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I know China is like your Shtick, if you guys decide to do a road tour of the US and come to Indy, the home of Speed (aka Naptown) I'll gladly buy you a beer and show you around. This city is beautiful and doesnt fall apart.
@@feuerherz007 Yeah, you'd think that they could at least hit the China-Towns of the US or wherever they are. Actually, I hope they are doing that now, and will tell us only after they are done. I'd hate to see them get ambushed by CCP operatives.
I’ve heard some people joke that Hollywood should go film superhero movies in China so they can have characters punch through buildings without needing any CGI
Have you guys seen Shaolin monks performing kung-fu tricks by putting spear against their throat and survived unharmed? Wonder if their tricks would ever work if they had used spear made using European or American standard?
Question: Do they keep good records? I'm in Japan, and when a piece of concrete fell off of a structure along a rail line, they went back in the records and visited the workmen from that site 10~15 years previous, asked all sorts of questions. They also found the supervisors and officials that signed off on the project... and there were consequences. Re-testing on buildings, at times tearing them down and forcing rebuilding at the construction company's cost sort of thing, which REALLY incentivises people to do good, accurate, durable work..
Japan has international reputation for quality. Almost anything Japanese or German raises few questions about quality. Old 4 wheel drive Toyotas now sell more than when they were purchased. People know they hold up.
I agree with you that Taipei is a modern but old city. You can have new construction right next to buildings that have been in place for a very long time. When the Nationals exiled to Taiwan, they did not destroy the history of the city or the island. They kept the history of the Chinese and the Taiwanese in tact. You can walk from super modern to a historical place and back in the space of a few blocks. It's an amazing place to visit.
As a outsider the ccp destroyed the language in China and also destroyed the culture. So its up to Chinese people to learn from the taiwanese people how to be truly Chinese
Very poor video quality. Content, video editing... are you even trying? And wtf was that 80s christmas video reference? I used to show your videos to friends to show how shitty china is. Right now you dont add anything to the conversation
I watched an interview with a Chinese construction worker who said that they always have a "bidding war" on big construction sites on which companies can get it done the quickest and cheapest. The deadlines are set in unreasonable timelines because of that and since they have lowered their prices so dramatically to win the bid in the first place they need to use shit material.
imagining this kinda standards in germany is giving me illness, makes me appreciate my country way more than I thought I could. Found u guys half a year ago and I’m happy to say, I’m still far away from having seen all your videos. Thank you for this amazing content, be safe and stay blessed 🫶🏼
I have a friend who worked a lot in China, travelled to many second/third tier cities. He says that Chinese cities, especially the "new" places, are "good from far, but far from good". I think that was brilliant because it illustrates perfectly the "new but cheap" architecture sprouting around the country you guys talk about in here.
@@haydonditchburn2194 what are you counting as 'western' here? I live in a 3rd world country and you don't get that bs construction here. You'll have to go to very CORRUPT (not necessarily poor) countries to get entire buildings tipping over every other day lol.
I get the impression that China will take someone else's well thought idea, make something that appears the same, but they cut out all the theory and reasoning behind the build and focus on appearance. And their product naturally sucks because of this.
Exactly... the configuration of their nervous system allows them to be amazing players and memory based skills, but when it comes to context, creativity and independent thinking they got behind, very very far bahind, from Europeans.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 I suspect that this is likely due to culture and worldview differences (a memetic difference) that value conformity over innovation, rather than genetic difference, but since memes (not the "internet funny" kind, but rather "transmissible idea", which is why the internet type of memes are called memes in the first place) also alter the central nervous system (more specifically the brain) I suppose we agree. Then again, I could also be wrong and it could be genetic differences.
I'm an engineer in Canada. There is a constant conflict between regulation and getting the job done. This is what makes infrastructure safer. It seems like this constant conflict or tension is necessary in the system to make it better. Been there; done that.
In my experience, Canadian standards are much more restrictive than U.S. standards, to the point where it really strongly seems like trade protectionism.
@@Toshinben what does structural integrity have to do with trade protectionism? But what is crazy is how American building code still refuse to take into account of hurricanes so year after year huge swaths of land is still leveled because they still allow people to build match stick houses instead of proper steel and concrete structures that can withstand tornadoes!
Yeah and the building was over 50 years old and built on the beach where it floods from hurricanes which likely did nothing to help it's stability. It was an utterly rare occurrence for us as buildings never collapse, hell I use to live in a building that was over 150 years old and it still had trees that were used for the beams of the house that ran the length of the building in the basement with bark still on it in places. The place was sound as a rock still (though it did weird some people out because it made a lot of odd noises at night when the house settled so they thought it was haunted sometimes)
@@worndown8280 Not really -- here's why: I'm a residential architect, and I know how strong and regulated our design and construction industry is. But the #1 reason we don't have buildings falling down more is ... lawyers. I did one condominium project back in 2006, and the only way to design the building was to think about how I could get sued, and design against that. It was not enjoyable, so I never did another project that fell under commercial construction legal exposure. Residential architecture is much more lax because it's much simpler compared to commercial buildings. We have an incredibly safe system of checks and balances that makes it extremely difficult to build a bad building here in the US.
I have a few friends who point to the condo collapse as proof the US has problems and we need to follow China's example. Any video evidence of things happening in China are right-wing conspiracies to them. Its really insane.
@@TheZoePath I was speaking purely from a statistical standpoint. Statistically in a nation as large as ours is, with many large cities having builds that are 40 plus years old, that we dont have an event like this once every few years or even decades is statistically staggering. Regardless of the over site. I could say the same thing about bridges.
Was taking the subway/train into Shanghai one time. A lady came walking down the isle in in the subway train with a kid in tow. The kid was horribly disfigured. Looked like he had been in a serious fire. With as much of the scaring covering his head and shirtless body, I was really surprised that he survived. After they passed, my wife asked about him, and evidently they spend all day going up and down in the trains begging for money. Turns out that it actually was not her child. She had bought him off of someone else to use for begging.
On the topic of sinkholes. In populated areas, sinkholes are often cause by improperly built or rundown sewage and water pipes. Underground leakage can hollow out large areas of ground which eventually collapse into a sinkhole. Can't say this is the case in China, but letting things fall into disrepair and ruin kind of fits into China's MO.
Visited Vanuatu several years ago. Road from city to airport had 3/4 of it built by NZ company 5 years ago in perfect condition and rest built 6 months ago by ccp and falling to pieces.
I'm in Morocco and there's definitely a similar model, shiny highways and high speed trains... but still I've never seen a main road in THAT condition. Even if you end up sent to an unpaved road, the gravel is spread well so you can still do 50 or 70.
I once went to China for work and stayed in 6 star hotel - the light on the nightstand does not work so I check what's wrong with it (being an electrical engineer and all that), followed the cord and found that the socket underneath the nightstand is rigged directly to the power cables in the wall with exposed wires and they don't even bother to put a face plate to cover the hole in the wall cos from top you can't see anything. Needless to say I didn't touch that crap for the rest of the trip cos I was afraid I'd die from electrical shock. There's a Chinese proverb which describe these crap all around China - 金玉其外, 敗絮其中 - shiny on the outside, rotten on the inside.
On point as a fellow EE. No one in China cares about safety let alone QC. I started traveling to China when CCP promised freedom and privatization. My brother was so euphoric he asked his company to transfer there. After witnessing 30+ years of personal and family experience, I gave up my hope. The brazen and widespread corruptions, non existent of food safety and sanitation enforcement…etc. it broke my heart to see carnage inflicted on citizens. Thanks to Winston and Matthew for exposing the ugly snake called CCP.
Hey guys, I lived in Guangzhou for 13 years, founded an MC there. In fact one of my club brothers Daniel bought one of your bikes, rode it all the way back to Guangzhou. I agree with all of your views on China 100%, man could I tell you guys some stories. Keep it guys you're doing a great job getting the truth out.
a part of the problem with sinkholes is that they've built these massive concrete jungles without care about drainage and as you mentioned, not caring about the geology, and water erodes under the cement and it collapses
I recall stories from expat engineers in China about this sort of thing. One Chinese outfit they worked with would recycle most of the rebar after the form was inspected and before pouring concrete. The engineers learned to watch the pour before signing off.
I went to Tibet about a decade ago and according to my Tibetan guide, the CCP has the most genius/devilish speed cam scheme in Tibet. They installed hundreds of these metal boxes that is supposed to hold speed cameras along the road. so you have a box every few hundred meters, but they only had two or three cameras for the entire stretch and they swap the position of the cameras everyday. so you'll never know where the camera is going to be. they then kept the speed limit so low that it takes a long time to get anywhere (Tibet is huge).
"Why Are Bridges in China Falling Down?" Because china envied the the Brits in the song "London Bridge is falling down" and they said 'That's nothing!! Watch this!!!'
This is one of the main reasons why I recently fled Mainland China. A whole lot of China's infrastructure looks good enough or even shiny from just the right distance, from far enough away. It looks good from a drone or tourist photoshoot zone. Get closer and see that the uneven and shoddy lines, the botched concrete, then get closer and see the crumble, the ugly patch jobs, then realize this building/bridge/sidewalk is only 6 years old. Over the next decade, collapses, sinkholes, just the entire general disrepair, elevator deaths, injuries, gas explosions will what destroys, degenerates and wrecks Mainland China back into a kind of massive Brazilian Favela for the rest of the 21st century.
