Guys, ALL of thes saws, and the 18-24 volt saws were tested at the same time - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee, Flex or any other saw - it was the same day, same tests, same blades, same users, and nothing is different.
We swapped all.of our red, yellow and teal recips for the Metabo HPT 36V monster We got 3 saws for the price of one of the others, plus a free 4/0/8.0 battery for each Noo contest for us Plus lifetime warranty and we do use the AC adapter for this tools for long run times , especially metal in the shop
Have the 40v Makita and it's a beast with all the bells and whistles I might ever need for a recip saw. Adjustable-removable shoe, orbital cutting, speed dial, rafter hook, spring loaded blade ejection, avt works incredible, tons of power. I have no complaints.
Awesome tests sir. I bought the Metabo sawzall on Maxtool on father's day with a rear handle and 8.0 battery for $200 straight up no tax or shipping. Maybe the best deal ever. The rear handle is soso but the sawzall is a standout among the many others I own.
That Metabo HPT kicks the crap out of all our other sawzalls, even corded ones. We have been through all the brands except Flex, and we settled on Milwaukee and Metabo HPT (hitachi). We use them professionally everyday.
I picked up the makita 40v. I run the makita 40v & 18v big tools. And I run the m12 line for compacts. Honestly I think this is the best combination. 1 thing about makita is they are some of the smoothest impacts & saws.
Thanks for the comparison, Rob! I've started a new business and I'm getting into a new tool platform, so I'm scrubbing through several of your videos. I'm on a fairly tight budget, so I'm seriously considering Metabo HPT. SIDE NOTE: You have a lot of patience dealing with all of the prima donna's in the comment sections. Always thankful for your professionalism.
I've been running Milwaukee and Makita for yrs after giving up on DeWalt before that due to poor quality cantrol, burned up motors and below average service We've switch a bunch of our tools over to Metabo HPT over the last 3-4yrs and have been very pleased with power, workmanship, features, elearranty and the AC adapter for the 36V tools that we use for the table saw, mitre saw, grinder, SDS Max rotary hammer, vacuum and a few others-it saves battery life and longevity and allows for all day use when AC power is available Check Acme and Toolbarn as well as Lowes The 36V line are true pro grade tools and many of the 18V are pro grade as well The mHPT/Hitachi nailers have and continue to be the industry standard
@@JimDoubleYa yes I was hoping to get the Barrell grip 36V that was being sold her through ACME but for some reason stopped being available I waited for the Makita to go in sale but never did so ended up with the Milwaukee 18V Fuel barrel grip(it's a monster but cuts great) As far as Metabo HPT woodworking tools The 36V 1/2" Full size router is my absolute favorite tool in the shop and jobsite, the 23 gauge pin, 18guage are good, the rear handle framing saw, 36V sidewinder and 6 1/2 18V all are light and powerful The 36V recipe is the most powerful recip we run Triple hammer impact and 36V Hammer drill have been great and at great prices I er the last few yrs The vacuum is great as it runs off 36V batteries and the AC adapter The 36V table saw has been another favorite on jobsite as it is portable but has the largest workspace/capacity and again can be plugged in with the adapter for thicker ripping and all day run time without waiting for batteries to charge like the other portable cordless out there The new 18V sander is as good as the Milwaukee and the trim router is also comparable to the Milwaukee but each is at a better price The best cordless portable planer is the Ridgid Octane if u can find it otherwise the older Makita or the newer brushless(but you'll pay twice as much, the Metabo HPT planer is solid but not too performer(Milwaukee and DeWalt planers are junk) Hope this.helps Been in the trades for a long time I have many different colors in the shop but mostly running green, red and teal for cordless now with a little orange for some applications
@@JimDoubleYa ACME has best selection and they run promotions each week for different tools so ya gotta check a few times a week Toolbarn has had some sick deals this year as well and Lowes is currently running the 4.0/8.0 Multivolt battery and get a free rear handle, 7 1/4 sidewinder or 36V recip Acme just finished a second round of $50 if u spend $200 which I'm sure they'll run again,
Thank you for yet another impressive and informative tool comparison! I only have experience with a Dewalt flexvolt saw that we bought for professional use about 4 years ago. We do ground work, which include cutting plastic pipes for septic systems and drainage pipes, removal of misplaced limbs of trees, dividing some lumber, and occasionally some demolition work. Perhaps also cutting a few steel profiles. Not that hard work, and very little use during winter months of December to March. But, it can be a harsh environment with rain, dirt, sand and stone flour. Apparently, too harsh for the flexvolt saw, and the first battery burned after 11 months (7-8 months of use). The second battery started smoking after 13 months. We could not get new batteries from either the reseller or Dewalt directly. In truth we could not even get any real answers on this issue. So, we shelved the Dewalt saw and bought a few Bosch GSA 18 V-LI C saws instead. They work great for our purposes and only cost about 1/3 or less to replace compared to the Flexvolt saw (the first lasted about 2 and a half years). I would not recommend using the flexvolt saw in harsh environments. I guess that the batteries (probably the same for many manufacturers) are not sealed from water, to allow better air cooling, but it makes the more complex circuitry of the flexvolt batteries vulnerable to moisture.
Rob @ 7:40 when you show the chart for features you didn’t give the Makita 40V a point for Orbital action. It does have that feature on the AVT model you tested.
You guys make great videos, thank you. Would have been interesting to see the orbital functions ranked. I have the Makita 40v with orbital and it's beast!
These are all great tools & honestly you really can't go wrong with any. It all depends on personal preference. Sure one might cut a hair faster or one might be a fuzz lighter. I really like the Makita 36V tools mainly because you get the 36V power but staying with the 18V batteries.
