I wish we (USA) were more family-centric, and cared more about our neighbors. When I was young (born 1973) and a new neighbor moved in, it was customary to introduce yourself, bring a small gift, and offer help if they needed it. You knew your neighbors and could ask for help. It isn't like this anymore. I used to do this at my last apartment complex (people move frequently). The door was always answered with a bothered look and a strange look at my offer of help. I just quit after a while.
The same experience. Case in point, our new neighbors with two small children made kind of negative comments when I would occasionally bring stuff over to be nice, like garden tomatoes. All they said was "ok" or commented that people grow a lot of tomatoes around here (because another middle aged couple gave them some as well). One time they did talk to me to ask me to be an emergency contact on their child's school form, but don't really talk to me and avoid eye contact. It's different.
Its not as simple as putting huts together. We western people are not used to having to endure eachother, doing something for eachother trusting eachother etc. It al disappeares if you live more individual.
@@katharine5606so they avoid getting to know you but trust and expects you to be an emergency contact for their child?? 😮😮 That's beyond crazy and pretty messed up to me!
FYI People generally have 2 homes. One in the city and their homeland just like what she’s shown you. These days people are modernising their homelands and moving away from the more traditional build.
The African way is a village and a house in the city but not all villages are huts in Nigeria especially in the eastern part most family houses have been replaced by huge mansions and ultra modern infrastructure often built by the most successful person in the family who sometimes will build compounds for some of the family members to stay but in the city the western way of life is paramount
Exactly, people in the west think we asians, Africans, middle eastern know nothing of community whereas we are community , as you said in your other video we don’t need life insurance because when someone dies neighbours relatives take care of the deceased ‘s family
Person from the west here.. honestly being neighborly is pretty much a thing of the past. It's like it's considered a bad thing to rely or depend on anyone but yourself. Independence is huge here. Frankly, I think that's why so many people are depressed and unhappy. We are not that old of a country yet we think we know everything and have it all figured out. It's no wonder most of the world rolls their eyes when speaking of the u.s....
I don’t think this is a perception westerners have. Most of us are aware that eastern cultures are much more community based, and western cultures are more individualistic. Westerners hold a lot of extremely racist and orientalist views of people in the east, but I don’t think this is one of them
It's wild to think about, but this is _so_ different to my context (city in Australia) that I pretty much _can't even fathom what it would be like to live like that every day._ I have so many questions 😂 Does it ever get frustrating, like if you don't like a particular person or family member or child? Are folks who are more reserved or introverted able to get the quiet space they need to recharge? What happens if you don't like kids? Does the community setup increase safety and decrease crime? Are crimes against women still prevelant in this context? Is there jealousy or weirdness if one community member of family is more well-off? Is it usually quite loud? I'm SO curious about it all, because part of me is so wistful for a life like that and another part wonders how it would work. I wish we could be penpals and tell each other stories of our lives!
I have had to start my family tree with just me and my husband. But 5 kids 3 grandbabies later our tree is growing. Our roots are not deep yet, but we can bend with the storms. To many in America, lack family. What you have there is beautiful 😍. One day, I will sit on my porch swing and watch them love each other and be a community. ❤❤❤
The aerial shot of the clusters of homes proves just how incredibly beautiful your community really is, from a visual standpoint. The togetherness is something I’ve never experienced living in the west, in a city/urban environment. Thank you for sharing your incredible slice of life with us ❤
Something us Afro-Americans could really learn from and use in our communities. I’m trying to be the change I want to see; so I’m looking through my genealogy and then will learn what tongue my ancestors might have used to my best knowledge. Then I will teach my children
