Nick and josh lover 1 I But that doesn’t matter? Also you may not know him because are you from America or the UK? So yes he got his ass handed to him.
It's rude to have all the stupid and wrong shit you said in the past read back to you. And to suddenly find out that not even you can defend what you say.
@@sayno2lolzisbackHe(BS)was doing an interview for the sole purpose of promoting a book. Th general premise of the book was BS lamenting the state of political discord,and the apparent inability for some to remain civil and objective whilst debating contentious issues. Rather than merely agreeing, and fulfilling the usual role of a MSM hack providing a platform for another corporate stooge, the interviewer questioned BS's participation in the very practices(for profit) he was now decrying (for profit). In the UK we occasionally test the value of someone's character by examining their past. In short Ben is full of it,and didn't expect a fellow right wing lunatic to point this out in public. Usually there's an unspoken rule where inconsistencies are ignored until it becomes impossible to do so!
@@sayno2lolzisback That was the whole point though. He was complaining in his book about how america is divided and attacking each others, but that was all he did his whole career. The irony was indefensible.
Ben had done to him what he's done to so many others, particularly 19 year old students on campuses across the US. A grown up challenged him and Ben fell to pieces.
Exactly, Shapiro is an out and out conversational bully. His debate style is always to try and humiliate the other person. Neil calmly asked him to defend his statements, wouldn't be bullied, and Shapiro collapsed. Shapiro is now supposedly 'owning' his inability to answer those questions in this interview by making excuses about not having researched Neil first. The fact is it shouldn't matter who is asking the questions, what matters is whether you can explain yourself. Shapiro was shown up as a biased loudmouth with some repulsive views.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour There are 2 basic conversational styles: one is to have a 2 way dialogue where you present your argument and see what you can learn from the other person's point of view. The second, Shapiro's style, is purely confrontational, where u don't seek to learn anything or understand the other pov, instead your aim is to Win the conversation and ideally humiliate the other person. Shapiro is either too egotistical to understand that he might often be wrong, or he is aware but knows that he generates more clicks and money by being obnoxious. This is what his fanboys want to see - "Shapiro DESTROYS I have no time for him. He's a well-educated man who deliberately takes simplistic, populist and often racist positions in order to earn his living. He chooses to be a source of further divisiveness in a fractured society. In my book that makes him a piece of sh!t
@@exweized3595 I've seen plenty of conversations that are not confrontational whatsoever on his Sunday Special, JRE, and other podcast clips. Clearly, you're only using debate/Q&A clips as your evidence. It's all a moot point, though, since you said he has racist views which is something you only say when you make up his views to serve your agenda.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour Shapiro blames black 'culture' for low educational achievement in the US. It's badly disguised dog whistle for supporters of racial superiority. Here boy !
I think what he did was more than just "he fucked up" I think it revealed how he really feels about certain things. Especially attacking the guy for not being as famous as him.
He asks the BBC Interviewer : "Are you an objective reporter?" The interviewer responds: "I'm a journalist who asks questions." Most news people in America pick left or right and go to battle. It's strange to watch news from somewhere else and see how different it is, with more emphasis on the questions as apposed to the battle.
@@Numbskull727 Being from the UK I can tell you Andrew Neil (the interviewer is very good at his job (despite my personal reservations about the BBC anyway). The BBC I imagine is completely different playground to what Ben Shapiro is used to in that Neil will automatically take the opposite view to his interviewee no matter what position they take to basically test him round and rebuff them, Shapiro was simply poor in not doing his research into knowing this is the technique used when debating and Andrew Neill is a tough nut, like Jeremy Paxman. I do imagine if Shapiro knew and perhaps there would be another interview sometime in years to come it will go much better for him as he's clearly intelligent and makes good arguments.
U.K. journaislm isn’t much better. The interviewer in question is actually right wing but is quite good at holding both sides to account. He’s a rarity though.
Its not had to understand at all: Neil did not let Shapiro off the hook, he did not allow him to shift the topic, or to drag up “what aboutisms,” as Shapiro is used to doing, and insisted on a straight up answer. And Shapiro could not handle it.
@@jimmy2k4o that isn’t actually his opinion. As far as I know, Andrew Neil is pretty critical of abortion. But his style of interviewing is that he deliberately brings up hypothetical counterarguments in order to interrogate what the interviewee is saying. He is saying that other people may say bans on abortion are “barbaric”, not that he believes that.
Ben didn't really own his mistake, because he thinks his mistake was "not knowing that the interviewer wasn't a leftist". That wasn't his mistake. Even if the interviewer had been on the left, Shapiro still would've been stupid for objecting to the questions and storming out.
No, what you aren't considering is that he was there under.an understanding that.this guy was a conservative. When he goes on a show he is basically sponsoring it in a sense. If he thought this guy lied to him to ambush him he would have been right to walk off; however, giving him a reaction that way would have still been a mistake.
@@ruhap9311 what a complete crock😂😂 A quick RUclips search about Andrew Neil would have told Benny boy who he was dealing with. A journalist who challenges people on their views regardless of his own political leanings. If Shapiro thought that Neil being a Conservative meant he was going to pander to him, that was his mistake. It was an interview and Shapiro had an opportunity to clarify his view on things. The interviewer didnt fall for Shapiro's amateur debate tactics and kept the interview on track. Poor little Ben imploded when he couldnt get his own way and stomped off like a spoilt kid😂😂
Putting any blame on the BBC or the interviewer or the short time format is complete deflection. Ben was a hypocrite. Couldn't answer a simple direct question and reacted emotionally because of it. Good on him for owning it after the fact but he revealed something really two faced about himself in that interview. And as for Joe's point about the interview format, has he considered that the long interview form possibly comes with its own set of problems? That you only end up interviewing people that you're friendly with, and also that people can constantly claim "I was taken out of context" even when they weren't? Ben met someone that didn't want to be friends with him, and only wanted to examine his beliefs and words, and he couldn't handle that. End of.
100% agree. Joe likes to talk about the format of news interviews being too short and not free-form to let peoples actual ideas come out. That wasn't the case with the BBC interview though, it was 1 on 1 and the interviewer was asking direct questions. Ben just couldn't handle it when someone wasn't tossing softball questions
@@caseyk5245 we all screw up but we don't all have a consistent schtick claiming that we're better than the mainstream media. Having that and then acting as he did is hypocrisy by any reasonable definition of hypocrisy.
@@caseyk5245 he was literally calling out Andrew Neil for things that he was doing right then and there, without even knowing who Neil was. That's beyond a screw up. It's arrogance, ignorance and hypocrisy rolled into one.
@@caseyk5245 Sounds like you will constantly white knight for Ben "No one else's feelings matter but my own" Shapiro. One screw up, two screw ups, three screw ups; doesn't matter. A screw up is when you can't answer hard questions on topics you are new to. In the BBC interview, he got triggered from the first question, couldn't and wouldn't answer any question; got all angry and deflected with nonsense. And these questions were all on his own words. That's not a 'screw up', it is a clear indication of just how hypocritical and unqualified he is. Not to mention he didn't even have the courage to own his words. Unless he is given a straw man and months of prep, Shapiro can't handle real interviews.
pandafat I don’t think it was even “softball questions.” It was that Andrew Neil just would not let him drag up what aboutisms or change the topic, which is one of Shapiro’s favorite tactics. He put him on the hook and just would not let him wriggle his way off. And Shapiro could not handle it.
For anyone outside of the UK unaware, Andrew Neil is renowned for utterly demolishing people in interviews ; they recently cancelled his show which is a shame, as he cuts straight through the BS
They didn't cancel him, he cancelled himself to co-create and chair Gb news (known disparagingly as Gbeebies, taken from the kids' channel Cbeebies, because the station he helped set up is not a news station at all, instead it's a nursery full of hyperactive, far right, overgrown children). He has effectively thrown his career and the credibility he garnered via the BBC out the window. It is a quite spectacular, self-inflicted implosion. When the (UK) government needed held to account at the most challenging time in our history, he was nowhere to be seen. He literally hid from journalistic responsibility and he'll probably not recover.
I don't like him, if you saw him interview Jeremy corbyn he was accusing him of being an anti semite and asking him if he had an apology fir the Jews, and every time he tried to say he wasn't or explain how what he'd said was taken out if context Neil would say 'so no apology then? Let me ask you again...', and that's the way ye operates
Lol yeah. They talk about it like he lost a round in a sports match. I find that Joe tends to agree on EVERYTHING with a guy who blew his mind ones about one thing. F’n non-discerning idiot
@@gfy6448 he was unable to name a single idea or concept from "the conservative halls of intelligentsia" despite saying there was a lively debate within it
Ben admitted he was wrong only after he found out the interviewer was right wing. Had the interviewer been left wing, he woulda continued on his tirade.
Of course, but he would never attempt to debate a competent left wing commentator. That's why he goes after college and HS students rather than grown adults
Ben didn't handle the interview as well as usual but are we all going to ignore that Ben was correct that the interviewer was in fact going into the interview with an agenda? I don't care if the interviewer was liberal or not, he obviously had it out for Ben and OBVIOUSLY had a biased agenda regarding abortion. Ben was 100% correct in his assessment of the interviewer, he simply reacted emotionally. Ben should have kept calling out the interviewer and his bias and let the interviewer cut the interview short.
Nick DipaoloFan Agreed, his worse interview so far, and that’s saying something. I would like like to add that Shapiro was asked by the BBC to do an interview on his book, not a debate on politics or why he said in the past. And the interviewer never asked questions about the book he was told was the reason for the interview.
A quick buck can definitely be made on the bbc, publicity is a form of payment, as is infamy. Neil can now go on a bunch of non bbc shows and interviews and make money.
Shapiro went home all self-righteous on how he "destroyed leftist BBC Neil with non-answers and feelings", saw his social media feed blow up with how hypocritical he was, and went into "that was a small mistake, let's forget all about it" mode.
@Wilbur Wafer Trying to contribute to or refute what I said, basically being part of a conversation.. Well of course I have kept a log of all Andrew Neil appearances from a year ago I just happen to have misplaced it. /s Do you not see this as good publicity for within and without the BBC for Neil? Are you really going to tell me this doesn't help him? Are you trying to say that?
You obviously don't know what you're talking about Isn't BBC the network that covered up for a serial child abuser for decades? - They did finally own up to it now that he is dead just watched the entire interview. The only good point the guy made was to point out how Shapiro has possibly contributed to the anger of public discourse with his rhetoric. Practically every other question he asked was designed as a backhanded insult at best, or a trapdoor/gotcha question at worst. He went over dumb quotes and tweets Shapiro himself has adressed multiple times, pointed out old quotes merely to say 'see? You were wrong about that', and then acted obtuse when Shapiro called him out for having an agenda. Shapiro made himself look immature and stupid by ending the interview and also saying 'well I've never heard of you', but he was right that the whole thing was a giant waste of time. It was ostensibly an interview about his new book, and the guy spent maybe 30% of the interview even talking about the book. When he was, it was just a way to say bullshit like 'well see, you say this in the book, but if we look at this 7 year old tweet of yours, blahblah'. He has been confronted with old tweets, pro-choice mischaracterization, "Ben Shapiro Destroys!" videos, and attacks on his own possibly incendiary rhetoric in many instances. The interviewer wasn't breaking fresh ground. He properly addressed them in the past, copy, paste, done. Truly perplexing. Please educate yourself and research more LMAO
@@troymcclure681 This was a BBC program in the UK, the interview was via satellite. Shapiro is not well known in the UK, therefore it was permissible to go into his background. Shapiro came across arrogant almost like "Do you know who I am? How dare you"..... very immature. Andrew's style is combative, adversarial and to the point, something that is not the norm in the US. Shapiro should have done his research and prepared himself which evidently he didn't. He may well have been ambushed by Andrew but I assure you he treats everyone the same. Shapiro's petulant behaviour only shows how weak his argument really is, when challenged he could only retort with personal insults. The problem I think is Shapiro expected a nice little plug for his book, a little gentle chit chat, instead, he got mugged. Why bring up Jimmy Savile that is a totally different issue, not relevant at all, no more than an Ad Hominem attack by yourself which says a lot about you, keep to the point. Your rant comes across rather bigoted.
