Its also bullying and manipulation. All forms of abuse and control. But that's where we get to the core of the issue here. It's control. Always. Control
They’re all narcissists. Literally being a politician is just being an actor that instead of movies they act out by peddling lies and then sitting on those lies until they can somehow turn it to gold. Nowadays probably 99.2% of all politicians are narcissists that’s just plain fact. You watch these people argue on TV And then they all go out after for a couple of beers and laugh at how good their performance was and what suckers we are as citizens.
"I rose up and defended my community and democracy itself." That sure sounds like narcissism to me. He believes he has special rights. Nope, same rights and same rules.
@@chrish3274 I also can't see how she is defending democracy by limiting parents' rights to decide whether their minor children can access medication and significant surgeries that have irreversible consequences.
@@seekthetruthfindit6879 This week in Oregon they passed just that... (My home state and where I reside). Now mothers will have to co-parent with the state, and if they don't they can go to jail for interfering. For the actual safety and welfare of our children? We need to boot these creeps out. They're bullies. They bully those who don't know better by accusing them of being phobic if they don't agree. It's textbook emotional manipulation, which is also another narcissist trait.
This is so ironic coming from the mouth of an AMERICAN. Weren't the ones who rebelled against the British Empire, setting your nation independent, "MISBEHAVING"?
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Something is very wrong when individuals make themselves out as "a victim". But this is what these people do. They don't like the rules because they can't do what they want. The thing to do then is to change the rules. Like a 3 y.o. throwing a tantrum.
The only pain they have they bring on themselves. When you chop off body parts it's painful im sure. But that's your choice. I had my leg cut off and yeah it changed everything but i'm not a victim. I refused to be a victim. I've had many complications that have shortened my life even but I work with what I'm given and do thr best I can. I don't expect everyone else to change for me or to help me. If everyone treated equal then nobody is treated as special. This is what we need to get back to is treated everyone the same no matter the color or choices. But not letting them go after kids.The kids in fact are very special. For many reasons but the only way they can be safe is if we keep them safe.
If you choose the selfish act of suicide then you are a selfish bastard. If you have children you choose to leave behind you are even worse.. my brother chose the very easy way out one morning after his two young sons went off to school.. if it wasn't for me returning to my brother's house on lunch break to get a tablet and charger that I had left there the night before the next to little humans through the front door to find the awful mess that he chose to make would have been his two innocent little children.. I do not care, I do not care your situation in life suicide is never the acceptable choice and it is a choice.
I agree, but to be clear, he still has his power but he has to vote remotely. Because all he did was disrupt the house proceedings he was banned. Sadly he was voted in basically by the Missoula college so they will probably keep voting in idiots.
In the last ten years, it seems they put all the crazies in power.... We must remember that these weirdos are a very small percentage of the population, but lately they get all the attention
This is an actual legislative body, not a university auditorium. The consequences of a mob takeover are very real in this chamber. They don't just disrupt a discussion, they disrupt the actual adult activity of operating a government. This institution _cannot function_ without the proper decorum, which is simply another way of saying the proper respect.
Children don't need protection from things their parents find offensive, they need guidance and support from their parents and they need to be exposed to different things and people. Making your kids feel pressure to persecute people and make uninformed choices is not good parenting
@@VigilanteAss "So what if a grown man is stripping in front of your child! They need to be "exposed" to ThAt!!!" Great argument. You have no idea what planet you're on.
College of Obstetrics and Gyn: "The regulations prohibit sterilization of women younger than 21 years and of women with mental disabilities, require waiting periods between the time of consent and the sterilization procedure (currently, a 30-day waiting period), and require the use of a standardized consent form 22."
There is clearly an agenda being forced upon a nation. The venom and hatred when reasonable issues like stopping adult males allowed in high school showers of the women is appalling. The safety and mental health of the kids must always come first. The greater the shock value is, the louder they fight. In reality, a transgender female who wants to be looked at as a girl who is 18 would not desire to shower and expose adult male genitalia to 14 year old girls in the shower. May I ask who wants to be the parent who has to try to deal with the trauma those girls experienced. The trauma can't be undone or the violation those young girls felt. If wanting to be accepted as a female was important, their actions stand in stark contrast. Books with porn, young children introduced to up to 60 pronouns, encouraging gender change in schools without parents knowledge. These are all agendas that do not make anyone feel inclusive in nature. Forcing 98 percent of the population to change basic human anatomy science and knowledge is way past asking to be accepted, it is to confuse and cause division of the society. They aren't asking for acceptance, they are demanding humanity do things their way. That is an agenda and our children need to be protected against those who are so hostile.
This is not even about the children anymore, this is flat out degeneration of our current society! These people need to be admitted into a mental hospital, they are mentally unstable.
Boo hoo, I acted ridiculous, got in trouble, and now I'm going to gaslight and throw buzzwords out to try and get out of it. It's about time these people suffer the consequences of their ridiculous behavior!
They always talk about how the bill "banned gender affirming care." The fact is it regulates it for citizens under the age of 18. Just like we have age limits on various other things that could have long lasting effects. You can't let children make these decisions. Parents who consent to it are just being convinced by their child, which means they are weak minded and lack strong will. You aren't being a parent, you are trying to be the "cool adult" or "understanding adult" to these children. Every "cool adult" I ever met was a little creepy.
In all honesty, this is actually good. It prevents poor decisions made by young kids. It still DOES allow care to minors, but with stipulations. The minor must meet certain requirements and be seen by two different qualified doctors and be diagnosed with gender dysphoria
There was a time that “cutting” was a sign of self-harm and of great concern. So now we have medical professionals that “cut ”children and we call it good and affirming and compassionate.
April User. Yes. There was a time when birthing was a beautiful time. "It's a BOY!" "It's a GIRL!" Now it belongs to "experts." "I'm sorry but your boy feels like a girl, and your girl is really a boy inside. Science has moved on." They're mad as hatters.
Quite simply, you don't get to do whatever you want just because you feel passionate about your cause. They don't want fairness and equality, they want special privilege's to be disruptive. They believe the rules don't apply to them.
The rules apparently, apply to her but not other legislatures who breached the same rules but worse. I swear, none of you actually watched the video, lol
@@nichkey5315And you're represented by a bunch of bullies trying to persecute a minority population who are too cowardly to hear dissent from their colleagues and constituents.
@@janeclayton151 The world outside of the US/UK/EU is not like this. They're all laughing at us right now. Suspiciously the people who are pushing for this hard are also sleeping with Chinese spies. Also suspiciously TikTok, a Chinese company is actually nothing like the TikTok we have here in the US.
Honestly curious which part of this bill "gets people killed?" Isn't this simply a bill that says if you want to mutilate your body you pay for it yourself? I'm not sure how that "kills" Zooey's "people." Please show your work, Rep. Zephyr.
They're gnostic transhumanists. They believe that they're only "alive" and "human" if they have transcended their bodies. Gnostic transhumanists have unusual definitions of words.
This is the constant rhetoric we get. These people are holding _themselves_ hostage, and threatening to end themselves if they don't get their way, then saying that it will be our fault that they made this choice. Look, I've been suicidally depressed at two points in my life. I had many reasons to be angry and resentful, but had I gone through with it, the _only_ and I repeat _only_ person responsible for my decision would be ME. I was childish for thinking otherwise. I'm tired of being held hostage by people wanting to blame me for their bad decisions.
Why are they not paying for people who are dying of cancer, surely that should come before changing sex, or people who have disabilities and cannot afford ops, they should get free care, but nooo, it's got to be about them, pay for it yourself, get a job if it's that bad, let really ill people get surgery for free
The real mental illness in this discussion are the people who think a child or the parents of that child should be allowed to absolutely ravage a minor person's body with surgeries, hormones, puberty blockers, etc., etc., all of which is highly dangerous to their health and all permanent. Do as you please as an adult but children ought to be allowed to grow up and make these decisions as an adult when they have the maturity and context to understand the permeance and gravity of such decisions.
In Washington state, there is a state law banning police from interviewing anyone under 18 under any circumstances (to including murder) when arrested because the state has deemed anyone under 18 incapable of understanding their rightes, YET at the same time the state believes anyone under 18 is competent enough to get gender mutilation surgery without their parents knowledge and or even consent. Make that make sense.
Something something 'Muh Feelings' something something 'Killing us' something something. Yeah sorry, that's all I got... and honestly that's all they got too 🤣
This needs more likes, all feeling based, but if "we" argue with our feelings, we are invalidated as if we don't have feelings about our struggles? So, because the struggles are different and their feelings matter more because of a lack of privileges or lack of validation of those feelings, we must invalidate "our" feelings that are different to their feelings because virtuos superiority on their part? Isn't that a privilege being pushed by them inadvertently? This is circular, very similar to a religion, and I slightly consider myself religious.
Calling bullshit misinfo. Please provide evidence that children are being operated on without parental consent. That's called malpractice. Doctors have always needed the approval of a guardian for drugs and operations. No child is making this decision without loads of adult involvement and supervision.
The AMA, the American Academy of Pediatricians and the American Psychiatric Association all recommend protecting children by giving those with gender dysphoria gender affirming care.
@@terrydemoe7653 it's not only about money, it's also about a satanic cult. Its also about dehumanizing people it's about depopulation, the destruction of our culture customs and traditions. It's about sexualizing children. So yes a big part of it is money but there's a lot more to it than that.
First it was tolerance. Then inclusion. That’s where it should have stopped, but those two were never the true end game. Now it’s promotion. That is the ultimate goal and people have just about had enough and it’s starting to show.
No ,it should have stopped before tolerance. Tolerance for the Delusions of The Mentally Ill harms both the Afflicted by encouraging them not to seek treatment. And it harms others in society by trying to force them to accept a delusion as reality.
Someone who would commit suicide on listening to a legislative hearing? Mental illness needs to be seriously considered in that person. The peoples' business should not be held up by those with a mental illness.
Yeah if they are debating whether you, your doctor, and your parents have a say in your life's choices that's pretty damn distressing. Try to imagine that your own body is a source of terrible discomfort and everybody puts you into roles you hate when they see you. You know there are treatments that are supported by major medical consensus that can help and these people are up there saying no. You HAVE to live the way they want you to live and your only hope at that medical care is now criminal. Oh and you are a kid so you are utterly powerless on top of everything else. This business IS a mental health issue either way.
@@KitFoxboy as more patients are coming forward we’re learning that removing the person’s sex organs is not the “solution” to the discomfort they are experiencing. ruclips.net/video/2XjFe_O0ij0/видео.html
@@KitFoxboy Look up Detransitioners that made choices very young & regret it & start to blame Parents & Doctors for not fully explaining the ramifications that goes along with such a choice when their brains haven't even matured fully. We all make choices when we are young that we wish we hadn't. I don't care about adults transitioning, that's their right but the problem is pushing it on kids. Transgender Folks have every right that all Americans have & this issue is going too far. The suicide rate of Transgender Folks is also high among Detransitioners. The Dr's forget to tell people that they will never have children, orgasms & will have to be on hormones for the rest of their lives (Which makes Big Pharma even richer) I say, do your research. Respect others opinions.
@@KitFoxboy a hardware fix to a software problem is not the answer. The changes are NOT reversible. Gender affirmation doesn't solve the issues for most of the kids you are speaking about. It's really sad that kids are pushed, yes pushed, into believing that they are trans gender and that transitioning will solve that issue instead of focusing on the actual real problem that is going on. When the kids reach the age of consent, they can do whatever they wish to their bodies. YOU don't have a clue and I suggest you do better research before making such a statement. Listening to people who do not push the agenda would serve you well.
@@patriotgrammy8632 Bud lite was all it took. We are a silly people. Im sorry but if God doesn’t destroy America, he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.
