To complicate things more, I think “red meat” as a blanket term is insufficient. The quality of red meat varies *immensely*. Commercial agriculture meats are riddled with antibiotics, preservatives, stress hormones and other garbage I don’t even know about. A proper randomized / controlled analysis would test the quality of meats and control for this as well.
40 yr raw milk drinker-at 70 years old now... About 20 yes ago stopped drinking raw milk & 6 months later I’d developed a large stomach..I’m thin…I decided to get drink a quart of raw milk & within 15 minutes noticed a churning in my stomach which last 2 weeks accompanied by gas..in 2 weeks the churning & gas stopped & my stomach was totally flat like it always was…Only drink 1 cup at night to maintain my flat stomach each morning…The raw milk was literally digesting my food for me..
A really fascinating video. Some facts are shocking like loosing 40% of micro biome diversity only after 10 days of McDonalds diet. One of the most interesting videos on microbiome I ever saw on youtube. Gonna be looking for Dr Spector’s book.
I am trying to find and listen to everything Dr Spector has put on RUclips. The first of his videos that I stumbled on made me go straight to Amazon to get his book, I now cannot wait for it to arrive. Brilliantly presented and explained. Thank you so much.
I'm not even sure that my gut recognises McDonalds as food. That's the sense I get. Satisfying only for the few seconds it's in your mouth and then you're somehow full and hungry an hour later.
Mediterranean diets differ depending on the country. From Southern Spain, France & Greece, to Turkey & N. Africa. Many Mediterranean cuisines have a lot of meat too..
What is the influence, if any, of female hormones on the microbiome? Thinking about the many women who suddenly start putting on weight after menopause having been slim until then, and not changing their diet.
This is something im observing as well. Im losing weight n my 60s by taking Kelp + Apple Cider Vinegar and probiotics everyday . It cld be thyroid or oral oestrogen that is involved n this weight increase?
Falling oestrogen levels cause fat to be redistributed to the abdomen causing a thickening waistline but most studies show that weight gain at menopause is due to becoming more sedentary, allowing muscle mass to decrease which then causes a fall in metabolic rate. You either need to build up muscle with resistance training or eat less, particularly carbs and sugar.
I'd wonder if that McDonald's experiment would have the same results with eating only a boiled chicken breast with brown rice and a potato for 10 days (i.e. one could then hypothesize whether the gut microbe diversity reduction is due to a lack of diversity in the fiber being consumed rather than on the degree to which the food is processed, cooking method, etc.).
The interesting thing about removing sugar from your diet for a couple of weeks and then eating a mcdonald's burger (chicken in my case)...all you can taste is sugar! And I was still using some artificial sweeteners.
I think all doctors agree that processed food is bad, so that's a good start. Next would be removing all added sugars, and at least some people should try to go without grains.
Correlation is not causation. There are so many theories about obesity and since it is such a recent phenomenon and is not well understood but I am not convinced by this theory on micro biome. Why did this micro biome effect only start in the 1970s ? All he is really saying is that there may be an impact of the micro biome on how many calories are metabolised when they are controlled because in the end it’s physics not biology- it’s energy balance. There is no such thing as a fat busting microbe.
Great info. To the creator of this video: please use a lapel mic or at the very least a directional “shotgun” mic when recording interviews. Reduces all that echo.
I don't eat meat idont eat cheese I live on veggies for just about fifty I am now coming up to my 79 birthday I walk long walks every day with my dog some times twice ina day.
I liked the idea of this so I spent 3 months increasing my microbiome upto 30 different plants, seeds and nuts. So that was probably an addition of 20 extra varieties. Result was 7lbs INCREASE in weight!
Well you could give keto a try. It's not for everyone (but works great for me). Basically cut out carbohydrates as much as you can (up to 20g a day is OK). You still need to eat of course, eat as much as you want of fish, meat, cream, eggs, cheese, any seafood and mushrooms but no sugar and no starch. It will take a month for your body to switch to being a fat burner. You will lose weight, never be hungry, stop snoring and end tooth decay but only if you can stick to very low carbs (try it for a couple of months, then decide if it's right for you). Good luck. Edit: no potatoes, no rice, no orange juice etc since the first two are starch and the third has fructose i.e. a sugar.
Yeah unfortunately there's quite a few people that jumped on the probiotic foods bandwagon and found it actually made them worse. It could be related to the wrong combo of bacteria for your existing microbiome, or histamine intolerance, or FODMAPS issues. Etc. Certain probiotic foods are for everyone, and also the high amount of lactic acid can attack your tooth enamel and do weird things to cellular metabolism
@@robertwhite2449 I eventually became so inflammed with agonising debilitating joint pain. I stopped all plants in any form and joint pain has eventually gone and I'm off meds.
I would love to know how and where I could find someone to measure my Microbiome. I am only 5'1" and find it very difficult to lose weight. I have no thyroid having had a complete thyroid removal 15 years ago and now I find it virtually impossible to lose weight. I have been told that the thyroid significantly changes the metabolism is this true. Would be very grateful for any information and advice on how I improve my diet to reintroduce the microbes to help me with this. I drink Kombucha, make my own, and eat various other health probiotic additives to my diet for example probiotic yogurt. Where am I going wrong.
Dr Spector thank you for this informative video. Do you think that how we eat our meals(fast, or slow) is an important factor to our stomach microbial health? Have there been studies done on eating slower, and our overall health?
By chewing your food more, you aid the digesting of the food but you also get full faster so you'll automatically eat less - provided you stop eating when you're full, of course☺
I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be easier to just cut out processed food, rather then invest millions in developing ‘microbiome capsules’ we can swallow to get thin. Though presumably it will make some people very wealthy.