These tests are very interesting on their own, but I think most of us choose a brand for battery operated tools and stick with it. How about doing a comparison of all the core, essential tools together and compare brands? Maybe a reciprocating saw, circular saw, drill, driver, finish nailer, framing nailer, whatever you think. Just taken as a group, which brand performs best and is well made? Because it won't kill me if I take two extra seconds to make a cut, but it will be very annoying if I run out of power before the job is done and can't simply take a new battery from another tool. That's the beauty of sticking with a brand, even if certain of their tools aren't top performers.
I started out doing small jobs and I had the same mentality on having everything the same brand. Now I have Dewalt on my truck for small jobs but for bigger jobs multiple batteries don't bother me. I get the best tools for the best price regardless of brand. Some of the deals for makita and Metabo were too good to pass up.
Idk about that. I'm on Makita 18V and 40V primarily, 80% of my tools are Makita, but also have Ryobi 18v for home gamer stuff and tools I don't use frequently, and then Bosch 12v and Milwaukee 12v, and then DeWalt 20v to round everything out. I like the flexibility of being able to grab tools everywhere.
I buy what ever I thinks best preferably in a kit form all brand off good options for different tools I like to have options in my tools and wemon but that's a different story.🤔
Since people kept asking for the Milwaukee Fuel to be included, here are the M18 2822-20 results from the test 2 weeks ago compared to these. It should be pretty close since its the same test, 10lb weight and blades used. Pipe - M18 5.63 - HPT 36V 5.73 - Makita 40v 3.55 - Makita 36v 11.0 Unistrut - M18 4.72 - HPT 36V 3.01 - Makita 40v 2.70 - Makita 36v 3.54 Nail embedded wood - M18 32.14 - HPT 36V 53.50 - Makita 40v 30.61 - Makita 36v 40.15 I own the 36v Makita and what i did was have a friend who just needed more batteries and i needed the saw. We bought the kit and split the parts. We both saved money and the saw came out at $145 in July 2020.
nice work! the results are exactly as I suspected and other reviewers have ranked. It is quite astonishing that dewalt for having the flexvolt platform, haven't built a great recip saw on it.
I love dewalt except for recip saws by them. Just been taking away features (no rafter hook, no 4 way blade clamp, no adjustable shoe) over the years with every new model and not even being the best performing. Ive also had issues even with the blade clamp and the blade ripping out of the saw mid cut in multiple models including this flexvolt one. So frustrating. Always in cutting metal never wood but 99% of my cutting is metal. I even bought myself a flex 24v recip saw not too long ago even tho i am super invested in all dewalt 20v and flexvolt. All other flexvolt tools are fantastic tho and i love the platform. Grinder is a monster.
I love your head to head videos. They are so well thought out and well executed. There is nothing I have found so thorough on RUclips. And the results are being compiled by experienced contractors. Because of all this the resulting winners are definitely worth taking a look at. Unfortunately living in Australia we can't get a lot of the models you test. And we can only dream of the prices you mention. But I have definitely bought tools based on your tests. My three main considerations are. Robust and capable worker. Price. Because I am always broke. And ergonomics. So many tools I only have to pick them up and hold them to know I don't like them. Too heavy. Poor balance. Awkward switches etc. Modern safety switches often designed for a gorilla. With small hands and short thumbs some aren't even usable. You cover a lot of these details in your videos. Great work.
At 7:45 you did not mention that the Makita 40v has an orbital function. Doesn't really change the score, but just a note. Also would have been interesting to see how the standard 40v saw would perform, although it would look like a Makita sponsored video.
Makita XGT is absolutely wrecking stuff recently. Their 3/4" impact wrench is head and shoulders above anything else. They have every saw size you could want, and tons of different ridiculously powerful grinders. Possibly one of the best drill/drivers with their electronic chuck, etc... Probably the most powerful cordless vacuums. Only thing that is somewhat lacking is their 40v impact drivers. Haven't really updated those aside from making them compatible with 40v.
Good work! I am looking forward to seeing your Compact (one handed) reciprocating saw Head to Head testing of the latest models! Also, it would be interesting to see the spread in time results from just the top finishers of the three size categories on a couple of timed cut tests.
I love these head to heads. The recip tests are more straightforward so testing complaints should be fewer than some of your other tests that have more testing compromises due to the nature of the tools
How the hell is the Makita 36V significantly slower than the Makita 18V on the 3x 2x10” wood with 15x 16p nails embedded that you tested in your other video? 40.15 seconds for the 36V seconds vs 28.69 seconds for the 18V. I have my doubts about those figures.
another awesome test, thank you a lot! I thought 40v makita gen2 would win but you confirmed it to me :) 40v is a really awesome an underrated tool line
Привет Роб!Купил макиту 40в,эта пила просто пушка,мощность фундаментальная,полностью согласен,что эта сабельная пила самая лучшая и производительная в мире,она номер 1!!!
Another excellent test. I think that you may try to use weighted arithmetic mean when calculating the overall score. It's because some features or performance are more important that the others. So like cutting time performance would have weight of 7 assigned, while mass of the tool would have weight of 3 assigned.