I'm no fan of Andrew Neill as far as his politics go, but as a journalist he's formidible, he'll destroy anyone who's not prepared regardless of their political leaning. Shapiro tried to put him down by saying he'd never heard of him, well if he had he might have avoided this mauling. And the child abuse scandal is totally irrelevant to Andrew Neill, the BBC is an enormous corporation, it's like trying to put down Shapiro with the Vietnam war just because he's American
He didn't own his mistake. He said he got destroyed because he "wasn't prepared", but being prepared wasn't the issue, it was his ego and attitude that was his downfall. He tried to debate during, what was suppose to be, a discussion. Shapiro can dominate debates, because it you only need to hear, not understand your opponent. His narcissism gets in the way of civil discourse.
As a Brit I can tell you Andrew Neil was completely fair. The questions weren't even that difficult. This is just what happens when people like Ben leave their echo Chambers and experience real journalism.
Speaking as a US citizen, the political right has made a habit of dragging up what about-isms when they are under pressure, with “But Hillary” being one of their favorites. They have also made a habit of crying “fake news” when things don’t go their way, as Ben Shapiro did here. Wonder where they learned that?
@Plebeian Media yes they were, the fuck? Ben thought he was being interviewed on his new book, and then got asked why he supported "midieval" abortion laws. Don't be a partisan hack, that's bent asf and you know it.
Its was hilarious to see Ben prove exactly the point that Neil was making, that American politics has descended into a shouting match. Its was beautiful to see.
Ben was wrong but not in the way you think. Neil brought up tweets from the past that had nothing to do with the book. Shapiro had already addressed them in various articles. Where Shapiro went wrong was in his hypothesis, that anger is the problem with discourse. It should be Cynicism is the problem in discourse. If I say something and you get angry I have no control over that. It's people who think they can read people's minds, their ulterior motives with 100% accuracy that's the problem. But Shapiros gripe was in the interviewers bias. Im not supposed to be able to know where a journalist stands on an issue but clearly we did with his dark-ages comment. The interviewer was terrible, but Shapiro got angry and cynical too.
@@slappyhappy6192 all Neil did was ask simple questions about things that Ben has previously said, is it really that easy to manipilate Shapiro? Holy shit he must be a moron if that's the case
Murty Gwop not random 😂 if you look at the clip it sounded like he was putting on an upper class English accent when rogan was mocking Neil, so I was just pointing out to the us audience that he is Scottish- although I have to admit the other possibility that maybe rogan is just bad at accents 😂
@@Dinosaursof they dont personally people do if you are a very popular person then you see yourself as having clout and being in a higher status which is true though it makes you look like a douche when acknowledging it and thats qhat he did
Birds of a feather. Joe Rogan is the same. After Biden won the Dem nomination over Sanders, he said that he'd 'rather vote trump than Biden' because his man(Sanders) wasn't chosen.
The telling thing about that interview was that Shapiro is so used to US media, that he couldn’t comprehend that a journalist doesn’t necessarily need to have a ‘side’, and their job is to try and probe and get to the truth. It really showed the chasm in professionalism and talent between an established Conservative journalist like Neil, and an absolute charlatan like Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro talks fast because it's a common debating tactic to try and overwhelm the other person. If you can speak faster, and keep the conversation moving, they won't be able to address all of your points. The reason Ben had such a bad interview is because he ran into someone who is able to call him out on what he's saying without getting sidetracked.
Nathan Giles Yep, it’s a “Gish gallop”. And yes, it HAS to be called out as soon as you see the person attempting to do it, so you can go through every single statement / point they make, one at the time. It’s his no1 debate tactic, and it’s honestly sad to see how many fall for it. So many times when you break down what he said it’s 1-2 facts strung together with a whole lot more opinions and random non factual statements disguised as facts.
You both are being ridiculous. Ben just talks fast. It's not a tactic. It is just how he talks. Also, in a debate, a real debate, such as in a debate club at a school or something similar, they talk fast on purpose because they are supposed to. And they don't talk "Ben Shapiro fast", they talk "micro machines guy from those old commercials" fast. It's not a debate tactic to overwhelm the other side, it is just how a formal debate is done. If the site of Ben Shapiro's speech is overwhelming to you, then you should work on your language comprehension skills. I can listen to him at 1.5x speed and keep up just fine.
Kur Norock LOL. His speech is not overwhelming to me. And yes it is a debate tactic - regardless if he has made himself aware of it or not. To overwhelm your debating opponent with statements and half truths in a consecutive row doesn’t mean the opponent isn’t understanding what’s being said, but rather they are unable to debate and call out the bullshit before he has jumped over to the next point. Clearly this tactic doesn’t work on me nor did I ever said I was prone to that. I simply pointed out how this only ever work on people who aren’t prepared for it and who aren’t stopping him in his track to properly debate the answers he brings up. And when he meet people who do that, then Ben is more likely to fail as his tactic didn’t work. As shown in the BBC interview.
@@odinsplaygrounds Have you ever actually watched him debate people? He gives them plenty of opportunity to counter his points, he addresses all of their points, and he even allows people followup questions when that is generally not allowed due to time constraints. Also, what half truths? You are just throwing out accusations because you don't agree with the guy. You next to nothing about him.
He also uses a technique mastered by radio shock jocks: he very slowly needles people while being as polite as possible, so when they finally lose their temper he can play injured party and say “See, you have no LOGIC because you resort to emotion!” It’s totally predictable.
The highlight of the Shapiro interview and what gets me the most is that Andrew Neil starts holding Shapiro to his own words and THAT seems to be what sets him off. Imagine if someone asked you about your previous statements and you blow up on them about it. Almost like Shapiro is disgusted with himself.
You're an idiot Isn't BBC the network that covered up for a serial child abuser for decades? - They did finally own up to it now that he is dead just watched the entire interview. The only good point the guy made was to point out how Shapiro has possibly contributed to the anger of public discourse with his rhetoric. Practically every other question he asked was designed as a backhanded insult at best, or a trapdoor/gotcha question at worst. He went over dumb quotes and tweets Shapiro himself has adressed multiple times, pointed out old quotes merely to say 'see? You were wrong about that', and then acted obtuse when Shapiro called him out for having an agenda. Shapiro made himself look immature and stupid by ending the interview and also saying 'well I've never heard of you', but he was right that the whole thing was a giant waste of time. It was ostensibly an interview about his new book, and the guy spent maybe 30% of the interview even talking about the book. When he was, it was just a way to say bullshit like 'well see, you say this in the book, but if we look at this 7 year old tweet of yours, blahblah'. He has been confronted with old tweets, pro-choice mischaracterization, "Ben Shapiro Destroys!" videos, and attacks on his own possibly incendiary rhetoric in many instances. The interviewer wasn't breaking fresh ground. He properly addressed them in the past, copy, paste, done. Truly perplexing. Please educate yourself and research more
Ben Shapiro wasn't prepared to have an interviewer who wasn't sympathetic to him, this is why the lack of political neutral news stations is a big problem in the US
What the hell is Joe talking about? 1) The interviewer is always like that with the people he interviews, left, right, centre, in the room, out of the room. What he conducted was something that Shapiro isn’t used to with American journalists, and that is that Neil actually asks questions and doesn’t settle for crappy crappy answers. 2) that interview was over 10 minutes long, the only reason it wasn’t longer was because Shapiro cut it short and ran. This isn’t American TV where they need to cut to commercials every 2 minutes, we give people time, to make themselves look stupid .. not to make fat wads of cash.
@Patrick Ryan All those videos were infact on dunce Shapiro's channel, titled by his own staff. Stop making excuses for this grifter and scum bag Shapiro.
@@forbesfoofighters he was playing Devils Advocate asking tuff questions from a oppositions vantage point. Are you really this dumb I thought Shapiro fans loved debate and would understand this very mundane and common practice.
TheEvolver311 how am I a Shapiro fan, lol I’m simply just saying that the guy interviewing him had a very clear agenda which was to promote baby murder and throw straw man arguments at him.
To say “Ben Shapiro Admitted his error” is still down playing what happened. Ben lost so much credibility and exposed himself as a sort of One Trick Pony. And his recanting of what happened was lacking in seriousness. He went on a show where he was out of his element and to a point acted unprofessionally. Do we all make mistakes? Absolutely! But from what happened it seems like the correction was more an attempt to save face and ego.
@@mischkin3588 Shapiro famously turned down an invitation by Dave Rubin to attend a party by saying"well maybe if it isn't a gay party" on camera with no irony at all, probably because Rubin sucks and could probably never throw a good party. This man has seen bar mitzvahs
Ben got demolished in that interview, he was outclassed and resorted to ad hominem attacks, it was weak. He tried to turn an interview in to a debate and just failed.
@@SingularityMedia I understand, I'm not either, just a lot of people can't make a rational point and was hoping to run across one. Don't know how ego got in the equation.
Andrew Neill being accused of being left wing was one of the most hilarious things for viewers in Europe who know who he is. Shapiro is used to the partisan environment and couldn't answer straight questions
There was a comment in the original BBC video by a person: Die Manner, 2 years ago: ''I've seen people lose debates. This is the first time I watched someone lose an interview.''
Brits talking about Americans being in a bubble lol!!!!!! Makes me laugh seeing idiots like this talk down on Americans when your country has already been utterly cucked.
He just didn’t know that (in general) in the U.K. the interviewer acts as a person who simply asks questions. They (in general) act as a devils advocate proposing another idea to the interviewer rather than putting their own opinion across
Ikr. Rogan knows Shapiro is good for views so gotta defend him. I do like Rogan's podcasts but I accept and enjoy them being pretty lightweight and humourous.
Jesus Christ Joe, that was your takeaway? This is why people have an issue with you, you have your blinders on full blast for your friends. Yeah, it was funny to watch Ben melt down like he did, but the substance of what was discussed (or attempted to be) was FAR more important. Shapiro writes a book decrying the volatile and hateful way we discuss politics, while at the same time perpetuating that hate and volatility with his own rhetoric.
