Recessed Light Converter Pendant - How to install

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 104

  • @DavidRosen
    @DavidRosen 8 лет назад +6

    This was AWESOME. I don't think I could have done it without this converter. It is harder than they make it sound (that drill must be magical, because it took me like 15 minutes per screw to get through the metal of my existing lighting cans haha), but all in all it's not too bad, and I'm done installing my first ever hanging light fixture and it worked great.

  • @akwjaw14
    @akwjaw14 4 месяца назад +1

    For the self piercing screws, use a hammer and a heavy heavy duty nail to make holes. Then Drill the screws in SLOWLY! You have to use the drill SLOW for metal. After hours of trying to figure out how to make this work- this method took me 5 minutes.

  • @DarrenBolstad
    @DarrenBolstad 2 месяца назад

    These self piercing screws do work, took me 2 seconds to drill them in. Not sure what all the comments are about them not drilling in easily. Installed 2 this morning and all 4 screws drilled in like butter. Maybe needs more pressure than the others were expecting.

  • @tinatonkin8542
    @tinatonkin8542 8 лет назад +5

    This is a great video. Thank you! I'm going to attempt my converter today. Hopefully it's as simple as this video shows!

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  8 лет назад

      +Tina Tonkin Thank you - hope all went well with your installation project!

  • @jimnoon4104
    @jimnoon4104 3 года назад +1

    Great product. It's much easier if you predrill a pilot hole for the "self piercing screws".

  • @stephentucker7052
    @stephentucker7052 4 года назад +3

    I would also add that most can lights are not flush with the ceiling so some insight will need take place before you start mounting the support bracket, need to consider the metal plate and how it will fit in place....The metal plate will not slide into and around the bracket as the video shows IF the initial support bracket is not flush with the ceiling (and it's most likely your canister won't be flush).....

  • @cuetop209
    @cuetop209 Год назад

    Awesome. Thanks a ton for the video!!!

  • @Kr438437
    @Kr438437 5 лет назад +5

    Note that the instructions do not tell you to remove the plastic covering as shown in video. The video showing to do a pilot hole for the self-taping screws is very helpful. With our can, there is no place that the ground wire will attach. There is a lip that makes the can flush with the ceiling and the ground hook will not slip under any other piece.

  • @jhgillmd
    @jhgillmd 8 лет назад +36

    In the video, you pre-drilled pilot holes for the "self-piercing" screws that go into the metal cans. It's a bit disingenuous to say they are "self-piercing" while not mentioning this is ALWAYS a problem (I've done this multiple times). This part of the process REALLY doesn't work and desperately needs to be improved upon. Overall, the product gets the job done, but it's a really cumbersome process.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  8 лет назад +3

      Thank you for your feedback James. I am sorry you have experienced difficulty with the self-piercing screws.
      There are lots of cases where a pre-drilled hole is not necessary. However, because there are many different manufacturers who use different gauge materials, pre-drilling a hole may be necessary in order to complete a project with thicker gauge cans.
      Recognizing this, we've added an "addendum" video to address cases where a pilot hole is necessary - in cases such as what your experiences have been. ruclips.net/video/JeIAR1h2ICo/видео.html
      Thank you for purchasing the Recessed Light Converter. We do appreciate hearing from you and receiving your feedback on the Recessed Light Converter.

    • @samcampbell7590
      @samcampbell7590 4 года назад +2

      I was pleasantly surprised to discover that my can had tiny factory pre-drilled holes that worked for this, but I've read reviews that said the worst part about this process is what you described. I think it depends on the can. I'll leave a review on Amazon for this Westinghouse adapter product with a picture so others can know about this before they buy.

    • @garyfisher6199
      @garyfisher6199 3 года назад +1

      He's exactly correct---the screws are not self-piercing. Very vague instructions on re-using the small washer for the sliding bar. It is a "good" way to replace recessed light cans, but it's not as simple as the manufacturer would like you to believe. As stated above, it's a cumbersome process.

  • @stephentucker7052
    @stephentucker7052 4 года назад +2

    Easy to install product, unless you buy a pendant light kit (which Lowe's only seems to carry) that has side mounts instead of front of the face plate mounts as shown in this video.

