Unfortunately Obito slaps the only person to counter Kamui in a 1v1 without years of prep time was the fastest ninja in the entire manga. Obito also has very strong Katon no jutsu & incredible taijutsu. Lastly you have izanami/Izanagi straight up cheat codes that allow to warp reality.
@@treysavage4570 Obito loses badly. OM Obito has 0 feats. He barely beat Konan, losing an eye and a hand lmao. He beat 2 anbu fodder while again losing his arm lol. And lost terribly to Minato. Got saved only by Hashirama cells. Pain would annihilate his ass so bad it's not even funny. Obito has 0 ways of beating him.
Just came to say Kisame wasn’t relying on Samehada at least for reaction time. It’s clear as day that Kisame is the lead for their partnership and Samehada is more of a Hidan here who can just restore and amp Kisame’s already overwhelming chakra and stamina supply. It’s also Samehada who is amped for the early stages of the fight and not Kisame at least until his chest gets ripped open by Bee. You don’t say Samehada over Kisame in the video but I just don’t want to see people take that from what you did say because honestly it’s stupid, at best you can argue their relative in reaction speed but Samehada over Kisame is just not narratively implied. Biggest point tho, Fire Video as always bro at this point I’m convinced you and the rest of the Deadshot Trio just don’t miss !! 🔥🔥
I definitely disagree with the the notion that the edo tensei keep their illnesses in any way shape or form, their physical appearance is one thing but its never implied ever that they keep any of the drawbacks of ailments they had prior to death other than old age, but even in the case of the old age their just limited to their old age power BUT without the drawbacks of being old also holding them back as we see with Hiruzen who clearly isnt the way he was when fighting orochimaru. In fact Hiruzen, Itachi and Nagato are just 3 exceptionally perfect examples of Edo tensei that happen to be stronger than their living counterparts
@Virhtue that's the thing, saying it's not omnidirectional would be putting a limit on the yata mirror's ability to alter every one of its properties to match the oncoming attack.
Sasori disrespect is real lol, he has a lot of AoE attacks wich are HKO due to the poison, i dont think sasuke can avoid every single hit while closing the distance and killing sasori
@@j.a.hernandez9742yeah Chiyo downplay was real here. Chiyo had knowledge, was boxing with several insane ninja back in the day, and it was a 2v1 (incredible advantage) that ended in Sasori throwing. Chiyo is like, just below a Kage level, very very high Jounin. Sasuke with Chiyo would win easily, but without it‘s more a toss-up IMO. Just logically, Sasuke extreme diffed Sasori‘s rival - but he had the elemental advantage there. He doesn‘t here, so it‘s more like 45-55 for Sasuke.
@@boshman11 Chiyo if we’re being entirely honest is Kage level. Not only did she intercept and block attacks from the iron sand shower w her chakra shields, but did so when they had “greatly increased” speed according to the databooks, meaning she blocked attacks faster than Rasas sand, a Kage. Not even bringing up that she survived multiple battles with Hanzo, Mifune barely survived one. (Hell Hanzo even forgot who Mifune was but he instantly recognized chiyo on sight as an Edo Tensei) Then her chikamatsu 10 puppets took on Sasori’s 100 puppets at a 10 to 1 disadvantage and still destroyed dozens of them. The 100 puppets can destroy an entire country, w a similar statement being used to hype up OROCHIMARU, a Kage level Shinobi. Like compare this to Asuma who’s just below base Kakashi a very high level elite Jonin, Asuma was being worked by Hidan. Chiyo would run laps around Hidan n dog walk him.
@@hobbyhorse5848 Damn, those are many good points. I especially think the Hanzo argument is crazy strong, as he was extremely potent and would have beaten most Akatsuki members in his prime. I didn‘t want to highball her in my example because it would be sufficient to be generous and rank her a bit less highly than i personally would just so it doesn‘t seem an absurd argument. Hebi Sasuke is not yet Kage level, after all.
@@boshman11 Imo Hebi Sasuke is Kage level, but it’s unknown exactly how he compares to the Gokage a few reasons. He did beat Deidara who beat Gaara, but Deidara had to cheese the fight to win + had Gaara wanted to kill Deidara, he would’ve lost his head instead of just an arm. BOS Sasuke was also compared to Kakuzu by Naruto and Sasuke being around or maybe even above that level was pushed by the narrative pretty heavily (before he even absorbed Orochimaru). Like rlly Sasuke vs Sasori depends entirely on how much you read into Gaara’s feats at the Kage summit. Because Sasori clearly is above or relative to that version of Gaara if Rasa of all people was equal in speed & power to early war arc Gaara (ppl clown on Rasa, but the 4th databook directly says that he had a very real fight w /Gaara, Gaara even grew stronger from defeating him). But either way Hebi Sasuke said p explicitly that he underestimated Deidara that an Akatsuki member was far stronger than he thought he would be, so on no planet does he “slam” Sasori
True, maybe I’ll do a video because most people think Pain gets bullied but that’s probably not the case, Obito is much closer to Itachi and Pain, than what people like to think
All of this made me randomly wonder..what was stopping Obito from simply sneaking up on Naruto and B, and sucking them into the kamui dimension? We even see Obito sneak up on Naruto as he was sleeping.
Something I’ve always been confused about, is Minato supposed to be equal to KCM2 in his alive state or only whilst reanimated with the 9 tails accessible
Deidara vs Sakura and Chiyo: Washout, neither one can handle a long range opponent. Sasori vs Sasuke: Sasukes gonna get overwhelmed by sheer numbers at the 100 puppets jutsu stage of the fight. Hidan vs Naruto and Kakashi: I feel like Kakashi would be able to outsmart Hidan assuming Shikamaru shares his intel. Kakuzu vs Shikamaru: Not even close Konan vs Naruto: Naruto had no way of countering Konan, oil is the only known way of stopping her. Pain vs Obito: At the point Konan fought Obito, he was much weaker than in the war ark. But, Obito should know how Pains jutsu works, could go either way. Itach vs Might Guy: Might Guy would have to resort to eighth gate. They would kill eachother. Kisame vs Sasuke: Once again, not even close. Sasukes only chance would be to get Kisame in a genjutsu and seeing as Kisames fought by Itachis side for years, I don't see that happening.
