Eurovision 2024: Jury VS Televoting
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Eurovision 2024:
Albania: Besa - "TiTAN"
Armenia: Ladaniva - "Jako"
Australia: Electric Fields - "One Milkali (One Blood)"
Austria: Kaleen - "We Will Rave"
Azerbaijan: Fahree -
Belgium: Mustii - "Before the Party's Over"
Croatia: Baby Lasagna - "Rim tim tagi dim"
Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - "Liar"
Czechia: Aiko - "Pedestal"
Denmark: Saba - "Sand"
Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - "(Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi"
Finland: Windows95man - "No Rules!"
France: Slimane - "Mon Amour"
Georgia: Nutsa - "Fire Fighter"
Germany: Isaak - "Always on the Run"
Greece: Marina Satti - "Zari"
Iceland: Hera Bjork - "Scared of Heights"
Ireland: Bambie Thug - "Doomsday Blue"
Italy: Angelina Mango - "La noia"
Latvia: Dons - "Hollow"
Lithuania: Silvester Belt - "Lukltelk"
Luxembourg: Tali - "Fighter"
Malta: Sarah Bonnici - "Loop"
Moldova: Natalia Barbu - "In the Middle"
Netherlands: Joost Klein - "Europapa"
Norway: Gåte - "Ulveham"
Poland: Luna - "The Tower"
Portugal: Iolanda - "Grito"
San Marino: Megara - "11:11"
Serbia: Teya Dora - "Ramonda"
Slovenia: Raiven - "Veronika"
Spain: Nebulossa - "Zorra"
Sweden: Marcus & Martinus - "Unforgettable"
Switzerland: Nemo - "The Code"
Ukraine: Jerry Heil and Alyona alyona - "Teresa & Maria"
United Kingdom: Olly Alexander - "Dizzy"
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Never expected Ireland would get even more from juries and tele… and the 666 place is just perfect😂
Ireland is 6th in juries, 6th in televoting and 6th overall
Ritual was successful ig
Bambie Thug have, from now on, rebranded as "Bambie 666". 😅
It's a great performance and stage show. It's theatre. Do you really think she sits at home like that watching Netflix? Lmao!
And the point difference between irelands televote and jury is 6 lol
@@someone-jv7jx I didn't even realize that. 🤯
wait , that's actually really close , only like 5 songs has a huge difference and even then 13 places is small for the largest gap
Sure but even 1 place difference is a huge deal when we are talking about the top spot. Especially when the jury gives a single song so many points that it’s borderline impossible for anyone else to win
Cope 13 is a lot
Both the juries and the televoters after making the worst fucking decisions imaginable:
Tbh, the jury really failed with Ukraine and Croatia. But at the same time I'm glad that the televote isn't the only evaluation method.
Glad to see that atleast audience had some sense of humor when it came down to Finland's performance 😂 15th place would not have been so bad for us
Sweden 11th got only 49 points from public so Finland i think it was 30 something like that
Basically everyone did well. I'm glad that for Luktelk public compensated a bit for lack of jury. Impressed with Dons getting juries and televote. Lol the result for Bambie. You are showing that Nemo did well both with jury and televote. I love all that you showed to bits. People that I had never heard before the start of the season have become playlist favourites.
Love that Estonia and UK switched positions😂 Estonia 13th in Televote and 25th in juries while UK 25th in televote and 13th in juries
This tells me that Estonia would likely have NQd if there had been 50:50 jury in semis
@@johnoflaherty9105 Yeah probably. The juries would have tanked them. Same with Finland too
Croatia - 1st an 3rd, Switzerland - 1st and 5th. And Switzerland won. I don't know, it doesn't feel right... it should have been Croatia
No
@@gwwademan yes
Cry
Because Switzerland’s jury vote was substantial, higher than Croatia’s televote.
@@katkat7481Another time Switzerland must pay more
Unfortunately, juries are not merit-based.
