The BEST Filmmaking Rig for the Sony A7s III
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- Let's build an A7S III BEAST rig for filmmaking!
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0:00 Sony A7S III Rig Intro
0:32 A Quick Suggestion
0:52 Sony A7S III SmallRig Cage
1:40 Memory Card
1:46 Arca Swiss Quick-Release & Rod Baseplate
3:29 SmallRig 12 inch Carbon Fiber Rods
4:02 Lens
4:20 NiSi 1/4 Black Mist Filter
4:47 SmallRig Mini Matte Box Pro Overview
6:25 4x5.56 ND Filter
7:55 Matte Box Support Mount
9:03 Top Handle with Record Button
9:28 Monitor Mount
10:00 Wooden Side Handle & Quick Release Mount
11:12 SmallRig V Mount Battery Plate with Adjustable Arm
12:38 V-Mount Batteries, FXLION vs Powerextra
14:00 Recorder/Monitor & Monitor Cage
14:46 Balance
15:08 Powering A7S III and Ninja V with the FXLION V-Mount Battery
16:40 Finishing the Connections
18:15 My Sony A7S III Rig Setup Overview
18:54 Why I Like This Powering Option The Best
20:23 Check Out My Other Sony A7S III Rig Video 
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Which setup do you prefer, larger and heavier or smaller and lighter? Each has their uses!
Very well done Keith!!! 👏
@@Pfagnan Thank you, Pierre!! 🙌
Hey man thank yu so much ! 😘 i rlly wana know how much it weight? And if its gonna work smothly on The Ronin RS2 PRO (4.5KG MAX LOUD )
@@karim_touati Hey there Karim, youll have to remove the camera from the rig to use it on the RS2. You can use the camera with the cage, but not the entire setup as it would be too heavy. I've kept my camera in the cage and used it on the gimbal (thanks to the quick release plate), but you wouldn't want to use the entire setup on a gimbal. Thanks for your kind words and support!
Really loved this video! Thanks for taking the time to put it together. I knew I should have bought the Vmount Adapter when I ordered last week. Dammit.
Thanks for the kind words, Giles! There is always something else to buy, it never stops! Haha
Incredible video man, thank you so much.
It been 2 weeks that m searching firbthe best rig st up thats fit me ! Y r the one man thank yu so much fir yr time for yr efforts yr a legend 🙌 ❤️
Thanks for the kind words and glad I could help!
Spent about 5 hours researching rig parts for the a7S III; your video was the best by far. Compared your choices vs everyone else and you seem to have the best bang-for-buck and performance suggestions. Thank you so much!!!
Glad it helped, Dan! There are definitely more expensive and cheaper options out there (and admittedly, some luxuries on this rig... that wooden side handle!) but was going for solid and still affordable. Thanks for the kind words and watching!
The Kondor HDMI chord you showed in the video WILL NOT do Pro Res Raw at 60 FPS, only at 24 FPS. You need to purchase the Atomos HDMI cable for that. So do not buy the Kondor Blue HDMI cable.
Keith long time subscriber here. Just gotta thank you so much for all your helpful videos. You have no idea how helpful you are man. Keep up the great work. Wish I could have a setup like this for our channel. One day I will 😁
Thank you so much for the kind words, Wilson! Really appreciate your support man. I'd say you should totally get a setup like this, but if you're steal camping this would probably attract some attention haha. Thanks again man! Made my day.
Excellent Video, exactly what we needed!
Glad it helped!!
Ordered heaps of stuff through those links. Thanks mate great video
Great video! I really enjoyed watching that.. 👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Dude… two years later I come across this. Your setup covered literally every single thing I was struggling with. I just got the advanced v mount plate with the extended arm and had no idea what to do with it, the side handle is exactly what I was looking for, the quick releases all around are perfect for my set up. You really helped me out here bro.
Glad it's still helpful!! I sold my A7S III for an FX3 a while ago, but I still use most of these parts on the FX3
Nice rig bro!