@@IIIISai *Makes statememt, provides nothing to back it up. Yeah, I don't know how you expect me to respond to that. You didnt say anything but your opinion.
@@zackc5973 I agree with most of what you say. Naruto vs Konan does seem like an unsteady matchup for our hero but I believe his raw rasenshuriken power parsed with his diversionary shadow clone tactics should compensate Naruto very well. Konan is good but Naruto wouldn't lose
I'm gonna keep it real here i feel like Konan has a chance against SM Naruto just for that fact that she went against a fighter that had a Mangeyko Sharingan and Iznagi if it wasn't for the iznagi tobi/obito would have been dead. Konan Gets Battle IQ by the way.
Good video Man, but Shikamaru almost got killed by raiton heart, i can't see Shikamaru doing anything to Kakuzu without insane amount of Intel and prep-time.
@@ExoticZah The problem with Kakuzu is that we never see kakuzu fusing with all his hearts in character, maybe he is stronger then for example Deidara, Konan or sasori, but we never see it. Kakuzu based on what we see is stronger only than Hidan, that's sad but it is what it is. But Shikamaru beating Kakuzu is a little bit too much for me xD do yi see Shikamaru beating Kakashi from this arc even without his Mangekyo?
@@UberRoot3294 Yeah I know we don’t see Kakuzu fuse with his hearts and go all out but even with him not going all out. He’s easily above every Leaf Jonin. He scales above Kakashi, Kakashi is the strongest leaf Jonin. . If Shikamaru scales above Kakuzu then there would be no need for Naruto to arrive because Kakashi is easily above Hidan. The dude who made this video is a bit bias towards certain characters or they watched Naruto through reels.
Loving the video so far, I just wanna leave a quick point before I forget though. When Sakura was blitzed by Sasuke wasn’t she poisoned by the Ninetails? Also, that Naruto was also very fatigued. I don’t think this feet is good enough to make Sasuke a blitz level above Sasori, those Sasuke is most definitely faster.
Then what about Yamato? Sure you can argue he had to hold back but surely he would have been informed about Sasuke under going training from Orochimaru, a legendary sannin and wanted criminal.
@@remington_acr1651 I don’t think he did hold back. Sasuke just straight up blitzed him. However, Yamato doesn’t really scale anywhere though. So I don’t think you can make a connection between him and Sasori.
@@___________0Z0Xyamamoto was kakashis replacement as the leader for team 7 on that mission implying superiority so base sasuke still casually perception blitzes everyone there. thats another thing that should be considered is that he has access to sharingan and 2 stages of the curse mark to amp his speed so hes actually multiple full speed tiers above that feat, during which he wasnt even really taking the fight seriously
@@AidenB1010true, but sasuke did suppress the nine tails. Four tails Naruto would've been a serious threat to him. That would've been a really fun fight. Someone make a video about that, please.
Amazing video bro!! Finally someone who represents Itachi well against 7 gates Gai!! 8 gates Gai would overwhelm him but 7 gates isn't enough to take out Itachi.
W vid! I have a question, could Kisame really absorb kirin? I thought the point of the technique was that it was natural lightning. Thanks in advance for your answer, and I love your videos man!
no he couldn't absorb it he would become shark meet , sasuke would use his left over chunks on his sword as fish hooks, kisame thrives off Chakra cloaks and more wreckless fighters sasuke is the opposite
Kakuzu didn’t die to Rasenshuriken he died overtime from the chidori, the rasenshuriken just destroyed his chakra network, so Hidan wouldn’t die he just wouldn’t be able to use chakra at all after getting hit rendering him unable to fight.
I think it does kind of suck that Orange Mask Obito doesn't really have that many feats. I stand by that Izanagi is bullshit and Konan should have won that fight, but I really like Konan and feel like a lot of really unique skills and abilities got shafted by poor writing choices, at the very least killing her there was unnecessary and having her survive to be a pillar in the War Arc would have been really cool and prevent the waisted potential she had. But, yeah, masked obito is pretty strong, I want to say that Obito COULD lose, but that it's like a 60% to 40% winrate basically. Since a big part of Pain's strength is the fact no one knew he was actually Nagato, Obito does know that fact so he'd probably be able to get to Nagato and finish the fight rather quickly. BUT nagato does have a lot of "Instant Death" opportunities and if Konan was able to force obito to use Izanagi, I don't see why Pain couldn't do it more easily.