Agreed, when a tool is a 10%-15% heavier but cuts 25% to 50% faster, or even double the damn speed with the metal pipe test, then is the ergonomics score actually lower in real life use if you're sustaining less grip strength and vibration over time? Let alone the fact the XGT already has lower vibration to begin with. Edit: Still love these videos though, as Rob mentions, we can decipher the numbers and narrow down the tool that is perfect for our use case,
It would have been interesting to see the Milwaukee super-sawzall in there. I'm surprised they didnt join in. Otherwise the Makita 40v Max line looks really legit. I've tried some of their tools and they are very impressive. I'm a Dewalt-guy, but would absolutely consider Makita 40v if it were not for my co-workers using mostly Dewalt. I do however own Metabo hpt nailers, since I dislike Dewalt. I also have to say that some of the Metabo HPT tools are really up there! Would love Toolboxbuzz to explore more of the Makita 40v and Metabo hpt-worlds
@concordcarpenter - from years of watching your Head-to-head tests, you are clearly University-educated. You should do a video (as so many less educated Tool RUclipsrs have already done) about your thoughts regarding 'Trade-school vs. University', highlighting (of course) your own experiences. P.S. Congrats on the 1/4M subscribers mark!
I really appreciate your testing, it brings both personal preference, which can be subjective but it's similar to polling people, eventually there is a basic consensus even if the differences are negligible. And much more empirical testing which can show very minor but important or even unimportant differences. Slow mo can mess with people's observations and make minor differences look huge, similar to sports replays. For most people, well, at least me because I doubt I'm special in this regard, is performance is secondary to comfort and reliability until poor performance becomes a liability. I have the 18v Makita brushless recip and was surprised the 36v doesn't have an adjustable guard. One test I would like to see is 18 gauge staplers, or any staplers. They are commonly used but everyone seems to ignore them.
🤟🤟 have the dewalt like all power tools both 18v and 54v. Hook is joke why they don’t have 1. Bricklayer so just use it for demo stuff very good saw. Blade they bend very quickly so not keen spending silly for 1. Blade did get hilti blades to try few bucks dearer but seeming very good. Rob would you favour the diablo over the millwaukie blades ?
The Metabo 36V UVP is the only way to go. It’s the most comfortable to use over long periods of time. Has the best real world vibration control. You get an outstanding ecosystem. The fact you can use you’re 36V battery on your 18V tool Metabo tools. Which you will want to do as you will get more power in the 18V tools using the bigger battery packs due to much less voltage sag. And if you for some reason are burning through a battery faster then every 45 minutes. You don’t really need it but you can plug in, just in case you do. And you get a lifetime warranty with all Metabo tools. You just can’t beat that. Still think the testing should remain fact based as much as possible. Also I feel that there should be some sort of way to blind test the tools. As brandboys will always lean twords the ecosystem they currently use. But that’s just how it’ll be. Once you buy so many of a certain battery and own so many of a certain brand. There is no way to escape. This is why I buy based on spec, function and ease of use. So far I’ve been very happy with every Metabo tool I own. For the price, the functionality and with Metabo having the beta ecosystem when it comes to running your 18v on your 36v battery’s and a lifetime warranty. Nothing is topping that right now. I would like to see some competition though, as it would only force Metabo have to make their tools even better. Along with all the other top dogs in the game. I own a lot of different brands but right now we can all admit, Metabo is killing it in every way all while keeping their price just as good or better then the competitors.
I know the Milwaukee Super Sawzall isn’t in this voltage range, but I think it still belongs in this comparison. It’s competing directly with these saws. When I didn’t see it in the last head to head, I thought it would be in this one. Great video though!
You can certainly compare it - ALL of the saws were tested on the same day - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee - same day, same tests, nothing different.
Oh my bad Rob! I watched the last head to head too, but I missed that the Super Sawzall was in there. I knew there were 2 Milwaukee saws, but neither of them looked like the super sawzall. But I looked up that model number, and it was, so yes, you already compared them. Sorry, I wouldn’t have commented that if I realized it was in the last head to head.
@@ConcordCarpenter but it only had a 5ah or so battery right? Isn't part of Milwaukee's strategy to have higher amp hour batteries to give it more watt hours to compete with higher voltage tools? Am I getting something wrong?
I’m amazed at the results. I have the dewalt flexvolt and the makita 40v . I prefer the dewalt. I feel like speed of cut and brute force are more important when it comes to recip saws and I feel like the dewalt is an animal. The makita seems like it lags behind. However I do like the rafter hook on the makita and do wish dewalt had one. I really like the review and side by side comparison. I will have to grab the makita next time to see if there is a difference. Thanks for the review Rob. Outstanding as usual.
I don’t understand what Dewalt has against adjustable shoes on their recip saws. Even their higher end and newer saws don’t have it. Their old 20v max with the 4 way blade clamp is the only one I’m aware of that has one. And even then it’s kinda sloppy. The Dewalt saws definitely need an update. The power adapter for the Metabo is pretty neat, but they should have the electronic brick in the center of chord. I’d rather see a “wall wart” style plug.
I've been looking for a new Reciprocating Saw for a while now. I'm glad I saw this video, as have no real brand loyalty. The Makita 40volt was impressive enough to make me consider adding another battery set. Wonder if Makita is planning on stepping up to 40v for their higher performance line of tools.
I really like the Metabo HPT recip, hard to believe the Makita is faster! The XGT tools I have all are top notch, I'll keep an eye out for a deal on one of these.
It’s a smart idea to separate higher volt tools, I think that’s a good way to categorize these tests. There is an inherent difference between 18 volts and 36 volts
Does the makita 40v line up better then milwaukee ?? I talk about cir saw , chainsaw, table saw, recipsaw , multitool ,grinder.. woodworking tool actually just wonder
You can go look a the 18v H2H and compare it - ALL of the saws were tested on the same day - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee - same day, same tests, nothing different.
I have been trying to find videos putting the Dewalt 60v saw to a suitable test. Seems that their is a thinking that this is supposed to be a flagship general purpose saw, and it winds up being criticized for lack of general purpose features. I think the lack of speed controls and orbiting are because the saw is intended for a specialized purpose, which is heavy, slow cutting through thick, dense materials. That is why it doesn't perform well when put in competiagainst untreated soft wood. Would you guys consider doing a hard material test? Thanks.
