St Vincent interview on sexuality, gender and disrupting the system
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- She's been compared to the likes of Kate Bush and David Bowie and in 2015 was the first female artist to win a Grammy award for Best Alternative Music album in 24 years.
Annie Clark, who's better known by her stage name St Vincent - is the current darling of art rock, revered by fans for her consummate guitar-playing and distinct musical style.
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Random compliment but she’s so good at communication. Talking, singing, whatever. She has clear understandable metaphors and humor that keeps her from ever coming across cocky despite the fact that she’s talking about how talented she is.
Very true! She doesn't need to be humble but she is!
just libra things haha
yeah
Her “music” sounds awful and thats coming from someone who loves very unusual music.
my biggest dream is to have a conversation with her, it doesnt matter about what, or how long, i just want to hear her thoughts tbh
She was doing instagram livestreams where she just talked to random fans! Not sure if she's still doing it but that might be your chance
If your biggest dream is to have a conversion with a Fucking Lunatic....
You may want to take a Revaluation of your life
@@dannymorgan1052 get a life instead of insulting someone constantly on comments. pick up a hobby or something
**Bold contrived comment** Biggest dream? Don't sell yourself short. But I guess hperbole 😜 you know?
That's your biggest dream, wow
People in this comments section need to learn to disagree amicably. If you can't hear the words "gender" "construct" or "fluid" without throwing a tantrum, I contend that you are the problem. Not to mention, you'll unfairly disregard one of the best artists working today.
leftism is cancer.
they can't hear the facts of '2 genders' without trying to get the truth-teller fired.
Richard McEllan my comment was about learning to disagree amicably and you thought it would be a good idea to open with “leftism is cancer?”
You either have a keen sense of irony or a total lack of self awareness
? lelftism IS cancer.
by every definition.
science denying, equality of outcome, cultural marxist, eugh.
by 'disagree amicably', you clearly just mean 'agree with me'.
No, I most certainly do not mean to say that you must agree with me; to be perfectly frank, I think Ms. Clark is wrong here about gender being fluid. The difference is that I a) don't let her answer to a question like that interfere with my enjoyment of her music and b) don't compare differences of belief to deadly diseases in need of eradication.
haha that's because most kids are smart enough to understand this and reject it like kids.
Ive followed Annie since her days in the polyphonic spree, Uber talented and an effortless guitarist, a true innovator. Total individual, unafraid of anything or anyone, but without the sanctimony 👍 a superstar and decent human being 🙂
Wow! I didn’t realise she was in TPS. Yep, totally agree with your assessment. She is a singular talent, for sure.
Im always impressed with how fierce she is on stage. she can be standing still and her eyes are straight on in power stance
effortless guitarist is not the same as guitarist with any effort 🙄
@@viarnay where did I say without any effort? Pointless comment.
@@hughgrection5674 I know but what I say is she's not a good guitar player
0:40 Oh no it’s the interviewer that Made Robert Downy Jr. Walk
Marcus Little Music Channel haha he Made marina and the diamonds cry too e
He's a good interviewer he just needs to work on his damn empathy.
He pissed off Quentin Tarantino as well. His tactic is to insult his guests into saying anything that will make a headline, then he sells the interview to the highest bidder. He performed a real hatchet job on Michael Jackson as well - this interviewer is trash . Luckily for us, Annie Clark makes even trash beautiful.
gregory hoover no his tactic is not to insult his guests it's actually to ask really heavy questions it's just too bad he's really bad at discerning them to be appropriate as opposed to insults
@@YWFilmProductions I don't know if you're serious or just one of those guys who just like to pick arguments with people in the Internet, but I think you need to look further into this interviewer. Quintin exposed him for what he does right in the middle of an interview. He was trying to goad Tarentino into a defense of violence in his films with the who ole "what do you say to people who suggest your films promote violence actions from their viewer? question. We've all heard the question asked and answered by Tarentino 1000 times so the guy was just trying to get a reaction of of him that would be of commercial value to the interviewer. Here, I'll let Tarantino explain it in his own words ruclips.net/video/GrsJDy8VjZk/видео.html
Take note that when the interviewer's tactivc backfired, he came back with an even more insulting quest6ion and asked if the director is getter better or worse as a director based upon his aging. Come on! That's not insulting while interviewing a director at the primier of his new movie?
