Why Are There SO Many Confederate Monuments?
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Origin of Everything takes a field trip to Washington, D.C. and explores the painful history and legacy of America's Civil War. Danielle looks at Confederate and Union Civil War monuments and what spurred their construction after the war.
Special thanks to Sarah Beetham for consulting on this episode.
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Both north and south had slaves hipocrite north and slavery
Only 5 states in the north had slavery whereas every state in the south had slavery.
Edit: I previously said 4 states. I had forgotten that Delaware was also a slave state amongst the border states of Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Missouri.
Seth Bush you spelled hypocrite wrong
Hi just Danielle jumping in here to invite you to read my contribution to this list in regards to the struggle with racial violence and hypocrisy: time.com/5616397/unsung-american-history/
This is a joke right?
If everyone had it back then, and everyone's against it now, all monuments supporting it back then should be taken down. Now.
JFK said “A nation reveals itself not only by the men it produces but also by the men it honors, the men it remembers.”
@Maina Fridman who ?
@@sialehakau1654 ji im
@Rchrd CATX there is slavery today. Human trafficking going on all over the world. Why don't those people get freed? Crying about the past is just an excuse to get more free stuff. Every time I turn on tbe tv there are black people on most every channel. Every time I go to the store I see black employees. I see more homeless white people everywhere. I see college grads unable to get a job. Racial equality should be for all humans, not just one group that were never slaves themselves. If you dig into history, what group didn't at one time in history experience injustice? Jesus was falsely accused and tortured, and crucified. Does that give me a right to demand reparation because I believe in His truth and salvation of the human race? Instead of rioting, looting and tearing down other people's history, I try to learn more about it. It's the past. I'm Native American. I am proud of my history, I respect the rights of others to feel free about there's. Free speech should be valued. We should respect each other. Why are people yelling and acting like intolerant idiots to people if they want respect? The Statues at Mt Rushmore inspired Native Americans to commission a statue of Crazy Horse. It is the largest of it's kind in the world. Our casinos have museums inside of our history and our proud people. We don't knock down other people's museums. Instead of disgracing yourselves, teach your future generations to act like citizens of the United States of America instead of terrorists and communists.
You should read a history book and learn why people actually fought in the war
@@sialehakau1654 Micheal Jacksom RIP 🥺🙏🙏
The part that makes me the saddest is that Robert E Lee himself was very open about his not wanting any monuments to the losing side of the war.
@Matthew Chenault No, he was actually quoted as saying something to the effect of losing sides don't get monuments. He was a West Point grad, after all, and knew his militry history.
@Matthew Chenault - No. It was specifically about monuments to the losing side being bad. It was a big meme on FB a couple years back. But you go ahead and wate your time thinking you're right. As for the war itself, he was right about the losing side needing to get over it. They were on the wrong side morally, it's been proven with blood shed, move on.
@Matthew Chenault OMG dude. You wasted that much time and energy trying to prove a random stranger wrong on social media>>> That's sad. Grow up, get a life, learn to be a happier person, or whatever the hell your problem is. It's simply not mentally healthy to be this heavily invested in proving someone you don't know and have never met to be wrong. I sincerely hope your mental outlook gets better for you. Or not. But whatever works for you to find a better perspective on life...vaga con dios.
A wise man and that would of been a good move ...but sadly the very people who were Democrates back then and founders of the KKK are the very people trying the very same political shenanigans today. Using race as an issue. This is toi build upo to a bigger battle plan for today ....TRUST ME I live in the UK and their was no and still isn't racial tensions only what the Pol;itical Left and Social Just Warriors create. This is a tactic they use any issue make it racist and shut people downm. they shut down the southern state topic of also fighting to be independent sovreiogn nations and not forced into a federal union is just as much the reason why they fought. But The Democrates don't promote that side of history ...as today they are trying to abolish sovreginty in the USA with open borders....see the LEFT play a long long pol;itical game.... Europe know that too well the USA is still learning this lesson out. Nothing the L:eft do is haphazard.
Mary Temple He was humble. Those who don’t ask for monuments, deserve them
Why is this channel so underviewed? This video's so interesting, informative and well-made.
They can't handle the truth
Rational discord on charged topics- guessing audiences prefer unsubstantiated position videos they can either celebrate or rage against.
Evil Otto Yeah, I wish people would all just calm down and talk through things on equal ground.
It's a PBS thing. You know -- "educational". Yukk!
Gimme The Dukes of Hazard or The Apprentice any time. (An uneducated public is unruly enough -- we don't need wise-guys in the general population.)
Because its all lies and thats from northern written history not wikipedia
"Make no monuments to the Confederacy, it will only breed bitterness." Robert E. Lee
He was not just opposed to Confederate monuments, people in favor of removal greatly manipulate what he says. He opposed civil war memorials in general, as he saw the division between the North and South.
_Brava!_ I may not agree with every bit of her analysis, but I have to say she did a fantastic job. Her script was crisp and concise, and her presentation was authoritative and compelling. Always a pleasure to watch talent people performing at the top of their game. Congrats on superb work.
Not a performance ! ! Ugly American history....
Thank you for citing female historians by name. This channel is good about citing sources. It's a small but simple thing to name everyone, women included, and I appreciate it.
Jillian Romick Build Loretta Velasquez a memorial. Also Josephine
*F E M I N I S T*
BillyFreeTX First, nobody said anything about genitalia. Second, why don't you ask the people who like to pretend women have never contributed anything to world history?
I think a wonderful way of viewing this debate is to ask, if confederate monuments are meant to remind us of our regrettable past, what other notable unhappy historical events are being highlighted by monuments?
It was stated here that 780 confederate monuments are present in the US. How many monuments are there concerning Japanese internment in WWII? About the loss of aboriginal life and land to westward expansion? Even an event as culturally impactful as the Vietnam war and its veterans and losses is not nearly as well represented as confederate soldiers and their cause, with less than 40 Vietnam war monuments WORLDWIDE. It is clear that if the intent is to inform, then the scale is heavily weighted towards this one historical era. And there may be a reason for that.
I hope this doesn't sound like a case of whataboutism. The issue here is the representation of uncomfortable truths, and as such all of those truths must be considered.
