I like the S5 over the M340i/M440i but saying there is no difference in performance is not even remotely true. BMW underrated those cars severely and it shows in pulls both from stop and in roll races
Hey! I personally much prefer the M340i/M440i. I think I did mention that the BMW has better off the line performance? There is no lag or delay present, unlike the Audi.
@@DMCarReviews BMW M340i is a faster car by 0-60mph (M340i 3.8s vs S5 4.3s), but you have to launch hard (full launch mode) to get the M340i off line like that. Audis, on the other hand, are traditionally easy to launch. What I love about Audi S-line, is that even without a full launch, and building zero brake boost from a stop, the car will sling forward. I like others, much prefer the Audi S5 launches to BMWs M340i, just because you can accelerate so casually fast and can be useful in any practical situation on the road.
Great video👍 I bought mine S5 coupe 2017 for two months ago and I just love it. The most fun car I have owned. The sound is awesome like the rest of car. 😎
Seeing you drive around the NADA building in Tysons I work in, while I am waiting on my 2024 S5 Sportback to be made and shipped (ETA 5 more months) is pretty cool! Can't wait for it to be delivered!
Nice review, I own a 2023 S3. Thought hard about which model to get, but since Audi just had remodeled the S3 in 2022, I went with it over a base S4 or a used S5. I like the interior better, specifically the infotainment being in the center and not on top of the dash and don't need the space of a bigger car much anyway. I notice lag on my S3 when im in auto or comfort a bit, but sport and dynamic the response is instant, so when ever I need to accelerate hard I pull back the little dongle for sport mode and zero lag.
Also I’ve heard the same, I think they’ve improved the throttle response on this years model because most of the people complaining about bad throttle have older models.
I think the worst response was in the 2018 model. My 2021 had a better response in my opinion, than the 2023. It's only off idle. From a roll, they are great.
I’d have to think that a cold air intake and stage 1 tune should clean up the power and torque band. Just picked up a 2023 S5 coupe in Nogaro blue. Getting it in 2 weeks
Hey, great video as always. I was recently shopping for a car and asked your opinion between the s5, stinger and a few other cars and you were super helpful. Decided to go for the X3 M40i and I have 0 regrets. Many people say the Macan S is in a different class but I didn’t see the point in spending an extra 15-20k. I have to say if I got a sedan, I probably would’ve opted for the s5 over the m340i just because of the seats and how it looks. The only thing I didn’t like was how they glued the screen on top of the AC vents.
Hey! Glad you are liking your BMW. Great choice. The Macan S gave me absolutely no emotions. I did not like the seats. I think the M440i GC is better than the S5 in every aspect. It's also way more comfortable on long trips. My favorite combination is the green with tints, 20" staggered wheels, and the shadowline package.
@@brianschultz7320 I personally love the grille. With the shadowline package it looks super clean and aggressive. I have an X3 M40i video coming up today.
@@DMCarReviews Glad you like it! I’ll definitely tune in your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Thank you for actually driving the cars like they’re meant to be driven
4runners are dollar for dollar one of the best suv's you can buy. Even though I'm not a truck/suv guy, if I had to buy one I would def go for a 4runner.
I’m really debating between the M340i and S5. I’m leaning S5 because I think the looks are better, and I read that the ride is a little softer which I think I’d prefer for long drives. But I’m not sure, still haven’t fully decided
I'd compare the S5 to the M440i GC. Looks are subjective. The BMW does drive more sporty, and comfort I actually prefer the BMW. The M340i has stronger performance. It holds the road better at higher speed and there is more feedback. Both are amazing cars, so can't go wrong with either one. The technology is much more advanced in the BMW though, starting from the infotainment to the engine and chases. The inline 6 is a very superb engine. Just drive both and see what you like the most.
I noticed the lag on my 2020 too. I had a 2018 s5 a few years ago and I don’t remember it being as slow to build boost when flooring it from a stop or after kickdown accelerations.
Thanks that’s good to know. Glad you pointed out that the Audi doesn’t produce artificial engine noises much like BMW has been doing lately. One of the things I’ve enjoyed about Audi is staying true to the sound their engines produce.