Exactly brutha - and what he says about the Palestinians was so racist - finally Neil from the BBC called him on it & what really pissed me off is Joe doesn't acknowledge that -but who cares about Palestinians right - not Joe- and does everyone have to kiss ass ? Let's get this straight Ben is not a nice guy -he's nothing but an egotistical grown up child
this idea that Ben is some sort of far-Right firebrand is absolute bullshit that comes from the wretched mouths of people so far Left on the political and ideological spectrum that they give their family members olive drab shirts and guerilla warfare manuals on their birthdays. Ben's pretty much a neoliberal for god's sake...
What exactly is "and he knows what the BBC is" supposed to mean? Ben Shapiro was being interviewed by a journalist on the BBC who is in many ways just as right-wing as he is but was playing Devil's advocate, so I'm not really sure what the implication was regarding the BBC in general.
What fallacies here? (Is the just a big word you've been wanting to use.). I don't care to defend Ben, I would just really love to see a valid opinion here,
The interviewer wasn’t rude. He was asking him legit questions, which Shapiro was triggered by. I know it’s news to Americans but that’s how journalists should behave. He was doing his job as a journalist. British journalists are like that with everyone they interview. Regardless of their own personal beliefs they’ll adopt the role of a critic and ask tough questions. Journalists like Neil have asked equally tough questions to both conservative politicians and liberal politicians. I guess Shapiro ran back to the safe space of Conservative American media after this interview.
This. It's even a problem here - Andrew Marr nuked every party leader over the past two weeks, left and right, leave and remain. But you only hear the crowd crying about the Farage interview, and how 'left' the BBC are because they dared to ask someone on their side a difficult question.
@@nickydega4333 You're just making a straw-man argument. Never, not once, did anyone say that British media is flawless. Nevertheless, Conservative American media is just a safe space for conservatives.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about Isn't BBC the network that covered up for a serial child abuser for decades? - They did finally own up to it now that he is dead just watched the entire interview. The only good point the guy made was to point out how Shapiro has possibly contributed to the anger of public discourse with his rhetoric. Practically every other question he asked was designed as a backhanded insult at best, or a trapdoor/gotcha question at worst. He went over dumb quotes and tweets Shapiro himself has adressed multiple times, pointed out old quotes merely to say 'see? You were wrong about that', and then acted obtuse when Shapiro called him out for having an agenda. Shapiro made himself look immature and stupid by ending the interview and also saying 'well I've never heard of you', but he was right that the whole thing was a giant waste of time. It was ostensibly an interview about his new book, and the guy spent maybe 30% of the interview even talking about the book. When he was, it was just a way to say bullshit like 'well see, you say this in the book, but if we look at this 7 year old tweet of yours, blahblah'. He has been confronted with old tweets, pro-choice mischaracterization, "Ben Shapiro Destroys!" videos, and attacks on his own possibly incendiary rhetoric in many instances. The interviewer wasn't breaking fresh ground. He properly addressed them in the past, copy, paste, done. Truly perplexing.
Troy McClure he didn’t address them in the past, he made a blog post listing them as dumb things he’s said yet his current rhetoric remains the same, only difference is he articulates them better. Idiots like you may fall for this but those of us with 2 brain cells to rub together know better. Neil did exactly what an interviewer should do, he asked him questions about his beliefs and gave him a chance to elaborate.
To be fair to Ben, the BBC had been very biased but not Andrew Neil, Andrew is a highly respected figure in the uk and has always been a very fair and unbiased reporter for the BBC and is generally considered one of the more conservative figures in British journalism, it’s a real shame Shapiro was so rude when he came face to face with a more experienced journalist.
Part of the problem was that Shapiro wasn't used to British interviewing style. Quite frankly, I felt his masque slipped a bit and we saw that he's truly disinterested in dialogue and is simply motivated by bronze age mythology and will throw a tantrum if confronted.
Shapiro writes a book, a significant part of which is about the problems with hate and anger in today’s politics. It was therefore correct for Neil to investigate a bit on how Shapiro has contributed to that himself. Particularly with regards to his comments on Palestinians, anti abortion. You could also include immigrants or gay people or trans. Muslim etc
If someone wants to do a hit piece that’s fine. Don’t invite the person on live television, and then pretend you don’t understand why they can’t act cordial.
@@AjaxDGonzoit ain't a hitpiece when the author says and writes different things making him a hypocrite, and if he can't defend what he's saying then he's straight up lying. Not every ounce of program on the news is designed to take down other people, you sound ingorant...
@@erdalciceklic9483 are you seriously implying Ben hasn’t been able to defend or debate issues of abortion? I don’t think you’ve seen a lot of Shapiro. And asking someone “in what way is this law not draconian?” Is a terrible way to ask a question, he was clearly committing a fallacy and trying to get the guest flustered instead of actually asking him the question, it’s like if I asked “ why do you think it’s okay to have millions of babies die every year from abortion?” instead of just asking “what is your stance on abortion?” I mean that’s ridiculous, I don’t believe you are that biased that you can’t see the problem with that.
@@AjaxDGonzo not abortion, the whole shit, he states people should have less hate and more conversations and goes back to calling Palestinians all kinds of bad shit, that's the hipocrisy he's facing and his ego blew it, not a hitpiece by any standards...
No, his mistake was not debating Andrew Neil. He should have defended the pro life argument which he does very articulately. I do love Andrew Neil though, exposing the SNP’s incompetence.
Ben's mistake was that in preparation for Andrew Neil he had spent his career traveling around the US, trolling and debating future Starbucks baristas.
He talks fast to outrun his flawed arguments. He is not as smart as people think (including Joe Rogan) and this interview showed it. Andrew Neil didn’t fall for personal attacks and obfuscations. He kept on point and Ben Shapiro was found wanting.
Ben was pissed that the BBC guy did to him exactly what Ben does to the 18 years old college freshmen. Just after 14:00 Ben litterally tell the BBC dude that what is does is wrong, by describing his own modus operandi.
That interview was the second time I heard Ben suggesting he's never uploaded videos with "DESTROYS" and other shit in their titles. I haven't looked it up until someone pointed out in a video that Ben actually did it. I haven't looked it up before because I was stupid enough not to do since I'd never thought Ben would be that stupid and would consider everyone else that stupid at the same time that he would lie about something such easy to check. So just tell me again that Ben Shapiro is so smart
"it's not his fault. He owned his mistake though and well done. It's the format etc. etc. etc." Jesus, talking about making excuses while Joe plugs the format he happens to interview as the only 'valid' one.
Exactly. For someone so smart he uses too many words. He over engineers his sentences. Intelligent people talk at a deliberate pace in direct coherent sentences, not unrestrained rambles. I think he is a smart guy with some good ideas and opinions but I find him hard to listen to.
"Look, there is the Guy who invented the Computer!" "Meh, doesn't seem too bright to me, did you listen to how slow He Talks? Cant be Very intelligent. Id rather listen to Ben Shapiro , He Talks Very fast, He is Very intelligent. " What is He talking about?" "I dont really Know."
Shapiro has been around hollywood and elite a long time. He knows how to talk to them, how to act in the higher echelons of society. Even Rogan is not above having his ego flattered by Shapiro when out to dinner.
Andrew Neil is vastly experienced and a tough interviewer and he doesn’t care who you are .... you are getting the same treatment. He has been dealing with smart and canny people his entire career, he just did what he always does and ask tough questions in an overbearing and slightly aggressive way... that’s him. Shapiro didn’t like it so Neil just played on that and got him riled up. Neil knee exactly what he was doing and if some smart young American comes onto British tv against someone like Andrew Neil they best be prepared.... and he wasn’t.
To be fair, Shapiro was asked to come on for an interview, so he didn't prepare for a debate. Shapiro says if he would have researched the guy, he would've known it was a debate, but he didn't do any research cus he is on a long book tour with a million interviews and he didn't think he was just going to get attacked.
But how was that a debate though? I see it as a genuine interview with necessary criticism. Ben was the one who turned it into a debate. Can't you see? He was the one starting a debate. Had he answered calmly, systematically, amd reasonably, it could have turned out as a good, comprehensive discussion
Andrew Neil is from Paisley, Scotland🏴. He's not going to back down from anyone. You could put Vladimir Putin on and he would tear him to pieces as well. Just saying.
You obviously never saw Neil interview Teresa May, or saw him talking to Laura Kuenssberg, he doesn't treat everyone equally, especially when he called Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser and ignored the government literally funding terrorists.
@@simonbaumgartle6357 too bad. Someone on his team probably did a 60 second google search on Neil, noticed he was a conservative and told Ben not to worry about it. I’m sure that dude is no longer working for Ben.
@@clandestinekits You say those words as if I should care about labels or feel insulted. Sorry to say I couldn't care any less. "Shapiro is an autistic midget with an inferiority complex, who hides behind big words and (barely) succeeds in arguments with unprepared college kids, but gets ANNIHILATED by a geezer." Is this one more to your liking?
@Mark n Your right, I looked up his Brexit stance and couldn't find an opinion either way. I just remember somebody referring to him as pro-Brexit in an article I read, but I couldn't find anything on it myself. My bad on that one.
@Mark n I think he probably wants to maintain the idea of impartiality since he has to grill both sides on a weekly basis; it would somewhat break the illusion if we knew his stance, I suppose. I'm not a fan of the BBC myself but I definitely think he's one of the best interviewers in the country.
Ben Shapiro be like, "Can you believe how easily the left gets offended when getting challenged! They run away from facts and refuse to have a dialogue! *A MOMENT LATER* How dare a conservative reporter ask me tough questions! I demand a safe space from these microaggressions!"
ben shapiro thinks he's a good debater because he only debates inexperienced college students who never held a mic. Debate a real left wing progressive like kyle kulinski and he would get crushed. Even his debate with Cenk was filled with logical fallacies
Isa then what does that say about our current education system in the u.s., when you have a bunch of clueless college students on campus... This is why we are 46th place in the world in education.
Ben Shapiro spitting his dummy out and crying about how famous he is was the funniest thing I've seen on the internet for a while. It's a bit different trying to spout nonsense when talking with an intelligent, calm & emotionally unattached adult rather than teenagers on a college campus.
It's hilarious bc even if u COMPLETELY misinterpreted your comment, it would still be 100% true: Ben Shapiro is anti-gay. So yes. He would be "scared" of the Big Black Cock.
Harvey Mc Nuggets Due to his religion he won’t go to gay marriages, gay after parties, or semi religious events but he has said he is fine with having dinner with a gay person, or having a business meeting with them.
Ben looks really good debating liberal arts undergrad students. When he comes up against someone with intelligence and experience he falls apart. Like with Sam Harris.
@@loualbino5536 he is actually a terrible debater. His main move is gish gallop. Completely disingenuous tactic. He doesn't want an exchange, but to make the other side look foolish trying to deal with him being a little prick. In an actual debate, with a moderator and specific topics, he loses because his ideas are actually nonsense.
Ben Shapiro absolutely made his own bed with this one. If you’re gonna make a career out of making Ted Cruz’s talking points sound intellectual, you better be prepared to defend yourself. The typical dishonest debate tactics (false dilemma’s, motte bailey’s, straw man’s, gish gallop’s, etc.) work with inexperienced college kids, but not with a guy who actually knows what you’re trying to do. If you have bad ideas, it doesn’t matter how fast you talk. Eventually people are gonna figure you out and expose your ass. It happened to Milo Yiannopoulos, it happened to Dave Rubin, and now it’s happening to Ben Shapiro. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out, clown
Piers morgan doesnt even count as a human being, let alone anything else. You can ignore literally anything that comes out of his mouth, even if he was trying to warn you of a fire behind you and you would still come off as the smart one
There was nothing wrong with the format here. The British dude just asked him questions and gave him ample time to respond. Ben is used to being in his conservative safe spaces and not being challenged at all.
