Lucy Letby: Hospital boss who oversaw scandal blocked from running other trusts
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2023
- Angry staff who worked at the Countess of Chester hospital took steps to ensure Tony Chambers’s new employers were aware of what happened.
Tony Chambers did not respond to a request for comment from the Times.
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I hope the two that retired in 2018 are also held to account and tried for criminal negligence, along with others, after a very much needed public enquiry
Right, they should be banged to rights. Preventing them from working elsewhere isn't a punishment, it's just a precaution!
We should also poo in there gardens!!! How dare there
Typical dumb mob mentality. Mainstream media consuming peasant.
Get off the internet, go for a walk.
Do you know how tiny babies were?
Corporate manslaughter that what they should be charged with.
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I worked for NHS for 30years, those managers are doing nothing and getting paid a fortune for it! The law should be changed and these managers and chief executive should be sacked! Its about time they are held accountable for their actions!.. i would never go back to working for NHS!
Yes 👍 rightly said
Hopefully, the entire system will be overhauled.
NHS hospital managment has long required reform.
Unqualified people, overreaching their abilities, making clinical decisions is criminal😢
You often find GP receptionists behaving in such a way - making clinical decisions about who gets priority to see the doctor when they’re not qualified.
Bunch of jumped up pencil pushers
Lol
Absolutely agree. It is "who you know" hierarchy
@@FazsterHQthe receptionists at my GP clinic are trained in medical triage.
In Japan managers take full responsibility for any grave mistakes they make. They apologise in public and resign from their posts.
In the UK they always try and shift the blame to others.
@dhiaulhaq, in England it usually means a golden handshake and a move to another well paid and high profile post as well.
British innit
Same in the USA
Fxxx Japan
Managers associated with industrial accidents / deaths can go to prison for their decisions. Likewise, decisions in this case that allowed the murderous death count to continue should be met with prison sentences.
Totally agree
Don’t forget the HR administration’s who wield unbelievable power, they would have been advising the administrators as well.
@@alfiecat9288, totally agree. HR would have been consulted at every stage.They are strangely quiet.
I’m staggered that he ignored the concerns of the Consultants, made them apologise and threaten them with dismissal if they didn’t. His judgement is obviously very questionable and he should be brought to account for it.
Totally agree, it would have saved many a baby's life, sadly he chose not to act
JAIL HIM!
Without a doubt they should be locked up too
Absolutely!
For the crime of corporate manslaughter.
@@scalarnaitotally agree
I've heard that Tony Chambers who was the chief executive of the hospital where Lucy Letby worked was paid £80,000 after he resigned just weeks after Lucy Letby was first arrested in September 2018. According to the annual report, his pension was worth £1.08 million in March 2018 (six months before he departed, only weeks after Letby's arrest).
My festerin God
My sister had a nightmare 15 years ago. She’s now a medical records assessor, but had then worked for the NHS for 25 years and used to set up the Consultants clinics, therefore had high access to patient medical records. She discovered data breaches on certain patient records and tried to report it, but no one in HR seemed to know how to handle the situation. When she came back from holiday she discovered one of the IT managers had tampered with her computer. That same manager came onto her sexually and they didn’t want to help her regarding that either. He was eventually paid off with an £80,000 handshake, then turned up in another hospital a few years later in another management position. The corruption is rife.
Ian Harvey is another
Wtaf??
Never mind blocked from running trusts... He should do some time! Multiple people came to him multiple time with concerns and he made THEM apologise to HER FFS!!!!
That is incompetence on an epic scale that ended up costing children their lives.
FINALLY! Accountability MUST be shown at all times if we want to better the NHS.
He should be brought to justice in a court of law and be made to answer for his negligence
When manglement ignore the concerns of, not only 7 senior doctors, but a multitude of supporting staff , and choose to believe 1 nurse
All at the top need to be made accountable , it's a disgrace that these consultants should of been listened to I trained in the nhs in 74 I find this absolutley disgusting I hope the parents get justice and these consultants get an apology from said top men and women who made them apologise to a baby murderer
Same year as myself a time before Trust status and pointless managers. A time when Dr's and Nurses ran the hospitals boy take me back to 5hose days x
Should HAVE
Far more than an apology is required, I would say. Hefty fines at least, and not allowed to seek similar lucrative posts elsewhere. If not jail.
