Compared to a few years ago bigs weren’t even remotely expected to shoot jump shots and now we have 3 big MVP finalists that can handle the ball well and pull up from range, the game really is evolving. Love the videos Jxmy!
@@-ac-8296 Those are 3 all-time greats and Hakeem hit 25 3 pointers total throughout his entire career. They all had great short mid-range games but none of them could use the 3 like many bigs are expected to today.
Once big men learned to get a shot, they were remotely impossible to defend without having to get fouled or the opposing team to pray that they miss, it’s absolutely hectic
exactly. big men were taught and trained to be physical and use their body in the 90s-10s, since the perimeter game wasn't as prevalent as it is now, they were the best as they were the biggest and strongest people on the court. as 3 points and iso game evolved, big men were left behind, the last 15 years has just been them adjusting their game to catch up, and they finally have. league is in wraps, big men are back.
Jxmy forgot to mention that these are three foreign born players. International development is the main reason that NBA players from the past are not equal to current players.
@@andyotto9159 big men have been like this my g. Look up the father of domantas sabonis, all I gotta say lol. They just haven’t been allowed the same freedoms as gaurds, a couple years ago it was frowned upon to be 7ft and standing at the 3 pt line.
Another masterpiece of a video! Just 4-5 years ago, people were discussing about the decline of the big men. And now, we have the best big men battling for MVP. What a time to be alive as an NBA fan
Jxmy shows so much love to Jokic in many of his videos when so many people in the media dont. It shows that he actually watches the game! Great work jxmy, keep it up!
Not just the nba but in all sports. Things are changing as superstars are becoming more advanced and changing their game. Being a genetic specimen alone or relying only on talent isn't going to work anymore.
Garbage. Messi isn't a genetic specimen and is the best footballer in the last 15 years. Some say probably in the top 3 of all time. Comparing the top players of different sports is ridiculous.
@@Romamb that’s his point. Being a genetic specimen isn’t enough anymore. Players like Messi from all types of sports are showing that skill rains supreme.
@@marvaff6878 If you are serious, he seems to often ignore rule changes or not know of rule changes that may have changed the game. He also greatly downplays players of the past -- even from 25 years ago. In this video itself, he suggesting these 3 bigs are perhaps the 3 best of all-time but ignoring that stats are going crazy because the game changed. If 3 of the highest PERs are in on season, it likely means the game has changed that it's easier for players to rack up statistics. He isn't adjusting for how the game is played. Thinking Basketball and even Clayton (can't remember the whole name) have a much better understanding of stats and know how look at players of the past. Jimmy here is better at just highlights and more 'fun' topics but deeper dives into stats across different eras, Jimmy has extreme recency bias.
@@marvaff6878 I realized I made a comment elsewhere with more details: This Channel has so much recency bias and seems ignôránt of important details. “15 years ago the teams started going with guards”. There were some major rule changes starting in 2004 that opened the game and made it harder for a post only big man. Then around 2014 the nba figured out the 3 was very important so it gave even more value to small ball. Stats the past decade are so padded because the nba removed hand checking and allowed less contact by defensive players. Offensive plays also no revolve around single players much more - That’s why right now there are 2 players at 30pts 11reb 4ast, another at 27pts 13reb 8 ast and guards and SF at 25-30pts 7-10 ast. Westbrook was averaging a triple double for several years and Harden was a 30pts 10ast 8 reb machine. This is a a reflection of rule changes that made offense easier.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson I agree - it’s far easier in this generation to accumulate stats. The game has certainly changed to the advantage of the offensive player - and that’s even before Steph Curry/Golden State Warriors being the pre-cursor to the 3-intensive offence seen across the league.
Jimmy is having a great playoffs but he still isn’t a efficient shooter , and a turnover machine and can be stomped by a team having good paint defense . I love the way he’s been playing but I doubt he can keep this high of level of play going .
Jimmy, I’ve been a huge fan for a long time, and I’ve gotta say, your content has continued to improve so much over these past years. Keep killing the game my brother!!!
i remember seeing him in his rookie year and thinking to myself, if this guy bulks up, he could be a mixture of Shaq/KD. Shooting and pulling up like KD but also driving and getting to the basket as quick as KD can but with the power of Shaq (obv not the same power as Shaq, no one will top that). But to see the amount of work and improvement he has put into the game is incredible. Glad he evolved and improved the way he has. I dont think hell be a shooter like KD but it would be an insane kit for him to have.,
Considering that these three men are all international players, I hypothesize that the international talent pool is at the tipping point of matching the US. These guys, along with Doncic and many others are just the first wave of phenomenal players coming from overseas that show that the game has grown to the point that it is not the “big man being back”. The dominant big man highlighted in Jimmy’s video is actually the international player who has the measurables to have NBA draft priority. With today’s improved player development and talent identification more players at every position will challenge the US players in the NBA and in international competition like last years Olympic tournament. This is a wonderful video highlighting some of the best international prospects who have developed into MVP candidates/laureates, and soon we will recognize that these men were not the shepherds of a resurgence of the post playmaker but rather the inception of the truly international game of basketball. Thanks Jimmy!
@@gordonlove5121 yep. I mean Doncic, Jokic, Gobert, and Giannis are living on different parts of Europe. Imagine them if the whole Europe merge as a one big country as the US.
Make a video about how big players are getting injured more often and play less as the NBA goes on (for example Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes while playing all games and this year only five players playes all 82)
I think this year was a little different because they’ve had 2.5 season in like 1.75 years, so every player is playing to hard and getting injured, so they have to miss more games or take games off to rest. This means the non superstars get more minutes, and also make the injury list because they are playing harder than usual. In a few years, they will get healthier, or the NBA will lower the regular season games
Bro Jimmy got me into the world basketball. In a country and continent where basketball is nothing, I stumbled upon this man's content and now I'm a big NBA fan. Congrats on 2 mil bruh
The thing that makes these videos so great is the way you lay out everything in such an easy way to understand. As someone who’s just getting into the world of sports it makes learning everything so much easier
@@chasehansen5397 you’re on crack, he’s clearly 3rd he can’t perform in the second half against good teams. Beating up on Rudy siakam vucevuc and capela by foul baiting means nothing. They won’t beat the heat, on everything I hold sacred
Embiid will end his career as the most skilled player of all time. Hakeems finesse and footwork, Shaqs physical presence and mentality combined with Durants shot creating and shooting. not to mention, such and underrated passer, fast as fuck and can dribble.