Thank you!! 👍
You can actually turn off the auto viewfinder switch to have to be manually swapped from display to viewfinder so you can avoid the accidental switching!
Such a Perfect Tutorial.
Thank you, appreciate the kind words!
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
What a nice Camera Rig 😳
Love this.. my back hurts!
Thank you! Great explanation!
Can I use the demy battery and connect the monitor to the v mount at the same time?
What SSD do you recommend. Will 500GB be enough for normal shooting jobs? Also does the ninja V record both to the SSD and the camera SD card?
It's okay to power the camera from 5V usb output from vmount battery directly to camera usb-c port ?
Hello,
I have a question. Which nisi black mist filter are you using? As far as I know the regular nisi black mist doesnt have a thread on the front side to apply an adapter ring.
Best regards
Hey man. Could I get a link for the dummy battery for the atomic ninja v please??
Can you share a link for the 8v cable?
Thanks for all of the great information! I have the Smallrig V mount plate minus the articulating arm I got for my A7s3, and thought I would get one for my A7IV, but considering the 3204. One thing I keep seeing in comments and reviews is that the articulating arm is not strong enough, and several have said it broke not long after buying it. Smallrig makes great products, but wonder if a V mount battery is just too much weight for it. Has that been your experience?
Hey there Tim, sorry I just saw this - I've been using the articulating arm since this video came out and I can understand if you're using giant batteries that it would be an issue. I've been using the FXLion nano two and ZGcine 99 and havent had issues with the arm holding the batteries up. BUT, that being said, I always make sure to unscrew the arm all the way before repositioning the arm. I could see if you don't "unlock" the arm all the way, and once a heavier V-mount battery is on there, stipping the teeth on the arm and it being more difficult to use over time. I have had to tighten the 4 hex screws that attach the articulating arm to the battery plate itself though. I also have the crab mount version of this plate and have had to do it on that version as well. I'm going to use locktite next time I have to tighten the screws because thats pretty annoying. If you use heavy batteries, or are just a little rough on your gear, I'd look into the 3203. That's a fixed mount, with the same battery plate. The battery plate itself is great, tons of connection options - but the sturdier mount might be better for you
@@keith-knittel Thank you Keith, very much appreciate your taking the time to reply!
Awesome video! can I put circular nd filter on the camera and put the mattebox on top?
You can put the circular nd filter on top of the mattebox I believe yes
What about a follow focus? How necessary is it? What about when you adjust focus or zoom I assume you take your hand off the handle to do it? Just got an A7IV I'm looking to build a rig. Thanks!
For a follow focus, I have the smallrig mini follow focus and it's been a great addition for manual lenses. I have an A7 IV rig video going over a build with a follow focus included if youre interested in checking that out!
So kinda no point in using the rec button on the handle since you hit the rec button on the ninja tho right? atleast thats how I think
Hi Keith … just signed up for your email list and really appreciating your work on these videos. Just pricing out this entire list and one question; on the Ninja 5 can touch focus and touch tracking work on the monitor screen? If not do you know of any monitor that will work with my A7s iii (already own this part)…thanks
Hey Roz, Just responded to your other comment!
I really like the rig you have going on. I'm trying to rig mine out and currently looking at v mounts. I'm wondering what voltage is safe for USB-C power delivery charging while the camera has a Sony FZ100 battery inside? I'm just afraid of frying my nice really expensive camera 😥 if I use a dummy battery. Because I've heard horror stories about dummy batteries.
I just posted a video going over this! 9V 3A is the battery I've been using - but check out my Sony Powering Option video to learn more about it! ruclips.net/video/rEoxYT85GGk/видео.html
@@keith-knittel groovy thanks a ton!
Keith, how long this setup will work with a single battery having both camera and atomos? Is there any difference in power consumption if you use atomos as a monitor and with recording?