This was superb. But as olive oil is 14% saturated fat and consuming processed oils in general are pro inflammatory, can we not get the benefit from just eating olives? Same as eating red grapes and skipping the wine? Surely! Olive oil is not essential.
Yes it’s a shame he hasn’t seen the work of plant based doctors. Olive oil is processed and calorie dense. It’s not healthy. Eat the olives instead. Also his mention at the end about dairy being healthy. I was slightly horrified. No it’s not for human consumption.
@@sugarplumk2381 I think we over think this stuff sometimes. Humans were fine until refined carbs and sugar. About any whole food is gonna work, and your body will deal with it. Entire cultures sustained off dairy. Mongols about took over the world living on it.
@@sugarplumk2381 olive oil is (supposed to be) cold pressed, so in no way comparable to your canola oils, etc. But it is indeed best to eat any fat source "from source" instead of from a bottle. Dairy I'm on the fence about, fermented ones might be benign or healthy, but I think milk is bad, especially when it is homogenized / low fat, and basically just a sugary drink
The artificial sweeteners remark really interested me. I use a lot (aspartame, acesulfane potassium) and I've no problem with my weight (yet) although I have lost a huge amount since my divorce about 10 years back. I switched my diet from junk an comfort food (being miserable) to something more diverse but cheaper, with an emphasis on fibre intake (porridge, brown bread, etc.) but I can't usually manage the amount of fruit I would like because it's simply too expensive. Frozen veggies are the next best thing (price wise). I also don't shower as much as I used to or use harsh soaps. This change has seen a marked improvement in my physical health. (*I joke that I stink so no one comes near me any more, although the opposite is true because I keep the stinky bits clean and polished!) Too many variables to pin it to one thing but nonetheless there's something in this. I'd like to dump the aspartame if possible but it "feeds" my sweet tooth and the others just make me feel rancid.
Hey Marc, You might try switching to stevia. If it has added monkfruit, the taste is better. It is an adjustment, but far healthier than aspartame. A continuous blood glucose monitor might help you to identify whether sugar substitutes raise your insulin.
@@webaccess11 I don't care for the taste of rebsaudiosides, they have a nasty aftertaste and aspartame isn't unhealthy unless you listen to people with agendas who should know better like Mercola. Amino acids are perfectly natural and aspartame is just two bound together. I'll look out the Monkfruit though. I literally co-authored a book on this stuff and I've done a fair amount of research (reading of the literature) since then.
@@marcdraco2189 Thanks for sharing your view. I’ll look into it further. I have to say though that when we mess with nature, we invariably get it wrong. Thats not to be categorical, just cautious.
@@webaccess11 I agree, but the idea that nature doesn't mess with nature is rather quaint too (if completely wrong). Aspartame only got a bad name through Monsanto and the association with Agent Orange. It was created and discovered by complete accident by a chemist doing something else and (it's said, licking is finger). But with the canonical example, GMO, nature beat us by millennia. Even the humble sweet potato contains DNA fragments inserted by agrobacterium. If you're on Twitter, look up Drunk Phytologist, one of the few people left still studying this fascinating organism. A completely natural GMO machine!
So....a relative of mine had a total colostomy and formation of a stoma. She has no microbiome, yet she is the healthiest she has ever been! Explain that. Also the red meat -TMAO story is unproven. Vegetables generate as much TMAO as meat and fish generates 10-100 times more TMAO as meat, yet no study has associated fish eating with heart disease. Let's not forget Zoe promotes a plant based diet!
I suspect a big point to the meat debate is the quality. I have started this Autumn to slaughter our own lambs, have basically turned off my appetite for other meats. And the feeling eating the innards give is like stimulants.
What he doesn't tell people who go crazy from this information and jump mouth first aboard the express fiber bullet train, is why they will get immediate gut lockup, microbial overgrowth, and severe bloating & constipation.. lol. - All Aboard!!
I've had a high-fibre diet for years. No problem with constipation (which is associated with a LOW-fibre diet. But yes, gassy, as one might expect from having a lot of active bacteria in one's digestive system.
@@nigg2811 constipation is associated with low fat diet. Fiber has nothing to do with being regular, quite opposite - it creates too much poop to be disposed. Fat is the answer to constipation. Vegetables create all kind of bloating, indigestion and other problems. Meat&fat rule!
@@nigg2811 if you change your diet quickly, you will have some gut issues regardless of what you do, and suddenly adding a whole lot of fiber, especially without sufficient fat, will indeed cause constipation
I can can behind a lot of this. But when talking about ‘skinny’ and ‘obese’ I don’t think it can be narrowed down to just microbes alone. I know lots of skinny people who don’t have any diversity at all and live on chocolate and coffee etc, and I know some over weight people who eat a fair amount of varied foods but they just eat constantly and snack. Quantity and portions has to be considered also
I would love to know whether Tim follows the work of Dr Gundry in America. I have been following him but have to wade through American selling techniques as he sells supplements. Very similar research.
Tim Spector eats beans, has extensive nutritional science education and is a professor. Dr Gundry has been hugely discredited for spreading misinformation amd is an MD who has no background education in nutrition.
I am sorry but Dr Gundry is a quack.I am a medical professional..brit expat in states..and i am shocked by these doctors here selling supplements and pushing quack theories...like Dr Gundry and DR Oz..not science based and v unethical.
Again another fact that seems to support the blood type diets of D'Adamo. Indeed a lot of bacteria species have been shown to have preferences for some blood types. Which explains how some people are fine with meat intakes.
Meat consumption is less bad for some people. Which is not to say that it is good. Meat consumption promotes the species Bacteroides. Which causes inflammation.