@@andyotto9159 Durants shot creating and shooting ? I know he had a bad series but stopppp it and I’m a Celtics fan. You could argue the others tho even tho I disagree.
Back when the NBA didn't have as much various skills the big men dominated because they were big and could rise up and score more easily over the smaller player. But then as the game progressed guards could easily pick up better handling and shooting to put their game far above the rest of the players. Now in today's game the few big men who are capable of adapting and adopting the skills of capable guards, shooters, and all around scoring/defending, the Big men have the clear advantage since they have the skills of elite-level guards with the dominant size of a 7 footer.
@@TheLegend-zh9zm he never plays like a big man tho, no one’s scared of him on defense and he barely looks to back down and rebound. He’s the most skilled 7ft player but I wouldn’t call him a big man because he truly is jus a guard
So Karl Malone And Charles Barkley are Big men but Lebron and KD aren’t ? Lebron was 270pounds in his prime, that’s 30pounds heavier than Giannis, Lebron was shooting 56% from the field, doing most of his damage in the paint. So what’s your definition of a big man ?
@@Anthonydu01630 I'd say "big man" is the role on the team. What he means is you aren't going to see KD driving hard as a roller on a pick and roll, or Lebron sitting on the block while his guard sets up an offense. Lebron will set up an offense like a point guard and Kevin Durant looks to get open off of off ball screens and Isoing on the perimeter.
@@bpswank429 That would be a bully to James Harden because he thought that these big men athleticisms are not a talent. I mean he said that Giannis was not talented. Imagine 5 Giannis guarding up on you or you trying to guard them. I cant
Imagine if Sabonis didn't have problems with the Soviet drafting issue. I wouldn't be surprised if MJ or Hakeem have one less championship on their resume.
*2:50** One thing to keep in mind is that the NBA didn’t record blocks and steals until the 1973-74 season so Wilt Chamberlain’s PER doesn’t take into account his blocks and steals*
@Wallace1p Bro Wilt was strong but he wasn’t Shaq, Wilt was 290-300 pounds, Shaq was 290 as a rookie and was like 325-350 in his prime, with a much bigger frame, even guys like Lebron, Zion, Dwight Howard, Steven Adams and many more are probably as strong as Wilt, maybe more, Wilt was a freak but you have a lot’of freak in the history of the sports.
@@Anthonydu01630 Adams is different though, his strength isn't how much he can lift, it's how immovable he is. I'd love to see prime Adams set a pick on prime Shaq
@Wallace1p stop lying. There is literally no way to know that. If he played in this era he would have been born maybe late 90s and would've developped differently, so there is no way to know. He might've not even want to be a basketball player if he was born in the 90s, there are way too many variables
the moment when watching the 3big men mixtapes, the movement and flow, i tip my hat, the effort, work and ideas on the court are as professional or more to say easy and effortless as experiencing art.
Scary how Luka already had two 45 club seasons in 4 years of carrer in the NBA, and its about to be All NBA First Team for the third time in those 4 year. Imagine his level in his 10th season..... Is gonna be a cheat code
Your videos are a love letter to basketball, no where in the world of sports media will you find stories so compelling and well researched. You're the biggest basketball nerd I've ever seen and I fucking LOVE IT!!
Most consistent non biased looks into basketball. Love it. I would love a look into why Steph is so loved and why, despite having the same type of game as Steph, Trae is becoming the biggest villain in the East. Keep at it High Roller
And there's other players like Ayton or KAT that aren't on the level of these three, but 10 years ago would be 1st or 2nd team NBA and they're still YOUNG. The big men didn't go away (only) because the game changed. They went away because somehow there was no one good enough.
I think the training and mentality for big men has seen a huge shift over the past decade. It took them some time to adapt to the modern game, but I fully believe that the future of the NBA will be 7-foot freaks with guard skills.
Exactly, 7 footers are not common so that makes sense that there were simply no big men of MVP level skill and talent up until these past three or four years.
On the PER point, it should be noted that before the 80s blocks, steals, and offensive/defensive rebounds were not counted. Given this, Wilt would have a decenetly higher PER. Still crazy that 3 dudes are havin this crazy a season, just wanted to point this out.
@@gordonlove5121 Gordon to say he played against nobodies is disrespectful. Secondly idk if you realize this Wilt is probably the greatest human specimen to walk the earth in term of athletics! Go look at when he was doing in college in track and field and that not to mention rule changes like the free throw wilt chamberlain in college dunk from the free throw line from the top of the key in three steps since no one else could do or ever seen doing that they changed the rules in college that you had to specifically shoot free throws with out passing the line. No matter the Era Wilt would have been successful cause no one was like him. Final note wilt benched over 500 pounds with out breaking a sweat according to all the body builders and Arnold Schwarzenegger stated wilt picked him up with ease made Arnold feel like a child in his arm.
@@PathtoYahawah tbf wilt was 30 cm taller than arnold. i mean arnie is a big dude by normal standards but its just mindboggling how big some of these bigmen in the nba are/were. you kinda lose the perspective since they are mostly seen next to other nba players but these guys are just gigantic. someone like wilt or embiid are basically a different species just from a physical standpoint. its no wonder he could lift arnie in the air without a problem, for him it was basically like lifting a child would be for an ordinary grown man.
@@peterpan3022 Joel is not on the same level as Wilt man slow it down a bit wilt was a track star in high jump long jump and running and Joel is not lifting over 500 pounds the last NBA player I heard lifting close to that or 500 is Ben Wallace. Yea out of the human species they are on a different lvl 7 footers but in that realm Wilt is the cream of the crop in totality!
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction... After the Warriors won the championship using small ball, many teams (Being that the NBA is a copycat league) Either went small or had a small-ball line-up. This has left the door open for talented big men to dominate.