I watched her with David Byrne and was pretty impressed. Then I looked at her stuff where she is the focus and man she's a dynamo!!
All these haters! She's talking about disrupting the system by having personal power and agency as a woman in music - I don't know if you all have ever been in bands with woman in music, but it is a hard road, and even some of the most successful women in music still don't have personal agency creatively. It is a greater victory in some ways to have agency as a women in music than to be famous. Within the context of the music industry, she is disrupting a very gendered system - instead of playing acoustic guitar, singing love songs, and looking pretty, as women are expected to do, she rips a fuzz guitar, often wears smeared makeup and weird bodysuits, and sings about much more nuanced and personal topics. She is saying that an identity based solely upon where one's gender, race, etc. fits in society is inherently false and limiting, which is true. Perhaps ya'll are so mad because you can't face up to your own identity being contrived and externally given instead of internally chosen.
Blablabla gender, society, race, identity....but HER MUSIC SUCK ;D
franco stoppardi No it real good.
Disrupting what system exactly? Women have always been in the music industry...... there's always been strong women who defied being simply being pretty faces or sexy bodies...... think back to Betty Davis (Miles Davis's wife), the slits, sousxie sue, Madaonna, Kate bush...... dig a little deeper and you'll find even more artistically accomplished, uncompromising women who never felt the need to fit stereotypes 'demanded' by men (such as Kathleen hanna)! Her concept of 'power' is utter nonsense and confused sounding, despite being 'eloquently' put! By the way, I'm a fan of her music...... but this was nothing more than a collection of soundbites directed at those people (her fans, the converted) too afraid or too insecure in themselves to do what she's doing..... to make those same people who are buying into her creative vision thus helping make her rich and relevant by buying her music and the message that comes with it......
Thanks for explaining to everyone who can't understand. It seemed futile as I read the comments under your post though.
If people feel the need to discredit the challenges and successes of strong women, modern counterculture, or influential, risk-taking musicians, that says more about them than the thing they're trying to discredit.
I love listening to intelligent people talk, restores my faith in humanity.
Jeff Zahn sooo, this video failed you? Right? Don't kill your self.
Intelligent serious humorous beautiful self appointedly pretentious nerdy arty intense unique musical voice gorgeous singing voice fantastic lyricist does it for me as well all in one tidy package!
Me too!
What video did you watch?
Putting Your Faith in a person such as this one....will Dam your Soul
Re evaluate your life
Have faith in someone called Jesus
Try it....you have nothing lose
Her full title is: "Skinny Legend, Queen of the Gays" thank you very much❗️😤
Juno fucking based!
That’s my title actually
Juno and that’s the gag
SAMTAYLORTV fight us😤😂
I hate days when I have plans to go to a show, and a migraine starts, one that worsens into the evening. Seeing St. Vincent live was one of those days. It was one of the worst/best days of my life.
Absolutely adore her my god she is incredible
So your god is anything that reaffirm political beliefs because she is literally nothing but that. She doesn’t play her instrument well. She said it herself. It’s just be gay or trans and you’re on the right team. And that’s so close minded.
I don't think God has Anything to do with her......If you would like to know who is incredible.....A man called Jesus
He was real
I don't even know what to say. There's so much about everything she says here that feels like an alternate version of myself split off at some point to become her, and say and sing and shred it all for our other alternate selves to get chills and shiver to the tuning fork... It all resonates with me like a giant brass bell in a cavern temple.
Same. Down to the age when she started guitar. 😅
"A well-made guitar makes you sound better than you are" - probably true...but Annie is also one of this generation's best guitar players, Period.