Beautiful argument and a counterpoint to the idea that we, the "victors", just want to erase history. By all means, Southern preservationists should gather significant monuments (not the cookie cutter ones produced by Yankees, though!) into museums and parks dedicated to Civil War history. I wouldn't be against public funds being used for that effort (if the history was presented in a balanced way). It's OK to have Southern pride, even nostalgia in the same way that the English can celebrate royal pomp and chivalry and Catholics can revere priests and the Vatican, while acknowledging and being wary of the dark deeds done under the umbrella of these romanticized institutions.
Andriy Predmyrskyy The truth like the Confederacy was very diverse. Thousands of native Americans, free African Americans, Hispanics, Latinos, and even Asians fought for the confederacy?
Come to Georgia and Tennessee and see all there is about the Trail of Tears.
Seeing as almost every country in the world is hailing aristocrats as national heroes, I'd say, well, a lot.
Kings and queens are the ultimate symbols of oppression, yet you'll find statues of them everywhere.
beautifully put
Criminally underviewed channel. Been saying it for a year and a half. Great information here.
Courney Hallcy No she didn’t mention the extreme diversity in the Confederacy. Should’ve mentioned Stand Watie or Loretta Velasquez
Baylor Smith why? I mean it’s the losing side. We don’t focus on the losing side in any conflict other than this one. Germans don’t have statues up of Hitler.
Watching in June 2020. I wish more people would learn this information!
It would be good to learn the Skewed and Bigoted and selective education of these persons who spew Opinion.
@@derekmcquaig1894 What do you mean by that?
@@nicholasscrewyourbutthurto4 I think he is saying you need a college degree to understand it. lol Hardly
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Except it’s wrong. These statues were put up by the families of the dead and wounded to remember them. That’s why we have monuments for every war.
Many confederates like Lee, Beauregard, Maury, Castleman, Mosby, Longstreet, Jackson, and so on were anti slavery and U.S veterans
“Money and not morality is the principle of commercial nations” Thomas Jefferson - letter to John Landon 1810
Two of my great-grandfathers fought for the Confederacy. It's a past that both of them wanted to leave behind. I am so glad to see these statues coming down. The statues, and the Confederate flag, are hurtful to many US citizens and are an embarrassment to our country.
People came from all over the world to see Monument Avenue!
So u are saying he wanted to continue the enslavement of people and u are also a racist. 🤮🤮
@@southernman5839 you are a dope lol
Other countries just shake their heads at this celebration of traitors.
Southern Man no they don’t.
The goal of these monuments where 2. To rewrite History, to make the confederacy look warm and fuzzy. This was the goal of the United Daughters of the Confederacy. Most of these statues went up during reconstruction and the civil rights era as an threat to intergration and equal rights of minorities (as a form of terrorism).
w41duvernay
I look at GAR statues, too.
Had relations on both sides. Even in regiments that faced each other in battle.
I really thought this was posted 9 hours ago not 9 months
I hadn't noticed that until I got to your comment.
U sleep
I am a direct descendant of several Confederate soldiers and I don’t feel like the monuments are appropriate in public spaces. Aside from what the memorials may represent in terms of racism and slavery, the memorials imply that Confederates were United States veterans and they were not. The Confederacy would have gladly taken the aid of Mexico or Europe against the United States if it had been offered; they took up arms against the United States. I also feel like the assassination of President Lincoln by Confederate sympathizers makes these memorials inappropriate. My great-great grandfather felt so guilty after the Civil War that he joined a seminary and became a Presbyterian minister; I don’t think he would even approve of these memorials.
Sorry to inform you that many of the Confederate soldiers and officers were part of the United States military, don't forget Robert e Lee was offered to lead Union forces before the war started
@@ChrisPrice-rr4cybut they forfeited their citizenship to fight against the United States.
World War II is also part of our history. Should we consider putting statues of Hitler and Mussolini in Washington DC?
THANK YOU, that's the only thing constantly going through my mind
🚲 Why ? Were they Americans ?
This was written and presented so well! Thank you.
Konthe wondercow Not really, She didn’t mention how diverse the Confederacy was
@@SouthernGentleman They were UNIFIED in their desire to keep their slave economy. The rest of the so-called diversity is not important unless you want to buy peaches or compare cotton crops.
The CIVIL WAR WAS A SMALL PART ABOUT SLAVERY / MOSTLY ABOUT SUCCESSION
We don’t see hitler statues in Germany why can we do the same why should we worship people who fought for slavery. We should remember them not by statues but in history books and teaching how it’s wrong
Oddly enough, in the last 10 or so years, more and more German towns and villages are erecting monuments to the soldiers of WWII. Commemorating Nazis is (rightly so) quite illegal in Germany. But they are putting up memorials to the men who died in the German armed forces during that time. I wonder if that is okay.
@@clericus9 Citation needed.
Also memorials and monuments arent synonymous
@hanz patinski You sound like a damn fool. Loser don't get to be honored, they were traitors.
I don't think these statues are important but these aren't quite the same as Hitler. Also, they weren't erected for their racist views.
I'm just a bit conflicted about the monument arguments. On the one hand, I do get a bit 'itchy' about denying our history and the commemoration of soldiers - many of whom were small farmers - being negated. On the other hand, I recognize that many of these monuments were erected in bad faith to try and resurrect a very bad ideology. Perhaps these monuments should be in a museum, with the history made plain for viewers, instead of in the public square.
I like that idea, museums devoted to telling the story in a realistic and empathetic manner that addresses the effects on all populations and how these messed up ideas started and spread about race. Like a cautionary tale, which to my mind is the best way to view all wars.
@@aprildawnsunshine4326 I agree with you. Has there ever been a war that young men haven't been eager to join and fight for their 'cause'? As the parent of a soldier who went off to fight in what to me was a very unjustifiable war, I feel a great sympathy for all those young men who fought each other so long ago. A museum would be able to present the history in a fair and as you say - empathetic manner. And definitely, as a cautionary tale.