@@shepardforce it is dependent on an individual's microbiome. Which is overwhelmingly determined by what a person eats on a regular basis. That's why vegans get less inflammation when they eat meat than a regular meat eater. Because the population density of the guilty bacterial species is low in a vegan. It's a positive feedback loop between food and bacteria.
Matt Bryan lol or not. Go say that to "Vegetable Police" who cured his gut problems with a carnivore diet. Without talking about the thousands people who don't expose their lives in RUclips but experience the same.
Sucralose as I recall is indigestible as are most sweeteners. The key is to get fresh produce to boost your good bacteria. This where simple sugars and even carbs can cause havoc if you allow too much through.
20 to 30 grams of fibre a day is recommended by Tim Spector in this video. I take 5g of psyllium husks per day because if I don't my stools are far too hard. That stuff can be dangerous if taken to excess so I won't make up any shortfall in fibre by consuming much more of it than I already do. But is that fibre helping to feed my microbiome (as far as I'm aware that fibre passes through undigested) ? I keep to a fairly strict keto diet so I don't get 20g of fibre a day, maybe 10g (most winter days I'll eat a couple of small Brussel Sprouts and a couple of small cherry tomatoes with my large breakfast steak, probably I'll eat a few pecan nuts through the rest of the day). Just the one meal a day unless I see my girl friend that day when we may get lunch and or dinner together. So two questions (i) bearing in mind that psyllium husks supposedly pass through undigested are they in any way helping to feed my microbiome and (ii) what other fibre sources should I consume that will not kick me out of ketosis i.e. keep me at less than 20g of carbohydrates a day ? Anybody like to help me here (I don't want to give up on keto, it has worked great for me for the last couple of years) ?
@@dogphlap6749 no proper exercise man. Lift any weights for musculoskeletal benefit? Not just walk. I have a friend he is about 40 kilos lighter than me walks every day. He just had a stent fitted a few months ago. Lack of muscle. Body composition is very important
@@Isaac5123 Perhaps. I'm half way through my 7th decade on this planet. I weigh between 65 and 67kg (106 lb) and have no aches and pains. Everything still functions so I'm happy enough with the genetics I was dealt. Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. I might just resume my daily 5km push bike rides again (probably not) that I stopped when we had so much rain here the enjoyment from that activity fell to zero.
HPV is viral, carried by men where it occasionally causes warts and penile cancer. Virgins (like nuns) never suffer from it and it's believed (though you'd have to check) that if you leave it until your early 20s before having unprotected sex, that the cervix will be sufficiently "hardened" to reduce or even eliminate the risk of a papiloma virus causing damage which leads to cancer. The younger you're exposed to the virus (and since several types can cause it) the more sexual partners you have, the greater your risk of developing the disease in later life. This is the tragedy of Jade Goody, bless her. Poor parenting and poverty led her down that path and we all know the horrific and undeserved result.
I wonder actually. But that would mean the animal product would have to be eaten in a raw form to take advantage of that bacteria no? I also wonder if anyone has studied the microbiome of animals as a way of seeing which are the healthiest animals to eat. Gosh I feel cruel writing that about which are the healthiest animals to eat.
Isn't it clear that a diet very high in fiber, (and resistant starch) a plant based diet would produce a diverse microbiome? So we should promote that kind of diet.
He did imply that a diversity of diet gives a diversity of microbiome. But one issue is to do with red meat, which can be harmful for some people. He didn't say 'Cut out all animal products and just eat plants'; although a high-fibre diet produces food for microbes in the colon.
Can't a meat eater who doesn't have the microbes that produce tmao, eventually produce it by simply eating meat and destroying the beneficial bacteria which prevent that from happening?
How about just changing the input, I am a very healthy very low carb guy, nearly all meat and eggs. What is your evidence for your claims regarding red meat being problematic?
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Young Spector son .. Daddy I'm feeling really ill eating McDonald's every day. Daddy Spector .. Stop complaining son, keep eating all that processed food in the name of science.
Sigh... It's a tragedy that plenty of people are not demonstrating control with their lives with plenty of great information like these at their fingertips!
Does anyone know how much fiber the average adult needs per day? I mean factual information not the stuff you google. And how do you make sure you get the fiber without eating things that spike my blood sugar as a type 2 diabetic? That's the hardest thing for me
Fiber is not essential, so you can live without it. However, just because you don't need it to survive, doesn't mean it is not benefitial. Most experts recommend getting around 25-30g of fibre. If you eat a whole food plant based diet, it's not difficult to get 70g of fibre. Some of our hunter gatherers consumed 100-150g of fibre. The average american gets 15g.
He didn't say polyphenols stop people becoming overweight but that they are good for the bacteria in the gut. So they eat a lot of grapes but what else do they eat?
I was on Keto for about 3 yrs… eating lots of fibre. Bloating, constipation and eventually food sensitivities and leaky gut resulted. Trying carnivore to help heal the gut. Q: did he try carnivore diet?
@@chadmartinez459 Keto = fat&protein + lots of greens, unsurprisingly greens contain fibre. For some, to actually get to ketosis, greens and protein need to be reduced
if we would act emphatically with ourselves AND the animals, nature ... everything would be beautiful. stewards of the earth. as we are narcissistic children ... we turn earth into hell itself. feel! 💚
@@SMABEM - No humans alive today have massive, blind-pouch hindguts. Humans have no reason to practice coprophagy. (except possibly you). Human colon bacteria do not participate in digestion at all. The human digestive system is very nearly sterile from the stomach to the large intestine (colon). Any B12 that colon bacteria manufacture is not available to humans. The human digestive system has no enzyme, and no other mechanism for breaking down the very complex cellulose and hemicellulose molecules found in plant cell walls. Humans have no intrinsic source of vitamin B12 should they choose to eat a vegan diet. Armies of bacteria are active participants in an herbivore’s digestive processes, and then whole regiments of those armies are killed and digested by their plant eater hosts. Humans will never get that advantage. - When you look at it that way, herbivores are not truly vegan after all, despite eating only plants. ''Oh, and learn the difference between your mother and a sperm whale.''
