@@ShadowWasntHere8433 Except in this context the Najeela decks have access to a handful of effects that provide the Derevi upside and only access to one Najeela effect
@@mosselliadelt Sure, no deck is the be-all end-all, but Najeela can be 5 color good stuff that does everything broken that other commanders do, such as turbo Naus, all of the Dockside and Breach lines, and then on top of that is a singular threat out of the command zone AND pseudo mana sink for infinite mana. It's busted but for sure beatable
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I just wanna say I love your channel so much. Y'all are a huge inspiration for my deck builds, and are a great way to discover more mechanics about my hobby. I always watch everything y'all release. Due to being an avid fan for a long time now, along with being urged along by one of my buddies who works at a card shop, I built what I consider my first higher powered deck. I don't I think it's cedh, idk how one could make it cedh not gonna lie. But I'm extremely excited to play with my new Tergrid deck I built, when it arrives in two weeks. Thank you for the inspiration behind this, and all the entertainment and guidance over the years. Please keep doing what you're doing :)
a CEDH player (hell, even a casual player) should know that under no circumstances should you allow someone to untap with najeela, it's frankly baffling that Folger pointed his only removal at a mana dork with her staring from across the table smfh
I'd argue holding removal for a turn to target Najeela isn't a strictly better line tbh, targeting the priest of titania prevented Gitrog from coming down a turn earlier.
Folger really doesn't play yisan well anyway. You should just be parasitic and t2 yisan with cradle. Trinisphere makes no sense in this sort of table and elf isnt problem card anyways.
Yeah, and the controller of opposition agent took it away. It makes sense to fetch in order to shuffle your deck so that Elsha could play something top deck
Najeela is just too powerful seeing all decks trying to stop her but fail makes me think she's on a whole different level... loved that interaction trying to stop Gitrog from wining the game. ggs
Creature based combos are a lot harder to deal with in cEDH because most decks are centered around instant speed interaction that doesn't beat a swarm of 1/1s. Najeela is weaker into prison/stax effects, especially the black ones, since they have better ways of doing so. Both Kaervak the Spiteful and Night of Souls Betrayal hard counter the strategy but building a deck that can support that is difficult because of how slow those effects are at 4 cmc.
@@zehk7963 totally agree Najeela doesn't even struggle against rol effects (the most played stax effects atm) because of her wincons and like you said Night of Soul's Betrayal and Kaervek give her a rough time but those are cards that hardly ever see play in cEDH (if ever) so yeah... Najeela is pretty hard to stop (considering she also runs the Thoracle package)
@@cristianprado8559 Yeah. My personal Mikeaus brew runs that because it's designed to prey on popular commanders and grind the game to a halt, but I fully understand it's primarily works because I know how to pilot the deck in my meta and have tuned it as such. Nothing better than enabling walking ballista lines at the same time you disable Razaketh lines.
Not sure if it was just me, but music was a little loud this time. Also was kinda thrown off when we didn't get a K.O.!!! after the first game. Anyways, amazing job as always ! Keep it up
Sadly, combat sucks outside of those two cards pretty much (ig tymna too idk), but could be a devastatingly good meta call in the right situation Maybe naus decks should run a fog or two?
Who was it that had those fancy tokens for Najeela? They were actually soldiers technically, but metal and half the width of normal tokens. I still have the link for those on my bookmarks.
They really should've added "activate only once per turn" to Najeela's active, would make it a much more balanced commander. They usually do this for similar cards - my conspiracy theory is that the only reason they didn't is because the textbox was already full.
@@shadowflare12341 I have, but they clearly just didn't give much thought to efficient wording and nicely formatted text back then. Ice Cauldron is even worse.
"and only once per turn" it would've fit. They've admitted to making powerful commanders to push product. That's why she doesn't have it. Plain and simple
This hasn’t been a really big thing until recently I feel. I’m sure there are examples, but I feel like I’ve seen more and more “once per turn” than usual lately.