@Matthew Chenault Well, the fact that many of these statues were erected during Jim Crow and later, the push for Civil Rights, kinda says 'bad faith' to me. Now, I had an ancestor who was a Confederate General and nearly every relative back then fought for the South. I didn't even realize that 'damn' and 'Yankee' were two separate words until I was old enough to read. In fact, growing up, I never heard it called the Civil War - it was always the 'War of Northern Aggression'. I also had a great-uncle who ran the Klan in my area. But as I've grown older, I've come to understand that the 'Cause' was a bad one. Slavery is not something to fight 'for'. So, while I can and do certainly sympathize with the small farmers and all the boys who fought for both sides; I just feel the best place for these monuments is in museums, where some historical context can be given to the story of the War. That's just my opinion.
@Matthew Chenault I'm not sure what you mean by that. The South fought the War over the right to own slaves. This is not a moral cause.
@Matthew Chenault And I get that - I hold no animosity toward the soldiers. As I said; I have a son who fought in a terribly unjustifiable war, and I have no animosity toward him or the others who fought that war. But, if I was a POC, I would find statues in public spaces, put up during Jim Crow and the Civil Rights years, to be terribly offensive. So, I still believe museums are the best places for these monuments. That way, nothing and no one is 'forgotten' - just placed in and given historical context. I'm in no way a historical revisionist - the Civil War was as defining a period of US history as was the War of Independence - perhaps, even more so.
The US have memorials commemorating those who had fallen during the 9/11 crisis. But not one is honoring the attackers. No statue of Bin Laden, as far as I know.
proof that bin laden was the one behind 9/11?
@@fartgander5851 lmao
But we still have statues of Confederate Traitors
Though it pains me, I have multiple relatives whom were high ranking officers in the confederacy and I was born in the south with the notion of "southern pride". Growing up this is what is taught, at least from where I am from in Tennessee. You are taught a different variant of the civil war, which in many cases is extremely biased towards the confederacy, ensuring the confederate cause as one being noble and for hearth and home. The view of the confederacy and furthermore of the war has been twisted as time has passed by organizations such as the daughters of the confederacy and then censorship by some state governments such as Georgia to propose anything that is deemed as "hurtful" or "defaming" that is written about southerners or the confederacy in history books. This has, in many ways, twisted the view of southerners in general about the purposes for the war from being a war about slavery and states rights, to being a war that is merely a patriotic one about states rights. This is why many people in the south are opposing the tearing down of these monuments as they in particular only see them as commemorating the southern cause and to remember their fallen. For most of them, from what I understand they are in opposition to slavery, and only see the monuments NOT as a monument involved with such as institution...however this is the truth.. The way that I see it, most of these monuments are of a cause that is, thankfully, lost and need to STOP being viewed as symbols of southern pride in general. Whilst I am a down to heart southerner, and like I mentioned before, have multiple relatives including brigadier general John S Pegram who fought for the confederacy; I now see the confederate cause as one being of a rebellious nature towards our AMERICAN ideals in general our retrospective of freedom for all, and holding on to these beliefs is keeping us from moving on and recognizing our identity as Americans. For those who view the statues as being "commemorative towards their patronage", remember that there are other Americans who DO NOT see these memorandum as such, and for them these monuments bring back centuries of pain through oppression... there is nothing wrong with being southern or being patriotic towards your state...but we are all Americans and need to stop the ideals of seeing Northerners, and any other Americans sub-culture groups for that matter, as being different from us. We are all supposed to care for eachother regardless of creed, background, or even religion, and start to see eachother in a different light.
Garrett Shelby wow nicely said!
I agree with you. I am from the NE. I am 54 years old. I have never looked at the south as any different than the North. The Confederate flag or Rebel flag was part of my youth. I saw it on Rock and Roll T shirts, It was painted on the Dukes of Hazard car. It meant southern pride. I never thought the southern states were racist or enemy of the North. The war was over. I believe we changed with the times and our symbols change with us. I think destroying statues and banning flags is actually a step backwards.
@@Capronice Wow. That's literally the opposite of what he said.
@@sundalongpatpat 😂😂so true I was thinking the same thing lol
@@sundalongpatpat Thanks! Capronice you need to reread Garrett Shelby's comment.
Excellent video! This is a difficult story to talk about. Thank you for the hard work.🙂
Greg Hartwick No she forgot to mention the Confederacy’s extreme diversity. Like Stand Watie
In my humble opinion, these topics are only difficult to talk about because it's the painful truth but if this nation is to every trully move on past it's ugly, racist, violent and hypocritical past then we need to be able to face it wholeheartedly and honestly.
No more sweeping our past sins under a rug and continuing to dismiss the contributions of ALL it's citizens.
The Confederate and Union Civil War monuments should be kept in a museum
Mahinda Githaiga Memorials are museums, just outside
@@bowen1704Bowen yes, but I was thinking of an enclosed museum with walls and a roof.
Mahinda Githaiga Doesn’t sound like a space savor.
Also it sounds like it’s hiding local and national history
Mahinda Githaiga Feels like trying to hide a pyramid. Not for it
@@bowen1704 good piont
They belong in a museum with the backstory. You have to want to see it.
They could be put on the battlefields of the South and a admission charge to see them. That would up keep the statues and no taxes will pay to maintain them.
If you don't want to see it then look the other way, you control where your eyes go. Don't choose to look at it if it offends you, it's really not that hard.
@@stonewalljackson5692 I agree! I would never had thought in my lifetime that I would have seen people destroy American history and get by with this. It’s so ridiculous to think any statue would hurt people’s feelings and take them down. I know there’s statues out there that I don’t like but I know others do like them and you don’t have to look at them. The statues should have had rights of their own . They were placed there years ago.
Jim I like to ask you something? The statues were made to be publicly displayed and were placed years ago. All of the sudden none of them are worthy to stay outside in public so they take them down. How many statues have ended up in a museum so far? My guess would be none. That is why most of us did not want them taking down and it’s history.
@@73beetle19 bro did you not watch this video ?? These statues rose during periods of civil tension, in order to send out a public message upholding confederate beliefs
There are so many Confederate monuments for the exact same reasons there are so many Union monuments. The first wave of monument building was in the period 1875-1915 coinciding with aging veterans starting to die off and the numerous Civil War reunions that were taking place. The second wave of monument building was during the period 1958-1966 which coincided with the Centennial of the Civil War which was a national celebration over an almost six year period.