Yeah, pretty much all these studies are observational studies comparing smoking, non-exercising, hamburger eaters to healthy fit plant eaters who have only been on the diet for 2-5 years. And still the relative risk increases found are miniscule.
To complicate things more, I think “red meat” as a blanket term is insufficient. The quality of red meat varies *immensely*. Commercial agriculture meats are riddled with antibiotics, preservatives, stress hormones and other garbage I don’t even know about. A proper randomized / controlled analysis would test the quality of meats and control for this as well.
Also, most red meat eaters also eat a lot of processed meats which could be a bigger issue as well.
40 yr raw milk drinker-at 70 years old now...
About 20 yes ago stopped drinking raw milk & 6 months later I’d developed a large stomach..I’m thin…I decided to get drink a quart of raw milk & within 15 minutes noticed a churning in my stomach which last 2 weeks accompanied by gas..in 2 weeks the churning & gas stopped & my stomach was totally flat like it always was…Only drink 1 cup at night to maintain my flat stomach each morning…The raw milk was literally digesting my food for me..
Wow
Tim Spector is a brilliant science communicator.Thank you for this fascinating informative video.
A really fascinating video. Some facts are shocking like loosing 40% of micro biome diversity only after 10 days of McDonalds diet. One of the most interesting videos on microbiome I ever saw on youtube. Gonna be looking for Dr Spector’s book.
10 days in UK it's more like 3 days in US when you thing what garbage we have for sale at Mc.
Is it the emulsifiers?
Highly process junk and soy burgers that are 89.9% soy not meat. Jeeezzz Real meat has millions of microbes LIVER
I wish I’d learnt my late grandmother’s fermented vegetables and sourdough bread processes and recipes. Store bought doesn’t taste the same.
It would be useful to have sensors to test your faeces when you go to the loo and relay the data to warn of problems and adapt behaviour.
Yes it could be an iPhone app. And you could share your results with everyone. Trade microbes with other people eventually. It all sounds wonderful!
Tim Spector. You are very clear with your information. Thank You. I also love your sense of humour. Your poor dear son!Hahaha.
Helga Bruin" nope, you must carry on.. We are both in on this together" haha
I am trying to find and listen to everything Dr Spector has put on RUclips. The first of his videos that I stumbled on made me go straight to Amazon to get his book, I now cannot wait for it to arrive. Brilliantly presented and explained. Thank you so much.
Which book please ? He has a few of them . Thanks
Father of the year. xD
Good talk. Straight to the point.
Ah, I love prof a bit more after watching each video featuring him! Clear and precise communicator!
Thank you Tim for all great information and videos you do. Helping humanity 💗
I'm not even sure that my gut recognises McDonalds as food. That's the sense I get. Satisfying only for the few seconds it's in your mouth and then you're somehow full and hungry an hour later.
That’s so funny. Full and hungry an hour later is precisely right.
Mediterranean diets differ depending on the country. From Southern Spain, France & Greece, to Turkey & N. Africa. Many Mediterranean cuisines have a lot of meat too..
Hong Kong eats the most meat per capita and live longest on average.
What is the influence, if any, of female hormones on the microbiome? Thinking about the many women who suddenly start putting on weight after menopause having been slim until then, and not changing their diet.
@suzanne- oral estrogen can increase LDLs too. Many pharmaceuticals are dangerous.
This is something im observing as well. Im losing weight n my 60s by taking Kelp + Apple Cider Vinegar and probiotics everyday . It cld be thyroid or oral oestrogen that is involved n this weight increase?
@Zed Love Each t their own!
Falling oestrogen levels cause fat to be redistributed to the abdomen causing a thickening waistline but most studies show that weight gain at menopause is due to becoming more sedentary, allowing muscle mass to decrease which then causes a fall in metabolic rate. You either need to build up muscle with resistance training or eat less, particularly carbs and sugar.
@@suewhartonartist7775 not my experience. I take HRT lift weights and run. Still struggle with the granny tummy.
I'd wonder if that McDonald's experiment would have the same results with eating only a boiled chicken breast with brown rice and a potato for 10 days (i.e. one could then hypothesize whether the gut microbe diversity reduction is due to a lack of diversity in the fiber being consumed rather than on the degree to which the food is processed, cooking method, etc.).
The interesting thing about removing sugar from your diet for a couple of weeks and then eating a mcdonald's burger (chicken in my case)...all you can taste is sugar! And I was still using some artificial sweeteners.
how much is meat on a mcdonalds burger ? 20% fried in veg oils , the rest is sugar and carbs (same thing)
The McDonald's burger doesn't even feed you
@@RealJonzuk The McDonald's burger is garbage , and its not what carnivores eat
@@zaluq I know no carnivore would be dumb enough to eat a McDonald's burger they're smarter but eating meat still is not desirable at least for me
@@RealJonzuk thats your choice, but take a look at the Harvard study this year om carnivore
I honestly don’t know who or what to believe anymore.. this dr says this, that dr says that.. I’m so fuckin confused.. we are all doomed..
How Not To Die book.
Yes I agree and feel the same. The more you look into health and longevity the more confused and frustrated you are
I think all doctors agree that processed food is bad, so that's a good start. Next would be removing all added sugars, and at least some people should try to go without grains.