Hey there, which battery will you be using? I assume there will be a difference in battery life, but I’ve never done any long term test with the ninja v! I typicallly don’t film long form content in prores, If you let me know what settings you’ll be using, I’ll do a test and left you know my results! Thanks for watching and great question.
Only one question… what does it weigh? Need to determine what Tripod will be needed… 😁
how much is this set up with out the camera/lens
Hey bro thank y so much for yr efforts i rlly appreciate It 🙏 ? i just wana know how much it wieght bro ? Can it work smothly on ronin rs2 pro ?
Hey there, I'm not by my camera right now but this rig will NOT work on the DJI RS2. It's too big, you'll have to take the camera apart to use it on the gimbal.
Does the small rig Matt box adapter come with the Matt box or do you have to buy it separate?
The matte box has a number of different common thread sizes but if you want a large 82mm or a more specific size you’ll have to buy the lens thread adapter separately. Check the listing to see which adapters it specifically comes with
2nd follow up question(s) please; approximately how much does the full rig weigh (?) …and… the *ND filter* link - you have found it to be versatile for a number of day time time conditions? (I’m getting ready to order) thank you Keith
They there roz! The nd filter isn’t very versatile at all. It one strength and it has to be swapped to change ND, but if you have multiple filter size lenses and you have time if you need to swap filters, it’s great! But if you’re looking for something versatile, I have a Peter McKinnon vnd from polar pro that I absolutely love! Check out my run and gun a7siii rig video for more on that. As for the weight, I’m not sure off the top of my head! I’m not home by my camera right now but it’s pretty heavy if you’re filming for a long time but I like the weight because it makes the camera more stable when filming handheld. I take breaks and put the camera down if I’m filming for long periods, like a wedding or something. It’s a great handheld/tripod setup since you can swap quickly between the two!
@@keith-knittel Yes for sure 4 stops is not variable. I guess my thought was that you would possibly use that one more often than not on typical sunny day. And, as for weight …understandable that the weight is what creates stability. Really appreciate your responses…thanks!!!
Very good video, I have a question to see if someone can solve it, I have a Sony a7siii I don't know whether to use a USB C cable for power with the v-mount battery or use a fake battery, what do you think?
Avoid dummy batteries. Can cause issues with you camera. Also if it fails you lose your footage.
@@Eric-zv9ut Thank you! That's what I'm doing
If I’m using a rs3 pro and a7siii, and use the usb c port to record using the rs3, how do I power the a7siii using the usb c if it’s taken?
With the RS3 Pro, you can use bluetooth to start and stop recording from the camera, so you don't have to use the USBC port. Funny timing, i JUST made a video going over how to setup bluetooth on the RS3 pro haha. Go check out my RS3 Pro tips video here: ruclips.net/video/e1N74Xmjd5g/видео.html
quick question keith, can i power the camera through the usb type-a port on the battery plate? that would solve the issue of needing a usb-c v-mount battery
They type A port doesnt deliver enough power to charge and use the camera. It will charge, but the battery will deplete while using it. Thats why you need the USBC 9v 3a power delivery
@@keith-knittel appreciate it
So I am assuming once this build is built, I can attach it to a shoulder rig set up?
You could attach the shoulder rig to the bottom of the rod holders. I don't use a shoulder rig much, but there are mounting points on the bottom
Could you forgo the QR plate and mount the QR receiver sideways to attach to the cage itself?
Hey there Adam, can you clarify what you mean by mounting the QR receiver sideways to attach the cage itself? Do you mean don't use the Quick release plate at all and attach it straight to the base plate with rod clamp?
@@keith-knittel I've got a similar cage from smallrig and the base has the Arca 'grooves' (no idea what they're called). Wondering if the set up will still work by ditching the quick release plate all together and mounting the cage directly into the receiver? In my mind, the quick release receiver could grab the cage if rotated and mounted 90 degrees. I'm trying to mitigate height issues and sometimes weight balance issues with a gimbal.