In the US they think they have it all. I argue with them on this community concepts daily. I guess they for the most part has filled in the gaps that community comes in with consumerism. Some of us called Americans actually dream of being a part of a village community and we show this by being this community villager in our hearts, minds and with those in our neighborhood/town. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I grew up in a tight-knit community kind of like this in the US and my mom and I are introverts. Since moving to go to college, I’ve realized that it was wayyyyy easier to find a place to be alone back at the commune than the suburban neighborhood I live in now. Since everyone in the community would hang out together all the time, I would just go to an area where there wasn’t people. Each family kept their doors unlocked and I would often walk to one of my neighbors houses when they weren’t home. Like, if my family was hosting dinner that night and I started to feel my social battery draining, I’d walk to my neighbors house and chill with their cat and read or take a nap. Rural communities like the one in the video and the one I grew up in have an endless list of chores, too, so if I ever needed a good excuse to leave a social situation, I’d go do a task. The garden always needs weeding, the compost needs turning, chickens and ducks need feeding and water, fences need fixing, firewood needs chopping, hay needs baling, ditch needs digging, trails in the woods need maintenance, everything needs power washing if you live by a swamp like I did, barns and sheds need painting, bread needs baking, and the list goes on and on. Also, so long as you pull your weight on a farm, folks don’t mind if you’re not much of a talker. We had acres and acres of woods because tree farm. The other kids and I would go out and build trails and forts all the time. We had a patch of longleaf pine that was planted around the time I was born, so by the time I was at fort-building age, that patch had matured just enough for us to cut paths through the densely-packed trees. The young pines acted as walls, and we’d cut paths to the live oak trees scattered throughout the forest. The spreading canopies of the live oaks acted as ceilings, and the pines couldn’t grow under the oak canopies. So we built a winding network of “hallways” through the pines, that lead to live oak “rooms”. The network eventually got big enough so that each kid had a room and we’d decorate our rooms with junk found around the property. Any time I wanted some leisurely alone time, I’d go to my “room” in the woods with a radio, a book, and some art supplies. I’d even take my homework out there! Fishing was always an option, too. I mentioned my mom earlier and how she’s also introverted. When she got tired of my siblings and I, she’d tell us to go visit one of our aunties. SOMEONE was always around to watch the kids. My goal is to start another commune with my friends - I can’t stand living in the suburbs. It’s so loud here. Someone’s ALWAYS mowing a lawn, someone’s dog is ALWAYS barking. There’s so much highway noise, and I HAVE to drive somewhere to get away from my roommates or visit friends. I miss being able to just walk out my door to the woods for some alone time, or walk down the hill to hang out with my friend. Now I have to pay for parking to go on a long hike, pay for gas to get away from people, pay an entry fee to go camping, apply for a permit to go backpacking, pay my landlord to hire someone to fix things I could fix myself for free. Gotta pay for fresh produce, eggs, milk, fish - all of which I used to get for free because farm. If our community farm didn’t have what we needed, we’d trade something with a nearby farm. In the summer, I’d would harvest three grocery bags of wild blackberries, hop on my bike, go to the peach guy down the road, and trade the blackberries for a crate of peaches. Back to the introvert thing: I rarely had trouble getting away from people when I needed it. The remote community aspect is nice for introverts because you get to CHOOSE when to deal with the general public. Everyone in my community has known me since birth (I’m the second-youngest), so they can REALLY tell when I’m feeling socially overwhelmed, sometimes before I know it myself. They’d just give me the space I needed! Of course, every community is different. But mine was very empathetic, and I feel that that’s pretty common since everyone wants to keep the peace. The people in your community are the people you get, so you want to make sure everyone’s content and comfortable - including the introverts!! Sorry for the LONG comment, I’m procrastinating on an essay and reminiscing on my childhood and answering random people’s questions is WAY more fun lol.
Watching from India 🙏Just found you and its really addictive, subtle sense of humour😂 Beauty of the village, blend of two places, balance between life of village and city. Woman you are heck of an inspiration for all of us. Much love and hugs 🤗❤️❤️ god bless your passion for life ❤❤❤❤❤
Very swt and beatiful in cultural dress,keep it up sister.....Actually we africans have been selfless for centuries thus extended families. Children grow up with amongst several parents which is not the case in yt system.
🎉❤ Thank you for sharing! Taking care of the global community!! Can we make this common knowledge?! Beautiful spaces as well... Uff ufff! Happy living... phenomenal beings!! ❤🎉
🙃 You look so beautiful, Joy! 🙂 Something tells me you were about to take part of a big event, you were on it while recording the short or you just did. Anyhow, so beautiful alright!
And the US used to be like this. Not necessarily building close to one another……but we used to take care of each other and watch out for one another. Now it’s every man for himself. We should watch out for one another more, it only strengthens the community.