The big men had to evolve into having the skill set and agility to play like a guard. Then they dominate. Hitting outside shots and making assist and getting rebounds. Not just posting up with their back to the basket but having perimeter game to go with the inside game.
awesome stuff again. just on the "45" club 11:18 - Luka Doncic is also in is in the 21/22 season? 28.4+8.7+9.1 = 46.2 .. - even round down, 28+8+9 = 45
Wow. Just wow. I do not understand how Jxmmy so consistently outputs such high quality content. I think this might be my favourite video on RUclips of all time👏👏👏
The big man is back. Made a whole video of how good the best big men have been and didn’t even have to mention Kat and Gobert to prove your point. Another Jxmy W vid.
Hot take: ball possession/touches and area’s where players receive the ball influences PER ratings. Doncic had 10 more touches a game than Embiid and probably farther away from the rim, which makes it more difficult to have a high PER. Also the amount of touches makes it harder to have a high PER. Would love to see Jimmy’s take on this
Yes, it has an influence, but even then, they didn't just have the highest PER's this season, they had 3 of the top 10 PER's in NBA history. There have been plenty of dominant big men who had a similar amount of touches and shot selections, and none of them have even come close to the PER's of these 3. Regardless of the amount of touches, this feat is revolutionary.
@@avinashanand17 Jimmy has too much recency bias and isn’t good at understanding not only the changes in rules over time but also advance stats. PER are through the roof not because these 3 players are 3 or the top 5 or 10 players but because they are great players playing in an era where the rules and officiating have made it a very offensive game and the teams are using individual players far more than before. It’s not just these big 3 but Westbrook was putting up triple doubles seasons for year, Harden was a 30pt 10ast 7 reb machine etc. Luka is a 28pt 8ast 8 reb machine. These are averages not seen for many decades all happening by several different players in the past 8 or so years.
As american basketball was focusing on flashy 3 pt logo players, the world kept giving importance to big men, all of them are foregin players. Gobert, Towns , Horford, Embid, Jokic, Giannis, Vucevik, Valanciunas... and the list goes on. Just look at USA teams, super teams without any decent big man
Just goes to show you how dominant Charles Barkley was athletically. Closest modern day comparison is Zion. Barkley was lucky to have Moses Malone in his ear about being too fucking fat and him being mature enough to listen to that advice. With Zion we've seen what happens when that advice is ignored.
Honestly I think the guard focus and small ball integration was the best thing that could’ve happened for bigs, cuz upcoming big men knew they couldn’t just score they points in the paint, so we started seeing more and more bigs score from wherever they want
Man I loved this! Thank you Jimmy for giving props to these players! Certain talking heads don't want to give all of them their props, but you're unbiased and make the content digestable :)
@@wolfof Im not actually saying this should happen. It's just another way of saying they all deserve it damn near equally. It's also not CLEARLY Jokic. Id probably favor him just narrowly over the other two, but it's so extremely close that it's really hard to get mad at any of them winning it. There's no CLEAR winner. They all bring something different to the table
@@wolfof he is leading in everything Because his team sucks not in spite of it. Its easier to get stats if every single play of your team is going over you.
Being a bucks fan since I was very young and watching Giannis grow as a player, this video gave me chills. To think that 3 of the best players in the league are all big men with different play styles is absurd to me and I'm here for it.
Can we just give them all a mutual MVP. An embiid fan, but all these guys are insane. Giannis wins in pure physicality and the ability to dominate, embiid puts up insane scoring numbers and can put the team on his back, and jokics advanced stats and impact are unprecedented. Give them all a trophy...
personally i want embiid to win, i believe jokic will cos meat riders but embiid has been the most unguardable player since shaq, and possibly the most skillful weve ever seen. hes a combination of hakeem, shaq and durant
@@jacksonlong8677 yeah i cant argue with that, no murray or mpj and still 50 wins is pretty crazy. does boost his stats tho with no other stars, but in terms of mvp he is the most valuable.
Jokic: 6.3 fta/game Embiid: 11.8 fta/game Giannis: 11.3 fta/game Jokic would've averaged over 31 PPG & won the scoring title last year, were he granted as many free throw attempts as Embiid. 31 > 27.3 + (11.8 - 6.3) x 80%
I don't even really LIKE basketball. It's probably my 4th favorite sport and I watch maybe a handful of games every year. But I watch EVERY Jxmy video... This man makes some of the best content on RUclips.
I’m not even a basketball fan and I love your videos so much. The pacing, the narration, the editing. You are able to construct a truly engaging short film for fans and non-fans alike. Great work!
Thanks for the content, Jimmy; you are one of my favorite NBA content creators ever. I love that the big man is coming back, it’s time to put rumble ball back into the league.
This is what the 90's were like...the big man was everything and you built around them...the game was inside out and rim protection made it difficult to score inside...Just watching this video makes me appreciate MJ even more than I already did and that's in no way me diminishing any of today's players or today's game...Just a thought
which is why i’ve said before and I’ll always say it…in this foul heavy and a worse defensive era, mj would average 40-50 points per game, mj was scoring against the most physical and dominant bigs and defensive teams ever to date
@@byxisboii5397 I'm not saying that per se because an argument can be made that defensive schemes are tougher now, I'm only saying that the big man when really good can clearly make or break a team and back then teams were constructed with the big man in mind above all else and Jordan succeeded in that time period so my appreciation for him based on this video increased
Jimmy, I’m not even an NBA fan but the quality of your content is so great that I’m slowly becoming one. don’t have much else to say aside from keep up the good work 👍
Compared to a few years ago bigs weren’t even remotely expected to shoot jump shots and now we have 3 big MVP finalists that can handle the ball well and pull up from range, the game really is evolving. Love the videos Jxmy!
There was Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem just to name a few. Learn history FFS 🙄 even remotely my ass
@@-ac-8296 Those are 3 all-time greats and Hakeem hit 25 3 pointers total throughout his entire career. They all had great short mid-range games but none of them could use the 3 like many bigs are expected to today.
