countless smallfolk. In the books, it's a plot point that Tywin isn't loved in Kings Landing because he sacked it like, 17 years prior... This whole sequence should be huge for how the commoners view that side of the conflict, but it just sort of gets glossed over...
@@TheWorldBelowDnD @sebastianwillows Clearly killing small folk is not a concern of hers considering how she's most definetly murdered a few hundred of them by bursting out of the floor on dragon back. Regardless of whether yes or no this scene was in the book this scene is idiotic. Both in accords to the character and the story
When everyone was looking up at meleys and rhenys in disbelief after rhenys decided not to burn them to crisp, rhenys should've been like "SIKE bitch jk... DRACARYS!!!!".. Wasted opportunity
They were loyal to daemon the gold cloaks I think they were trying to prevent anyone from leaving so rhaenys could kill them and nobody would be able to see if she made that choice. That’s why they weren’t following otto’s orders nor will they in the future. A Hightower tries to take control as leader of the gold cloaks and they just turned around and said “daemon Targaryen gave us these cloaks” we are only loyal to him and kills the Hightower.
I think they were trying to keep Rhaenys from escaping. They received word from the Hightower’s to keep Meraxys and Rhaenys under guard because they didn’t want her to leave and give the Blacks a head’s up. If you rewatch the scene, Rhaenys looks towards the doors as they’re closing it, almost wondering if she’ll make it out in time. Those doors were built for the Dragon Pit- they were reinforced to prevent Dragons like Balerion from escaping.
its tragic to see both Daemon and Aemond, second sons who embodied what it meant to be Valyrian Dragonlords, never get the opportunity to rule. Either of them would have built a new Valyria out of Westeros.
They were made to conquer, not to rule. If you think they would have made good kings you’ve missed a major point of the entire book series and both shows.
It's incredible how many comments don't realize she just slaughtered houndreds of innocents and pretend she is being a nice girl here I guess if they aren't named character the average drooling viewer doesn't realize this, nor do the writers considering this is never acknowledged ever again.
So Rhaenys is happy to kill innocents to escape but not kill the people who 1- imprisoned her 2- kill the people who imprisoned her and prevent a war that will save TENS OF THOUSANDS of lives. Spectacle over substance was one of the biggest issues people had with the latter seasons of game of thrones. And before anyone thinks to say “her respect for Alicent as a mother stopped her” just think how many mothers she’s just killed trying to escape. Such a BS ending to an otherwise superb episode and amazing season so far.
yeah, i agree, this was a weird narrative. it's obviously cool or whatever, but she definitely could have done something more noteworthy like burn a fleet, take out the gates, or damage the dragonpit.
Yeah, but that would ignited the war sooner, because the allies of the Greens would march their armies against the blacks after hearing about this, and after all what she lost, Rhaenys wont be the one to throw the first stone, that was a warning shoot, that the Greens didn't listen.
Otto pretty clearly ordered not to seal the doors. Also I think the Blacks would get more backlash, considering one of their main supporters just killed hundreds of innocent bystanders in a coronation.
I mean, Otto was screaming for them to let the people out while goldcloaks who are known to be loyal to Daemon seal them in while Rhaenys one of Rhaenyra's strongest allys is literally killing them. If I was a peasant, I'd side with the Greens on this one.
This is just stupid. She could end the war right there before it started. War where her own grandchildren are targeted. And do nothing. Totally out of her character and any logic. Looks like "cool but fool" is rule now.
@augustusasper97 Ummmm........not to be a kinslayer (She's a cousin of the greens from what I gather) and, as a mother, she sympathizes with Alicent who bravely shields her son.
@@Keram-io8hv It's episode 4 of season 2 and Rhaenyra hasn't even left Dragonstone, while Aegon has already managed to participate in an actual battle (even though it was foolish of him).
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Olivia Cooke's acting is phenomenal! the way her eyes express every single emotion... stunning
Anyone else wish that the dragons tail smacked the king wacker in the head?
Couldn’t agree more
Our girl
0:12 Helaena didn't even want to look at Aegon being crown. She knows that crown will only bring them suffering.
"When you become King, you would lose two legs."
Blood and cheese prove Helaena doesn't know shit.
@@Nicholas121093 Just because you can see the future doesn't mean you see absolutely everything. She some some, didn't see others. it's that simple.......in the end, it was Aegon's coronation that eventually led to the events of blood and cheese.