When Sasori and Chiyo clash their three puppets, it is a blur from Sakura's perspective, which she notes is amazing. Sasori can control puppets even faster than that since he is still using his hands which adds input lag. Sakura needed to initially adapt to Sasori's movements via his finger movements which is, again, not actually his full speed. Itachi and Kisame were also shown by the point of Sha no Sho, and it seems unlikely Sasuke is near them, either. That it is a middle tier is nebulous, as Sasori could also just be on the upper end of that tier at full power. Sasuke might not have an opening to hit the Sandaime Kazekage puppet since Sasori only brought it close to Sakura after she was nicked, and Sasuke has no antidote. As for his poison resistance, as noted in Akatsuki Hiden, Sasori is constantly updating his poison make-up to keep up its lethality, so it is not exactly clear if Orochimaru's baseline poison resistance would be enough. Shinki's Magnet Release uses Lightning Release to amplify it as noted by Sarada and Boruto (regular Magnet Release does not even include Lightning Release at all, as Rasa, another Maget Release user, lacks the nature altogether). This is actually visible as blue strings which is commented on. Sandaime Kazekage does not have this, so it is unclear if it even shares that weakness. Even if Sandaime Kazekage did have this weakness, neither Mitsuki nor Boruto's Lightning Release was actually able to break through it, with Shinki faking weakness against the former to land a strike, which would be lethal if it was Sasuke. It took a Kote Shiden to actually break it, and the upper limits of Sandaime Kazekage's sand's durability therein is rather unknown. Not even Sakura's punches actually broke up the iron sand constructs, only moved them. Considering Sasori has other unseen human puppets, and that his own puppet body is even stronger than Sandaime Kazekage, I would give Sasori the edge if he goes all out (as he was underestimating Chiyo and Sakura from the onset). Sakura was able to withstand the force of her own explosive tag detonating point-blank, and Chiyo has long-range puppets that were with a distraction able to catch Sasori. Her barriers from her puppets and her own arm were also able to block Sandaime Kazekage's iron sand, so they might also be able to shield against lower forms of explosive clay. Deidara does not have an unlimited amount of clay, and with barriers, healing, and twelve puppets, he might be forced to the ground before he can use C4. That Kisame suppression shown on-screen from a databook, not Akatsuki Hiden, though Akatsuki Hiden does suggest Itachi would be able to kill Kisame if it came to it. Kimimaro was at the point of almost not being able to move due to his illness and was eventually paralyzed, yet the Edo Tensei shows no such signs. Whilst it is true the Edo Tensei revives at the moment of death, it seems illnesses are automatically expunged, possibly as a part of the regeneration. Nagato was revived at exactly the moment of death, even showing his white hair from the overexertion of the Rinne Tensei, so it seems the Edo Tensei just regenerated the blindness (not the same as the Izanami blindness which just gives up the eye's light altogether). Out of universe censorship is not exactly a real explanation, though I will just say that they are shown to bleed for summoning, and Hanzō even has a poison gland, indicating organs are maintained when need be. 30% Itachi was not outpacing Kakashi during their clash as that was actually a Shadow Clone which Itachi was not able to see through, in which Kakashi purposefully let himself get tangled with Itachi so Naruto could blast them both. It is not clear if the Yata Mirror can really change its properties to reflect an air cannon, or if it is strong enough to do so (the Hirudora not appearing until after Sha no Sho). Whilst Guy in the war might be stronger, when he used the Hirudora against Madara he was greatly fatigued, and that was able to grab the Susanoo and send it flying. Hebi Sasuke was able to get in front of both Suigetsu and a partially transformed Jūgo and threatened to kill both of them, to which Suigetsu notes he very well could, essentially. A more evolved Taka Sasuke would be above them. Suigetsu's swing was able to die with Jūgo's partially transformed slice, and both of them could hold back attacks from A and Darui (somewhat, Suigetsu had to liquefy his arm to not get them wrenched off), and Obito just completely blocked it. The inherent strength of his body is also strong enough to impale someone by just running his arm through them. If Obito activates Kamui the rain would just fall through him until he chooses to actually attack, so it might not help Pain that much in the grand scheme. On an unrelated note, it does not prove that Pain figures it out, as Konan could have just told him, from which he could deduce the hypothetical countermeasure. Obito was able to slip through the ground when using Kamui, so the degree to which it affects him seems to be under his control. Tendō is also sometimes said to only use attractive and repulsive forces again to gravity, rather than gravity itself, a sort of press/blast wave which might also just phase through Obito. Alternatively, Obito could warp himself into Kamui before the ability affects him since he was able to warp in, warp Sasuke, and then warp out all before Dust Release could take effect.
saying the regeneration just targets an inherent sickness that effects the way the body functions but ignoring that nagato got revived without being able to walk when that was a physical injury that he could regenerate by absorbing chakra is fucking wild lmao, sicknesses dont just get regenerated
@@Virhtuehe didn’t tank shit bruh lol guy needed him to survive Plus, he is shooting an air bomb “AIR BOMB” underwater against a WATER BOMB! I would guess that the impact would be reduced, and if guy wanted him dead, he could’ve killed him instead of just punching him in the gut after he told him to not move Plus, guy never even attacked close range to anyone other other than jubidara while in 7th gate lol guy slaps tf outta kisame and itachi via 7th gate blitz
Couldnt disagree more about Sasori vs Sasuke. It wouldnt be a slam dunk either side but, at that point, I don't see Sasuke doing much when Sasori gets serious. Sasori never got 100% serious against Sakura and Chiyo. But even if he did. Them fighting Sasori is like Sasuke fighting Deidara. Sakura had a cure for Sasoris poison (which stumped the entire sand village medical corp) and Chiyo was the greatest puppet master in Naruto history. Sasuke had the sharingan and could defeat Hiruko and maybe 3rd Kazekage. But when the 1,000 puppets come out he's gonna get overwhelmed he can only fight off so many at once. And if he gets hit once its over.
sasuke wins dawg Idk what to tell u, blitz tier above him but also his sharingan just is a cheat code really, but the nuisance doesn't matter cuz hebi sasuke is a blitz tier above , and based off his encounter with deidara and tobi he would lunge at sasori right away
@@IIIISai You literally replied to both my comments saying "sasukes better, thats that" the best Sasuke would be able to do is defeat the 3rd Kazekage puppet and that's honestly being generous. 1) Sasori is a Kage level criminal, the 6th strongest in the Akatsuki, Deidara admitted Sasori was more dangerous than he is, and the only reason Sasuke defeated Deidara was a crippling elemental advantage and his sharingan. An elemental advantage, that they literally had to write in just to give Sasuke a chance. 2) one hit from Sasori, and Sasukes dead, he wouldnt have an antidote, he's not on good terms with the leaf at this point. And Kabuto with all his medical knowledge, is admittidly not as skilled as Tsunade in that field. 3) Sasuke could barely keep up with the dozen or so clay clones Deidara sent after him, you really think he could keep up with 100 puppets? Remember Sasori was holding back against Chiyo and Sakura and those puppets overwhelmed the 10 best puppets the sand village had.
@@zackc5973 Just playing devil's advocate but what if Sasuke's CM2 version granted him an immunity boost of sorts. I believe it was stated by Tsunade that Orochimaru might have boosted Sasuke's resistance to poison and seeing as Oro and Sasori go way back... well in any case it seems interesting to think about haha.
@@Chibuike16 That is interesting actually. Even with a poison immunity hes not beating Sasoris 100 puppets if hes being serious. The sharingan let him barely keep up with about a dozen clay dolls
The rest are more debatable but Obito dumpsters Pain literally cannot touch him and Kamui counters all of the Paths abilities whereas Obito can just remove individual paths from the fight or just find Nagato and get him Edit: Also the fact that the Sharingan can see Chakra would let Obito see where Nagato is and just Kamui there and deal with Nagato fight over
He can’t remove the paths, the pains neural pathways work across dimensions, as shown in Jiraiya’s toad mouth so the pains would get sucked in and would prevent obito from materializing for the entire fight or else they would hit him from the inside?!?