  • @gowthamkrishnamoorthy4875
    @gowthamkrishnamoorthy4875 2 года назад

    Helped me a lot, thanks a ton

  • @AmoghNatu
    @AmoghNatu Год назад

    Thank you. This helped.

  • @ar159101
    @ar159101 9 лет назад +1

    Great job sir! This video was done perfectly.

  • @MelodicModes
    @MelodicModes 6 лет назад

    The guy didn't have his microphone on. Video was helpful.

  • @Viernes_Cigars
    @Viernes_Cigars 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video! I just purchased two kits that I’ll be installing to my sunroom. Out of curiosity, could I paint the metal plate on one side and not use the provided medallion? I am not a big fan of the design and want something that is thin and flat large enough to cover the can but no borders. Thank you again for providing the detailed instructions!

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  2 года назад +1

      Hi, thank you for your inquiry. You do not need to use the included white medallion with the recessed light converter kit. You also do not need to use the metal plate as long as the fixture or pendant canopy that is being installed completely covers the opening of the recessed can. It is possible that it could be required to meet the local electrical code requirements in your area for an electrical enclosure so if you are uncertain, we recommend consulting a local building inspector or professional installer to determine if the fixture being installed can be used without the metal plate. If you have any additional questions, please contact Westinghouse Lighting Consumer Support by email for assistance at: consumersupport@westinghouselighting.com Thanks!

  • @SquatchRN
    @SquatchRN 4 года назад +2

    Great video! The instructions were not nearly as easy to follow. Thanks!

  • @jens2064
    @jens2064 9 лет назад +3

    Brian, I'm having the same trouble. The self-piercing screws aren't going through the can. Did you ever get it to work?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      Jen S Jen - There are many different cans from different manufacturers in the market. There is variation in the material thickness and composition of the cans. While there are many cans that the self-piercing screws will go right through, there are some cans that do require a pilot hole. Could you let us know what make of recessed can you have? We would like to look into this further? Thank you.

    • @benaveryp
      @benaveryp 6 лет назад

      My screws dont go in either...what do ido

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  6 лет назад

      We made this video in response to the questions received about our self-piercing screws. We hope you find it helpful and would be happy to answer any questions if you'd like to provide additional details on the recessed cans you are using: ruclips.net/video/JeIAR1h2ICo/видео.html

  • @elizabethtownsend8790
    @elizabethtownsend8790 5 лет назад +1

    I must have purchased a previously returned product because my green ground cable, nor my bare copper wire were attached when I removed them from the original package. Where does the bare copper wire get attached?

    • @elizabethtownsend8790
      @elizabethtownsend8790 5 лет назад

      Update: I ended up going back to Home Depot and requesting the missing ground green screw and viewed the proper location of the bare copper wire from an unsold package. Bare ground wire screws in with a ground screw opposite the green ground wire.

  • @bayleezittlow8068
    @bayleezittlow8068 8 лет назад +1

    Is it absolutely necessary to use the metal medallion? The mounting base of my pendant fixture looks smaller in diameter than this metal medallion which would stick out.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  8 лет назад +1

      Hi Baylee - The recessed light converter can be used without the metal plate/medallion as long as the fixture covers the opening completely. If it does not you will have to use the metal plate. Thank you for your inquiry.

  • @LOREMIG
    @LOREMIG 2 года назад

    I woul love to sde how install a chandelier

  • @dylanreynolds4899
    @dylanreynolds4899 Год назад

    My recessed light doesnt have the metal can inside the ceiling i have led light and they dont twist in

  • @rodgermilliken809
    @rodgermilliken809 3 года назад

    How much weight will it hold?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  3 года назад +1

      Hello: Our recessed light converter has a 50 lb. load maximum. Thanks!

  • @rskdigital
    @rskdigital 4 года назад

    Will this kit work for recessed lights in an outdoor, covered patio?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  4 года назад

      Hello: Our recessed light converter, item 0101100, is damp location rated. It can be used outdoors as long as it is an outdoor rated fixture. Thanks!

  • @troygrant4190
    @troygrant4190 5 лет назад +1

    Do I need to add any additional support to the can light housing above the ceiling before installing this product?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Troy,
      No additional support is necessary, as long as you are installing it on a “new construction” can (not a “remodeling” can). Hope this helps!