This is great! Thank you for this video.
(My brain 🧠 was in pain from the beeping sound on the background of most of the video)
Very important research presented here. Keep up this valuable work.
Fantastic information. Thank you.
SO helpful and interesting. Thanks again Tim. 👍🏼
What would be nice is to get a straight answer
Fascinating. Thank you.
Correlation is not causation. There are so many theories about obesity and since it is such a recent phenomenon and is not well understood but I am not convinced by this theory on micro biome. Why did this micro biome effect only start in the 1970s ? All he is really saying is that there may be an impact of the micro biome on how many calories are metabolised when they are controlled because in the end it’s physics not biology- it’s energy balance. There is no such thing as a fat busting microbe.
Great info.
To the creator of this video: please use a lapel mic or at the very least a directional “shotgun” mic when recording interviews. Reduces all that echo.
Action Ecology Yes, and/or use a smaller room, and/or a room with soft furnishings ( carpet, curtains, table cloth).
Brilliant and fascinating, thank you keep it coming !
Absolutely fascinating 👍
I don't eat meat idont eat cheese I live on veggies for just about fifty I am now coming up to my 79 birthday I walk long walks every day with my dog some times twice ina day.
For just about fifty?
Boring fuck...lol
Happy days.
You are a really anti human physiology person. We are born to hunt and eat😂😂😂
My condolences.
Excellent
Good to see we have a similar ethical outlook 🤭
I liked the idea of this so I spent 3 months increasing my microbiome upto 30 different plants, seeds and nuts. So that was probably an addition of 20 extra varieties. Result was 7lbs INCREASE in weight!
Go carnivore Google Ken Berry proper human diet And Anthony chaffee
Deborah I found the same happened to me. Increase in variety of plants, red grapes, kefir, etc weight gain and huge digestive problems
Well you could give keto a try. It's not for everyone (but works great for me). Basically cut out carbohydrates as much as you can (up to 20g a day is OK). You still need to eat of course, eat as much as you want of fish, meat, cream, eggs, cheese, any seafood and mushrooms but no sugar and no starch. It will take a month for your body to switch to being a fat burner. You will lose weight, never be hungry, stop snoring and end tooth decay but only if you can stick to very low carbs (try it for a couple of months, then decide if it's right for you). Good luck.
Edit: no potatoes, no rice, no orange juice etc since the first two are starch and the third has fructose i.e. a sugar.
Yeah unfortunately there's quite a few people that jumped on the probiotic foods bandwagon and found it actually made them worse. It could be related to the wrong combo of bacteria for your existing microbiome, or histamine intolerance, or FODMAPS issues. Etc. Certain probiotic foods are for everyone, and also the high amount of lactic acid can attack your tooth enamel and do weird things to cellular metabolism
@@robertwhite2449 I eventually became so inflammed with agonising debilitating joint pain. I stopped all plants in any form and joint pain has eventually gone and I'm off meds.
I'm three days into the Zoe program. It is fascinating stuff.
I would love to know how and where I could find someone to measure my Microbiome. I am only 5'1" and find it very difficult to lose weight. I have no thyroid having had a complete thyroid removal 15 years ago and now I find it virtually impossible to lose weight. I have been told that the thyroid significantly changes the metabolism is this true. Would be very grateful for any information and advice on how I improve my diet to reintroduce the microbes to help me with this. I drink Kombucha, make my own, and eat various other health probiotic additives to my diet for example probiotic yogurt. Where am I going wrong.
Have you tried carnivore? Eat to satiated and you’ll lose weight.
Dr Spector thank you for this informative video. Do you think that how we eat our meals(fast, or slow) is an important factor to our stomach microbial health? Have there been studies done on eating slower, and our overall health?
I believe si. In the Mediterranean countries they take up to two hours for lunch enjoying every bite. Can't wait to get back there
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By chewing your food more, you aid the digesting of the food but you also get full faster so you'll automatically eat less - provided you stop eating when you're full, of course☺
I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be easier to just cut out processed food, rather then invest millions in developing ‘microbiome capsules’ we can swallow to get thin. Though presumably it will make some people very wealthy.
Thanks
So interesting, thank you👍☺️
Amazing video. Thank you. Cheers
This was superb. But as olive oil is 14% saturated fat and consuming processed oils in general are pro inflammatory, can we not get the benefit from just eating olives? Same as eating red grapes and skipping the wine? Surely!
Olive oil is not essential.
Yes it’s a shame he hasn’t seen the work of plant based doctors. Olive oil is processed and calorie dense. It’s not healthy. Eat the olives instead. Also his mention at the end about dairy being healthy. I was slightly horrified. No it’s not for human consumption.
What idiots are you listening to that convinced you saturated fat is bad keep researching you will get it figured out
@@sugarplumk2381 I think we over think this stuff sometimes. Humans were fine until refined carbs and sugar. About any whole food is gonna work, and your body will deal with it. Entire cultures sustained off dairy. Mongols about took over the world living on it.
@@sugarplumk2381 olive oil is (supposed to be) cold pressed, so in no way comparable to your canola oils, etc. But it is indeed best to eat any fat source "from source" instead of from a bottle.
Dairy I'm on the fence about, fermented ones might be benign or healthy, but I think milk is bad, especially when it is homogenized / low fat, and basically just a sugary drink
This area of great interest
Is monk fruit with erythritol considered an artificial sweetener?