We love proxies, and encourage the use of them! This game, and especially our format, can be very very expensive. Especially when you change decks all the time like we do.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG awsome! I was never sure and it was something thats been swimming around in my head for awhile. I love trying decks out on cockatrice but to me it dosent have the same feel as trying decks irl or via spelltable. Plus i only have like two high power cards i see you guys use in multiple episodes because i got lucky and pulled them
@@WhiteWizard42 I think I would have always kept the Arbor elf for those very few games where you drew the wild growth or sprawl. Guess it makes sense, especially when you try to go of with yisan. Thx for the reply
Holy frick tho najeela is busted However I'm still chill with her, nice to see aggro win occasionally lol, I'd rather see her than Kenrith or some other 5c good stuff
Why? They all play basically the same way. Get infinite mana, sink infinite mana into your commander who is a win con on their own. I guess at least Kenrith costs 5 instead of 3.
So, I just looked it up, and could Selvala's Enforcer be a viable yisan card to counter Consult? "When X enters, Each player reveals the top card of their library. For each nonland put a +1 counter on X. then each player draws a card" At 4 cmc it seems almost good enough? It could always be too slow but it might work?
i doubt it, its a bad card in every other situation, you need to already have 3 counters (which is usually quite close to a yisan win as well) and yisan needs to be untapped and able to search for this to even have a chance to work, sorry.
It was replaced by better commanders over time. If you play Prossh, there is no reason you wouldn't just play Korvold. If you play Food Chain, there is no reason you wouldn't just play the First Sliver. Such is the nature of the beast.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I dont know. Korvold needs three peices of food chain to win. But Prossh has multiple combos with phyrexian and ashnod's alters. As well as parallel lives, cyprolith rites, and haste. in my experience it makes him hard to stop. Now I will concede that I dont actuallu play against super top tier decks. But there is plenty of good interaction in my group and even still Prossh tends to be hard to stop unless ganged up on.
I rly wish najeela wasn't a thing. It's like they wanted to make a cool commander and just threw all caution to the wind creating an over powered mess.
Lignifying the priest instead of waiting for the najeela was just dumb. Almost as dumb as tapping out for kykar when you are the only other player playing blue. Horrible game 1
I bet Folger using lignify on priest of titania is the most infuriating play that first game.😂😂 Also, Najeela just isn't fun to watch play anymore. Najeela decks tend to win every game.☹️
You have lands capable of creating WUBRG. You attack with Najeela & 3 Warriors + Derevi. Derevi triggers as the warriors ETB, and you untap your lands for WUBRG. You activate Najeela's ability, giving you another combat. You swing, she creates more warriors, Derevi's untap triggers on ETB for each warrior + Najeela, tap lands for WUBRG again, and repeat. Infinite Warrior tokens, infinite ETBs, infinite combat steps.
I hate when people say that gitrog is complicated or "has a really convoluted combo" it is super simple you get Dakmor and a discard outlet and you loop your library that is not a complicated concept it's just hard to know when you should go ofg
The Gitrog player here seems to misplay the first game by not saccing the Polluted Delta turn 4 to dig and possible draw another fetchland to use his second landdrop. In a recent Playing With Power game (ruclips.net/video/B2EGuv3GjeM/видео.html) the Gitrog player lost because they misplayed. The fact that Gitrog can continue after a resolved Silence is a concept that's not obvious to most magic players. Explaining how you win deterministicly is something that needs to be learned especially when Dakmor is exiled. Knowing what you can exile with Tainted Pact is nontrivial. Knowing how to play through Stax pieces like Hullbreacher is complicated.
How did Zack crack his piloted delta to get a land when opp agent was on the field. Wow najeela won imagine that, someone wasting removal on a dork instead of najeela and second game letting najeela draw all those cards smh? What am I watching here?
Iignifying priest.... wow. That kind of threat assessment and "king-making" by using removal without a win in sight is what hands other players the win. Just had a big talk with my commander group about this kind of loose play
He could, and he did. Mike fetched up the land though. It says in the narration that Mike did that. He was doing it to see a different card on top of his library.
