"Not going well" is the best statement to define what's going on right now. So much entitlement without perspective... without recognizing that their opinion isn't the only one that matters. From comics to entertainment to politics we have lost our empathy and understanding. Hope we can find our way.
“The price that YOU paid has NOTHING to do with what THEY are currently valued at”. EXACTLY! I appreciate you being a great comic book community member and that is why…I “Buy from Bry”. Keep grinding bro!✌️
This guy is exactly what is wrong with the comic book community. People do not use logic or reason and want the world to cater to them. Steve was one of these fools. God bless your attempt, Bry!
I had Steve's mentality when I was in early high school. Since then I grew up and learned that businesses don't work that way. I appreciate the fact that you tried to explain. As a person that likes to learn it would have been a beneficial to listen and learn vs assume all knowing status.
LOL the dissonance is real with "Steve". This is a prime example of someone who can't accept that the books he bought months ago are worth a lot less today, and he's mad as hell about it. A true dilettante. I also love how he can't comprehend the simple fact that GPA data also includes eBay sales, among other sites. You handled this well, Bry. The only thing I didn't see (I am working as I watch this video to be fair so I may have missed it) is did you inform him on the massive chasm in value for newsstand vs direct? For him to compare the two versions of the book tells me that he is likely a noob, or a thief who is trying to rob a pro. Not that it's your job to show everyone where they went wrong, but if we maaaaaaaybe want to give Steve some benefit of the doubt that he isn't totally clueless, this may have helped.
You handled it very politely Bry..love your vids…always transparent and honest You were very nice to do all the back and forth..with some people that can’t acknowledge current market prices I end the debate early, thank them for their time and move on Your time is more valuable
You handled it professionally Bry! Business is business-if the seller viewed it from a business perspective he would’ve used your offer as a baseline and try to sell the books himself if he wanted to get more verses getting upset
You handled this very well my man. Steve seems like he is in denial about his loss and it brought the true ahole out of him. He should have stopped once he started judging. You can give me your two cents of what you believe to be facts and we can discuss like adults, but once you make it personal it's over.
Bry, I love your content. This is just like dating. It's just not going to "work out" with everyone, as much as you'd wanted it to be. I wouldn't get in the rabbit hole moving forward with a person's negativity. Keep doing you!
Collectibles are only worth what someone else is willing to pay, you handled this great, it seems Steve hasn't been doing this long and needs to understand the rarity of newsstands in the late modern age !
Poor Steve was blinded by the high value of his comics when he first bought them, never realizing that values can drop and his comics are not worth the same anymore.
You are correct to call out the “Steve’s”, Karen’s and Ken’s of this community. The consequence, and he should have a one, is correct and just. We need to police ourselves. You tried to teach him and now he wears the cone of shame! You bruised his ego when you pointed out his mistake and then he spiralled. Yo did the right thing 🖖🏾
NTA. Steve is a piece of work that clearly doesn't know how business works. You are 100% correct about how how the internet has given many people "keyboard courage". Like the rapper The Game said, don't let Mark Zuckerberg get you knocked out.
Interesting interaction. As a counselor, I deal a lot with people and various perspectives on life. I don't want to be long winded but since feedback was requested...First, I don't think that this person is "What's wrong" with the comic book community, per se. One reality I work in is that all actions make sense in context. I can understand this person's frustration if they don't understand Bry's context. In THAT case, their frustration is understandable. They haven't looked at it from Bry's position or have an understanding of what it takes to run a business. I do think it is correct that in an era of the anonymous internet, i.e. not having to be face to face with someone, people are more prone to overreact and not take the time to see it from another perspective. Bry, a few comments to you. First, I think that you do an amazing job of responding to people. I can't imagine that you actually have the time, but I know that every time I've sent you an email you or Marcus have responded. That's pretty amazing. But I've been on the other end so I have the context of how amazing that is. That being said, a couple things for you to consider. 1) most people aren't going to understand your time limitations. That means, when you send a short response in an email, they will likely read into it whatever mood they happen to be in at the time. 2) validation goes a long way. Validating someone's feelings (not telling them they are correct) can go a long way to helping someone feel seen. For example, "I can see how this might appear and I can understand that it would feel very frustrating. And, I hope you can try to see it from my stand point which is..." This can help alleviate some of that frustration. 3) Since you don't REALLY have the time to respond to every email, probably best to stop responding once you feel the interaction is going sideways. Or, type our a detailed 'canned' explanation of why you have to offer what you offer, how you come to the prices (including the validation piece) that you can add onto emails. This might help. Anyway, I appreciate all that you've helped me with as I've started to make this hobby pay for itself! Keep it up! Cheers.
Bry, you were correct at approximately the 9:03 mark. You could have said "thanks for contacting me but I'll pass and I wish you good luck." The End. It makes no sense to beat a dead horse, especially if he's gonna talk smack. Relationships are an overblown concept. This is business, not friends, IMO.