The artificial sweeteners remark really interested me. I use a lot (aspartame, acesulfane potassium) and I've no problem with my weight (yet) although I have lost a huge amount since my divorce about 10 years back. I switched my diet from junk an comfort food (being miserable) to something more diverse but cheaper, with an emphasis on fibre intake (porridge, brown bread, etc.) but I can't usually manage the amount of fruit I would like because it's simply too expensive. Frozen veggies are the next best thing (price wise). I also don't shower as much as I used to or use harsh soaps. This change has seen a marked improvement in my physical health. (*I joke that I stink so no one comes near me any more, although the opposite is true because I keep the stinky bits clean and polished!) Too many variables to pin it to one thing but nonetheless there's something in this. I'd like to dump the aspartame if possible but it "feeds" my sweet tooth and the others just make me feel rancid.
So divorce makes one poor and stinky lol
Hey Marc, You might try switching to stevia. If it has added monkfruit, the taste is better. It is an adjustment, but far healthier than aspartame. A continuous blood glucose monitor might help you to identify whether sugar substitutes raise your insulin.
@@webaccess11 I don't care for the taste of rebsaudiosides, they have a nasty aftertaste and aspartame isn't unhealthy unless you listen to people with agendas who should know better like Mercola. Amino acids are perfectly natural and aspartame is just two bound together. I'll look out the Monkfruit though.
I literally co-authored a book on this stuff and I've done a fair amount of research (reading of the literature) since then.
@@marcdraco2189 Thanks for sharing your view. I’ll look into it further. I have to say though that when we mess with nature, we invariably get it wrong. Thats not to be categorical, just cautious.
@@webaccess11 I agree, but the idea that nature doesn't mess with nature is rather quaint too (if completely wrong). Aspartame only got a bad name through Monsanto and the association with Agent Orange. It was created and discovered by complete accident by a chemist doing something else and (it's said, licking is finger).
But with the canonical example, GMO, nature beat us by millennia. Even the humble sweet potato contains DNA fragments inserted by agrobacterium. If you're on Twitter, look up Drunk Phytologist, one of the few people left still studying this fascinating organism. A completely natural GMO machine!
The last sentence or two reminded me of the old adage about farmer's kids hardly ever suffering from hay fever .
So....a relative of mine had a total colostomy and formation of a stoma. She has no microbiome, yet she is the healthiest she has ever been! Explain that. Also the red meat -TMAO story is unproven. Vegetables generate as much TMAO as meat and fish generates 10-100 times more TMAO as meat, yet no study has associated fish eating with heart disease. Let's not forget Zoe promotes a plant based diet!
He’s an epidemiologist so take what he says with a pinch of salt when it comes to diet, especially meat eating.
I suspect a big point to the meat debate is the quality. I have started this Autumn to slaughter our own lambs, have basically turned off my appetite for other meats. And the feeling eating the innards give is like stimulants.
I only eat animal protein, fats. Never felt better, microbiome seems fine!
Anecdotes are not data.
Sir my son is 21 yrs...he is having epilepsy....and having 10 tab a day.... please help me. How i can help my child from this
Forward the video to 7.00 if you want to get to the most interesting part, dealing with foods which might be of greatest benefit to humans.
If your son feels ill he should go with his gut feeling.
I felt horrid by the declining of stopping the experiment 😨
Grow up pls
Because a random person on internet told me to?
Okay! 😃
I'm just kidding. I'm not gonna do that ^^
McDonalds bad for you who knew!? 🤣🤣🤣
Whatever happened to a balanced, colorful diet?
Not necessary. We didn't evolve on that. We evolved on hunting or scavenging plant eating animals
What he doesn't tell people who go crazy from this information and jump mouth first aboard the express fiber bullet train,
is why they will get immediate gut lockup, microbial overgrowth, and severe bloating & constipation.. lol. - All Aboard!!
I've had a high-fibre diet for years. No problem with constipation (which is associated with a LOW-fibre diet. But yes, gassy, as one might expect from having a lot of active bacteria in one's digestive system.
@@nigg2811 Constipation is associated with low fibre diet ? Where you get that information ?
@@nigg2811 constipation is associated with low fat diet. Fiber has nothing to do with being regular, quite opposite - it creates too much poop to be disposed. Fat is the answer to constipation.
Vegetables create all kind of bloating, indigestion and other problems.
Meat&fat rule!
Go slow with the increase of fiber give the gut biome time to adjust dah
@@nigg2811 if you change your diet quickly, you will have some gut issues regardless of what you do, and suddenly adding a whole lot of fiber, especially without sufficient fat, will indeed cause constipation
Is grape juice as good as eating red grapes?
How can I know if my microbiome is. Healthy? Doesn’t it change on a daily basis ?
Muriel Russell Absolutely not.
To put it simple: Juice is never good. We can only cope with the fructose if it comes with the fiber. And your microbiome needs the fiber, too.
Try fermented juice.
@@StarOnTheWater wine?
Your microbiome does change quickly, that’s why you need a wide variety of fruit and vegetables, along with legumes, nuts and seeds.
I can't imagine a life without meat. 😀
Fantastic
Thought this may reinforce what your thought path
What do you know about sweet leaf and inulin please?
I can can behind a lot of this. But when talking about ‘skinny’ and ‘obese’ I don’t think it can be narrowed down to just microbes alone. I know lots of skinny people who don’t have any diversity at all and live on chocolate and coffee etc, and I know some over weight people who eat a fair amount of varied foods but they just eat constantly and snack. Quantity and portions has to be considered also
Very interesting video
💞Love love love!💞
I would love to know whether Tim follows the work of Dr Gundry in America. I have been following him but have to wade through American selling techniques as he sells supplements. Very similar research.
Tim Spector eats beans, has extensive nutritional science education and is a professor. Dr Gundry has been hugely discredited for spreading misinformation amd is an MD who has no background education in nutrition.