@@ihateveryone2no Guy no diffs itachi in 7th gate lmao. A hirudora from guy destroyed madaras perfect susanoo. Itachi doesn’t even have a perfect susano and he has pathetic chakra levels, guy speed blitz.
@@aleclegault5729 Hirudora is not omnidirectional and yata mirror can tank it. Itachi can react to a lightning attack só he can direct the mirror to the attack alright. I am not saying that he wins but its certainly not a stomp from any side. As i said, Naruto aint no DBZ, Just because A beats B, doesnt mean it beats C.
@@ihateveryone2 yata mirror only nullifies ninjutsu based attacks. Hirudora is pure physical energy. If madaras perfect susano couldn’t withstand hirudora ain’t no fucking way that itachis weak ass susanoo is surviving, stop meat riding Itachi, he’s way below 7th gate guy
Also saying itachi was lying is stupid and shows you are young and watch Naruto later, itachi was not originally a ally to the leaf this was later for shippuden
@@Virhtue it’s not baseless it’s actual facts bro I really like your channel and I watch every freaking video bro but don’t refuse your comment with a lame response as you did the last two and I’m not asking you to try and comment to everyone I know that’s impossible and unrealistic but come on be for real do your research Itachi was not meant to be a good guy until Shippuden
Itachi's yata mirror omni direction?? 🤣🤣. If it cab reflect all attack then why Itachi don't used in nagato fight against to counter chibaku tensi's gravity??? ... Guy slams Itachi... Itachi's susanoo get Obilarated by kirin a building level attack, and guy have island level attack to slam itachi.
@@Virhtue What about white snake attack? .. And where it stated omni directional?? And even though if it counters all attack mean it also produce anti gravity to counter the attracting force right so offensive attack is not need and help of other 2 Jinchuriki...
He didn't need it. That's why he didn't use it. He always uses proportional responses as to the needs of the situation. If he didn't use it, it's because he didn't need it.
Itachi is on the same level as Obito in physicals (not white mask) and loses to those hacks and stamina. Pain has better Chakra levels than either, but matches Obito in stamina, once again losing to hacks speed. Full Body Nagato is the real contender for the strongest until Obito has his white mask.
Remember kisame survived the hirudora cause guy wanted him too. Remember guy opens the 7th gate too end the fight not cause he didn’t think he’d lose Also guy only used the gate to end shit in his fights with kisame guy was literally beating him no diff
@@Virhtue why didn’t he just kill him when he moved his finger instead he punched him and brought him back for interrogation? Don’t be ridiculous man that is completely obvious. You blatantly dismiss this fact.
@@Virhtue he literally says it himself that there were too many sharks. He won’t be able to find the scroll. So he planned on obliterating the entire area that’s why he opened the second gate using afternoon tiger Once he did it, the fight was over guy could have slit his throat if he wanted him dead Remember, the attack was done underneath copious amount of water. He shot a freaking air bomb bro I would like to assume that its pressure was reduced, considering it was going up against a jutsu and natural bodies of water. wouldn’t that reduce the attack potency you could also see that was the case on why he survived because it wasn’t as strong as it could be?? but if that’s the case, still could’ve killed him after the attack was over, right explained that virtue
I agree with everything other than Itachi vs Guy. Itachi loses but it's not gonna be easy. Also, while I agree Konan would get smoked by Naruto I don't think saying "she's not all that" is appropriate, she's still very strong, a bit weaker than base Jirayia. It's just Sage Mode Naruto is on another level. Like he could probably take on a major country at this point and put up a decent fight. Any mid to small nation he destroys.
Naruto>>>>>>>>Hiddan If Shikamaru has intel on Kakuzu's quirks he can make a strategy to kill him, now if he doesn't he's dead there's no way he can win Sasori didn't go fully in his battle against Sakura and Chiyo and it's implied as well, I kinda think he's a better fight for Sasuke than Deidara, he would really give a headache and challenge to Sasuke with all his stages and puppets even if Sasuke would be superior to each of them individually, also you gotta remember he has a lot of human puppets with their jutsus that he didn't use against Sakura and Chiyo cuz he wanted to die, but either way at the end Sasuke would win at least with Kirin Deidara destroys Sakura and Chiyo with long distance explosives there's no chance at all for them It's a little debatable if Guy can beat Itachi in his 7th gate form, I think because of Guy's speed and power vs Itachi's sickness he could win, but also because of his jutsu and specially his intelligence he could definitely beat Guy, it's also a kind of endurance fight Sasuke and Kisame is also very interesting, Kisame scales higher than Hebi Sasuke but he has lightning release, tho Killer Bee never uses a lightning jutsu against Kisame so that means either he's not weak against it or Bee can only use lightning chakra with his weapons and doesn't know any lightning jutsu at all, if anything Kisame's clearly stronger than Sasuke but Kirin destroys him for sure Prep time Konan destroys SM Naruto, but if there's no prep time he should win but Konan's flying is a bothersome match Pain definitely loses to Obito but if it was edo tensei Nagato who is not only broken but also knows how Obito's jutsu kinda works, he can definitely win
How is Shikamaru beating Kakuzu? Not even a fan of Kakuzu but this sounds hella bias against him. Kakashi is stronger than Hidan. If Shikamaru was stronger than Kakuzu then they would have won the 4Vs2 long before Naruto arrived. Disingenuous. I’m going to go watch ThunderGod videos.
@@Virhtue”Kakuzu could probably overcome it” Bro it’s an absolute stomp in Kakuzu’s favor. Shikamaru does not have no speed advantage like you said. Kakuzu wins 10/10 times, no where near is that battle close just because he reacted to some of his movies. He needed to be saved each time and I highly doubt Kakuzu was going all out on him.
@@VirhtueIf Kakuzu was really dead set focused on killing Shikamaru then he would have died right with Asuma. Shikamaru is jonin lvl, Kakuzu is way above that. Team Asuma had trouble 4vs1 Hidan. Kakuzu sat back and let Hidan do a 1Vs4, he was never going all out. Only focused on his mission which is chasing a bag/capture tailed beast. Opposed to Hidan who just wants to kill for his religion. If you don’t have a bounty or isnt a tailed beast, he doesn’t care for you.
