Thank you for your EXCELLENT video contribution to the DIY community. If I may suggest to your viewers (and provide further assistance), I would like to suggest them to check the voltage coming to the solenoid terminal (the one that is not grounded) to ensure that the starter switch is not defective and actually a 12V voltage is present on the quick connect terminal prior to the solenoid removal and replacement. They can simply use a voltmeter or a small 12V bulb to make sure that actually the current would be supplied to the solenoid when the user cranks the starter switch position, and then proceed to the starter solenoid replacement if the voltage to the energizing terminal is present. I hate to see after replacing the solenoid they find out that the starter switch is actually defective and not the solenoid. Hope this is helpful to your audience, and God bless you for your initiative to make this video.
Hi Gordon, G'day, Paul from Australia here. Thank you for all the valuable information in this video. I had to change the soleniod on my ride-on mower and was sold a 4 post to replace the 3 post. Replaced it ok but nothing until I watched your video explaining about the ground (earth) wire. None came with the kit so I had to build one and hey presto! The mower now starts first turn of the ignition switch. Thanks again for your video. Well done!
Glad to hear it helped Paul. I had the same problem as you when I changed mine on my zero turn but as a former auto mechanic, I had the tools and experience to find out what to do pretty quick. This style makes it universal where as the 3 contact is only good on a grounded metal frame unless you add a ground wire and mount it under the mounting ears on a plastic mount area. Always good to hear where people are from, not sure which way to go to Australia from here in the middle of the States, east or west, maybe the same distance either way.
A very clear explanation, which I appreciate, and the camera angles were perfect the whole time you were working and explaining how the circuits worked. Thanks for this video - I'd hate to cross wire something and burn up my lawn tractor. On my old Snapper, the wire from the solenoid to the starter is black, not red, and I can't find my owner's manual; Snapper's website is of little help in getting manuals for older models, from the days before Briggs & Stratton acquired Snapper, so I really appreciate your video.
Thanks for your help I got a Troy pony for 100.00 I suspect this is the starting issue..same mount area ty for the help..also putting new starter on I got from eBay for 35.00
One spade connector is for ground the other spade is to trigger the internal relay. I can't see that these wires are interchangeable on a four connector relay.
Hi, Gordan. Thanks for the video. I recently replaced a 3 post with a 4 post and my MTD still would not start. With the 3 post solenoid there was already a “Green wire” from the negative cable to the battery that was grounded to the screws on the back of the solenoid and body of the mower. Replacing with a 4 post there is the additional wire that connects to the solenoid as you show and is grounded to the back of the solenoid and the body of the mower. Both wires are grounded and the mower doesn’t start. Should I not ground one of the wires or how should I properly connect the 4 post? Thanks
Wish my Huskee was that easy to fix. 6 days now trying to get mine running with no luck. All I did was drop the deck to replace the belts and steering shaft...put everything back on and wouldn't crank. Bought new battery and solenoid....still nothing. It'll start if I use a screwdriver on both solenoid terminals but not with the key in the ignition. Paying $80 a week to have my 2acre yard mowed is getting expensive real fast.
My cub cadet lt1045 has the same setup under the seat. I just replaced the selanoid, the starter, the fuse, and the battery with all new ones and yet I still get absolutely no power at all when I turn the key. The blade is up and the parking break is on and I already tried the disconnecting the seat sensor trick and still nothing. I just ordered a new ignition switch as well. If that also fails, would you have any idea what else it could be?
I have the same mower. Started giving me trouble starting so I replaced the battery because it was 4 years old and it smelled bad and wouldn't keep the charge. I replaced the battery and now it won't crank. Won't click or anything. Any suggestions?
You need to bypass the solenoid and hit the starter directly with cables, if it cranks then, then you need to chase the problem in the wiring, dirty ground, or other contacts, ignition switch, safety switches etc.
I have a Dixon 5502 1997 that runs and cuts great. My issue is it will only start with the PTO engaged. What is going on? Anyone know??? Start it up and turn PTO off and works great. Blades work when starting... not good. HEEELLLP PLEASE
I'm pretty slow, I think I would have needed an hour if I were not recording, I probably used 1-1/2 hrs. but doing the battery pan at the same time, I probably spent half the day myself.