@@-ac-8296 they couldn’t shoot like the bigs nowadays can
3? Giannis can't shoot.
@@imagine5366 giannis has shot pretty consistently gotten better and he is reliable from 3
The NBA has changed so much throughout the years, it's honestly so beautiful to see the changes & to be able to live history.
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@@forgivezharion8500 Yo are you a bot? You have been spamming this on every RUclips comment.
@@NateTheGreatNDT I don't even know what he's trying to say either
Your ability to bring up a graph, set the context, then reveal the twist is still incredible even though I know it's coming. Well done!
Once big men learned to get a shot, they were remotely impossible to defend without having to get fouled or the opposing team to pray that they miss, it’s absolutely hectic
exactly. big men were taught and trained to be physical and use their body in the 90s-10s, since the perimeter game wasn't as prevalent as it is now, they were the best as they were the biggest and strongest people on the court. as 3 points and iso game evolved, big men were left behind, the last 15 years has just been them adjusting their game to catch up, and they finally have. league is in wraps, big men are back.
Jxmy forgot to mention that these are three foreign born players. International development is the main reason that NBA players from the past are not equal to current players.
@@andyotto9159 big men have been like this my g. Look up the father of domantas sabonis, all I gotta say lol. They just haven’t been allowed the same freedoms as gaurds, a couple years ago it was frowned upon to be 7ft and standing at the 3 pt line.
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@@philwilson609 yeah true
Another masterpiece of a video! Just 4-5 years ago, people were discussing about the decline of the big men. And now, we have the best big men battling for MVP. What a time to be alive as an NBA fan
Wonder if it was because of chance that they all were mvp candidates right now or did all of them train how to play in todays NBA (3pts, assist…).
It’s so boring to watch tho, all of them are Drama queens. Raise the damn hoop, it’s too easy for them
and possibly the THREE best big men in HISTORY. Pretty Mind Blowing.
I love the nab for these reasons. constant evolution.
@@NickNificent idk about in history just yet but maybe one day… don’t wash away what’s happened for the moment
Jxmy shows so much love to Jokic in many of his videos when so many people in the media dont. It shows that he actually watches the game! Great work jxmy, keep it up!
Congrats on 2 million subs Jxmy!!! Well deserved for all the amazing content you give us!
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@@forgivezharion8500 dead meme
Not just the nba but in all sports. Things are changing as superstars are becoming more advanced and changing their game. Being a genetic specimen alone or relying only on talent isn't going to work anymore.
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Garbage.
Messi isn't a genetic specimen and is the best footballer in the last 15 years. Some say probably in the top 3 of all time. Comparing the top players of different sports is ridiculous.
@@Romamb his genetics failed him
@@Romamb Messi is the GOAT it's not even close and Messi has a good build for Football/Soccer
@@Romamb that’s his point. Being a genetic specimen isn’t enough anymore. Players like Messi from all types of sports are showing that skill rains supreme.
Huge congrats on 2mil Jxmy, you've been my main avenue into basketball for years through tough times, keep on rising
He’s got a bit of too much recency bias and seems to be uneducated on some of history.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson such as?
@@marvaff6878 If you are serious, he seems to often ignore rule changes or not know of rule changes that may have changed the game. He also greatly downplays players of the past -- even from 25 years ago. In this video itself, he suggesting these 3 bigs are perhaps the 3 best of all-time but ignoring that stats are going crazy because the game changed. If 3 of the highest PERs are in on season, it likely means the game has changed that it's easier for players to rack up statistics. He isn't adjusting for how the game is played.
Thinking Basketball and even Clayton (can't remember the whole name) have a much better understanding of stats and know how look at players of the past. Jimmy here is better at just highlights and more 'fun' topics but deeper dives into stats across different eras, Jimmy has extreme recency bias.
@@marvaff6878 I realized I made a comment elsewhere with more details:
This Channel has so much recency bias and seems ignôránt of important details. “15 years ago the teams started going with guards”. There were some major rule changes starting in 2004 that opened the game and made it harder for a post only big man. Then around 2014 the nba figured out the 3 was very important so it gave even more value to small ball. Stats the past decade are so padded because the nba removed hand checking and allowed less contact by defensive players. Offensive plays also no revolve around single players much more - That’s why right now there are 2 players at 30pts 11reb 4ast, another at 27pts 13reb 8 ast and guards and SF at 25-30pts 7-10 ast. Westbrook was averaging a triple double for several years and Harden was a 30pts 10ast 8 reb machine. This is a a reflection of rule changes that made offense easier.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson I agree - it’s far easier in this generation to accumulate stats. The game has certainly changed to the advantage of the offensive player - and that’s even before Steph Curry/Golden State Warriors being the pre-cursor to the 3-intensive offence seen across the league.
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Jimmy is having a great playoffs but he still isn’t a efficient shooter , and a turnover machine and can be stomped by a team having good paint defense . I love the way he’s been playing but I doubt he can keep this high of level of play going .
@@him280 lmao
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Jimmy, I’ve been a huge fan for a long time, and I’ve gotta say, your content has continued to improve so much over these past years. Keep killing the game my brother!!!
As a Utah native, I remember going to a game early in his career when Giannis struggled to get 10 points against Gobert. Look at him now. Terrifying.
Now Gobert struggles to get 10 on Giannis
@@mepd3350 i mean gobert is not an offensive player so it’s not that impressive
i remember seeing him in his rookie year and thinking to myself, if this guy bulks up, he could be a mixture of Shaq/KD. Shooting and pulling up like KD but also driving and getting to the basket as quick as KD can but with the power of Shaq (obv not the same power as Shaq, no one will top that). But to see the amount of work and improvement he has put into the game is incredible. Glad he evolved and improved the way he has. I dont think hell be a shooter like KD but it would be an insane kit for him to have.,
Considering that these three men are all international players, I hypothesize that the international talent pool is at the tipping point of matching the US. These guys, along with Doncic and many others are just the first wave of phenomenal players coming from overseas that show that the game has grown to the point that it is not the “big man being back”. The dominant big man highlighted in Jimmy’s video is actually the international player who has the measurables to have NBA draft priority. With today’s improved player development and talent identification more players at every position will challenge the US players in the NBA and in international competition like last years Olympic tournament. This is a wonderful video highlighting some of the best international prospects who have developed into MVP candidates/laureates, and soon we will recognize that these men were not the shepherds of a resurgence of the post playmaker but rather the inception of the truly international game of basketball. Thanks Jimmy!