The thing i found fascinating is that the makita 40v was almost 2x as fast cutting in metal but 3 saws finished faster than it in the nail embedded wood test. Why do you think the bigger saws were slower in nail embedded wood?
@@Pepe-dq2ib You can - ALL of the saws were tested on the same day - we separated the high capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee - same day, same tests, nothing different.
@@ConcordCarpenter Yeah but the test heavy-duty so you should have went with the heaviest configuration I know dewalt has that monstrous 15amp battery I don't will use that on a recip saw bur the 12 and 9amp I could see
Get on that XGT lineup, every tool has been pretty damn good so far! The batteries last a long time as well, and no real need to match a certain battery to a certain tool even the 2.5ah runs the rear handle saw and recip saw just fine.
DeWalt fell asleep on FLEXVOLT with SBD acquisitions and trying too hard to roll out many versions of the same tools. I don't know how a pro tool company can roll out a beefy looking recip to come in so dead last, INCLUDING, against lower voltage units.
We both know being in similar fields that’s not how sawzalls are used … First the dewalt 60v top of the line wasn’t used and a 12ah wasn’t used . If you combine those two it blows away the competition and never bogs down under extreme hard use , which is exactly what you do with these sawzalls These tests don’t show real world use . The other two big down under heavy load same as a Milwaukee will or cut out from thermal protection and dewalt does not . The top of the line tool with the highest battery from each company should be used , it’s not desalts fault other companies dont produce the same batteries as they do and they shouldn’t be penalized for it. Dewalt tools are designed to be used with the highest ah battery and used harshly under extreme loads where other companies can’t , that’s the difference!!!
Makita xgt would still win if the biggest available batteries were used. Makita has a 8.0 ah 40v battery which would be equivalent to a 16ah “flexvolt” battery.
Dewalt top-of-line saw WAS used, just not the largest battery. The Dewalt DID NOT bog down - I'm not sure which video you watched. That simply dod not happen!
These videos make dewalt look bad haha. It will probably last the longest on the jobsite without breaking which is something that can't be tested here, so that's a consideration.
We've given up on DeWalt for most of our tool applications Too many burned up motors and battery longevity is the worst compared to MHPT, Milwaukee and Makita DeWalt has lost their quality control and slow on it innovation for awhile now
These saws ALL of these saws and the 18-24 volt saws were tested at the same time - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee, Flex or any other saw - it was the same day, same tests, same blades, same users, nothing is different.
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ALL of thes saws, and the 18-24 volt saws were tested at the same time - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee, Flex or any other saw - it was the same day, same tests, same blades, same users, and nothing is different.
Great information, you should pin this comment to the top so people see it first.
I love how you answered my question before i asked.
We swapped all.of our red, yellow and teal recips for the Metabo HPT 36V monster
We got 3 saws for the price of one of the others, plus a free 4/0/8.0 battery for each
Noo contest for us
Plus lifetime warranty and we do use the AC adapter for this tools for long run times , especially metal in the shop
Have the 40v Makita and it's a beast with all the bells and whistles I might ever need for a recip saw. Adjustable-removable shoe, orbital cutting, speed dial, rafter hook, spring loaded blade ejection, avt works incredible, tons of power. I have no complaints.
Very nice!
Awesome tests sir. I bought the Metabo sawzall on Maxtool on father's day with a rear handle and 8.0 battery for $200 straight up no tax or shipping. Maybe the best deal ever. The rear handle is soso but the sawzall is a standout among the many others I own.
That Metabo HPT kicks the crap out of all our other sawzalls, even corded ones. We have been through all the brands except Flex, and we settled on Milwaukee and Metabo HPT (hitachi). We use them professionally everyday.
Great video, I personally love my Hikoki 36v recip, can’t fault it!
I picked up the makita 40v. I run the makita 40v & 18v big tools. And I run the m12 line for compacts. Honestly I think this is the best combination. 1 thing about makita is they are some of the smoothest impacts & saws.
I have the metabo hpt and it is the best
Thanks for the comparison, Rob! I've started a new business and I'm getting into a new tool platform, so I'm scrubbing through several of your videos. I'm on a fairly tight budget, so I'm seriously considering Metabo HPT. SIDE NOTE: You have a lot of patience dealing with all of the prima donna's in the comment sections. Always thankful for your professionalism.
Thanks for saying that, and for commenting! Welcome to business ownership. If you get some time check out my Contractor Business Tip Series.
@@ConcordCarpenter I'll check it out for sure!