If I asked you about the evil shit you did 10 years ago, and use that to smear your image, what can you say? Am sure you'd conclude it's a waste of time and walk off.
@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 the problem is, Ben has been known to not change his mind on a lot of those things. His own book contradicts him and his actions. Gee it's almost like your actions will have consequences if you dont address them.
@@irtazaazam2573 He apologized for some of the tweets. The journo could have asked him his current views, but he automatically assumed Ben's old tweet is still held today.
@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 and? The interviewer brought up facts as to what Ben said and gave Ben a platform to apologize and let people know Ben has changed opinions. It really isnt that hard to say the fact that "I think differently now" or "I was wrong", but Ben had to get his feelings hurt and walk away and insult the interviewer. Either Ben still believes in those things or he lets his feelings dictate the conversation instead of facts.
@@irtazaazam2573 So the whole interview was just an apology tour and not an interview about present matters? The journo angered Ben by using his old tweets and say, "This old tweet violates your religious codes." I mean, is the interviewer looking for perfectionism. That to me shows how ridiculous his questionings are.
Seriously, it's like Biden saying Cheney is a decent man and that he likes him. Except Rogan is great at what he does and Ben has probably killed a few million less people than Cheney.
Yeah, it was a good, what, 12 minute interview? Ended by Shapiro. On CNN you get 3 minutes if you're lucky. It's amazing thata 24 hour rolling news has created the shortest interviews. Why are 24 hour corporate news channels always cutting things short because they're out of time?
Andrew Neil uses that approach with everyone. Right or left. Ben, who I usually like, handled Neil worse than anyone I’ve ever seen. Nothing wrong with that format. He asked him clear questions, and Ben couldn’t handle it at all.
Ben was totally outclassed by a good journalist who had done his homework! Ben thinks talking fast is being smart. This is what happens when someone is dogmatic and mistakes and views everything and everyone either as liberal or conservative.
I love how everyone here is finally happy Ben Shapiro messed up on an interview by someone intentionally trying to make him look evil and bringing up old tweets. He messes up one time and everyone freaks out thinking Ben is stupid.
No, no, BS didn't "mess up". That's who he is. He's not a good debater. He's not intelligent. He just has a strategy to win debates with 19 year old kids. In that interview he showed who he actually is. Emotional. Weak. Pathetic. Petty.
@@johnc3525 Gish galloping anxious college freshmen is all he’s ever been decent at. Failed screenwriter turned right wing pundit. It’s funny how many of these guys failed in Hollywood and now take out all their anger on lame liberal celebrities
Fonso_Arc ....and let’s not forgot the numerous times he’s talked about living in the greatest nation ever. @Michael there’s more substance to the man then you suggest. Also what’s wrong about caring for a state that represents your religion more than anywhere else in the world?
Leonardo Hernandez Jimmy Dean Jimbo that’s fine, a lot of hate in there, but your opinion. I think my point was along the lines that Israel represents Ben’s religion, so why would he not show support for it. And as an outsider looking in, it would seem that tiny little Israel (in relation to its neighbors) is surrounded but countries that either won’t recognise its existence or have expressed interest in wiping them off the map. I’m sure Ben has had relatives that did not make it past 1945 and this is something that’s always in the forefront of his mind when it comes to anti-semetism. If you’ve ever listened to his 2nd amendment arguments, he uses his Jewish history to point out that they might have been able to at least put up a fight against the Nazi’s had been able to arm themselves. Anyway, that’s digressing. Even though I don’t agree, thx for your opinion.
I watched the interview and the host did not seem rude to me. I think what was evident from Ben's behavior is that he is more concerned with someone's popularity then there ability to engage in an intelligent conversation. I have some news for Ben, there are over 7 billion people on this planet so the world is a whole lot larger than his RUclips following and if you want to present your ideas outside of your little fanboy group get used to the idea of engaging with others. You know the whole idea of public debate and what not.
He lost a debate to a guy who wasn't trying to debate him...
But he’s more famous than him so how’d he lose buddy 🤣
Nick and josh lover 1 I But that doesn’t matter? Also you may not know him because are you from America or the UK? So yes he got his ass handed to him.
TheGirly Girl nah I was being sarcastic because that’s what Bens response was 😂
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Nick and josh lover 1 irrelevant
The idea that both of hem think that Andrew Neil was being rude is extraordinary.
It's rude to have all the stupid and wrong shit you said in the past read back to you. And to suddenly find out that not even you can defend what you say.
@@sayno2lolzisbackHe(BS)was doing an interview for the sole purpose of promoting a book. Th general premise of the book was BS lamenting the state of political discord,and the apparent inability for some to remain civil and objective whilst debating contentious issues. Rather than merely agreeing, and fulfilling the usual role of a MSM hack providing a platform for another corporate stooge, the interviewer questioned BS's participation in the very practices(for profit) he was now decrying (for profit). In the UK we occasionally test the value of someone's character by examining their past. In short Ben is full of it,and didn't expect a fellow right wing lunatic to point this out in public. Usually there's an unspoken rule where inconsistencies are ignored until it becomes impossible to do so!
@@edbarrett7692 I was being ironic!
@@sayno2lolzisback That was the whole point though. He was complaining in his book about how america is divided and attacking each others, but that was all he did his whole career. The irony was indefensible.
Ben had done to him what he's done to so many others, particularly 19 year old students on campuses across the US. A grown up challenged him and Ben fell to pieces.
Exactly, Shapiro is an out and out conversational bully. His debate style is always to try and humiliate the other person. Neil calmly asked him to defend his statements, wouldn't be bullied, and Shapiro collapsed.
Shapiro is now supposedly 'owning' his inability to answer those questions in this interview by making excuses about not having researched Neil first. The fact is it shouldn't matter who is asking the questions, what matters is whether you can explain yourself. Shapiro was shown up as a biased loudmouth with some repulsive views.
@@exweized3595 I don't buy this. People humiliate themselves. Often, his responses are cut and dry, straightforward
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour There are 2 basic conversational styles: one is to have a 2 way dialogue where you present your argument and see what you can learn from the other person's point of view. The second, Shapiro's style, is purely confrontational, where u don't seek to learn anything or understand the other pov, instead your aim is to Win the conversation and ideally humiliate the other person.
Shapiro is either too egotistical to
understand that he might often be wrong, or he is aware but knows that he generates more clicks and money by being obnoxious. This is what his fanboys want to see - "Shapiro DESTROYS
I have no time for him. He's a well-educated man who deliberately takes simplistic, populist and often racist positions in order to earn his living. He chooses to be a source of further divisiveness in a fractured society. In my book that makes him a piece of sh!t
@@exweized3595 I've seen plenty of conversations that are not confrontational whatsoever on his Sunday Special, JRE, and other podcast clips. Clearly, you're only using debate/Q&A clips as your evidence.
It's all a moot point, though, since you said he has racist views which is something you only say when you make up his views to serve your agenda.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour Shapiro blames black 'culture' for low educational achievement in the US. It's badly disguised dog whistle for supporters of racial superiority. Here boy !
I think what he did was more than just "he fucked up" I think it revealed how he really feels about certain things. Especially attacking the guy for not being as famous as him.
Proper mask off
@iatealready That Candace Owen's need to get interviewed by that brilliant BBC journalist. She would get destroyed.
Shapiro ridiculing the interviewer for being less famous was the most unexpected and embarrassing bit for me
He embarrasses himself often when he's not debating random 19 year old college students.
Ben Carson's Blackness and it’s not even true outside of America and maybe Canada.
@@charlesverg2184 that joke has been made a million times. Are you not capable of independent thought ?
@@ap3shhh clearly neither is Ben considering his go to was "muh I'm popular you leftist"
@@ap3shhh He wasn't joking
More than anything, the BBC interview shows just how far American journalism has fallen; replaced by vlogs and echo chambers.
EXACTLY!
This
He asks the BBC Interviewer : "Are you an objective reporter?"
The interviewer responds: "I'm a journalist who asks questions."
Most news people in America pick left or right and go to battle. It's strange to watch news from somewhere else and see how different it is, with more emphasis on the questions as apposed to the battle.
@@Numbskull727 Being from the UK I can tell you Andrew Neil (the interviewer is very good at his job (despite my personal reservations about the BBC anyway). The BBC I imagine is completely different playground to what Ben Shapiro is used to in that Neil will automatically take the opposite view to his interviewee no matter what position they take to basically test him round and rebuff them, Shapiro was simply poor in not doing his research into knowing this is the technique used when debating and Andrew Neill is a tough nut, like Jeremy Paxman. I do imagine if Shapiro knew and perhaps there would be another interview sometime in years to come it will go much better for him as he's clearly intelligent and makes good arguments.
U.K. journaislm isn’t much better. The interviewer in question is actually right wing but is quite good at holding both sides to account. He’s a rarity though.
Its not had to understand at all: Neil did not let Shapiro off the hook, he did not allow him to shift the topic, or to drag up “what aboutisms,” as Shapiro is used to doing, and insisted on a straight up answer. And Shapiro could not handle it.
BINGO
If only Andrew Neil was a bit younger and attending university. Then he’d be a match for Shapiro
Yeah Shapiro kept trying to needle him saying you said my ideas are from the dark ages or barbaric the host was like uh huh
Andrew Neil did say laws banning late term abortion are barbaric.
Not very reasonable and easily sounds like a ‘progressive’
@@jimmy2k4o that isn’t actually his opinion. As far as I know, Andrew Neil is pretty critical of abortion. But his style of interviewing is that he deliberately brings up hypothetical counterarguments in order to interrogate what the interviewee is saying. He is saying that other people may say bans on abortion are “barbaric”, not that he believes that.
Only Joe rogan could defend Ben Shaprio in this situation. The interview was so calm and straight forward. He was barely challenged.
Joe never holds Conservatives accountable
@@dwightluqa6870 Steven "held accountable by Joe Rogan" Crowder would like a word.
Ignorant dumbass.
@@Alex-ue1bs eh, he's just an idiot, not hard to hold him accountable. Much harder for joe to speak out about Peterson or Shapiro
@@Weazla- lmao imagine thinking Jordan Peterson is a "conservative"...
@@mediocrates1937 I couldn't imagine a word more synonymous with Jordan Peterson than "conservative"
Ben didn't really own his mistake, because he thinks his mistake was "not knowing that the interviewer wasn't a leftist". That wasn't his mistake. Even if the interviewer had been on the left, Shapiro still would've been stupid for objecting to the questions and storming out.
Ironically cowardly. He's just not used to being confronted by somone who isint a college student.
A Dark Future Does Cenk not count
@@slmb_b nah he does. But thats like 1/100. + cenk is a demagogue and a moron in debates.
No, what you aren't considering is that he was there under.an understanding that.this guy was a conservative. When he goes on a show he is basically sponsoring it in a sense. If he thought this guy lied to him to ambush him he would have been right to walk off; however, giving him a reaction that way would have still been a mistake.