To be fair, if all of Europe are one country, the talent pool would be the same if not better so it's not a surprise.
nicely put
@@s_ame1135 international talent pool > Europe, What are you even saying?
@@gordonlove5121 It’s not the USA vs the world though is it, it’s the USA vs individual nations. Some of which are catching up very quickly…
@@gordonlove5121 yep. I mean Doncic, Jokic, Gobert, and Giannis are living on different parts of Europe. Imagine them if the whole Europe merge as a one big country as the US.
Make a video about how big players are getting injured more often and play less as the NBA goes on (for example Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes while playing all games and this year only five players playes all 82)
I feel like he has recently
Teams today play alot faster, more skill so playing is more taxing on the body
I think this year was a little different because they’ve had 2.5 season in like 1.75 years, so every player is playing to hard and getting injured, so they have to miss more games or take games off to rest. This means the non superstars get more minutes, and also make the injury list because they are playing harder than usual. In a few years, they will get healthier, or the NBA will lower the regular season games
@@n1hoopzz not really the old style of play took more of a toll on the body but the main reason is they players had less of a off-season this yest
@@n1hoopzz I think I can think of some reasons too but Jimmy's videos are always so insightful
Bro Jimmy got me into the world basketball. In a country and continent where basketball is nothing, I stumbled upon this man's content and now I'm a big NBA fan. Congrats on 2 mil bruh
The thing that makes these videos so great is the way you lay out everything in such an easy way to understand. As someone who’s just getting into the world of sports it makes learning everything so much easier
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If the Bucks and 76ers can make it to the ECF, that'd be an insane series.
Bam and TimeLord: "If"
Too bad the Celtics are gonna spoil that
@@brodypotts2360 false Giannis Stomp 😈
@@kofig8357 yeah stomp out of the area back to Milwaukee in 6
76ers would always choke so that BIGCRYBABY can have his Memes!
Looking at Giannis stats, he damn nea could go down as the greatest player ever in 15 years if he keeps it up
i would already put him on a top nba team
he's already top 20 all time
He's mediocre
No he won't, easier rules for offensive success.
@@bos3835 we got a Giannis hater
Jokic, Embiid, and Giannis have been playing at an unreal level this season.
Embiid is not on their level
@@girejaggu4653 Embiid is the one who should and imo will win MVP this year tho
@@chasehansen5397 you’re on crack, he’s clearly 3rd he can’t perform in the second half against good teams. Beating up on Rudy siakam vucevuc and capela by foul baiting means nothing. They won’t beat the heat, on everything I hold sacred
Embiid will end his career as the most skilled player of all time. Hakeems finesse and footwork, Shaqs physical presence and mentality combined with Durants shot creating and shooting. not to mention, such and underrated passer, fast as fuck and can dribble.
@@andyotto9159 Durants shot creating and shooting ? I know he had a bad series but stopppp it and I’m a Celtics fan. You could argue the others tho even tho I disagree.
Back when the NBA didn't have as much various skills the big men dominated because they were big and could rise up and score more easily over the smaller player. But then as the game progressed guards could easily pick up better handling and shooting to put their game far above the rest of the players. Now in today's game the few big men who are capable of adapting and adopting the skills of capable guards, shooters, and all around scoring/defending, the Big men have the clear advantage since they have the skills of elite-level guards with the dominant size of a 7 footer.
I agree with you, but no big man has the skills of an elite-level guard
@@ChrisMuehlberger60 kd?
@@TheLegend-zh9zm he never plays like a big man tho, no one’s scared of him on defense and he barely looks to back down and rebound. He’s the most skilled 7ft player but I wouldn’t call him a big man because he truly is jus a guard
So Karl Malone And Charles Barkley are Big men but Lebron and KD aren’t ? Lebron was 270pounds in his prime, that’s 30pounds heavier than Giannis, Lebron was shooting 56% from the field, doing most of his damage in the paint.
So what’s your definition of a big man ?
@@Anthonydu01630 I'd say "big man" is the role on the team. What he means is you aren't going to see KD driving hard as a roller on a pick and roll, or Lebron sitting on the block while his guard sets up an offense. Lebron will set up an offense like a point guard and Kevin Durant looks to get open off of off ball screens and Isoing on the perimeter.
Jxmy's videos get me more hyped for NBA than anything the league or mainstream media has ever put out. Keep up the great work.
I’m honestly going to love this new era of basketball that is heading our way.
yes
7ft talk lineups from 1-5 , all can ,shoot dribble ,defend and pass.
@@bpswank429 That would be a bully to James Harden because he thought that these big men athleticisms are not a talent. I mean he said that Giannis was not talented. Imagine 5 Giannis guarding up on you or you trying to guard them. I cant
@@bpswank429 There will be a time that the shortest PG will probably be 6'5". Bigs nowadays are learning guard moves and that's scary.
we are lucky to watch these greats play
Jokic is a great example what Arvydas Sabonis could have been if he came to NBA in his prime (at young age)
Arvydas was much more athletic but not a bad comparison
I still remember 95 'when Danilović dunk over Sabonis 😀
Imagine if Sabonis didn't have problems with the Soviet drafting issue. I wouldn't be surprised if MJ or Hakeem have one less championship on their resume.
@@jeus_saaa if he was with the Blazers in 90 and 92, they might have won both Finals
@@spencer.ross.s Jokic better shooter too but it’s similar
Man, these statistical breakdowns are amazing. So glad I found this channel.