It is the same reason we erected so many WW2 monuments around 25-50 years after the war ended.
Must be the only way the Old South has to remember itself.
there are not as many today, as there were yesterday : )
You are right, but there shouldn't be even one standing.
@@danielgonitie3075 Oh I found a❄️ that can't accept history. If you forget history, it won't change anything. The statues are to remember history, not racism.
@@JasonSmith-ot8sf That's why we have the fucking books
Alekdik and the”Fucking Statues” crybaby...
@@JasonSmith-ot8sf by honoring Losers?!? you don't get a trophy for losing! you also lose that stupid flag! your flag is the white one loser!
Thanks for helping out a student who's dedicating his long term task to this subject
@james colvin You're a little late for that. Got a B though
Confederate monuments, the very first participation trophies.
Classic.
Most of them are gravestones for the bodies never found.
Egalitarianism is only required because of the failure to provide an effectual education (learn from history).
@Fanta Graham
He meant trophies for losers of a war.
@@rayfiore7779 No, dear. Egalitarianism is required because, as was said so truly, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I should think the history of slavery in America, especially as described in the slave narratives, would explain that.
History shouldn't be forgotten but evil shouldn't be celebrated either
I once felt that why is it that defeated faction are celebrated in this way, there should only be statues for the Union. Then I was educated by a teacher that the statues by itself should still stay in order to remind us that fighting within ourselves we can never stand.
I'm paraphrasing Abraham Lincoln's house divided cannot stand qoute . I sort of like this quote little more. "I do not destroy my enemies when I make them friends"
coldcrashpictures has a great 2 part video called "Should We Still Be Watching Gone With The Wind" about the ridiculous arguments people make about the Confederacy. Especially about how much bullshit revolves around why the civil war was fought.
@Matthew Chenault That's just a long way of repeating the old falsehood that the Civil War was started because of states' rights.
No, it was about slavery. It wasn't the match and it wasn't just "the issue of the time". It was the whole reason the war started, why it endured, and how it came to an end. If the southern States had agreed to end slavery or had not been slave states to begin with, the Civil War would not have happened.
Matthew Chenault No, it’s more like, “saying the Civil War was NOT about slavery is like saying US military involvement in the Middle East is NOT about oil.” It’s an absurd claim that oversimplifies what slavery actually was.
You’re trying to pretend as if slavery was a small part of the slave states culture, when in reality, slavery permeated EVERY aspect of Southern culture.
Slave labor was the MAIN reason the South had any sort of economic prosperity, and products produced by slave labor were the South’s only means of establishing international relationships. If slavery was abolished, the South would have suffered from economic recession since they would not have been able to produce products as cheaply, and there would be no reason for the European powers to care about Southern concerns.
Slavery was not “just another issue of its time.” It was a core aspect of slave state culture, economics, and politics, and the need to maintain it overshadowed every major decision made by their governments.
@Matthew Chenault That is exactly what the video I recommended is. A well constructed piece by someone who was raised as a child of the Confederacy so to speak. Also I'm a seventh generation Texan, i've got family who died in every war the US has ever fought. But I also celebrate Juneteenth knowing that my ancestors helped create and sustain a system of dehumanization that still echos through our culture to this day. Knowing what we know now, it is important to address the mistakes, transgressions, and downright cruelty that people like me have benefited from and try to bring some semblance of balance back onto the scales of Good and Evil. And part of that is videos like this that show how people we love can do terrible things but covering up their sins and acting like it never happened or worse, that they were actually in the right all along, only continues a pattern where Man cannot learn from its mistakes and so is doomed to repeat them forever.
public law granted US veteran status to all the soldiers in the Confederacy. wise up.
uhhh no shit. how does that make this moral? wise up, you are missing the point
@Matthew Chenault F' that poem... what's tragic is the mental illness of those who fought for the right to rule over another human being simple because of pigment.. PIGMENT!...there is no honor in that. Deal with it if you don't share those views this is simply information. Stop being fragile.
That maybe true but how many statues have you've seen of union soldiers? Also, these statues and monuments of the south were meant to act as intimidation towards Blacks in the South. Also, the daughters of the confederacy influenced what would be in the history books in the South. There is a lot that everyone should know about the daughters of the confederacy and how they contributed towards organizations like the KKK and other racist bigoted organizations. The statues and monuments in the South were meant further White Supremacy in the South.
And also to the soldiers representing the United States.
Omg she is one of them.
It is a part of our history. It should not be honored but remembered.
But, the people who want those monuments there do exactly what you said shouldn't be done - they honor them. That was the whole purpose of erecting them in the first place. Even Lee said there should not be any confederacy monuments erected. Then why honor the men who tried to destroy America in order to keep the institution of slavery running? The monuments are not needed to remember that part of history. Pick up a book like Shelby Foote's 3 volumes of the Civil War, that tells you history, not stone monuments of traitors.
Its proper place is in the history books only. No glorified monuments, school names, street names and names of Army bases.
Osie01, John green, is it not right to honor United States veterans? That what confederate soldiers are according to the U.S. government
We should make more statues of Native Americans
@@PinHeadzBlackson There used to be many statues of Native Americans in the US .... until the racist DEMOCRATS used statue head altering technique to turn them into statues of Confederates during KKK times... remember at the time DEMOCRATS were the party of racists and KKK and vandalised our Native American History, Turning them into Confederate statues
Your Voice is so good for these kind of documentaries.
I appreciated this video. Thank you for your presentation.
It could also be that people wanted simply to honor their dead, to give higher meaning to such a tragedy. Over 600,000 American dead. White, Black, North, South, rich, poor, men, women, children forever scarred. To this day the nation feels it more than any other conflict other than the Revolution.
The Acient Egyptians held slaves, but no one suggests we destroy or hide the detritus of their civilization. The Romans, and Greeks, who gave us ideas like democracy and republics, held slaves, conquered in war, knew defeats, but we do not destroy their monuments, or assassinate their legacy and character in an attempt to make a contemporary political point, or prove our higher morality.
We know what those who fought the American Civil War were like, what they were about, their aspirations, intentions, and objectives for better and for worse.
What's troubling is how there is this need today to eradicate them, the history, the memories with cold, contemptuous, calculated censorship.