@@kninezbanks And the murder of Luke
@@Nicholas121093She dreams, she doesn’t see exact outcomes. What you think dragon dreamers has the power of Paul, Leto 2 or Genimma Atredis?
"Beware the beast beneath the boards"Targaryen, Helena. 2022.
She wasn’t talking about the dragon. I won’t spoil anything but it’s something so much worse
Indeed, now the beast has awaken.
@@BIastwave. lies
@@BIastwave. please spoil it i must know! ☹️
This is not the beast.
The Queen That Never Was burns The King That Never Should Have Been. Would've been pure poetry that they would make songs about
im guessing English isn't your first language dude?
@@danielwhittaker695 why
@@danielwhittaker695 good talk mate
I honestly think it is poetic! The red wipes away the greens xD. If their was a dance of dragons between Viserys and Rhaenys it wouldve been the Blacks vs The Reds for sure
@@psychojoe4764 Why are all the first letters in caps lmao.
Meleys roar is amazing! That screech that turns to an unbelievably loud roar echoing throughout the dragonpit gave me chills! Great job HOD!!!
This feels like the equivalent of the "Ned telling Cersei" moment. Emotionally, they are both decisions meant to try and save lives and not be the one responsible for getting people killed. But logically, both are terrible choices that result in a war that will have the entire realm tearing itself apart all because each individual wanted to avoid blood on their hands.
This is why I disliked this scene. This never happened in the books. She just got on Meleys and escaped. I know they were going for something like you're saying but it makes her look like an idiot. I already know as more season come out and tragedies continue happening there's going to be a bunch of "hurhurhur Rhaenys is so dumb for not taking the chance she had." I'm sure I'll still enjoy the show but stuff like this is what makes me begin dividing a character between their book version and their tv counterpart. Like now show Rhaenys is a completely different character in my mind.
@BlitzkriegFeuerFrei I wonder if, given what happens later in the war, this scene is supposed to be what motivates Rhaenys to personally join in the fighting. Since she was in the back of her mind, she knows (especially where season one ended) that she could have stopped all of this from ever happening. So, perhaps season 2 will have her mindset framed as "I have to make up for my mistake"
THIS!!!!!
@@BlitzkriegFeuerFreiif the spectacle was so important, all they needed was to have Sunfire in the hall too. All goes exactly as it does here, only the reason for her not nuking them is that it's a stalemate with two huge dragons.
@@gamerguy19981that could have made sense, but literally the next thing she does after this scene is fly to Rhaenyra, declare for her, and then persuade Corlys to do the same.
It may have made sense if she'd flown to Rhaenyra, told her what had happened and then basically said "this is the situation, fight among yourselves and keep me out of it". But she didn't.
I NEVER WANTED TO HEAR DRACARYS SO FUCKING BADLY!!
Same
Seriously!!!!
Rhaenys will come to regret that she didn't do that when she could.
Yes! I just commented on another thread on here about how that’s the only thing wrong with this scene imo 😂😂
Right?!
Caraxes: So they crowned the whelp eh? What did you say at the coronation?
Meleys: I Said BIIIIIIITCH!
But you actually said the word bitch though right
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha 😅😅😅. This shouldn't be this funny.
I struggled between the Key and Peele Biiiitch sketch and the Monty Python's "well, I didn't vote for him!"
You said bitch, though? I mean, you looked her dead in her eye sockets?
I said.....(side eye left, side eye right, side eye left, right, left, does a 180° Searching the desolate, frozen landscape, checks phone to make sure he hadn't butt dialed the her)....biiiitttcch"
Eta: sorry, couldn't resist lmao
You could tell there were people in the crowd who still supported Rhaenyra, they were the ones who just stood there without applauding, or who shook their heads.
And they were not spared by the murderess on the dragon.
@@MusMasi They were spared from being burned alive later during the Dance.
Also, how do you know they're dead? They might just be injured.
The first time since Aegon conquest that the common folk began to fear dragons again.
I also love how alicents expression as she watches rhanys escape. She’s like “oh fuck. We’re done for.”
Rhaenys committing a literal war crime without batting a single eyelash. What a boss
The fact she doesn't seem to acknowledge what she did, no context is given to explain if she had another route of escape and the show doesn't mention this again are really making me worry about the writing in future seasons.