I can't foe the life of me get to my solenoid on troy bilt bronco....its around battery compartment area to mounted to frame but it's not directly behind and I can't remove from the outside...do I have to remove frame or plastic middle cover in order to gain access to this little compartment area?
It really shouldn't be too hard to get to it, maybe you have a friend or neighbor to help you find it, or ask your mechanic to look at it. I can't tell you without seeing it.
Ok I got it out...now I tested it and it's fine...getting 12 volts to it and out of it...so next thing I want to test is starter cable and then starter....how would I test starter cable to make sure it is not dropping voltage due to bad copper strands? How to perform a drop test of the cable?
Thank you Gordon, for some reason in my 61 years I have never heard a better explanation for how a solenoid actually functions. Your the Man!
I hope it helped. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your EXCELLENT video contribution to the DIY community. If I may suggest to your viewers (and provide further assistance), I would like to suggest them to check the voltage coming to the solenoid terminal (the one that is not grounded) to ensure that the starter switch is not defective and actually a 12V voltage is present on the quick connect terminal prior to the solenoid removal and replacement. They can simply use a voltmeter or a small 12V bulb to make sure that actually the current would be supplied to the solenoid when the user cranks the starter switch position, and then proceed to the starter solenoid replacement if the voltage to the energizing terminal is present. I hate to see after replacing the solenoid they find out that the starter switch is actually defective and not the solenoid. Hope this is helpful to your audience, and God bless you for your initiative to make this video.
Hi Gordon, G'day, Paul from Australia here. Thank you for all the valuable information in this video. I had to change the soleniod on my ride-on mower and was sold a 4 post to replace the 3 post.
Replaced it ok but nothing until I watched your video explaining about the ground (earth) wire. None came with the kit so I had to build one and hey presto! The mower now starts first turn of the ignition switch. Thanks again for your video. Well done!
Glad to hear it helped Paul. I had the same problem as you when I changed mine on my zero turn but as a former auto mechanic, I had the tools and experience to find out what to do pretty quick. This style makes it universal where as the 3 contact is only good on a grounded metal frame unless you add a ground wire and mount it under the mounting ears on a plastic mount area. Always good to hear where people are from, not sure which way to go to Australia from here in the middle of the States, east or west, maybe the same distance either way.
A very clear explanation, which I appreciate, and the camera angles were perfect the whole time you were working and explaining how the circuits worked. Thanks for this video - I'd hate to cross wire something and burn up my lawn tractor. On my old Snapper, the wire from the solenoid to the starter is black, not red, and I can't find my owner's manual; Snapper's website is of little help in getting manuals for older models, from the days before Briggs & Stratton acquired Snapper, so I really appreciate your video.
Late to the party but you helped me properly ground my solenoid
Boy if you missed that, take up knitting.
Great explanation
Thanks for the nice video on how to install the starter solenoid and that you can install the wires on either one of the solenoid connactions.
Exactly what I needed to know about the prongs / black and white wire connectors
Glad it helped
Good video, you explained alot... I could tell bye your hands, your a working ,man.!!!!! Thank you... !!!!
thank you its hard to find a simple explanation god bless sir good day
Gordon very good video easy to understand. Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
Fixing my sons tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
Great explanation with full info. Thanks.
Great video with good explanations!
Thanks for the video it told me exactly what I needed to know about solenoids
Simple and easy,,, I needed a second opinion,,, thanks 👍👍👍
Glad it helped
Thanks for helping me out with my problem Gordon! You rock sir.
Glad to hear it helped. 'Hope it is starting good for you now.
@@57bagre I thank you for the video it was very helpful I need a book book for repairing small engines hanks
Thank You Sir 👍🏽
Thanks for your help I got a Troy pony for 100.00 I suspect this is the starting issue..same mount area ty for the help..also putting new starter on I got from eBay for 35.00
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You sir, are an American getting shit done.
The 2 smallest different wire on the botton. U said it didn't. Matter. I went through 2 different solenoid. Because it shorts out. If extra ground.