@@BountyFlamorYou show us how it's done, big guy. I share your exasperation but think about what you're saying. Apart from Tank Man, most people don't do martydom with shopping bags. It's not the way the limbic system works. If they do, they usually just get hosed off the cobblestones. The evil of the Commo-fascists is they'll come in on the back of general complaint and disagreement, claiming to be on the side of the little guy, then they'll point bigger guns at everyone for a century behind a 'Great' Firewall and rattle sabres at the neighbours while quietly syphoning the bank.
Ironically, no rule of law means construction companies are not held liable for failing to meet established building standards. This is the key problem in China.
Funny you should mention Belt and Road countries. That already happened in Kenya with Chinese-built bridges and roads in Uganda. And that's the tip of the iceburg with China leading all sorts of infrastructure projects. Those poor African nations, being taken advantage of.
The Chinese built the Tanzam railway as a cooperative project in the 1970's when China was poor and the 'Wesr' supported Rhodesia and apartheid South Africa.
Yep. China comes in, basically makes the country sign away their soul to get their help, and gives huge bribes out to make it all go smoothly with the government officials.
Holy shit when I looked at the bridge I thought it looks familiar, it’s right at my hometown. It’s the main Highway connecting Huangshi to Wuhan, I remember seeing a lot of new highway constructions sprout up around 2012 in that region. Now the accidents are finally catching up.
I worked for a hi-tech Taiwan company and was shooting video in our Kunshan factory in mainland China. One area was devoted to various machines that tortured products: dead drop onto concrete, salt-water spray (for hours), hot-cold cycling, and shaker tables. The young lady showing me around explained that we use the shaker tables to simulate products riding on a truck for a couple weeks, over terrible Chinese roads!
Yous guys are da best. You can't do anything to discourage me from wanting to learn Chinese. If anything, knowing you can learn Chinese and keep your soul intact inspires me even more. One day I am going to say I finally managed to learn Chinese because you two inspired me. Ni shi wo de ge ge.
That sinkhole looks like something from the loony toons. Also, the building in FL was from a leaking pool that people ignored, not sure why but i dont think that is anything to be compared to China's poor quality engineering when their stuff just naturally falls down.
As a Chinese economist pointed out all the buildings and infrastructure projects built in the last 20 years will collapse in the next 30 to 50 years and all the money and resources spent to build them will have been wasted.
@@juliusadams7527 Lei's Real Talk posted a video of Larry Ping Lang saying this, but I didn't find it just now. She shows him being similarly critical in some videos that are still up.
Might be the same in the middle East (Persian Gulf). Designed well but the workers doing the building errrh. Not sure. Spain has a problem with buildings built for the tourist boom in the 1960s and 1970s. Bits falling off
The first sequence at the beginning with the potholes all over the road with all the cameras prove that China has little interest in safety or catching speeders, etc; but rather to use its AI and cameras to track everyones movements. First, you don't need anywhere near those numbers of cameras to catch cars speeding. Second, its only viable purpose could be to keep track of everyones location. Only those with connections, especially to Winieh the Pooh, are above the law in China. Just look at Peng Shuan (sp). I don't beleive anything she has said or written since dissapearing. Indeed, that last genuine post of hers exposing the rape is the only thing that can be trusted. WTA, so far did well (unless they let the ccp off due to what is clearly blackmail and/or extortion by the state to ensure Peng does repeat the truth. As long as she has family, or herself, is in China-nothing can be trusted by her statements since her family is under direct threat. IOS, help that poor girl!
Everything in China has to do with influence. EVERYTHING is layers, if you are on the bottom you get the shitty end of the stick. Asia in general is like that, it is sort of reverse Confucianism.
I was about to say the same - those are not speed cameras. An array of cameras for every lane (albeit not existing here) are either toll or surveillance. Here in the EU it's exacty like that and speed cameras are single and on a pole next to the road. Of course, toll and surveillance cameras can also monitor speed but that's not their main feature.
@@alatus7242 Most main roads in China are dual or three lane carriageways. ONE camera for each lane. The cameras flash everytime a car goes faster than usual. There are similar type cameras, above the roads, in the U.K as I have seen them on some dual carriageways.
@@teflerchina.2987 Pure speed cameras monitor many lanes simultaneously since it does not matter much at what angle they are because the speed is measured either with a laser or radar Doppler or purely digitally by frames. All they need is to catch the license plate. Camera arrays over each lane however are placed so that they have a good frontal view on each car in order to observe windshield stickers for toll, insurance, etc. or run OCR on license plates and check their status online. Measuring speed and surveillance is just an added option on some. The speed cameras here are mainly mobile and deployed at random, otherwise drivers quickly learn where they are and slow down, so they catch only those who are oblivious or distracted. What's the point of such large installations with multimple cameras that are obvious from a km away? Of course most drivers will slow down at them which defeats the whole purpose.
Honestly I'd like to see how many countries world wide are sick enough of China's bullshit to go to war. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were on our side this time.
@@trevtall1094 Haha! Yeah I read about that. Imagine the nightmare that would be. I can see it in the papers now. UK held to ransom! China remotely flips the OFF switch! Britain owes billions!!! Spyware found in reactor software! Reactor collapses, China blames Taylor-Wimpy, etc. I was just hoping our Government was astute and foresighted enough to say "NO!!"
@@sneakyglowormBoris was the one who stopped the deal. And considering the recent news of Jeremy Hunt (Tory MP, ex Foreign Secretary and Health Minister) and his Chinese wive presenting on a new CCP propaganda news channel it's clear who was pushing CCPs agenda
It is normal for a bridge deck to be separate from the support columns / piers. A bearing, either rubber or steel, is between the bottom of the deck and the top of the pier, it allows to deck and columns to move independently of each other. That part of the design is ok, the deck falling off the piers is most certainly not.
Honestly trucks do a lot of damage to roads, whether the truck is crappy or not. A fully loaded 18-wheeler will do approximately 2000x more damage to the asphalt than your typical American car. That's why roads in industrial areas are often in much rougher shape than in residential areas that get minimal truck traffic. I can see why they wouldn't want to bother maintaining a road if the trucks keep destroying it, especially if the trucks are able to handle all the potholes. Sucks that the motorcycles can't go on the highways though.
Trucks are indeed heavy, that's why it's common sense to build roads that can handle those loads. And punish truckers that are overloaded. Also Chinese trucks cannot handle potholes. With most of them, the chassis breaks in half after 6 months.
@@neovenom9833 maybe they should put more effort into maintaining truck roads then. But even here in Canada where they have truck weighing stations and stuff, roads in industrial areas have to get repaved more often then residential streets, and will have deep grooves from the weight of the trucks (my area is usually pretty good about filling potholes though).
In the U.S. we have our infrastructure problems, but most are from infrastructure built 50 or more years ago. Alot of this infrastructure is safe but in needs of repairs to keep it that way for the long run. From what I have seen about the way China builds infrastructure and buildings in general, I figure you have to cut that down to at best half if not a third or less of a lifespan for infrastructure and building without major problems or major investment in repairs. Since a lot of China's boom was from the early 2000s, that means that in about five years, and it seams in many cases far earlier, a lot of infrastructure or buildings will start to be in a condition that major repairs will be needed, or the infrastructure and buildings will need to be replaced. How can a country build more wealth when it has to go back and replace what is failing in such massive quantities. In 10 years it will be interesting to see the state China is in when a large part of its buildings reach their probable lifespan.
Yes you have tired that long and still No highspeed train. About the speed cameras. The primary reason is not to check speed it’s to check you and what you do. Spy camera for the government I would say
My hometown is on a swamp. It's been here for over 1500 years, although obviously it didn't start rapidly growing until relatively recently. In 27 years of my life we've had 2 small sinkholes, both basically near a river, and even in the early-high middle ages they knew how stabilise the ground (so did the ancient Chinese by the way) to prevent buildings from collapsing. At worst when construction was a bit rushed (like in case of our basilica) the whole building would just slightly set, pushing the foundation a few feet down and requiring the entrance to be enlarged lol
I worked in China in construction for 18 months. Just like in Russia they skip on the materials and put the savings into their pockets. The Quality control certificates are paid for and if a big company needs a world renowned Quality control company to sign off their work (oil and gas) they get the Russian office and bribe the inspectors. Another factor that you haven't mentioned in Chinese culture is 'Saving Face'. (and Giving Face), If the nation/ company/ family is going to 'Lose Face' (be publicly embarrassed) by not completing the project in time, then all quality and safety aspects are ignored in order to Save Face and finish on time. Reference the collapsing bridges; look at them again. Look at the vehicles lying on the floor, the ones that were crossing the bridges when it collapsed. All lorries in China are driven massively overweight. Their brakes cannot cope that is why they are as slow going downhill as they are going uphill. That is why so many are overturned and off the road. They got too fast, the brakes couldn't stop the truck and it went off on a corner. Put two of these 100 tonne trucks on one side of an under-built bridge and the undersized reinforcing bar gives way. The bridge wasn't designed for those weights as they are not supposed to be on the road. Have a look at how many illegal dams collapse each year. (how do you build a dam without anyone knowing? - you bribe everyone) Saying all of that, we LOVE the country and the people. No country is perfect! BTW, Learn Mandarin as this century will belong to China. Oh, and all the Chinese construction experts are in Africa, all the engineers and tradesmen, that leaves the farmers and unqualified to build the stuff in China. You have that backwards on your video. Our projects were always behind time due to a lack of manpower IN CHINA. This was because the experienced tradesmen were all in Africa.