Interesting to see how language is being seriously twisted to manipulate people. "Gender affirming care" is as meaningful as telling a tattoo parlor, who were refusing to give a 10 year old a tattoo of an upside down pentagram (or any tattoo), as a violation of a minors religious freedoms. They are so passionate about expressing themselves, but as what happened to Riley Gaines etc shows, not so respectful and tolerant of others expressing on how they are affecting HER community and personal safety. I am so sick of manipulative language calling itself ''fair''. Tired of violence when others are speaking calling itself ''democracy''. I am beyond sick of language being used to conceal truth, calling itself oppressed. These people are a fast moving cancer in society, and put others with true dysphoria in need of mental health care, lobbed in with a larger and much more violent group of autogynephiles, who are a very real danger to women AND young people of both genders. Don't get fooled by the insidious tactics of weaponized language. Speak truth at it whenever you encounter it.
I have thought often, those humans that suffer real gender dysphoria should be outraged with with what is happening in society, this community. I couldn't imagine the pain. But they are being used to push other narratives.
Gender mutilation has no affect on the percentage of trans-people killing themselves. Im amazed that such gaslighting was allowed to be spewed in the house 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@darthplagueisthewise5145 having lived with family that would threaten self harm, it is very much a manipulation tactic. No persons under the age of 18 should be trans-ing and people of all ages need to increase their emotional IQ. So, there is another side to this so-called fact, keep that in mind.
@Socialism Sucks Ok glowie. Stop trying to divide Americans and incite people to dehumanize others. You'd fit right in with the German National Socialist Party and the Maoist Communists.
@Socialism Sucks They are *indeed* vermin. They infect, undermine and destroy everything they touch. And they attack the most innocent and helpless, the children.
They want special privileges and refuse any accountability. Everything is everyone else's fault. She basically proved that she only cares about her community in the state and screw everyone else.
Totally justified. Zephyr basically said he would refuse to follow the rules. He doubled down in that supposed defense. So there was no reason to show leniency.
As a native american we are so under represented it hurts seeing trans people receive so much protection and assistance with the white house and congress, most of our people don’t even have electricity or running water in our homes and the government takes funding away from our hospital every year. These treaties were made because our land was taken away it makes me angry that these people go after children and still they are given time to be heard and taken seriously. They act like they are under oppression when in fact they’re the most catered to demographic in the nation
It's a trick of the govt to prop up a "victim" group in order to condemn the majority and take actions on their true motives against the people. Give us our land and sovereignty and we'll be better off.
"These treaties were made because our land was taken away" everybody's land was taken away in human history. Would you rather have the same destiny as the armenians? The entitlement is real
You should learn from their struggle and take note of how to have your voice heard, if you feel they've been more successful. Hating another minority because they're having more success than your minority is exactly what the oppressors want. They want the minorities busy fighting each other, as you are eager to do, instead of looking up and fighting the people at the top pulling the strings.
@ZipMap I hate victim mentalities, but you are kinda entitled to provisions in a treaty. I would much rather we uplift and celebrate native culture rather than celebrate the alphabet crowd.
At first I was like: NO! THAT'S NOT HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS!! But then I saw what happened. And Yes, THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS. The House has rules. Gone are the days where they go unpunished for violating other people's rights. You have rights but it ends where mine starts (and vice versa).
You can not tell me that in the entire state of Montana there's not one single psych ward that Mr. Zephyr can be committed too. Clearly he's delusional and in need of some serious help.
Honestly, it is likely the case. The left defunded and closed down psych wards years and years ago. The money that went to psych wards was used for social programs. Don't get me wrong, MANY psych wards were far worse than prison and the patients got abused constantly. They needed reforms, not closed down.
I live in the beautiful state of montana and all I can say is I hate to tell you but our state mental hospital is run pretty badly but I would be ok if another state wanted to take this situation off of our hands!
This bill doesn't attack or hurt any transgender person, it just protects children. There's no such thing as Gender affirming care, it's child mutilation and it's sickening! You Go Montana!
Please don't ever move to cali, rethink it don't it.. the medical age for consent has been lowered to 12yrs, this is for both abortions and gender transitions, we just had chico high school in hot water due to a new law that allows schools not to tell parents about their child being trans, this what they are not understanding or they refuse to see because it has to be about them all the time, but gender or trans discussion is between the parents and child, they only seeing hurting them because they wanna have access to kids
You are absolutely right, and this is a lie that is being repeated continually by fanatical trans activists and their "woke" allies in media -- that protecting minors from unnecessary, dangerous, and demonstrably destructive medical procedures is an attack on all "trans" people. It's not.
I know, right? Let's blame powerless kids as we take away what is proven by all current medical consensus as the best option for families that choose it, demonize them on media all day every day, and punish someone who is just like them trying to stand up to it. Seriously, you don't get how much stress this puts on kids? Go meet some trans people and hear them out before you just dismiss it as not your problem.
They're taught to be victims, it benefits them. If people are so sick that they feel they need to commit suicide by listening to people talk, they truly need help. EVERYONE hears their opinions and feelings, how can we not? We have it stuffed down our throats 24/7 by the activist media, the govt, and activist "medical" providers that are destroying trans people for ONLY ideological reasons- NOT for health reasons. The treatment for gender dysphoria has NEVER been surgery first, and NEVER for minors- it's always been therapy, and we will see in the years to come- we already are, that this social contagion will undermine annd destroy many children's lives and our society fundamentally. Just because we don't want to hurt people's feelings or tell THE truth, we are furthering the delusion. People don't get to just do whatever they want nor do they deserve special rights for ANY reasons. I don't care how people live their lives personally, but when their lifestyle starts to affect children and larger society because they are given special treatment, it needs to be constrained to their personal lives only.
@@KitFoxboy there is absolutely no medical consensus that says that it helps them whatsoever, they once believed your nonsense in Europe but now they are stopping these butcherings of children because they proved people like you wrong that it doesn't help at all. Even after the surgery's these so-called trans still have a 42% suicide rate, it doesn't help one single bit attempt
@@Shinobi33- Say you'll fucking stop taking away our rights! Say you'll call us by the names we ask you to call us by! Say you'll stop calling us groomers when our kids come out to us! How about all of that?!
If you're not trans you have no right to say what is good for us or not. I was a child once. I delt with gender dysphoria. It wasn't until I was older that I realized what trans was and was able to realize that I was born in the wrong body. I transitioned and had my realignment surgery. Understand these laws you're trying to force on them will not stop them from transitioning. You will not win. You can not fight it. You can not stop it. If a child is trans they will transition. whether you like it or not. P.S. You're tax's paid for my reassignment t surgery and breast's. Thank you for your'e support ❤☺😊😘 🏳⚧ 🌈
Yes and people aren’t buying the whole temper tantrum threats they constantly use to get what they want. The drama isn’t winning anyone over. It’s doing the opposite
They are blaming everyone else for mental issues and suicides to guilt them into being responsible, victimization at its best. Proper health counseling addressing underlying issues causing their unhappiness to do harmful things to their body is what they need.
What they want is not being accepted. It has nothing to do with democracy. It wants one thing, power, and all of it. Let them speak, and listen, and shut up. All this boo hoo oh my poor community is the lie they tell to pull at your heartstrings. It is insidious, and it is working and they will keep at it.
We need proper mental health now more than ever... the fact that people don't see this as insanity let's me kno just how far we've fallen. Make America Make Sense Again
Exactly. That person never said WHO, how many, and never said that there are MORE people committing suicide AFTER transitioning, than before. His whole speech was an ACT. It's not the TRUTH.
You think that is bad ? Just wait until the next phase where they stop threatening themselves and realize it is far more effective to threaten others instead . We have been seeing glimpses of it ; but that is the road we are quickly headed down sadly . But once parents finally take the blinders off and under the bright clear light of day see _exactly_ what these monsters wish to do to our children it will all come crashing down around them . Nobody gave a rip what these people chose to do in the privacy of their own homes between consenting adults ; very few of us give a rip about their weird fetish's and kinks . The only reason we are being forced to even speak on these issues is because it is no longer about consenting adults and never truly was ; they wish to do unspeakably revolting and permanent things to children who are incapable of consent . Sterilizing children is awful enough - butchering their genitals is worse still - mentally and emotionally scarring them is sickening , also ... SO MANY vile acts they feel somehow entitled to performing on other people's innocent children how are we even discussing these as if these people aren't monsters who in any past points of history would be hunted to extinction for their crimes against humanity ? ? Let us be clear about exactly what they wish for ours and their children . These monsters need mental health assistance or prison cells built UNDER the existing prisons , not positions of influence !
It’s like the emotional spoiled teenager who’s been told NO!! So they throw a hissy fit and threaten to kill themselves. Transgender people are more likely to commit self extinction AFTER gender affirming surgery, usually around the 7 year post op.
The only true "gender affirming care" is looking at their DNA and going "you have a y chromosome, you are male, will always be male, and changing the plumbing won't change the fact you are STILL a biological male."
I don’t believe her when she says she has a friends kid who tried to harm themselves while she was given that speech. Neither do I believe her when she says she is stopped in the hall and thanked. She was given time to speak. She said what she said. I listened to what she said, and my belief remains unchanged. I will not be blackmailed into action over threats of self harm.
I’m embarrassed for my city. I just want to point out how he talk about serving his community of 11,000 people and yet Missoula has 78,000 people in it. What about the other 67000 people?
11,000 people voted to have him represent him in is what he meant . . and out of those 11,000 I bet maybe a dozen or so TOPS are trans so basically they think 'representative democracy' means 'I got elected and now I am going to represent MYSELF and only MYSELF' . . They don't have empathy , dignity , shame , morals -- there is nothing too dark or too evil -- whatever moves their goals towards completion they will do without question . This is so incredibly dangerous . . This mind-virus is how societies collapse . We cannot treat these victims of the cancerous mind-virus as if they are just like everyone else because they are NOT .
Someone said only 4053 people voted in the state of Missoula which he won at 79.21%. So that state has 78000 people and mainly the pro T-birds voted. Why did the rest not bother ?
I just don't understand the logic. You can't legally drink, have sex, get a tattoo, get married (the list goes on) til you are of a certain age. But you want to let minors have serious medical precedures that will affect their whole lives emotionally and physically
They wanted to pass a law that said babies had to give permission for their diapers to be changed. It's not a small step from that, to a child giving permission for sex. They have an ultimate goal, never forget that.
@johnnymcblaze It's just scary to me how things have changed so much the last few years. I hoped the original "going woke" idea would open peoples minds to other peoples issues, make people have more empathy and understanding, protect those who are vulnerable, etc I couldn't have been more wrong 😔
@@soaf1985 If it's perpetuated by the media, ANY media, you can know its only there to distract and weaken We, the People. For instance, telling people to "do # your # own # research" is now considered anti Semitic propaganda and is deleted from social media as soon as it is written, unless you can fool the censors. And the censors get better every year.
I love how the media makes it sound like they kicked the representative off because they are trans gender but in reality it’s because they were interrupting the session which is against the rule.
Just more lies like we hear day after day after day. I don't believe a single word that anyone says anymore if it comes from any of the "traditional" propaganda, I mean "news agencys".. Today, if a person wants the real truth, you have to look for it, and use your God given brain!!
I mean.. tbh idc what the reason was, my real motive would've def been to get rid of this pest before it grows cancerously .. I bet most of the body has that same mentality 😂
Hopefully more states in this country start following suit .. to even allow people with that level of mental instability into a power of position to begin with is mind boggling to begin with ... the more they get into positions of power the more bad off our country is going to get .. bravo to the Montana house of reps
As a Pre-Nursing Student, I just recently did a paper on Gender reassignment and the facts involved. Primary FACT, gender reassignment does NOT work. Most of these beautiful human beings are struggling with mental health. Many do commit suicide even after trans surgeries. And many even opt for reversal, after regret. Our children need our love, protection, and encouragement NOT pushing them to change the way they were born. Most importantly, we need to love love love these people where they are and pray our God and Creator will continue dealing with us in MERCY. We have become worse than Sodom and Gomorrah, and they were annihilated. By the way, I'm a proud resident of northwest Montana.