@@ruhap9311 what a complete crock😂😂 A quick RUclips search about Andrew Neil would have told Benny boy who he was dealing with. A journalist who challenges people on their views regardless of his own political leanings. If Shapiro thought that Neil being a Conservative meant he was going to pander to him, that was his mistake. It was an interview and Shapiro had an opportunity to clarify his view on things. The interviewer didnt fall for Shapiro's amateur debate tactics and kept the interview on track. Poor little Ben imploded when he couldnt get his own way and stomped off like a spoilt kid😂😂
Putting any blame on the BBC or the interviewer or the short time format is complete deflection. Ben was a hypocrite. Couldn't answer a simple direct question and reacted emotionally because of it. Good on him for owning it after the fact but he revealed something really two faced about himself in that interview. And as for Joe's point about the interview format, has he considered that the long interview form possibly comes with its own set of problems? That you only end up interviewing people that you're friendly with, and also that people can constantly claim "I was taken out of context" even when they weren't? Ben met someone that didn't want to be friends with him, and only wanted to examine his beliefs and words, and he couldn't handle that. End of.
100% agree. Joe likes to talk about the format of news interviews being too short and not free-form to let peoples actual ideas come out.
That wasn't the case with the BBC interview though, it was 1 on 1 and the interviewer was asking direct questions. Ben just couldn't handle it when someone wasn't tossing softball questions
@@caseyk5245 we all screw up but we don't all have a consistent schtick claiming that we're better than the mainstream media. Having that and then acting as he did is hypocrisy by any reasonable definition of hypocrisy.
@@caseyk5245 he was literally calling out Andrew Neil for things that he was doing right then and there, without even knowing who Neil was. That's beyond a screw up. It's arrogance, ignorance and hypocrisy rolled into one.
@@caseyk5245 Sounds like you will constantly white knight for Ben "No one else's feelings matter but my own" Shapiro. One screw up, two screw ups, three screw ups; doesn't matter. A screw up is when you can't answer hard questions on topics you are new to. In the BBC interview, he got triggered from the first question, couldn't and wouldn't answer any question; got all angry and deflected with nonsense. And these questions were all on his own words. That's not a 'screw up', it is a clear indication of just how hypocritical and unqualified he is. Not to mention he didn't even have the courage to own his words. Unless he is given a straw man and months of prep, Shapiro can't handle real interviews.
pandafat I don’t think it was even “softball questions.” It was that Andrew Neil just would not let him drag up what aboutisms or change the topic, which is one of Shapiro’s favorite tactics. He put him on the hook and just would not let him wriggle his way off. And Shapiro could not handle it.
For anyone outside of the UK unaware, Andrew Neil is renowned for utterly demolishing people in interviews ; they recently cancelled his show which is a shame, as he cuts straight through the BS
They didn't cancel him, he cancelled himself to co-create and chair Gb news (known disparagingly as Gbeebies, taken from the kids' channel Cbeebies, because the station he helped set up is not a news station at all, instead it's a nursery full of hyperactive, far right, overgrown children).
He has effectively thrown his career and the credibility he garnered via the BBC out the window. It is a quite spectacular, self-inflicted implosion.
When the (UK) government needed held to account at the most challenging time in our history, he was nowhere to be seen. He literally hid from journalistic responsibility and he'll probably not recover.
@@wall-e7179 gbnews has "crafty wank" darren grimes doesnt it? 🤣🤣
Andrew Neil isn’t renowned for demolishing people. No one watches him
@@wall-e7179
I love GBNEWS !
We are all biased … so pick a team and stick with it 🤷♂️
I don't like him, if you saw him interview Jeremy corbyn he was accusing him of being an anti semite and asking him if he had an apology fir the Jews, and every time he tried to say he wasn't or explain how what he'd said was taken out if context Neil would say 'so no apology then? Let me ask you again...', and that's the way ye operates
These two are doing their hardest to defend Ben lol.
Lol yeah. They talk about it like he lost a round in a sports match. I find that Joe tends to agree on EVERYTHING with a guy who blew his mind ones about one thing. F’n non-discerning idiot
@@ermiasd2695 why do you think ben was in the wrong there?
@@LeMaqnifique what did he say that was stupid?
@@LeMaqnifique he fucks up one time on tv and thats what you base your entire view of him on, you’re the only moron in the equation
@@gfy6448 he was unable to name a single idea or concept from "the conservative halls of intelligentsia" despite saying there was a lively debate within it
Ben admitted he was wrong only after he found out the interviewer was right wing. Had the interviewer been left wing, he woulda continued on his tirade.
Exactly. He only did it to save face because there was *no* way to defend himself when the person he was criticizing was so blatantly *not* left wing.
Of course, but he would never attempt to debate a competent left wing commentator. That's why he goes after college and HS students rather than grown adults
Devic13 100%
Ben Shapiro is a manchild
@@Jrock420blam obviously you haven't seen any of his interviews. You only know the college student ones bc those get clicks.
Or... He wasn't prepared and fucked up... Why do you have to assume the worst in everyone?
It's ironic because Ben Shapiro destroys himself with feelings this time.
Ben Shapiro's feeling doesnt care about Ben Shapiro.
Ben didn't handle the interview as well as usual but are we all going to ignore that Ben was correct that the interviewer was in fact going into the interview with an agenda? I don't care if the interviewer was liberal or not, he obviously had it out for Ben and OBVIOUSLY had a biased agenda regarding abortion.
Ben was 100% correct in his assessment of the interviewer, he simply reacted emotionally. Ben should have kept calling out the interviewer and his bias and let the interviewer cut the interview short.
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Agreed, his worse interview so far, and that’s saying something. I would like like to add that Shapiro was asked by the BBC to do an interview on his book, not a debate on politics or why he said in the past. And the interviewer never asked questions about the book he was told was the reason for the interview.
@@nickdipaolofan5948 His agenda was having an interesting interview and not spoon-feeding Ben. THAT'S an agenda?
@@spinner771 Nazi bitch troll wants attention. I'll give you attention, you little bitch.
Arrogance never works well no matter which side you are on. Great way to lose your credibility quickly.
Lost credibility? Not even close
@@rileyfussell935 You're right. Can't lose it if you never had it to begin with, eh? Good point!
@@rileyfussell935 you and Chris make a great point.
“Arrogance may not be a uniquely American trait, but I must say you do it better than anyone!”-The Red Skull
@@dkupke
I didn't imagine this quote to be here.
But I'm glad it is!
Jesus, Joe, it's an interview, not a conversation. Not everything has to be 3 hours long talks between pals.
Its 2 minutes lol.
@@ChrisChras it was 16 minutes, thats plenty of time
"He knows what the BBC is too"
Right, so why did he accuse Andrew Neil of 'trying to make a quick buck' out of him on the publically-funded BBC? 🤣
A quick buck can definitely be made on the bbc, publicity is a form of payment, as is infamy.
Neil can now go on a bunch of non bbc shows and interviews and make money.
Shapiro went home all self-righteous on how he "destroyed leftist BBC Neil with non-answers and feelings", saw his social media feed blow up with how hypocritical he was, and went into "that was a small mistake, let's forget all about it" mode.
@@inconvenientfacts58 lmao he literally asked people to let him be in his safe space, politely
@Wilbur Wafer Not really relevant to my comment is it?
As Shapiro isnt employed by a publicly funded BBC. But well done for trying.
@Wilbur Wafer Trying to contribute to or refute what I said, basically being part of a conversation..
Well of course I have kept a log of all Andrew Neil appearances from a year ago I just happen to have misplaced it. /s
Do you not see this as good publicity for within and without the BBC for Neil? Are you really going to tell me this doesn't help him? Are you trying to say that?
Shapiro came across like a spoilt kid; Andrew Neil is famous for this type of questioning.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about
Isn't BBC the network that covered up for a serial child abuser for decades? - They did finally own up to it now that he is dead
just watched the entire interview. The only good point the guy made was to point out how Shapiro has possibly contributed to the anger of public discourse with his rhetoric. Practically every other question he asked was designed as a backhanded insult at best, or a trapdoor/gotcha question at worst. He went over dumb quotes and tweets Shapiro himself has adressed multiple times, pointed out old quotes merely to say 'see? You were wrong about that', and then acted obtuse when Shapiro called him out for having an agenda. Shapiro made himself look immature and stupid by ending the interview and also saying 'well I've never heard of you', but he was right that the whole thing was a giant waste of time. It was ostensibly an interview about his new book, and the guy spent maybe 30% of the interview even talking about the book. When he was, it was just a way to say bullshit like 'well see, you say this in the book, but if we look at this 7 year old tweet of yours, blahblah'.
He has been confronted with old tweets, pro-choice mischaracterization, "Ben Shapiro Destroys!" videos, and attacks on his own possibly incendiary rhetoric in many instances.
The interviewer wasn't breaking fresh ground. He properly addressed them in the past, copy, paste, done. Truly perplexing.
Please educate yourself and research more LMAO
@@troymcclure681 This was a BBC program in the UK, the interview was via satellite. Shapiro is not well known in the UK, therefore it was permissible to go into his background. Shapiro came across arrogant almost like "Do you know who I am? How dare you"..... very immature.
Andrew's style is combative, adversarial and to the point, something that is not the norm in the US. Shapiro should have done his research and prepared himself which evidently he didn't. He may well have been ambushed by Andrew but I assure you he treats everyone the same. Shapiro's petulant behaviour only shows how weak his argument really is, when challenged he could only retort with personal insults.
The problem I think is Shapiro expected a nice little plug for his book, a little gentle chit chat, instead, he got mugged.
Why bring up Jimmy Savile that is a totally different issue, not relevant at all, no more than an Ad Hominem attack by yourself which says a lot about you, keep to the point.
Your rant comes across rather bigoted.
I'm no fan of Andrew Neill as far as his politics go, but as a journalist he's formidible, he'll destroy anyone who's not prepared regardless of their political leaning. Shapiro tried to put him down by saying he'd never heard of him, well if he had he might have avoided this mauling.
And the child abuse scandal is totally irrelevant to Andrew Neill, the BBC is an enormous corporation, it's like trying to put down Shapiro with the Vietnam war just because he's American
@@troymcclure681 straw man much?
@@coyote5735 Exactly which of Ben's arguments are "weak"?
He didn't own his mistake. He said he got destroyed because he "wasn't prepared", but being prepared wasn't the issue, it was his ego and attitude that was his downfall. He tried to debate during, what was suppose to be, a discussion. Shapiro can dominate debates, because it you only need to hear, not understand your opponent. His narcissism gets in the way of civil discourse.
As a Brit I can tell you Andrew Neil was completely fair. The questions weren't even that difficult. This is just what happens when people like Ben leave their echo Chambers and experience real journalism.
Speaking as a US citizen, the political right has made a habit of dragging up what about-isms when they are under pressure, with “But Hillary” being one of their favorites. They have also made a habit of crying “fake news” when things don’t go their way, as Ben Shapiro did here. Wonder where they learned that?
@@dkupke from your president.
short time format? guy sperged out and stormed out. thats why it was so short lul
What Joe means by short time format, he asks a loaded question and regardless of the answer, moves on to another.
No kidding.