@@Itisoverthere-rw Agreed. All we know for sure is that there is an exterior entrance to the Dragonpit that we see many times earlier in the season that Rhaenys chose not to use.
@@AGuyCalledHarry I believe you are right. The large back doors at the back of the Pit are not visible from the inside of the dome so they are probably connected to the underground caverns.
imo this makes her the most evil character in the show so far. maybe aegon is worse due to the depths of his evil, even though its on a smaller scale, but this was just pure evil. sauron would be proud.
@@Itisoverthere-rw- It makes me worry about the writing in the show as well, since we all know this event *DOES NOT HAPPEN* in the novel. 🤦🏻♀️🙄 But the show did it anyway, all so they could have some big spectacle... making Rhaenys look terrible, in the process!
They also showed Aemon One-Eye killing Lucerys "on accident" in the next episode. Which was also utter rubbish!
Aemon 100% kills that boy ON PURPOSE in the source material... he even goes back home & BRAGS about it, ffs. He's a psychopath.
Alicent doesn't defend Rhaenyra, or suggest that the council spare her or her children either! In the book she is fully on board w/killing them ALL, cuz she's a vile, bitter, evil woman, who doesn't care that her rapey, alcoholic, murderous son isn't fit to sit the throne. She just doesn't want Rhaenyra getting to.
But the show clearly wants both sides to look "equally bad" so that the fandom can have fun picking their favorite teams in the war. They have Daemon seducing a 15yr old Rhaenyra (something that was only a rumor in the novel), AND show him killing his 1st wife too! Also something he does not do! He was still out fighting in the Stepstones when she died, and he wasn't anywhere near the woman.
If the writers are going to keep making their own fanfiction like this, I'll stop watching... because I already learned my lesson with Game of Thrones & I am NOT enduring that again.
They really cut Aegon riding Sunfyre scene after corronation and replace it with Rhaenys killing innocent ppl, very great
Bias is strong with this show
Yep... Dumb moment made for tiktok edits and twitter stans.
The show always glosses over the Black's crimes and exaggerate the Green's, Gotta love how the show tried to focus on Aegon hanging all the ratcatchers instead of focusing on how terrible B&C was.
We already know the two of them were terrible. Doesn't justify those actions @@akbersalim9096
Rhaenys and Meleys could have ended it all right there with one single word: DRACARYS!!! And all of Rhanerya and Daemon's enemies would have been taken out in one massive fireball! The Greens would have been annihilated and history and future of Westeros would be vastly different. Crazy. Absolutely amazing scene tho.
She is like Nedd Stark, too honourable for her own good.
It would have end NOTHING ! Daeron is still alive and would have make a formidable challenge to her reign with Tessarion and the vast army from the South. The Westerlands would have rebelled immediately after the murder of Tyland Lannister and the Blacks would have simply started the war with the infamous status of kinslayers : they would have lost the support of many lords after a mass murder before fifty thousand witnesses...
@@alessiodandolo1460 Tessarion vs Meleys+Caraxes+Syrax+ Vermax+Arrax+Tyraxes+Moondancer?
What a match
@@sanjaykarthicks1226 No it's Tessarion vs Meleys + Caraxes + a sweet princess too lazy (or too coward) to use a dragon + Four big salamandras. More seriously, dragons aren't everything in a war. There are plenty of other settings. A dragon is not invulnerable, Dorne and the Triarchy have proven. A dragon cannot be in several places at the same time, a dragon cannot feed armies or pay mercenaries. The Greens have more men, more resources, more influence. If the Dance of the Dragons proves anything, it's that owning dragons is no guarantee of safety.
@@alessiodandolo1460 tessarion vs dragons that are years old and one of the fattest (Meleys) do you know not what of you speak of!
This scene always gives me chills. It’s just so well done
Where is that scene?
It really is well done that they just killed half of Kings landing
That little nod from Helaena . . . I have two theories. One, she might have been encouraging Rhaenys to go ahead and fire on all of them. Two, I think she also might have felt some odd satisfaction knowing that her prophecy was true, and there really was a beast beneath the boards.
Didn’t notice that before, she definitely did nod!
If you listen to Helena whenever she’s on screen she predicts what’s going to happen I put it all together when I seen this scene and heard her say there’s a beast beneath the boards
I mean, they're in the dragon pit
If she’s super prophetic and knows where her story is going she probably wanted a quick death then and there lol
The best performance in this scene is Aegon getting pumped when just a few minutes before he was dreading being King. He finally feels important and powerful after his father overlooked him for 20 years . . . it is too good for him to pass up. He is so arbitrary and unfit for the throne and I love it.