Thank you. I have a friend who's 16 y/o sister was one of the most kind, patient, hopeful, and present people on this earth. Justs so unique and wonderful as a human. One of those people whos truly too pure for this world, had a gentle voice that perfectly matched her personality. After visiting my home town I saw them and couldn't believe it. I was told that after a 3 month bout of (very minor depression), she was led by a group of new friends to get her breasts cut off and her voice permanently altered like a man's. She was due to have her genitals removed too, but after not experiencing the complete psychological relief that she was told to expect from the mastectomy, she snapped out of it and canceled the last surgery. The whole thing did nothing but mutilate and traumatize the young girl. She's an absolute shell of her former self now, still has that strange pseudo-man's voice despite stopping the drugs and has lost her old personality. She was the most peaceful human I have ever known, able to mesmerize people with her voice and incredible composure, but now you can easily sense this turmoil in her mind as well as the subtle anger under the surface for what was done to her. This movement took a nearly perfect human being and just broke her-physically and mentally. My gut tells me she isn't going to be around for long tbh. I just feel awful for her. It's made me question gay rights ALOT .....considering nearly every gay person I know (or even know _of)_ seems content, if not _happy_ with this happening to young girls like her.
Yeah, what no one dares to say because the trans lobby will go on a rampage if anyone says it out loud is that you can't detransition. The damage is irreversible, these kids never go back to who they were before. Jazz Jennings said it well: she doesn't ever feel like herself. It sounds horrific. But these men whose surgeries and hormone therapies didn't bring the miraculous feeling that they are women (which is normal as no amount of hormones and surgery ever change someone's sex) can't accept that they will never be whom they aspire to be, and so they are trying to turn children into the failures they are so they can feel good about messing themselves up. That's what's going on. The mids who are victimized by this can never go back. There is no such thing as detranstioning.
It's soon going to be a decision only for the child. That's a lot of pressure for someone who isn't old enough to drive. Do they want to get out of their depression by talking to their family and hoping they'll get support or do they want to try brute forcing their way to happiness with expensive surgery, drugs, and therapy? In some cases talking with friends and family has failed. Now where they get the money to do the second option is beyond me. It's more than $100k when all is said and done.
It's definitely a mental health issue. It's going untreated in the name of "acceptance," but you cant help people who are sick by accepting or coddling them. You help them by treating them.ou don't accept a broken arm, you put a cast on it. You don't accept someone's suicidal tendencies, you lock them down and get them a shrink.
- Hey Zephyr: Don't breathe your words. - It's as politically expedient as dragging your nails over a chalkboard. - Any adult who assists, in any way, the mutilation of a child's body should be imprisoned for life. - The minimum sentence of any parent or teacher found to have egged an innocent child on, encouraging the kid to believe he/she "came out wrong" must be equal to that for kidnapping.
Last time I checked, threatening suicide and using it for coercive manipulation was legally recognised as psychological and emotional ABUSE. And falls under domestic violence. Join me in spreading that little fact to push back on this disgusting tactic they so often use!
if it only were their agenda. It's some other communist psychos agenda and this freaks are just used as puppets to move their plans forward. This freaks must go.
@@Public-jm1cb true that. I mean when these people are told about trans children they always think about their genitalia. I think if the first thing you think of when talking about kids is child crotch you have a problem.
Unfortunately it has also been programmed into these kids’ minds as the only other option if they aren’t given the care they demand. Therein lies the problem. Just denying gender affirming care may not be an option. It may have to include hospitalization and suicide watch depending on how deeply ingrained the indoctrination has become.
I’m glad people are waking up to this. Spot on, Ginger. I have always viewed the “do what we say or we will kill ourselves” as a classic abusive teenage boyfriend tactic.
It makes me mad when they blame *uicide in their community on anyone who disagrees with anything they do or say. There's zero care or respect for those being attacked by their community. If someone commits *uicide over a meeting meant to make all sides fair, there's way more bothering them on than that! It's so irresponsible to not understand that!
Suicide by definition is a personal act against oneself. It is usually an escape from a situation we feel we cannot control. However, in life events are routinely out of our hands. Learning to deal with it falls on you. Coping you learn.
First off, they are mentally messed up in the first place because they feel shamed by their biological gender. Nearly every transgender person has been in therapy for years by the time they have surgery. Think if it - how far does a person have to go psychologically to decide to permanently surgically change their sex organs and then be on hormone therapy with makes them 3 times more likely to have cardiac problems and shortens their life by 10-15%? And statically, fully transgender people have a suicide rate of 3 times the normal average. Honestly, they already have mental tendencies to commit suicide. Denying Healthcare (which when you are adult you can get any type of cosmetic surgery you eat if YOU pay for it) is a bunch of crap. They just want taxpayers to find all of their proceedures.
When in fact they off themselves because once the Uthoria wears off the can't handle what they've done to themselves and the miriade of problems they've selfinflickted on themselves or its because they can't get the change quick enough. Saying it has to do with people who are against them is just a scapegoat so as to not rock the gravy train and make them look the victims they try to portray
I agree Lynette its the part of the ideology I cant stand. Suicide is a terrible thing but the framing the bloody framing. 'your laws/legislation opinion is killing my people' 'we are getting killed out here' No you are killing yourselves because you are mentally ill
Zephyr's claim people wanted to commit suicide because of watching House debates is anecdotal at best. "If" anyone actually said that, it is most likely any desire to take their own life resulted from a magnitude of other problems they experienced for many years, opposed to an instantaneous decision merely from listening to a debate. Further, the legislation Zephyr claims is harming anyone is nonsense; just the opposite is true, the legislation serves to 'prevent' harm to children with mental and emotional struggles from making potentially harmful decisions that should wait until adulthood to make, when they are physically, emotionally, and mentally capable of making life-altering decisions and consequences; and to protect children in general from exposure to material they are too young to understand that in any sane society would be deemed inappropriate for children. None of what Zooey Zephyr said was credible, and he does not sound fit to represent anyone if he can not even represent himself with honesty and integrity that was not on display here.
I hope that if you ever have kids, grandkids, or even great grandchildren, and one of them has struggles with their own sexual orientation, you will be more supportive.
Pretty sure the only people that voted this guy into office were from a very tiny very concentrated blue district attached to a college, which tells you everything.
CONGRATS TO THE PEOPLE OF MONTANA,FOR ELECTING PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT IMPROPER CONDUCT,NO MATTER FROM WHOM IT MAY CONCERN! GOD BLESS YOU! IT'S ABSOLUTELY EVIDENT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REGARD FOR THE RULES OF DECORUM OR EVEN MORALS! I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO OTHER STATES WHERE THEY ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO MAKE THEIR OWN RULES AND STANDARDS!
The Roman Empire before it was squashed didn't have the tech to do it but paintings found in Pompii promoted this garbage ! Many in the Corp tryerd tpo quit by saying I commit suicide when given the knife and after being shown HOW they declined 1% isn't a Majority !
Decorum?! Are they a bunch of whimps that can't take criticism from a trans person?! She has a voice. She said nothing threatening. If they FEEL that hurt by what she said, well, the old saying if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!
I'm so sick of all the transurections being labeled as "ppl protesting the gov to be heard" WHILE THE 1-6 PPL ARE STILL BEING HELD IN JAIL FOR YEARS WITHOUT A TRIAL
Why are lying? Every Jan 6 insurrectionist had a trial.... each and every one. And the difference you can't seem to comprehend is the level of violence. Violent protesters in the USA are nearly always arrested and unlike so many protests the Jan 6 protestors weren't arrested then and there - the obvious advantage of being both predominately white and right wing. Had the Million Man March ended with storming the Capital, the streets would have been littered with the bodies of dead black men stack sky high.
I would" like" your comment 1000 times if the platform allowed it! Right to a speedy trial? Our Constitution is being bludgeoned to death, While those presumed innocent under the law rot in prison!
These people are insane I’ve watched these kids devastated by what was done to them when they were too young to understand the ramifications of these serious so called gender confirming care One said after having the most radical surgery Why didn’t someone save me from myself Because now I’m completely destroyed for life Wait till these kids are old enough to understand Why is this even discussed
@@leshommesdupilly counselling, support, education & !information. NOT chopping bits off their young bodies and stopping them from ever experiencing an orgasm or mutilating them for financial gain, it’s barbaric! Can’t have a tattoo until 18, can’t drink until 21, yet allowed to make drastic life changes? Get a grip on reality!
@@Jordan1000 you can’t get these surgeries under 18 unless there is extreme risk of suicide. Even then the earliest anyone can get any of these surgeries is 16.
And reality. No man in drag should patronise or compete against, women and children should not even be aware of made up narcissistic fantasies of fully grown men
Although I agree. Really the focus should be YOUR children are YOUR future so raise them to protect themselves at all cost. If the trans movement eventually wins (leave it to the Democrats to get this done) then parents are going to be legally helpless to save their children. The children will have to save themselves. Natural selection.
That man is despicable. He didn’t ‘speak up’ about ‘her’ community he verbally attacked Christians and prayer. He’s disgusting and I love that he’s silenced. His tears are delicious!
"...Rule of Decency"? Not a very Christian thing to say. Better, yet, the Golden Rule. It allows for Decency and the appropriate use of Loss of Decorum, while respecting the use of both.
@@nichkey5315 Bobcats. I went to college there when it was called moo U. Born and raised. Moved out of Bozeman...can't stand what they did to it. Take care.
Just cuz you're offended and your mental stability is so weak that you want to delete yourself over something that literally won't hurt you doesn't mean you're right. These people sound literally insane and shouldn't need a mic to express these delusional realities.
I seriously doubt that Zephyr is doing a fair job in representing the constituents of the 100th district instead Zephyr is pushing self beliefs and ideals.
This Trans lawmaker just shows everyone who they really are. As well as the Trans shooter in Nashville think therapy and help is what these poor souls need.
I have a feeling people are forgetting what Democracy means. Democracy does not mean getting your way by throwing tantrums and screaming at the top of your lungs. Democracy does not mean everyone else must adhere to the minority number of votes. Democracy means the people vote, the majority rules, the losers sit down - shut up - and accept it. Don't like it? You're more than welcome to move to another country and try your version of democracy there. Good luck with that.
How was he even allowed on the floor to begin with!??? If you're a cross-dresser and it makes you happy, GREAT!! Whatever gets you through the day, this tho, is sickening!! THANK YOU "The House", I'm shocked you all were brave enough to even do this!! Maybe there is hope for our future....
SHE was voted in by her constituents! To represent EVERYONE! This is the most repulsive act by a state legislation I've ever seen. You are all on the wrong side of history.
I have a question, If this person were to identify as a Black or Latino and demand they be regarded as such, would they be given the same rights and not looked at as being completely deluded? He is not a woman and is appropriating female gender. It is insulting and degrading. When is this nonsense going to stop!
@@Fitzroy2023 what side of history are you speaking of? Reality? I'm guessing the history you refer to is in the fairy tales section in your local library. Finally, a legislature did the right thing. He is a he. That can't be changed no matter how hard a person tries.
@@newjerseyyouth4853 New Jersey youth? Deborah and the rest of the world say hands off the kids! Are you a child? No mutilation surgery under 18. No twisted hormone blockers or any other acts of child abuse. Eighteen is the consent of legal adulthood unless otherwise specified per state. All doctors, parents, guardians, etc that engage in these acts of mutilation or abuse should be charged with crimes against humanity.
So, Zooey talked about suicides within the community they belong to.. IF, anyone else said they were going to kill themselves, and called into the hotline.. They'd be talked out of it, and asked to seek therapy. You can change your body, but if you're having mental health issues. It doesn't matter how much physical work you do.