    • @WannaBFarmER
      @WannaBFarmER 5 лет назад +1

      @@Westinghouselighting how can you tell if it is a new construction or remodel can?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад

      @@WannaBFarmER Hi Ronald, You can check and contact the manufacturer of your recessed cans to see if they are a new work or remodeled. For our products, Westinghouse lists in our instruction manuals the recessed can models that are compatible with our 0101100 recessed can converter. All instruction manuals can be found on our site -www.westinghouselighting.com, just search the item #0101100 and it will pop up. I hope this helps!

  • @bjschmitz1
    @bjschmitz1 9 лет назад +4

    Self-piercing screws are worthless unless you have very thin metal on recessed can. Even even trying a pilot hole with impact drill would not penetrate my can. Going to now try a high-speed drill bit to create a pilot so these self-piercing screws actually pierce.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      Brian - We are sorry that you are having trouble with the self-piercing screws. Could you give us some information about the recessed can you are having trouble with? Possibly the make, size and model number? We would like to look into this issue further. Thank you for your patience.

    • @DavidRosen
      @DavidRosen 8 лет назад +1

      +Brian Schmitz took me like 15-20 minutes of wearing out my drill bits to make the pilot hole (that drill they use in the video must be made of magic... or the can was made of paper haha), but once it finally pushed through and made a hole, the screws went in super easy. just takes persistence and a willingness to ruin your drill bits trying to make the pilot hole haha

    • @swanson8r
      @swanson8r 5 лет назад +3

      Same here; I ended up using a nail to make a small indent in the inside wall of the can so the "self-piercing" screw wouldn't slide all over the place, then switched off between the screw and the nail until the hole in the metal wall of the can was big enough for the screw to thread all the way in. In my case, there were 2 layers of metal on each side to go though on a 5" can.

  • @rastakim16333
    @rastakim16333 5 лет назад

    what if the wires from recessed light doesnt have a ground wire? and the pendant has? can i skip the ground wire?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад

      Hi,
      You don’t want to skip grounding. It’s a safety issue. You do want to use the expandable bracket mounted to the recess can to ground. Use the green grounding wire with the screw (the screw gets mounted to the recess can), and connect the copper ground wire from the expandable bracket to the pendant ground wire.

  • @adolfogarciajr.3122
    @adolfogarciajr.3122 7 лет назад

    would you be able to hang a ceiling fan using the recessed light converter kit?

    • @imwithmikeb
      @imwithmikeb 6 лет назад +1

      No. The Westinghouse instructions specifically state that this is "Not intended for use with ceiling fan." This has weight limit for 50 lbs for the lighting fixture.

  • @karlanorton5717
    @karlanorton5717 9 лет назад +1

    the screws are to long for the cap nuts to fit on properly. What can I do?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      Karla Norton
      Karla, Are you referring to the screws that got through the fixture mounting bar and the canopy that are secured with a cap nut? Could you take a picture of this? We can help you better if we know more information. Thank you.

  • @feastoffun
    @feastoffun 4 года назад +2

    It’s super hard to drill those first two screws and this video is deceptive.

  • @albertleonjr504
    @albertleonjr504 9 лет назад

    How much weight will the converter hold

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      Albert leon,jr The Recessed Light Converter has a 50-pound load rating.

  • @lesterchilds8614
    @lesterchilds8614 4 года назад

    This appears to be for use only with new work cans.

  • @thomasgreenwood5888
    @thomasgreenwood5888 6 лет назад

    Can it hold a ceiling fan

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  6 лет назад

      Hi Thomas. The Recessed Light Converter is not intended for use with ceiling fans.

  • @gerimorris6979
    @gerimorris6979 7 лет назад

    Is it necessary to use the pigtail - my socket was not stationary and was hanging down with the wires - can you cut the wires from the socket and just use from there to attach the fixture- BTW there is a real problem with the self piercing screws - I had to take my hubby to the ER after the drill cut his hand from trying so hard to screw it in - be very careful- not good

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  7 лет назад

      Hi Geri, We'd like to apologize for the issue you are having with our product. In order to resolve this issue, please contact our Consumer Support Department at (888) 417-6222. Our Consumer Support Department is available Monday through Friday, 8am to 5pm, US Eastern Standard Time. If you would prefer to contact us via email, please send your inquiry to consumersupport@westinghouselighting.com. Thank you!