It's a rigged game 😔
It is difficult not to be suspicious
Insane the UK got 0 televotes! Was expecting at least 10
I felt pretty bad for olly
The price you pay for skipping the semi-finals
Why, though? Horrible song, and a stage performance that was really just straight-up p0rn. Why should anyone vote for that?? It is freaking deranged, where this society has gotten to. And yes, I dislike straight p0rn being broadcast in that way, too. WTF happened to privacy, dignity, boundaries, and protecting kids watching this show?? It's like we're living in some kind of psychotic, gaudy, depraved Hunger Games. And yes: that very much ALSO goes for the sex denialist winner, promoting the horrible, regressive, dangerous cult that is gender ideology, and glorified delusion + dissociation from physical reality. Again, influencing droves of vulnerable kids and teens, into thinking biological reality is of utterly no importance, and their bodies are just meaningless clay to be dismissed and reshaped, because sex ain't real. And somehow your delusional ideas and concepts in your HEAD are more real and important than your actual body.
Sincerely: bi TERF, who never in a billion years thought it would ever get to THIS point, when the fight for gay rights, in the face of very REAL homophobia, was where we were still at. Whereas now, the right for people to pretend like sex isn't real, and demand that everyone else pretends along with them, to the EXTREME detriment of women and children..? NO. Holy crap, the world has turned into an absolute nightmare.
I thought he was going to get a least 10 points at least olly was able to take the zero points in good spirit
It was disgusting filth and cheap porn set in a public bathroom but then again that's what a lot of gays are into I suppose
STOP Jury Vote
Isn't it sad that some participants like Marina and Silvester ended lower than other countries like Sweden and Portugal? Don't get me wrong, i liked Portugal's song, but it only took 13 votes from the public and it was 7th from the jury. That's a huge gap. It's sad that Marina was 8th from the public and Silvester 10th and they ended up lower than Portugal and Sweden ( because Portugal and Sweden was out of the top 10 from the public vote.) I don't know , it's sad because i truly can't understand why Sweden got so many votes from the jury. It really feels like some things are so obvious that are happening for the wrong reasons...
I can sort of see why, because the jury comes from the music industry and look at what songs would potentially be global hits. Sweden's song which i like to call forgettable, is just a ordinary radio buster and on the global stage it would be able to play on the radio multiple times a day... It's a safe and uncontroversial song but still highly marketable to a wide audience outside of the Eurovision scene. Even if i really for example liked Bambi's performance since it was very impressive, the song without any visuals? Erm... yeah, it ain't the same.
There's also ofc. some bias involved, many in the music industry simply love(or hate) Sweden because music have sort of been one of our more respectable exports for many decades now. More people then one would think come here to get help with staging, lyrics, marketing etc. So basically that reputation will make some people biased.
@@magnuscarlsson9969I agree with you on some point. But Austria had a very similar song with Sweden ( I'm saying this because Austria's song could be a global hit too, play on the radio etc) and it didn't get a high place from the juries. I just believe that maybe there are some reasons why juries voted Sweden so high because the song itself was nothing in front of others. Maybe they voted Sweden because Sweden was the host. I don't know, Sweden seems to be always in the top 10 for some reason i don't know
@@meowmeowkkk Yeah as i said that's probably because of the bias itself. Sweden being a unremarkable country in most aspects kind of ensures people don't have much of a negative bias towards us which let's those minor positive things shine trough.
This happens pretty much every year, we send some forgettable(even if it's polished) act and we usually land at a decent position.
I blame this on us basically owning certain parts of the European music industry. Many years there's multiple songs in the contest who have Swedish connections, most commonly it's the songwriters but also choreographers etc.
Thankfully i don't have to think much about my own country's representation and to be fair i don't watch Eurovision as a competition by itself, I watch to see all the acts and don't really care much about how many points they get. I did however got worried last year because i don't like when we host Eurovision, half of the fun is to see someone else host.
@@magnuscarlsson9969 Thank you very much for your answers! I watch the show since i was a little kid and it always made me happy that we can see many countries and cultures through the show , and that's the beauty about it. I wish Eurovision will focus more to music in the future 🙏
Your acting like countries don’t know there is a Jury Vote as well as the Televote in the final, it’s on the countries if they cannot appeal to both equally, not the voting system.