I remember when I lived in Africa how even the locals were alarmed at how little concrete and rebar were going into Chinese builds. It was also obvious which ones they were because the designs were all the same and the looks clashed with the surrounding architecture.
In the Philippines you can only go on the Tollway / Highway if you have a motorcycle with at least 400 cc's. There are millions of 125cc - 175cc bikes here. They arn't hiding anything, they are doing it for safety. Most small bikes here will only do about 50 kph where the Tollway / Freeway is 100 kph.
When I lived in China a building went up next to mine. At night, trucks would deliver sand that was obviously dug from the nearby beach as sea water was pouring out of the back of the truck. They mixed that sand and salt to make concrete and cast the structural members in ditches in the ground. Imagine what that salt will do to that rebar.
@11:13 sinkholes in the middle of dry land (eg: in a city) are not usually a natural phenomenon, but caused by water from either water-mains or storm-water pipes leaking and eroding the ground around the leak. Eventually, whatever is on the surface in completely undermined and falls into the cavity, to make the sinkholes you can see. It a human infrastructure failure that causes it, not nature. @13:20 Notice that the collapsed highway bridge in Hubei was only photographed from the side where the supporting pylons can't be seen, so the lack of reinforcing steel that's supposed to be embedded in the concrete can't be seen.
I noticed there were no supporting reinforcement steel in the connections of pylon to road structure. They simply balanced the road on top of the pylons via weight. There was no mitigation for sideways movement in the structure.
@@christuxford4462 In modern bridges there is no conection between pylon and a road span. Road part is mounted on a roller or slider to allow expansion and contraction of bridge thats why you see the metal teeth on the begining and end of bridge. What is wrong with this bridge is that it should have two pylons side by side or one big one in Y shape to give it more ballance especially becouse it was curved bridge
that fallen highway that fell couldn't handle the weight of a large transformer transport and you can see all the missing rebar at the top of the column
It is all about keeping work flowing. If people are working, they are not fighting with the government. So, if a few Chinese die, the government just says, "Oh well, shit happens." Build your buildings upon the sand and see how buildings fall. It is all about keeping the worker working. The worker builds things, tears down things, removes fallen bridges/buildings, builds new ones to replace the old ones that failed. Like building cities that no one lives in, it is all about keeping the worker working and off the streets complaining. We life in a disposable world and the CCP knows how to use that to its advantage.
I can think of The Hoan bridge in Milwaukee that had a section collapse down to the harbor. Cars fell. Minnesota had a major bridge fall into the river, many deaths. The I-40 was shut down before it collapsed. Finally, in my town, the residents of a multi-story condominium were evacuated due to imminent collapse because of support corrosion. Some country roads here are nasty too, but not on the level of the one you rode on. But again, I've hit some hellish potholes here too. One knocked the alignment of my Subaru off kilter and another one did minor damage to my Honda Goldwing.
I heard the sinkholes were not seismic activity, but because there are many bore water that suck the water out from deep under the ground, and that causes a hollow cavity over time, which eventually collapses
Seeing those crappy roads in China makes me squirm. No way that low standard would be accepted here in the UK or somebody would have sued by now if their got got wrecked going over one.
the uk is a tiny country. There's a shitload more roads to maintain in China. After years of raping others for the 'empire' the uk better have their infrastructure set.
Sink holes can be a natural phenomenon, but they can also be caused by leaking underground pipes that scour away the ground. While even leaking gravity flow sewers can contribute to sink holes, high pressurized pipes leaking can really scour away earth fairly quickly.
I lived in China for almost 5 years. Spent most of my time in Hangzhou, Guangzhou and Shenzhen. They were not too bad. Shenzhen was definitely better. But all the cities had the same problems. They would build a nice new building. It would look great. Lots of granite and stone. Beautiful. And then a few years later, it would look horrible. The stone facades would be falling off, the stair treads would be broken, and coming off. They would not maintain the buildings. And the quality underneath was not good, so it was all for show. Used to get out into the country to visit different factories, and things would be pretty bad. Pretty much just like you guys said. Some of the areas, I think they had never seen a white man in person before. I would be like a celebrity, with random people walking down the street would want to take a picture with me.
1) Do you consider China as a highly developed and advanced country ? 2) How would you personally rate China (from culture to technology, architecture, food, local products, scenery/landscape, standard of living/quality of life, etc.) on a scale level of 1 to 10 ? 3) What is your overall impression with the Chinese people ? 4) If you have 3 words or more to describe China, what would it be ?
Its all about raising GDP maybe? Since the buildings are so easy to build they would rather replace buildings every 15 years than build things that last.
9:15 An overpass turned completely on it's side and cars still allowed to drive under it. You would never, ever see this in the US...unless it was the apocalypse!
Where I live they temporarily closed part of the interstate because fuel was spilled on the road. I couldn't imagine anyone here not closing the road after something like that bridge
@@jordanlaramore5430 Here they will shut down bridges if there is any report of ICE on them. Ditto oil spills or anything that creates a serious road hazard. Can you imagine letting traffic pass under a collapsed overpass!?? But life (and infrastructure) are cheap in China.
Judging by the background video, you two has the proper skills to ride in Brazilian roads, but here you can big motorcycles freely, no cc restrictions at all.
man thats some nice road at the beginning. also yes i did go racing there and thats why it looks like that now. they got the speed cameras cause they wanted to know what it even was going so fast . and where can they get one too...
The speed cameras are likely nothing to do with speed enforcement, but there for their secondary function. Those looked like digital cameras that will have ALPR/ANPR functionality. They are tracking and logging individual vehicle movements.
@@kiraangle2823 Correct answer. The water accumulates over a layer of impermeable ground and when it moves, it carries away with it the permeable ground on top, leaving a cavity.
I love the old videos I'm bingeing Matt's video for the 3rd time I'm on 303 video out of 592 it's called *The Worst Zoo in China* This video reminded me of when Winston saw a cop, made a U-turn and tried for like an hour to find a way past but couldn't find one so he ride beside a big truck past the cop i don't remember what video it was.
Just a small note about good bridge design follows. A lot of times bridge girders are not actually connected to the supports with rebars. This is to allow for small movements. If the decks were rigidly connected to the supports with rebars, cyclical stresses of motor traffic would cause fatigue in the system faster. Bridge designers have to set and fix the decks onto supports in other ways. It is okay that there are not rebars sticking out of the failed bridge decks. There was a different problem with its design or construction though, and that is why it failed.
@@dkraft The US commission (building the Three Groges was very much a world effort despite what the CCP wants to make it seem) had already warned the CCP that the mountains behind the dam are at risk of landlsides (risk also increased by the fact that the reservoir itself is so big it increased the seismic activity in the area) meaning there's a real risk of a much _much_ bigger version of the Vayont dam incident occurring there 400 million people live downstream btw, it would likely be considerably worse than Chernobyl
@@dkraft No, you shouldn't. Do you realize that about 400 million people live downstream of the dam? And most of them don't deserve to die for the government’s faulty construction.
@@Lobsterwithinternet I admire and appreciate the nao bai xing. If they do not rise up, then they will fall. I wish no harm but to CCP. Someone has to die for it to happen.
When I lived in Linfen I had a CB400 and a GSXR600. One of my Chinese friends there had an R1. We used to ride on the highways a fair bit, but we were told by the police to never leave Shanxi province or we'd be arrested. We used to cross over into Henan from time to time but only as far as Sanmenxia
That is not the case now. We ride just about everywhere. Occasionally we are told not to ride the expressways so we get off and ride the county roads. To be honest on a bike those tend to be more fun anyways.
@@jefferypowell1461 before I left Linfen and came back to Australia, the police started tackling people off bikes. They'd setup road blocks for ID checks. And when people would stop, they'd attempt to snatch the keys out of the bike. If they tried to ride away the cops would literally football tackle them off the bike. They had a tow truck parked around the corner to tow the confiscated bikes away once they'd got the keys. China being China, I doubt anyone ever got their bikes back. We used to run from them, but given there was only a small handful of foreigners there, they started to work out who we were and cause problems for our boss. So he asked us to sell our bikes in the end. It sounds like you're saying they're more lenient of bikes now? When did they start dropping the no bike laws? I left China in 2018
@@testuploads9172 in and around Beijing has been pretty easy since maybe 2013 but we have ridden in Hebei, Shanxi, Shaanxi, Gansu, and Inner Mongolia since probably 2015 ish. Not all of the time but enough. i think that if you are riding a legally plated high displacement bike and its not posted anywhere that you cant they generally have left us alone. I can remember only a couple of times being hassled. Don’t ride in Xi’an though. Your looking for trouble lol.
Greeting. I've been following your channel for a while now and I have a question. I live in Croatia and in 2018 the Chinese company China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC), which is financed with European funds, has started the construction of a large bridge on the Adriatic coast (Peljesac Bridge). According to what you said, I am interested in whether we should be worried in Croatia, since the bridge is nearing the end of construction and will be open to traffic in the summer of 2022, at the beginning of the tourist season. Thank you and greetings from Croatia.