People s*** on the Greens and on Aegon, but he is an extremely interesting character and Tom Glynn-Carney does a fantastic job.
And a few minutes later he is hiding behind mommy 😂
@@robertcurtislorenzenjr7153 I loved that- right now he is a coward and a total hedonist. He may grow out of the cowardice . . . the hedonism? Nah. He's gonna be a disgusting shit for as long as he lives lmao.
Yea... I am black but I liked that he was no usurper but was manipulated and forced into it. Cant wait for otto's well deserved queen's justice.
Every single Green character is so well written and interesting to watch.
I'm team Black, but I have to agree, the characters are very well written. I love it.
Helena looking on like "told you...beast beneath the boards 😏"
He is in a building though not beneath boards?
@@kf338 Yeah, don't think it needs to be looked at literally. Besides, the show is leading you to think she was talking about the dragon...the beast beneath the boards that she's really talking about is coming in S2 😏
Mannnn that particular flavour of exhultation when aegon thrusts his sword, is something unique and awesome
Helaena knows what's going to come for him now when he has that crown on his head, so she looks away.
Она знает, что будет с НЕЙ
I just thought about this. It was almost as if Rhaenys was telling her that she understood her as a mother, and, remember this, you owe me.
This scene was so stunning, I almost didn’t notice how brave it was…
yes very brave, after she trampled and killed hundreds of small folk and didn't even finish the job of killing the greens rofl
@@lamadoo The comments sections really shows you how nobles and royals did all the horrible things they did in history. Look at them, hundreds of innocent people are killed and all the commentors care about is the drama it causes the Royals.
As in Alicent was brave? Yeah.
Even though most people are team black, there are several things happening in this scene which might cause someone to feel compassion for the greens.
1) Otto orders the doors of the Dragonpit open so the small folk can escape.
2) Alicent orders Cole to leave her and protect Heleana.
3) Alicent protects Aegon with her body.
Rhynaes is a mother and so she might have been moved one mother to another.
I think rhaenys is one of my most loved characters
And is
I think shes the dumbest and most evil character in the whole show
She just killed hundreds of civilians
Often the only adult in the room.
@@leedawson8397 this was her least adult moment, turned into a mass murderer and people singing her praises. Shows how sick and twisted humans are.
Raenys not killing every here is totally in character. She still thinks she can get these idiots to back down and get everything she wants especially since Aegons coronation hardly counts as a grand victory with all those people dead.
Unfortunately, two people here won’t show such mercy in the future with their dragons…
The blacks are evil, rhaenys murdered thousands here.
Aegon will burn these mofos@@matthewriley7826
She killed several hundred people here
In character? Yes, if her character is being retarded. They CANNOT back down, even if they wanted to. Crowning Aegon is a declaration of war to the death. There is no rational excuse for Rhaenys' choice here.
Daemon, Aemond & Rhaenys are the only viable answers to the question 'Who is your favourite character in HotD?'.
My favorite thing is how she literally just kills so many people and not a single GOT watcher cares lol the biases
Welcome to game of thrones where a point of the series is how little the upper class cares about the smallfolk
@@Ashbrash1998 But don’t they like the blonde baddies cause they do care? Or are they just smitten with Aryan features?
Everyone cared lol, the fact they thought this was Rhaenys' 'heroic moment' was utter, utter biased BS lmao
It's psychology, you don't identify with the nameless peasants, you identify with the people who got the coolest dragons.
Yeeahh and it makes no sense.... A slaughter of this scale would and should impact the story of Fire and Blood, at the very least the Greens should use it for their war propaganda, but no, probably won't even get a mention next season.
4:25 compare that to the level of control Aemond has over Vhagar XD
Деймон и Рейнис - лучшие наездники.
Melys and Rhaenys' entrance was badass...
murderous and wasteful yes yes it was.
Otto is a smart man he wasn’t saying open the door for the people he was saying open the door for the Dragon to get out
Alicent had accepted her fate.
Oh well, evidently you can't die from dragon's breath.
Rhys ifans is so good. Otto is the most happy in that moment because *he* is the one that has achieved this.
the queen who should have been
This scene displays exactly why she should have never even been considered for the throne.