I've never thought a card shouldn't exist as much as Najeela. Games with her aren't remotely enjoyable to watch. I just find myself wishing the other players would simultaneously scoop and play a new game without the Najeela player
Please, for the love of all that is not sacred, stop saying "INFINITE". Infinite ends the game in a draw or is nigh unachievable. It is as bad as saying literally all the time or calling something ironic when it isn't ironic. I come to watch some fun Magic and of course it isn't always perfect but the one thing that should be addressed it the fallacy of "INFINITE". Fun games though.
Imagine coming to watch a game and being so upset at a word in the narration, that you take the time to write out a comment like this. You need infinite help.
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Loved the interaction on Gitrog's turn for everyone to stop the win, and position themselves to get every advantage possible.
Each game played with a najeela makes me think that the card was a mistake lmao
Derevi is the real mistake
Derevi and Najeela were both mistakes.
@@ShadowWasntHere8433 Except in this context the Najeela decks have access to a handful of effects that provide the Derevi upside and only access to one Najeela effect
Its honestly not that bad if you play stax at all. I run tainted aether in one of my stax decks just for Najeela who is heavy in the meta
@@mosselliadelt Sure, no deck is the be-all end-all, but Najeela can be 5 color good stuff that does everything broken that other commanders do, such as turbo Naus, all of the Dockside and Breach lines, and then on top of that is a singular threat out of the command zone AND pseudo mana sink for infinite mana. It's busted but for sure beatable
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Very cool to see my Kykar build on the channel again! Thanks for including it!
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I just wanna say I love your channel so much. Y'all are a huge inspiration for my deck builds, and are a great way to discover more mechanics about my hobby. I always watch everything y'all release.
Due to being an avid fan for a long time now, along with being urged along by one of my buddies who works at a card shop, I built what I consider my first higher powered deck. I don't I think it's cedh, idk how one could make it cedh not gonna lie. But I'm extremely excited to play with my new Tergrid deck I built, when it arrives in two weeks. Thank you for the inspiration behind this, and all the entertainment and guidance over the years. Please keep doing what you're doing :)
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Mike is absolutely killing it lately on the channel!
Lately? Always....
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG true!
When mike flashed in that opp agent after folger casted crop rotation was the highlight of these games lol
That Gitrog mat is dope!
Nowadays I don’t get to play all that much, so thank you guys for the awesome content. ✌️
a CEDH player (hell, even a casual player) should know that under no circumstances should you allow someone to untap with najeela, it's frankly baffling that Folger pointed his only removal at a mana dork with her staring from across the table smfh
I'd argue holding removal for a turn to target Najeela isn't a strictly better line tbh, targeting the priest of titania prevented Gitrog from coming down a turn earlier.
Folger really doesn't play yisan well anyway. You should just be parasitic and t2 yisan with cradle. Trinisphere makes no sense in this sort of table and elf isnt problem card anyways.
ribbit ribbit ribbit. Where did you get that stained glass frog playmat, i need it for when i play the frog
Wow. Two of my first commanders.
Btw, I think, in current meta, Yisan should mull for turn1 commander or till 5 cards.
Either that or Yisan needs thost stax pieces like Trinisphere on board before running Yisan out.
More Gitrog games please!
Also you guys inspired me to build a Tymna//Thrasios deck of my own. So yeah thanks again!
That's basically all they use anymore. Be more unique
@@giantgrowth4204 no need to troll
Would love to see some more Korvold in future episodes!
Man everytime I play Najeela in my group, she gets focused so hard! Haha! Ggs! Very nice editing!
At minute 13:00, Zack fetched with an opposition agent on the battlefield. Great game, loved the pressure from Najeela.