I doubt it will be a problem. There will be Croatian contractors and Croatian workers who should sound an alarm if there was a poor design, cheap materials etc.
It's known as the "River Dragon" and apparently already poses a potential future problem. There's lots of safety speculation around the net that makes for interesting reading.
That Florida building (Champlain Tower) that collapsed was true due to the poor maintenance. The building was built 1930 and due for decaying sewage system. However, the building was there for many many years not like the building that collapses in China that were erected just a year, some less than a year ago.
If such occurrences are routine, it is not hard to imagine a 2001/9/11 a day in China due to shoddy building codes. On second thoughts, 1 million negligent homicides a year even in a country of < 1400 million would sound unbelievably excessive.
The tower's failure is just another case of Florida corruption. Engineers and property owners all knew the building was defective and also the public agencies certifying that it passed. A little pay off, a sympathetic judge and incompetent city counsels is all you need to get away with anything in the state. Thousands of other buildings in the state have similar defects.
Just reinforces the lack of concern the CCP has towards of the citizens of China. Thousands of years ago the Sumerians had law concerning shoddy construction to protect their citizens. Building achievements to show face is irrelevant to the lack of to the citizens they represent.
Those dirt roads brings back bad memories…… about 10 years ago I joined a bus trip to Inner Mongolia from departing from Beijing. Entire bus was foreign students and guess what? Because of some national event or something , we are not allowed on the high way. The bus didn’t even have window smashers. It was this brutal dirt road for 6 hours straight.
@@marks3750 Emergency hammers that are designed to break the safety windows on buses in the event of an emergency like flipping over or a fire or crash.
Cement is the most crucial ingredient in concrete. It's also the most expensive. Even with a complete installation of rebar if the concrete has been mixed with a deficient amount of cement then the structure will soon collapse.
My previous employer worked with a couple of engineering centers in China. We had a program that brought Chinese engineers to the US, and vice-versa. I befriended one and we stayed in touch for some time after she returned home. She told me of horrible things that the government does in response to emergencies, like bulldozing over ruins left in the aftermath of some catastrophe without recovering the bodies, leaving the bones to be found by children when the site is redeveloped. One can only hope that survivors were rescued. So when you mentioned that they tried to cover the wreckage of a train, it occurred to me that it must be a policy. Most of our Chinese colleagues were assiduously nonpolitical to all appearances, but I know some really want China to change. I have not heard from my friend in years, I hope she's okay.
I just read a Japanese news article about a recently collapsed bridge in China, thank you for informing about this issue. - I do not agree with all of your videos, but I appreciate it if you point out issues in a not too demonizing kind of way!
Sadly the reality are actually much more evil than what they say. Just look at PengShuai, literally put up an act while her appearance looked so tired and scared. That’s just worst.
Your videos keep reminding me that the concept of 'face' seems to be all important in C. Have to keep that in mind. Also, keep them coming, really enjoying these
The bridges in Louisiana are terrifying. I drove through Shreveport once and it's the only time I've been scared on an interstates bridge. A lot of the bridges that cross the freeway are reduced weight limits due to disrepair.
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@@delbomb3131 Louisiana is the worst state in the US
As someone who works in project management, I can say that the quality of the work depends on the client side as well, the Chinese contractors can't cut corners if proper inspections are carried correctly and thoroughly to the standards, I mean here international standards ASTM, ISO etc, not Chinese one, in addition to local standards for different environment and weather. In the end the Client will have to review and approve all the designs and constructions plan, and believe me, when it comes to Chinese contractors, you MUST triple check everything.
They will try to cheat. I used to work for an importer. We imported products from China. They were supposed to use a particular finish on the product. After catching them doing a few "accidental" wrong things, I had to be there to oversee the production of our products. I happened to walk into a back room one time and found them emptying 5 gallon buckets of Chinese finish into the empty 5 gallon buckets of the European finish that was to go onto our products. Even though I saw them bring the cans out and fill the machines with them, they were just putting the Chinese finish in them in the back room. Stuff like that happens all the time. It is endemic.
This is my favourite video of all of your channels put together. I love the riding on bikes stuff but combined with infrastructure failures in China is awesome 😎
It would be good to know if China's military machines are built to such low standards. Can you guys do a video on that ? I sort of doubt it. But any ideas on that ?
9:08 In all fairness. This bridge' integrity was fine until a maniac decided it was a good idea to run his 200 ton truck transporting a power grid transformer on to the overpass. Only to be met by workers occupying the center lane halfway across directing the truck to pass on the emergency lane of the very edge right side of the deck. Tipping the deck with four times the maximum upper load the bridge was constructed for. This accident was a human error.
These flyovers are made to withstand total standstill traffic i.e. any number of vehicles standing on it on any section, or all of it. That amounts to much more than 400 tonnes. That's just a silly excuse.
About the sinkholes in China, I have also heard that part of the reason for the increasing commonality of sinkholes is overextraction of water from the local aquifer.
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You guys get some new shocks afterwards?
I know China is like your Shtick, if you guys decide to do a road tour of the US and come to Indy, the home of Speed (aka Naptown) I'll gladly buy you a beer and show you around. This city is beautiful and doesnt fall apart.
And u pls go and travel again :)
@@feuerherz007 Yeah, you'd think that they could at least hit the China-Towns of the US or wherever they are.
Actually, I hope they are doing that now, and will tell us only after they are done. I'd hate to see them get ambushed by CCP operatives.
I’ve heard some people joke that Hollywood should go film superhero movies in China so they can have characters punch through buildings without needing any CGI
Have you guys seen Shaolin monks performing kung-fu tricks by putting spear against their throat and survived unharmed? Wonder if their tricks would ever work if they had used spear made using European or American standard?
@@abitgeekie
It will be an interesting spectacle to say the least.
That's actually an old carny trick. Penn & Teller demo'd it in one of their Bulls Hit episodes.
Oooh good idea.
lmao, thats hilarious
Question: Do they keep good records? I'm in Japan, and when a piece of concrete fell off of a structure along a rail line, they went back in the records and visited the workmen from that site 10~15 years previous, asked all sorts of questions. They also found the supervisors and officials that signed off on the project... and there were consequences. Re-testing on buildings, at times tearing them down and forcing rebuilding at the construction company's cost sort of thing, which REALLY incentivises people to do good, accurate, durable work..
Japan has international reputation for quality. Almost anything Japanese or German raises few questions about quality. Old 4 wheel drive Toyotas now sell more than when they were purchased. People know they hold up.
I guess leaving in the country with the most amount of natural disasters adds up to the quality
Well, they obviously did not do well with Fukushima. On the other hand, I have my second Toyota Prius and it has been pretty reliable.
@@karelmatejka9710 at least nobody died in Fukushima that's already a good result but yes they could do better
@@viacheslavromanov3098 Let us hope, they learned from it. Greetings from The Czech Republic Viacheslav.
I agree with you that Taipei is a modern but old city. You can have new construction right next to buildings that have been in place for a very long time. When the Nationals exiled to Taiwan, they did not destroy the history of the city or the island. They kept the history of the Chinese and the Taiwanese in tact. You can walk from super modern to a historical place and back in the space of a few blocks. It's an amazing place to visit.
As a outsider the ccp destroyed the language in China and also destroyed the culture. So its up to Chinese people to learn from the taiwanese people how to be truly Chinese
Very poor video quality. Content, video editing... are you even trying? And wtf was that 80s christmas video reference? I used to show your videos to friends to show how shitty china is. Right now you dont add anything to the conversation
@@pablo1262 what are you complaining about? Did you hire these guys to satisfy you?
@@pablo1262 just not sure why you are so upset.
It's better to maintain old structure than to build new structure.
I watched an interview with a Chinese construction worker who said that they always have a "bidding war" on big construction sites on which companies can get it done the quickest and cheapest.
The deadlines are set in unreasonable timelines because of that and since they have lowered their prices so dramatically to win the bid in the first place they need to use shit material.
imagining this kinda standards in germany is giving me illness, makes me appreciate my country way more than I thought I could. Found u guys half a year ago and I’m happy to say, I’m still far away from having seen all your videos.
Thank you for this amazing content, be safe and stay blessed 🫶🏼
I have a friend who worked a lot in China, travelled to many second/third tier cities. He says that Chinese cities, especially the "new" places, are "good from far, but far from good". I think that was brilliant because it illustrates perfectly the "new but cheap" architecture sprouting around the country you guys talk about in here.
I think that analogy can be applied to many countries in the Western world too. Lets not kid ourselves.. It's not a China problem alone..
@@haydonditchburn2194 Look, wumao
@@haydonditchburn2194 yeah, suuure, I've seen Chinese construction quality in kazakhstan and I live in Europe now. There is a very big difference
@@haydonditchburn2194 what are you counting as 'western' here? I live in a 3rd world country and you don't get that bs construction here. You'll have to go to very CORRUPT (not necessarily poor) countries to get entire buildings tipping over every other day lol.
@@ShaferHart Which country are you from?
I get the impression that China will take someone else's well thought idea, make something that appears the same, but they cut out all the theory and reasoning behind the build and focus on appearance. And their product naturally sucks because of this.
Exactly... the configuration of their nervous system allows them to be amazing players and memory based skills, but when it comes to context, creativity and independent thinking they got behind, very very far bahind, from Europeans.
Their coding is the same thing.