I cannot imagine going to an 18th century monument anywhere that commemorates HM George III or the British Army and destroying it, because they were once our enemies in war, whose mission was to prevent our pursuit of Independence.
I wouldn't deliberately destroy a bust of Stalin, Mao, or Hitler despite my conviction that these men were as close to monsters and tyrants as humans can be, because that would testify to my character and condemn me to be little better.
If the Union could be restored, if North and South could make peace, if all Americans can now live free, then perhaps it's time to put this past to rest, learn from it, so as not to repeat it, and let the dead be. What can be gained by fighting this war over and over? Are we so petty, feeble minded, and weak that the mere sight of a stone or statue can drive us into an emotional rage?
What's next? Shall we desecrate graves, disinter all Confederates, smash their head stones, scatter their bones, and dance on the plots? It wouldn't hurt them, they wouldn't know, but it would hurt us, and we would know that America has lost its mind, it's decency, and that we enthusiastically admit to being unworthy of human dignity, beneath magnanimity, and openly invite future generations to defile our memory, because we said it was OK.
MAC VENA
Well said.
Cool story!
They say that history is written by the victors, but this is an exception.
I guess we should remove the Vietnam Memorial since we lost that war as well.
Jay Bunny No south Vietnam lost.
We need some monuments to IRA Provos.
If the Vietnam Memorial was located in the middle of My Lai, I'm pretty sure it would have been torn down.
@big ian north and south aren't different countries, smh. Confederate states articles of Succession state is was about keeping the status quo regarding the owning of other human beings as property, sorry, civilized America is lacking empathy for your southern heritage and the sacrifice your loser Confederate soldiers
Stfu
"It is a misfortune for the dead man , that his enemy survived him , and wrote his story" Friedrich von Schiller
If people are worried about the history of the civil war and the statues then put them in a museum with information about the person the statue was made about so that the history is still there
“ I am a little uneasy about the abolishment of slavery in this district of Columbia“March 24, 1862 letter to Horace Greeley from Abraham Lincoln
Because the men of the south who fought for the Confederacy are the great, great grandfathers of 1/3 of Americans
When they found for the Confederacy they were considered traitors. Now you want to make them look like heroes.
@@harrietsnowden4478 Well then Lincoln and the North shouldn't have accepted them back into the US if you're going to use that argument. You forget that Lincoln "DID" bring them back into the country, and you have a problem with that. Just like blacks "hold onto" their history, then Southerners should be allowed to "hold onto" theirs, too.
X Bruh it took a whole war and multiple battles and the most American deaths in a war to “bring them back” plus Lincoln was killed for this . Stop glorifying these traitors
What great? Great for enslaving people ? Ha
People act like alot of these men don't also have a lineage of black decendants due to rape.
Why are they no black statues in southern states if it's just about celebrating their way of life and their heritage? Keep them all. But put up black statues alongside each Confederate statue to celebrate the black heritage that was also part of the south. Simple! I'm sure southerners would all love that.
I'm from the South and I'd be cool with that. I agree with you, that we need statues of famous black people from the South. I'm from NC and we have a statue of MLK in Raleigh. Lawrence Joel Coliseum in Greensboro and the Civil Rights museum there as well. More would be good.
There’s Tupac and Evers, but yeah, should be much more.
You can't put statues of good people next to the criminals. No, big NO. Confederate is proven treasoner. DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.
Thank you for the plain explanation of the title question, "where did all these monuments come from". The discussion about why they're still there is still timely.
The comments crying "but how else will we remember history unless we leave obviously racist monuments on public land" when museums, history books, history videos and TV shows, etc. all exist... is disappointing. The statues belong in museums with context, or removed to private land if they're privately owned, if anywhere. If you paid attention to the video, they're literally advocating for white supremacism and I should hope none of you want that promoted to the public by your government today.
Put them in museums with other like-statues with a picture of where they used to be and an explanation of why it was moved. That is still preserving history.
Maybe so...it was just a thought for a compromise but I can see your mind is made up. No biggie...you're entitled to have an opinion.
She explains with so much energy and enthusiasm, in every single video. It's so admirable!
I want to hire her just so she can explain things to me all day.
I’m glad to see that people are taking these down, we don’t honor traitors and slavery defenders.
The north north had 5 slave states, Grant was a owner, 70% of the south didn’t have slavery, many Confederates were anti slavery, and confederates were U.S veterans of 4 wars.
They’re being taken down, because America’s education in history is practically none.
@@bowen1704 Still no argument to justify confederate statues and flags.
The South literally rewrote history thanks to the United daughters Of The Confederacy.
Their textsbooks were given to kids in schools on how happy slaves were.
Many slaves fled to the north. Without slavery the southern economy was nothing.
@@tibodeclercq2131 Wrong. Marxists rewrote history to view all confederates as evil slave owners and the Union as angels coming to save the day. 70% of the south didn’t have slavery
The tariff sought to protect northern and western agricultural products from competition with foreign imports; however, the resulting tax on foreign goods would raise the cost of living in the South and would cut into the profits of New England's industrialists.
Winston Churchill said, "history is written by the victors." Here in the US, we have an exception in the case of the American Civil War. This video is from last year, but its message is an answer to the questions being asked by recent events. What's the deal with all the Confederate iconography that's so prevalent today? When did this all come about and why?
james colvin good thing no one’s trying to forget the past. They’re just taking confederate monuments down
Great work! Really enjoyed your video. I'm from Michigan but I had the opportunity to tour most of the major southern cities and see most of these monuments before many of them were taken down. It was always a subject of fascination to be able to go back and read about the events connected to the monuments -- both good and bad.
We had a park named Robert E Lee but changed it to Roland park after a nearby area. And to all the confederate sympathizers, America didn't collapse into chaos
It's a part of History , however like in Germany they Don't recognize The swastika and is against the law . even at that are history should not be forgotten . I've been to Gettysburg several times and it's a great place to learn are history and both monuments of both sides are standings in there memory
There are museums in Germany that display the history very vividly.
Daughters of the Confederacy erected statues all over the south. We have one in front of our Courthouse in Leesburg VA.. All the one here says is in memory of all Confederate soldiers who died fighting. The soldier in the statue isn't any particular person. It's just a soldier. The one here was erected in 1909. It's going to be taken down. The Daughters of the Confederacy want to take it back. I didn't even realize they were still around as a group of people.