Beautiful life. In America, the majority of us live in… - Houses with security fences/systems - Gated communities with private security - Apartments with multiple door locks and security systems We have no community. Kinda sad…
Exactly why most US suburbs have the highest rates of loneliness, depression and anxiety… especially in children. Home buyer: “I need space! All my stuff must be stored here! Also, I need an extra room to put in more stuff!” Same home buyer: “I drive to the mailbox and drive my kids door to door for Halloween. Why is Disney world so much better than my residential only subdivision?”
This community way of life fills me with hope that there is a better way. And yet, it also fills me with fear and doubt. What about the outcasts, the ones who don't fit in? What happens to them in these communities? I have the fear that their situation would be utterly hopeless, that there is truly nowhere for them to go. In individualistic societies, the outcast learns to stand alone and ultimately finds other misfits to form a subculture with. What do they do in a totally community oriented culture? Or are there truly NO such outcasts? Is it actually possible for a group of humans to love, respect, and include ALL members of the community? I cherish the hope that my fears are completely baseless and that some humans are actually pulling off true community.
I don't know why anyone would wonder this considering how close ppl live by each other in western countries. Ppl live near each other just about all over. However, community may or may not be present in western civilization regardless of proximity.
That's one of the differences i noticed when i came to Europe. Even in actual modern African cities our houses aren't that close together, you don't need a baby siter because neighbours just watch over yours lol.
I don't have anti-social personality disorder. Also, it's insufferable to be around most people pursuing only their own interests. Cheers, from Phoenix, Arizona, USA. Our birds recently, have had a hard time, eating too many of the grasshoppers. ComMuNiTy iS tHe WaY tO gO. Lol? 😅 We've had a hard time getting, bees and other insects back.
"It takes a village" no truer words spoken. I could only wish for such community. Even our Native communities have become extremely toxic only breeding generations of abused. America in general is a very toxic place compared to Uganda.
That's a very sentimental and fanciful exolanation but not actually grounded in reality. Look at any old town in Europe and you will see that they also built their houses.on top of each other. The reasons why are very well understood and it has nothing to do with community.
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That’s great….”Takes a village to raise a child “ ❤❤❤
In the west we now raise a child alone with very expensive childcare. We've lost a sense of community.
This is the way of life all people are meant to live. It is based in love and respect. 🖤
I agree. My neighbors are bothered by attempts to get to know them. Although that could be because they just don't like something about me.
They're not "huts" They are houses
That is like one of the most beautiful women on earth... Smart, sharp and confident too.. wow
I wish we (USA) were more family-centric, and cared more about our neighbors. When I was young (born 1973) and a new neighbor moved in, it was customary to introduce yourself, bring a small gift, and offer help if they needed it. You knew your neighbors and could ask for help. It isn't like this anymore.
I used to do this at my last apartment complex (people move frequently). The door was always answered with a bothered look and a strange look at my offer of help. I just quit after a while.
The same experience. Case in point, our new neighbors with two small children made kind of negative comments when I would occasionally bring stuff over to be nice, like garden tomatoes. All they said was "ok" or commented that people grow a lot of tomatoes around here (because another middle aged couple gave them some as well). One time they did talk to me to ask me to be an emergency contact on their child's school form, but don't really talk to me and avoid eye contact. It's different.
Its not as simple as putting huts together. We western people are not used to having to endure eachother, doing something for eachother trusting eachother etc. It al disappeares if you live more individual.
@@katharine5606so they avoid getting to know you but trust and expects you to be an emergency contact for their child?? 😮😮 That's beyond crazy and pretty messed up to me!
Love this so much. Please do not ever replace these wonderful traditional homes with anything western or so called "modern."
FYI People generally have 2 homes. One in the city and their homeland just like what she’s shown you. These days people are modernising their homelands and moving away from the more traditional build.
The African way is a village and a house in the city but not all villages are huts in Nigeria especially in the eastern part most family houses have been replaced by huge mansions and ultra modern infrastructure often built by the most successful person in the family who sometimes will build compounds for some of the family members to stay but in the city the western way of life is paramount
Exactly, people in the west think we asians, Africans, middle eastern know nothing of community whereas we are community , as you said in your other video we don’t need life insurance because when someone dies neighbours relatives take care of the deceased ‘s family
Person from the west here.. honestly being neighborly is pretty much a thing of the past. It's like it's considered a bad thing to rely or depend on anyone but yourself. Independence is huge here. Frankly, I think that's why so many people are depressed and unhappy. We are not that old of a country yet we think we know everything and have it all figured out. It's no wonder most of the world rolls their eyes when speaking of the u.s....