@@___________0Z0X it’s true tho😂sasori being a well known puppet poison user is not a counter it’s common knowledge, especially for people in sand village. No one says sasori countered Sakura. Her taijutsu didn’t work on his body and he still lost😂
@@Virhtue Naruto isn't smart enough to pull off a strategy to "kill" Hidan like Shikamaru was. It would be a war of attrition where one person can't die and all he needs to do to win is barely break the skin of his opponent. I'd give it to Sage Naruto with his ranged expanding RS. That could do enough damage to end the fight by just cutting him in half and making him unable to use a weapon. Also, I'm pretty sure Madara was a bloody mess after his encounter with Night Guy. The manga is absolutely way more graphic than the show.
I don't think it's black n white , suigetsu even if like hebi sasuke tier doesn't have the same hax, I don't see why sasukes genjutsu or Potential snake bite posion (never shown but he absorbed orochimaru), kirin is natural lightening so it can't be absorbed and lightening negs water, I think cm 2 sasuke would just be relative vs the cloaked bee that was rivaling kisame , or faster, basically what I'm saying is the beginning of the match clash I see sasuke doing what he did vs deidara and obito and go for the kill, the issue with these mus is people match up late game techniques, shark mode bubble kisame can possibly beat sasuke but sasuke wins before he gets to that level, sasukes main win con is speed and lightening, if i disagree that's fine
@@Virhtue because youre scaling makes no sense. In this vid you are saying kisame is stronger then hebi sasuke and in other vid you are saying orochimaru is stronger then kisame. If kisame is weaker then orochimaru then sasuke beats him
@@Virhtue and youre Argumentation was that samehada can Not absorb Orochimarus chakra, this is so wrong, pls explain to me why samehada wont take oros chakra but He chakra of hebi who got oros chakra. Samehada bekamen concious in the bee fight because it got verry much chakra and evolved, Prior to this it sucked everything away, doesnt mater which chakra, so the samehada who wont take every chakra is bees Version Not kisames
@@iliebalica4012 I never said he would I gave a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that Samehada likely will not absorb the chakra as we know a type of chakra he likes, it’s your burden to prove to me why this isn’t the most likely case
@@Virhtue because you can clearly See samehada evolve through the 8tails chakra and it never refuzed to take chakra while it is Controlled by kisame. Also it is youre burgen to proove kisame did Not react to bees lariat, proove me it was samehada
The problem with obito is that at least his orange mask version doesn't have powerful moves. The only thing he have is a perfect defense in form of kamui, and being almost always untouchable makes him become very strong and unbeatable most of the times. But i agree that in terms of full power he is not that strong
Thing is. The pain Naruto gought against was weakened. And I'm almost certain Itachi can spar h2h with Pain. Which means Sasuke should be able to keep up with and destroy paths of pain.
Pain vs Obito over the ideals of the Akatsuki would be such a dope fight!
That would’ve been awesome! I love their dynamic of mutual disrespect lol.
Unfortunately Obito slaps the only person to counter Kamui in a 1v1 without years of prep time was the fastest ninja in the entire manga. Obito also has very strong Katon no jutsu & incredible taijutsu. Lastly you have izanami/Izanagi straight up cheat codes that allow to warp reality.
@@treysavage4570 Obito loses badly. OM Obito has 0 feats. He barely beat Konan, losing an eye and a hand lmao. He beat 2 anbu fodder while again losing his arm lol. And lost terribly to Minato. Got saved only by Hashirama cells. Pain would annihilate his ass so bad it's not even funny. Obito has 0 ways of beating him.
Not what I was expecting excited to watch after work
Orochimaru sama !!! How are all the experiments going ?
Just came to say Kisame wasn’t relying on Samehada at least for reaction time. It’s clear as day that Kisame is the lead for their partnership and Samehada is more of a Hidan here who can just restore and amp Kisame’s already overwhelming chakra and stamina supply. It’s also Samehada who is amped for the early stages of the fight and not Kisame at least until his chest gets ripped open by Bee. You don’t say Samehada over Kisame in the video but I just don’t want to see people take that from what you did say because honestly it’s stupid, at best you can argue their relative in reaction speed but Samehada over Kisame is just not narratively implied.
Biggest point tho, Fire Video as always bro at this point I’m convinced you and the rest of the Deadshot Trio just don’t miss !! 🔥🔥
I could see where your coming from for sure, Appreciate you man
real interesting what if never seen this scenario done before 👍🏽
couldn’t wait for this one 🔥
edit: love the inclusion of duel of the fates sw soundtrack in the background 💯
Thank you, I definitely thought it fit
I definitely disagree with the the notion that the edo tensei keep their illnesses in any way shape or form, their physical appearance is one thing but its never implied ever that they keep any of the drawbacks of ailments they had prior to death other than old age, but even in the case of the old age their just limited to their old age power BUT without the drawbacks of being old also holding them back as we see with Hiruzen who clearly isnt the way he was when fighting orochimaru. In fact Hiruzen, Itachi and Nagato are just 3 exceptionally perfect examples of Edo tensei that happen to be stronger than their living counterparts
🔥 Vid
17:55 the mirror is not Omni-directional but yeah still wouldn’t work against it assuming itachi don’t get blitz
You will not be able to prove it’s mono directional
@Virhtue that's the thing, saying it's not omnidirectional would be putting a limit on the yata mirror's ability to alter every one of its properties to match the oncoming attack.
This is such a fantastic and original concept, which is hard to do with so many content creators. Hats off to you!!
Glad you enjoyed it! I really do try, or atleast try to bring something new to the table❤️
Sasori disrespect is real lol, he has a lot of AoE attacks wich are HKO due to the poison, i dont think sasuke can avoid every single hit while closing the distance and killing sasori
Also, it's not like Sakura was fighting alone, she was literally being controlled as a human puppet by Chiyo.
@@j.a.hernandez9742yeah Chiyo downplay was real here.