I've been running Milwaukee and Makita for yrs after giving up on DeWalt before that due to poor quality cantrol, burned up motors and below average service
We've switch a bunch of our tools over to Metabo HPT over the last 3-4yrs and have been very pleased with power, workmanship, features, elearranty and the AC adapter for the 36V tools that we use for the table saw, mitre saw, grinder, SDS Max rotary hammer, vacuum and a few others-it saves battery life and longevity and allows for all day use when AC power is available
Check Acme and Toolbarn as well as Lowes
The 36V line are true pro grade tools and many of the 18V are pro grade as well
The mHPT/Hitachi nailers have and continue to be the industry standard
@@JimDoubleYa yes I was hoping to get the Barrell grip 36V that was being sold her through ACME but for some reason stopped being available
I waited for the Makita to go in sale but never did so ended up with the Milwaukee 18V Fuel barrel grip(it's a monster but cuts great)
As far as Metabo HPT woodworking tools
The 36V 1/2" Full size router is my absolute favorite tool in the shop and jobsite, the 23 gauge pin, 18guage are good, the rear handle framing saw, 36V sidewinder and 6 1/2 18V all are light and powerful
The 36V recipe is the most powerful recip we run
Triple hammer impact and 36V Hammer drill have been great and at great prices I er the last few yrs
The vacuum is great as it runs off 36V batteries and the AC adapter
The 36V table saw has been another favorite on jobsite as it is portable but has the largest workspace/capacity and again can be plugged in with the adapter for thicker ripping and all day run time without waiting for batteries to charge like the other portable cordless out there
The new 18V sander is as good as the Milwaukee and the trim router is also comparable to the Milwaukee but each is at a better price
The best cordless portable planer is the Ridgid Octane if u can find it otherwise the older Makita or the newer brushless(but you'll pay twice as much, the Metabo HPT planer is solid but not too performer(Milwaukee and DeWalt planers are junk)
Hope this.helps
Been in the trades for a long time
I have many different colors in the shop but mostly running green, red and teal for cordless now with a little orange for some applications
@@JimDoubleYa ACME has best selection and they run promotions each week for different tools so ya gotta check a few times a week
Toolbarn has had some sick deals this year as well and Lowes is currently running the 4.0/8.0 Multivolt battery and get a free rear handle, 7 1/4 sidewinder or 36V recip
Acme just finished a second round of $50 if u spend $200 which I'm sure they'll run again,
Nice, I see you got the stronger 40v makita saw, awesome, will watch soon!
Just picked up the Metabo today for $130 at Lowe’s with battery kit!
7:38 that Makita 40V has orbital, so should be tied 1st with Hikoki
Thanks for correcting us on that - good news is.... Makita 40V still wins
Nice work!
Not sure how I missed this when it was released.
The results are similar to what I found.
Thank you for yet another impressive and informative tool comparison! I only have experience with a Dewalt flexvolt saw that we bought for professional use about 4 years ago. We do ground work, which include cutting plastic pipes for septic systems and drainage pipes, removal of misplaced limbs of trees, dividing some lumber, and occasionally some demolition work. Perhaps also cutting a few steel profiles. Not that hard work, and very little use during winter months of December to March. But, it can be a harsh environment with rain, dirt, sand and stone flour. Apparently, too harsh for the flexvolt saw, and the first battery burned after 11 months (7-8 months of use). The second battery started smoking after 13 months. We could not get new batteries from either the reseller or Dewalt directly. In truth we could not even get any real answers on this issue. So, we shelved the Dewalt saw and bought a few Bosch GSA 18 V-LI C saws instead. They work great for our purposes and only cost about 1/3 or less to replace compared to the Flexvolt saw (the first lasted about 2 and a half years). I would not recommend using the flexvolt saw in harsh environments. I guess that the batteries (probably the same for many manufacturers) are not sealed from water, to allow better air cooling, but it makes the more complex circuitry of the flexvolt batteries vulnerable to moisture.
Rob @ 7:40 when you show the chart for features you didn’t give the Makita 40V a point for Orbital action. It does have that feature on the AVT model you tested.
Yes we missed that, good news is it did t affect its overall rank
You guys make great videos, thank you. Would have been interesting to see the orbital functions ranked. I have the Makita 40v with orbital and it's beast!
These are all great tools & honestly you really can't go wrong with any. It all depends on personal preference. Sure one might cut a hair faster or one might be a fuzz lighter. I really like the Makita 36V tools mainly because you get the 36V power but staying with the 18V batteries.
These tests are very interesting on their own, but I think most of us choose a brand for battery operated tools and stick with it. How about doing a comparison of all the core, essential tools together and compare brands? Maybe a reciprocating saw, circular saw, drill, driver, finish nailer, framing nailer, whatever you think. Just taken as a group, which brand performs best and is well made? Because it won't kill me if I take two extra seconds to make a cut, but it will be very annoying if I run out of power before the job is done and can't simply take a new battery from another tool. That's the beauty of sticking with a brand, even if certain of their tools aren't top performers.
I started out doing small jobs and I had the same mentality on having everything the same brand. Now I have Dewalt on my truck for small jobs but for bigger jobs multiple batteries don't bother me. I get the best tools for the best price regardless of brand. Some of the deals for makita and Metabo were too good to pass up.
We don't disagree.
Idk about that.
I'm on Makita 18V and 40V primarily, 80% of my tools are Makita, but also have Ryobi 18v for home gamer stuff and tools I don't use frequently, and then Bosch 12v and Milwaukee 12v, and then DeWalt 20v to round everything out.
I like the flexibility of being able to grab tools everywhere.
I buy what ever I thinks best preferably in a kit form all brand off good options for different tools I like to have options in my tools and wemon but that's a different story.🤔
I say the real masters have a some of EVERY battery platform not sacrificing quality in any tool purchased
That Metabo HPT wood cut test makes me scratch my head. 🤔 Mine is a beast through wood with nails. 🤷🏻♂️
that saw loves to get pressured i bet if they put some more on it it would crush the 40v
@@abeltavaresperez7948 except the Makita 40v can also handle more pressure just fine, so.... still lose in the end.
@@abeltavaresperez7948 I was thinking the same thing. More pressure would change the game.
Yeah that's our experience as well and it's not even very close
Not sure what happened there
Great video thanks for doing this for us. My favorite the Makita
@Makita !!!
Since people kept asking for the Milwaukee Fuel to be included, here are the M18 2822-20 results from the test 2 weeks ago compared to these. It should be pretty close since its the same test, 10lb weight and blades used.