Not being so foolish as this. Best not to have been on the throne
@@robbomegavlkafenryka6158 'You had the temperament to rule', even Rhaenys knew Allicent was failing to BS a BS'er in that scene and this just proves it.
@Robb Omega Vlka Fenryka imprisoned against her will by for blackmail, manages to escape her unjust imprisonment and shows them all she could have ruined them for it but chooses temperance and mercy. Yeah. Totally unfit for a ruler. Lol
@@chalor182 She killed hundreds of innocent, you defend her because she's female.
It doesn't bother me nearly as much as when I first watched it, where I got the impression that Rhaenys was having Meleys smashing people deliberately, but I'll still be glad to see the consequences of this in one of the later Seasons with the dragon pit.
They FUCKED up the whole story
Why would you want to watch the dragons get slaughtered?! The dragons are forced into these idiotic conflicts by their riders.....
@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Well apparently dragons are sometimes more intelligent than humans in GOT, said by some people including Tyrion in the show, but overall, dragons and how much they can think is inconsistent.
Great casting for Aegon. He's just as sullen faced as his book counterpart.
Why did she went through all that trouble entering the throne room killing a number of people on the way and not give the killing blow to the group of people that matters?
Here in Brazil we call that Green's moment of "Trancou o cú" and it sounds like "Locked the asshole" KKKK
Mekeys us,a gorgeous dragon, very graceful and that huge spikes it has around its head givevit a peculiar look!
This shows Black Team are the real villains.
3:53 Look at how Aemond is standing. He's ready to fight a *dragon* to save himself and his family.
And his ass would lose.
@@chalor182 Oh, definitely. But I would've liked to see him try.
He would’ve lose especially if it was just him and rhaeyns.
Once he has his dragon, he’ll teach her the value of finishing what you start.
@@matthewriley7826 she didn't start anything though
Aegon's entrance was dramatic than the dragon destroying the pit
This has to be one of the best scenes in any tv show. Had nothing but chills when I first saw it.
They have no idea how to handle the power they so desperately seek. Otto screaming to keep the door open and no one is listening. Aegon hiding behind his mother. Pathetic.
Alicent moved in front of her child to shield him. What should Aegon have done, shove his mother aside and jumped at the dragon? Greens knew they couldn't do anything. There was no point but to just wait for Rhaenys to kill them or leave. Alicent followed her motherly instinct by protecting her child.
Maybe you should face a dragon, and then we’ll see how you do. Also, she went in front of him, he didn’t run back and cry behind his mother’s back, hell he stood almost perfectly still the entire time. Also, the person you’re rooting for probably killed dozens of people when she broke through the ground with her dragon, so some food for thought.
@@acrazysheepdog1555 he did cry out behind her and closed his eyes. And they’re royalty they all have blood on their hands. One doesn’t become king or Queen without blood.
Самое ироничное, что драконы зелёных не рвутся защищать своих всадников, как это сделал бы тот же Караксес
I mean neither does Rhaenyra lets be real if the crown was decided by merit it would be Lionel strong, Otto, or Aemond on the throne
For a second I thought the crown looked too big 😂
how to destroy any support you could get in the king landing(and possibely a big chunk of the crownlands) in 10 seconds
The way he flew out of.. flappy Bird level 86
Alicent going from standing between Aegon and a dragon to protect him to selling him out a couple months later is wild. What a change in character
Loved this dragon definitely the most intimidating i think.He has like a collar if spikes
She's nicknamed the red queen, for a reason
All those innocent people dead but the main big bad guys are left okay 😂😂😂
Helaena's face after Memeys and Rhaenys Enter the room!!! That girl is excited to see what happens!! 👏👏👏
This dragon is the coolest looking one ever
Caraxes looks much cooler
No Wail till we see Sunfyre! I cannot wait for that
"Cool" is highly subjective. But HOTD's visual effects artists have done splendidly making each dragon unique and distinctive, unlike the GOT dragons.
@@danieldickson8591 that’s there opinion
Ah yes, nothing endears the commoners to your cause like trampling a bunch of them with your dragon.
Meleys is fucking badass looking bro
So many great actors in HOD
Leaving through the floor was the only way to go, lol so dramatic🎉
Cannot wait for Rhaenyra's death scene when killed by Aegon's dragon in front of her own son
She truly fkin deserves it in the show after doing this
Lmao the black team still won so
She couldve prevented the war right there
Targeryans with dragons: God's
Targaryans without dragons: fodder
I think Rahnaeys spared them because of Allicent. Not only did she have a soft corner for her, when she saw that Allicent was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for her son - she turned away
What was the point of killing all those people? And not the main targets?