I got the Optional Audi Sports Exhaust on my 2022 S5 Coupe , it is louder than the stock exhust with more pops and burbles, but not too loud for cops to give me a noise infraction ticket in my Province of Ontario Canada ,
@@DMCarReviews you are correct they do. I’ve just noticed the sound from the exhaust for the most part has been more 1:1 with the sound enhancer which lets you know it’s not just pure sound enhancer giving you the pops/burble affects you are producing.
@@BrettLegree Speeding isn't the best idea... but a stock S5 has plenty of power to do whatever you need. If you care about 0-60, and pure acceleration, buy a Tesla Plaid.
@@DMCarReviews agreed about speeding. No EVs for me (remote part of Canada) and I prefer a quality interior, so I bought an S4 (out of warranty, cash deal, so I tuned it - I can afford to fix it if it breaks) - take care and keep up the good content 👍
I was deciding between the same cars. I went with an x3 M40i because I wanted the extra space. You can’t really go wrong with any of those options. I’d probably choose the s5 based on looks, but the B58 is a beast!
I've driven faster cars but to me the driving enjoyment depends largely on 'responsiveness' and refinement of power delivery. In the S4/S5 series their is a broad torque range, starting very low (1350 RPM). Combine that with little turbo lag and sporty pedal feel, and it makes it a blast to drive. Also, Audis, with Quattro, are known for how they takeoff - powerful, but smooth, with little drama (wheelspin/hop).
Thank you for your review. I’ve had my 2023 S5 Sportback Prestige for 3 months now. I concur that there is noticeable turbo lag in ‘D’ which can be a little terrifying if you are pulling out into traffic. Once you put it into ‘S’ it comes alive and is so responsive. Otherwise it is an absolutely beautiful car that puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. In Los Angeles I hardly see any A5/S5/RS5s, but BMWs are a dime a dozen.
Excellent review and I have to agree with your review. They always talk bad about Audi. But BMW cheats! BMW has to add so much horsepower to their cars but if Audi would match BMW horsepower for horsepower, BMW would never have a chance! Audi has the 2nd best wins at LeMans behind its cousin, Porsche. Audi has racing pedigree and history. Audi does not need to put exhaust pops via the speakers either!
Audi's are nice, but I think BMW is a much stronger race car, especially when talking about track driving. Audi also adds more power than stated. The S5 has around 370hp and closer to 400tq. Check the dyno measurements. www.goapr.com/products/software/ecu_upgrade/gasoline/6/30t_ea839/parts/ECU-30T-EA839-B9
A 335i does low 5s off launch, whereas the S5 is capable of lower-mid 4s with launch control. This video shows they are very close? ruclips.net/video/HOeRpQ1ZTtQ/видео.htmlsi=A0C4yMycXtwZIhyF
First, stock won't do 4.0 seconds, that's b.s. Even the M340i doesn't always get to that number. You know what a real world test is, right? It's done as is, and not in the "best" conditions. I owned an S5, and done plenty of launches, and I launched it right. I know what I am doing bud. Given the positive road slope and gas, this was the best it would run. 99% of the time launch control isn't engaged, and it runs 5.5s-5.6s. If you have any valuable suggestions, I am happy to hear them, but I don't know what you can add, since Audi's launch control feature is fairly easy to use.
@@DMCarReviews You didnt launch it right. You didnt let the boost build for long enough to get an optimal time, as you can see by the gauge. In NA/supercharged cars, this wouldnt matter. Look at literally any other review and they achieve the advertised time or faster on a stock car,
it is shame for this money, the vehicle has no remote start and no TPMS sensors (if/when there is a leak you have no idea which tire and must check each one). Cheap trash like KIA, Honda, Toyota offer these essential features. But AUDI doesn't Also, the paint is very soft that every road derbies will leave a mark on your hood.
The 2024+ do have remote start. No TPMS sensors is disappointing at this price point. Yes, correct! The paint is super soft and will chip all the time. I experienced that in my S5.
I think stage 1 will get you around the high 3s, using Launch Control. Adding TCU software and other supporting mods such as an intercooler and intake will get you into the mid 3s, once you are at stage 2. Issue is, you will get those times only from Launch Control. If you just floor it you will still be in the higher 4s on the time. A stock M340i does 4.4-4.5s from idle, without any launch or modifications.