Listen to the questions. There is an obvious bent
@Plebeian Media just because he stormed out and rage quit doesn't mean the questions weren't loaded.
@Plebeian Media yes they were, the fuck? Ben thought he was being interviewed on his new book, and then got asked why he supported "midieval" abortion laws. Don't be a partisan hack, that's bent asf and you know it.
Its was hilarious to see Ben prove exactly the point that Neil was making, that American politics has descended into a shouting match. Its was beautiful to see.
Manipulation. Ben just didn't care for the set up hit job so he left
@@slappyhappy6192 NOPE!!!
slappy happy haha, when you spout hateful shit like Ben you gotta expect to be called out on it, but little Ben got hurt and ran away.
Ben was wrong but not in the way you think. Neil brought up tweets from the past that had nothing to do with the book. Shapiro had already addressed them in various articles. Where Shapiro went wrong was in his hypothesis, that anger is the problem with discourse. It should be Cynicism is the problem in discourse. If I say something and you get angry I have no control over that. It's people who think they can read people's minds, their ulterior motives with 100% accuracy that's the problem. But Shapiros gripe was in the interviewers bias. Im not supposed to be able to know where a journalist stands on an issue but clearly we did with his dark-ages comment. The interviewer was terrible, but Shapiro got angry and cynical too.
@@slappyhappy6192 all Neil did was ask simple questions about things that Ben has previously said, is it really that easy to manipilate Shapiro? Holy shit he must be a moron if that's the case
Ben really played the "i never heard of you" card lol.
The British guy was talking to him just fine Rogan pffffffft.
seriously
Rogan is a joke, he’s not serious yet people take him seriously.
Moreover he’s doesn’t sound upperclass English, Andrew Neil is Scottish 🏴
@@jwjgreenwood9806 bit random but okay
Murty Gwop not random 😂 if you look at the clip it sounded like he was putting on an upper class English accent when rogan was mocking Neil, so I was just pointing out to the us audience that he is Scottish- although I have to admit the other possibility that maybe rogan is just bad at accents 😂
Ben "I'm popular and I've never heard of you." Shapiro
when you start thinking like that, it's the beginning of the end
The look of disbelief on Ben when Neil said he hasn’t heard of Ben was so great
I didn’t know clout was a thing conservatives cared about. I thought they cared more about facts and reason.
@@Dinosaursof they dont personally people do if you are a very popular person then you see yourself as having clout and being in a higher status which is true though it makes you look like a douche when acknowledging it and thats qhat he did
@@wolfregiment5679 Yep, Shapiro fucked up, but he owned up to it. A humbling experience for him
Ben Shapiro: "I'm taking my ball and going home"
Birds of a feather. Joe Rogan is the same. After Biden won the Dem nomination over Sanders, he said that he'd 'rather vote trump than Biden' because his man(Sanders) wasn't chosen.
Technically he said he'd vote anyone over Biden cuz his mind is slipping
Lol that an Eminem song u should hear it it's called taking my ball
location it's not very good though, let's be honest lol
Hahaha
The telling thing about that interview was that Shapiro is so used to US media, that he couldn’t comprehend that a journalist doesn’t necessarily need to have a ‘side’, and their job is to try and probe and get to the truth. It really showed the chasm in professionalism and talent between an established Conservative journalist like Neil, and an absolute charlatan like Shapiro.
It wasn't even a debate. It was an interview and he lost that somehow? His narcissism got the better of him
Ben Shapiro talks fast because it's a common debating tactic to try and overwhelm the other person. If you can speak faster, and keep the conversation moving, they won't be able to address all of your points. The reason Ben had such a bad interview is because he ran into someone who is able to call him out on what he's saying without getting sidetracked.
Nathan Giles Yep, it’s a “Gish gallop”. And yes, it HAS to be called out as soon as you see the person attempting to do it, so you can go through every single statement / point they make, one at the time. It’s his no1 debate tactic, and it’s honestly sad to see how many fall for it. So many times when you break down what he said it’s 1-2 facts strung together with a whole lot more opinions and random non factual statements disguised as facts.
You both are being ridiculous. Ben just talks fast. It's not a tactic. It is just how he talks.
Also, in a debate, a real debate, such as in a debate club at a school or something similar, they talk fast on purpose because they are supposed to. And they don't talk "Ben Shapiro fast", they talk "micro machines guy from those old commercials" fast. It's not a debate tactic to overwhelm the other side, it is just how a formal debate is done.
If the site of Ben Shapiro's speech is overwhelming to you, then you should work on your language comprehension skills. I can listen to him at 1.5x speed and keep up just fine.
Kur Norock LOL. His speech is not overwhelming to me. And yes it is a debate tactic - regardless if he has made himself aware of it or not. To overwhelm your debating opponent with statements and half truths in a consecutive row doesn’t mean the opponent isn’t understanding what’s being said, but rather they are unable to debate and call out the bullshit before he has jumped over to the next point.
Clearly this tactic doesn’t work on me nor did I ever said I was prone to that. I simply pointed out how this only ever work on people who aren’t prepared for it and who aren’t stopping him in his track to properly debate the answers he brings up. And when he meet people who do that, then Ben is more likely to fail as his tactic didn’t work. As shown in the BBC interview.
@@odinsplaygrounds Have you ever actually watched him debate people? He gives them plenty of opportunity to counter his points, he addresses all of their points, and he even allows people followup questions when that is generally not allowed due to time constraints.
Also, what half truths?
You are just throwing out accusations because you don't agree with the guy. You next to nothing about him.
He also uses a technique mastered by radio shock jocks: he very slowly needles people while being as polite as possible, so when they finally lose their temper he can play injured party and say “See, you have no LOGIC because you resort to emotion!” It’s totally predictable.
The highlight of the Shapiro interview and what gets me the most is that Andrew Neil starts holding Shapiro to his own words and THAT seems to be what sets him off. Imagine if someone asked you about your previous statements and you blow up on them about it. Almost like Shapiro is disgusted with himself.
You're an idiot
Isn't BBC the network that covered up for a serial child abuser for decades? - They did finally own up to it now that he is dead
just watched the entire interview. The only good point the guy made was to point out how Shapiro has possibly contributed to the anger of public discourse with his rhetoric. Practically every other question he asked was designed as a backhanded insult at best, or a trapdoor/gotcha question at worst. He went over dumb quotes and tweets Shapiro himself has adressed multiple times, pointed out old quotes merely to say 'see? You were wrong about that', and then acted obtuse when Shapiro called him out for having an agenda. Shapiro made himself look immature and stupid by ending the interview and also saying 'well I've never heard of you', but he was right that the whole thing was a giant waste of time. It was ostensibly an interview about his new book, and the guy spent maybe 30% of the interview even talking about the book. When he was, it was just a way to say bullshit like 'well see, you say this in the book, but if we look at this 7 year old tweet of yours, blahblah'.
He has been confronted with old tweets, pro-choice mischaracterization, "Ben Shapiro Destroys!" videos, and attacks on his own possibly incendiary rhetoric in many instances.
The interviewer wasn't breaking fresh ground. He properly addressed them in the past, copy, paste, done. Truly perplexing.
Please educate yourself and research more
Troy McClure your boy made a fool of himself, get over it take the L
@@troymcclure681 I'm glad you know how to control c and control p. You've got a lot of practice in so these comments. Haha, you're so lame!
Took a page out of trump's book
@@troymcclure681 opinion didn't bring up BBC at all, the focus is on Neil and Shapiro.
Ben missed his Fox Sugardaddys
Ben Shapiro wasn't prepared to have an interviewer who wasn't sympathetic to him, this is why the lack of political neutral news stations is a big problem in the US
What the hell is Joe talking about?
1) The interviewer is always like that with the people he interviews, left, right, centre, in the room, out of the room. What he conducted was something that Shapiro isn’t used to with American journalists, and that is that Neil actually asks questions and doesn’t settle for crappy crappy answers.
2) that interview was over 10 minutes long, the only reason it wasn’t longer was because Shapiro cut it short and ran. This isn’t American TV where they need to cut to commercials every 2 minutes, we give people time, to make themselves look stupid .. not to make fat wads of cash.
THIS
Amazin'
Yeah, BBC doesn't even have commercials. (Not counting trailers for their own shows.)
@Patrick Ryan All those videos were infact on dunce Shapiro's channel, titled by his own staff. Stop making excuses for this grifter and scum bag Shapiro.
Patrick Ryan you’re not used to journalists that don’t go soft on guests. This is your problem not the journalists.
Andrew Neil went easy on him, that's what happens when an American steps out of their safe space and talks to a real journalist.
don't drag all Americans it's just one shillpiro.
Anton M a real journalist wouldn’t rant about how immoral it is to not murder babies lol he was big mad
@@forbesfoofighters he was playing Devils Advocate asking tuff questions from a oppositions vantage point. Are you really this dumb I thought Shapiro fans loved debate and would understand this very mundane and common practice.
TheEvolver311 how am I a Shapiro fan, lol I’m simply just saying that the guy interviewing him had a very clear agenda which was to promote baby murder and throw straw man arguments at him.
Ben's fast talking is the definition of "if u cant beat them, confuse them"
To say “Ben Shapiro Admitted his error” is still down playing what happened. Ben lost so much credibility and exposed himself as a sort of One Trick Pony. And his recanting of what happened was lacking in seriousness. He went on a show where he was out of his element and to a point acted unprofessionally. Do we all make mistakes? Absolutely! But from what happened it seems like the correction was more an attempt to save face and ego.
Joe rogan is a conservative
Rogan went real soft on Shapiro, in this clip.
Rogan is soft on every guest
He wants him back on lol
he is his friend. meathead rogan can't say anything bad about people who have shared dinner with him.
@@mischkin3588 Shapiro famously turned down an invitation by Dave Rubin to attend a party by saying"well maybe if it isn't a gay party" on camera with no irony at all, probably because Rubin sucks and could probably never throw a good party. This man has seen bar mitzvahs
Modern plato.
Ben got demolished in that interview, he was outclassed and resorted to ad hominem attacks, it was weak. He tried to turn an interview in to a debate and just failed.
Look at you using the big word like a smart person. Keep chuggin.
@@ruhap9311 big words? We call it English vocabulary.
@@SingularityMediaThat's cool. So what was a fallacy he used? You must have one in mind.
@@ruhap9311 I made that post a year ago. I ain't rewatching this shit just to please your ego.
@@SingularityMedia I understand, I'm not either, just a lot of people can't make a rational point and was hoping to run across one. Don't know how ego got in the equation.
Andrew Neill being accused of being left wing was one of the most hilarious things for viewers in Europe who know who he is.
Shapiro is used to the partisan environment and couldn't answer straight questions
There was a comment in the original BBC video by a person:
Die Manner, 2 years ago: ''I've seen people lose debates. This is the first time I watched someone lose an interview.''
Fact doesn't care about your feeling - ben shapiro to ben shapiro
Such an emotional quote. Makes me cry every time.
WRONG! Ben called Britain's most well known conservative a leftist... the USA bubble: lolz!
William Willaims lol true
What are the interviewers views that are conservative?
Britain's conservatives are more left leaning than America's conservatives.