Pipe - M18 5.63 - HPT 36V 5.73 - Makita 40v 3.55 - Makita 36v 11.0
Unistrut - M18 4.72 - HPT 36V 3.01 - Makita 40v 2.70 - Makita 36v 3.54
Nail embedded wood - M18 32.14 - HPT 36V 53.50 - Makita 40v 30.61 - Makita 36v 40.15
I own the 36v Makita and what i did was have a friend who just needed more batteries and i needed the saw. We bought the kit and split the parts. We both saved money and the saw came out at $145 in July 2020.
Pepe your hired!! We tested ALL of the saws from 18v to 60v all on the same day. We separated the videos to give the heavy hitters their own arena.
nice work! the results are exactly as I suspected and other reviewers have ranked.
It is quite astonishing that dewalt for having the flexvolt platform, haven't built a great recip saw on it.
I love dewalt except for recip saws by them. Just been taking away features (no rafter hook, no 4 way blade clamp, no adjustable shoe) over the years with every new model and not even being the best performing. Ive also had issues even with the blade clamp and the blade ripping out of the saw mid cut in multiple models including this flexvolt one. So frustrating. Always in cutting metal never wood but 99% of my cutting is metal. I even bought myself a flex 24v recip saw not too long ago even tho i am super invested in all dewalt 20v and flexvolt. All other flexvolt tools are fantastic tho and i love the platform. Grinder is a monster.
I love your head to head videos. They are so well thought out and well executed. There is nothing I have found so thorough on RUclips. And the results are being compiled by experienced contractors. Because of all this the resulting winners are definitely worth taking a look at. Unfortunately living in Australia we can't get a lot of the models you test. And we can only dream of the prices you mention. But I have definitely bought tools based on your tests. My three main considerations are. Robust and capable worker. Price. Because I am always broke. And ergonomics. So many tools I only have to pick them up and hold them to know I don't like them. Too heavy. Poor balance. Awkward switches etc. Modern safety switches often designed for a gorilla. With small hands and short thumbs some aren't even usable. You cover a lot of these details in your videos. Great work.
Thank you, Dave
At 7:45 you did not mention that the Makita 40v has an orbital function. Doesn't really change the score, but just a note. Also would have been interesting to see how the standard 40v saw would perform, although it would look like a Makita sponsored video.
Hey Rob thanks again for another great head to head. This why I subscribed to this channel. Tell the team for me I say thanks very much
Makita XGT is absolutely wrecking stuff recently.
Their 3/4" impact wrench is head and shoulders above anything else.
They have every saw size you could want, and tons of different ridiculously powerful grinders.
Possibly one of the best drill/drivers with their electronic chuck, etc...
Probably the most powerful cordless vacuums.
Only thing that is somewhat lacking is their 40v impact drivers. Haven't really updated those aside from making them compatible with 40v.
Good work!
I am looking forward to seeing your Compact (one handed) reciprocating saw Head to Head testing of the latest models!
Also, it would be interesting to see the spread in time results from just the top finishers of the three size categories on a couple of timed cut tests.
I love these head to heads. The recip tests are more straightforward so testing complaints should be fewer than some of your other tests that have more testing compromises due to the nature of the tools
Haha we’ll see. Thanks for commenting
Excellent head-to-head test! Thanks for doing this!
How the hell is the Makita 36V significantly slower than the Makita 18V on the 3x 2x10” wood with 15x 16p nails embedded that you tested in your other video? 40.15 seconds for the 36V seconds vs 28.69 seconds for the 18V. I have my doubts about those figures.
another awesome test, thank you a lot! I thought 40v makita gen2 would win but you confirmed it to me :) 40v is a really awesome an underrated tool line
Thanks
Привет Роб!Купил макиту 40в,эта пила просто пушка,мощность фундаментальная,полностью согласен,что эта сабельная пила самая лучшая и производительная в мире,она номер 1!!!
Another excellent test.
I think that you may try to use weighted arithmetic mean when calculating the overall score. It's because some features or performance are more important that the others. So like cutting time performance would have weight of 7 assigned, while mass of the tool would have weight of 3 assigned.
Agreed, when a tool is a 10%-15% heavier but cuts 25% to 50% faster, or even double the damn speed with the metal pipe test, then is the ergonomics score actually lower in real life use if you're sustaining less grip strength and vibration over time? Let alone the fact the XGT already has lower vibration to begin with.
Edit: Still love these videos though, as Rob mentions, we can decipher the numbers and narrow down the tool that is perfect for our use case,
It would have been interesting to see the Milwaukee super-sawzall in there. I'm surprised they didnt join in. Otherwise the Makita 40v Max line looks really legit. I've tried some of their tools and they are very impressive. I'm a Dewalt-guy, but would absolutely consider Makita 40v if it were not for my co-workers using mostly Dewalt. I do however own Metabo hpt nailers, since I dislike Dewalt. I also have to say that some of the Metabo HPT tools are really up there! Would love Toolboxbuzz to explore more of the Makita 40v and Metabo hpt-worlds
check the the channel, they have the other videos with the 18v -24v saws
Milwaukee super Sawzall is on their other video.
Makita is still better when you compare times between that video and this video though.
@concordcarpenter - from years of watching your Head-to-head tests, you are clearly University-educated. You should do a video (as so many less educated Tool RUclipsrs have already done) about your thoughts regarding 'Trade-school vs. University', highlighting (of course) your own experiences.
P.S. Congrats on the 1/4M subscribers mark!
I did 6 years back
I really appreciate your testing, it brings both personal preference, which can be subjective but it's similar to polling people, eventually there is a basic consensus even if the differences are negligible. And much more empirical testing which can show very minor but important or even unimportant differences. Slow mo can mess with people's observations and make minor differences look huge, similar to sports replays. For most people, well, at least me because I doubt I'm special in this regard, is performance is secondary to comfort and reliability until poor performance becomes a liability.