I'm really excited for Mazda is going to destroy all these cars in the market with their new cx90. Reliability alone no one's going to buy this overpriced turd wagons
First off all the S5 is not a wagon, and it will demolish any Mazda out there. The new CX90 is 340hp for like 5000 lbs, so this S5 is way lighter and has more power. I also doubt most luxury buyers care about Mazda at all.
This guy is cooked lol. I own a Mazda 6 2.5T which is the fastest model in the midsize category but its still FWD. It comes nowhere near an S5 which I am looking to get next myself. The handling, sportback design, and V6 TT smashes any premium vehicle out of the market. I'm still deciding between the Redsport 400, Stinger GT, and s5. but the B9 platform is one of the most refined and I don't really like the heavy-steel chassis on the stinger. The SUV guy here is another uneducated and inept person that bought into the ridiculous SUV trend. SUV NPCs are the reason the market is killing off better, exciting vehicles and also why emissions are so strict, driving up the cost of economy class vehicles due to over-engineering.
@@fragoutrambo6381 I had an S5. Great car... but I prefer the M440i GC in green/gray with the Shadowline package and the 20" rims. It's a more engaging driving experience. Either way, you can't go wrong with either.
@@DMCarReviews Since you owned an S5, I know the water pump starts to go around 80k miles. Did you ever experience anything major like drivetrain or electricals? I was a mechanic in the military so I'm not afraid to take all the plastic off. I just want to keep it in good shape as I will likely buy used.
Have to say the s5 b9 and 9.5 are the best Audi has put out (aside from R8/etc). The styling, tech, and comfort balance are exquisite. I find the RS line to be a bit stiff and too focused on the performance, the S line strikes a nice balance between comfort and performance.
The RS is very stiff, and while the performance is good, the S5 isn't too far off. The styling is good and balanced, but more to the plain side. The hood looks very flat, and the infotainment hasn't changed much since 2017, besides loosing physical dials. I do really like it regardless, and I think it's an excellent car.
I like the S5 over the M340i/M440i but saying there is no difference in performance is not even remotely true. BMW underrated those cars severely and it shows in pulls both from stop and in roll races
Hey! I personally much prefer the M340i/M440i. I think I did mention that the BMW has better off the line performance? There is no lag or delay present, unlike the Audi.
@@DMCarReviews BMW M340i is a faster car by 0-60mph (M340i 3.8s vs S5 4.3s), but you have to launch hard (full launch mode) to get the M340i off line like that. Audis, on the other hand, are traditionally easy to launch. What I love about Audi S-line, is that even without a full launch, and building zero brake boost from a stop, the car will sling forward. I like others, much prefer the Audi S5 launches to BMWs M340i, just because you can accelerate so casually fast and can be useful in any practical situation on the road.
@@zadeh79 The S5 has lots of lag whereas the M340i doesn't
I have a 23 m340i and it’s much faster having driven both. The s5 is more stylish outside and more comfortable as a daily. I may be switching over.
Great video👍 I bought mine S5 coupe 2017 for two months ago and I just love it. The most fun car I have owned. The sound is awesome like the rest of car. 😎
Thank you!
Seeing you drive around the NADA building in Tysons I work in, while I am waiting on my 2024 S5 Sportback to be made and shipped (ETA 5 more months) is pretty cool! Can't wait for it to be delivered!
Very nice! Congratulations. I had a 21' S5 in Turbo Blue, and it was an amazing car.
Nice review, I own a 2023 S3. Thought hard about which model to get, but since Audi just had remodeled the S3 in 2022, I went with it over a base S4 or a used S5. I like the interior better, specifically the infotainment being in the center and not on top of the dash and don't need the space of a bigger car much anyway. I notice lag on my S3 when im in auto or comfort a bit, but sport and dynamic the response is instant, so when ever I need to accelerate hard I pull back the little dongle for sport mode and zero lag.
Nice! The lag I am talking about is off the line, even in dynamic mode. It's much less lag than an S4 or S5 have on the other hand.
the fucking red light on for 2 minutes blew my tiny european mind.
Also I’ve heard the same, I think they’ve improved the throttle response on this years model because most of the people complaining about bad throttle have older models.