Chiyo had knowledge, was boxing with several insane ninja back in the day, and it was a 2v1 (incredible advantage) that ended in Sasori throwing. Chiyo is like, just below a Kage level, very very high Jounin.
Sasuke with Chiyo would win easily, but without it‘s more a toss-up IMO. Just logically, Sasuke extreme diffed Sasori‘s rival - but he had the elemental advantage there. He doesn‘t here, so it‘s more like 45-55 for Sasuke.
@@boshman11 Chiyo if we’re being entirely honest is Kage level. Not only did she intercept and block attacks from the iron sand shower w her chakra shields, but did so when they had “greatly increased” speed according to the databooks, meaning she blocked attacks faster than Rasas sand, a Kage. Not even bringing up that she survived multiple battles with Hanzo, Mifune barely survived one. (Hell Hanzo even forgot who Mifune was but he instantly recognized chiyo on sight as an Edo Tensei)
Then her chikamatsu 10 puppets took on Sasori’s 100 puppets at a 10 to 1 disadvantage and still destroyed dozens of them. The 100 puppets can destroy an entire country, w a similar statement being used to hype up OROCHIMARU, a Kage level Shinobi. Like compare this to Asuma who’s just below base Kakashi a very high level elite Jonin, Asuma was being worked by Hidan. Chiyo would run laps around Hidan n dog walk him.
@@hobbyhorse5848 Damn, those are many good points. I especially think the Hanzo argument is crazy strong, as he was extremely potent and would have beaten most Akatsuki members in his prime.
I didn‘t want to highball her in my example because it would be sufficient to be generous and rank her a bit less highly than i personally would just so it doesn‘t seem an absurd argument. Hebi Sasuke is not yet Kage level, after all.
@@boshman11 Imo Hebi Sasuke is Kage level, but it’s unknown exactly how he compares to the Gokage a few reasons. He did beat Deidara who beat Gaara, but Deidara had to cheese the fight to win + had Gaara wanted to kill Deidara, he would’ve lost his head instead of just an arm. BOS Sasuke was also compared to Kakuzu by Naruto and Sasuke being around or maybe even above that level was pushed by the narrative pretty heavily (before he even absorbed Orochimaru).
Like rlly Sasuke vs Sasori depends entirely on how much you read into Gaara’s feats at the Kage summit. Because Sasori clearly is above or relative to that version of Gaara if Rasa of all people was equal in speed & power to early war arc Gaara (ppl clown on Rasa, but the 4th databook directly says that he had a very real fight w /Gaara, Gaara even grew stronger from defeating him). But either way Hebi Sasuke said p explicitly that he underestimated Deidara that an Akatsuki member was far stronger than he thought he would be, so on no planet does he “slam” Sasori
I mean if Obito has knowledge, he wouldn't even need to fight the 6 paths. But without it, his fighting style gets hard countered by Pain.
True, maybe I’ll do a video because most people think Pain gets bullied but that’s probably not the case, Obito is much closer to Itachi and Pain, than what people like to think
Aang vs Akatsuki could be a fun topic. I don't know why, but Avatar vs anime stuff has been on my mind lately. Like Zuko vs JJK, and such.
This is 🔥 just subscribed
Appreciate that goat❤️
All of this made me randomly wonder..what was stopping Obito from simply sneaking up on Naruto and B, and sucking them into the kamui dimension? We even see Obito sneak up on Naruto as he was sleeping.
Never even thought bout this cool video idea
W vid 🔥
you did make them sound alooot weaker tho 🥲
Something I’ve always been confused about, is Minato supposed to be equal to KCM2 in his alive state or only whilst reanimated with the 9 tails accessible
Deidara vs Sakura and Chiyo: Washout, neither one can handle a long range opponent.
Sasori vs Sasuke: Sasukes gonna get overwhelmed by sheer numbers at the 100 puppets jutsu stage of the fight.
Hidan vs Naruto and Kakashi: I feel like Kakashi would be able to outsmart Hidan assuming Shikamaru shares his intel.
Kakuzu vs Shikamaru: Not even close
Konan vs Naruto: Naruto had no way of countering Konan, oil is the only known way of stopping her.
Pain vs Obito: At the point Konan fought Obito, he was much weaker than in the war ark. But, Obito should know how Pains jutsu works, could go either way.
Itach vs Might Guy: Might Guy would have to resort to eighth gate. They would kill eachother.
Kisame vs Sasuke: Once again, not even close. Sasukes only chance would be to get Kisame in a genjutsu and seeing as Kisames fought by Itachis side for years, I don't see that happening.
Sasuke will not get overwhelmed by sasori Because Sasuke faced 1000 shadow clones before
@@joeclark2590 Puppets and shadow clones arent the same. Puppets dont get stopped by a kunai.
sasuke not getting overwhelmed lmaooo
@@IIIISai *Makes statememt, provides nothing to back it up. Yeah, I don't know how you expect me to respond to that. You didnt say anything but your opinion.
@@zackc5973 I agree with most of what you say. Naruto vs Konan does seem like an unsteady matchup for our hero but I believe his raw rasenshuriken power parsed with his diversionary shadow clone tactics should compensate Naruto very well. Konan is good but Naruto wouldn't lose
I'm gonna keep it real here i feel like Konan has a chance against SM Naruto just for that fact that she went against a fighter that had a Mangeyko Sharingan and Iznagi if it wasn't for the iznagi tobi/obito would have been dead. Konan Gets Battle IQ by the way.
Good video Man, but Shikamaru almost got killed by raiton heart, i can't see Shikamaru doing anything to Kakuzu without insane amount of Intel and prep-time.
The Kakuzu downplay made me unsubscribe. Very disingenuous and bias towards Shikamaru for no reason.
@@ExoticZah The problem with Kakuzu is that we never see kakuzu fusing with all his hearts in character, maybe he is stronger then for example Deidara, Konan or sasori, but we never see it. Kakuzu based on what we see is stronger only than Hidan, that's sad but it is what it is. But Shikamaru beating Kakuzu is a little bit too much for me xD do yi see Shikamaru beating Kakashi from this arc even without his Mangekyo?