I have the 18v Makita brushless recip and was surprised the 36v doesn't have an adjustable guard.
One test I would like to see is 18 gauge staplers, or any staplers. They are commonly used but everyone seems to ignore them.
Love makita for smooth powerful cutting. Haven't tried the blades.
🤟🤟 have the dewalt like all power tools both 18v and 54v. Hook is joke why they don’t have 1. Bricklayer so just use it for demo stuff very good saw. Blade they bend very quickly so not keen spending silly for 1. Blade did get hilti blades to try few bucks dearer but seeming very good. Rob would you favour the diablo over the millwaukie blades ?
The makita xgt you tested has orbital action. That's what the lever on the body is for
The Metabo 36V UVP is the only way to go. It’s the most comfortable to use over long periods of time. Has the best real world vibration control. You get an outstanding ecosystem. The fact you can use you’re 36V battery on your 18V tool Metabo tools. Which you will want to do as you will get more power in the 18V tools using the bigger battery packs due to much less voltage sag. And if you for some reason are burning through a battery faster then every 45 minutes. You don’t really need it but you can plug in, just in case you do. And you get a lifetime warranty with all Metabo tools. You just can’t beat that.
Still think the testing should remain fact based as much as possible. Also I feel that there should be some sort of way to blind test the tools. As brandboys will always lean twords the ecosystem they currently use. But that’s just how it’ll be. Once you buy so many of a certain battery and own so many of a certain brand. There is no way to escape. This is why I buy based on spec, function and ease of use. So far I’ve been very happy with every Metabo tool I own. For the price, the functionality and with Metabo having the beta ecosystem when it comes to running your 18v on your 36v battery’s and a lifetime warranty. Nothing is topping that right now. I would like to see some competition though, as it would only force Metabo have to make their tools even better. Along with all the other top dogs in the game.
I own a lot of different brands but right now we can all admit, Metabo is killing it in every way all while keeping their price just as good or better then the competitors.
I know the Milwaukee Super Sawzall isn’t in this voltage range, but I think it still belongs in this comparison. It’s competing directly with these saws. When I didn’t see it in the last head to head, I thought it would be in this one. Great video though!
They probably didnt want to be in the test or didnt send a testing sample in time.
You can certainly compare it - ALL of the saws were tested on the same day - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee - same day, same tests, nothing different.
Oh my bad Rob! I watched the last head to head too, but I missed that the Super Sawzall was in there. I knew there were 2 Milwaukee saws, but neither of them looked like the super sawzall. But I looked up that model number, and it was, so yes, you already compared them. Sorry, I wouldn’t have commented that if I realized it was in the last head to head.
metabo hpt spanks the super sawzall
@@ConcordCarpenter but it only had a 5ah or so battery right? Isn't part of Milwaukee's strategy to have higher amp hour batteries to give it more watt hours to compete with higher voltage tools? Am I getting something wrong?
Thanks Rob 😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
Hi Ted!
So correct me if im wrong but isnt the 6ah flexvolt just a 2ah 60v. From what i read its 6ah 20v and only 2ah 60v.🤷🏽♂️
I’m amazed at the results. I have the dewalt flexvolt and the makita 40v . I prefer the dewalt. I feel like speed of cut and brute force are more important when it comes to recip saws and I feel like the dewalt is an animal. The makita seems like it lags behind. However I do like the rafter hook on the makita and do wish dewalt had one.
I really like the review and side by side comparison. I will have to grab the makita next time to see if there is a difference.
Thanks for the review Rob. Outstanding as usual.
I don’t understand what Dewalt has against adjustable shoes on their recip saws. Even their higher end and newer saws don’t have it. Their old 20v max with the 4 way blade clamp is the only one I’m aware of that has one. And even then it’s kinda sloppy. The Dewalt saws definitely need an update.
The power adapter for the Metabo is pretty neat, but they should have the electronic brick in the center of chord. I’d rather see a “wall wart” style plug.
Yep, they even got rid of the multi position collet on the latest one. They have trash recips
I've been looking for a new Reciprocating Saw for a while now. I'm glad I saw this video, as have no real brand loyalty. The Makita 40volt was impressive enough to make me consider adding another battery set. Wonder if Makita is planning on stepping up to 40v for their higher performance line of tools.
XGT IS their high-performance/pro/contractor battery line.
They said it themselves.
I'm sure the niche stuff will have XGT variants soon.
I really like the Metabo HPT recip, hard to believe the Makita is faster! The XGT tools I have all are top notch, I'll keep an eye out for a deal on one of these.
Strange… the adjustable shoe hasn’t made it on to the Makita 36v in the States. As they do have adjustable shoes on them here down under.
Just picked up the Flexvolt 60 for 269 dollars with the 9amp battery charger and carry bag
It’s a smart idea to separate higher volt tools, I think that’s a good way to categorize these tests. There is an inherent difference between 18 volts and 36 volts
I feel like the HILTI didn’t get a fair test in the last video as the SR 622 is meant to be run on a larger battery
Does the makita 40v line up better then milwaukee ?? I talk about cir saw , chainsaw, table saw, recipsaw , multitool ,grinder.. woodworking tool actually just wonder
You can go look a the 18v H2H and compare it - ALL of the saws were tested on the same day - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee - same day, same tests, nothing different.