I am sorry but Dr Gundry is a quack.I am a medical professional..brit expat in states..and i am shocked by these doctors here selling supplements and pushing quack theories...like Dr Gundry and DR Oz..not science based and v unethical.
Gundries is a idiot look at him he doesn't even look healthy 🙄 over weight
Again another fact that seems to support the blood type diets of D'Adamo. Indeed a lot of bacteria species have been shown to have preferences for some blood types. Which explains how some people are fine with meat intakes.
Meat consumption is less bad for some people. Which is not to say that it is good. Meat consumption promotes the species Bacteroides. Which causes inflammation.
Matt Bryan he just explained that the bacterial indirect inflammation is dependent on the person...
@@shepardforce it is dependent on an individual's microbiome. Which is overwhelmingly determined by what a person eats on a regular basis. That's why vegans get less inflammation when they eat meat than a regular meat eater. Because the population density of the guilty bacterial species is low in a vegan. It's a positive feedback loop between food and bacteria.
Matt Bryan lol or not. Go say that to "Vegetable Police" who cured his gut problems with a carnivore diet. Without talking about the thousands people who don't expose their lives in RUclips but experience the same.
@@shepardforce the carnivorous diet is BS and is a short trip to bowel cancer.
All i do is drink red wine, green tea, fruit and veg smoothies. And olive oil on everything. My guts are super
They have done this with humans and it doesn’t work.
Also it’s chicken and egg. Does being obese cause the poor micro biome?
What’s your opinion on eggs?
The set-up of RUclips videos now does not show date!
What effect does Sucralose have on the gut health and how much consumption of sucralose actually harm you ?
Sucralose as I recall is indigestible as are most sweeteners. The key is to get fresh produce to boost your good bacteria. This where simple sugars and even carbs can cause havoc if you allow too much through.
20 to 30 grams of fibre a day is recommended by Tim Spector in this video. I take 5g of psyllium husks per day because if I don't my stools are far too hard. That stuff can be dangerous if taken to excess so I won't make up any shortfall in fibre by consuming much more of it than I already do. But is that fibre helping to feed my microbiome (as far as I'm aware that fibre passes through undigested) ? I keep to a fairly strict keto diet so I don't get 20g of fibre a day, maybe 10g (most winter days I'll eat a couple of small Brussel Sprouts and a couple of small cherry tomatoes with my large breakfast steak, probably I'll eat a few pecan nuts through the rest of the day). Just the one meal a day unless I see my girl friend that day when we may get lunch and or dinner together.
So two questions (i) bearing in mind that psyllium husks supposedly pass through undigested are they in any way helping to feed my microbiome and (ii) what other fibre sources should I consume that will not kick me out of ketosis i.e. keep me at less than 20g of carbohydrates a day ? Anybody like to help me here (I don't want to give up on keto, it has worked great for me for the last couple of years) ?
I understand what you are saying. One thing are you physically able to exercise?
@@Isaac5123 I walk the dog 2km (1.25 miles) once a day. Other than that I'm as physically active as most people i.e. not very.
@@dogphlap6749 no proper exercise man. Lift any weights for musculoskeletal benefit? Not just walk. I have a friend he is about 40 kilos lighter than me walks every day. He just had a stent fitted a few months ago. Lack of muscle. Body composition is very important
@@Isaac5123 Perhaps. I'm half way through my 7th decade on this planet. I weigh between 65 and 67kg (106 lb) and have no aches and pains. Everything still functions so I'm happy enough with the genetics I was dealt. Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. I might just resume my daily 5km push bike rides again (probably not) that I stopped when we had so much rain here the enjoyment from that activity fell to zero.
@@dogphlap6749 I absolutely agree. Well done Sir
Can you look into the vaginal biome and persistent hpv/cervical cancer pls?
HPV is viral, carried by men where it occasionally causes warts and penile cancer. Virgins (like nuns) never suffer from it and it's believed (though you'd have to check) that if you leave it until your early 20s before having unprotected sex, that the cervix will be sufficiently "hardened" to reduce or even eliminate the risk of a papiloma virus causing damage which leads to cancer.
The younger you're exposed to the virus (and since several types can cause it) the more sexual partners you have, the greater your risk of developing the disease in later life.
This is the tragedy of Jade Goody, bless her. Poor parenting and poverty led her down that path and we all know the horrific and undeserved result.
Jade Goody was not brought up in poverty at all.
Is there any science about animals products producing any good bacteria and butyrate?
I wonder actually. But that would mean the animal product would have to be eaten in a raw form to take advantage of that bacteria no? I also wonder if anyone has studied the microbiome of animals as a way of seeing which are the healthiest animals to eat. Gosh I feel cruel writing that about which are the healthiest animals to eat.
Isn't it clear that a diet very high in fiber, (and resistant starch) a plant based diet would produce a diverse microbiome? So we should promote that kind of diet.
No, it's clear that vegan and vegetarian diets are harmful to physical & mental health
He did imply that a diversity of diet gives a diversity of microbiome. But one issue is to do with red meat, which can be harmful for some people. He didn't say 'Cut out all animal products and just eat plants'; although a high-fibre diet produces food for microbes in the colon.
@@nigg2811 yeah, well if he was being honest he would say that. The best diet is a whole foods plant based diet.
@@SMABEM The most compassionate diet is a WFPB one.
@@nigg2811 and it is also: The healthiest, least resource intensive, better for the environment, diet of all.
You can almost hear the low carb/ carnivore crowd leave the room
I've caught obesity from my partner only red wine will save me. Must start kissing skinny blokes.
1:30 This is why aliens probe us. They're seeing how many of us that would want to eat them.
Can't a meat eater who doesn't have the microbes that produce tmao, eventually produce it by simply eating meat and destroying the beneficial bacteria which prevent that from happening?