Good show Gordon you are just like me always some thing to fix. thanks sam
Thank you Sam. Yes there's 10 years worth of projects waiting and multiplying daily.
One spade connector is for ground the other spade is to trigger the internal relay. I can't see that these wires are interchangeable on a four connector relay.
Hi, Gordan. Thanks for the video. I recently replaced a 3 post with a 4 post and my MTD still would not start. With the 3 post solenoid there was already a “Green wire” from the negative cable to the battery that was grounded to the screws on the back of the solenoid and body of the mower. Replacing with a 4 post there is the additional wire that connects to the solenoid as you show and is grounded to the back of the solenoid and the body of the mower. Both wires are grounded and the mower doesn’t start. Should I not ground one of the wires or how should I properly connect the 4 post? Thanks
Did you cut out your battery box so you could access the soleniod? Because
mine is spot welded in place.
Wish my Huskee was that easy to fix. 6 days now trying to get mine running with no luck. All I did was drop the deck to replace the belts and steering shaft...put everything back on and wouldn't crank. Bought new battery and solenoid....still nothing. It'll start if I use a screwdriver on both solenoid terminals but not with the key in the ignition. Paying $80 a week to have my 2acre yard mowed is getting expensive real fast.
Is there a fuse under the battery?
My cub cadet lt1045 has the same setup under the seat. I just replaced the selanoid, the starter, the fuse, and the battery with all new ones and yet I still get absolutely no power at all when I turn the key. The blade is up and the parking break is on and I already tried the disconnecting the seat sensor trick and still nothing. I just ordered a new ignition switch as well. If that also fails, would you have any idea what else it could be?
Thanks. Where does the ground from your battery go?
Don’t know that’s my question too?
Hey Gordon, where does the green wire (behind your hand) go that is coming from the loom (fuse area)
Thanks Gordy :D
Thanks for commenting.
Thanks this is best of 5 for me
Gordan is a mechanic
Hey Gordon where did you get the starter solenoid and how did you know it was that
I bought a universal solenoid from Orally for about $25.
I didn't pay attention and put the ground and hot on the solenoid... my hot wire went thermo nuclear all the way to the starter.
I have the same mower. Started giving me trouble starting so I replaced the battery because it was 4 years old and it smelled bad and wouldn't keep the charge. I replaced the battery and now it won't crank. Won't click or anything. Any suggestions?
Also replaced the solenoid.
You need to bypass the solenoid and hit the starter directly with cables, if it cranks then, then you need to chase the problem in the wiring, dirty ground, or other contacts, ignition switch, safety switches etc.
Thank you
I have a Dixon 5502 1997 that runs and cuts great.
My issue is it will only start with the PTO engaged.
What is going on?
Anyone know??? Start it up and turn PTO off and works great. Blades work when starting... not good.
HEEELLLP PLEASE
Biggest problem with these are not a good ground and it will fool most people, I ran ground all the way to the engine and never problem again
The lawn mower wrench turners would probably have needed half the day to switch it out:)
I'm pretty slow, I think I would have needed an hour if I were not recording, I probably used 1-1/2 hrs. but doing the battery pan at the same time, I probably spent half the day myself.
THAT A BOY GORDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Troy Bilt Pony where is solenoid switch
What if your cub cadet has two wires going into the clip piece then how do you ground it.
I can't foe the life of me get to my solenoid on troy bilt bronco....its around battery compartment area to mounted to frame but it's not directly behind and I can't remove from the outside...do I have to remove frame or plastic middle cover in order to gain access to this little compartment area?
It really shouldn't be too hard to get to it, maybe you have a friend or neighbor to help you find it, or ask your mechanic to look at it. I can't tell you without seeing it.
Gordon Robertson oh I can find it fine....i just can not reach it
Ok I got it out...now I tested it and it's fine...getting 12 volts to it and out of it...so next thing I want to test is starter cable and then starter....how would I test starter cable to make sure it is not dropping voltage due to bad copper strands? How to perform a drop test of the cable?
macknumber9 @@1
Poor ground folks