@@UberRoot3294 Yeah I know we don’t see Kakuzu fuse with his hearts and go all out but even with him not going all out. He’s easily above every Leaf Jonin. He scales above Kakashi, Kakashi is the strongest leaf Jonin.
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If Shikamaru scales above Kakuzu then there would be no need for Naruto to arrive because Kakashi is easily above Hidan. The dude who made this video is a bit bias towards certain characters or they watched Naruto through reels.
@@ExoticZah Idk, he's doing good Naruto analysis do far and has interesting unusual points, he just said something stupid like everybody sometimes do
@@ExoticZah bro unsubbing cuz kakazu slander the meme couldn't be this real
Loving the video so far, I just wanna leave a quick point before I forget though.
When Sakura was blitzed by Sasuke wasn’t she poisoned by the Ninetails? Also, that Naruto was also very fatigued. I don’t think this feet is good enough to make Sasuke a blitz level above Sasori, those Sasuke is most definitely faster.
Then what about Yamato? Sure you can argue he had to hold back but surely he would have been informed about Sasuke under going training from Orochimaru, a legendary sannin and wanted criminal.
@@remington_acr1651 I don’t think he did hold back. Sasuke just straight up blitzed him.
However, Yamato doesn’t really scale anywhere though. So I don’t think you can make a connection between him and Sasori.
@@___________0Z0Xyamamoto was kakashis replacement as the leader for team 7 on that mission implying superiority so base sasuke still casually perception blitzes everyone there. thats another thing that should be considered is that he has access to sharingan and 2 stages of the curse mark to amp his speed so hes actually multiple full speed tiers above that feat, during which he wasnt even really taking the fight seriously
@@AidenB1010true, but sasuke did suppress the nine tails. Four tails Naruto would've been a serious threat to him.
That would've been a really fun fight. Someone make a video about that, please.
This is a very interesting premise!
I think so too!
Amazing video bro!! Finally someone who represents Itachi well against 7 gates Gai!! 8 gates Gai would overwhelm him but 7 gates isn't enough to take out Itachi.
I agree, I think people far underestimate Itachi and overestimate seventh gate guy!
@@Virhtue nope you guys clearly overestimating itachi how will he deal with someone like guy who is moving at inhuman speeeds punching him in his neck
sakura and chyio in that cave would beat the living shit out of deidara
Hell no considering Sasuke was struggling against deidera💀
HOW WHAT
Such a w idea
Honestly Hidan probably ends up like one of the paths of Pain did, he'd just get shredded down, Kakuzu was much much more durable
W vid!
I have a question, could Kisame really absorb kirin? I thought the point of the technique was that it was natural lightning.
Thanks in advance for your answer, and I love your videos man!
no he couldn't absorb it he would become shark meet , sasuke would use his left over chunks on his sword as fish hooks, kisame thrives off Chakra cloaks and more wreckless fighters sasuke is the opposite
Ok who’s out here saying Edo Itachi is weaker than alive Itachi??? Like what I’m pretty sure it’s blatantly shown that the opposite is true
Bro does not miss🔥
Thank you very much my friend🙏🏻
The only 2 fights that i am really intrigued by is Sasuke vs Sasori & Sasuke vs Kisame. Watching Sasuke go Madara mode on a 100 puppets would be sick
like he did with narutos clones in part 1, or deidaras clay monsters that would be hype
Kakuzu didn’t die to Rasenshuriken he died overtime from the chidori, the rasenshuriken just destroyed his chakra network, so Hidan wouldn’t die he just wouldn’t be able to use chakra at all after getting hit rendering him unable to fight.
Noodles would cook that Kakazu section 😂
close fight against shikamaru
Zip it up
Obito only scales to kcm in the white mask. Narutos has to master the ninetails because obito can control the the ninetails not because hes stronger
I think it does kind of suck that Orange Mask Obito doesn't really have that many feats. I stand by that Izanagi is bullshit and Konan should have won that fight, but I really like Konan and feel like a lot of really unique skills and abilities got shafted by poor writing choices, at the very least killing her there was unnecessary and having her survive to be a pillar in the War Arc would have been really cool and prevent the waisted potential she had.
But, yeah, masked obito is pretty strong, I want to say that Obito COULD lose, but that it's like a 60% to 40% winrate basically. Since a big part of Pain's strength is the fact no one knew he was actually Nagato, Obito does know that fact so he'd probably be able to get to Nagato and finish the fight rather quickly. BUT nagato does have a lot of "Instant Death" opportunities and if Konan was able to force obito to use Izanagi, I don't see why Pain couldn't do it more easily.
Simple answer is It's a trap. Konon know how to counter kamui and have perfect ability for that but pain don't have that...
17:20 dude ran out if breathe after 17 mins of heat 🔥🔥🔥
Appreciate it goat
When Sasori and Chiyo clash their three puppets, it is a blur from Sakura's perspective, which she notes is amazing. Sasori can control puppets even faster than that since he is still using his hands which adds input lag. Sakura needed to initially adapt to Sasori's movements via his finger movements which is, again, not actually his full speed.
Itachi and Kisame were also shown by the point of Sha no Sho, and it seems unlikely Sasuke is near them, either. That it is a middle tier is nebulous, as Sasori could also just be on the upper end of that tier at full power.
Sasuke might not have an opening to hit the Sandaime Kazekage puppet since Sasori only brought it close to Sakura after she was nicked, and Sasuke has no antidote. As for his poison resistance, as noted in Akatsuki Hiden, Sasori is constantly updating his poison make-up to keep up its lethality, so it is not exactly clear if Orochimaru's baseline poison resistance would be enough.
Shinki's Magnet Release uses Lightning Release to amplify it as noted by Sarada and Boruto (regular Magnet Release does not even include Lightning Release at all, as Rasa, another Maget Release user, lacks the nature altogether). This is actually visible as blue strings which is commented on. Sandaime Kazekage does not have this, so it is unclear if it even shares that weakness. Even if Sandaime Kazekage did have this weakness, neither Mitsuki nor Boruto's Lightning Release was actually able to break through it, with Shinki faking weakness against the former to land a strike, which would be lethal if it was Sasuke. It took a Kote Shiden to actually break it, and the upper limits of Sandaime Kazekage's sand's durability therein is rather unknown. Not even Sakura's punches actually broke up the iron sand constructs, only moved them. Considering Sasori has other unseen human puppets, and that his own puppet body is even stronger than Sandaime Kazekage, I would give Sasori the edge if he goes all out (as he was underestimating Chiyo and Sakura from the onset).