She needed to escape somehow ig
Rhaenys should have burned them all.
and would have proved before fifty thousand witnesses that the Blacks are worse than Maegor the Cruel. Half of Westeros would immediately rally Daeron to Oldtown, the other half would immediately abandon the cause of Rhaenyra...
That's the ironborn way.
This is very akin to the end of GOT with Drogon burning down the iron throne, doing something utterly idiotic for the sake of symbolism...
Drogon did symbolism on his own, which is why it was dumb, because dragons dont understand symbolism. Rhaenys was not a mad queen however, she just wants to be left alone.
@@yossi7765 And I'm sure Rhaenyra really appreciated that her aunt didn't put to the flame all the traitors so that the war would be over swiftly and none of her children would be brutally murdered just because she "wanted to be left alone"...Oh wait.
@@CatwithaKnife12 while also murdering countless smallfolk.
In the books, it's a plot point that Tywin isn't loved in Kings Landing because he sacked it like, 17 years prior... This whole sequence should be huge for how the commoners view that side of the conflict, but it just sort of gets glossed over...
@@TheWorldBelowDnD @sebastianwillows Clearly killing small folk is not a concern of hers considering how she's most definetly murdered a few hundred of them by bursting out of the floor on dragon back. Regardless of whether yes or no this scene was in the book this scene is idiotic. Both in accords to the character and the story
D&D are proud. Stupid TV entertainment, always killing logic.
Meleys is my favorite dragon.
When everyone was looking up at meleys and rhenys in disbelief after rhenys decided not to burn them to crisp, rhenys should've been like "SIKE bitch jk... DRACARYS!!!!".. Wasted opportunity
Aemond: you are no King!
Rhaenys is so badass. She's in my top 3 favorite characters.
Can anyone explain to me why they were trying to close the gates instead of open them? Did Rhaenys have a deal with the guards or something?
I think it's just understandable panic.
@@andyhoover8531 lol wut
They were Daemon soldiers.....look at their golden clothing
They were loyal to daemon the gold cloaks I think they were trying to prevent anyone from leaving so rhaenys could kill them and nobody would be able to see if she made that choice. That’s why they weren’t following otto’s orders nor will they in the future. A Hightower tries to take control as leader of the gold cloaks and they just turned around and said “daemon Targaryen gave us these cloaks” we are only loyal to him and kills the Hightower.
I think they were trying to keep Rhaenys from escaping. They received word from the Hightower’s to keep Meraxys and Rhaenys under guard because they didn’t want her to leave and give the Blacks a head’s up. If you rewatch the scene, Rhaenys looks towards the doors as they’re closing it, almost wondering if she’ll make it out in time. Those doors were built for the Dragon Pit- they were reinforced to prevent Dragons like Balerion from escaping.
That one word and the enitre plot for the House of the dragons changes
Rhaenys is the best character!! ❤
She just killed hundreds.
Just one word would have spared their house & the kingdom so much trouble.
"Open the Doors"
You heard the man soldiers: "Hold the Door"
How many Aegon Targaryens are there? Aegon the conqueror, this dude, Jon Snow.
*Tail randomly kills everybody else but kills no main character on the stage*
Rhaenys: "I'd love to kill you all right here and now but we got 2 more seasons and sadly more people and dragons on both sides have to die"
The greens cowering in fear 👏👏
Rhaenys had the chance to stop the war before it even started by killing the greens 😂
They will blame Rhaenys killing civillians on patriarchy
The score in this damn show 💋🤌🏻 utter PERFECTION
its tragic to see both Daemon and Aemond, second sons who embodied what it meant to be Valyrian Dragonlords, never get the opportunity to rule. Either of them would have built a new Valyria out of Westeros.
As much of a pedo and asshole daemon was, he was badass and definitely fit to rule, aemond would've been a great pick as well.
They were made to conquer, not to rule. If you think they would have made good kings you’ve missed a major point of the entire book series and both shows.
They should have married themselves. That would be an alliance, women will destroy the realm, if you let them.