Wait they are? I knew they were a thing in the late 19th and early 20th century and had influence over monuments, laws, and most importantly education, but I sort of assumed they wouldn't exist anymore
@@HeadCannon19 They sure do still exist. They took the statue down in front of the courthouse and Daughters of the Confederacy took it back. I didn't know they still existed either until I read this in our local newspaper.
Put some in the cemeteries to honor the people that died in battle.
yeah 6ft under..GOOD IDEA !
Good THINKING. The dead WON'T BITCH.
@Matthew Chenault they already are.
All this monuments belong at the museum, not out in the public.
We have been basing our criticisms of our forefathers, historical
leaders and others on our current social belief system. What we haven’t been
factoring in is that during their way of life…hundreds of years ago, the things
we take for granted and assume today didn’t exist for them back then. Basic technology
and innovation, including functional electricity, plumbing, transportation,
computers, televisions, DVR’s…almost everything we take for granted today, did
not exist during their time. Religious beliefs, superstitions and folklore handed
down through countless generations were the basis of their functional
lifestyles. Technology and the age of information has literally exposed some of
those belief systems as inappropriate. But they didn’t have the benefit of the
information we have today. As such, they were guided by and accepted the status
quo because there was nothing to vet the veracity of their current lifestyle as
we can today. As such, it is somewhat unfair for us to criticize some of their
actions based on our understanding given what we now know. I’m not excusing the
inhumanity of slavery, but I think a certain amount of objectivity has to be
factored into what they knew at that time and their inability to question it.
We really don’t know what was going through their minds at the time. So the
question is: Why would such great people, who performed such great things, do,
and I emphasize the next statement in the context of our current perspective,
such inhumane things to other cultures?
Hitler was also part of German history and I don't see any monuments of him in Germany.
Going to war as a same nation over differences is a bit different to world war and genocide.
The people's of the southern states should be proud their ancestors stood for what they (right or wrong) believed.
After all isn't that what America's about..
Freedoms.
If they are coming down take down valdimir lenn in seattle he is not even american he killed lots of people
From an Irish point of view. I do not think a county should celebrate a civil war. It is the failure of country to come to terms with it's self. An international combustion! Cee from the little haunted cottage in Ireland 💚💚💚🍀🍀🍀
c annett It’s to remember the dead
After my little country took it's independence, we had a civil war. We are Irish so we do remember our ancesters. Like families, countries find stupid reasons to fight among themselves. The argument is best forgotten while remembering you are a family. Cee from the little haunted cottage in Ireland 💚💚💚🍀🍀🍀
c annett 10th Irish Tennessee, Confederate Army
Amazing! Our grandfathers may have fought together! At least two of my grandfathers fought in Irish regiments get this From Tennessee. Cee from the little haunted cottage in Ireland 💚💚💚🍀🍀🍀
c annett Now that’s interesting
New Subscriber and I’m so happy I found this channel! I love your videos, so informative, and well narrated.
If you try to erase the past , it may be repeated.
Because they want people to spend more time on line reading and looking at the photos as well with books.. This gives people more of a learning experience...
The statues should have gone into Civil War museums, along with the Confederate flag. They should never have been erected in public space, and especially not in Washington, D.C. Anyone who fought for the Confederacy, was a traitor and not worthy of celebration. Besides traumatizing African-Americans, they were a slap in the face to Union veterans.
Love your sailor moon shirt at the end btw
Great unbiased historical information. Something we need during times like this.
BS
Unbiased??????? She pushed the bullshit myth that Confederate monuments were erected to protest civil rights or intimidate black people. This has never been proven true.
@@stonewalljackson5692 yes it has been proven true. Also it's OK to be biased if your cause it righteous.
@@dookiebutter6666 Really? Where has it been proven true?
@@stonewalljackson5692 considering a MASS majority of them were erected during two specific time periods, it's pretty obvious why they were erected. Watch John Oliver's "confederacy". It will shine some light on the issue. I honestly think people who rock that flag are terrible people. All it takes is for you look at it from ANY other perspective other that a white hick and you'll realize why it's terrible. Seriously, Germany remembers their history just fine. They don't need military bases named after nazi officers and statues of Hitler everywhere. If those people had their way, I'd be a fucking slave. I understand that you don't care, but that's why black people have something to say about it. Imagine if Jews HAD to go to school with a statue of Hitler in the courtyard?
Considering the Treaty of Versailles set up WWII through being so oppressive, maybe allowing the Confederates to have a few statues as a gentle means to reincorporate them into the Union wasn't such a stupid thing to do.
Thank you for your thorough research.
@@lauraly2712 I was attempting to be encouraging and courteous, so I left out that she did not mention that practically all of this was done by Democrats. The great lie is that Democrats are on the side of Blacks. The Great Society not only bought Blacks' vote, independence, and dignity, it also quietly continued the domination. The great thing is that with heroes like Candace Owens and the Great Disrupter, more and more Blacks are throwing off the chains. It may be difficult now, but the end result will be better for all. With going violent, the Dems only chance at this point is a violent overthrow, and that aint gonna happen. The bottom will fall out, and Communism will have a stake driven through its heart.
The way that I see it is that these monuments should not be in a public place, because public places should contain things that I meant to honor good people who did good things. If we are to keep these monuments, they should be put in their proper historical context. They should be put into museums so that the public can be educated about why these monuments were created in the first place, and why The way that I see it is that these monument should not be in a public place, because public places should contain things that I meant honor good people who did good things. If we are to keep these monuments, they should be put in there proper historical context. Fish be put into museums so that the public be educated about why these monuments were created in the first place, and why they are an extremely that a racist idea.
Ellis Sutton Racist? I wonder what those 10,000 Native Americans confederates, 13,000 Latinos confederates, several hundred Asian confederates, 10,000 Jewish Confederates, and 1,7000 free black Confederates are thinking now.
Ellis Sutton I know Confederate Cherokee General Stand Watie wouldn’t like this nonsense
The monuments should be in a cemetery honouring the fallen
Phil MacGregor exactly. Cemeteries and museums.