Captain Voluntaryist, The Statist Slayer don’t listen to him, he’s far from Right. He works for the BBC the most left wing media in the UK
Brits talking about Americans being in a bubble lol!!!!!! Makes me laugh seeing idiots like this talk down on Americans when your country has already been utterly cucked.
He just didn’t know that (in general) in the U.K. the interviewer acts as a person who simply asks questions. They (in general) act as a devils advocate proposing another idea to the interviewer rather than putting their own opinion across
Amazing to watch Shapiro project everything he is onto the interviewer and judge him for it.
This is the reason why Rogan is a joke too:
“ the short format”
“The BBC ‘guy’ was not looking at him”
FFS
Ikr. Rogan knows Shapiro is good for views so gotta defend him.
I do like Rogan's podcasts but I accept and enjoy them being pretty lightweight and humourous.
Rogan’s only gotten more and more unhinged with his COVID misinformation
Jesus Christ Joe, that was your takeaway? This is why people have an issue with you, you have your blinders on full blast for your friends. Yeah, it was funny to watch Ben melt down like he did, but the substance of what was discussed (or attempted to be) was FAR more important. Shapiro writes a book decrying the volatile and hateful way we discuss politics, while at the same time perpetuating that hate and volatility with his own rhetoric.
Exactly brutha - and what he says about the Palestinians was so racist - finally Neil from the BBC called him on it & what really pissed me off is Joe doesn't acknowledge that -but who cares about Palestinians right - not Joe- and does everyone have to kiss ass ? Let's get this straight Ben is not a nice guy -he's nothing but an egotistical grown up child
@@billybob-vy4sw yeah right, nobody cares...
@@andobraun5614 just another ass kiss
this idea that Ben is some sort of far-Right firebrand is absolute bullshit that comes from the wretched mouths of people so far Left on the political and ideological spectrum that they give their family members olive drab shirts and guerilla warfare manuals on their birthdays. Ben's pretty much a neoliberal for god's sake...
@@mediocrates1937
Neoliberals aren't better, either.
"That short form format. He didn't have enough time." Ben literally walked out of the interview long before the host was over
Now Shen Bapiro can now go back to his level with 19 year old college undergrads.
What exactly is "and he knows what the BBC is" supposed to mean?
Ben Shapiro was being interviewed by a journalist on the BBC who is in many ways just as right-wing as he is but was playing Devil's advocate, so I'm not really sure what the implication was regarding the BBC in general.
The Ben meltdown was 100% ego. His ego was telling him “you don’t have to take this. How dare he challenge your opinions”
Shapiro makes far to many logical fallacies. He got beat at his own game in that interview. Was kinda funny.
What fallacies here? (Is the just a big word you've been wanting to use.). I don't care to defend Ben, I would just really love to see a valid opinion here,
kinda? c'mon man
A little man with ego issues got put in his place. Thats all about it.
The interviewer wasn’t rude. He was asking him legit questions, which Shapiro was triggered by. I know it’s news to Americans but that’s how journalists should behave. He was doing his job as a journalist. British journalists are like that with everyone they interview. Regardless of their own personal beliefs they’ll adopt the role of a critic and ask tough questions. Journalists like Neil have asked equally tough questions to both conservative politicians and liberal politicians. I guess Shapiro ran back to the safe space of Conservative American media after this interview.
This. It's even a problem here - Andrew Marr nuked every party leader over the past two weeks, left and right, leave and remain. But you only hear the crowd crying about the Farage interview, and how 'left' the BBC are because they dared to ask someone on their side a difficult question.
Lol you guys have Cathy Newman over there. Stop acting like your news doesn't have flaws as well. Fucking hypocrite.
@@nickydega4333 You're just making a straw-man argument. Never, not once, did anyone say that British media is flawless. Nevertheless, Conservative American media is just a safe space for conservatives.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about
Isn't BBC the network that covered up for a serial child abuser for decades? - They did finally own up to it now that he is dead
just watched the entire interview. The only good point the guy made was to point out how Shapiro has possibly contributed to the anger of public discourse with his rhetoric. Practically every other question he asked was designed as a backhanded insult at best, or a trapdoor/gotcha question at worst. He went over dumb quotes and tweets Shapiro himself has adressed multiple times, pointed out old quotes merely to say 'see? You were wrong about that', and then acted obtuse when Shapiro called him out for having an agenda. Shapiro made himself look immature and stupid by ending the interview and also saying 'well I've never heard of you', but he was right that the whole thing was a giant waste of time. It was ostensibly an interview about his new book, and the guy spent maybe 30% of the interview even talking about the book. When he was, it was just a way to say bullshit like 'well see, you say this in the book, but if we look at this 7 year old tweet of yours, blahblah'.
He has been confronted with old tweets, pro-choice mischaracterization, "Ben Shapiro Destroys!" videos, and attacks on his own possibly incendiary rhetoric in many instances.
The interviewer wasn't breaking fresh ground. He properly addressed them in the past, copy, paste, done. Truly perplexing.
Troy McClure he didn’t address them in the past, he made a blog post listing them as dumb things he’s said yet his current rhetoric remains the same, only difference is he articulates them better.
Idiots like you may fall for this but those of us with 2 brain cells to rub together know better.
Neil did exactly what an interviewer should do, he asked him questions about his beliefs and gave him a chance to elaborate.
BS got his ass handed to him on a plate.The Bbc interviewer was no hysterical college kid but a very experienced operator.
Imagine losing to someone who was playing Candy Crush on the side 😂
To be fair to Ben, the BBC had been very biased but not Andrew Neil, Andrew is a highly respected figure in the uk and has always been a very fair and unbiased reporter for the BBC and is generally considered one of the more conservative figures in British journalism, it’s a real shame Shapiro was so rude when he came face to face with a more experienced journalist.
Calling bullshit, the extreme right claims BBC bias and so does the extreme left, that means theyre doing their job.
Part of the problem was that Shapiro wasn't used to British interviewing style. Quite frankly, I felt his masque slipped a bit and we saw that he's truly disinterested in dialogue and is simply motivated by bronze age mythology and will throw a tantrum if confronted.
"British interviewing style"... really, that was his problem?
@@exdoode Yes. The American style is to bring the person on, stroke their ego, let them spout their views then plug their book.
Shapiro writes a book, a significant part of which is about the problems with hate and anger in today’s politics. It was therefore correct for Neil to investigate a bit on how Shapiro has contributed to that himself. Particularly with regards to his comments on Palestinians, anti abortion. You could also include immigrants or gay people or trans. Muslim etc
If someone wants to do a hit piece that’s fine. Don’t invite the person on live television, and then pretend you don’t understand why they can’t act cordial.
@@AjaxDGonzoit ain't a hitpiece when the author says and writes different things making him a hypocrite, and if he can't defend what he's saying then he's straight up lying. Not every ounce of program on the news is designed to take down other people, you sound ingorant...
@@erdalciceklic9483 are you seriously implying Ben hasn’t been able to defend or debate issues of abortion? I don’t think you’ve seen a lot of Shapiro. And asking someone “in what way is this law not draconian?” Is a terrible way to ask a question, he was clearly committing a fallacy and trying to get the guest flustered instead of actually asking him the question, it’s like if I asked “ why do you think it’s okay to have millions of babies die every year from abortion?” instead of just asking “what is your stance on abortion?” I mean that’s ridiculous, I don’t believe you are that biased that you can’t see the problem with that.
@@AjaxDGonzo not abortion, the whole shit, he states people should have less hate and more conversations and goes back to calling Palestinians all kinds of bad shit, that's the hipocrisy he's facing and his ego blew it, not a hitpiece by any standards...
Lets just face it, Ben got owned. And Andrew was not even trying.
"How greatly he totally failed that. He is such a great man." 😂 😂 😂
Ben's mistake was attempting to debate Andrew Neil. That's bringing a knife to a gun fight.
No, his mistake was not debating Andrew Neil.
He should have defended the pro life argument which he does very articulately.
I do love Andrew Neil though, exposing the SNP’s incompetence.
Not really, if Jeremy Corbyn could make him look stupid in his first interview with him then Shapiro should do it easily
@@Weazla- Obviously not easily since Shapiro was a baby and ran literally ran away in the middle of the interview.
@@bosmith1820 I meant "should do it easily"
Ben's mistake was that in preparation for Andrew Neil he had spent his career traveling around the US, trolling and debating future Starbucks baristas.
He talks fast to outrun his flawed arguments.
He is not as smart as people think (including Joe Rogan) and this interview showed it.
Andrew Neil didn’t fall for personal attacks and obfuscations.
He kept on point and Ben Shapiro was found wanting.
to be fair ben is smarter than rogan so joe can't really tell how stupid ben is
He tried american debating tactics against a seasoned British gentlemen 🤐
Ben was pissed that the BBC guy did to him exactly what Ben does to the 18 years old college freshmen. Just after 14:00 Ben litterally tell the BBC dude that what is does is wrong, by describing his own modus operandi.
That interview was the second time I heard Ben suggesting he's never uploaded videos with "DESTROYS" and other shit in their titles. I haven't looked it up until someone pointed out in a video that Ben actually did it. I haven't looked it up before because I was stupid enough not to do since I'd never thought Ben would be that stupid and would consider everyone else that stupid at the same time that he would lie about something such easy to check.
So just tell me again that Ben Shapiro is so smart
"it's not his fault. He owned his mistake though and well done. It's the format etc. etc. etc." Jesus, talking about making excuses while Joe plugs the format he happens to interview as the only 'valid' one.
Umm it is as the point of an interview is to get answers from your guests and a 2-3 hour format does it a lot better than any other form.
I dont get why people think Ben talking fast is a sign he's intelligent, he just sounds like a guy with bad ADHD
Exactly. For someone so smart he uses too many words. He over engineers his sentences. Intelligent people talk at a deliberate pace in direct coherent sentences, not unrestrained rambles.
I think he is a smart guy with some good ideas and opinions but I find him hard to listen to.
He just talks fast. Nobody thinks he is intellegent for talking fast.
*aspbergers
"Look, there is the Guy who invented the Computer!" "Meh, doesn't seem too bright to me, did you listen to how slow He Talks? Cant be Very intelligent. Id rather listen to Ben Shapiro , He Talks Very fast, He is Very intelligent. " What is He talking about?" "I dont really Know."
Holy shit I just said the same thing ! He sounds like a goddamn mental patient not a genius ! Conmen, crooks and mental people speak fast ! Facts !
Ben should've done some research on how Andrew Neil conducts interviews. All politicians in the UK have to go through Neil.
Lmfao at Joe Rogen trying to defend the in defencable. 😂
Joe defending a conservative what's new
Shapiro has been around hollywood and elite a long time. He knows how to talk to them, how to act in the higher echelons of society. Even Rogan is not above having his ego flattered by Shapiro when out to dinner.
Andrew Neil is vastly experienced and a tough interviewer and he doesn’t care who you are .... you are getting the same treatment. He has been dealing with smart and canny people his entire career, he just did what he always does and ask tough questions in an overbearing and slightly aggressive way... that’s him. Shapiro didn’t like it so Neil just played on that and got him riled up. Neil knee exactly what he was doing and if some smart young American comes onto British tv against someone like Andrew Neil they best be prepared.... and he wasn’t.