Two things to be recognized. #1 there will always be unreasonable people. #2 fostering good relationships is key for almost anything especially in business.
Hi Bry, I viewed the exchange with your request for objective feedback in mind. He was definitely in the wrong. If he thinks he can get more on EBay, he should just sell them himself. As I posted on another video just a few days ago (which is common knowledge to those who understand the business, even if not a seller), what you paid for a book is completely irrelevant to what a book's fair market value is. Add to that his faulty comparisons...and yikes, not only was he wrong, he was rather graceless in refusing to accept the reality that when the time comes, he, like many/most folks, are going to come up short on what they paid for a comic, unless they bought it a loooong time ago. However, part of me can understand his emotion/frustration coming through, cloaked as faulty logic. Most comic hobbyists looking to recoup some $ someday need to remember that at least they're getting back something for the time they owned and enjoyed the comics...anything is better than nothing, which you can't say for a lot of hobbies. I've already faced the reality that I am going to get "destroyed" on any comics I purchased at or close to FMV, unless they were books I purchased new back in the early 1980's and submitted to CGC myself (such as two copies of ASM #238, one is 9.8, ASM #252 9.8, many X-Men in the 115-143 range at 9.6-9.8, etc.). And you're probably who I'll turn to when the day comes that I sell. I won't have time to sell them myself. Cost of convenience. My alternative is my head-in-sand LCS -- they barely comprehend graded comics, and they're at 10-25 cents for almost all raw comics.
To me you did everything the right way Bry. That guy didn't know anything about what he was talking about. People do your homework on what your selling.
I would say that "Steve" is confused and you get a C+ for your side. You literally explained things in this video that you should have explained to Steve. Why didn't you explain to him that that Ebay sale was for the newsstand? Why didn't you explain to him about the flaws in Ebay pricing? Why didn't you explain about the convenience fee? Steve lacks social skills to be sure, and was rocking that Dunning-Kreuger effect, but he'll never learn unless someone explains things to him.
You are far too kind Bry. Even though I agree with you about building good customer relations, I have very little tolerance for disrespectful people (customer or not). If a customer says they can sell it for a higher price, I would have no problem encouraging them to do so.
LOOK... THE WORLD IS FULL OF SELF RIGHTEOUS PRICKS... AND STEVE IS AT THE TOP OF HIS GAME...HE WAS JUST LOOKING TO PUSH YOUR BUTTONS AND YOU HANDLED IT PERFECTLY.. AAA+++
Let’s start by saying you were 100% in the right. In the past you and I have discussed a collection of books that I was looking to do in trade with you and while it didn’t work for you, you still offered to buy the books at 60% FMV. You are very clear in your videos, and you were very clear with me. I cannot believe that anyone coming to you would not understand this. You are one of the best at clearly communicating what you will and will not do. Steve just does not get it.
I’ve collected comics for 45 years , owned 2 shops in the 80s and 90s. I’ve ran into many people like ‘ Steve’. They don’t really understand the market, grading and evaluating, or the business side of the hobby. 99% of dealers will explain what they buy sell and trade at and the reason why. A dealer has overhead and needs to make a living. That affects the price they buy and sell at. Bry is a honest person with a good hart. He also buys at a higher price than most dealers. Steve should price the books he wants to sell among other dealers and platforms and compare them. Not be a jerk to someone who is taking the time out of his busy schedule to educate and be kind. I’m just a collector now and glad I don’t have to deal with the ‘Steve’ collectors anymore.
What’s up Bry, Marcus and the creeper in the background! 😂 Bry, as usual you handled it like a pro. Steve on the other hand is a little bit delusional. Actually, he’s a lot a bit delusional.
been dealing with this long before cgc ever existed people think because its old its expensive or they dont understand what conditions mean. My favorite is when they get upset because you aren't interested in what they are selling. Dealers got to make money or why would he do it.😊😊😊
I think you handled it as well as anyone could have. Until someone makes the effort to actually sell comic books through any kind of platform, it's difficult to appreciate the time and effort that's required. There are times I've sold some comic books to dealers and was fine with getting less than 40% market value (non-graded books), because I understand that it takes time and effort to move these books and I'd rather have the funds up front than go through trouble of selling the books via a different platform.
Good data. It happens. Both of you had different options. You handled it with multiple facts and he got upset. Keep it professional and just ended. It was go south fast. Thank you for your content. Happy thanksgiving.
Unreasonable people tend to only accept what they WANT to hear in a given situation. I'd say you handled it well. I may have told him to price it out with other dealers and venues and then go with the one he feels the best about.