Re: the OP. It's a perfect metaphor for their government
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 I suspect that this is likely due to culture and worldview differences (a memetic difference) that value conformity over innovation, rather than genetic difference, but since memes (not the "internet funny" kind, but rather "transmissible idea", which is why the internet type of memes are called memes in the first place) also alter the central nervous system (more specifically the brain) I suppose we agree. Then again, I could also be wrong and it could be genetic differences.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Finally someone calls it, even if a very un PC comment related to eugenics. But the truth.
I'm an engineer in Canada. There is a constant conflict between regulation and getting the job done. This is what makes infrastructure safer. It seems like this constant conflict or tension is necessary in the system to make it better.
Been there; done that.
Quite.
Either one having too much sway is bad for everyone.
@Hoàng Lăng jealous?
@Hoàng Lăng so you're sour. Ok
In my experience, Canadian standards are much more restrictive than U.S. standards, to the point where it really strongly seems like trade protectionism.
@@Toshinben what does structural integrity have to do with trade protectionism?
But what is crazy is how American building code still refuse to take into account of hurricanes so year after year huge swaths of land is still leveled because they still allow people to build match stick houses instead of proper steel and concrete structures that can withstand tornadoes!
The Florida condo collapse was so rare here in the US that is was shocking and unbelievable that it happened ... as it should be.
Yeah and the building was over 50 years old and built on the beach where it floods from hurricanes which likely did nothing to help it's stability.
It was an utterly rare occurrence for us as buildings never collapse, hell I use to live in a building that was over 150 years old and it still had trees that were used for the beams of the house that ran the length of the building in the basement with bark still on it in places. The place was sound as a rock still (though it did weird some people out because it made a lot of odd noises at night when the house settled so they thought it was haunted sometimes)
Honestly its shocking it doesnt happen more.
@@worndown8280 Not really -- here's why: I'm a residential architect, and I know how strong and regulated our design and construction industry is. But the #1 reason we don't have buildings falling down more is ... lawyers. I did one condominium project back in 2006, and the only way to design the building was to think about how I could get sued, and design against that. It was not enjoyable, so I never did another project that fell under commercial construction legal exposure. Residential architecture is much more lax because it's much simpler compared to commercial buildings. We have an incredibly safe system of checks and balances that makes it extremely difficult to build a bad building here in the US.
I have a few friends who point to the condo collapse as proof the US has problems and we need to follow China's example. Any video evidence of things happening in China are right-wing conspiracies to them. Its really insane.
@@TheZoePath I was speaking purely from a statistical standpoint. Statistically in a nation as large as ours is, with many large cities having builds that are 40 plus years old, that we dont have an event like this once every few years or even decades is statistically staggering. Regardless of the over site.
I could say the same thing about bridges.
Was taking the subway/train into Shanghai one time. A lady came walking down the isle in in the subway train with a kid in tow. The kid was horribly disfigured. Looked like he had been in a serious fire. With as much of the scaring covering his head and shirtless body, I was really surprised that he survived. After they passed, my wife asked about him, and evidently they spend all day going up and down in the trains begging for money. Turns out that it actually was not her child. She had bought him off of someone else to use for begging.
And the child was probably burned on purpose
0:11 because theyre not just speed cameras, theyre surveillance cameras
It says a lot when a government first interest is to spend money on surveillance over a road rather than maintaining it.
I was just going to type this and you beat me to it. Spot on!
On the topic of sinkholes. In populated areas, sinkholes are often cause by improperly built or rundown sewage and water pipes. Underground leakage can hollow out large areas of ground which eventually collapse into a sinkhole.
Can't say this is the case in China, but letting things fall into disrepair and ruin kind of fits into China's MO.
also careless pumping of ground water
Sooo, they have the same motto as my county....On a good day we strive for half a-zz, wish we had more good days.
Oh no no no. You see those cctv cam, thoose are pretty new and abundant sheeeeshhh evrything is just fine brother
Had one open up right across the street from me. Swallowed up two large trees and part of the road. Took them a couple months to fix it.
Plus mining coal like crazy and then a big rain storm comes.
Visited Vanuatu several years ago. Road from city to airport had 3/4 of it built by NZ company 5 years ago in perfect condition and rest built 6 months ago by ccp and falling to pieces.
Take a video and show me how it's broken
Love your old stuff. A bit of nostalgia which is strangely rather comforting
I'm in Morocco and there's definitely a similar model, shiny highways and high speed trains... but still I've never seen a main road in THAT condition. Even if you end up sent to an unpaved road, the gravel is spread well so you can still do 50 or 70.
I once went to China for work and stayed in 6 star hotel - the light on the nightstand does not work so I check what's wrong with it (being an electrical engineer and all that), followed the cord and found that the socket underneath the nightstand is rigged directly to the power cables in the wall with exposed wires and they don't even bother to put a face plate to cover the hole in the wall cos from top you can't see anything. Needless to say I didn't touch that crap for the rest of the trip cos I was afraid I'd die from electrical shock. There's a Chinese proverb which describe these crap all around China - 金玉其外, 敗絮其中 - shiny on the outside, rotten on the inside.
Replace the 其 with 是 and it explains why so many are happy to expatriate and naturalize away from the Middle Kingdom.
Like a mud flap ( shiny on the top but all shit underneath)
On point as a fellow EE. No one in China cares about safety let alone QC. I started traveling to China when CCP promised freedom and privatization. My brother was so euphoric he asked his company to transfer there. After witnessing 30+ years of personal and family experience, I gave up my hope. The brazen and widespread corruptions, non existent of food safety and sanitation enforcement…etc. it broke my heart to see carnage inflicted on citizens. Thanks to Winston and Matthew for exposing the ugly snake called CCP.
Went to an upscale hotel and attempted to plug my phone into an electrical outlet… The plug friggin’ melted.
Hey guys, I lived in Guangzhou for 13 years, founded an MC there. In fact one of my club brothers Daniel bought one of your bikes, rode it all the way back to Guangzhou. I agree with all of your views on China 100%, man could I tell you guys some stories. Keep it guys you're doing a great job getting the truth out.
a part of the problem with sinkholes is that they've built these massive concrete jungles without care about drainage and as you mentioned, not caring about the geology, and water erodes under the cement and it collapses
Make sense
I recall stories from expat engineers in China about this sort of thing. One Chinese outfit they worked with would recycle most of the rebar after the form was inspected and before pouring concrete. The engineers learned to watch the pour before signing off.
I went to Tibet about a decade ago and according to my Tibetan guide, the CCP has the most genius/devilish speed cam scheme in Tibet. They installed hundreds of these metal boxes that is supposed to hold speed cameras along the road. so you have a box every few hundred meters, but they only had two or three cameras for the entire stretch and they swap the position of the cameras everyday. so you'll never know where the camera is going to be. they then kept the speed limit so low that it takes a long time to get anywhere (Tibet is huge).
Happens in Brazil too. We just missed one, and vehicles were plunging into a deep gorge for hours before they found the bridge had failed..
Wow.
"Why Are Bridges in China Falling Down?" Because china envied the the Brits in the song "London Bridge is falling down" and they said 'That's nothing!! Watch this!!!'
This is one of the main reasons why I recently fled Mainland China. A whole lot of China's infrastructure looks good enough or even shiny from just the right distance, from far enough away. It looks good from a drone or tourist photoshoot zone.
Get closer and see that the uneven and shoddy lines, the botched concrete, then get closer and see the crumble, the ugly patch jobs, then realize this building/bridge/sidewalk is only 6 years old. Over the next decade, collapses, sinkholes, just the entire general disrepair, elevator deaths, injuries, gas explosions will what destroys, degenerates and wrecks Mainland China back into a kind of massive Brazilian Favela for the rest of the 21st century.
Beijing, shanghai, shenzhen ?
Perhaps that will make the Chinese get rid of these commie parasites at last.
@@BountyFlamorYou show us how it's done, big guy. I share your exasperation but think about what you're saying. Apart from Tank Man, most people don't do martydom with shopping bags. It's not the way the limbic system works. If they do, they usually just get hosed off the cobblestones. The evil of the Commo-fascists is they'll come in on the back of general complaint and disagreement, claiming to be on the side of the little guy, then they'll point bigger guns at everyone for a century behind a 'Great' Firewall and rattle sabres at the neighbours while quietly syphoning the bank.
Ironically, no rule of law means construction companies are not held liable for failing to meet established building standards. This is the key problem in China.
great you are gone, if you don't like it here, you can leave
As an Engineer, seeing these designs makes me feel ill. The potential loss of life is tremendous and frustrating because it is preventable.
Not been this channel for a while and loved watching ADV China before.
Funny you should mention Belt and Road countries. That already happened in Kenya with Chinese-built bridges and roads in Uganda. And that's the tip of the iceburg with China leading all sorts of infrastructure projects. Those poor African nations, being taken advantage of.
yeah just like how the Eurpoeans saved aftica right?
Do you have evidence of Chinese built bridges collapsing in Kenya?
The Chinese built the Tanzam railway as a cooperative project in the 1970's when China was poor and the 'Wesr' supported Rhodesia and apartheid South Africa.
Yep. China comes in, basically makes the country sign away their soul to get their help, and gives huge bribes out to make it all go smoothly with the government officials.