Very misleading title as these failing CEOs are not blocked from running other trusts and are often also paid huge golden handshakes to leave. Thats wfat happened at my kocal hospitak- Queens un Romford. Not only that, but his wife was also let go from her CEO post at a neighbouring hospital and she along with him got a huge pay off and each has a pension worth 100 times my NHS pension from my 50 yrs service as a nurse and midwife!
These managers involved over this time period MUST be held accountable in a proper investigation into their behaviour,decision making and ability to make a qualified clinical judgement. We're all tax payers paying their exhorbitant salaries!
Promoted beyond the limits of his competence ….
When there was any suspicion a nurse was harming the babies, why didn't they install cameras, especially when more deaths occured. Now we have no solid evidence of her committing those crimes.
Hospital wielded the stick at all stages. And direct delivered threats of "consequences" from those holding power & influence from Chambers(mgmt.) was what guided all going forward. Pressure off Letby for 1 or 2 more yrs. You don't know certainly what ego maniacs of power mean issuing threats of, "will be consequences". Threats are a crime but no certainty what level of threat Chambers meant or capable of. These uncertainties had influence. Delayed police contact until expenditure of time showed greater evidence & deaths.
@florinaway7. You're forgetting murderers don't show their cards. You won't find them 'in the act' dah. Everyone did well to find a pattern that turned to Only her. But still zero response of it from mgmt. And even when baby deaths continued. Do you know there were 16 infant deaths!? Double what she was only convicted for 7. She was killing one after another.
@@it_blows_my_mind yet not one victim named. The first time in British history a conviction has been handed down without one victim being named , something isn't right.
@@metalicminer6231, witnesses not named and giving evidence behind screens as well.This is unprecedented ( apart from cases where witnesses could be endangered).Something definitely not right.
They did. But they also moved her off the ward
Aren’t they guilty of aiding and abetting due to their lack of action after receiving complaints?
Why is a hospital trust different to any other business?
Exactly. Their lack of action made them complicit, and enabling, in the deaths and injuries to those babies. Hope to see them in the dock.
NHS bosses far more concerned with getting higher raises than worry about trivial things like healthcare...
The person will get a golden handshake and afyer a couple of years reinstated
He should be moved to a cell
What a good idea.
With a Tiger
All the people who made poor decisions should be blocked from holding any position where decision-making is an important part of the job until all investigations are complete. These peoples judgement is under serious question.
Please note I don't just mean the enquiry that the government has set up. I also mean any police enquiry that may take place.
To say that the picture of her smiling in the thumbnail is totally inappropriate is an understatement.
Human Resources. Now there's a category that needs massive investigation and more liability.
Once it was a couple of ladies dealing with holidays and sick leave and now it's a concrete edifice laying down rules about job situations it's never experienced and dispensing life-altering decisions slathered in psychobabble.
All with a frozen smile and cheap perfume.
They should be held accountable. Because he more than anybody. Gave his consent for her to continuevmurdering those babies and the other ones also should be held also. The should loose there pensions. If they can’t be jailed. There as guilty as her. Heinous people
This has been happening for years. Tthere have been many examples of where a manager has been appointed, only to find out they have wasted money on schemes that don't work,. Rather than being disciplined for this they are quietly moved to another, NHS trust, whilst the former trust have been left to pick up the pieces. This kind of practice appears to be condoned by the Health Department, whilst those who '...whistle blowers...' who try to publicize/highlight this problem are pilloried for speaking up, and their reports are ignored.
Jobs for the boys .
Women hold such positions too, and they are equally corrupt, I know from personal experience
They covered it up and need jailed
Wales needs investigating too, why the are paying surgeons who aren't actually treating NHS patients, who are more interested in performing private treatments on the side. They're killing patients livers and kidneys with meds just so surgeons can neglect mostly female spinal patients, putting them back to bottom of the queue after they've spent years waiting and climbing to the top.
Now all he has to do is be sacked, have his pension taken off him, have his kids taken off him and go to jail...job done.
Then go after the others who were complicit.
Well said!!
I had a horrible experience at the Countess of Chester many years ago.
Considering what has happened how have none of the senior management who were in charge at the time had zero accountability for their actions? This happened on their watch and worse concerns that were raised about this idnividual by other staff to the senior management, and those concerns were not only ignored, it sounds like they were actively shut down by these people.
Unfortunately, that is NHS management since the 80s. They think that running a hospital is just like running a hotel.