I think the worst response was in the 2018 model. My 2021 had a better response in my opinion, than the 2023. It's only off idle. From a roll, they are great.
I’d have to think that a cold air intake and stage 1 tune should clean up the power and torque band. Just picked up a 2023 S5 coupe in Nogaro blue. Getting it in 2 weeks
Hey, great video as always. I was recently shopping for a car and asked your opinion between the s5, stinger and a few other cars and you were super helpful. Decided to go for the X3 M40i and I have 0 regrets. Many people say the Macan S is in a different class but I didn’t see the point in spending an extra 15-20k. I have to say if I got a sedan, I probably would’ve opted for the s5 over the m340i just because of the seats and how it looks. The only thing I didn’t like was how they glued the screen on top of the AC vents.
Hey! Glad you are liking your BMW. Great choice. The Macan S gave me absolutely no emotions. I did not like the seats. I think the M440i GC is better than the S5 in every aspect. It's also way more comfortable on long trips. My favorite combination is the green with tints, 20" staggered wheels, and the shadowline package.
@@DMCarReviews Agree with you. I just can’t get behind the new grill on the m440i GC. Maybe I’ll get used to it over time
@@brianschultz7320 I personally love the grille. With the shadowline package it looks super clean and aggressive. I have an X3 M40i video coming up today.
@@DMCarReviews Glad you like it! I’ll definitely tune in your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Thank you for actually driving the cars like they’re meant to be driven
@@brianschultz7320 Thank you for the positive feedback! I try to make my videos entertaining.
Great review , I think Audi's interior in the S5 is above most of its competitors
Thank you! Definitely, a very good interior.
Yep
I saw the thumbnail and said “tysons?!” 😂😂
Yes, haha! Are you from Tysons?
@@DMCarReviews DMV native!
@@lysthemuse Very cool! I work in Tysons myself😂
I miss my Audi 😢 got into woods, hiking and off roading so replaced with 4Runner
The 4Runner is a sweet option.
4runners are dollar for dollar one of the best suv's you can buy. Even though I'm not a truck/suv guy, if I had to buy one I would def go for a 4runner.
I’m really debating between the M340i and S5. I’m leaning S5 because I think the looks are better, and I read that the ride is a little softer which I think I’d prefer for long drives. But I’m not sure, still haven’t fully decided
I'd compare the S5 to the M440i GC. Looks are subjective. The BMW does drive more sporty, and comfort I actually prefer the BMW. The M340i has stronger performance. It holds the road better at higher speed and there is more feedback. Both are amazing cars, so can't go wrong with either one. The technology is much more advanced in the BMW though, starting from the infotainment to the engine and chases. The inline 6 is a very superb engine. Just drive both and see what you like the most.
Love this review! looking to get into one
Thanks! Great car. I would also look into the BMW M440i Gran Coupe. It's definitely the more athletic option.
I noticed the lag on my 2020 too. I had a 2018 s5 a few years ago and I don’t remember it being as slow to build boost when flooring it from a stop or after kickdown accelerations.
There is lag if you don't build boost and just floor it.
Does the extra 2 doors slow it down much compared to the coupe?
I didn't notice any performance difference in my testing, but in identical conditions maybe by 0.1-0.2 seconds, tops.
Have you tried listening to this car with the Optional Audi Sports Exhaust? Curious to see if it sounds any different from stock.
I think I have. It's just a different resonator. It adds more aggressive pops and burbles.
Thanks that’s good to know. Glad you pointed out that the Audi doesn’t produce artificial engine noises much like BMW has been doing lately. One of the things I’ve enjoyed about Audi is staying true to the sound their engines produce.
I got the Optional Audi Sports Exhaust on my 2022 S5 Coupe , it is louder than the stock exhust with more pops and burbles, but not too loud for cops to give me a noise infraction ticket in my Province of Ontario Canada ,
@@neaxtech360 Audi does use a sound enhancer, called Soundaktor, which is somewhat similar to artificial sound.
@@DMCarReviews you are correct they do. I’ve just noticed the sound from the exhaust for the most part has been more 1:1 with the sound enhancer which lets you know it’s not just pure sound enhancer giving you the pops/burble affects you are producing.