She is amongst the best, let's say, 100.000.
Love St. Vincent. She actually reminds me of Jacques Brel in the way she takes cliches and, by her artistry point of view and techniques (here poppier art punk tradition), she gives it a totally original approach. For example, her acustic version of Savior: what's more easy and predictable than an acoustic piano version of a sexy soft pop song? But she used a prepared piano, and turned it an almost "school music" piece. Not only there: I actually din't get why she was so good, until I saw a video and realised that the "riff" was pretty hard (with a clean guitar, if you're into it...); of course, soloing is kinda Cobain, something I love, even more in the context of danceable synths, but it's the root passage wich gave it's true value to the song, as I'm programmed for solos (also for guitar players...)
She also takes the classic formula of being the contrary of everybody else, untill she IS the exception to all rock guitarrist: from her genre (don't get me wrong, just saying that in guitar rock female people never could be themselves, just a caracter, a fantasy of something greater than any men or anywoman, just as Santa Teresa or Jean d'Arc in a jacket and jeans: more of a character, not the true essential person) wich she analyses by mocking of the stereotypes of woman: from the desesperate housewife, to the insecure mouse obssesed with social media, to the MILF in femme fatale mode, who can't be your savior, nor your mother, but kinda acepts the hard and unconfortable roles, mostly, as alwys do the character, because she is a cliche, and not her true self...not even I understand what is happening: really, it's a trully complex concept art, in wich her creativity comes from the negation of what should be by society, via incarnate as a hard joke those things that she never will totally be (and maybe is, but in a healty proportion, in different to St. Vincent).
Because Anne Clark gives interviews as herself and as her character: when she is herself...she is a common, interesant person, but nothing more. When is st. Vincent, she either looks to the floor and speaks low and slowly, kinda scared, or act all seductive and misterious, depending on what character relies under the empty glass of her paronim (actually I'm not sure of this point because this is the first interview I've seen, but that of a big horse...she actually looked a bit unconfortable sayin that, I kinda doubth of her saying something like that in a common day...and if I'm wrong...I actually don't care, the Idea sounds cool and this is not a science manual and I'm not a conserned thinker...)
Wich in fact also is a symbol of how empty a person obssesed with apparences actually is.
Sorry for my bad english; no apologise hier...nainnainnain....
can't wait for her to do a full on acoutic album. amazing artist and player.
Shes feckin beautiful
Broaden the idea of what human beings get to be. Rock on Annie!
Ivan Etcuban A bit off the wall but I think I can get with the flow of your thinking.
"Broaden the idea of what human beings get to be." Is a VERY Costal Philosophy.
I have already two cocks and three buttholes.
Lettore Entusiasta Is that like an invitation?
coastal* my bad lololololol.
I don't think a well made guitar makes you sound better than you are. It's just that a poorly made guitar won't allow you to sound as good as you are. No matter how good the instrument, you still need to know what you're doing with it to sound good.
Never read the comments.
god they're really cancerous here
What did you say?
I remember stumbling across her music when she started dating Cara Delevingne (they were an adorable couple by the way, unfortunate that they didn't last). She really is a talented artist and seems like a very sweet and inspiring woman. Keep up the good work Annie 👏
Real talented
Can't play the guitar and is a female version of Marilyn Manson
Your a real Noble prize winner
The better guitar player you becomme, the less you have to think of the notes you put in there, you always find a way out and on.
As always a very intelligent, entertaining, and thought provoking conversation.
what a fucking relief to see her drop the character and genuinely smile . knew you were somewhere in there, Annie.