@@oceandweller2314 wrong
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I am waiting for the JaYoe Nation Van Life collaboration video, where they buy and restore a class van on their classic car restoration channel. 😃😃😃
Holy shit when I looked at the bridge I thought it looks familiar, it’s right at my hometown. It’s the main Highway connecting Huangshi to Wuhan, I remember seeing a lot of new highway constructions sprout up around 2012 in that region. Now the accidents are finally catching up.
I worked for a hi-tech Taiwan company and was shooting video in our Kunshan factory in mainland China. One area was devoted to various machines that tortured products: dead drop onto concrete, salt-water spray (for hours), hot-cold cycling, and shaker tables. The young lady showing me around explained that we use the shaker tables to simulate products riding on a truck for a couple weeks, over terrible Chinese roads!
Yous guys are da best. You can't do anything to discourage me from wanting to learn Chinese. If anything, knowing you can learn Chinese and keep your soul intact inspires me even more. One day I am going to say I finally managed to learn Chinese because you two inspired me. Ni shi wo de ge ge.
Learning different languages is great, their not trying to stop you
That sinkhole looks like something from the loony toons.
Also, the building in FL was from a leaking pool that people ignored, not sure why but i dont think that is anything to be compared to China's poor quality engineering when their stuff just naturally falls down.
As a Chinese economist pointed out all the buildings and infrastructure projects built in the last 20 years will collapse in the next 30 to 50 years and all the money and resources spent to build them will have been wasted.
Who is that economist?
@@juliusadams7527 Lei's Real Talk posted a video of Larry Ping Lang saying this, but I didn't find it just now. She shows him being similarly critical in some videos that are still up.
They may not last 10 more years.
It's called 'job creation'!
Might be the same in the middle East (Persian Gulf). Designed well but the workers doing the building errrh. Not sure. Spain has a problem with buildings built for the tourist boom in the 1960s and 1970s. Bits falling off
The first sequence at the beginning with the potholes all over the road with all the cameras prove that China has little interest in safety or catching speeders, etc; but rather to use its AI and cameras to track everyones movements. First, you don't need anywhere near those numbers of cameras to catch cars speeding. Second, its only viable purpose could be to keep track of everyones location. Only those with connections, especially to Winieh the Pooh, are above the law in China. Just look at Peng Shuan (sp). I don't beleive anything she has said or written since dissapearing. Indeed, that last genuine post of hers exposing the rape is the only thing that can be trusted. WTA, so far did well (unless they let the ccp off due to what is clearly blackmail and/or extortion by the state to ensure Peng does repeat the truth. As long as she has family, or herself, is in China-nothing can be trusted by her statements since her family is under direct threat. IOS, help that poor girl!
Everything in China has to do with influence. EVERYTHING is layers, if you are on the bottom you get the shitty end of the stick. Asia in general is like that, it is sort of reverse Confucianism.
I was about to say the same - those are not speed cameras. An array of cameras for every lane (albeit not existing here) are either toll or surveillance. Here in the EU it's exacty like that and speed cameras are single and on a pole next to the road. Of course, toll and surveillance cameras can also monitor speed but that's not their main feature.
@@alatus7242
Most main roads in China are dual or three lane carriageways. ONE camera for each lane. The cameras flash everytime a car goes faster than usual. There are similar type cameras, above the roads, in the U.K as I have seen them on some dual carriageways.
@@teflerchina.2987 Pure speed cameras monitor many lanes simultaneously since it does not matter much at what angle they are because the speed is measured either with a laser or radar Doppler or purely digitally by frames. All they need is to catch the license plate. Camera arrays over each lane however are placed so that they have a good frontal view on each car in order to observe windshield stickers for toll, insurance, etc. or run OCR on license plates and check their status online. Measuring speed and surveillance is just an added option on some. The speed cameras here are mainly mobile and deployed at random, otherwise drivers quickly learn where they are and slow down, so they catch only those who are oblivious or distracted. What's the point of such large installations with multimple cameras that are obvious from a km away? Of course most drivers will slow down at them which defeats the whole purpose.
Honestly I'd like to see how many countries world wide are sick enough of China's bullshit to go to war. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were on our side this time.
living in China for 8 months I was amazed at how much of the provincial landscape looks like something straight out of the Fallout games
In 20 years it will look like some post-soviet Russia :-)
@@Richard-Vlk Post-Soviet Russia doesn't have shoddy construction on that level. Not even countries like Vietnam do.
Speaking of a nation looking like the Fallout games, the UK government almost handed the building of a major nuclear power plant to the Chinese
@@trevtall1094 Haha! Yeah I read about that. Imagine the nightmare that would be. I can see it in the papers now. UK held to ransom! China remotely flips the OFF switch! Britain owes billions!!! Spyware found in reactor software! Reactor collapses, China blames Taylor-Wimpy, etc. I was just hoping our Government was astute and foresighted enough to say "NO!!"
@@sneakyglowormBoris was the one who stopped the deal. And considering the recent news of Jeremy Hunt (Tory MP, ex Foreign Secretary and Health Minister) and his Chinese wive presenting on a new CCP propaganda news channel it's clear who was pushing CCPs agenda
It is normal for a bridge deck to be separate from the support columns / piers. A bearing, either rubber or steel, is between the bottom of the deck and the top of the pier, it allows to deck and columns to move independently of each other. That part of the design is ok, the deck falling off the piers is most certainly not.
That was the point. Bridges and roads collapsed when they should not.
Yea I was looking like that and it looks like kids blocks stacked up.
Honestly trucks do a lot of damage to roads, whether the truck is crappy or not. A fully loaded 18-wheeler will do approximately 2000x more damage to the asphalt than your typical American car. That's why roads in industrial areas are often in much rougher shape than in residential areas that get minimal truck traffic. I can see why they wouldn't want to bother maintaining a road if the trucks keep destroying it, especially if the trucks are able to handle all the potholes. Sucks that the motorcycles can't go on the highways though.
That whole country sucks man what are you talking about these people do not give a flying fuck about infrastructure without a ponzi scheme behind it
Trucks are indeed heavy, that's why it's common sense to build roads that can handle those loads. And punish truckers that are overloaded.
Also Chinese trucks cannot handle potholes. With most of them, the chassis breaks in half after 6 months.
@@neovenom9833 maybe they should put more effort into maintaining truck roads then. But even here in Canada where they have truck weighing stations and stuff, roads in industrial areas have to get repaved more often then residential streets, and will have deep grooves from the weight of the trucks (my area is usually pretty good about filling potholes though).
@@aersn4locs said like a true bigot
In the U.S. we have our infrastructure problems, but most are from infrastructure built 50 or more years ago. Alot of this infrastructure is safe but in needs of repairs to keep it that way for the long run. From what I have seen about the way China builds infrastructure and buildings in general, I figure you have to cut that down to at best half if not a third or less of a lifespan for infrastructure and building without major problems or major investment in repairs. Since a lot of China's boom was from the early 2000s, that means that in about five years, and it seams in many cases far earlier, a lot of infrastructure or buildings will start to be in a condition that major repairs will be needed, or the infrastructure and buildings will need to be replaced. How can a country build more wealth when it has to go back and replace what is failing in such massive quantities. In 10 years it will be interesting to see the state China is in when a large part of its buildings reach their probable lifespan.
Yes you have tired that long and still No highspeed train. About the speed cameras. The primary reason is not to check speed it’s to check you and what you do. Spy camera for the government I would say
A thank you--- to the people who made the new infrastructure bill possible. 2021
The major difference between the US and China:
What is now rotten was built at different times.
We've had collapsed bridges in the US as well....but they are usually over 100 years old and not maintained properly.
Yeah we're getting there.
Or built by feminists
My hometown is on a swamp. It's been here for over 1500 years, although obviously it didn't start rapidly growing until relatively recently.
In 27 years of my life we've had 2 small sinkholes, both basically near a river, and even in the early-high middle ages they knew how stabilise the ground (so did the ancient Chinese by the way) to prevent buildings from collapsing. At worst when construction was a bit rushed (like in case of our basilica) the whole building would just slightly set, pushing the foundation a few feet down and requiring the entrance to be enlarged lol
I worked in China in construction for 18 months. Just like in Russia they skip on the materials and put the savings into their pockets. The Quality control certificates are paid for and if a big company needs a world renowned Quality control company to sign off their work (oil and gas) they get the Russian office and bribe the inspectors.
Another factor that you haven't mentioned in Chinese culture is 'Saving Face'. (and Giving Face),
If the nation/ company/ family is going to 'Lose Face' (be publicly embarrassed) by not completing the project in time, then all quality and safety aspects are ignored in order to Save Face and finish on time.
Reference the collapsing bridges; look at them again. Look at the vehicles lying on the floor, the ones that were crossing the bridges when it collapsed.
All lorries in China are driven massively overweight. Their brakes cannot cope that is why they are as slow going downhill as they are going uphill. That is why so many are overturned and off the road. They got too fast, the brakes couldn't stop the truck and it went off on a corner.
Put two of these 100 tonne trucks on one side of an under-built bridge and the undersized reinforcing bar gives way. The bridge wasn't designed for those weights as they are not supposed to be on the road.
Have a look at how many illegal dams collapse each year. (how do you build a dam without anyone knowing? - you bribe everyone)
Saying all of that, we LOVE the country and the people.
No country is perfect!
BTW, Learn Mandarin as this century will belong to China.