And that kind of thinking is dangerous.
I worked at a hospital over 20 years ago with a CEO who actively put lives at risk, but he is best remembered for suspending surgeons who raised concerns. AFAIK, he is running another Trust now...
NHS the best place for fake “professionalism”😢
Yes!! and I've seen it with my own eyes!
@@toteyboy8191 I have worked in Nhs few different jobs in SGH
Is hart breaking seeing how Nhs is handled by the heads and by the lower bands of employees
Doctors should run NHS hospital not managers!
He was even the CEO at the trust I currently work at, this trust has had A LOT of its own issues with patient deaths and negligence.
Others should be charged with man slaughter.
None of them will ever be held accountable. ..they never are.
What it says it's that some people will always fall upwards and this manager seems to be one of them.
All those hospital management, and any others, who brushed aside the genuine concerns made by other hospital personnel ARE COMPLICIT IN THE DEATHS AND INJURIES TO LETBYS VICTIMS. THEY SHOULD ALL FACE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
Parents who lost their babies because Letby murdered them should sue Tony Chambers and all the managers.
What a huge ego power threat IMO coming to light from management that guided the
time line which recklesly allowed time for killing of more babies. Threat from Chambers "or there will be consequences".
They should be done for corporate manslaughter 🤬🤬🤬🤬.
I was a qualified nurse and midwife at a time when Matron and Consultants and other appropriate health professionals managed hospitals. Business managers were brought into the NHS on massive salaries the rot began 🙁
Blame Tony Blair
He should be in prison
"Blocked from"? As if they are normally entitled to. Not, ever again, "picked to" would be my wording. I'm also not "picked to" run a trust.
The same happens in education before and audit and assessment team arrives, to make sure the teacher is delivering the qualifications, polices and procedures to meet government and education examination board standards. What usually happens as Grahampritchard has exampled is that people go off on sick leave while looking for a new job while the enquiry is taking place. Better that than too loose your credibility, reputation and identity! Government minister do it all the time, resign and end up in other avenues of government departments!
What level of threat was meant in "there will be consequences"? From someone weilding their ego. Would have been the worry. The Consultants failed also, joining with the heirarchy management effectively, allowing concerns for "hospital image" to prevail over data that couldn't exclude 1 particular nurse Letby in every attempt the investigation was guided to do so. Was all laid out to management & still protection given to Letby by hospital. Reprehensible hospital mgmt. didn't remove their 'rose coloured' glasses when data proof was indicating they must. A 5 y.o could figure that out.
If Letby had been a man would the situation have been the same? Just asking?
jail them all
Boss -> prison.
I think she had a Alibi who probably knew
This was unbelievable. I worked my life in hospitals.
The management of Chester hospital were warned what the nurse was doing. They are totally responsible for her actions. Why haven't they been questioned its an absolute disgrace shame on all of them
What ?? If he said there would be consequences surely that should include himself. Poor show.
Can you just imagine how hard this trial was on that jury? Hearing all that testimony from those poor parents, knowing a young woman's career was at stake, etc. They took their job very seriously. The right verdict was reached. Another point that's really significant: the defense didn't have any witnesses to call on her behalf except a plumber. Wow. Just wow.
That manager needs to be compelled to give statements in court and answer for his crime of allowing this to happen further
Surely these managers failed in their duty of care to patients. Therefore they should be charged with corporate manslaughter.
Senior managers are nowadays given too much power over clinician and they misused it too often undermining health professionals.. and some of them highly paid with no managerial skills
How awful! This is scandalous.
Tony Chambers needs to be prosecuted for CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE, and get to share a nice cozy cell with Bubba!
He'll get a massive payout and be allowed to retire, into obscurity. Pity. He should be dragged over the coals and have his assets frozen and gaoled.
And jailed!!
It's about time this particular set of management and senior NHS executive need to be investigated. Know place to dissappear for any of them . Everyone one involved in this must be brought to account, and if found gulity of neglect pay dearly. . Seems to be an epidemic in NHS management and excutive,s in this country who's only interest is in ones bank account.
He should have been in the dock with Her?
He should not escape justice! 😳
I have PTSD because of bad doctors in NHS. As a result I have no faith in doctors, or the NHS at all. I find it really sad when we were the envy of the world once. I now find it difficult to even get a doctors appointment now days, whereas illegals get doctors check up 4 times a week. What has happened to our country? I do however give praise to those doctors who are generally trying to survive and give their all in a badly run, and sadly dying situations.