It's incredible how many comments don't realize she just slaughtered houndreds of innocents and pretend she is being a nice girl here
I guess if they aren't named character the average drooling viewer doesn't realize this, nor do the writers considering this is never acknowledged ever again.
Same fans were happy when mad queen destroyed King's Landing
People are just unhinged
I don’t care what anyone says… Rhaenys looks attractive as hell suited up in her dragon rider armor. And I’m 30
Now that’s what I call Statement!🔥.
I always thought that Aegon the Conqueror's very first crown was a red ruby studded shape ring.
I can’t stop thinking about sherk
You can tell Rhaenys by the way she barely opened her mouth to say dracarys.
Oh Rhaenys ☹. Just one word!!
I thought GoT was dead with the 8th season. Looks like there's still competent people in the crew.
Noncanon stupid scene that never happened in the books.
true i just pretand it didnt happened
So Rhaenys is happy to kill innocents to escape but not kill the people who
1- imprisoned her
2- kill the people who imprisoned her and prevent a war that will save TENS OF THOUSANDS of lives.
Spectacle over substance was one of the biggest issues people had with the latter seasons of game of thrones. And before anyone thinks to say “her respect for Alicent as a mother stopped her” just think how many mothers she’s just killed trying to escape. Such a BS ending to an otherwise superb episode and amazing season so far.
Nobles don't care about the lives of the smallfolk.
@@Letkharable maybe not, but they care a lot less about the lives of the people who held them captive. Fact.
yeah, i agree, this was a weird narrative. it's obviously cool or whatever, but she definitely could have done something more noteworthy like burn a fleet, take out the gates, or damage the dragonpit.
When dragons get involved almost always innocents die.
To be fair she tried to convince her husband not to declare for either side. She wanted to stay out of it completely and just move on with her life.
The first Show up of the red queen
You cannot say Alicent didn’t love her kids she stepped in from to Aegon though that would do little to protect him
This is the baddest bitch thing I have ever seen
DRACARYS them all
Yeah, but that would ignited the war sooner, because the allies of the Greens would march their armies against the blacks after hearing about this, and after all what she lost, Rhaenys wont be the one to throw the first stone, that was a warning shoot, that the Greens didn't listen.
She killed innocents but you like it because it's girl power 🤡
She killed hundreds of of civilians
How much loyalty did the people owe the greens if they were willingly sealing them in with a full grown dragon?
THIS!!!!!!!
Otto pretty clearly ordered not to seal the doors. Also I think the Blacks would get more backlash, considering one of their main supporters just killed hundreds of innocent bystanders in a coronation.
@@adamboh393 they won’t face that backlash at all but the greens did when they killed a lord.
@@adamboh393 but nobody was killed though
Because we didn't see a dead body
I mean, Otto was screaming for them to let the people out while goldcloaks who are known to be loyal to Daemon seal them in while Rhaenys one of Rhaenyra's strongest allys is literally killing them. If I was a peasant, I'd side with the Greens on this one.
To me, Heleana was nervous, you can see it in the background. When Aegon turned to face the crowd, Heleana was fidgeting and kept looking down.
If Aegon ii was Maegor the cruel, Aegon iii would’ve been in sunfyre’s belly.
This is just stupid. She could end the war right there before it started. War where her own grandchildren are targeted. And do nothing. Totally out of her character and any logic. Looks like "cool but fool" is rule now.
Yes but 9 episodes is too short. For a show.
@@kronoscamron7412 One reason more to not add just nonsensical scene.
but it was mothers respect
@@gaichimaru9514: Maybe, but it was madness and stupidity. And borderline treason.
@augustusasper97 Ummmm........not to be a kinslayer (She's a cousin of the greens from what I gather) and, as a mother, she sympathizes with Alicent who bravely shields her son.
I have a bias, but I loved this scene. Is it problematic? Yes. Do I care? No.
The fact that Aegon hid behind his mother shows he wasn't strong enough for the throne.
Facts. He coward like the little prince he is. His brother had more balls then him.
While Rhaenyra used her bastards as meat shields? So stunning and brave
@@Keram-io8hv It's episode 4 of season 2 and Rhaenyra hasn't even left Dragonstone, while Aegon has already managed to participate in an actual battle (even though it was foolish of him).
But he didn't hide... his mother moved in front of him.
wait wait wait how did a dragon break out of an enclosure specifically built to hold dragons inside???
Dragons can't be controlled... They were living as there
Im so glad cole gets mercked in the books