To be fair, Shapiro was asked to come on for an interview, so he didn't prepare for a debate. Shapiro says if he would have researched the guy, he would've known it was a debate, but he didn't do any research cus he is on a long book tour with a million interviews and he didn't think he was just going to get attacked.
But how was that a debate though? I see it as a genuine interview with necessary criticism. Ben was the one who turned it into a debate. Can't you see? He was the one starting a debate. Had he answered calmly, systematically, amd reasonably, it could have turned out as a good, comprehensive discussion
Andrew Neil is from Paisley, Scotland🏴. He's not going to back down from anyone. You could put Vladimir Putin on and he would tear him to pieces as well. Just saying.
You obviously never saw Neil interview Teresa May, or saw him talking to Laura Kuenssberg, he doesn't treat everyone equally, especially when he called Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser and ignored the government literally funding terrorists.
@@simonbaumgartle6357 too bad. Someone on his team probably did a 60 second google search on Neil, noticed he was a conservative and told Ben not to worry about it. I’m sure that dude is no longer working for Ben.
Ben Shapiro gets MAULED by TRUE CONSERVATIVE and runs off crying. There I fixed the headline
Said the liberal progressive
@Marlon Davis what is that
@@clandestinekits
You say those words as if I should care about labels or feel insulted. Sorry to say I couldn't care any less.
"Shapiro is an autistic midget with an inferiority complex, who hides behind big words and (barely) succeeds in arguments with unprepared college kids, but gets ANNIHILATED by a geezer." Is this one more to your liking?
Andrew Neil isn’t conservative
Andrew Neil is the epitome of Conservative.
Excuses excuses shapiro got owned.
I wonder if Ben talks to his doctor wife like that when he gets home at the end of his day at work. HeyhoneyI'mhomewhatsfordinner.
Andrew Neil is like that with people in the room. Lol
Sung-Ru he’s a conservative, isn’t he?
@@remenir97 Yea, he's conservative and pro-Brexit I believe.
@Mark n Your right, I looked up his Brexit stance and couldn't find an opinion either way. I just remember somebody referring to him as pro-Brexit in an article I read, but I couldn't find anything on it myself. My bad on that one.
@Mark n I think he probably wants to maintain the idea of impartiality since he has to grill both sides on a weekly basis; it would somewhat break the illusion if we knew his stance, I suppose. I'm not a fan of the BBC myself but I definitely think he's one of the best interviewers in the country.
Sung-Ru Exactly
Ben Shapiro be like, "Can you believe how easily the left gets offended when getting challenged! They run away from facts and refuse to have a dialogue! *A MOMENT LATER* How dare a conservative reporter ask me tough questions! I demand a safe space from these microaggressions!"
ben shapiro thinks he's a good debater because he only debates inexperienced college students who never held a mic. Debate a real left wing progressive like kyle kulinski and he would get crushed. Even his debate with Cenk was filled with logical fallacies
That's right wing snowflakes for ya,they throw a tantrum when pulled up on something _they've_ said
hypocrisy don't care about your feelings.
@ username checks out
Isa then what does that say about our current education system in the u.s., when you have a bunch of clueless college students on campus... This is why we are 46th place in the world in education.
Ben Shapiro spitting his dummy out and crying about how famous he is was the funniest thing I've seen on the internet for a while. It's a bit different trying to spout nonsense when talking with an intelligent, calm & emotionally unattached adult rather than teenagers on a college campus.
The first time I saw someone get interviewed and lose XD
Ben "I'm scared of the BBC" Shapiro.
Charles Maiello 😂
It's hilarious bc even if u COMPLETELY misinterpreted your comment, it would still be 100% true:
Ben Shapiro is anti-gay. So yes. He would be "scared" of the Big Black Cock.
@@bianFU_XIA While secretly having fevered dreams about it every night.
@@bianFU_XIA how is he anti gay? Cuz he's a jew? Im not arguing i just genuinely dont knkw
Harvey Mc Nuggets Due to his religion he won’t go to gay marriages, gay after parties, or semi religious events but he has said he is fine with having dinner with a gay person, or having a business meeting with them.
Not gonna lie, I kinda loved watching Ben get lit up
Michael Tee you’ve never seen a less capable debater?
Savor the flavor. Not going to happen often. I don't even count this one since he was ambushed.
@@loualbino5536 ambushed lol wtf
Ben looks really good debating liberal arts undergrad students. When he comes up against someone with intelligence and experience he falls apart. Like with Sam Harris.
@@loualbino5536 he is actually a terrible debater. His main move is gish gallop. Completely disingenuous tactic. He doesn't want an exchange, but to make the other side look foolish trying to deal with him being a little prick. In an actual debate, with a moderator and specific topics, he loses because his ideas are actually nonsense.
Dang. That old British dude cleaned the floor with Ben. It’s pretty hilarious 😂
Andrew Neil clearly outclassed him, so he ran away.
Here comes Joe Rogan to save his IDW boy.
@@AspectROish At least spell it right, idiot.
Idw?
Ben simply showed you who he really is under pressure.
Ben Shapiro absolutely made his own bed with this one. If you’re gonna make a career out of making Ted Cruz’s talking points sound intellectual, you better be prepared to defend yourself. The typical dishonest debate tactics (false dilemma’s, motte bailey’s, straw man’s, gish gallop’s, etc.) work with inexperienced college kids, but not with a guy who actually knows what you’re trying to do. If you have bad ideas, it doesn’t matter how fast you talk. Eventually people are gonna figure you out and expose your ass. It happened to Milo Yiannopoulos, it happened to Dave Rubin, and now it’s happening to Ben Shapiro. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out, clown
Piers morgan doesnt even count as a human being, let alone anything else. You can ignore literally anything that comes out of his mouth, even if he was trying to warn you of a fire behind you and you would still come off as the smart one
There was nothing wrong with the format here. The British dude just asked him questions and gave him ample time to respond. Ben is used to being in his conservative safe spaces and not being challenged at all.
If I asked you about the evil shit you did 10 years ago, and use that to smear your image, what can you say? Am sure you'd conclude it's a waste of time and walk off.
@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 the problem is, Ben has been known to not change his mind on a lot of those things. His own book contradicts him and his actions. Gee it's almost like your actions will have consequences if you dont address them.
@@irtazaazam2573
He apologized for some of the tweets. The journo could have asked him his current views, but he automatically assumed Ben's old tweet is still held today.
@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 and? The interviewer brought up facts as to what Ben said and gave Ben a platform to apologize and let people know Ben has changed opinions. It really isnt that hard to say the fact that "I think differently now" or "I was wrong", but Ben had to get his feelings hurt and walk away and insult the interviewer. Either Ben still believes in those things or he lets his feelings dictate the conversation instead of facts.
@@irtazaazam2573
So the whole interview was just an apology tour and not an interview about present matters? The
journo angered Ben by using his old tweets and say, "This old tweet violates your religious codes." I mean, is the interviewer looking for perfectionism. That to me shows how ridiculous his questionings are.
Joe “I like Ben Shapiro” Rogan
Groundhog X Joe "I got a bald head" Rogan
Joe "I'm a nice guy" Rogan
Joe "(((Intellectual Dark Web)))" Rogan
Joes got a hard on for his “fellow IDW”
Seriously, it's like Biden saying Cheney is a decent man and that he likes him. Except Rogan is great at what he does and Ben has probably killed a few million less people than Cheney.
In a Brit. Andrew Neil is a much older, very very experienced, intellectual heavyweight who has never been intimidated by interviewees.
That (Neil - Shapiro) was the first time I watched someone lose an interview.
What is Joe on about? The time was short because Shapiro sodded off.
Joe's too stoned to use his brain properly. Its part of his appeal.
Joe's biased obviously
Joe needs to lay of the weed because it is obviously effecting his brain cells
he's trying to defend his pint sized little pal, manlet solidarity can't be broken.
Yeah, it was a good, what, 12 minute interview? Ended by Shapiro. On CNN you get 3 minutes if you're lucky. It's amazing thata 24 hour rolling news has created the shortest interviews. Why are 24 hour corporate news channels always cutting things short because they're out of time?
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Ben Shapiro with BEN SHAPIRO
Andrew Neil uses that approach with everyone. Right or left. Ben, who I usually like, handled Neil worse than anyone I’ve ever seen. Nothing wrong with that format. He asked him clear questions, and Ben couldn’t handle it at all.
Ben was totally outclassed by a good journalist who had done his homework! Ben thinks talking fast is being smart. This is what happens when someone is dogmatic and mistakes and views everything and everyone either as liberal or conservative.
The problem with Ben is that he thinks everything is a debate.
Joe "I think he's smart enough to do DMT" Rogan
in a sea of toxicity, clever and witty
i listened to joe rogan now i'm addicted to DMT
Had a good chuckle at that bro, nice!
Honestly I think the guys smoked so much weed he can't think straight anymore
Shapiro didn't "get got" as in tricked/blindsided. He was systematically dissected.
I love how everyone here is finally happy Ben Shapiro messed up on an interview by someone intentionally trying to make him look evil and bringing up old tweets. He messes up one time and everyone freaks out thinking Ben is stupid.
EXACTLY!
No, no, BS didn't "mess up". That's who he is. He's not a good debater. He's not intelligent. He just has a strategy to win debates with 19 year old kids. In that interview he showed who he actually is. Emotional. Weak. Pathetic. Petty.
@@johnc3525 Gish galloping anxious college freshmen is all he’s ever been decent at. Failed screenwriter turned right wing pundit. It’s funny how many of these guys failed in Hollywood and now take out all their anger on lame liberal celebrities
Joe "I secretly lean right" Rogan
Alex was right about you
And then he seems like he leans left in other videos. He just agrees with everything
Depends on who’s on the show it seems
Ben "Israel first" Shapiro
Ben Shapiro goes after Row v wade and a bunch of other laws that hurt America. Yup Ben Shapiro is definitely Israel first.
Fonso_Arc ....and let’s not forgot the numerous times he’s talked about living in the greatest nation ever. @Michael there’s more substance to the man then you suggest. Also what’s wrong about caring for a state that represents your religion more than anywhere else in the world?
Leonardo Hernandez Jimmy Dean Jimbo that’s fine, a lot of hate in there, but your opinion.
I think my point was along the lines that Israel represents Ben’s religion, so why would he not show support for it.
And as an outsider looking in, it would seem that tiny little Israel (in relation to its neighbors) is surrounded but countries that either won’t recognise its existence or have expressed interest in wiping them off the map. I’m sure Ben has had relatives that did not make it past 1945 and this is something that’s always in the forefront of his mind when it comes to anti-semetism.
If you’ve ever listened to his 2nd amendment arguments, he uses his Jewish history to point out that they might have been able to at least put up a fight against the Nazi’s had been able to arm themselves. Anyway, that’s digressing. Even though I don’t agree, thx for your opinion.
Delete this anti semetic remark!!
Israhell
"If you're silencing, it's a very slippery slope" interesting how well that pertains to today
I watched the interview and the host did not seem rude to me. I think what was evident from Ben's behavior is that he is more concerned with someone's popularity then there ability to engage in an intelligent conversation. I have some news for Ben, there are over 7 billion people on this planet so the world is a whole lot larger than his RUclips following and if you want to present your ideas outside of your little fanboy group get used to the idea of engaging with others. You know the whole idea of public debate and what not.