How about just changing the input, I am a very healthy very low carb guy, nearly all meat and eggs. What is your evidence for your claims regarding red meat being problematic?
Los Subtítulos en diferentes idiomas los pueden acrivar cuándo colocan un video en RUclips, por favor pueden activar los Subtítulos en Español, para que las personas con habla hispana podamos cer sus videos?.... saludos gracias. Esperando de ustedes
No es tan fácil, los subtítulos en otro idioma requieren muchísimo trabajo. Por eso normalmente solo se encuentran los subtítulos automáticos en el idioma original, obviamente. Lo que puedes hacer es pedirle a un amigo/a que tenga cuenta de RUclips y que hable inglés, que te traduzca los subtítulos a español y le envíe la transcripción al autor del canal. Otra opción es que hagas clic en los tres puntitos debajo del título y selecciones 'abrir transcripción'. Copia el texto en el traductor de Google. La traducción va a ser horrible pero por lo menos te puedes hacer una idea.
Bad microbiome = fat. But surely the bottom line is bad diet = fat (something we always knew..?)
Super talk, does processed food include the plant based "meats" & quorn products as well? Thank you
If not it should do These process foods are pushing us towards a very unhealthy future
Yes.
No because they are plants
yes
@@pinkiepinkster8395 you are 100% wrong. Not everything relating to plants equates to unprocessed food.
Another Health Guru.
Hypothetical nonsense
Young Spector son .. Daddy I'm feeling really ill eating McDonald's every day.
Daddy Spector .. Stop complaining son, keep eating all that processed food in the name of science.
Sigh... It's a tragedy that plenty of people are not demonstrating control with their lives with plenty of great information like these at their fingertips!
best viewed at 2x speed
His son was hard up for money .. so his dad tried to kill him 👍 bravo .
How important is dosage? If you give too many of the fat munching microbes does this lead to dangerous weight loss?
Very interesting question.
Are not some red meats more unhealthy than others?
Did he experiment with the carnivore diet?
Does anyone know how much fiber the average adult needs per day? I mean factual information not the stuff you google. And how do you make sure you get the fiber without eating things that spike my blood sugar as a type 2 diabetic? That's the hardest thing for me
Fiber is not essential, so you can live without it. However, just because you don't need it to survive, doesn't mean it is not benefitial. Most experts recommend getting around 25-30g of fibre. If you eat a whole food plant based diet, it's not difficult to get 70g of fibre. Some of our hunter gatherers consumed 100-150g of fibre. The average american gets 15g.
This is controversial, weight gain is caused as we age mostly and our metabolism becomes too efficient
My parents both eat a lot of red grapes.. both have an overweight BMI
He didn't say polyphenols stop people becoming overweight but that they are good for the bacteria in the gut. So they eat a lot of grapes but what else do they eat?
Grapes are still sugars, and are stored as fats, so how do you reconcile that?
Been eating meat all my life an no problems here
I was on Keto for about 3 yrs… eating lots of fibre. Bloating, constipation and eventually food sensitivities and leaky gut resulted. Trying carnivore to help heal the gut.
Q: did he try carnivore diet?
How do you eat lots of fiber on keto? How much is lots? Was it from a varied source of whole foods?
@@chadmartinez459 chia, pumpkin, flax (seeds). Also cruciferous veggies, lattices, sauerkraut etc… (all low carb)
@@chadmartinez459 Keto = fat&protein + lots of greens, unsurprisingly greens contain fibre. For some, to actually get to ketosis, greens and protein need to be reduced
Can I get a healthy skinny donor?
Im eating red grapes rn.
if we would act emphatically with ourselves AND the animals, nature ...
everything would be beautiful. stewards of the earth.
as we are narcissistic children ...
we turn earth into hell itself.
feel! 💚
Eat a whole foods plant based diet. Good bacterial diversity, low BMI.
You have three stomachs!!?? Wow.
UJR78 He must be a cowman
@@UJR78 learn the difference between herbivores and ruminants.
@@SMABEM - No humans alive today have massive, blind-pouch hindguts.
Humans have no reason to practice coprophagy. (except possibly you).
Human colon bacteria do not participate in digestion at all. The human digestive system is
very nearly sterile from the stomach to the large intestine (colon). Any B12 that colon bacteria
manufacture is not available to humans.
The human digestive system has no enzyme, and no other mechanism for breaking down
the very complex cellulose and hemicellulose molecules found in plant cell walls.
Humans have no intrinsic source of vitamin B12 should they choose to eat a vegan diet.
Armies of bacteria are active participants in an herbivore’s digestive processes, and then whole
regiments of those armies are killed and digested by their plant eater hosts. Humans will
never get that advantage.
- When you look at it that way, herbivores are not truly vegan after all, despite eating only plants.
''Oh, and learn the difference between your mother and a sperm whale.''
@@UJR78 Hear, hear! The problem with vegans is they think they are better than everyone us.
Hey doc we evolved eating red meat…I eat red meat and feel fantastic…I’m 78 next week.
Create a billion dollar industry why don’t ya😂
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Cristin synella !!!????
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Meat eaters ? What study is based of exclusive carnivores and not mixed crap with meat ?
Study from Harvard saying all who took part in the carnivore diet improved health were the beef?
@@russrasmussen9514 I asked if the studies he referred to was clean carnivore , not crisco pellets on rodents or questionaires :)
Yeah, pretty much all these studies are observational studies comparing smoking, non-exercising, hamburger eaters to healthy fit plant eaters who have only been on the diet for 2-5 years. And still the relative risk increases found are miniscule.
I think according to Dr Bill Gates it is......