Oh, and all the Chinese construction experts are in Africa, all the engineers and tradesmen, that leaves the farmers and unqualified to build the stuff in China. You have that backwards on your video. Our projects were always behind time due to a lack of manpower IN CHINA. This was because the experienced tradesmen were all in Africa.
I remember when I lived in Africa how even the locals were alarmed at how little concrete and rebar were going into Chinese builds. It was also obvious which ones they were because the designs were all the same and the looks clashed with the surrounding architecture.
Yup they bribe their way into these countries.
I remember suffering trhough these kinds of roads. It was awful.
Tofu Building Strikes Again.
In the Philippines you can only go on the Tollway / Highway if you have a motorcycle with at least 400 cc's. There are millions of 125cc - 175cc bikes here. They arn't hiding anything, they are doing it for safety. Most small bikes here will only do about 50 kph where the Tollway / Freeway is 100 kph.
When I lived in China a building went up next to mine. At night, trucks would deliver sand that was obviously dug from the nearby beach as sea water was pouring out of the back of the truck. They mixed that sand and salt to make concrete and cast the structural members in ditches in the ground. Imagine what that salt will do to that rebar.
and taking into consideration the poor quality of the rebar... total failure. This one sends chills down the spine.
@11:13 sinkholes in the middle of dry land (eg: in a city) are not usually a natural phenomenon, but caused by water from either water-mains or storm-water pipes leaking and eroding the ground around the leak. Eventually, whatever is on the surface in completely undermined and falls into the cavity, to make the sinkholes you can see.
It a human infrastructure failure that causes it, not nature.
@13:20 Notice that the collapsed highway bridge in Hubei was only photographed from the side where the supporting pylons can't be seen, so the lack of reinforcing steel that's supposed to be embedded in the concrete can't be seen.
I noticed there were no supporting reinforcement steel in the connections of pylon to road structure. They simply balanced the road on top of the pylons via weight. There was no mitigation for sideways movement in the structure.
@@christuxford4462 In modern bridges there is no conection between pylon and a road span. Road part is mounted on a roller or slider to allow expansion and contraction of bridge thats why you see the metal teeth on the begining and end of bridge. What is wrong with this bridge is that it should have two pylons side by side or one big one in Y shape to give it more ballance especially becouse it was curved bridge
Yeah, concrete is completely shit without an aggregate.
@@christuxford4462What exactly is your background and level of expertise in bridge bearing design?
that fallen highway that fell couldn't handle the weight of a large transformer transport and you can see all the missing rebar at the top of the column
It is all about keeping work flowing. If people are working, they are not fighting with the government. So, if a few Chinese die, the government just says, "Oh well, shit happens." Build your buildings upon the sand and see how buildings fall. It is all about keeping the worker working. The worker builds things, tears down things, removes fallen bridges/buildings, builds new ones to replace the old ones that failed. Like building cities that no one lives in, it is all about keeping the worker working and off the streets complaining. We life in a disposable world and the CCP knows how to use that to its advantage.
So they use the Broken Window Fallacy as an economic model, interesting.
I can think of The Hoan bridge in Milwaukee that had a section collapse down to the harbor. Cars fell. Minnesota had a major bridge fall into the river, many deaths. The I-40 was shut down before it collapsed. Finally, in my town, the residents of a multi-story condominium were evacuated due to imminent collapse because of support corrosion. Some country roads here are nasty too, but not on the level of the one you rode on. But again, I've hit some hellish potholes here too. One knocked the alignment of my Subaru off kilter and another one did minor damage to my Honda Goldwing.
No cars fell from the Hoan. The compromised road section was removed with explosives.
Subaru are for off-roads and I would expect their suspension to be a lot stronger than my 2020 Prius AWD XLE
I heard the sinkholes were not seismic activity, but because there are many bore water that suck the water out from deep under the ground, and that causes a hollow cavity over time, which eventually collapses
0:00 I bet that on paper, this road is paved & in pristine condition.
Seeing those crappy roads in China makes me squirm. No way that low standard would be accepted here in the UK or somebody would have sued by now if their got got wrecked going over one.
That road in the video was under resurfacing and happened years ago . He doesn't mention that though.
the uk is a tiny country. There's a shitload more roads to maintain in China. After years of raping others for the 'empire' the uk better have their infrastructure set.
@@teflerchina.2987 exactly. The amount of disinformation these two dudes puts out is really disappointing.
@@oceandweller2314 We have and it's lovely thank you. Compare the US roads then.
@@jefferypowell1461 ok wumaos
I love Taiwan architecture so much I base my game on Taiwain cities
Where can I buy the gayme?
Sink holes can be a natural phenomenon, but they can also be caused by leaking underground pipes that scour away the ground. While even leaking gravity flow sewers can contribute to sink holes, high pressurized pipes leaking can really scour away earth fairly quickly.
I lived in China for almost 5 years. Spent most of my time in Hangzhou, Guangzhou and Shenzhen. They were not too bad. Shenzhen was definitely better. But all the cities had the same problems. They would build a nice new building. It would look great. Lots of granite and stone. Beautiful. And then a few years later, it would look horrible. The stone facades would be falling off, the stair treads would be broken, and coming off. They would not maintain the buildings. And the quality underneath was not good, so it was all for show.
Used to get out into the country to visit different factories, and things would be pretty bad. Pretty much just like you guys said. Some of the areas, I think they had never seen a white man in person before. I would be like a celebrity, with random people walking down the street would want to take a picture with me.
1) Do you consider China as a highly developed and advanced country ?
2) How would you personally rate China (from culture to technology, architecture, food, local products, scenery/landscape, standard of living/quality of life, etc.) on a scale level of 1 to 10 ?
3) What is your overall impression with the Chinese people ?
4) If you have 3 words or more to describe China, what would it be ?
Its all about raising GDP maybe? Since the buildings are so easy to build they would rather replace buildings every 15 years than build things that last.
9:15 An overpass turned completely on it's side and cars still allowed to drive under it. You would never, ever see this in the US...unless it was the apocalypse!
Where I live they temporarily closed part of the interstate because fuel was spilled on the road. I couldn't imagine anyone here not closing the road after something like that bridge
@@jordanlaramore5430 Here they will shut down bridges if there is any report of ICE on them. Ditto oil spills or anything that creates a serious road hazard. Can you imagine letting traffic pass under a collapsed overpass!?? But life (and infrastructure) are cheap in China.
cCP could care less about dead bodies!
Judging by the background video, you two has the proper skills to ride in Brazilian roads, but here you can big motorcycles freely, no cc restrictions at all.
ADV Brazil asap! 😁
I can see them on Harley Pan Americans.
@@theaveragejoe5781 I always say everyone should visit Brazil at least once!
Many sinkholes are caused by the overuse of the watertable. When they remove all that water the ground settles slowly then collapses
man thats some nice road at the beginning.
also yes i did go racing there and thats why it looks like that now.
they got the speed cameras cause they wanted to know what it even was going so fast . and where can they get one too...
The speed cameras are likely nothing to do with speed enforcement, but there for their secondary function. Those looked like digital cameras that will have ALPR/ANPR functionality. They are tracking and logging individual vehicle movements.
I thought a lot of the sink holes were caused by ground water being pumped out?
Thanks for another interesting show guys.
they are often caused by draining groundwater for sure
Water seeps in, saturates and finds an escape taking the soil with it as i understand
@@kiraangle2823 Correct answer. The water accumulates over a layer of impermeable ground and when it moves, it carries away with it the permeable ground on top, leaving a cavity.
Yup China pulls incredible amounts of fresh water out of the ground for industry, leaving huge voids.
In my country we call it Chinesium.
The least durable substance known to man
I love the old videos I'm bingeing Matt's video for the 3rd time I'm on 303 video out of 592 it's called *The Worst Zoo in China* This video reminded me of when Winston saw a cop, made a U-turn and tried for like an hour to find a way past but couldn't find one so he ride beside a big truck past the cop i don't remember what video it was.
You guys showed a McGee & Me clip!
You win! You win the Internet for even knowing about that series!
Just a small note about good bridge design follows. A lot of times bridge girders are not actually connected to the supports with rebars. This is to allow for small movements. If the decks were rigidly connected to the supports with rebars, cyclical stresses of motor traffic would cause fatigue in the system faster. Bridge designers have to set and fix the decks onto supports in other ways. It is okay that there are not rebars sticking out of the failed bridge decks. There was a different problem with its design or construction though, and that is why it failed.
Then what caused the collapse?
Makes me wonder about the Three Gorges Dam.
We can only hope. That would be the Chernobyl of the East.
@@dkraft The US commission (building the Three Groges was very much a world effort despite what the CCP wants to make it seem) had already warned the CCP that the mountains behind the dam are at risk of landlsides (risk also increased by the fact that the reservoir itself is so big it increased the seismic activity in the area) meaning there's a real risk of a much _much_ bigger version of the Vayont dam incident occurring there
400 million people live downstream btw, it would likely be considerably worse than Chernobyl
@@dkraft No, you shouldn't.
Do you realize that about 400 million people live downstream of the dam? And most of them don't deserve to die for the government’s faulty construction.
@@Lobsterwithinternet I admire and appreciate the nao bai xing. If they do not rise up, then they will fall. I wish no harm but to CCP. Someone has to die for it to happen.
well it got tested massively in the last floods and nothing happened.