Do the IE tune anyway, even if you think it is good "stock", just do it.
Why not unlock what it should have been from the factory?
Not my car. Not everyone wants a voided warranty.
@@DMCarReviews sure, if it's not your car.
You only live once, I figure.
And hey, do you speed?
Ever take any chances in life?
@@DMCarReviews PS - I meant that with all due respect, no harm intended.
@@BrettLegree Speeding isn't the best idea... but a stock S5 has plenty of power to do whatever you need. If you care about 0-60, and pure acceleration, buy a Tesla Plaid.
@@DMCarReviews agreed about speeding.
No EVs for me (remote part of Canada) and I prefer a quality interior, so I bought an S4 (out of warranty, cash deal, so I tuned it - I can afford to fix it if it breaks) - take care and keep up the good content 👍
try driving the V6 supercharged Audis. You'll understand the reason for the throttle feeling "laggy".
The Supercharged ones have quicker starts and throttle tip-in.
Would you choose this or a m340i/m440i ?
That's a tough question. Depends on your priorities and design tastes. Can't go wrong with either car.
I was deciding between the same cars. I went with an x3 M40i because I wanted the extra space. You can’t really go wrong with any of those options. I’d probably choose the s5 based on looks, but the B58 is a beast!
Yep. I think the s5 is better looking than the m340i/m440i but that b58...
@@oi7uytfrcb I prefer the aesthetics of the M440i GC, especially in the green and with staggered 20" rims.
@DMCarReviews You prefer the design of the current 4 series gran coupe or the design of the previous generation ?
Is there a hybrid on the S5?
No hybrid.
I've driven faster cars but to me the driving enjoyment depends largely on 'responsiveness' and refinement of power delivery. In the S4/S5 series their is a broad torque range, starting very low (1350 RPM). Combine that with little turbo lag and sporty pedal feel, and it makes it a blast to drive. Also, Audis, with Quattro, are known for how they takeoff - powerful, but smooth, with little drama (wheelspin/hop).
They do have good torque, but there is plenty of lag as well
Prestige package is better then premium plus, the highest package
Not really worth it though...
bro; you are floating all over the road not using turn signals. you must be from Maryland
Where am I not showing my signals?
@@DMCarReviewsyou’re using your phone while you’re driving too. You are distracted af
lmao seeing the smoke come out of one exhaust when there 2 exhausts is hilarious and would be also really embarrassing
That is normal while the car is heating up, and in comfort mode.
Thank you for your review.
I’ve had my 2023 S5 Sportback Prestige for 3 months now. I concur that there is noticeable turbo lag in ‘D’ which can be a little terrifying if you are pulling out into traffic. Once you put it into ‘S’ it comes alive and is so responsive. Otherwise it is an absolutely beautiful car that puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. In Los Angeles I hardly see any A5/S5/RS5s, but BMWs are a dime a dozen.
Excellent review and I have to agree with your review. They always talk bad about Audi. But BMW cheats! BMW has to add so much horsepower to their cars but if Audi would match BMW horsepower for horsepower, BMW would never have a chance! Audi has the 2nd best wins at LeMans behind its cousin, Porsche. Audi has racing pedigree and history. Audi does not need to put exhaust pops via the speakers either!
Audi's are nice, but I think BMW is a much stronger race car, especially when talking about track driving. Audi also adds more power than stated. The S5 has around 370hp and closer to 400tq. Check the dyno measurements.
www.goapr.com/products/software/ecu_upgrade/gasoline/6/30t_ea839/parts/ECU-30T-EA839-B9
Maybe I'm missing something because people are comparing an SUV to a Coupe sedan. Not the same ball park. MHO
You can always cross shop a similar price range.
I got dizzy just by watching the video
Video is as stabilized as possible... I guess POV video's aren't the right genre to watch
15:47 lol
Ahah
My 2014 335i RWD does 0-60 in 5.08 seconds on draft as well. A m340i will destroy this s5..