Joker’s passing is ridiculous, and his post moves make him so hard to guard
*2:50** One thing to keep in mind is that the NBA didn’t record blocks and steals until the 1973-74 season so Wilt Chamberlain’s PER doesn’t take into account his blocks and steals*
@Wallace1p Bro Wilt was strong but he wasn’t Shaq, Wilt was 290-300 pounds, Shaq was 290 as a rookie and was like 325-350 in his prime, with a much bigger frame, even guys like Lebron, Zion, Dwight Howard, Steven Adams and many more are probably as strong as Wilt, maybe more, Wilt was a freak but you have a lot’of freak in the history of the sports.
@@Anthonydu01630 Adams is different though, his strength isn't how much he can lift, it's how immovable he is.
I'd love to see prime Adams set a pick on prime Shaq
@Wallace1p stop lying. There is literally no way to know that. If he played in this era he would have been born maybe late 90s and would've developped differently, so there is no way to know. He might've not even want to be a basketball player if he was born in the 90s, there are way too many variables
@@Anthonydu01630 Youre wrong dude. Wilt was a fucking FREAK of nature.. U need to show him some respect
@Wallace1p 😂yeah cause strength= good basketball player. no one knows what he would be in todays game. he played bums
the moment when watching the 3big men mixtapes, the movement and flow, i tip my hat, the effort, work and ideas on the court are as professional or more to say easy and effortless as experiencing art.
Scary how Luka already had two 45 club seasons in 4 years of carrer in the NBA, and its about to be All NBA First Team for the third time in those 4 year. Imagine his level in his 10th season..... Is gonna be a cheat code
Your videos are a love letter to basketball, no where in the world of sports media will you find stories so compelling and well researched. You're the biggest basketball nerd I've ever seen and I fucking LOVE IT!!
Most consistent non biased looks into basketball. Love it. I would love a look into why Steph is so loved and why, despite having the same type of game as Steph, Trae is becoming the biggest villain in the East. Keep at it High Roller
Tons of people hate curry
Considering the success of the three 7 footer lineup for my Cavs this year - I couldn't agree more and I'm very happy this channel agrees
ya'll have the best young team in the east
Or the 6'9 line up of PF-C by the Raptors and the (non talked about) Twin Towers by the Bucks
Cleveland has only one 7fter.
@@GodofDisco You don't consider the Celtics young, I guess
@@coltonkrum6491 yeah They Vets now. Whooping a great's ass in this past playoff rounds has solidified them imo.
And there's other players like Ayton or KAT that aren't on the level of these three, but 10 years ago would be 1st or 2nd team NBA and they're still YOUNG.
The big men didn't go away (only) because the game changed. They went away because somehow there was no one good enough.
I think the training and mentality for big men has seen a huge shift over the past decade. It took them some time to adapt to the modern game, but I fully believe that the future of the NBA will be 7-foot freaks with guard skills.
Glad that someone else mentioned them. Yep, they’re not on the same level but they can still be a threat and have a chance to grow even more.
and you have Bam, Timelord, JJJ, Collins, Allen, Mobley, Siakam, Barnes, Carter Jr who are all young and can become more dominant in years to come
Exactly, 7 footers are not common so that makes sense that there were simply no big men of MVP level skill and talent up until these past three or four years.
I think Mobley might be the next guy, as well.
Just has elite potential.
best part of the day: having lunch while watching a new video from my boy Jxmy. Quality stuff
Man you make some of the best videos out there, let alone the best NBA videos. Keep killin it Jimmy
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Dude thanks but we got the memo in his last 50 videos. You can stop commenting about this.
With his spidey senses, Tobey Maguire would've been the greatest basketball bully of all time.
@@forgivezharion8500 you’re a little weirdo bro, go back to TikTok
Imagine you are about to take a shot and he just uses his webs to take the ball from you in mid air. He would also be the best ball handler ever.
Andrew's Spider-Man would break the back board
@UC4MtYGpc7197Hnvejui81VA oh dang
And he'd still miss the part where that's his problem
i still gets an awe when i hear them say chuck in big man conversations he was 6'6 just astonishing what kind of beast he actually was
On the PER point, it should be noted that before the 80s blocks, steals, and offensive/defensive rebounds were not counted. Given this, Wilt would have a decenetly higher PER.
Still crazy that 3 dudes are havin this crazy a season, just wanted to point this out.
@@gordonlove5121 yeah but he was still dominant though. You've got to be extremely good to average 50pts and 25rbs, even if you ay against nobodies.
@@federicobravi5752 i think Wilt was way ahead of his time
@@gordonlove5121 Gordon to say he played against nobodies is disrespectful. Secondly idk if you realize this Wilt is probably the greatest human specimen to walk the earth in term of athletics! Go look at when he was doing in college in track and field and that not to mention rule changes like the free throw wilt chamberlain in college dunk from the free throw line from the top of the key in three steps since no one else could do or ever seen doing that they changed the rules in college that you had to specifically shoot free throws with out passing the line. No matter the Era Wilt would have been successful cause no one was like him. Final note wilt benched over 500 pounds with out breaking a sweat according to all the body builders and Arnold Schwarzenegger stated wilt picked him up with ease made Arnold feel like a child in his arm.
@@PathtoYahawah tbf wilt was 30 cm taller than arnold. i mean arnie is a big dude by normal standards but its just mindboggling how big some of these bigmen in the nba are/were. you kinda lose the perspective since they are mostly seen next to other nba players but these guys are just gigantic. someone like wilt or embiid are basically a different species just from a physical standpoint. its no wonder he could lift arnie in the air without a problem, for him it was basically like lifting a child would be for an ordinary grown man.
@@peterpan3022 Joel is not on the same level as Wilt man slow it down a bit wilt was a track star in high jump long jump and running and Joel is not lifting over 500 pounds the last NBA player I heard lifting close to that or 500 is Ben Wallace. Yea out of the human species they are on a different lvl 7 footers but in that realm Wilt is the cream of the crop in totality!
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction... After the Warriors won the championship using small ball, many teams (Being that the NBA is a copycat league) Either went small or had a small-ball line-up. This has left the door open for talented big men to dominate.
W take
Man Luka in that 45 club w 21 y old Lebron. These guys are truly generational gifts to the sport.
Always a good day when jimmy drops a vid.