Doctors are overpaid.
The system is broken 😢
£500k over 3 years! this is insanity!
They had a duty of care to the patients they are all guilty for covering up this heinous crime and should be prosecuted. HOPE FAMILIES TAKE CLASS A ACTION AGAINST THEM THIS WOULD ACT AS A DETERRENT TO OTHERS
How do we ensure...the right thing ...in our hospitals? Easy. Each trust needs a council of medical professors/ lead consultants lead by a head professor whom they appoint.
No bureaurats at all needed.
Heads should roll but will they ?
May everyone involved with allowing Letby take and hurt these precious livea be punished. They deserve to be arrested too for abetting. Doing NOTHING and being a bystander whilst accepting an unholy amount of money for not doing your job makes you complicit!!!
as far as the NHS hierarchy is concerned Chambers was the ideal candidate to suppress whistle-blowers , that is WHY they wanted him.
So we MUST also investigate the people who employed him, as they are likely to be suppressing whistleblowing as well, and hiding malpractice .
No TRUST to get any treatment in Uk ... is all about how to make a money from the patient...
Unfortunately they don’t get “blocked” unless there have been Major incidents Publicly Exposed
Probably Letby Lucy's Manageress is also a psychopath. No one dies without cause and effect. They didn't listen to expert doctors or launch internal investigation. Most probably she also ( The Manageress) enjoyed the pain suffering and helplessness of the parents and other doctors. Letby Lucy repeatedly did the horror 12 times... against all odds, concerns and warnings. Why dont they screen the Managers for Psychopathy ... Trusts and Missionaries full of burnt souls..
They sit in there office and haven't got a clue what goes on on the ward's
Yes, they should have solved the sewage issues and issues with Dr Gibbs that caused 32 deaths.
Not enough! 7 babies lost they lives and should be in prison for manslaughter
That won't happen! The NHS types are protected like M.P's
MIPO isn't investigated, let alone corrected
Them and Us all over again...
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Can I hear a whoop-whoop for all those people who don't trust people in suits who don't do much but get paid more 🙌
You do definately
Does the managers' conduct not rise to the level of being an accomplice in the later killings, or culpable homicide/manslaughter?
The nhs needs to be scrapped. And the criminal bosses need dealing with. Harshly.
Remember SW managers who are hidden by the stats on 'NHS' managers.
Also managers are not regulated by regulators because the regulator is a private company and writes its own policies that purposely sidestep legislation to deselect managers from all accountability.
Imo.
In my experience.
Don't believe all you hear/read about front line professionals being incompetent etc, there's a lot of gaslighting by managers.
Imo
only God knows the facts and whether someone's done something bad - and God will be the only reliable Judge
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this one blocked from working again as a hospital manager but what about the others who slipped out the door with their pension pots sitting pretty ..
I think this shows there is a lot hidden in the NHS
Who will be held to account for lack of checks and balances on The Murderer? Casper Ghost, I guess.
"i take full responsibility for any more deaths" dont act surprised there being looked at, its about time
This whole sickening catalogue of events is beyond excusable. All three have blood on their hands. More concerned about the hospitals reputation and winning (what we now know to be unfounded) awards, hosted at glitzy EXPENSIVE!!! venues. Unless there is a full public enquiry, where they will be compelled to answer for their lack of actions, there will be no justice for these babies and their grief stricken families. The British public, who basically pay these managers and executives wages, should and must see justice done.
The NHS management is deeply corrupt dismissing all complaints against any patient abuse. It's a serious problem
Its not just the NHS though, its ALL healthcare!
Should be in prison as well
How do we do we contact you? Urgently please
Tony Chambers should be in prison for aiding and abetting.
And rightly so
The complicit managers should be gaoled along with the nurse! We all know NHS is protected by hand clappers aka mentally ill!
Mangers…the grubbiest enablers of them all.
Trouble ? I've been waiting four and a half years for a knee replacement, now thanks to the NHS that i've paid in for 49 years, i now require 2 knees and 2 hips, exolain that ?
Maybe some of the things that some of the consultants said are actually lies… Maybe some of the consultants have been negligent themselves…
They need to fired now
They want the money without responsibility, not all managers but alot are chocolate firegaurd
They won't end up up working for £10 a hour in some dead end job.
Iam so happy she’s locked up for life