Yeah put those heinous monument in the cemetery and bury ever last one of um. Even better, just " Blow Them To Smithereens "
That's the end of that tune....
@@tdragon3573 Uh oh the sensitive twinkle toes can't handle real history. Lets instead put a statue depicting white and black people eating ice cream together in the 1860s that way we can lie to our kids about what really happened.
Leave the statues and if these offend anyone BUILD YOUR OTHER STATUES. Instead of tearing down others property, use the energy to build statues signifying that these mobs are civilized!
Many of the Southern Monuments went up when the US Congress passed a Law Saying ALL Soldiers in the Civil war were now American Veterans !!
History ain't supposed to be comfortable, it's supposed to be a teaching tool
So Germany should have statues of nazi soldiers?
Very Nice! You have laid it out for all the world to see.
What a beautiful, intelligent historian. Thank you for this truthful and informative piece ,please do more.!!
She's not a historian she's a video maker ... this video is false by the way it includes ANIMATED CGI
CELEB ALERT! So what? The factual content was correct.
When people try to argue that the Confederacy fought for states’ rights, I ask them “states’ rights to do what?”.
These are the same fools that wouldnt have a problem digging up Arlington cemetery
Not as many as there used to be
The south had EVERY legal right to secession,read the Paris treaty of 1783,the Federal government became an agent to the 13 colony's in 1787 and the colony's were the primary which gave each individual colony's "IE" states the right to succeed,an act of congress on 1957 recognized Southern soldiers true American veterans just like the North.
I love this video. I enjoyed the presenter very much. She is a star.
So. Good. Lots of great info in this episode that I never knew!
Also, great Sailor Moon shirt!
pingosimon She forgot to mention how divorce Confederacy was
Southern... WHAT is divorce confederacy.??
A lot of those monuments came a 100 years after the fact
Yes due to reconstruction they weren't able too. Only after were they allowed to do so as a way to heal the nation.
One was dedicated in 2010 of May.
27 years after slavery was abolished...
Ever asked yourself how the reconstruction and rebuilding of the South, not to mention the lack of finances, factored into an inability to erect monuments, which were memorials to the dead, "after the fact" until money could be raised??
Renee Sullivan ever asked yourself why honor racist traitors?
Very very proud southern people that were absolutely out numbered in the civil war but fought on on.
You are so good at making these videos. They are so interesting and informative, I thank you for teaching me.
"The Lost Cause still endures in the 21st century because it serves many sentimental and racial desires in the present." - David W. Blight. Professor of American history at Yale University.
I would not trust too many of those professors they are mostly commies.
Wasn't Yale founded by a slave owner named Elihu Yale?
Unless we act quickly and DECISIVELY with our votes,voices and feet our dreams of sharing a fair and free, democracy for all (actually) will become “The Lost Cause” of the new century.
trump’s best friends are still waging the Cold War from Russia and North Korea but folks are worried about “commie”college professors. He could end up like most ousted dictators who (as their regimes crumble and die) flee into exile to avoid prosecution and incarceration.
@Vlad the guru there are numerous statues of Elihu Yale. And an entire University seeded by funds procured from the slave trade. Soooo....I'm guessing the point is that all has to go too.
They should be used as teaching moments not to be taken down. If you try to erase history you are doomed to repeat it.
I love this girl. I could listen to her all day. The explains things in a way that anyone could understand. She has such a natural delivery.
Shes a grown women NOT a girl, you wouldn't call a male narrator a boy,if you claim to admire this women CALL her one
A statue of Alfred E. Neuman would be a big improvement.
What, me worry if there wasn't one?
Would not Confederate statues be on the same page as Scottish statues, monuments and holidays celebrating people such as Rob Roy, Robert the Bruce, or William Wallace, or the battles of Stirling Bridge, Bannockburn, or Culloden? Perhaps "Bonnie Prince Charlie", and songs such as the Skye Boat or Loch Lomond? It seems to me that honouring the losing side in civil wars often does take place. Am I wrong about this?
It's History of our nation. Keep them up.
Keep them in your closet.
You don’t see Hitler Statues honoring his legacy publicly in Berlin don’t you? So why do we have to a bunch of slave owners in Public? Keep em in a Museum where History Belongs
The statues are American History. they should be in museums though and not on public display.
@@ronniewatkins6465 no ones is talking about that lol
@@pedrocavalcantesantana7378I'm talking about it and it's a fair and valid question. Oh, you don't think that could likely happen? If you look at history, these kind of movements (to cancel culture), don't generally achieve one specific goal and then stop. They just keep rolling. That's the whole point of when people bring up "The slippery slope".
@Thomas Johnson That's just your opinion that it's goofy. This does involve the government and i know exactly what a slippery slope is.
Except they’re heroes of U.S veterans and defenders of their homes. Keep Union and Southern history
They should be on Public display. So all can learn from all of History; the Good, the Bad, & the Ugly. Especially if one is searching for the truth.
Confederate soldiers, sailors, and Marines who fought in the Civil war were made U.S. Veterans by an act of Congress in in 1957, U.S. Public Law 85-425, Sec 410, which was approved 23 May, 1958. This made all Confederate Veterans equal to U.S. Veterans. Before that, under U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by the 17thCongress on 26 Feb 1929 the War Department was directed to erect headstones and recognize Confederate grave sites as U.S. War dead grave sites. Just for the record the last Confederate veteran died in 1958. So, in essence, when you're move a Confederate statue, monument or headstone, you are in fact, removing a statue, monument or head stone of a U.S. VETERAN.” (a felony)
States rights is mentioned with a plaque to that effect in this video. Many see states rights, 'the cause,' as an extension of white supremacy. However, as part of a larger picture of which slavery and white supremacy were surely a part, is the ideology that the individual in the several southern states did not want the central government sitting in Washington DC acting directly on the individuals in the several states. Here the oft missed issue of sovereignty comes into play where the master servant relationship of the government to the people makes sovereignty a real issue for the southerner, albeit white only. Before the Civil War, the central government(federal in DC) could not act directly on the people; only the state government could. Thus being sovereign, the master as the people were; then the government was the servant of the people.
lol by definition of the very nature of the relationship of government authority either directly or in proxy it is impossible for any state to truly experience "sovereignty" - the states are part of a whole. the whole is the corporation of the usa. this is documented. instead wha the history actually bears out is simple- southern white males in their laziness didn't want to shut down an entire regional agricultural industry that relied heavily on forced free labor on detained Africans and Indigenous americans. end of bed time story. mine is better and more accurate. states rights argument has always been a trash ass smoke signal. white men just wanted to keep black slaves
In actuality but not practice, the concept of "federalism" does empower our States and this power is enshrined in the Constitution.