My only advice is that I would have explained to him that he was looking at the selling price for the Newsstand Edition, which is more rare and is not the same version of the book he is trying to sell. I didn't see you mention that in the emails you sent to him. I'm not sure how he would have taken that, but I think it would have been helpful. Having said that, he probably would have blown it off and acted like Newsstand Editions aren't that big of a deal, even though any comic collector knows it can be a huge deal. He doesn't seem reasonable enough to accept that fact. He seems to be in the same rut a lot of collectors fall into across all collecting mediums in being convinced that he has things that are worth more than they really are. He also doesn't seem to understand that comics, more than anything else people collect, go up and down in value quite often, and it can happen as quickly as a day. Realistically, he should hang onto these books until their value rises. That 1st appearance of Damian will definitely go up at some point in the future.
Did you tell him that his comp was a newsstand (I didn’t see that in the emails)? That was the only thing I could see that maybe would have made a difference. But I don’t think that interaction was ever going to go well.
Great video Bry! Love the new store exclusive. ❤ If only we could just be more like Steve: entitled, misinformed, arrogant, judgmental and selfish, perhaps then we could sell our comic books and become New York real estate tycoons!😂
You handle it perfectly Bry! There are stupid people in the world that can't be help. People nowadays are lacking real world experience and not living in reality.
I think I would have actually mentioned what you said: "It doesn't matter what you paid for them, this is what their current value is." You could also point out the opposite point of view: someone selling an ASM 300 for example. "Hey man, you bought that when it came out and it was $1.00 so factoring in the cost of slabbing the book at $35 I can only offer you $36." It really is the same argument but the opposite side of the coin. I think that other thing folks forget is that you have a business to run. You aren't buying these for your own PC. You are buying and then selling - like any other retailer - to make a profit. I don't know how many times I've heard the comment: "But that's not what it's worth." No it isn't. If you want to sell it for what it's worth then start your own business. (That's what I have done). And finally, social media is more antisocial than it is social. It's like releasing Godzilla from captivity to fight for you - seemed like a good idea at the time but now that he's out... you can't really control him anymore. You should have called him Richard. Then closed your segment with: "... don't be like Richard. Don't be a Dick." Comedy gold.
“I paid $400 for those 4 books.” That was your first mistake. If you’re trying to resell don’t buy/get anything graded unless you know exactly what you can get out of it
I bought and sold some key issues back in the 90's and the shop owner told me right uprint, I pay 50% of what Overstreets value is at the moment, this is wayyy pre-internet/ eBay. ( does anybody even use Overstreet anymore? ) So it was a wake up call for me then. And yeah things have changed but the market will bear what it will bear aka capitalism. My .02 worth ? I'd have just said, welp, good luck ! And just been done w/ the dialogue with him.
He had an idea of what it was worth coming in and u fortunately the value is dropping on everything. I'm almost embarrassed to list some of the deals I've gotten recently on eBay. He's trying to sell at wrong time.
You handled that very well, Bry. You might have cooled him with an explanation of why you chose your value method and pointed out the inconsistencies of using eBay sold listings. Maybe. But nobody needs to be responsible for educating every person who comes through the door, makes a phone call, or sends an email. And folks like him tend to dig in to their points of view more deeply when confronted with information that either challenges or (gasp!) contradicts their established thinking. It's understandable because it's human nature to be defensive, but far too many folks have the reasonable willingness to move beyond that which is one of the reasons we're becoming angrier and more stupid as a collective. Couple that with the lack of consequences the ethereal filter of protection that cyberspace gives us with that disposition and you have the atomic bomb-drop of free-wheeling numbskulls casting their stupid like raindrops citizenry we currently enjoy. Good times. Good times.
Lol, edit to add that literally right after I pressed send on the message below, Bry said the EXACT thing. Bottom line I think is that this guy doesn’t understand how the reseller market works. He keeps say8ng he can make more money selling it himself on eBay. Well, of course he can. If he sells it to a reseller in one lump, he gets a lower price because he is “PAYING THE RESELLER” to do all the work (list, market, price, pack, ship, etc...). Honestly, I think this is the bottom line problem here.
I definitely LMAO that you chose "Steve" as the pseudonym. Poor MinorKeys. 🤣 In any case...you are not the @$$hole in this situation, for all the reasons you mentioned.
Unfortunately Steve like many others in this space bought their comics in 2020-2021 which wasn't real life unless you were also SELLING them in 2020-21 lol We will all agree steve is just upset he overpaid and doesn't collect so it hurts his heart he has to look at them sitting there at a loss. If he was a collector he would accept the L sell them and buy something he likes or just hang onto them because he likes the look of the books etc... btw the exclusive you showed is an AMAZING cover, it had a magneto close up look, but a miles.... love it
He sounds like he either needed some “learning,” that he has a knowledge gap from being a bit new. Consider breaking down some basic info if this type of interaction comes up again. Chuck it up to ignorance rather than malice. However, to be honest, i think there’s a strong chance he’s actually a scammer. After running into a few lately they tend to use arguments like this. They rely on flawed comparisons and aggressive shaming language. Either way brotha, keep your head up, I love your shop and your videos. You’re hands down one of the best in our little hobby. Hope you had a great thanksgiving!