They stated mike got thr land
Yeah, and the controller of opposition agent took it away. It makes sense to fetch in order to shuffle your deck so that Elsha could play something top deck
I love all the content. I'd like to see another random commander competitive build around again
Najeela is just too powerful
seeing all decks trying to stop her but fail makes me think she's on a whole different level... loved that interaction trying to stop Gitrog from wining the game.
ggs
Creature based combos are a lot harder to deal with in cEDH because most decks are centered around instant speed interaction that doesn't beat a swarm of 1/1s. Najeela is weaker into prison/stax effects, especially the black ones, since they have better ways of doing so. Both Kaervak the Spiteful and Night of Souls Betrayal hard counter the strategy but building a deck that can support that is difficult because of how slow those effects are at 4 cmc.
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@@zehk7963 totally agree
Najeela doesn't even struggle against rol effects (the most played stax effects atm) because of her wincons and like you said Night of Soul's Betrayal and Kaervek give her a rough time but those are cards that hardly ever see play in cEDH (if ever) so yeah... Najeela is pretty hard to stop (considering she also runs the Thoracle package)
@@cristianprado8559 Yeah. My personal Mikeaus brew runs that because it's designed to prey on popular commanders and grind the game to a halt, but I fully understand it's primarily works because I know how to pilot the deck in my meta and have tuned it as such. Nothing better than enabling walking ballista lines at the same time you disable Razaketh lines.
im a simple man, i see the frog i click the frog
They were on frog like white on rice and was like najeela who? lol
Huh. Games that didn't end with Thoracle. I'll take em.
I guess everyone was too busy answering the frog until it was too late...
Not sure if it was just me, but music was a little loud this time. Also was kinda thrown off when we didn't get a K.O.!!! after the first game. Anyways, amazing job as always ! Keep it up
Loving your content!
Would love to take part of something like this with my Emry... Sadly far from a budget to upgrade her to cedh.
Fun video either way!
Just print the cards you're missing.
Also, there are great resources for budget cEDH decks!
@@crazygermn Tbh not even certain what i'd need. Don't see anyone picking Emry for it.
Nice vid n i love kykar in cedh, thx
When we gonna start running fog effects for a najeela deck or a craterhoof win?
Sadly, combat sucks outside of those two cards pretty much (ig tymna too idk), but could be a devastatingly good meta call in the right situation
Maybe naus decks should run a fog or two?
@@johnbaird6752 just run constant mists
please give us a youtube short of the bird noises
At 13:24; Zack couldn't have cracked his polluted delta, right? There was an opposition agent on the battlefield
He could, it's just it went into exile
Who was it that had those fancy tokens for Najeela? They were actually soldiers technically, but metal and half the width of normal tokens. I still have the link for those on my bookmarks.
You can look at a players hand if you have an opposition agent and they search their library?
And also face down cards they have like foretell, morph, etc
Im still new but I thought you can't play cards outside your commanders color pool so how was Mike playing najeela able to cast derevi
Najeela's color identity is all 5 colors as her ability has WUBRG. She may only cost red to cast, but she is all 5 colors.
@@Rekecko14 ah I see. Thank you
PWP put a video in the stack. Resolves.
They really should've added "activate only once per turn" to Najeela's active, would make it a much more balanced commander. They usually do this for similar cards - my conspiracy theory is that the only reason they didn't is because the textbox was already full.
have you seen Chains of Mephistopheles
@@shadowflare12341 I have, but they clearly just didn't give much thought to efficient wording and nicely formatted text back then. Ice Cauldron is even worse.
"and only once per turn" it would've fit. They've admitted to making powerful commanders to push product. That's why she doesn't have it. Plain and simple
This hasn’t been a really big thing until recently I feel. I’m sure there are examples, but I feel like I’ve seen more and more “once per turn” than usual lately.
Warriors need some much needed love
This was an amazing game. Question though, do the guys at playing with power use/condone the use of proxies?
We love proxies, and encourage the use of them! This game, and especially our format, can be very very expensive. Especially when you change decks all the time like we do.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG awsome! I was never sure and it was something thats been swimming around in my head for awhile. I love trying decks out on cockatrice but to me it dosent have the same feel as trying decks irl or via spelltable. Plus i only have like two high power cards i see you guys use in multiple episodes because i got lucky and pulled them
Yep, Najeela is a powerhouse
Noah is definitely pwp change my mind
What card used on thumbnail?