@@adamtdeen I understand what you mean now - unfortunately I don't have the cage with the arca swiss grooves at the bottom to test that out. I'll try to pick one up and let you know though, thats a good question. It looks like there is a A7IV/A7SIII cage with the arca swiss grooves built into the bottom of them from small rig, is that the one you have?
@@keith-knittel I've got the smallrig cage for the canon R. Seems pretty similar.
Question... If where to do this setup on my A7IV will it work?
Hey there, I just made a rig video about the a7iv on my channel! Most of the parts are the same but with a few differences, go check that video out for more details!
that 8v cable appears to be too short when following this set up. Am I doing anything wrong?
Hey there, the short 8v cable is just long enough in my setup to power the monitor from the v mount battery plate. If you move the battery plate too far back or lean it too far backwards with the articulating arm it won’t reach. The cable is just king enough how I use it. Is your setup different than mine here?
The link for the 8V cable isn’t directly to anywhere specific now, anyone know which cable was used here?
Hey there Jake, that link should be directly routed to the product - It's a localized link so if that product isn't available in your country (or you're using a VPN to another country) it may not show up correctly? Which country are you in? I made this link in the US and it's working for me. Sorry about that! Will try to get that updated. Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
@@keith-knittel Hey Keith! That would explain in, I’m in the UK and we do tend to have a lot of products that don’t show up here. No problem at all and thanks for replying! I loved this video and the rig, I’ve brought about 90% of the products here for my own 😊
Love the videos. Just a heads up the audio is really clear but it has a weird sound to it. Almost as if your talking into a can
Thanks for the feedback! I recently was moving some stuff around and took down some of my sound treatment in my room, so it's echoing in here. Thats what youre hearing, I'll get that sound treatment back up in my room! Sorry about that!
@@keith-knittel no worries just helping out a fellow content creator! Need a mic for my new channel that has 900 subs and your mic video really helped😃
@@soflo_cini Glad to help out and good luck on your RUclips journey!
So you have a regular Sony battery in your camera during this set up and not the dummy battery right? If the 9V battery is disconnected Will that cut the power temporarily to your camera?
Hey there Taylor, if you're using the dummy battery and power cuts out - the camera will turn off to the camera. If you're using a 9v 3a USBC power bank and have a sony battery in the camera and the USBC cable is removed, you'll not lose power and use the cameras internal battery. I go over this more in my Sony Powering Options video and my A7IV rig video!
@@keith-knittel thank you for explaining it. Sorry if I missed this part but does the battery you’re using here also charge the battery in my Sony camera? I was about to buy the Came-TV V Mount batteries but may end up getting the one you’re using instead.
@@Lovemore7 I go over that more in this video: ruclips.net/video/rEoxYT85GGk/видео.html if you're on a budget and wont be moving around much, dummy batteries will work. If you're moving around a lot and want to have a fail safe in case your battery gets disconnected, going with one of the FX lion or v lock batteries that has a 9v 3a port and having a battery in the camera is the way you want to go. Hope that helps!
@@keith-knittel It does help thank you so much!
I’m going to be shooting a MMA fight so I’ll be moving quite a bit in and out of the cage for each round. I need something that will last 6-8 hours of filming. Last question 🙋🏾♀️ 😁 I watched your other video and you mentioned the 9v 3a usb output. But I can only find a 9v 2a usb output. Is that the same thing or similar?
@@Lovemore7 That sounds AWESOME! Send me the footage when you're done! You'll definitely need the 9v 3a batteries to avoid that battery of the internal camera running down. Those batteries are more expensive, of course 🙄, and you'll need multiple of them to get through an 8 hour continous shoot. Good thing about this method though is that you can hot swap the V mount batteries and not need to stop recording or shut down your camera to unplug/switch v mounts with your internal battery installed. Check out this v mount battery life test video where I tested the Nano Two with my A7SIII and Ninja V if youre using a ninja v recorder: ruclips.net/video/GxUYckJI1VQ/видео.html (I swear I'm not just trying to send you down a rabbit hole of my videos!)