I only recently heard Annie (I should get out more!) and I just love her playing - she reminds me of a jazzy, cooler version of Wilko Johnson but with better, more woke, lyrics. Excellent! 🙂
„About a third of the time I don‘t know what notes gonna come out“ 😂 Just like me! To be honest: half of the time…
I'm not deep into her newer stuff (at least not yet) but I respect her talent a great but a performance of hers at ACL and her second LP hooked me^^
God, what’s up with all the salty dudes in the comments?
probably sick of the one-sided echo chamber cancerous leftist narrative being obsessively pushed by all UK 'news' outlets.
also, there are only 2 genders
She intimidates them.
Richard McEllan Two sexes*
Lots of shitty men out there in the world
lol wut. nothing intimidating about a walking cliche, being coddled by the current status-quo and establishment trends.
just pure cringe and pure cancer.
Hate, bile and pointless vitriol which has no purpose other than stagnation and oppression will not win. I'm here because I love St Vincent, go find something positive to do.
'oppression'
right.
anyway, there are only 2 genders.
st vincent is garbage
What a profound, thoughtful human. We really are changing the world, or at least America, for the much, much better. I'm 65, and trust me, 2023 is a profoundly better time than any year in human history. St. Vincent is strong evidence to support that. Listen to her, and the years that follow will be better still.
a lot of people are saying the system supports her narrative. Which system is that exactly? The one thing you can clock annie on is that she participates in capitalism as we all do living in a capitalist country. When Trump and neo nazi's/ far right politics being normalized and "anti-SJW"/"Anti-PC" sentiments are gaining more popularity, what system exactly supports her narrative?
we do not live in a capitalist society.
what kind of society do we live in?
just because they sell her CD's at target instead of a local record store doesn't give her any actual political power.
Daniel Cabrona the united states is a corporation, with socialist programs.
Yes, the system that's fucking up the world created this narrative for people like her and low IQ's like Annie Clark repeat it to profit from other low IQ's who are so stupid they can't understand her argument lacks all sorts of logic. Smart people unfortunately have to share the world with incredibly dumb people like Annie Clark. Gender isn't fluid by any meanings. I want you to show me a single human that can fluid their chromosomes. There's only 2 genders, female and male, simple as that. People can be heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual. Fluid is nothing but bisexual, which by the way this woman saying she is fluid is a lesbian, not even bisexual. You don't need to be a dumb asshole to understand gender isn't a construct but what is socially acceptable is indeed cultural and that has absolutely NOTHING to do with gender or even sexuality.
From where I'm sitting 'disrupting the system' looks a lot like business as usual.
But that's exactly how this stuff works, take a group of people who have some failing in some way, maybe they're not as rich/pretty/smart as they want to be, then have them blame it all on the "system" in such high numbers that that same system panders to them. Then have them continue to claim oppressed status so any criticism of them can be labelled "hate speech" and silenced. This so called oppression can never end because it doesn't exist and that is how you get exactly what you want in a few easy steps.
Cinical Lawman - Not sure if you realise, but you sound like you could be the hatechild of one of Harvey Weinstein's hotel wanks
The only reason I see that 'sexuality, gender and disrupting the system' is in the subject is simply marketing appealing to social trends, talking points shoehorned in to garner market shares is the same song and dance of the last 60 years, the songs and singers are the only variables here; whether that is to the credit of channel 4 or St V is another topic.
Lee O in the first place its spelled cynical, not sure if this is an attempt to make sure im not notified to reply. In the second, Ive spent a great deal of my not inconsiderable career trying to get justice for the victims of sexual assault who are being let down by this system.
Leaving aside comparing me to a sexual deviant, can you tell me exactly how Im mischaracterising those I am describing?
Joshua Wood Vivian shes almost certainly prettier and richer but I'm doubtful of smarter
"A well made guitar
Makes you sound better
Than you are"
Sounds like a lyric to me.
She reminds me of Prince.
Yes exactly, i was thinking the same.
In what way exactly?
God, she killed it at Coachella.
Good interview, thanks.
I know I'm more conservative than most can comprehend, doesn't keep me from appreciating this girl's art n skill.
I wish I still liked St. Vincent as much as I used to. She's still great.