I love how Zooey zephyr says it’s a ban on gender affirming care, but neglected to say that it’s gender affirming care *FOR CHILDREN* (I.e. hormone replacement therapy, as well as surgery) 😐
When you listen to the MANY detransitioning horror stories it is heartbreaking to hear of the permanent damage done to children, teens and young adults by the insane surgeries and hormone ‘therapies’ so readily available. It is DAMAGING, unhealthy and bad ‘medicine’, not to mention mentally agonizing when these transsexuals realize that changing/mutilating the outside does not heal the inside.
@Pwntang07 That statement was TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. It tells me you haven't listened to ANY of the thousands of people who have regretted doing the hormone and sex change things. They try to reverse it and can't. I call on you to PLEASE listen to some of THOSE, BEFORE you do ANY campaigning for the PRO- hurting of children's bodies. They CANT reverse it, if they change their minds. People are being LIED to.
They think you’ll feel sorry for them and then agree with them, it’s emotional manipulation and most of it is lies anyway, that’s why democrats seem to love Biden coz he tells personal stories and experiences and it tugs at their heartstrings instead of presenting facts about politics
They’re immediately visually identified as mentally ill yet think they’re entitled to impacting policy and making decisions to destroy children’s lives. Sick!
I personally wouldn’t want her in charge of anyone either. However, she was elected by the people who live there. In a representative democracy we must honor the people’s vote.
Funny that’s exactly what anyone trans is probably thinking they wish the community would leave um alone and let them be who they want but we all live in America as long as rad dem and transphobic are hear the nation won’t get left alone on this topic until their all gone
My exwife always threatened suicide if I divorced her. It’s a form of abuse.
Apparently that's what some people think democracy is
Exactly jimbus!
I narrowly avoided marrying someone who would do the same. I have zero tolerance for it now,in this form or any other.
Its also bullying and manipulation. All forms of abuse and control. But that's where we get to the core of the issue here. It's control. Always. Control
Exactly it's very wrong and low as scum
Gaslighting and threats of self-harm are usually regarded as a sign of narcissistic personality disorder.
They’re all narcissists. Literally being a politician is just being an actor that instead of movies they act out by peddling lies and then sitting on those lies until they can somehow turn it to gold. Nowadays probably 99.2% of all politicians are narcissists that’s just plain fact. You watch these people argue on TV And then they all go out after for a couple of beers and laugh at how good their performance was and what suckers we are as citizens.
"I rose up and defended my community and democracy itself."
That sure sounds like narcissism to me. He believes he has special rights. Nope, same rights and same rules.
@@chrish3274 I also can't see how she is defending democracy by limiting parents' rights to decide whether their minor children can access medication and significant surgeries that have irreversible consequences.
It’s like being with significant other who threatens self harm if you leave them. Their actions are not on anyone else but themselves
@@seekthetruthfindit6879 This week in Oregon they passed just that... (My home state and where I reside). Now mothers will have to co-parent with the state, and if they don't they can go to jail for interfering.
For the actual safety and welfare of our children? We need to boot these creeps out. They're bullies. They bully those who don't know better by accusing them of being phobic if they don't agree. It's textbook emotional manipulation, which is also another narcissist trait.
These people have been allowed to misbehave without any repercussions! I'm happy to see consequences are finally being applied.
This is so ironic coming from the mouth of an AMERICAN. Weren't the ones who rebelled against the British Empire, setting your nation independent, "MISBEHAVING"?
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
@@stanmonk2851 wow what a great quote for these days
@@Deljron777 a GREAT Bible verse, BECAUSE it’s in the Bible!!
YASSS!!
Omg! "give us what we want or were gonna unalive ourselves!" be my guest! Im so sick of all this bull$hit
"unalive" hahahaha, love it! I'm stealing that.
Please, you are protecting the children by doing it.
Here is a Razor blade for ya…
😂😂 unalive? Aliven't
yes please less mental illness to go around
Who hasn't been insulted? They act like they're the only ones who've had pain in their lives.
Something is very wrong when individuals make themselves out as "a victim". But this is what these people do. They don't like the rules because they can't do what they want. The thing to do then is to change the rules. Like a 3 y.o. throwing a tantrum.
@@josephlozano5935...and the blacks, they love to play the victem....
@@shane-bl4jk KNOCK IT OFF!!! this had nothing to do with "blacks"...I'm not black, but its ridiculous to bring race into this for no reason.
The only pain they have they bring on themselves. When you chop off body parts it's painful im sure. But that's your choice. I had my leg cut off and yeah it changed everything but i'm not a victim. I refused to be a victim. I've had many complications that have shortened my life even but I work with what I'm given and do thr best I can. I don't expect everyone else to change for me or to help me. If everyone treated equal then nobody is treated as special. This is what we need to get back to is treated everyone the same no matter the color or choices. But not letting them go after kids.The kids in fact are very special. For many reasons but the only way they can be safe is if we keep them safe.
Unattractive woman: "I've never been so insulted in all my life!"
Groucho: "Oh, come now, madam. You must have been!"
If you commit suicide because you don't get your way that isn't "getting people killed". This is the adult version of holding your breath.
It is mental illness
If you choose the selfish act of suicide then you are a selfish bastard. If you have children you choose to leave behind you are even worse.. my brother chose the very easy way out one morning after his two young sons went off to school.. if it wasn't for me returning to my brother's house on lunch break to get a tablet and charger that I had left there the night before the next to little humans through the front door to find the awful mess that he chose to make would have been his two innocent little children.. I do not care, I do not care your situation in life suicide is never the acceptable choice and it is a choice.
The gaslighting and emotional blackmail is so gross and manipulative.
This isn't gaslighting, smooth-brain.
@Mike Dunning probably a man in a dress. Just ignore it and it'll go away.
research mockingbird + sinclair soldiers_ {spread the message for the collective consciousness}
On point
Montana: Don’t let the patients run the asylum.
YES!!! So, so clearly put.
Too late. The Republicans have been in control a while.
real and based, suh
Oh but I so enjoyed One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest😂. Love it!
This!
You can NOT let people who deny reality have positions of power. It never ends well.
I agree, but to be clear, he still has his power but he has to vote remotely. Because all he did was disrupt the house proceedings he was banned.
Sadly he was voted in basically by the Missoula college so they will probably keep voting in idiots.
In the last ten years, it seems they put all the crazies in power.... We must remember that these weirdos are a very small percentage of the population, but lately they get all the attention
@@CelticKnot463 I agree. Their emotional state of mind actually has a purpose. To be nurturing when raising children.
@@patula3499 You would be surprised how many people fly off the handle and sling insults when I say that. Thx for understanding. :)
Facts!!!
I heard a guy say this once, and I think this man needs to hear it: “emotional blackmail is not an argument.”
That is true, but that is not applicable to this situation. She has got a long road ahead of her, stay strong and don't give up!
@@DJJezzebella that's a man in a dress.
Thank you!
@@DJJezzebella No thanks, too insane to be in office
@@DJJezzebella why are you referring to a man with female pronouns? He's not female, he's male.
This is an actual legislative body, not a university auditorium. The consequences of a mob takeover are very real in this chamber. They don't just disrupt a discussion, they disrupt the actual adult activity of operating a government. This institution _cannot function_ without the proper decorum, which is simply another way of saying the proper respect.
Protect the children. The children can make up their own minds when they’re adults, in the meantime, protect the children.
Children don't need protection from things their parents find offensive, they need guidance and support from their parents and they need to be exposed to different things and people. Making your kids feel pressure to persecute people and make uninformed choices is not good parenting
@@VigilanteAss "So what if a grown man is stripping in front of your child! They need to be "exposed" to ThAt!!!" Great argument. You have no idea what planet you're on.
@@JohnnyNoPockets Thats a strawman. You people have no real arguement.
@@jasonmoran5152 Family friendly drag shows should not exist.
@@VigilanteAss children need to be protected from these evil people.
You know we set minimum ages for marriage, driving and other things. Why not put age limits on things like life-changing surgeries?
You mean sterilization surgeries. That is what it does.
College of Obstetrics and Gyn:
"The regulations prohibit sterilization of women younger than 21 years and of women with mental disabilities, require waiting periods between the time of consent and the sterilization procedure (currently, a 30-day waiting period), and require the use of a standardized consent form 22."
Yes, that seems LOGICAL, that's why no Democrat thought of it.
Because they like all the money it brings in.
There is clearly an agenda being forced upon a nation. The venom and hatred when reasonable issues like stopping adult males allowed in high school showers of the women is appalling.
The safety and mental health of the kids must always come first. The greater the shock value is, the louder they fight. In reality, a transgender female who wants to be looked at as a girl who is 18 would not desire to shower and expose adult male genitalia to 14 year old girls in the shower. May I ask who wants to be the parent who has to try to deal with the trauma those girls experienced. The trauma can't be undone or the violation those young girls felt. If wanting to be accepted as a female was important, their actions stand in stark contrast. Books with porn, young children introduced to up to 60 pronouns, encouraging gender change in schools without parents knowledge.
These are all agendas that do not make anyone feel inclusive in nature.
Forcing 98 percent of the population to change basic human anatomy science and knowledge is way past asking to be accepted, it is to confuse and cause division of the society. They aren't asking for acceptance, they are demanding humanity do things their way. That is an agenda and our children need to be protected against those who are so hostile.
The sense of entitlement in these people is ridiculous, they never think the rules apply to them. They're the oppressors not the oppressed.
I've seen that for a long time. They want to oppress us into thinking their way.
Hear, Hear
EXACTLY- everywhere!!! They dont want equal rights they want SPECIAL
@@Fefe559 They learned it from previous status quo though.
AND they're the FIRST to hold their opposition to the rules.
WE NEED TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF CHILDREN... THIS IS DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
@My Love And free from manipulating, evil adults.
PROTECT CHILDREN.
Protect children however if a child changes genders which has to have parent permission by the way who cares it’s not your business then
We need to protect the rights of children by taking away their rights! So brave so true
This is not even about the children anymore, this is flat out degeneration of our current society! These people need to be admitted into a mental hospital, they are mentally unstable.
Boo hoo, I acted ridiculous, got in trouble, and now I'm going to gaslight and throw buzzwords out to try and get out of it. It's about time these people suffer the consequences of their ridiculous behavior!
They always talk about how the bill "banned gender affirming care." The fact is it regulates it for citizens under the age of 18. Just like we have age limits on various other things that could have long lasting effects. You can't let children make these decisions. Parents who consent to it are just being convinced by their child, which means they are weak minded and lack strong will. You aren't being a parent, you are trying to be the "cool adult" or "understanding adult" to these children. Every "cool adult" I ever met was a little creepy.
If the bill is for under 18, it makes sense the parents make decisions not a doctor.
Amen
AMEN TO THAT!!!!!! ❤❤❤
You mean I can't pick my bedtime but I can pick my gender?
In all honesty, this is actually good. It prevents poor decisions made by young kids. It still DOES allow care to minors, but with stipulations. The minor must meet certain requirements and be seen by two different qualified doctors and be diagnosed with gender dysphoria
There was a time that “cutting” was a sign of self-harm and of great concern. So now we have medical professionals that “cut ”children and we call it good and affirming and compassionate.
Hub cutting would still be a issue
April User. Yes. There was a time when birthing was a beautiful time. "It's a BOY!" "It's a GIRL!" Now it belongs to "experts." "I'm sorry but your boy feels like a girl, and your girl is really a boy inside. Science has moved on." They're mad as hatters.
Should have their license revoked. More child abuse and parents should be charged for gross neglect
People should be concerned as these people aren't playing with a full deck yet want to make important decisions involving their state.
@@dworld7830😅😮
Quite simply, you don't get to do whatever you want just because you feel passionate about your cause. They don't want fairness and equality, they want special privilege's to be disruptive. They believe the rules don't apply to them.
We’ll said Pat
ho poor me!!!