One thing however that the Federal Government can regulate is interstate commerce. While southern states could ans did have much sovereignty, the slave trade, banned, by both Washington and Jefferson at the Constitutional convention, could be.
Federalism or not, the slave trade was doomed and the South knew it.
This is good stuff -- thanks for the clarity.
As a Southerner, it's frustrating for me that so many people ignore the resistance to the Confederacy in the South. It was far from a unified secession. Eastern Tennessee would be a state, as West Virginia is, if the Union Army had been able to get to that territory sooner. We should be complicating, not simplifying, the history of the South.
Thank you so much for sharing this amazing video. I love the accuracy and depth of your research and the complex history that you share. It is a shame that most public primary schools have removed history from the curriculum. It is a shame that so many are doomed to blindly repeat the past.
Just became a Patron! Thank you and keep up the great work. The work that you and your team are producing is so important and valuable. Thank you so much!
This is one of the best explanations of this topic I've come across yet.
It's also the first time I've heard an actual argument against monuments solely toward soldiers, which I'm admittedly more hesitant about removing. Most of the debate is fixated on the more overtly bad examples, like all the stuff directly honoring and praising people like Robert E. Lee
Yet some people don't want to understand...
This is to remind us not to repeat history.
That’s bullshit and you know it. These statues are propaganda, nothing more.
Excellent video. I love the way she gives information. If she knows Calculus II, I’d hire her as a tutor, lol.
The question should be Why are so many monuments being erased from our history.
I'm pretty sure black people will never forget them. Slavery, Jim Crow and racism I'm sure that'll be in our minds forever
Where's the monument to Hitler? It's part of your history given that so many Americans supported the Third Reich including Henry Ford. The monument to the Confederacy should be some truth in history books and taught to all children instead of pretending it was about "States' Rights" or some other nonsense. The Confed' leaders ALL said it was about slavery and even Lincoln said that he would support slavery if only the South would stop rebelling. How f%ucked up is that?
Why is so much truth being erased by so many monuments?
Because some prick didn’t like what people did in the past so they destroy it.
This isn’t about history or the erasing of it. If that is what you believe then you have been taught incorrectly and don’t care to educate yourself about the truth and admit that you are wrong. Unfortunately you don’t get it and probably never will. And therein lies the problem with so so many individuals. 😞
Let me start of by saying thank you for handling the video and topic gingerly and professionally. Most videos like this today are usually extremely politically motivated and are not trying to expand the conversation, yet shut it down by only saying their point of view has any merit. It seems the main stem of the backlash on these monuments pertains to the time periods to when they were put up. And although it does happen to be around the same time periods and Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movements, we also have to remember what else was happening during these times. First during the late 1800’s to the 1920’s, we are seeing the southern states being accepted back into the union (because this did not happen until almost 2 decades after the war ended in 1865), and like most countries do, they erected statues to the fallen after a war which they couldn’t do immediately due to being under military occupation and economically destitute. With all that being said, not to mention the years around the 1910’s would have been spent celebrating or commemorating the 50 year anniversary. Moving on to the civil rights movement, we have to remember the big elephant in the room as to why these statues were being put up, the Centennial (100 year anniversary)! And granted the time isn't spectacular being that it happens to fall around the time the civil rights movement. Another thing we need to remember, is that these statues widely represent the common soldier and simply the loss of life and nothing else. These were erected by UDC or SCV purely on fundraisers and had little to no political backing.
Now whatever anyone thinks, the question always comes down to their removal, which I believe is unjust for more than just their artistic value. Let's be sure to understand that confederates are recognized by the government as American Veterans. That's why there is a confederate statue and graves in Arlington National Cemetery. Although they were men of their time, meaning they were racist, just like Lincoln and almost everyone else. We cannot condemning those in the past with the laws and understanding of the present, that's just ignorance. However I am for new context being added to the past so people can understand through a transparent lens, the type of people they were. On the topic of removing the past to make room for the present, I firmly disagree. Hiding the past and pretending that it isn't important or as relevant as today is again ignorance, and saying those of the past have absolutely no redeeming values as american or not, is also ignorance. I don't believe that the destruction of halls, memorial buildings, and statues is progressive, but regressive. We should build upon the old, not the ruins of them.
Ian Thompson They couldn’t be put up before the war. They died and their families honored them
They were put up in the Jim Crow era to remind black people that whites are still in power. Artistic value? Lol
Find me a statue of Hitler in Germany. Now find me a German who doesn't know about Hitler. Funny how they dont feel the need to honor the racist psychopaths in their past
@@ramadansteve1715 that's not why they put up the statues man quit making up stuff
@@southernchristianwhiteman6224 Try opening up a history book my dude. You can literally just check when they were built.
There is nothing "historical" about them, and they aren't worth the materials they're sculpted from
Excellent video. We are all paying for the Lost Cause narrative.
Like many who harp about a supposed lost cause narrative being spread, this video is vague on purpose. When looking through this supposed narrative, we immediately run into problems, what counts as white washing the Confederacy?????? What people are calling the lost cause myth is so broad it could encompass essentially anything that doesn't paint Confederates as racist villains.
@@stonewalljackson5692 The Lost Cause narrative tried to explain to the next generation of Southerners why they lost and their noble cause. The damage caused was to the succeeding generations who were fed the Lost Cause narrative by that original generation. They believed in the myth that was pushed onto that first post generation which only further pushed the nation apart.
@@edwardcricchio6106 Every side of war makes things up to fabricate the conflict and make themselves look as heroic as possible and demonize their enemy. Both sides have made things up.
@@stonewalljackson5692 the American Civil War is the first war where the losers got to set the historical narrative of the war. I believe in order to reconcile, the North went along with that narrative.
Superbly done. Thanks much.