Do you build your rig before going to a shoot or do you do it when you get there?
I know this is an older comment, but I typically keep a rigged out camera in a dr bag when transporting it. Way easier to build it in the office so I don't forget anything, then I take it to the set
@@keith-knittel thanks for the info! I’m in college and am starting to go to shoots and haven’t fully figured out the best strategy to transport gear, so this is helpful to hear.
1.) what about audio?
2.) why use an external recorder and then record internally with the button on the handle?
Hey there, purposely left out the audio and made an entire video about it here! ruclips.net/video/pEQ_fNNfbMw/видео.html
For external recording, I'd be recording 12-bit RAW. Great for color grading and pushing the footage, but I don't use this for every shoot. The files are massive!
Are u giving away any rigging equipment for the Sony a 7iii?
Not at this time, sorry. Anything you'd like to see though?
The only problem is that the touch screen Auto Focus is gone
It may be a stupid question but do you put the microphone ?
Hey there, not a stupid question! I purposely left out any audio for this and made a dedicated video about the microphones I use for this setup, check out my microphones for filmmaking video!
@@keith-knittel Thank you so much.
The Kondor HDMI chord you showed in the video WILL NOT do Pro Res Raw at 60 FPS, only at 24 FPS. You need to purchase the Atomos HDMI cable for that. So do not buy the Kondor Blue HDMI cable.
Update on this, the Gerald undone purple 2nd gen does do 60fps in case anyone saw this comment. My source is Gerald’s video where he discuss that.
You've given me a ton of advice on setting up my gimbal and raven eye. Your light situated on the right is far too harsh for your skin tone. Its not a pleasing look here, unlike your other videos. Keep up the great work!
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Yeah - I agree. Was trying something with those lights and not a huge fan of it either. Thats the beauty of RUclips and trial and error! Thanks for the honest feedback and kind words, I do appreciate it!
Great video but sorry wtf is with the audio. Constantly you hear something ding when you start talking
I moved my office around and moved my sound treatment for this video - other videos are better. My bad on this one.
Good video, but what the heck is up with the audio? some really weird reverb or something like that. makes it unbearable to watch without skipping
smaller and lighter
The bigger rig can be overkill sometimes for sure.
The: pronounce it "thuh" when the next word begins with a consonant sound, and pronounce it "thee" when the next word begins with a vowel sound.
Thank you.
Thanks for pointing this out, I know this but at some points I just completely forget to reinforce this. Will try to do better.
Dude, why don't you remove the overexposure on your face and hands?
Bro, I'm pale af
theres a resonant frequency when you're using ur shotgun in that room it's so distracting i literally can't watch the video which is a bummer cause it looked like a sick build.. :(
Bro your audio sounds like morse code in this video beep beep beep.
Hi Keith … just signed up for your email list and really appreciating your work on these videos. Just pricing out this entire list and one question; on the Ninja 5 can touch focus and touch tracking work on the monitor screen? If not do you know of any monitor that will work with my A7s iii (already own this part)…thanks
Hello there Roz, Thanks for signing up! Hope you enjoy! As for the monitor, You'll be able to see what youre tracking with the monitor if you have HDMI Info display checked, but for actually selecting points (even though touch screen monitors are "touch screen") you'll have to tap the target on the screen of the A7SIII to start tracking. This is a limitation of the camera, I hope this helps!
@@keith-knittel Thank you for responding to my question!
@@keith-knittel Approximately how much does the full rig weigh …thank you Keith
It's okay to power the camera from 5V usb output from vmount battery directly to camera usb-c port ?
What Vmount battery are you using?
@@keith-knittel green cell 14,8 95w with 5v usb and d-tap output
@@marvis10 sorry, just saw this. I'm not familiar with that battery, but to power the a7S III without any drain on the battery, you'll want to use a 9v 3a battery. You can use a 5v battery, but it will only extend the battery life slightly, not run the camera for as long as the battery has power.