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The big men had to evolve into having the skill set and agility to play like a guard. Then they dominate. Hitting outside shots and making assist and getting rebounds. Not just posting up with their back to the basket but having perimeter game to go with the inside game.
Yes but their post game is still very good especially jokic and embiids
Funny how all three are sitting at home while teams led by perimeter players are playing in the finals.
Always a good day when jimmy uploads
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Was bout to say that 🎉🎊
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Creative (not really it’s sarcasm)
Hakeem Olajuwon is the most complete big man I’ve ever witnessed. He would definitely fit well in this Morden day style of play.
Heck yeah
Jokic definitely a more complete player
Morden
@@paulyshore1942 has jokic ever won dpoy? last time i checked being complete also involves defense.
@@paulyshore1942 Cap
Mate I just want to appreciate your awesome work. I haven't yet seen any person deliver data/stats the way you do. Big love from bahrain 🇧🇭
awesome stuff again. just on the "45" club 11:18 - Luka Doncic is also in is in the 21/22 season? 28.4+8.7+9.1 = 46.2 .. - even round down, 28+8+9 = 45
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you can see luka on the bottom right of the screen
Wilt had 50 points on its own and he wasn’t on the graphic
@@user-io4ge2rw2e 10:25 he says the history of the *modern* nba
@@GodofDisco yes, but he's shown once for his 2019 year. he did it again this year. That's why I said "also" :)
I love that we're now seeing the Revenge of the Big Man.
The Dream finger roll @00:17 and @5:41 is a true work of art. Literally watched that 10 times before I finished the vid.
Thank you so much for always putting every anomaly into retrospect for those to realize what greatness is/was occurring at any time 💞
During the 2016-2017 NBA season, if you take DeMarcus Cousins stats from Sacramento and New Orleans, he averaged 27, 11, 4.6
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finally it's here.
Wow
@The Frigid Ghost of Eric The Actor He has no bitches and no father
But kings sucked so he wasnt considered dominant just really good.
These guys r putting up the numbers while contending
@@sambo416 Pretty sure stats count regardless of how shitty their team is. Been 3 days since I saw a head scratching wtf comment so thanks for this. n
I'm not the world's biggest NBA fan, but man, your videos are so good, I have to subscribe.
Wow. Just wow. I do not understand how Jxmmy so consistently outputs such high quality content. I think this might be my favourite video on RUclips of all time👏👏👏
Jimmy makes content that is both entertaining and informative. Congrats on 2M!
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finally it's here.
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I love how great the competition and skills are in the NBA today. It makes the games so fun to watch
“Bruising 7 footers” then proceeded to name Charles Barkley who stood at 6’6 😭
6'5*
@@paquinraino8180 6’6 you can look it up if you think I’m wrong but that’s the not the point. The point is he wasn’t a 7 footer
Congrats on 2 mil Jxmy!! Well deserved my man, much love and keep up the great content!!
Every time I watch one of these videos, it feels like a movie. Great job, and congrats on 2M.
Crazy how things come full circle… a couple years ago I couldn’t imagine building a team around a big
Banger as usual, keep it up Jimmy
The big man is back. Made a whole video of how good the best big men have been and didn’t even have to mention Kat and Gobert to prove your point. Another Jxmy W vid.
Hot take: ball possession/touches and area’s where players receive the ball influences PER ratings. Doncic had 10 more touches a game than Embiid and probably farther away from the rim, which makes it more difficult to have a high PER. Also the amount of touches makes it harder to have a high PER.
Would love to see Jimmy’s take on this
Yes, it has an influence, but even then, they didn't just have the highest PER's this season, they had 3 of the top 10 PER's in NBA history. There have been plenty of dominant big men who had a similar amount of touches and shot selections, and none of them have even come close to the PER's of these 3. Regardless of the amount of touches, this feat is revolutionary.
jimmy doesnt know enough basketball to respond lol, he thinks PER is an extremely advanced stat that has meaning. he's a casual
@@avinashanand17 ok avinash
Jokić leads the league in touches per game iirc
@@avinashanand17 Jimmy has too much recency bias and isn’t good at understanding not only the changes in rules over time but also advance stats. PER are through the roof not because these 3 players are 3 or the top 5 or 10 players but because they are great players playing in an era where the rules and officiating have made it a very offensive game and the teams are using individual players far more than before. It’s not just these big 3 but Westbrook was putting up triple doubles seasons for year, Harden was a 30pt 10ast 7 reb machine etc. Luka is a 28pt 8ast 8 reb machine. These are averages not seen for many decades all happening by several different players in the past 8 or so years.
James harden having 3 of those historic seasons and having no rings and seeing him now struggling is so unfortunate
just like Barkley, all the stats, none of the rings.
@@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 Barkley > James soften
@@aliciasplaytime6905 oh, crearly, Barkley was a much better player in a much tougher era.
Nah, not really considering the way he plays.
@@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 Yes.
As american basketball was focusing on flashy 3 pt logo players, the world kept giving importance to big men, all of them are foregin players. Gobert, Towns , Horford, Embid, Jokic, Giannis, Vucevik, Valanciunas... and the list goes on.
Just look at USA teams, super teams without any decent big man
I like that you include Barkley as a big man. Even though most people agree he was a shade under 6'5, he played the game like a true big.
Just goes to show you how dominant Charles Barkley was athletically.
Closest modern day comparison is Zion. Barkley was lucky to have Moses Malone in his ear about being too fucking fat and him being mature enough to listen to that advice.
With Zion we've seen what happens when that advice is ignored.
@@castleford2591 yep if Zion was healthy , pelicans would be a heck of a team to play against . What they have shown against the suns is impressive
Honestly I think the guard focus and small ball integration was the best thing that could’ve happened for bigs, cuz upcoming big men knew they couldn’t just score they points in the paint, so we started seeing more and more bigs score from wherever they want
exactly what i was thinking! Steph Curry changing the game help both the guards and the big men
Yup exactly
This is possibly the most stacked NBA era of all time, we are so lucky to be able to watch it week in, week out
Jimmy always making my days with these vids
How tf you know the vid was good. It just uploaded?