Noose constrictor
I would say the most valuable card is derevi.
Is there any reason the Yisan player mulligans away the arbor elf over the elvish mystic that I am missing ?
Arbor Elf can be responded to, which is sometimes awkward.
@@WhiteWizard42 I think I would have always kept the Arbor elf for those very few games where you drew the wild growth or sprawl. Guess it makes sense, especially when you try to go of with yisan. Thx for the reply
Amazing game boys
Where can i find a discord link
Sign up to Patreon. It will then give you access to the Discord.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG so i have to be a patreon to join the tournament?
@@marcusvalbjrn2738 Yes.
ALL HAIL THE QUEEN!
Holy frick tho najeela is busted
However I'm still chill with her, nice to see aggro win occasionally lol, I'd rather see her than Kenrith or some other 5c good stuff
Why? They all play basically the same way. Get infinite mana, sink infinite mana into your commander who is a win con on their own. I guess at least Kenrith costs 5 instead of 3.
I mean, is it really aggro?
The deck is aggro based but I would consider those wins by combo.
So, I just looked it up, and could Selvala's Enforcer be a viable yisan card to counter Consult? "When X enters, Each player reveals the top card of their library. For each nonland put a +1 counter on X. then each player draws a card" At 4 cmc it seems almost good enough? It could always be too slow but it might work?
i doubt it, its a bad card in every other situation, you need to already have 3 counters (which is usually quite close to a yisan win as well) and yisan needs to be untapped and able to search for this to even have a chance to work, sorry.
@@nellesdeconinck8443 Yisan is the deck for silver bullets. Any counter to the best combo in the format is a good one I think.
@@apock2474 timing is just so strict and leaving Yisan at that many verse counters is practically telegraphing a counter
Interesting and creative idea, might not be viable, but man that would be a hilarious way to stop a win attempt with style
@@johnbaird6752 pretty sure Yisan as a whole is boarder line non-viable in the current format, but I love the deck so much.
Taiga Uppercut !
Zack: uses playmat saying “Don’t Feed the Fish!”
Also Zack: plays Fish’s bigger, smarter cousin in the early turns of the game
O.o
This video shows why Najeela was first picked in the MLC
Derevi is the winner piece and the real hidden Hero.
buenísimos los decks
Why isnt Prossh skyraider of ker keep ever played?
It was replaced by better commanders over time. If you play Prossh, there is no reason you wouldn't just play Korvold. If you play Food Chain, there is no reason you wouldn't just play the First Sliver. Such is the nature of the beast.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I dont know. Korvold needs three peices of food chain to win. But Prossh has multiple combos with phyrexian and ashnod's alters. As well as parallel lives, cyprolith rites, and haste. in my experience it makes him hard to stop. Now I will concede that I dont actuallu play against super top tier decks. But there is plenty of good interaction in my group and even still Prossh tends to be hard to stop unless ganged up on.
Prossh can be scary but imo Korvold is better (probably first sliver and/or ukkima+cazur as well for food chain decks)
Is it legal to look at your opponents hand while searching their deck with Op Agent?
Yes. By controlling them during the search you can see their hand and can look at face down cards they can look at.
@@zehk7963 nice!
Yes. Since you control them while searching. Makes it even more sweet.
what is wierd is that this najeela deck is strong in cedh but would suck in mid power where there is a lot more creature interaction and desruction.
Gitrog studying today.
How long it took to get that cradle out.. Lol.
I rly wish najeela wasn't a thing. It's like they wanted to make a cool commander and just threw all caution to the wind creating an over powered mess.
I had never seen najeela played before... That was... something. Who designed this card lmao
I can't tell if Noah's playmat is Krenko or Etrigan.
@Noah Saldaña That's awesome, I see it now. Now that's commitment to what you like!
@Noah Saldaña Really only $20? That really was a steal, it is a beautiful piece.