  • @frankiemack20
    @frankiemack20 4 года назад

    What do you do if there is a layer of drywall in front of the can?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  4 года назад

      In order to use the recessed can converter, your recessed can needs to be a 4-6” new construction recessed can. The recessed can needs be accessible in order to properly install the recessed can converter. If you are uncertain on how to install or if you can use the recessed can converter, we recommend to contact a local electrician in your area for assistance as this needs to be installed according to the included instructions.

  • @THEGIANTCOWK
    @THEGIANTCOWK 8 лет назад

    Doesn't the instruction say not to use this in a pop in can or light ic housing ?

  • @jeremyregnier8835
    @jeremyregnier8835 4 года назад

    When I screw the mounting bracket to the channel brace, the side screw holding the green ground wire touches the self piercing screw. Is it a problem?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  4 года назад

      Hello: As long as the self-piercing screws are all the way in and tight, contact with the ground screw is okay. Thanks!

  • @sillenomad
    @sillenomad 8 лет назад +2

    the piercing screws won't even scratch my can. not piecing screws.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  8 лет назад

      Hi Damon - Sorry you have experienced difficulty with the self-piercing screws.
      There are lots of cases where a pre-drilled hole is not necessary. However, because there are many different manufacturers who use different gauge materials, pre-drilling a hole may be necessary in order to complete a project with thicker gauge cans.
      We've added an "addendum" video to address cases where a pilot hole is necessary. ruclips.net/video/JeIAR1h2ICo/видео.html

    • @NewShockerGuy
      @NewShockerGuy 8 лет назад

      I had to pre-drill the holes. This is a nice kit. I wish the directions included were as nice as this video. The instructions included were half assed at best but the video explains and shows perfectly how to install this.I changed the trim ring because it is very ugly, but other than that I wish the manufacture would sell the same kit without the included trim ring which would lower the cost of this unit by a little bit and let users choose the best trim ring and look they are going for with the light they are hanging.

  • @mignonettebailey
    @mignonettebailey 5 лет назад

    Does this work on an LED retrofit recessed light?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад

      The Recessed Light Converter is designed to work with recessed cans. You can remove the light bulb from a recessed can and use the Recessed Light Converter to hang a light fixture.

  • @henrybehrens2149
    @henrybehrens2149 5 лет назад

    The directions say the included self-driving screws need to be used, but mine won't self-drive through the can.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад

      We made this video in response to the questions received about our self-piercing screws. We hope you find it helpful and would be happy to answer any questions if you'd like to provide additional details on the recessed cans you are using: ruclips.net/video/JeIAR1h2ICo/видео.html

  • @jpating
    @jpating 5 лет назад

    I'm using this on a 5.5" recessed can light. When I expand the channel brace to fit the can, the screw holes for the mounting bracket move off center. They are only centered when on the smallest setting. This is a problem because it will cause the light fixture I'm installing to be off center. Am I doing something wrong?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад

      Hi Joanne,
      Thank you for your inquiry. We're looking into this issue and will post a reply to you shortly. We appreciate your patience!

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Joanne,
      We suspect that the light converter may have been installed incorrectly. If you've already installed it in the recess can, the easiest way to adjust the bracket position is to slightly loosen all 3 screws (2 large and 1 small) and re-position the bracket. Then re-tighten all screws.
      If this doesn't solve your issue, please contact our Consumer Support Department for direct assistance. You can reach our team via email at consumersupport@westinghouselighting.com.
      Thank you!

  • @deepscool4u2
    @deepscool4u2 4 года назад

    Westinghouse: Is there a reason why my dimming capability is gone after using this converter?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  4 года назад

      Hi Deepak: The recessed can converter would not have any effect on the dimming capabilities of your fixture. It is possible that the bulbs you are using in the fixture or the fixture itself could be causing the problem with the dimming capabilities. I hope this helps, let us know if you have any other questions, thanks!

  • @nickpepe05
    @nickpepe05 8 лет назад

    is there a converter that would work on a 3.5 inch can?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  8 лет назад +1

      Hi Nick - Unfortunately, we do not carry a converter that can be used on a 3.5 inch can. Our recessed light converter will work with a recessed can size between 4 inch to 6 inch diameter.