I don’t think this is a perception westerners have. Most of us are aware that eastern cultures are much more community based, and western cultures are more individualistic. Westerners hold a lot of extremely racist and orientalist views of people in the east, but I don’t think this is one of them
Haha you’d be where the western world is…. Disconnected from self, one another, the land, food…. Based in UK and it’s desolate
Praying to gravitate to a space of genuine connection and community for my family xx
This is something I have always wanted.
Lot's of love and respect my dear African brothers and sisters unity is strength love from india❤️💜💖🇮🇳
It's wild to think about, but this is _so_ different to my context (city in Australia) that I pretty much _can't even fathom what it would be like to live like that every day._ I have so many questions 😂 Does it ever get frustrating, like if you don't like a particular person or family member or child? Are folks who are more reserved or introverted able to get the quiet space they need to recharge? What happens if you don't like kids? Does the community setup increase safety and decrease crime? Are crimes against women still prevelant in this context? Is there jealousy or weirdness if one community member of family is more well-off? Is it usually quite loud? I'm SO curious about it all, because part of me is so wistful for a life like that and another part wonders how it would work. I wish we could be penpals and tell each other stories of our lives!
I have had to start my family tree with just me and my husband. But 5 kids 3 grandbabies later our tree is growing. Our roots are not deep yet, but we can bend with the storms. To many in America, lack family. What you have there is beautiful 😍. One day, I will sit on my porch swing and watch them love each other and be a community. ❤❤❤
My Congolese great-grandmother used to say the same things. Your content reminds me of her so much.
The aerial shot of the clusters of homes proves just how incredibly beautiful your community really is, from a visual standpoint. The togetherness is something I’ve never experienced living in the west, in a city/urban environment. Thank you for sharing your incredible slice of life with us ❤
Something us Afro-Americans could really learn from and use in our communities. I’m trying to be the change I want to see; so I’m looking through my genealogy and then will learn what tongue my ancestors might have used to my best knowledge. Then I will teach my children
That makes me want to cry it's so beautiful ❤ 😊
That's our African proverb right there.. " a child belongs to the community" " I am because you are"- Ubuntu.🤝🏽
Joy you are beautiful, I grew up that way and you could feel the care and love ❤❤
I love learning from you ❤
Noble soul! Can see it in your eyes.
In the US they think they have it all.
I argue with them on this community concepts daily.
I guess they for the most part has filled in the gaps that community comes in with consumerism.
Some of us called Americans actually dream of being a part of a village community and we show this by being this community villager in our hearts, minds and with those in our neighborhood/town.
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I'm sure many people will thrive from so much community, but I wonder how it is for introverts. Are they frowned upon or considered strange?
I grew up in a tight-knit community kind of like this in the US and my mom and I are introverts. Since moving to go to college, I’ve realized that it was wayyyyy easier to find a place to be alone back at the commune than the suburban neighborhood I live in now. Since everyone in the community would hang out together all the time, I would just go to an area where there wasn’t people. Each family kept their doors unlocked and I would often walk to one of my neighbors houses when they weren’t home. Like, if my family was hosting dinner that night and I started to feel my social battery draining, I’d walk to my neighbors house and chill with their cat and read or take a nap. Rural communities like the one in the video and the one I grew up in have an endless list of chores, too, so if I ever needed a good excuse to leave a social situation, I’d go do a task. The garden always needs weeding, the compost needs turning, chickens and ducks need feeding and water, fences need fixing, firewood needs chopping, hay needs baling, ditch needs digging, trails in the woods need maintenance, everything needs power washing if you live by a swamp like I did, barns and sheds need painting, bread needs baking, and the list goes on and on. Also, so long as you pull your weight on a farm, folks don’t mind if you’re not much of a talker. We had acres and acres of woods because tree farm. The other kids and I would go out and build trails and forts all the time. We had a patch of longleaf pine that was planted around the time I was born, so by the time I was at fort-building age, that patch