Кэтрин Голумбовская Agreed. St. Vincent is sort of stuck in a rut where she is creating a certain type of commercial somewhat edgy music over and over. I'd like to hear her take some real risks and do long instrumental things or symphonies or go way noisier or acoustic. I wonder what she would sound like recording with Eno. Might give them both a needed jolt. Still like her. She's running a big risk of boring people like Bowie did from 1982 on. Maybe we expect too much of our geniuses.
Scott Sanders When did she get stuck in the rut do you think?
No specific rut enter point. Still think she's extremely talented. Time for a John Cale collaboration?
Listen to the piano version of Los Ageless.
Катя Голумбовская I really love her first albums, but Masseduction was a little boring to me. seemed kinda like the same songs and ideas over and over again.
I'd go to any one of her concerts in a heartbeat! Such a unique sound and range of musical styles.
She's a fine musician and all, but the gender blather this late in the game is tiresome. She's not doing anything that Joni Mitchell didn't already figure out and accomplish 50 years ago.
A smart person. And a decent one too I think, having seen her Q&A session live online somewhere. She would be nice to know, I'm sure. How come few have heard of her?
Is that the same interviewer that RDJ walked out on?
"Disrupting the system". The system supports your narrative
Daniel Rostock
Yep, if 'the system' she wants to tear down is capitalism, why is she punting guitars at £2200 a pop?
It's clearly not capitalism she's talking about. And I'd imagine she's selling guitars for money because she's designed them and wants to make her money back and have a bit more to spend. We call that earning a living.
Idk if y'all actually watched the interview but she never claims that she herself is disrupting the system, she says that others are. She also never says a word about capitalism
Lee O
This 'system' then: give us a clue? btw it's a signature guitar. She hasn't tooled up a factory.
I would be surprised if she actually set the CNC machines and the spindle-moulders up herself Alf, but yeah, she did design the guitar with the manufacturers specifically for her and other women, and when you get a guitar made by a manufacturer, that usually involves some sort of a cost that ends up getting recovered in something called a 'deal' where both parties get some money for it. As for the 'system', read up a few comments above
We went to the same high school, all I care about is the music.
omfg so I am a new fan (I have no excuses I am sorry) but when I first heard her guitar playing I literally said finally somebody who is inspired by Jimi Hendrix.
As if people like her don't have power? She is a talented, wealthy, educated good looking woman. For her to pretend she isn't part of the class of people who run society is disconcerting and harms her credibility.
You have a point, she speaks bullshit, but you are just playing the victim game by saying she has power and privilege and blah blah blah.
I'm so happy to see her smile)Seriously when I see her smiling, I feel myself so much better and even happier:)
Love her very very much❤❤❤
She's plugs into the now & translates what she feels which always seems to add to her sensuality.
Love my day any day listening to #StVincent Genius goes around too easily frequently in modern social media news, but with Annie one would not be wrong! I know somewhere out there Jimi is jamming with Annie
"You might LOVE it, you might HATE it, or you might be COMPLETELY confounded"
She left out option D., which is not being moved at all by it. For someone supposedly pushing boundaries, her every word in this interview is a cliche steeped in the most basic and temporal (a la transient) aspects of our current cultural milieu.
Where is the picture from 0:45 from? I love it and would like to have a copy of it.
Oh no, not this guy again. The King of ambush "journalism".
She is the system.
That's not my dad, that's a cellphone duhhh
She's awesome and a true original.
I was never a Kate Bush fan but she is definitely not even close to David Bowie. The most innovative artist and song writer ever.
I love her...just a powerhouse.
i dont want to give any room for machist or sexiest comments here ! If you are conscious against the opinions of St. Vincent here, just left this room quickly !
*misogynist *sexist
st vincent is garbage
*Gets out decoder ring...*
plot twist she is part of the system
smbody help iv got gender fluid all over my new shirt
It's funny how I hate her music but I like her so much
pointe blank .if you don't like the channel just turn it to something you do like.let her be her and she will let you keep being you that simple.this girl just plainly rocks.and the world of stagnant radio shows and channels needs more of this women .don't ever change .