When I lived in Linfen I had a CB400 and a GSXR600. One of my Chinese friends there had an R1. We used to ride on the highways a fair bit, but we were told by the police to never leave Shanxi province or we'd be arrested. We used to cross over into Henan from time to time but only as far as Sanmenxia
That is not the case now. We ride just about everywhere. Occasionally we are told not to ride the expressways so we get off and ride the county roads. To be honest on a bike those tend to be more fun anyways.
@@jefferypowell1461 before I left Linfen and came back to Australia, the police started tackling people off bikes. They'd setup road blocks for ID checks. And when people would stop, they'd attempt to snatch the keys out of the bike. If they tried to ride away the cops would literally football tackle them off the bike. They had a tow truck parked around the corner to tow the confiscated bikes away once they'd got the keys. China being China, I doubt anyone ever got their bikes back. We used to run from them, but given there was only a small handful of foreigners there, they started to work out who we were and cause problems for our boss. So he asked us to sell our bikes in the end. It sounds like you're saying they're more lenient of bikes now? When did they start dropping the no bike laws? I left China in 2018
@@testuploads9172 in and around Beijing has been pretty easy since maybe 2013 but we have ridden in Hebei, Shanxi, Shaanxi, Gansu, and Inner Mongolia since probably 2015 ish. Not all of the time but enough. i think that if you are riding a legally plated high displacement bike and its not posted anywhere that you cant they generally have left us alone. I can remember only a couple of times being hassled. Don’t ride in Xi’an though. Your looking for trouble lol.
As an engineer I would not recommend driving under a collapsed bridge... wtf is the road even open for!!!
You used a Mcgee and Me clip...wow thats a throwback.
Lol, loved the McGee and me clip for the Nord ad
wow! that bridge didnt collapse so much as capsize.
Greeting. I've been following your channel for a while now and I have a question. I live in Croatia and in 2018 the Chinese company China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC), which is financed with European funds, has started the construction of a large bridge on the Adriatic coast (Peljesac Bridge). According to what you said, I am interested in whether we should be worried in Croatia, since the bridge is nearing the end of construction and will be open to traffic in the summer of 2022, at the beginning of the tourist season. Thank you and greetings from Croatia.
I doubt it will be a problem. There will be Croatian contractors and Croatian workers who should sound an alarm if there was a poor design, cheap materials etc.
@@mavfan1 And hopefully European/Croatian build standards will be enforced on the bridge
Can you please tell me where this bridge is located so I can avoid it. Thanks!
I'll fly then.
@@catsup27 Ha ha, the bridge connects the area of Dubrovnik with Dalmatia.
The Three Gorges Dam is built to survive a six on the Richter Scale ,while nine is not unknown.
It's known as the "River Dragon" and apparently already poses a potential future problem. There's lots of safety speculation around the net that makes for interesting reading.
@@sneakygloworm The occurrences so far are the kiddie matinee of what is likely to happen .
Thank you for bringing this story to us.
That Florida building (Champlain Tower) that collapsed was true due to the poor maintenance. The building was built 1930 and due for decaying sewage system. However, the building was there for many many years not like the building that collapses in China that were erected just a year, some less than a year ago.
If such occurrences are routine, it is not hard to imagine a 2001/9/11 a day in China due to shoddy building codes.
On second thoughts, 1 million negligent homicides a year even in a country of < 1400 million would sound unbelievably excessive.
Champlain Tower was built in 1980.
The tower's failure is just another case of Florida corruption. Engineers and property owners all knew the building was defective and also the public agencies certifying that it passed. A little pay off, a sympathetic judge and incompetent city counsels is all you need to get away with anything in the state. Thousands of other buildings in the state have similar defects.
Just reinforces the lack of concern the CCP has towards of the citizens of China. Thousands of years ago the Sumerians had law concerning shoddy construction to protect their citizens. Building achievements to show face is irrelevant to the lack of to the citizens they represent.
Those dirt roads brings back bad memories…… about 10 years ago I joined a bus trip to Inner Mongolia from departing from Beijing. Entire bus was foreign students and guess what? Because of some national event or something , we are not allowed on the high way. The bus didn’t even have window smashers. It was this brutal dirt road for 6 hours straight.
That was ten years ago I. I’m going to venture to say that it is not that way now. especially it Inner Mongolia. I travel that way frequently.
What are window smashers? I've never heard that term before.
@@marks3750 Emergency hammers that are designed to break the safety windows on buses in the event of an emergency like flipping over or a fire or crash.
@@jefferypowell1461 how’s prison food, “Powell”?
If it weren’t for the crappy road condition, I bet that road would generally be a pleasure to take a motorcycle ride on.
Yes, that would be a very beautiful road if it was smooth.
Cement is the most crucial ingredient in concrete. It's also the most expensive. Even with a complete installation of rebar if the concrete has been mixed with a deficient amount of cement then the structure will soon collapse.
My previous employer worked with a couple of engineering centers in China. We had a program that brought Chinese engineers to the US, and vice-versa. I befriended one and we stayed in touch for some time after she returned home. She told me of horrible things that the government does in response to emergencies, like bulldozing over ruins left in the aftermath of some catastrophe without recovering the bodies, leaving the bones to be found by children when the site is redeveloped. One can only hope that survivors were rescued. So when you mentioned that they tried to cover the wreckage of a train, it occurred to me that it must be a policy. Most of our Chinese colleagues were assiduously nonpolitical to all appearances, but I know some really want China to change.
I have not heard from my friend in years, I hope she's okay.
belt and road will be known as the trail of destruction sooner or later.
I just read a Japanese news article about a recently collapsed bridge in China, thank you for informing about this issue. - I do not agree with all of your videos, but I appreciate it if you point out issues in a not too demonizing kind of way!
Sadly the reality are actually much more evil than what they say. Just look at PengShuai, literally put up an act while her appearance looked so tired and scared. That’s just worst.
They did not even expose the worst
Your videos keep reminding me that the concept of 'face' seems to be all important in C. Have to keep that in mind.
Also, keep them coming, really enjoying these
Another example of why face culture MUST END if China wants respect
It's unfortunately how Taiwan works too
@@marw9541 The concept of "face" is deeply rooted in Confucianism, the insidious poison.
Japan has tatemae for a lot of things, but not for product quality or building quality
@@aoeu256 I always get a good chuckle when foreigners gripe about tatemae. The same shit is in the west too, it's just called "putting on a mask."
A McGee and Me cameo?! I totally forgot about that series.
That little bit of dirt at the beginning you were riding on is a great spot for a house... LOL
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Programming with Chinese Characteristics.
I thought the bridges in Boston were bad. The Tobin bridge, fifteen years ago specifically. Boston has some of the oldest bridges in the U.S. .
The bridges in Louisiana are terrifying. I drove through Shreveport once and it's the only time I've been scared on an interstates bridge. A lot of the bridges that cross the freeway are reduced weight limits due to disrepair.
@@delbomb3131 Louisiana is the worst state in the US
As someone who works in project management, I can say that the quality of the work depends on the client side as well, the Chinese contractors can't cut corners if proper inspections are carried correctly and thoroughly to the standards, I mean here international standards ASTM, ISO etc, not Chinese one, in addition to local standards for different environment and weather.
In the end the Client will have to review and approve all the designs and constructions plan, and believe me, when it comes to Chinese contractors, you MUST triple check everything.
They will try to cheat. I used to work for an importer. We imported products from China. They were supposed to use a particular finish on the product. After catching them doing a few "accidental" wrong things, I had to be there to oversee the production of our products. I happened to walk into a back room one time and found them emptying 5 gallon buckets of Chinese finish into the empty 5 gallon buckets of the European finish that was to go onto our products. Even though I saw them bring the cans out and fill the machines with them, they were just putting the Chinese finish in them in the back room. Stuff like that happens all the time. It is endemic.
This is my favourite video of all of your channels put together. I love the riding on bikes stuff but combined with infrastructure failures in China is awesome 😎
Those cameras are for making funny RUclips videos for their monetized account
The shiny buildings are probably being built with the bridge money
Very educational and entertaining!
This road looks as good as the old abandoned Bangor & Aroostook Railroad roadbed, albeit with more and deeper potholes... gosh.
In Florida, we had a condo collapse on the Atlantic coast. The attention paid to that in this country compared to China is enlightening.
Yes! Thanks for the clear eyed view of the CCP! Keep staying amazing!!
It would be good to know if China's military machines are built to such low standards.
Can you guys do a video on that ? I sort of doubt it.
But any ideas on that ?
9:08 In all fairness. This bridge' integrity was fine until a maniac decided it was a good idea to run his 200 ton truck transporting a power grid transformer on to the overpass. Only to be met by workers occupying the center lane halfway across directing the truck to pass on the emergency lane of the very edge right side of the deck. Tipping the deck with four times the maximum upper load the bridge was constructed for. This accident was a human error.
That's a huge excuse to make.
These flyovers are made to withstand total standstill traffic i.e. any number of vehicles standing on it on any section, or all of it. That amounts to much more than 400 tonnes.
That's just a silly excuse.
So the bridge would not be able to handle 3 standard sized semi trucks or 100 cars.
About the sinkholes in China, I have also heard that part of the reason for the increasing commonality of sinkholes is overextraction of water from the local aquifer.
Same in VN, no motorbikes on the main express highways, and a separate class for bikes over 170 cc and 3 wheel bikes.