You handled Yourself properly. Brother. You tried Your Best. Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures from Toronto Ontario Canada 😎 👍 ♥️ 📚 📚📚📚📚✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️💯💯💯💯💯💯✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️
If he wants full retail, why doesn't he just list them on eBay himself? He's either too lazy to do so, or more likely was kicked off for being a scammer.
Don't let idiots like Steve drag you down to their level, they will beat you with experience.... Better to just walk away instead of being sucked into his circular emotionally driven conversation.
Of course the beat route to take would ve to ignore him after he objected to your pricing, but sometimes the mood just gits you. Ive been there with ebay buyers a few times - i want to be nice, but they manage to say something that hits you the wrong way. Agreed that if Steve wants to get top dillar, he better list them up himself
A small amount of information is a dangerous thing and old Steve is definitely operating on a small amount of info. Some people gotta learn the hard way
Truth really hurts when you have a mindset that your comics are worth more than current market prices. Eventually reality will hit Steve like a thunder bolt.
Sadly yes, living in a digital world has caused many people to devolve into real d-bags. They become disconnected and they can forget that they are talking to a real person. Their "real world" attitude is different from their digital life. If "Steve" were to meet you on a convention floor, I am sure that he would still bitch & moan, but I doubt that he would put them blame on you and risk losing a few teeth. Also "Steve"... a sample size of 1 doesn't create a valid data set. Ebay can be used to get an idea of value, only when you use it correctly.
Hello. I think that you handled the situation quite well. I am certain that I myself would not have tried as hard to convince the guy that he would not get what he wants. I am not a 'dealer' or 'seller' so I do not go through those kinds of situations. He seems to be 'hard up' to get rid of those items. You may think twice the next time.....Have a good day.
This guy doesn't seem to have a clue. Thinking what he paid has any bearing on the offer, comparing a newsstand edition with direct edition as if they're the same, and thinking your offer isn't a fair offer. You make the most fair offers in the community from what I've seen. He's definitely the a-hole. Hoping to have mystery box luck this go around 🤞🤞
If Steve knew so much then why constant u in the first place 😆. He didn't know how to humble him self once who knew he was was wrong, and say I'm just mad that I paid so much and can't fully recover what I paid.
Yeah I mean I think you did the right thing to try to end things on a positive note. I don’t think you did anything wrong. Steve just seems to be an uneducated guy, when it comes to looking up the right books and finding out comps lol. Just had one question, what shelves do you use on your wall for your PC? They present the books really nice, looking to pick some up myself.
you will get more money but you also take more risks. You risk the buyer returning the book using eBay's slant towards the buyer. You risk negative feedback on eBay just because someone is mad about something.
To make a long story short. If you pay a certain price for a collectible, it doesn't mean you always get more than what you pay. The collectible market always fluctuates.😮 Way to go, Bry!😊
No one has accountability for there actions and sever Diarrhea of the thumbs lol happy Thanksgiving bry to you and your family I have already gotten my new mystery box I'm excited.
"Not going well" is the best statement to define what's going on right now. So much entitlement without perspective... without recognizing that their opinion isn't the only one that matters. From comics to entertainment to politics we have lost our empathy and understanding. Hope we can find our way.
well said.
“The price that YOU paid has NOTHING to do with what THEY are currently valued at”. EXACTLY! I appreciate you being a great comic book community member and that is why…I “Buy from Bry”. Keep grinding bro!✌️
Think You Handled The Situation Very Well BRY.
This guy is exactly what is wrong with the comic book community. People do not use logic or reason and want the world to cater to them. Steve was one of these fools. God bless your attempt, Bry!
I had Steve's mentality when I was in early high school. Since then I grew up and learned that businesses don't work that way. I appreciate the fact that you tried to explain. As a person that likes to learn it would have been a beneficial to listen and learn vs assume all knowing status.
LOL the dissonance is real with "Steve". This is a prime example of someone who can't accept that the books he bought months ago are worth a lot less today, and he's mad as hell about it. A true dilettante. I also love how he can't comprehend the simple fact that GPA data also includes eBay sales, among other sites.
You handled this well, Bry. The only thing I didn't see (I am working as I watch this video to be fair so I may have missed it) is did you inform him on the massive chasm in value for newsstand vs direct? For him to compare the two versions of the book tells me that he is likely a noob, or a thief who is trying to rob a pro. Not that it's your job to show everyone where they went wrong, but if we maaaaaaaybe want to give Steve some benefit of the doubt that he isn't totally clueless, this may have helped.