I have been trying to find videos putting the Dewalt 60v saw to a suitable test. Seems that their is a thinking that this is supposed to be a flagship general purpose saw, and it winds up being criticized for lack of general purpose features. I think the lack of speed controls and orbiting are because the saw is intended for a specialized purpose, which is heavy, slow cutting through thick, dense materials. That is why it doesn't perform well when put in competiagainst untreated soft wood. Would you guys consider doing a hard material test? Thanks.
@@steveg7000 good point, thx for sharing
The thing i found fascinating is that the makita 40v was almost 2x as fast cutting in metal but 3 saws finished faster than it in the nail embedded wood test. Why do you think the bigger saws were slower in nail embedded wood?
not sure
What? The makita won every test including the tests with the wood in it from what I seen🤔
Why didn’t you use the Flex saw on theses test?
The didn’t send it when asked
The makita 40v has orbital but no point on the score that section is a little weird
Thamnks for correcting us on that - good news is.... Makita 340V still wins
Thanks for pointing that out. The good news is... Makita 40v still wins regardless
We need a Makita xgt vs Flex vs Milwaukee super sawzall showdown.
Where's Bosch???
Man two videos in under two weeks? That's absurd.
you complaining?
What do you have against Flex?
We covered FLEX in the 18-24 volt HEad-2-HEad. Did you see it? Flex won
Sorry no I didn't see it just wondered how it might rank against the heavy duty saws
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I would go with makita 40v if i wasn't vested in milwaukee m18 fuel line.
makita 40v has orbital action...
Omg Milwaukee isn't on the list?
This test was for 36-60V saws only
Didnt he test the M18 a video before? Why not just compare the times since they did the exact same test.
@@Pepe-dq2ib You can - ALL of the saws were tested on the same day - we separated the high capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee - same day, same tests, nothing different.
Makita xgt 40v gen 2 recip saw with orbital mode way faster than 40v xgt gen 1
No milwaukee cuz it's a Sawzall and we alrdy know it's the best
They already tested it, and no it was worse than the Makita. Go look at their other video.
Flex sawzall is better than the milwaukee super sawzall.😂
Why would you weigh the tool without the battery you can't use the saw without a battery
Because there are different configurations- you pick the battery size you want, and add it in
@@ConcordCarpenter Yeah but the test heavy-duty so you should have went with the heaviest configuration I know dewalt has that monstrous 15amp battery I don't will use that on a recip saw bur the 12 and 9amp I could see
@@loucifer4205 So, why are you trying to argue this then? Are you concerned about battery casings being designed to add as little weight as possible?
@@orijimi No you can't use a tool without the battery so what was the purpose of comparing the weight of the tools without a battery
Get on that XGT lineup, every tool has been pretty damn good so far! The batteries last a long time as well, and no real need to match a certain battery to a certain tool even the 2.5ah runs the rear handle saw and recip saw just fine.
Diablo blades are better.
They better be, that’s ALL they do!
@@ConcordCarpenter LOL good video Merry Christmas 🎅
So 1) Flex 2) Makita XGT 3) Metabo HPT and last place Milwaukee
nah, makita 40v gen2 is solid 1st
Just gonna guess that 54v wins. Wow, doesn't look like it. Jeez, DeWalt, you had everything in your favor.
You do realize voltage doesn't mean more powerful the other saws have 11/4 stroke dewalt has 11/8 stroke
@@loucifer4205 In general, it has the most ample supply of wattage, they could have done anything with it.
54 volts has no effect on the user experience, zero. Weight, vibration, and ease of use are the things that matter over the life of a tool
@@CraigularjJoeWoodworks It should have had effect on the cutting speed by way of supporting a stronger motor. It effectively didn't.
DeWalt fell asleep on FLEXVOLT with SBD acquisitions and trying too hard to roll out many versions of the same tools. I don't know how a pro tool company can roll out a beefy looking recip to come in so dead last, INCLUDING, against lower voltage units.
We both know being in similar fields that’s not how sawzalls are used … First the dewalt 60v top of the line wasn’t used and a 12ah wasn’t used . If you combine those two it blows away the competition and never bogs down under extreme hard use , which is exactly what you do with these sawzalls
These tests don’t show real world use . The other two big down under heavy load same as a Milwaukee will or cut out from thermal protection and dewalt does not .
The top of the line tool with the highest battery from each company should be used , it’s not desalts fault other companies dont produce the same batteries as they do and they shouldn’t be penalized for it.
Dewalt tools are designed to be used with the highest ah battery and used harshly under extreme loads where other companies can’t , that’s the difference!!!
Makita xgt would still win if the biggest available batteries were used. Makita has a 8.0 ah 40v battery which would be equivalent to a 16ah “flexvolt” battery.
Dewalt top-of-line saw WAS used, just not the largest battery. The Dewalt DID NOT bog down - I'm not sure which video you watched. That simply dod not happen!
you are wrong on all accounts. and no, it doesn't make sense to use a huge battery in a handheld tool
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These videos make dewalt look bad haha. It will probably last the longest on the jobsite without breaking which is something that can't be tested here, so that's a consideration.
That might be solid, but the performance test and lack of features don’t lie
We've given up on DeWalt for most of our tool applications
Too many burned up motors and battery longevity is the worst compared to MHPT, Milwaukee and Makita
DeWalt has lost their quality control and slow on it innovation for awhile now
Milwaukee Fuel Sawzall is just as good, if not better than these. Milwaukee invented this... it belongs in this test.
Open the website when he tested the M18 and compare its test time and score with the 36-60v. Done.
@@Pepe-dq2ib yup
These saws ALL of these saws and the 18-24 volt saws were tested at the same time - we separated the high-capacity saws into their own video. You CAN compare the Milwaukee, Flex or any other saw - it was the same day, same tests, same blades, same users, nothing is different.