You fall in love from a distance you tend to want to get closer as things unfold
Stunning and talented.
"I think people are more empowered to speak truth to power." Ok then, Annie.... Still one heck of a musician though.
This the first time I've heard of St Vincent I just watched her on Let's go crazy a The Grammy salute to Prince tonight on CBS...👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Nauseatingly disappointing. Not an original thought in her head.
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Best. Interview. Ever.
Love.
Thinking like this is the product of coddled minds.
Absolutely loved what she had to say, it really speaks to me.
give me an L, give me an E, give me an S, give me a B and give me an OHhhhhhhh
Her family has been in this industry for decades. She is the system.
and then gaslights anyone who's gullible to listen, as if half of what she says doesn't come from a list of talking points that address this vague audience that the rest of society is supposed to unironically identify with, even though its clearly a made up fantasy of what doesn't exist; all that to just pump up their "perception" of the world they're surrounded by, when the circles they are surrounded by are the furthest thing from the "society" they hold so much contempt for. Stupidly un-original
I love her, but she's not really 'fighting the system'...gender stuff, yeah but c'mon
I like her! hut yes there is this very self aware elitist bourgeoisie blue blood kind of vibe to her. Like gaga had and like Del Rey. Not really anything breakaway
Well, the Stormfront / Promise Keepers crowd is certainly convinced this windmill is a giant.
She could be a model
You know, st Vincent has been in my top 10 since high school. But I saw the interviewer and I just can’t watch it. This man makes me want to scratch a chalkboard.
I love her ❤️
she doesn't mention her uncle who has been a professional guitar player for over forty years with Tuck and Patty, which is interesting.
I make a point in avoiding cliches and I will say that while I like part of her music, her ideology is nowadays THE mainstream. There is nothing alternative or courageous in proclaiming that gender is fluid. Quite the opposite, tbh.
Do you want to experiment about "the system"? Try and write a twitter arguing that male and female are objectively distinct, and see what happens.
O" She's Definitely A Female Semi-Version Of Prince, Without A Doubt 😀
thank you for having this conversation. “no, i get to decide whT power looks like on me” is an important missing element in the artwork for me. now it clicks with the brilliant person she is and the music she makes
She’s kidding. She knows how to play that guitar.
St Vincent Kebumen hadir lurrr
Is that a toilet paper roll
She’s so mellow
Pff this woman is stunning on every imaginable level. And so funny that she, without being asked directly not just admits that one third of her notes are random and she turns that into empowerment with a disarming smile. I have used this trick if you want to call it that and it annoyed me for a pretty long time. being a guitar dyslectic I have bent that annoying feeling into something you can actually lean into as long as its a really good song in wich one adapts this style. Chapeau!
She is wonderful, clever an amazing guitar player and composer . Her performances and videos are minimalist but really fresh with a little touch of "break the rules", that I like. The only thing that I don´t like in this interview is the use of "empowered" word; be what you want to be That´s the point.
Genius at work!
Her show looks like nine inch nails lights in the sky tour
I love her style.
St Vincent is beautiful I wish she was my girlfriend jk but she is very talented and beautiful
Welcome
Wait isnt this that dude who made robert downey jr leave an interview?
She and Kate Perry are sisters.
New fan. Who is this woman? I'm in love
The whole gender fluidity thing is not independent of preexisting assumptions. Assumptions is for lack of a better word because some truly have blind faith while others have more reason than faith for their worldview. You can believe homosexuality is wrong, but if you hate gay people themselves for it, then you are just as bad.
I been waiting for her to get up and leave the interview
love the maxwell reference. #blown away #lost.
You should be the one listening missy THAT IS why l played the fucking clip
She's a mix between josh klinghoffer and Pj Harvey.... I think
I feel like she has no idea what she’s talking about