Yes, THE RULES DON'T APPLY TO THEM - the key definition of borderline HIGHLY DISTURBED AND OFFENSIVE, ANTI=SOCIAL behaviour!
You summed their entire "cause" Pat.
The rules apparently, apply to her but not other legislatures who breached the same rules but worse. I swear, none of you actually watched the video, lol
Natural consequences... something they aren't used to. Way to go Montana!
Well, we’re quite the wild ones out here in ol Montana! Fishers, hunters, a true outdoorsman’s dream!
@@nichkey5315 yep. And it sucks here so stop moving here.. 😏
@@nichkey5315And you're represented by a bunch of bullies trying to persecute a minority population who are too cowardly to hear dissent from their colleagues and constituents.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administrating medicine to the dead Thomas Paine.
Yes, that’s why our only dialogue with republicans should be in the language of steel and lead.
I whole heartedly agree, arguing with conservatives who have renounced reason is like administering medicine to the dead.
Thomas was right.
@@jim14-us4ii Anyone who believes her/him/it needs a mental health eval.
@@Jerryman1158 People should strongly question the judgement of anyone anyone that cuts their penis off. Common sense isn't so common anymore is it?
Its good to hear people finally standing up to this madness.
Absolutely, thanks Montana for showing some sanity in an increasingly insane clown run world.
I think it’s a genocide of children
Absolutely, we are all in agreement! We are watching a lot of mental illness with no end in sight.
Amen!
@@janeclayton151 The world outside of the US/UK/EU is not like this. They're all laughing at us right now. Suspiciously the people who are pushing for this hard are also sleeping with Chinese spies. Also suspiciously TikTok, a Chinese company is actually nothing like the TikTok we have here in the US.
Honestly curious which part of this bill "gets people killed?" Isn't this simply a bill that says if you want to mutilate your body you pay for it yourself? I'm not sure how that "kills" Zooey's "people."
Please show your work, Rep. Zephyr.
They're gnostic transhumanists. They believe that they're only "alive" and "human" if they have transcended their bodies. Gnostic transhumanists have unusual definitions of words.
This is the constant rhetoric we get. These people are holding _themselves_ hostage, and threatening to end themselves if they don't get their way, then saying that it will be our fault that they made this choice.
Look, I've been suicidally depressed at two points in my life. I had many reasons to be angry and resentful, but had I gone through with it, the _only_ and I repeat _only_ person responsible for my decision would be ME. I was childish for thinking otherwise.
I'm tired of being held hostage by people wanting to blame me for their bad decisions.
👏👏👏👏👏well said...
Why are they not paying for people who are dying of cancer, surely that should come before changing sex, or people who have disabilities and cannot afford ops, they should get free care, but nooo, it's got to be about them, pay for it yourself, get a job if it's that bad, let really ill people get surgery for free
No, it says you can't mutilate children
Absolutely awesome. More lawmakers should have the courage and integrity to stand up to those sexual deviants
The real mental illness in this discussion are the people who think a child or the parents of that child should be allowed to absolutely ravage a minor person's body with surgeries, hormones, puberty blockers, etc., etc., all of which is highly dangerous to their health and all permanent. Do as you please as an adult but children ought to be allowed to grow up and make these decisions as an adult when they have the maturity and context to understand the permeance and gravity of such decisions.
Well said!
just like covid vax no medical studies and these poor young people are the lab rats
Absolutely right. Most under 18 are easily influenced in our schools. This needs to stop.
Get your kids out of school
Absolutely agree with you here, stay away from our children!
In Washington state, there is a state law banning police from interviewing anyone under 18 under any circumstances (to including murder) when arrested because the state has deemed anyone under 18 incapable of understanding their rightes, YET at the same time the state believes anyone under 18 is competent enough to get gender mutilation surgery without their parents knowledge and or even consent.
Make that make sense.
Something something 'Muh Feelings' something something 'Killing us' something something.
Yeah sorry, that's all I got... and honestly that's all they got too 🤣
14 can’t consent to sex but can get an abortion without parental knowledge in New York
This needs more likes, all feeling based, but if "we" argue with our feelings, we are invalidated as if we don't have feelings about our struggles? So, because the struggles are different and their feelings matter more because of a lack of privileges or lack of validation of those feelings, we must invalidate "our" feelings that are different to their feelings because virtuos superiority on their part? Isn't that a privilege being pushed by them inadvertently? This is circular, very similar to a religion, and I slightly consider myself religious.
Calling bullshit misinfo. Please provide evidence that children are being operated on without parental consent. That's called malpractice. Doctors have always needed the approval of a guardian for drugs and operations. No child is making this decision without loads of adult involvement and supervision.
I am a resident in that state, and it's clown town, politically.
Protect the children at all costs. Let them grow up.
💖💖💖💖💖💖 must protect them at all costs.
The AMA, the American Academy of Pediatricians and the American Psychiatric Association all recommend protecting children by giving those with gender dysphoria gender affirming care.
@@studebakerhoch4397 Then the AMA is WRONG. Stopping or slowing natural biological development is NOT HEALTHY. No matter what activists say.
Stufebaker Hoch, of course the AMA wants gender affirming care. That’s how they get rich…!!!
@@terrydemoe7653 it's not only about money, it's also about a satanic cult.
Its also about dehumanizing people it's about depopulation, the destruction of our culture customs and traditions. It's about sexualizing children. So yes a big part of it is money but there's a lot more to it than that.
“Sorry Sir, we have a strict policy. No people with Disney character names allowed”
Lmao I will always be on the look out for that now
If i see a mf named “Mickey” in school I’m throwing him no question
Zooey does sound a bit like a Disney character.
Bahahaha. Thank u for the levity
@@antonbrum5492 umm..quite sure it is that linked with Zephyr that fully qualifies for Disney.
I say yes to those in favor. If they don't stop to get this under control it will only get worse.
You're right. I think the homophobes who are baning her should stop this hatred stuff before it gets worse
Nice mancuts on some of these folks.
First it was tolerance. Then inclusion. That’s where it should have stopped, but those two were never the true end game. Now it’s promotion. That is the ultimate goal and people have just about had enough and it’s starting to show.
well stated.
No ,it should have stopped before tolerance. Tolerance for the Delusions of The Mentally Ill harms both the Afflicted by encouraging them not to seek treatment. And it harms others in society by trying to force them to accept a delusion as reality.
They want worship and idolatry
It was always about promotion. The bible thumpers were absolutely correct when they warned us of what would come if we tolerated this filth.
This is all about giving them & Pedophiles more freedom than most.
Someone who would commit suicide on listening to a legislative hearing? Mental illness needs to be seriously considered in that person. The peoples' business should not be held up by those with a mental illness.
Yeah if they are debating whether you, your doctor, and your parents have a say in your life's choices that's pretty damn distressing. Try to imagine that your own body is a source of terrible discomfort and everybody puts you into roles you hate when they see you. You know there are treatments that are supported by major medical consensus that can help and these people are up there saying no. You HAVE to live the way they want you to live and your only hope at that medical care is now criminal. Oh and you are a kid so you are utterly powerless on top of everything else. This business IS a mental health issue either way.
@@KitFoxboy as more patients are coming forward we’re learning that removing the person’s sex organs is not the “solution” to the discomfort they are experiencing. ruclips.net/video/2XjFe_O0ij0/видео.html
@@KitFoxboy Look up Detransitioners that made choices very young & regret it & start to blame Parents & Doctors for not fully explaining the ramifications that goes along with such a choice when their brains haven't even matured fully. We all make choices when we are young that we wish we hadn't. I don't care about adults transitioning, that's their right but the problem is pushing it on kids. Transgender Folks have every right that all Americans have & this issue is going too far. The suicide rate of Transgender Folks is also high among Detransitioners. The Dr's forget to tell people that they will never have children, orgasms & will have to be on hormones for the rest of their lives (Which makes Big Pharma even richer) I say, do your research. Respect others opinions.
@@KitFoxboy a hardware fix to a software problem is not the answer. The changes are NOT reversible. Gender affirmation doesn't solve the issues for most of the kids you are speaking about. It's really sad that kids are pushed, yes pushed, into believing that they are trans gender and that transitioning will solve that issue instead of focusing on the actual real problem that is going on. When the kids reach the age of consent, they can do whatever they wish to their bodies. YOU don't have a clue and I suggest you do better research before making such a statement. Listening to people who do not push the agenda would serve you well.
The peoples business should not be help by random hateful idiots! Get a freaking clue mor0n
It’s happening! 🤙🏼 the people are finally starting to push back.
i had the same thought (:
It’s about time huh? Now the rest of the country needs to wake up.
@@patriotgrammy8632 Bud lite was all it took. We are a silly people.
Im sorry but if God doesn’t destroy America, he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.
FINALLY!!
Yall too late
Interesting to see how language is being seriously twisted to manipulate people.
"Gender affirming care" is as meaningful as telling a tattoo parlor, who were refusing to give a 10 year old a tattoo of an upside down pentagram (or any tattoo), as a violation of a minors religious freedoms.
They are so passionate about expressing themselves, but as what happened to Riley Gaines etc shows, not so respectful and tolerant of others expressing on how they are affecting HER community and personal safety.
I am so sick of manipulative language calling itself ''fair''. Tired of violence when others are speaking calling itself ''democracy''. I am beyond sick of language being used to conceal truth, calling itself oppressed.
These people are a fast moving cancer in society, and put others with true dysphoria in need of mental health care, lobbed in with a larger and much more violent group of autogynephiles, who are a very real danger to women AND young people of both genders.
Don't get fooled by the insidious tactics of weaponized language. Speak truth at it whenever you encounter it.
Very well said. I completely agree, but you articulated a lot better than I can.
Remember when they changed the definition of recession so they could say we aren't in one? They've done this quite a few times now.
The correct term is 'delusion affirming mutilation'.
I have thought often, those humans that suffer real gender dysphoria should be outraged with with what is happening in society, this community. I couldn't imagine the pain. But they are being used to push other narratives.
Gender mutilation has no affect on the percentage of trans-people killing themselves. Im amazed that such gaslighting was allowed to be spewed in the house 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Manipulating your partner with threats of self harm is abuse. But manipulating society with threats of self harm is "Oppression".
This isn't manipulation, she was outlining a fact. Do you feel like a big man attacking vulnerable people?
@@darthplagueisthewise5145 IT's a dude
@@THXx1138 and youre a bigot
Glad we got that sorted
@THX 1138 do you have a single good reason for being anti-trans or are you just a sheep to whats hip with the republican party
@@darthplagueisthewise5145 having lived with family that would threaten self harm, it is very much a manipulation tactic. No persons under the age of 18 should be trans-ing and people of all ages need to increase their emotional IQ. So, there is another side to this so-called fact, keep that in mind.
A mob of predators is not a community. It's a pestilence.
A pestilence that needs to be erradicated.
Yup, sodamites and pedos
Real! Keine troonden!
An unattractive man doesn’t become attractive by pretending to be a woman.
Neither. It's called the Teacher's Union.
They want freedom of speech and to be heard, until it's someone saying something about them or something they don't like.
That's called narcissism
Thank you Montana for bringing the rule of law to your own house. These people are ridiculous!
@Socialism Sucks they are not human
@Socialism Sucks Ok glowie. Stop trying to divide Americans and incite people to dehumanize others. You'd fit right in with the German National Socialist Party and the Maoist Communists.
@Socialism Sucks They are *indeed* vermin. They infect, undermine and destroy everything they touch. And they attack the most innocent and helpless, the children.
They want special privileges and refuse any accountability. Everything is everyone else's fault. She basically proved that she only cares about her community in the state and screw everyone else.
The Indigenous are being used by the communists to perpetrate the destruction of North American society.
Totally justified. Zephyr basically said he would refuse to follow the rules. He doubled down in that supposed defense. So there was no reason to show leniency.