@@regis6131 cuz it's always good
Awwweee … How cute
This.
@@AntoineBandele no.. these. As in plural
1:48 Labron needs this
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I listen to these while I’m at work and lemme tell you I’ve learn so much random facts from this man
Man I loved this! Thank you Jimmy for giving props to these players! Certain talking heads don't want to give all of them their props, but you're unbiased and make the content digestable :)
Wish they could do some kind of co-MVP thing, because they're all equally as deserving imo. You can disagree, but that's just my two cents
Jokic is clear MVP. Worst supporting cast and leading every category except PPG
I don’t want Embiid to win but apart from that Jokic deserves it! He’s having one of the best seasons EVER
co-MVPs would ruin history. Jokic is the clear better MVP here.
@@wolfof Im not actually saying this should happen. It's just another way of saying they all deserve it damn near equally. It's also not CLEARLY Jokic. Id probably favor him just narrowly over the other two, but it's so extremely close that it's really hard to get mad at any of them winning it. There's no CLEAR winner. They all bring something different to the table
@@wolfof he is leading in everything Because his team sucks not in spite of it. Its easier to get stats if every single play of your team is going over you.
And NBA finals is presented by two teams doesn't give a shit by big men 🤣🤣🤣
Jimmy makes our day better whenever he uploads 👏🏾
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finally it's here.
The research and the story telling on this channel is impeccable. It's like watching an action sci-fi movie every time.
Thank you for rounding up Gianni’s’ points seeing 29.9 hurts so bad
Started a couple of years ago when Giannis started dominating and then Embiid and Jokic
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2016 Demarcus Cousins averaged 27.8Pts,
10.6 boards (basically 11)
and 4.8 assists
2000 BUCKETS , 1000 BOARDS , 500 DIMES
-jokic
I like how he put Charles Barkley's MVP season with the other big men
And putting his name in the list of “7-footers”
1 year later jokic has a finals mvp ...... this video aged fine
And even the MVP was also Joel Embiid. Kinda happy to see bigs taking over again
KD studying that Keeps promotion
Being a bucks fan since I was very young and watching Giannis grow as a player, this video gave me chills. To think that 3 of the best players in the league are all big men with different play styles is absurd to me and I'm here for it.
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@@forgivezharion8500 found the fatherless child
Go Bucks
@@forgivezharion8500 you a bulls fan ain't you, stay mad
Can we just give them all a mutual MVP. An embiid fan, but all these guys are insane. Giannis wins in pure physicality and the ability to dominate, embiid puts up insane scoring numbers and can put the team on his back, and jokics advanced stats and impact are unprecedented. Give them all a trophy...
personally i want embiid to win, i believe jokic will cos meat riders but embiid has been the most unguardable player since shaq, and possibly the most skillful weve ever seen. hes a combination of hakeem, shaq and durant
All had great seasons but jokic had the best
@@jacksonlong8677 yeah i cant argue with that, no murray or mpj and still 50 wins is pretty crazy. does boost his stats tho with no other stars, but in terms of mvp he is the most valuable.
"This is still a tall mans game" - Jalen Rose
giannis is on the way to become the greatest PF of all time
Jokic averages half as many freethrow attempts as Giannis and Embiid. Crazy
Jokic: 6.3 fta/game
Embiid: 11.8 fta/game
Giannis: 11.3 fta/game
Jokic would've averaged over 31 PPG & won the scoring title last year, were he granted as many free throw attempts as Embiid.
31 > 27.3 + (11.8 - 6.3) x 80%
@@tropickman 31>31.7?
I don't even really LIKE basketball. It's probably my 4th favorite sport and I watch maybe a handful of games every year. But I watch EVERY Jxmy video... This man makes some of the best content on RUclips.
I’m not even a basketball fan and I love your videos so much. The pacing, the narration, the editing. You are able to construct a truly engaging short film for fans and non-fans alike. Great work!
i would love to hear your take on why none of them big boys are getting a ring this year
“And long gone were the days of menacing, game changing seven footers, but all of that is about to change.”
It’s about time.
You know his videos too good when you schedule to watch em certain times 😂
Giannis is just a perfect Shaqowitzki :D
Thanks for the content, Jimmy; you are one of my favorite NBA content creators ever. I love that the big man is coming back, it’s time to put rumble ball back into the league.
This is what the 90's were like...the big man was everything and you built around them...the game was inside out and rim protection made it difficult to score inside...Just watching this video makes me appreciate MJ even more than I already did and that's in no way me diminishing any of today's players or today's game...Just a thought
which is why i’ve said before and I’ll always say it…in this foul heavy and a worse defensive era, mj would average 40-50 points per game, mj was scoring against the most physical and dominant bigs and defensive teams ever to date
@@byxisboii5397 just stop..
@@byxisboii5397 I'm not saying that per se because an argument can be made that defensive schemes are tougher now, I'm only saying that the big man when really good can clearly make or break a team and back then teams were constructed with the big man in mind above all else and Jordan succeeded in that time period so my appreciation for him based on this video increased
@@GeekLifeMike Jordan, Magic, Zeke, Bird and Drexler
@@paquinraino8180 All of em...it's impressive...Magic and Bird were big guys though...They're almost kind of an exception
I hope Jokic can use his PER to beat the warriors
Don't blame him for having such bad team that he pulled to a playoff, cause without him they would struggle even in a G league.
@@strndrp im just saying these advanced stats dont rly mean much in terms of winning
Jimmy, I’m not even an NBA fan but the quality of your content is so great that I’m slowly becoming one. don’t have much else to say aside from keep up the good work 👍
Can we just mention the fact that we're talking about the top players over 7 feet, amd Barkley was soo good that he's included in the list at 6'6"
What in its turn sounds extremely awkward, because Jordan is also 6'6" and no one talks about him as a big man.
Wasn’t he 6’5?
Giannis has averaged 27 PPG 11.5 RPG and 4 APG on 3 seperate occasions.
Does anyone else just not want the videos to end? I love the content and presentation keep it up!
Steph was so good, he even inspired the big men to play like him. It took a decade, but now the super big man is here.