You handled it very politely Bry..love your vids…always transparent and honest
You were very nice to do all the back and forth..with some people that can’t acknowledge current market prices I end the debate early, thank them for their time and move on
Your time is more valuable
You did your best and stayed professional. Thanks for sharing, Bry. Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy thanksgiving!
You’re to kind, you were a champion throughout the conversation. Unfortunately, when you’re successful, it comes with some disappointing moments.
The person’s just pissed he got conned. It sucks but it’s part of flipping. You did good Bry, no worries on your part!
Love your customer interaction!
You handled it professionally Bry! Business is business-if the seller viewed it from a business perspective he would’ve used your offer as a baseline and try to sell the books himself if he wanted to get more verses getting upset
You handled this very well my man. Steve seems like he is in denial about his loss and it brought the true ahole out of him. He should have stopped once he started judging. You can give me your two cents of what you believe to be facts and we can discuss like adults, but once you make it personal it's over.
Then sell it your dang self steve ya big goof 😂
Bry, I love your content. This is just like dating. It's just not going to "work out" with everyone, as much as you'd wanted it to be. I wouldn't get in the rabbit hole moving forward with a person's negativity. Keep doing you!
Collectibles are only worth what someone else is willing to pay, you handled this great, it seems Steve hasn't been doing this long and needs to understand the rarity of newsstands in the late modern age !
Poor Steve was blinded by the high value of his comics when he first bought them, never realizing that values can drop and his comics are not worth the same anymore.
You are correct to call out the “Steve’s”, Karen’s and Ken’s of this community. The consequence, and he should have a one, is correct and just. We need to police ourselves.
You tried to teach him and now he wears the cone of shame!
You bruised his ego when you pointed out his mistake and then he spiralled.
Yo did the right thing 🖖🏾
NTA.
Steve is a piece of work that clearly doesn't know how business works. You are 100% correct about how how the internet has given many people "keyboard courage". Like the rapper The Game said, don't let Mark Zuckerberg get you knocked out.
Interesting interaction. As a counselor, I deal a lot with people and various perspectives on life. I don't want to be long winded but since feedback was requested...First, I don't think that this person is "What's wrong" with the comic book community, per se. One reality I work in is that all actions make sense in context. I can understand this person's frustration if they don't understand Bry's context. In THAT case, their frustration is understandable. They haven't looked at it from Bry's position or have an understanding of what it takes to run a business. I do think it is correct that in an era of the anonymous internet, i.e. not having to be face to face with someone, people are more prone to overreact and not take the time to see it from another perspective. Bry, a few comments to you. First, I think that you do an amazing job of responding to people. I can't imagine that you actually have the time, but I know that every time I've sent you an email you or Marcus have responded. That's pretty amazing. But I've been on the other end so I have the context of how amazing that is. That being said, a couple things for you to consider. 1) most people aren't going to understand your time limitations. That means, when you send a short response in an email, they will likely read into it whatever mood they happen to be in at the time. 2) validation goes a long way. Validating someone's feelings (not telling them they are correct) can go a long way to helping someone feel seen. For example, "I can see how this might appear and I can understand that it would feel very frustrating. And, I hope you can try to see it from my stand point which is..." This can help alleviate some of that frustration. 3) Since you don't REALLY have the time to respond to every email, probably best to stop responding once you feel the interaction is going sideways. Or, type our a detailed 'canned' explanation of why you have to offer what you offer, how you come to the prices (including the validation piece) that you can add onto emails. This might help. Anyway, I appreciate all that you've helped me with as I've started to make this hobby pay for itself! Keep it up! Cheers.
Bry, you were correct at approximately the 9:03 mark. You could have said "thanks for contacting me but I'll pass and I wish you good luck." The End. It makes no sense to beat a dead horse, especially if he's gonna talk smack. Relationships are an overblown concept. This is business, not friends, IMO.
I definitely have a ton of overlap in my business/friend zone, one of the things I love most about this
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Two things to be recognized.
#1 there will always be unreasonable people.
#2 fostering good relationships is key for almost anything especially in business.
Hi Bry, I viewed the exchange with your request for objective feedback in mind. He was definitely in the wrong. If he thinks he can get more on EBay, he should just sell them himself. As I posted on another video just a few days ago (which is common knowledge to those who understand the business, even if not a seller), what you paid for a book is completely irrelevant to what a book's fair market value is. Add to that his faulty comparisons...and yikes, not only was he wrong, he was rather graceless in refusing to accept the reality that when the time comes, he, like many/most folks, are going to come up short on what they paid for a comic, unless they bought it a loooong time ago. However, part of me can understand his emotion/frustration coming through, cloaked as faulty logic.