The jury's vote killed Croatia and Ukraine's chances. 🥹
Why don't they award first place to the highest placing rather than the most points accumulated.
12 points for 1st, 10 points for 2nd, 8 points for 3rd, 7 points for forth, 6 points for 5th, 5 points for 4th, and so on. Switzerland came 1st with jury and 5th in televote, Croatia came 1st with the televote and 3rd with the Jury. Switzerland 17 Croatia 20. and so on
5th in televote and win whole thing?
This is just sad.
Why? The song is good. Cry
@@katkat7481stop commenting everywhere lol
@@putridname I'm on a trip I literally got nothing to do 😭
The EBU is corrupt. This Eurovision song festival is a disgrace
Would have expected Austria, Italy and Spain to have done better with televote, Lithuania perhaps a little better with jury. I suspected Portugal to be equivalent of Estonia 2023 and placed a bet for Top 10 finish.....
Why is Norway in the bottom? People don't like ethnic rock?
Ireland screamed better
Was Jury suggested to vote for Sch?
Obviously not
Idk but either way they would have got many votes from the jury cuz the song is worthy
@@katkat7481 Many but not 300+ points, almost every country gave 12 points to switzerland and 1 country gave 12 points to croatia, when the croatia was obviously everyone's favorite, while switzerland was top 3 at best. The jury vote is obviously rigged, the jury gave so many points to switzerland that it was impossible for anyone else to win, even tho croatia got like 400 points from the televote, while switzerland got 200, still lost.
Yes, The Code was certainly no Tattoo.
Eurovision last night was shit. Terrible, the worst I remember
One of the best for me
@@daintydalmatian It's a matter of opinions...
@@guillermogomez7697 that’s my opinion, I literally said for me
@@daintydalmatian Ok
It was ok 'till the 2nd Semifinal, then it became only politics and became awful🤢
JUSTICE FOR GÅTE
The Estonian song is very good, amazing that the people like it so much more than the Jury did. 12 places is a huge difference. The jury liked the Portuguese song far better than the people did. People will look back and realized that the Norwegian Entry is underrated. The best quality worse scoring song that should have been higher up on the list.
Justice for Joost!
No
@@daintydalmatian He didn’t do anything wrong, but sure go ahead and make your own twisted narrative, because you dislike him for some reason.
@@bestevaar7195 the police is on him lol ur boy is cookd
@@daintydalmatian the police are done with him and they have already made a statement. He didn't touch anyone lol
@@daintydalmatian The camerawoman doesn’t want to talk or release the camera footage. The police have watched the footage and came to the conclusion that he didn’t touch her. Get your facts straight
Germany got more then 0 points by jury and televotes and both not last 3 position pog😮
No surprise to me and many others
Israel difference 10, how is this fair
The Eccho Camara remembered Berlin in the 40s.
Try to ignorate the true, a country and their prople is fascism
Evil 1966 1969 boom bang 1972 1983 1988 1992 1995 2002 2008 2011 2021
Really embarrassing to leave out a country on purpose 😂😂
Yeah, for EBU with the Netherlands
True@@briefeule
Agreed
Still cant believe my country isnt here
Takeaway: Croatia would've won without Israel, Israel would've won if The Netherlands wasm't disqualified
Why wouldn't Switzerland have won in these scenarios?
Real winner robbed again, for the second year in a row 🙁
“Real winner” these are the rules so find something else to cope about
Nemo had the best song and deserved to win, cry about it
Its again jury winner, not an audiences winner
@@Dawid-qr7dx in this case the jury was right I'm sorry. Last year I was on kaarija's side cuz Loreen's song was mid and pretty much copied. But Nemo's song is better at everything, the vocals are there, the melody is there, the production is there, the staging is there, the song is basically perfect.
@@katkat7481 bro switzerland literally ripped of an aria of the queen of the night from the magic flute, and you're saying that's not copied?
Italy is the best of all.
Unbelievable that UK got zero. With all his gay fans etc in Europe it's ridiculous to think NOONE voted for UK song!!!