had matured just enough for us to cut paths through the densely-packed trees. The young pines acted as walls, and we’d cut paths to the live oak trees scattered throughout the forest. The spreading canopies of the live oaks acted as ceilings, and the pines couldn’t grow under the oak canopies. So we built a winding network of “hallways” through the pines, that lead to live oak “rooms”. The network eventually got big enough so that each kid had a room and we’d decorate our rooms with junk found around the property. Any time I wanted some leisurely alone time, I’d go to my “room” in the woods with a radio, a book, and some art supplies. I’d even take my homework out there! Fishing was always an option, too. I mentioned my mom earlier and how she’s also introverted. When she got tired of my siblings and I, she’d tell us to go visit one of our aunties. SOMEONE was always around to watch the kids. My goal is to start another commune with my friends - I can’t stand living in the suburbs. It’s so loud here. Someone’s ALWAYS mowing a lawn, someone’s dog is ALWAYS barking. There’s so much highway noise, and I HAVE to drive somewhere to get away from my roommates or visit friends. I miss being able to just walk out my door to the woods for some alone time, or walk down the hill to hang out with my friend. Now I have to pay for parking to go on a long hike, pay for gas to get away from people, pay an entry fee to go camping, apply for a permit to go backpacking, pay my landlord to hire someone to fix things I could fix myself for free. Gotta pay for fresh produce, eggs, milk, fish - all of which I used to get for free because farm. If our community farm didn’t have what we needed, we’d trade something with a nearby farm. In the summer, I’d would harvest three grocery bags of wild blackberries, hop on my bike, go to the peach guy down the road, and trade the blackberries for a crate of peaches. Back to the introvert thing: I rarely had trouble getting away from people when I needed it. The remote community aspect is nice for introverts because you get to CHOOSE when to deal with the general public. Everyone in my community has known me since birth (I’m the second-youngest), so they can REALLY tell when I’m feeling socially overwhelmed, sometimes before I know it myself. They’d just give me the space I needed! Of course, every community is different. But mine was very empathetic, and I feel that that’s pretty common since everyone wants to keep the peace. The people in your community are the people you get, so you want to make sure everyone’s content and comfortable - including the introverts!! Sorry for the LONG comment, I’m procrastinating on an essay and reminiscing on my childhood and answering random people’s questions is WAY more fun lol.
Watching from India 🙏Just found you and its really addictive, subtle sense of humour😂 Beauty of the village, blend of two places, balance between life of village and city. Woman you are heck of an inspiration for all of us. Much love and hugs 🤗❤️❤️ god bless your passion for life ❤❤❤❤❤
Very swt and beatiful in cultural dress,keep it up sister.....Actually we africans have been selfless for centuries thus extended families. Children grow up with amongst several parents which is not the case in yt system.
THAT'S WHAT THE CREATOR WANTS. FOR LIVING BEINGS TO TAKE CARE OF ONE ANOTHER!!!
Community is something America is sorely lacking in. We can take this lovely example and aspire to it! ❤
Your outfit is so beautiful! Could you talk about Ugandan outfits if you haven't already? ❤😊❤
You are very right, my sister .
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That outfit is BEAUTIFUL ❤️🔥
That is the way of loving and carring for each other...
Omg she looks like a black Uma Thurman 😍
You are a beautiful soul I love you sister! In Jesus mighty name! Amen 🙏
Family is the way to go. Extended families in the same area.
I love your channel!!
❤❤❤ This does exist outside Afrique et. Liverpool at its best is like this. Although old folks don't get visited as much.
You are wise. I will try to learn from you.
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Thank you for sharing! Taking care of the global community!! Can we make this common knowledge?!
Beautiful spaces as well... Uff ufff!
Happy living... phenomenal beings!!
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Greetings, my sister 🎉❤😊
🙃 You look so beautiful, Joy! 🙂 Something tells me you were about to take part of a big event, you were on it while recording the short or you just did.
Anyhow, so beautiful alright!
We've kept this way of life as Africans born and raised in the Americas
This is incredible. Western society should pay attention
And the US used to be like this. Not necessarily building close to one another……but we used to take care of each other and watch out for one another. Now it’s every man for himself. We should watch out for one another more, it only strengthens the community.
Beautiful life.