Most comic hobbyists looking to recoup some $ someday need to remember that at least they're getting back something for the time they owned and enjoyed the comics...anything is better than nothing, which you can't say for a lot of hobbies. I've already faced the reality that I am going to get "destroyed" on any comics I purchased at or close to FMV, unless they were books I purchased new back in the early 1980's and submitted to CGC myself (such as two copies of ASM #238, one is 9.8, ASM #252 9.8, many X-Men in the 115-143 range at 9.6-9.8, etc.). And you're probably who I'll turn to when the day comes that I sell. I won't have time to sell them myself. Cost of convenience. My alternative is my head-in-sand LCS -- they barely comprehend graded comics, and they're at 10-25 cents for almost all raw comics.
The problem is that no one seems to be willing to compromise anymore or understands basic economics.
If "Steve" thought he could sell them for top dollar on eBay, why didn't he just do that? Genius.
To me you did everything the right way Bry. That guy didn't know anything about what he was talking about. People do your homework on what your selling.
Absolutely! Thank you, as well.
I've had to reach out to you before and the few times we've interacted you have always been professional and fair.
I will say that you are one of the best marketing man I have ever seen. Your mystery box are a piece of genius. You will have a bright future
I would say that "Steve" is confused and you get a C+ for your side. You literally explained things in this video that you should have explained to Steve. Why didn't you explain to him that that Ebay sale was for the newsstand? Why didn't you explain to him about the flaws in Ebay pricing? Why didn't you explain about the convenience fee? Steve lacks social skills to be sure, and was rocking that Dunning-Kreuger effect, but he'll never learn unless someone explains things to him.
You are far too kind Bry. Even though I agree with you about building good customer relations, I have very little tolerance for disrespectful people (customer or not). If a customer says they can sell it for a higher price, I would have no problem encouraging them to do so.
LOOK... THE WORLD IS FULL OF SELF RIGHTEOUS PRICKS... AND STEVE IS AT THE TOP OF HIS GAME...HE WAS JUST LOOKING TO PUSH YOUR BUTTONS AND YOU HANDLED IT PERFECTLY.. AAA+++
Why wouldn't he just use ebay if he feels that way? Always something more to the story with people. 😂
I know right?
Let’s start by saying you were 100% in the right. In the past you and I have discussed a collection of books that I was looking to do in trade with you and while it didn’t work for you, you still offered to buy the books at 60% FMV. You are very clear in your videos, and you were very clear with me. I cannot believe that anyone coming to you would not understand this. You are one of the best at clearly communicating what you will and will not do. Steve just does not get it.
I’ve collected comics for 45 years , owned 2 shops in the 80s and 90s. I’ve ran into many people like ‘ Steve’. They don’t really understand the market, grading and evaluating, or the business side of the hobby. 99% of dealers will explain what they buy sell and trade at and the reason why. A dealer has overhead and needs to make a living. That affects the price they buy and sell at. Bry is a honest person with a good hart. He also buys at a higher price than most dealers. Steve should price the books he wants to sell among other dealers and platforms and compare them. Not be a jerk to someone who is taking the time out of his busy schedule to educate and be kind. I’m just a collector now and glad I don’t have to deal with the ‘Steve’ collectors anymore.
What’s up Bry, Marcus and the creeper in the background! 😂 Bry, as usual you handled it like a pro. Steve on the other hand is a little bit delusional. Actually, he’s a lot a bit delusional.
been dealing with this long before cgc ever existed people think because its old its expensive or they dont understand what conditions mean. My favorite is when they get upset because you aren't interested in what they are selling. Dealers got to make money or why would he do it.😊😊😊
Steves straight getting coal for Christmas.
Great video Bry! You definitely handled it correctly, but Steve did his research after sending his initial email which he based on his cost.
Very professional on your part
Your description of him fits perfectly. He sounds like a kid that doesn’t understand markets or what businesses have to deal with. His loss
I think you handled it as well as anyone could have. Until someone makes the effort to actually sell comic books through any kind of platform, it's difficult to appreciate the time and effort that's required. There are times I've sold some comic books to dealers and was fine with getting less than 40% market value (non-graded books), because I understand that it takes time and effort to move these books and I'd rather have the funds up front than go through trouble of selling the books via a different platform.
Only thing you could have done different is point out that it was a newstand. I don't think he caught iorunderstood that
Absolutely nothing more you could have done. Dude is completely clueless. He’s a comic Karen.
Good data. It happens. Both of you had different options. You handled it with multiple facts and he got upset. Keep it professional and just ended. It was go south fast. Thank you for your content. Happy thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving Bry!
Steve gives no thinks... not a single one.
That Tao cover is nice.🤘
😂😂glad you caught that
Tensions are high with the market being down. I think you handled it as well as possible.
Unfortunately this is common in the hobby and most hobbies where people want to believe their stuff is worth more than what it actually is
Bring the comic market back one nipple at a time. Atta boy Marcus!