  • @Nikdik-hl6hq
    @Nikdik-hl6hq 9 лет назад

    Westinghouse lighting. Do you have a recessed light converter for a 4 prong fluorescent canned lighting fixture? Canned light model # B6PLIC-26. Bulb model # PL-C 26W/835/4P.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      Nikdik1000 Thank you for contacting us. Sorry, we do not offer a Recessed Light Converter for a 4 prong fluorescent can light fixture at this time.

  • @surfops
    @surfops 9 лет назад

    Do you make a cover plate with a larger opening for the pendant base or a flat plate?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      +Charles Haley, thank you for your recent question regarding the cover plate opening. If you are referring to the outside diameter of the white medallion (and not the center inside hole opening or the metal cover plate), we sell larger medallions that can be purchased online through Amazon or Home Depot or you can check with your local retailer. However, if you are referring to the hole thru the center of the medallion or the metal cover plate, the size is dictated by UL specifications and we do not offer parts with a larger hole. I hope this helps answer your question.

  • @nursemarian7445
    @nursemarian7445 8 лет назад

    how about for g24 base???? :(

  • @gbrooke5580
    @gbrooke5580 2 года назад

    You never did show where the washer goes that you said you would be using later.

  • @clwl10202012
    @clwl10202012 5 лет назад

    WTF is up with the bronze cover? Where did it come from? What size is it? There is no information on the box that is being shown online or in the instructions parts list?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  5 лет назад

      Hi Robert! This product is meant to be used for converting a recessed can for a lightbulb into a place to wire and hang a lighting fixture. You’re correct, it does not come with a lighting fixture. In our instructional video, we wanted to show the process from start to finish. At the end, we hang one of our own bronze pendants using the recessed light converter, which explains the bronze cover you are referring to. It is the canopy of the pendant we are hanging. We hope this helps!

  • @CourtneysAuntSara
    @CourtneysAuntSara 9 лет назад

    Not as easy as it looks. Took me the better half of a day but in the end this worked. FYI this was my first light install.

    • @CourtneysAuntSara
      @CourtneysAuntSara 9 лет назад

      I had to do some serious adjustments to the cover ring by clipping out notches for the pendent screws. This is a descent product if you take you time and reason your way through a custom fit.

  • @stephaniebrown540
    @stephaniebrown540 9 лет назад

    Will this conversion kit work on a small eyeball light?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      stephanie brown You will need to check a few things to see if the Recessed Light Converter will work for your small eyeball light. Is it an incandescent socketed recess housing? Is the recess housing diameter (the hole in the ceiling) between 4” and 6”?
      If the answers are yes to both of these then this will work for your application.

  • @ryanbennink6757
    @ryanbennink6757 Год назад

    These screws in the kit are absolute trash. My kit also came with the screws over tightened so my screw stripped.

  • @Pay2WinGaming
    @Pay2WinGaming 9 лет назад +1

    All my can did was laugh at me. The self piercing screws don't work, my can is from the 1970's.

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  9 лет назад

      FUuTOOBE Sorry you are having trouble with the self-piercing screws. Try a ¼” hex driver it holds the screw better allowing you to put more weight behind it or you can drill a pilot hole (1/16” or 1/8” diameter) into the side wall of the can to get the screw started.

  • @brantleyferrell5382
    @brantleyferrell5382 2 года назад

    Fake! He didn’t drop the cap but even once. Great product though.

  • @theoriginalBlue72
    @theoriginalBlue72 7 месяцев назад

    That flat head screwdriver is wore slam out ! Trash it

  • @martanieradka4675
    @martanieradka4675 3 года назад

    Self-piercing? Yeah right…

  • @stewartsandeman4189
    @stewartsandeman4189 2 года назад

    how much weight can the converted can light hold?

    • @Westinghouselighting
      @Westinghouselighting  2 года назад

      Hello: The recessed light converter has a 50 pound load maximum. Thanks!

  • @msjoy2005
    @msjoy2005 Год назад

    Can the white plate be painted?

    • @bhen205
      @bhen205 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, its paintable. I painted mine matte black to match the fixture.