In America, the majority of us live in…
- Houses with security fences/systems
- Gated communities with private security
- Apartments with multiple door locks and security systems
We have no community.
Kinda sad…
It used to be like that for me when I was a child everyone knew everyone else .now nobody cares you might know a handful of.neighbours.
You’d be what western countries are. Preserve and cherish always your community and culture bc it is wonderful!
Exactly why most US suburbs have the highest rates of loneliness, depression and anxiety… especially in children.
Home buyer: “I need space! All my stuff must be stored here! Also, I need an extra room to put in more stuff!”
Same home buyer: “I drive to the mailbox and drive my kids door to door for Halloween. Why is Disney world so much better than my residential only subdivision?”
Thank you 👍❤💖
If only the whole world functioned like this..
I love those twists on you! Also, question : what is that shawl called. I know it's not actually a shawl, so I'd like to learn the name!❤
Beautiful❤ i wish We Had that culture in Sweden
This community way of life fills me with hope that there is a better way. And yet, it also fills me with fear and doubt. What about the outcasts, the ones who don't fit in? What happens to them in these communities? I have the fear that their situation would be utterly hopeless, that there is truly nowhere for them to go.
In individualistic societies, the outcast learns to stand alone and ultimately finds other misfits to form a subculture with. What do they do in a totally community oriented culture?
Or are there truly NO such outcasts? Is it actually possible for a group of humans to love, respect, and include ALL members of the community?
I cherish the hope that my fears are completely baseless and that some humans are actually pulling off true community.
African Villages inspired the development of Estates.
greattt❤❤❤❤
She looks like a black Uma Thurman.. bone structure is beautiful
Wow that is beautiful! I wish more cultures were community based
I wish that was the case in my family. We have several difficult, troublemaking people in my family who are nearly impossible to get along with.
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Such a beautiful culture
I felt that
I absolutely love this
We use to have a community mentality.
Great 👍🏻❤❤❤❤❤❤
I don't know why anyone would wonder this considering how close ppl live by each other in western countries. Ppl live near each other just about all over. However, community may or may not be present in western civilization regardless of proximity.
Very true dear. ❤❤❤😂
Lets block any foreign influence and keep our uniqueness. We are organic people and thats why we live conterminously with nature
That's one of the differences i noticed when i came to Europe. Even in actual modern African cities our houses aren't that close together, you don't need a baby siter because neighbours just watch over yours lol.
This is how it should be everywhere
So beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
cant wait to be in uganda
Answer: You would be In Europe
That’s what Islam teaches too sister , take care of neighbors thats how communities are built.
I don't have anti-social personality disorder. Also, it's insufferable to be around most people pursuing only their own interests.
Cheers, from Phoenix, Arizona, USA.
Our birds recently, have had a hard time, eating too many of the grasshoppers. ComMuNiTy iS tHe WaY tO gO. Lol? 😅
We've had a hard time getting, bees and other insects back.
Let me tell you, it is awful being alone in America
Beautiful ❤
This is how it should be ❤
Uganda 🇺🇬❤
Beautiful
The wall has changed.
We have gofundme 😂
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Would a white tourist be disruptive to villages like this or would it be okay to visit places like this if I came to Uganda?
I love this. ❤
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You're so right to stick to your tradicional life. The "developed world" is a very tidy, efficient, sad and lonely place
lol I’ve never lived in a hut in my life. And I grew up in Africa. Nigeria to be precise. So this isn’t the experience for everyone.
Does everybody get along? Are there "out" Hits?
My neighbors wife is my wife and my wife is my neighbors wife.
"It takes a village" no truer words spoken. I could only wish for such community. Even our Native communities have become extremely toxic only breeding generations of abused. America in general is a very toxic place compared to Uganda.
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Principles we've lost in the West 😏
Community builds Unity!
Girl can I come live with you there?
that's nice ☺️🫶
Community matters
Community we care for each other,don’t refer has ghetto.Communities matters
Hi iam tamilnadu
Thats rich stuff! So lacking in the usa
You have something precious that is disappearing in the rest of the world--community.
That's a very sentimental and fanciful exolanation but not actually grounded in reality. Look at any old town in Europe and you will see that they also built their houses.on top of each other. The reasons why are very well understood and it has nothing to do with community.
What about from wild animals?
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