Unreasonable people tend to only accept what they WANT to hear in a given situation. I'd say you handled it well. I may have told him to price it out with other dealers and venues and then go with the one he feels the best about.
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I think you handled it perfectly.
Some people are unreasonable.
You did nothing wrong, but I would have stopped at his first reply. Could tell there would be no reasoning with him.
You did well good sir! Don’t let that nonsense phase you sir. Looking forward to that house of secrets 92!
My only advice is that I would have explained to him that he was looking at the selling price for the Newsstand Edition, which is more rare and is not the same version of the book he is trying to sell. I didn't see you mention that in the emails you sent to him. I'm not sure how he would have taken that, but I think it would have been helpful.
Having said that, he probably would have blown it off and acted like Newsstand Editions aren't that big of a deal, even though any comic collector knows it can be a huge deal. He doesn't seem reasonable enough to accept that fact.
He seems to be in the same rut a lot of collectors fall into across all collecting mediums in being convinced that he has things that are worth more than they really are. He also doesn't seem to understand that comics, more than anything else people collect, go up and down in value quite often, and it can happen as quickly as a day. Realistically, he should hang onto these books until their value rises. That 1st appearance of Damian will definitely go up at some point in the future.
Did you tell him that his comp was a newsstand (I didn’t see that in the emails)? That was the only thing I could see that maybe would have made a difference.
But I don’t think that interaction was ever going to go well.
Great video Bry! Love the new store exclusive. ❤
If only we could just be more like Steve: entitled, misinformed, arrogant, judgmental and selfish, perhaps then we could sell our comic books and become New York real estate tycoons!😂
You handle it perfectly Bry! There are stupid people in the world that can't be help. People nowadays are lacking real world experience and not living in reality.
I think I would have actually mentioned what you said: "It doesn't matter what you paid for them, this is what their current value is."
You could also point out the opposite point of view: someone selling an ASM 300 for example. "Hey man, you bought that when it came out and it was $1.00 so factoring in the cost of slabbing the book at $35 I can only offer you $36." It really is the same argument but the opposite side of the coin.
I think that other thing folks forget is that you have a business to run. You aren't buying these for your own PC. You are buying and then selling - like any other retailer - to make a profit. I don't know how many times I've heard the comment: "But that's not what it's worth." No it isn't. If you want to sell it for what it's worth then start your own business. (That's what I have done).
And finally, social media is more antisocial than it is social. It's like releasing Godzilla from captivity to fight for you - seemed like a good idea at the time but now that he's out... you can't really control him anymore.
You should have called him Richard. Then closed your segment with: "... don't be like Richard. Don't be a Dick." Comedy gold.
Steve sounded young and naive.
“I paid $400 for those 4 books.” That was your first mistake. If you’re trying to resell don’t buy/get anything graded unless you know exactly what you can get out of it
Like u said, u don't set the prices, it is what it is. "Ignorance is bliss" as they say.
Sounds like you were being fair. Often people are still believing the prices haven't changed from 2021.
I bought and sold some key issues back in the 90's and the shop owner told me right uprint, I pay 50% of what Overstreets value is at the moment, this is wayyy pre-internet/ eBay. ( does anybody even use Overstreet anymore? ) So it was a wake up call for me then. And yeah things have changed but the market will bear what it will bear aka capitalism. My .02 worth ? I'd have just said, welp, good luck ! And just been done w/ the dialogue with him.
You handled it just fine. But you hit the nail on the head about social media. No consequences for people's actions. Sad.
Your offer was very fair!
@Bry's Comics When do you do a mystery box run with silver and bronze age comics? I don't find store exclusives interesting and always skip them.....
He had an idea of what it was worth coming in and u fortunately the value is dropping on everything. I'm almost embarrassed to list some of the deals I've gotten recently on eBay. He's trying to sell at wrong time.
You handled that very well, Bry. You might have cooled him with an explanation of why you chose your value method and pointed out the inconsistencies of using eBay sold listings. Maybe. But nobody needs to be responsible for educating every person who comes through the door, makes a phone call, or sends an email. And folks like him tend to dig in to their points of view more deeply when confronted with information that either challenges or (gasp!) contradicts their established thinking. It's understandable because it's human nature to be defensive, but far too many folks have the reasonable willingness to move beyond that which is one of the reasons we're becoming angrier and more stupid as a collective. Couple that with the lack of consequences the ethereal filter of protection that cyberspace gives us with that disposition and you have the atomic bomb-drop of free-wheeling numbskulls casting their stupid like raindrops citizenry we currently enjoy. Good times. Good times.
*Sigh*...I am lost for words....sorry Bry.
Steve was the asshole, Bry. He was looking for more money. That’s it. You handled it perfectly. You can’t satisfy everyone.