A 335i does low 5s off launch, whereas the S5 is capable of lower-mid 4s with launch control. This video shows they are very close?
ruclips.net/video/HOeRpQ1ZTtQ/видео.htmlsi=A0C4yMycXtwZIhyF
Not launching it right. Got 4.0-4.3 stock
First, stock won't do 4.0 seconds, that's b.s. Even the M340i doesn't always get to that number. You know what a real world test is, right? It's done as is, and not in the "best" conditions. I owned an S5, and done plenty of launches, and I launched it right. I know what I am doing bud. Given the positive road slope and gas, this was the best it would run. 99% of the time launch control isn't engaged, and it runs 5.5s-5.6s. If you have any valuable suggestions, I am happy to hear them, but I don't know what you can add, since Audi's launch control feature is fairly easy to use.
@@DMCarReviews You didnt launch it right. You didnt let the boost build for long enough to get an optimal time, as you can see by the gauge. In NA/supercharged cars, this wouldnt matter. Look at literally any other review and they achieve the advertised time or faster on a stock car,
don't compare this with m3, it competes with 440i
Where did I compare this with the M3?
@@DMCarReviews At 0:17 you said m3 340i it's actually 4 series 440i not 3 series
@@robert4716 He said M340i
it is shame for this money, the vehicle has no remote start and no TPMS sensors (if/when there is a leak you have no idea which tire and must check each one). Cheap trash like KIA, Honda, Toyota offer these essential features. But AUDI doesn't Also, the paint is very soft that every road derbies will leave a mark on your hood.
The 2024+ do have remote start. No TPMS sensors is disappointing at this price point. Yes, correct! The paint is super soft and will chip all the time. I experienced that in my S5.
the audi screen is flickering real bad
It's the way the GoPro picks it up. There is no flickering.
Stage 1 your 0-60 will be 3.5 sec, car turns iin to an animal, ask me how I know ha ha
I think stage 1 will get you around the high 3s, using Launch Control. Adding TCU software and other supporting mods such as an intercooler and intake will get you into the mid 3s, once you are at stage 2. Issue is, you will get those times only from Launch Control. If you just floor it you will still be in the higher 4s on the time. A stock M340i does 4.4-4.5s from idle, without any launch or modifications.
he has no knowledge in cars he makes up half the stuff
Where specifically did I make something up? I owned a 2021 Audi S5 personally, but ok lol!
These things are slow.
Not at all! They are very fast.
I’ve driven one as well and disagree. This car has performance figures that were impressive 20 years ago.
I'm really excited for Mazda is going to destroy all these cars in the market with their new cx90. Reliability alone no one's going to buy this overpriced turd wagons
First off all the S5 is not a wagon, and it will demolish any Mazda out there. The new CX90 is 340hp for like 5000 lbs, so this S5 is way lighter and has more power. I also doubt most luxury buyers care about Mazda at all.
This guy is cooked lol. I own a Mazda 6 2.5T which is the fastest model in the midsize category but its still FWD. It comes nowhere near an S5 which I am looking to get next myself. The handling, sportback design, and V6 TT smashes any premium vehicle out of the market. I'm still deciding between the Redsport 400, Stinger GT, and s5. but the B9 platform is one of the most refined and I don't really like the heavy-steel chassis on the stinger. The SUV guy here is another uneducated and inept person that bought into the ridiculous SUV trend. SUV NPCs are the reason the market is killing off better, exciting vehicles and also why emissions are so strict, driving up the cost of economy class vehicles due to over-engineering.
@@fragoutrambo6381 I had an S5. Great car... but I prefer the M440i GC in green/gray with the Shadowline package and the 20" rims. It's a more engaging driving experience. Either way, you can't go wrong with either.
@@DMCarReviews Since you owned an S5, I know the water pump starts to go around 80k miles. Did you ever experience anything major like drivetrain or electricals? I was a mechanic in the military so I'm not afraid to take all the plastic off. I just want to keep it in good shape as I will likely buy used.
Have to say the s5 b9 and 9.5 are the best Audi has put out (aside from R8/etc). The styling, tech, and comfort balance are exquisite. I find the RS line to be a bit stiff and too focused on the performance, the S line strikes a nice balance between comfort and performance.
The RS is very stiff, and while the performance is good, the S5 isn't too far off. The styling is good and balanced, but more to the plain side. The hood looks very flat, and the infotainment hasn't changed much since 2017, besides loosing physical dials. I do really like it regardless, and I think it's an excellent car.