As a native american we are so under represented it hurts seeing trans people receive so much protection and assistance with the white house and congress, most of our people don’t even have electricity or running water in our homes and the government takes funding away from our hospital every year. These treaties were made because our land was taken away it makes me angry that these people go after children and still they are given time to be heard and taken seriously. They act like they are under oppression when in fact they’re the most catered to demographic in the nation
It's a trick of the govt to prop up a "victim" group in order to condemn the majority and take actions on their true motives against the people. Give us our land and sovereignty and we'll be better off.
"These treaties were made because our land was taken away" everybody's land was taken away in human history. Would you rather have the same destiny as the armenians? The entitlement is real
You should learn from their struggle and take note of how to have your voice heard, if you feel they've been more successful. Hating another minority because they're having more success than your minority is exactly what the oppressors want. They want the minorities busy fighting each other, as you are eager to do, instead of looking up and fighting the people at the top pulling the strings.
@ZipMap I hate victim mentalities, but you are kinda entitled to provisions in a treaty. I would much rather we uplift and celebrate native culture rather than celebrate the alphabet crowd.
@@AlexM-oq5el How many years do you have to be taken by the hand?
At first I was like: NO! THAT'S NOT HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS!!
But then I saw what happened. And Yes, THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS.
The House has rules. Gone are the days where they go unpunished for violating other people's rights.
You have rights but it ends where mine starts (and vice versa).
You can not tell me that in the entire state of Montana there's not one single psych ward that Mr. Zephyr can be committed too. Clearly he's delusional and in need of some serious help.
😂👍
Honestly, it is likely the case. The left defunded and closed down psych wards years and years ago. The money that went to psych wards was used for social programs.
Don't get me wrong, MANY psych wards were far worse than prison and the patients got abused constantly. They needed reforms, not closed down.
Wood chipper.
I live in the beautiful state of montana and all I can say is I hate to tell you but our state mental hospital is run pretty badly but I would be ok if another state wanted to take this situation off of our hands!
@@dannygreen7473 add me to team wood chipper 👍🏻
This bill doesn't attack or hurt any transgender person, it just protects children. There's no such thing as Gender affirming care, it's child mutilation and it's sickening! You Go Montana!
The more the patients…$$$
@@RobRock-qr3hp
Follow the $$$... they couldn't care less about the kids.
Please don't ever move to cali, rethink it don't it.. the medical age for consent has been lowered to 12yrs, this is for both abortions and gender transitions, we just had chico high school in hot water due to a new law that allows schools not to tell parents about their child being trans, this what they are not understanding or they refuse to see because it has to be about them all the time, but gender or trans discussion is between the parents and child, they only seeing hurting them because they wanna have access to kids
You are absolutely right, and this is a lie that is being repeated continually by fanatical trans activists and their "woke" allies in media -- that protecting minors from unnecessary, dangerous, and demonstrably destructive medical procedures is an attack on all "trans" people. It's not.
And stealing women's future # Support Riley Gaines
I am having a hard time with a lot of this "movement" and the main one is why they blame others for self infliction? That blows my mind!
I know, right? Let's blame powerless kids as we take away what is proven by all current medical consensus as the best option for families that choose it, demonize them on media all day every day, and punish someone who is just like them trying to stand up to it. Seriously, you don't get how much stress this puts on kids? Go meet some trans people and hear them out before you just dismiss it as not your problem.
Narcissism. Threats of suicide when you don't get your way is text-book narcissistic abuse.
They're taught to be victims, it benefits them. If people are so sick that they feel they need to commit suicide by listening to people talk, they truly need help. EVERYONE hears their opinions and feelings, how can we not? We have it stuffed down our throats 24/7 by the activist media, the govt, and activist "medical" providers that are destroying trans people for ONLY ideological reasons- NOT for health reasons. The treatment for gender dysphoria has NEVER been surgery first, and NEVER for minors- it's always been therapy, and we will see in the years to come- we already are, that this social contagion will undermine annd destroy many children's lives and our society fundamentally. Just because we don't want to hurt people's feelings or tell THE truth, we are furthering the delusion. People don't get to just do whatever they want nor do they deserve special rights for ANY reasons. I don't care how people live their lives personally, but when their lifestyle starts to affect children and larger society because they are given special treatment, it needs to be constrained to their personal lives only.
Bc this is mental illness
@@KitFoxboy there is absolutely no medical consensus that says that it helps them whatsoever, they once believed your nonsense in Europe but now they are stopping these butcherings of children because they proved people like you wrong that it doesn't help at all. Even after the surgery's these so-called trans still have a 42% suicide rate, it doesn't help one single bit attempt
Love reading the comments, nice to know fellow Americans feel the way I do. Thought I was alone in my way of thinking.
Same here in Kentucky, the world has gone mentally ill ..
Asking the insane to understand sanity is a waste of time.
That's huge. We forget we're dealing with abnormal people. Nothing we do or say will suffice for people who don't even know who they are.
Exactly! That’s why you should never engage with a Democrat.
@@Shinobi33- Say you'll fucking stop taking away our rights! Say you'll call us by the names we ask you to call us by! Say you'll stop calling us groomers when our kids come out to us! How about all of that?!
Asking Republicans to understand anything is a waste of time.
If you're not trans you have no right to say what is good for us or not. I was a child once. I delt with gender dysphoria. It wasn't until I was older that I realized what trans was and was able to realize that I was born in the wrong body. I transitioned and had my realignment surgery. Understand these laws you're trying to force on them will not stop them from transitioning. You will not win. You can not fight it. You can not stop it. If a child is trans they will transition. whether you like it or not.
P.S.
You're tax's paid for my reassignment t surgery and breast's. Thank you for your'e support ❤☺😊😘 🏳⚧ 🌈
It’s strange how adults do not want children to wait and make an adult decision… I wonder why ?
WE ALL KNOW WHY
How do you get a kid to not call the police when you "touch" them? Make them accept it as normal.
Fact 1: More than 65% of Paraphilics are Pedophiles.
Fact 2: There is NO cure for Paraphilia.
If we're going that route, might as well send them to war and get rid of the drinking age. Lets start there before they start splicing their bodies.
Yes and people aren’t buying the whole temper tantrum threats they constantly use to get what they want. The drama isn’t winning anyone over. It’s doing the opposite
"do what i want or i'll kill myself" is the entirety of their arguments.
we should never yield to emotional blackmail
It's the spoiled brat syndrome.
Those terms are acceptable.
@@Kyle-sr6jm I won't do what you want and now it's your turn. 😂
They are blaming everyone else for mental issues and suicides to guilt them into being responsible, victimization at its best. Proper health counseling addressing underlying issues causing their unhappiness to do harmful things to their body is what they need.
What they want is not being accepted. It has nothing to do with democracy. It wants one thing, power, and all of it. Let them speak, and listen, and shut up. All this boo hoo oh my poor community is the lie they tell to pull at your heartstrings. It is insidious, and it is working and they will keep at it.
We need proper mental health now more than ever... the fact that people don't see this as insanity let's me kno just how far we've fallen. Make America Make Sense Again
So tired of them using the threat of suicide to blackmail people.
They are not only using suicide as blackmail they are saying that if you don't verify them that you are the one killing them.
@@lv-lp8bd all of the above, and not much actually achieved at the same time. That's the ugly truth.
Exactly. That person never said WHO, how many, and never said that there are MORE people committing suicide AFTER transitioning, than before. His whole speech was an ACT. It's not the TRUTH.
You think that is bad ? Just wait until the next phase where they stop threatening themselves and realize it is far more effective to threaten others instead . We have been seeing glimpses of it ; but that is the road we are quickly headed down sadly . But once parents finally take the blinders off and under the bright clear light of day see _exactly_ what these monsters wish to do to our children it will all come crashing down around them .
Nobody gave a rip what these people chose to do in the privacy of their own homes between consenting adults ; very few of us give a rip about their weird fetish's and kinks . The only reason we are being forced to even speak on these issues is because it is no longer about consenting adults and never truly was ; they wish to do unspeakably revolting and permanent things to children who are incapable of consent .
Sterilizing children is awful enough - butchering their genitals is worse still - mentally and emotionally scarring them is sickening , also ... SO MANY vile acts they feel somehow entitled to performing on other people's innocent children how are we even discussing these as if these people aren't monsters who in any past points of history would be hunted to extinction for their crimes against humanity ? ? Let us be clear about exactly what they wish for ours and their children . These monsters need mental health assistance or prison cells built UNDER the existing prisons , not positions of influence !
It’s like the emotional spoiled teenager who’s been told NO!! So they throw a hissy fit and threaten to kill themselves.
Transgender people are more likely to commit self extinction AFTER gender affirming surgery, usually around the 7 year post op.
Gender affirming and care cannot go in one sentence. Care is saying the truth in mental health.
The only true "gender affirming care" is looking at their DNA and going "you have a y chromosome, you are male, will always be male, and changing the plumbing won't change the fact you are STILL a biological male."
Gender affirming care= child mutilation and a lifetime of drugs and mental illness
Yes 🙌🙌👍🙌🙌
@@jernisharichard5032: Mental Health is the true state of affairs for the trans community.
You can’t endanger one group of people to make another group of people feel special!
Exactly !!!
💯👍👍
Exactly but unfortunately evil exists
OR MAKE A GROUP CALL TO BELIEVING A LIE OR SIN. REPENT,AND TURN FROM SIN.
JESUS CHRIST 🙏🏽 SAVE'S
Aka the minority…. Do they also know that Asians are considered as “minorities” in America? Or Hispanics? Are they suffering as much? No obviously not
I don’t believe her when she says she has a friends kid who tried to harm themselves while she was given that speech. Neither do I believe her when she says she is stopped in the hall and thanked. She was given time to speak. She said what she said. I listened to what she said, and my belief remains unchanged. I will not be blackmailed into action over threats of self harm.
THAT is NOT a SHE….
I want to hear from those 11,000 people that actually voted for this human. I am proud of the legislators that are standing up against this insanity.
Stalin said " It's NOT IMPORTANT WHO VOTES
BUT WHO COUNTS THE VOTES."
@@billywilliams6853 EWWWW THAT'S TRUE THOUGH.
Great news
Your blood is on your
Own hands if you off Yourself
Guaranteed it was the college and all the little GenZ emo kids.
We live in an age when you can blamed for someone else's suicide merely for stating facts and protecting kids! It's astounding!
There's a long history of communists brainwashing the public into rejecting knowledge on their rise to power. It's the most important step.
The blame on others is only in their imagination.IDGAF
Insanity
"merely protecting kids"!!!??!?!!?!? Hardly...
@@DavidCrigger yea also pushing back against scientific lunacy on behalf of the woke
Kudos to the Montana legislature for not allowing itself to be held hostage to narcissism and entitlement.
Now if we could only have a John Dutton kind of man as governor. He send few to train station.
Deep sick narcissism and desires to persuade our children
research mockingbird + sinclair soldiers_ {spread the message for the collective consciousness}
Amen.
Yes, let’s hold others accountable for other people taking their own life, makes total sense.
I’m embarrassed for my city.
I just want to point out how he talk about serving his community of 11,000 people and yet Missoula has 78,000 people in it.
What about the other 67000 people?
We all know what that representative means by their community, and it's not the straight folks, who actually want to protect children.
11,000 people voted to have him represent him in is what he meant . . and out of those 11,000 I bet maybe a dozen or so TOPS are trans so basically they think 'representative democracy' means 'I got elected and now I am going to represent MYSELF and only MYSELF' . . They don't have empathy , dignity , shame , morals -- there is nothing too dark or too evil -- whatever moves their goals towards completion they will do without question . This is so incredibly dangerous . .
This mind-virus is how societies collapse . We cannot treat these victims of the cancerous mind-virus as if they are just like everyone else because they are NOT .
Why did Missoula vote for him ?
Someone said only 4053 people voted in the state of Missoula which he won at 79.21%. So that state has 78000 people and mainly the pro T-birds voted. Why did the rest not bother ?