Lol, edit to add that literally right after I pressed send on the message below, Bry said the EXACT thing. Bottom line I think is that this guy doesn’t understand how the reseller market works. He keeps say8ng he can make more money selling it himself on eBay. Well, of course he can. If he sells it to a reseller in one lump, he gets a lower price because he is “PAYING THE RESELLER” to do all the work (list, market, price, pack, ship, etc...). Honestly, I think this is the bottom line problem here.
You handled that perfectly
I definitely LMAO that you chose "Steve" as the pseudonym. Poor MinorKeys. 🤣
In any case...you are not the @$$hole in this situation, for all the reasons you mentioned.
Unfortunately Steve like many others in this space bought their comics in 2020-2021 which wasn't real life unless you were also SELLING them in 2020-21 lol We will all agree steve is just upset he overpaid and doesn't collect so it hurts his heart he has to look at them sitting there at a loss. If he was a collector he would accept the L sell them and buy something he likes or just hang onto them because he likes the look of the books etc... btw the exclusive you showed is an AMAZING cover, it had a magneto close up look, but a miles.... love it
Love that cover art. May have to get in on the new mystery box…
He sounds like he either needed some “learning,” that he has a knowledge gap from being a bit new. Consider breaking down some basic info if this type of interaction comes up again. Chuck it up to ignorance rather than malice. However, to be honest, i think there’s a strong chance he’s actually a scammer. After running into a few lately they tend to use arguments like this. They rely on flawed comparisons and aggressive shaming language. Either way brotha, keep your head up, I love your shop and your videos. You’re hands down one of the best in our little hobby. Hope you had a great thanksgiving!
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If he wants full retail, why doesn't he just list them on eBay himself? He's either too lazy to do so, or more likely was kicked off for being a scammer.
Don't let idiots like Steve drag you down to their level, they will beat you with experience.... Better to just walk away instead of being sucked into his circular emotionally driven conversation.
Of course the beat route to take would ve to ignore him after he objected to your pricing, but sometimes the mood just gits you. Ive been there with ebay buyers a few times - i want to be nice, but they manage to say something that hits you the wrong way. Agreed that if Steve wants to get top dillar, he better list them up himself
A small amount of information is a dangerous thing and old Steve is definitely operating on a small amount of info. Some people gotta learn the hard way
Truth really hurts when you have a mindset that your comics are worth more than current market prices. Eventually reality will hit Steve like a thunder bolt.
Sadly yes, living in a digital world has caused many people to devolve into real d-bags. They become disconnected and they can forget that they are talking to a real person. Their "real world" attitude is different from their digital life. If "Steve" were to meet you on a convention floor, I am sure that he would still bitch & moan, but I doubt that he would put them blame on you and risk losing a few teeth.
Also "Steve"... a sample size of 1 doesn't create a valid data set. Ebay can be used to get an idea of value, only when you use it correctly.
Hello. I think that you handled the situation quite well. I am certain that I myself would not have tried as hard to convince the guy that he would not get what he wants. I am not a 'dealer' or 'seller' so I do not go through those kinds of situations. He seems to be 'hard up' to get rid of those items. You may think twice the next time.....Have a good day.
Hear, hear, brother! ☕
You handled it well
“Steve” should have did his comic homework…..
You went above and beyond Bry. Trolls are going to be trolls. Just bought another mystery box (haven't missed one!)...appreciate ya
What a joker 😂
Happy Thanksgiving!
This guy doesn't seem to have a clue. Thinking what he paid has any bearing on the offer, comparing a newsstand edition with direct edition as if they're the same, and thinking your offer isn't a fair offer. You make the most fair offers in the community from what I've seen. He's definitely the a-hole. Hoping to have mystery box luck this go around 🤞🤞
If Steve knew so much then why constant u in the first place 😆. He didn't know how to humble him self once who knew he was was wrong, and say I'm just mad that I paid so much and can't fully recover what I paid.
Yeah I mean I think you did the right thing to try to end things on a positive note. I don’t think you did anything wrong. Steve just seems to be an uneducated guy, when it comes to looking up the right books and finding out comps lol. Just had one question, what shelves do you use on your wall for your PC? They present the books really nice, looking to pick some up myself.
Just wait until he tries to sell you his Beanie Baby collection. ;)
Steve has a serious case of main character syndrome.
It's crazy. But that's like regular retail. Always Karen's and Kevin's. LOL.
you will get more money but you also take more risks. You risk the buyer returning the book using eBay's slant towards the buyer. You risk negative feedback on eBay just because someone is mad about something.
To make a long story short. If you pay a certain price for a collectible, it doesn't mean you always get more than what you pay. The collectible market always fluctuates.😮 Way to go, Bry!😊
No one has accountability for there actions and sever Diarrhea of the thumbs lol happy Thanksgiving bry to you and your family I have already gotten my new mystery box I'm excited.