Really? He has lots of gay fans? Then why does he not have hit songs any more? I think they should have picked an artist that people actually like. If this performance appealed to you maybe try Triga Films
I think he probably did get votes, but perhaps was the 11th choice of many so did not register. A bit like Black Smoke in 2015. But this did surprise me
@@johnoflaherty9105 It was horrible and cringey to watch. Like he's aspiring to be as vile as Sam Smith which is nothing to be proud of
@@davejackson3284 agree it was cringe and not speaking as a "homophobe"
@@johnoflaherty9105 You don't have to be a homophobe to know that a family show shouldn't resort to that kind of denegeracy to garner attention. It was horrible.
bro
*UK should win the trophy for the most votes from televote*
No I think someone else is getting that..And the difference is staggering indeed..
I’m only now realizing that this is the first time in Eurovision history that an artist came 5th in either the jury or the televote, and still won.
And its sad
Breaking all sorts of barriers are Nemo. 😅
@@philipdawson7800 Trendy let's jump on the bandwagon and pretend not to be a gender, which is physically and biologically impossible. Good performance but the essence of the song is shit!
Wrong, both maneskin and Ukraine 2022 were in 5th place and still won
@@katkat7481 Nope, they were 4th in juries.
Iolanda got only 13 points from televote😢
Yes, 6 from Luxembourg, 5 from France, 2 from Switzerland.
@@Asa...S how can you read/see it???
@@Denizzzzzzzzzzzzz0 Eurovision world has all the stats.
She decided make politic
@@Sara-xu6wwWhere?
Prove that.
If you are talking of she asking for peace.. don't you wish peace?
And also, people voted since the beginning of the show.. they didn't wait for the 18th song to vote 13 points to Portugal.
Don't use false arguments.. the reason for such a difference is, the jurees recognises quality and televote commercial songs.
Croatia 🇭🇷 was more better than Switzerland.
Given that EU consumer regulations prohibit misleading the customers, shouldn't Eurovision Song Contest
be ordered to urgently change its name to something more truthful - like say, Euroidiots Song Contest?
Eurojuryrobbing Song Contest
Baby Lasagna and Marina😔
JURY votes higher than public votes (Jury+):
Norway, Latvia, France, Austria, Spain, Sweden, Italy, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Germany, UK, Portugal
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PUBLIC votes higher than Jury votes (Public+):
Slovenia, Ukraine, Croatia, Georgia, Serbia, Cyprus, Greece, Lithuania, Finland, Estonia
Interesting.
That tall a lot.
Thanks for the summary!
Honestly the difference in points matters more than the difference in placement, because some song get a very different amount of songs from songs that are two spots ahead of them for example, but some don't really
Thats a year when we should be happy we have juries
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Hell nah lol, the worst ever jury performance
No but like what was israels tho im actually curious. I get not including them in rankings but i feel like they should be in data videos. At least just a placeholder
take all the jews into consideration
12th in jury, 2nd in public, so 10 places difference
Hi Giorgio! What's the theme song in the end? I feel I KNOW it, just can't find it...
It’s a WINNNERRR Fløre Monster SO GOOD
@@ESCGiorgio OH YESSS! I'ts a WINNER no doubt! 😍Going STRAIGHT to my ALL-TIME BEST playlist! 🤗
Great video that shows exactly how the televote scores are generally way more accurate 😊
You skipped the best country
Sadly Poland wasn’t in final😔😔
Sadly Denmark wasn’t in final ..😭
Sadly Czechia wasn't in the final😢
Sadly, Belgium wasn't in the Final
Sadly, Australia wasn't in the final :(
We want change. Jury out, power to the people!
Israel provided the software for the televoting so they could give themselves a few hundred points
I also think the Israeli televote should be investigated.
It had an ok song, nothing extraordinary. No hype amongst the fans, no large number of views in social media, no interest from the bookies. No indication whatsoever of being popular so the 300+ votes are super suspicious.
And messing with the televote has been done in the past. Remember when Azerbaijan got penalised for that?