@@meisievannancy because Missoula is a very liberal city while the out lying areas are heavily republican.
I just don't understand the logic. You can't legally drink, have sex, get a tattoo, get married (the list goes on) til you are of a certain age. But you want to let minors have serious medical precedures that will affect their whole lives emotionally and physically
They wanted to pass a law that said babies had to give permission for their diapers to be changed. It's not a small step from that, to a child giving permission for sex. They have an ultimate goal, never forget that.
@johnnymcblaze It's just scary to me how things have changed so much the last few years. I hoped the original "going woke" idea would open peoples minds to other peoples issues, make people have more empathy and understanding, protect those who are vulnerable, etc
I couldn't have been more wrong 😔
@@soaf1985 If it's perpetuated by the media, ANY media, you can know its only there to distract and weaken We, the People. For instance, telling people to "do # your # own # research" is now considered anti Semitic propaganda and is deleted from social media as soon as it is written, unless you can fool the censors. And the censors get better every year.
That's the thing they don't think with logic. Which is why we're all stuck having to argue the obvious with them.
I agree with that, but I do think she is a good speaker
everyone that supported that dude not getting kicked out were all so weak willed and obviously evil.
I love how the media makes it sound like they kicked the representative off because they are trans gender but in reality it’s because they were interrupting the session which is against the rule.
Just more lies like we hear day after day after day. I don't believe a single word that anyone says anymore if it comes from any of the "traditional" propaganda, I mean "news agencys".. Today, if a person wants the real truth, you have to look for it, and use your God given brain!!
Democrats lie.
I mean.. tbh idc what the reason was, my real motive would've def been to get rid of this pest before it grows cancerously .. I bet most of the body has that same mentality 😂
Media is complicit in this madness!!
Tennessee showed them that if you’re black you’re allowed to do that and get your chair back.
We need more states like Kentucky. BAN ALL of this nonsense that involves any minor. From "DQ story hour" straight to surgery and medical "treatment."
Maybe learn about whats actually happening. Your leaders are lying to you. Think for yourself, sweaty.
AMEN.
Not just minors ban the entire BS period.
@@SouthernMocha-mf8ke why?
@@jasonmoran5152 he can’t tell you, and in 10 years he’ll forget having this opinion.
Hopefully more states in this country start following suit .. to even allow people with that level of mental instability into a power of position to begin with is mind boggling to begin with ... the more they get into positions of power the more bad off our country is going to get .. bravo to the Montana house of reps
As a Pre-Nursing Student, I just recently did a paper on Gender reassignment and the facts involved. Primary FACT, gender reassignment does NOT work. Most of these beautiful human beings are struggling with mental health. Many do commit suicide even after trans surgeries. And many even opt for reversal, after regret. Our children need our love, protection, and encouragement NOT pushing them to change the way they were born. Most importantly, we need to love love love these people where they are and pray our God and Creator will continue dealing with us in MERCY. We have become worse than Sodom and Gomorrah, and they were annihilated.
By the way, I'm a proud resident of northwest Montana.
Thank you. I have a friend who's 16 y/o sister was one of the most kind, patient, hopeful, and present people on this earth. Justs so unique and wonderful as a human. One of those people whos truly too pure for this world, had a gentle voice that perfectly matched her personality. After visiting my home town I saw them and couldn't believe it. I was told that after a 3 month bout of (very minor depression), she was led by a group of new friends to get her breasts cut off and her voice permanently altered like a man's. She was due to have her genitals removed too, but after not experiencing the complete psychological relief that she was told to expect from the mastectomy, she snapped out of it and canceled the last surgery. The whole thing did nothing but mutilate and traumatize the young girl.
She's an absolute shell of her former self now, still has that strange pseudo-man's voice despite stopping the drugs and has lost her old personality. She was the most peaceful human I have ever known, able to mesmerize people with her voice and incredible composure, but now you can easily sense this turmoil in her mind as well as the subtle anger under the surface for what was done to her.
This movement took a nearly perfect human being and just broke her-physically and mentally. My gut tells me she isn't going to be around for long tbh. I just feel awful for her.
It's made me question gay rights ALOT .....considering nearly every gay person I know (or even know _of)_ seems content, if not _happy_ with this happening to young girls like her.
Yeah, what no one dares to say because the trans lobby will go on a rampage if anyone says it out loud is that you can't detransition. The damage is irreversible, these kids never go back to who they were before. Jazz Jennings said it well: she doesn't ever feel like herself. It sounds horrific. But these men whose surgeries and hormone therapies didn't bring the miraculous feeling that they are women (which is normal as no amount of hormones and surgery ever change someone's sex) can't accept that they will never be whom they aspire to be, and so they are trying to turn children into the failures they are so they can feel good about messing themselves up. That's what's going on. The mids who are victimized by this can never go back. There is no such thing as detranstioning.
It's soon going to be a decision only for the child. That's a lot of pressure for someone who isn't old enough to drive. Do they want to get out of their depression by talking to their family and hoping they'll get support or do they want to try brute forcing their way to happiness with expensive surgery, drugs, and therapy? In some cases talking with friends and family has failed. Now where they get the money to do the second option is beyond me. It's more than $100k when all is said and done.
It's definitely a mental health issue. It's going untreated in the name of "acceptance," but you cant help people who are sick by accepting or coddling them. You help them by treating them.ou don't accept a broken arm, you put a cast on it. You don't accept someone's suicidal tendencies, you lock them down and get them a shrink.
And everybody ignores this high suicide rate.
- Hey Zephyr: Don't breathe your words.
- It's as politically expedient as dragging your nails over a chalkboard.
- Any adult who assists, in any way, the mutilation of a child's body should be imprisoned for life.
- The minimum sentence of any parent or teacher found to have egged an innocent child on, encouraging the kid to believe he/she "came out wrong" must be equal to that for kidnapping.
He thinks the breathy intonation makes him sound more effeminate.
Finally some Americans who still have common sense, for a minute l thought common sense was sold in huge stock bonds these days in America.
Capital punishment.
The breathiness is an attempt to be female 😏
“Bills that gets my community killed” I’m sorry but what I heard was that your community was killing themselves not the bills killing them
It was her "community" that drove Chappelle's trans friend to suicide.
Last time I checked, threatening suicide and using it for coercive manipulation was legally recognised as psychological and emotional ABUSE. And falls under domestic violence.
Join me in spreading that little fact to push back on this disgusting tactic they so often use!
Killing innocent adults and children is not their community
Broke back mountain 😅
They had been killing themselves for centuries before they began trying to normalize their mental illness.
How do the fringe groups get so loud a voice in Montana?!
The same way THEY are destroying everything in my State: Plants.
@@shaddowmystwolf 🌱
This is what happens when you elect a activist with their own agenda and that's what they want to use their pulpit for.
Amen
if it only were their agenda. It's some other communist psychos agenda and this freaks are just used as puppets to move their plans forward. This freaks must go.
It IS mental illness, after all, so it’s really not very surprising.
Correct. They will only serve their " own community "and not the normal people.
What if they were voted in on that opinion?
If you scroll through the comments you’ll feel relieved to know the overwhelming response reflects sanity.
Amén 😢🙏
Thank God
@@Public-jm1cb true that.
I mean when these people are told about trans children they always think about their genitalia. I think if the first thing you think of when talking about kids is child crotch you have a problem.
@@Public-jm1cb Far as I can see you're the only one who brought up genitals.
Agreed! Screw pandering to these mental freaks that want to force their lies upon the way you think and speak...
Using the risk of self annialation as a threat, is a common emotional blackmail tactic used by abusers.
And for those not familiar with abusers, one could say it's also a tactic used by shameless bullies.
Unfortunately it has also been programmed into these kids’ minds as the only other option if they aren’t given the care they demand. Therein lies the problem. Just denying gender affirming care may not be an option. It may have to include hospitalization and suicide watch depending on how deeply ingrained the indoctrination has become.
I say ok. We cannot be held hostage to mentally ill people. The inmates cannot run the asylum.
I’m glad people are waking up to this. Spot on, Ginger. I have always viewed the “do what we say or we will kill ourselves” as a classic abusive teenage boyfriend tactic.
Let them self delete, it is a problem that solves itself.
A stand has to be made. You go Montana!
It makes me mad when they blame *uicide in their community on anyone who disagrees with anything they do or say. There's zero care or respect for those being attacked by their community. If someone commits *uicide over a meeting meant to make all sides fair, there's way more bothering them on than that! It's so irresponsible to not understand that!
Suicide by definition is a personal act against oneself. It is usually an escape from a situation we feel we cannot control. However, in life events are routinely out of our hands. Learning to deal with it falls on you. Coping you learn.
First off, they are mentally messed up in the first place because they feel shamed by their biological gender. Nearly every transgender person has been in therapy for years by the time they have surgery. Think if it - how far does a person have to go psychologically to decide to permanently surgically change their sex organs and then be on hormone therapy with makes them 3 times more likely to have cardiac problems and shortens their life by 10-15%? And statically, fully transgender people have a suicide rate of 3 times the normal average. Honestly, they already have mental tendencies to commit suicide. Denying Healthcare (which when you are adult you can get any type of cosmetic surgery you eat if YOU pay for it) is a bunch of crap. They just want taxpayers to find all of their proceedures.
The important thing is to just let them continue offing themselves, and we need to stop pretending to care
When in fact they off themselves because once the Uthoria wears off the can't handle what they've done to themselves and the miriade of problems they've selfinflickted on themselves or its because they can't get the change quick enough. Saying it has to do with people who are against them is just a scapegoat so as to not rock the gravy train and make them look the victims they try to portray
I agree Lynette its the part of the ideology I cant stand. Suicide is a terrible thing but the framing the bloody framing. 'your laws/legislation opinion is killing my people' 'we are getting killed out here' No you are killing yourselves because you are mentally ill
Zephyr's claim people wanted to commit suicide because of watching House debates is anecdotal at best. "If" anyone actually said that, it is most likely any desire to take their own life resulted from a magnitude of other problems they experienced for many years, opposed to an instantaneous decision merely from listening to a debate. Further, the legislation Zephyr claims is harming anyone is nonsense; just the opposite is true, the legislation serves to 'prevent' harm to children with mental and emotional struggles from making potentially harmful decisions that should wait until adulthood to make, when they are physically, emotionally, and mentally capable of making life-altering decisions and consequences; and to protect children in general from exposure to material they are too young to understand that in any sane society would be deemed inappropriate for children. None of what Zooey Zephyr said was credible, and he does not sound fit to represent anyone if he can not even represent himself with honesty and integrity that was not on display here.
It's nonsense. Whoever brainwashed that kid is responsible if anyone took their lives.
i think it may have just been the 'watching house debates' that brought on suicidal thoughts
Political leaders have been making trans individuals feel like they're wrong for merely existing. So yes, there have been actual suicides.
I hope that if you ever have kids, grandkids, or even great grandchildren, and one of them has struggles with their own sexual orientation, you will be more supportive.
@@RobiBue 😂😂😂😂😂
What were the fine people of Montana thinking when they voted this man into office. Unreal
We thought it was crazy when they voted for a wrestler .
Pretty sure the only people that voted this guy into office were from a very tiny very concentrated blue district attached to a college, which tells you everything.
It's the people of the second largest city in the state. City people and their city ways.
"I am soooo not a bigot! aren't I great?! I'm practically martin luther king!"
Maybe that man was installed 🤨 like the resident they now call President🤔
Why is it that gay and trans people are all lumped into one category? It’s never made sense to me.
CONGRATS TO THE PEOPLE OF MONTANA,FOR ELECTING PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT IMPROPER CONDUCT,NO MATTER FROM WHOM IT MAY CONCERN! GOD BLESS YOU!
IT'S ABSOLUTELY EVIDENT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REGARD FOR THE RULES OF DECORUM OR EVEN MORALS!