Don't feed the fish. But what about the frog?
every time najeela wins a game my eyes roll so far into the back of my head they get stuck
God bless amen
*laughs in infinite combats"
Should probably get that checked out then.
I'm probably in the minority, but I freakin love Najeela
She is one of the stronger decks in the format I don’t see how you’d be in the minority..
Lignifying the priest instead of waiting for the najeela was just dumb. Almost as dumb as tapping out for kykar when you are the only other player playing blue.
Horrible game 1
K.O.
Najeela❤
I bet Folger using lignify on priest of titania is the most infuriating play that first game.😂😂
Also, Najeela just isn't fun to watch play anymore. Najeela decks tend to win every game.☹️
It’s just like thassas oracle, yeah it’s really boring, but they have to use it if they want to be playing the best decks they can
He attacks his opponents with infinite combats and warriors? What?
You have lands capable of creating WUBRG. You attack with Najeela & 3 Warriors + Derevi. Derevi triggers as the warriors ETB, and you untap your lands for WUBRG. You activate Najeela's ability, giving you another combat. You swing, she creates more warriors, Derevi's untap triggers on ETB for each warrior + Najeela, tap lands for WUBRG again, and repeat. Infinite Warrior tokens, infinite ETBs, infinite combat steps.
HAAAATE Najeela, absolute faceplant card design.
I hate when people say that gitrog is complicated or "has a really convoluted combo" it is super simple you get Dakmor and a discard outlet and you loop your library that is not a complicated concept it's just hard to know when you should go ofg
The Gitrog player here seems to misplay the first game by not saccing the Polluted Delta turn 4 to dig and possible draw another fetchland to use his second landdrop.
In a recent Playing With Power game (ruclips.net/video/B2EGuv3GjeM/видео.html) the Gitrog player lost because they misplayed. The fact that Gitrog can continue after a resolved Silence is a concept that's not obvious to most magic players. Explaining how you win deterministicly is something that needs to be learned especially when Dakmor is exiled. Knowing what you can exile with Tainted Pact is nontrivial. Knowing how to play through Stax pieces like Hullbreacher is complicated.
How did Zack crack his piloted delta to get a land when opp agent was on the field. Wow najeela won imagine that, someone wasting removal on a dork instead of najeela and second game letting najeela draw all those cards smh? What am I watching here?
Iignifying priest.... wow. That kind of threat assessment and "king-making" by using removal without a win in sight is what hands other players the win. Just had a big talk with my commander group about this kind of loose play
Najeela OP?
Najeela is too broken
LAST TIME I WAS SO EARLY, BLACK LOTUS WAS 1$
The Gitrog Monster isnt an Unique Combo Deck anymore, more standard basic Combo Cards
Hahaha the amount of money spend making this deck
cedh players usually proxy most of the cards (my decklists are over $10,000 each but only cost me about $100 to build with high quality proxies)
I just hate "You can't play Magic anymore" decks. Takes the joy out of playing the game. =/
Great game but Zack Couldn’t Sac his fetch land in the second game bc Opposition Agent was on the field!
He could, and he did. Mike fetched up the land though. It says in the narration that Mike did that. He was doing it to see a different card on top of his library.
I've never thought a card shouldn't exist as much as Najeela. Games with her aren't remotely enjoyable to watch. I just find myself wishing the other players would simultaneously scoop and play a new game without the Najeela player
Do people really enjoy watching the same matches every time? 3/4 of them start with a hand full of rocks every game lol
Please, for the love of all that is not sacred, stop saying "INFINITE". Infinite ends the game in a draw or is nigh unachievable. It is as bad as saying literally all the time or calling something ironic when it isn't ironic. I come to watch some fun Magic and of course it isn't always perfect but the one thing that should be addressed it the fallacy of "INFINITE". Fun games though.
Imagine coming to watch a game and being so upset at a word in the narration, that you take the time to write out a comment like this. You need infinite help.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG lmaoooooooooooooo
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Literally
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG sick burn.... OP's point stands though
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG you should keep saying infinite to spite the semanticists