I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO OTHER STATES WHERE THEY ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO MAKE THEIR OWN RULES AND STANDARDS!
WHAT?? COULDN’T HEAR YOU. 😂😂😂
just teasin. I agree with your post. And your VOLUME!! Lol
It literally almost caused a whole riot and did endanger the other 99 members… HEEEEEE has got to go!!!!
The Roman Empire before it was squashed didn't have the tech to do it but paintings found in Pompii promoted this garbage ! Many in the Corp tryerd tpo quit by saying I commit suicide when given the knife and after being shown HOW they declined 1% isn't a Majority !
Plus this is just a distraction so the WEF can assualt us more Digital Dollar will destroy the Biden administration
Decorum?! Are they a bunch of whimps that can't take criticism from a trans person?! She has a voice. She said nothing threatening. If they FEEL that hurt by what she said, well, the old saying if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!
I'm so sick of all the transurections being labeled as "ppl protesting the gov to be heard" WHILE THE 1-6 PPL ARE STILL BEING HELD IN JAIL FOR YEARS WITHOUT A TRIAL
January 6th Prisoners dear.
Why are lying? Every Jan 6 insurrectionist had a trial.... each and every one. And the difference you can't seem to comprehend is the level of violence. Violent protesters in the USA are nearly always arrested and unlike so many protests the Jan 6 protestors weren't arrested then and there - the obvious advantage of being both predominately white and right wing. Had the Million Man March ended with storming the Capital, the streets would have been littered with the bodies of dead black men stack sky high.
@@MysteriouslyMilitant did the person delete their comment?
I would" like" your comment 1000 times if the platform allowed it! Right to a speedy trial? Our Constitution is being bludgeoned to death,
While those presumed innocent under the law rot in prison!
Everyone gets a trial, The proud Boys are getting convicted, this very week...Stop lying....
These people are insane I’ve watched these kids devastated by what was done to them when they were too young to understand the ramifications of these serious so called gender confirming care One said after having the most radical surgery Why didn’t someone save me from myself Because now I’m completely destroyed for life Wait till these kids are old enough to understand Why is this even discussed
😢...
THE PARENTS THAT ARE DOING THIS ON THEIR CHILDREN SHOULD BE ACOOUNTABLE AND BE JAILED..
How would you take care of children with gender dysphoria ? These children do not feel well, how would you treat them ?
@@leshommesdupilly counselling, support, education & !information. NOT chopping bits off their young bodies and stopping them from ever experiencing an orgasm or mutilating them for financial gain, it’s barbaric! Can’t have a tattoo until 18, can’t drink until 21, yet allowed to make drastic life changes? Get a grip on reality!
And the doctors as well !
@@Jordan1000 you can’t get these surgeries under 18 unless there is extreme risk of suicide. Even then the earliest anyone can get any of these surgeries is 16.
@@leshommesdupilly The same way you'd treat someone with Autism. NOT by accepting mental disorders and telling them to just move on.
Time to stand up for morality
Spoken like a true Klansman. Unfortunately, people who say things like that never REALLY know what morality is.
And sanity.
And reality. No man in drag should patronise or compete against, women and children should not even be aware of made up narcissistic fantasies of fully grown men
@@hootowl6354 people who think eunuchs are women have no idea what reality is.
@@hootowl6354They may "never REALLY know what morality is," but they do know what amoral reality is.
Thank you Montana for doing the only decent, moral thing. Our children are our future, they must be protected at all cost.
Although I agree. Really the focus should be YOUR children are YOUR future so raise them to protect themselves at all cost. If the trans movement eventually wins (leave it to the Democrats to get this done) then parents are going to be legally helpless to save their children. The children will have to save themselves. Natural selection.
Totally Agreed. We also need to get rid of no-fault divorce laws. Too many children's lives are being destroyed over selfish reasons.
I think the whole LBA+GTI thing needs shut down. I do not support clowns. Or none of it.
That man is despicable. He didn’t ‘speak up’ about ‘her’ community he verbally attacked Christians and prayer. He’s disgusting and I love that he’s silenced. His tears are delicious!
If you thought the tears are good just wait till you find out how good the blood is.
Look at it this way: he's doing the Devil's work..and the Devil knows full well who his enemies are and what their most effective tools are.
I hope he isnt silenced, but rather he realizes the obvious
It is not ours to judge, that is God's place. Christians preaching hate again. Who did Jesus hate?
@@TheMadKeyboard Stop calling on your Imaginary Friends to make excuses for what you do or fail to do.
Thank you Montana for maintaining a rule of decency .
YW
@@margaretthatcher6828 Thank you for fighting back against the trans-terrorists and trans-insurrectionists
@@margaretthatcher6828 wait a fellow Montanan? Nice! But question! Bobcats or the griz?
"...Rule of Decency"? Not a very Christian thing to say. Better, yet, the Golden Rule. It allows for Decency and the appropriate use of Loss of Decorum, while respecting the use of both.
@@nichkey5315 Bobcats. I went to college there when it was called moo U. Born and raised. Moved out of Bozeman...can't stand what they did to it. Take care.
Just cuz you're offended and your mental stability is so weak that you want to delete yourself over something that literally won't hurt you doesn't mean you're right. These people sound literally insane and shouldn't need a mic to express these delusional realities.
I seriously doubt that Zephyr is doing a fair job in representing the constituents of the 100th district instead Zephyr is pushing self beliefs and ideals.
His actual name is Zachary Raash.
Thank you all for allowing a show of support in SANITY!!! This damaging manipulating of logic, to suit an agenda, must stop!
This Trans lawmaker just shows everyone who they really are. As well as the Trans shooter in Nashville think therapy and help is what these poor souls need.
Good grief. How did this person get voted in. This country is becoming freaking insane🙄
Not becoming, has BEEN insane for close to a 2 decade, its just everyone is just now seeing the consequences of the poor decisions.
large portion of the country is living in a complete fantasy world. They forgot the real hardships of life.
Must have been a very low turn out of voters, and most of them were DNC assets who would vote more than once.
Exactly my concerns is as well!! They need to go back in the closet and stay there!!!
He represents Missoula, also known as Zootown.
I'm not surprised.
Missoula is a college town and woke.
I had no idea that Montana had so many freaks in it. WOW!
Yeah really that hunchback lady with the glasses in the suit with the black hair was something else
@@c.h.u.d I guess you didn't notice the transvestite?
I have a feeling people are forgetting what Democracy means.
Democracy does not mean getting your way by throwing tantrums and screaming at the top of your lungs.
Democracy does not mean everyone else must adhere to the minority number of votes.
Democracy means the people vote, the majority rules, the losers sit down - shut up - and accept it.
Don't like it? You're more than welcome to move to another country and try your version of democracy there.
Good luck with that.
Well there is such a thing as The Tyranny of The Majority but in this case It's The Tyranny of The MINORITY.
TRANS-WOMAN AREN'T WOMAN.
I thought about leaving Washington for Montana, but wow I can’t believe the fight they are bring into all states !!! Stand against this insanity.
It's getting bad in all states
I am in Washington too, and we can't change anything by running. We have to vote against it here and now, or it will spread everywhere.
How was he even allowed on the floor to begin with!??? If you're a cross-dresser and it makes you happy, GREAT!! Whatever gets you through the day, this tho, is sickening!! THANK YOU "The House", I'm shocked you all were brave enough to even do this!! Maybe there is hope for our future....
SHE was voted in by her constituents! To represent EVERYONE! This is the most repulsive act by a state legislation I've ever seen. You are all on the wrong side of history.
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I have a question, If this person were to identify as a Black or Latino and demand they be regarded as such, would they be given the same rights and not looked at as being completely deluded? He is not a woman and is appropriating female gender. It is insulting and degrading. When is this nonsense going to stop!
@@Fitzroy2023 what side of history are you speaking of? Reality?
I'm guessing the history you refer to is in the fairy tales section in your local library.
Finally, a legislature did the right thing.
He is a he. That can't be changed no matter how hard a person tries.
Hands off the KIDS, Zooey.
That's right, Mr. ZOOEY. I agree with Deborah and the rest of America! Hands off the kids!
Hands off the kids, Deborah.
What’s that things real name?
@@loribelmores6061 I believe he calls himself Ms. Zooey Zephr?
@@newjerseyyouth4853 New Jersey youth? Deborah and the rest of the world say hands off the kids! Are you a child? No mutilation surgery under 18. No twisted hormone blockers or any other acts of child abuse. Eighteen is the consent of legal adulthood unless otherwise specified per state. All doctors, parents, guardians, etc that engage in these acts of mutilation or abuse should be charged with crimes against humanity.
So, Zooey talked about suicides within the community they belong to.. IF, anyone else said they were going to kill themselves, and called into the hotline.. They'd be talked out of it, and asked to seek therapy. You can change your body, but if you're having mental health issues. It doesn't matter how much physical work you do.
Most of those suicides after after they're surgical rearranged and not finding fulfillment.
Physical exercise can help with many types of mental health issues, but not all. In this case here, it likely wouldn't help. 😒
*he belongs to
I love how Zooey zephyr says it’s a ban on gender affirming care, but neglected to say that it’s gender affirming care *FOR CHILDREN* (I.e. hormone replacement therapy, as well as surgery) 😐
When you listen to the MANY detransitioning horror stories it is heartbreaking to hear of the permanent damage done to children, teens and young adults by the insane surgeries and hormone ‘therapies’ so readily available. It is DAMAGING, unhealthy and bad ‘medicine’, not to mention mentally agonizing when these transsexuals realize that changing/mutilating the outside does not heal the inside.
@@firstmedtech ...but it makes someone a dollar to fatten their pockets... :(
@Pwntang07 That statement was TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. It tells me you haven't listened to ANY of the thousands of people who have regretted doing the hormone and sex change things. They try to reverse it and can't. I call on you to PLEASE listen to some of THOSE, BEFORE you do ANY campaigning for the PRO- hurting of children's bodies. They CANT reverse it, if they change their minds. People are being LIED to.
Groomers like him never tell the truth.
Think of all the drugs trans must take to maintain estrogen or testo levels.
Well done, Montana house! It's so refreshing to see people not falling for the emotional blackmail.
Good job Montana!!!
Well put, exactly what this is, emotional blackmail. How did these ppl get elected? Wow, concerning, deeply.
Well, as a Montanan I can say, it’s hard to get us to take shit! Everything about Montana can carve and chisel a man down to a better self!
Kids dont even get to choose what they eat... FOR GOOD REASON.
Why can't they talk without sounding like they're crying? I don't want an emotional mess in charge of everyone.
They think you’ll feel sorry for them and then agree with them, it’s emotional manipulation and most of it is lies anyway, that’s why democrats seem to love Biden coz he tells personal stories and experiences and it tugs at their heartstrings instead of presenting facts about politics
They’re immediately visually identified as mentally ill yet think they’re entitled to impacting policy and making decisions to destroy children’s lives. Sick!
Their probably nervous about being reticuled by the kiddo-tiddlers
The mentally and emotionally ill do that
I personally wouldn’t want her in charge of anyone either. However, she was elected by the people who live there. In a representative democracy we must honor the people’s vote.
She literally took the "do what I want or ill kill myself" gambit to the legislature.
You mean he. Zoey is a dude.
He.
Ikr!!!!
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Drama ironically they have zero pride
I just wish his community would leave the rest of us the hell alone.
All 99+% of us!!!!!!!!
They won’t they want us to bow to the LGBTQIA’s mafias agenda .
🎉😢🎉😢🎉😢. YES 🙌💯💯🙌
Funny that’s exactly what anyone trans is probably thinking they wish the community would leave um alone and let them be who they want but we all live in America as long as rad dem and transphobic are hear the nation won’t get left alone on this topic until their all gone
They want our children.
It may be kudos to the Montana State legislators, shame to the Americans who aren’t standing up to this insanity.