Sakura was able to withstand the force of her own explosive tag detonating point-blank, and Chiyo has long-range puppets that were with a distraction able to catch Sasori. Her barriers from her puppets and her own arm were also able to block Sandaime Kazekage's iron sand, so they might also be able to shield against lower forms of explosive clay. Deidara does not have an unlimited amount of clay, and with barriers, healing, and twelve puppets, he might be forced to the ground before he can use C4.
That Kisame suppression shown on-screen from a databook, not Akatsuki Hiden, though Akatsuki Hiden does suggest Itachi would be able to kill Kisame if it came to it.
Kimimaro was at the point of almost not being able to move due to his illness and was eventually paralyzed, yet the Edo Tensei shows no such signs. Whilst it is true the Edo Tensei revives at the moment of death, it seems illnesses are automatically expunged, possibly as a part of the regeneration. Nagato was revived at exactly the moment of death, even showing his white hair from the overexertion of the Rinne Tensei, so it seems the Edo Tensei just regenerated the blindness (not the same as the Izanami blindness which just gives up the eye's light altogether).
Out of universe censorship is not exactly a real explanation, though I will just say that they are shown to bleed for summoning, and Hanzō even has a poison gland, indicating organs are maintained when need be.
30% Itachi was not outpacing Kakashi during their clash as that was actually a Shadow Clone which Itachi was not able to see through, in which Kakashi purposefully let himself get tangled with Itachi so Naruto could blast them both.
It is not clear if the Yata Mirror can really change its properties to reflect an air cannon, or if it is strong enough to do so (the Hirudora not appearing until after Sha no Sho). Whilst Guy in the war might be stronger, when he used the Hirudora against Madara he was greatly fatigued, and that was able to grab the Susanoo and send it flying.
Hebi Sasuke was able to get in front of both Suigetsu and a partially transformed Jūgo and threatened to kill both of them, to which Suigetsu notes he very well could, essentially. A more evolved Taka Sasuke would be above them.
Suigetsu's swing was able to die with Jūgo's partially transformed slice, and both of them could hold back attacks from A and Darui (somewhat, Suigetsu had to liquefy his arm to not get them wrenched off), and Obito just completely blocked it. The inherent strength of his body is also strong enough to impale someone by just running his arm through them.
If Obito activates Kamui the rain would just fall through him until he chooses to actually attack, so it might not help Pain that much in the grand scheme. On an unrelated note, it does not prove that Pain figures it out, as Konan could have just told him, from which he could deduce the hypothetical countermeasure.
Obito was able to slip through the ground when using Kamui, so the degree to which it affects him seems to be under his control. Tendō is also sometimes said to only use attractive and repulsive forces again to gravity, rather than gravity itself, a sort of press/blast wave which might also just phase through Obito. Alternatively, Obito could warp himself into Kamui before the ability affects him since he was able to warp in, warp Sasuke, and then warp out all before Dust Release could take effect.
saying the regeneration just targets an inherent sickness that effects the way the body functions but ignoring that nagato got revived without being able to walk when that was a physical injury that he could regenerate by absorbing chakra is fucking wild lmao, sicknesses dont just get regenerated
Nagato was not damaged, per say; he was crippled, it was essentially his natural state of being by that point.
sasuke would make chicken fingers out of Mr blue fish face
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A weakened base Kisame was able to take an attack from KCM1 Naruto and still escape.
True and he also tanks the Seventh gate Hirudora, which is ridiculous
Exactly and he was in his sword and out of chakra.
@@Virhtuehe didn’t tank shit bruh lol guy needed him to survive
Plus, he is shooting an air bomb “AIR BOMB” underwater against a WATER BOMB!
I would guess that the impact would be reduced, and if guy wanted him dead, he could’ve killed him instead of just punching him in the gut after he told him to not move
Plus, guy never even attacked close range to anyone other other than jubidara while in 7th gate lol guy slaps tf outta kisame and itachi via 7th gate blitz
Couldnt disagree more about Sasori vs Sasuke. It wouldnt be a slam dunk either side but, at that point, I don't see Sasuke doing much when Sasori gets serious. Sasori never got 100% serious against Sakura and Chiyo. But even if he did. Them fighting Sasori is like Sasuke fighting Deidara. Sakura had a cure for Sasoris poison (which stumped the entire sand village medical corp) and Chiyo was the greatest puppet master in Naruto history. Sasuke had the sharingan and could defeat Hiruko and maybe 3rd Kazekage. But when the 1,000 puppets come out he's gonna get overwhelmed he can only fight off so many at once. And if he gets hit once its over.
sasuke wins dawg Idk what to tell u, blitz tier above him but also his sharingan just is a cheat code really, but the nuisance doesn't matter cuz hebi sasuke is a blitz tier above , and based off his encounter with deidara and tobi he would lunge at sasori right away
@@IIIISai You literally replied to both my comments saying "sasukes better, thats that" the best Sasuke would be able to do is defeat the 3rd Kazekage puppet and that's honestly being generous.
1) Sasori is a Kage level criminal, the 6th strongest in the Akatsuki, Deidara admitted Sasori was more dangerous than he is, and the only reason Sasuke defeated Deidara was a crippling elemental advantage and his sharingan. An elemental advantage, that they literally had to write in just to give Sasuke a chance.
2) one hit from Sasori, and Sasukes dead, he wouldnt have an antidote, he's not on good terms with the leaf at this point. And Kabuto with all his medical knowledge, is admittidly not as skilled as Tsunade in that field.
3) Sasuke could barely keep up with the dozen or so clay clones Deidara sent after him, you really think he could keep up with 100 puppets? Remember Sasori was holding back against Chiyo and Sakura and those puppets overwhelmed the 10 best puppets the sand village had.
@@zackc5973 Just playing devil's advocate but what if Sasuke's CM2 version granted him an immunity boost of sorts. I believe it was stated by Tsunade that Orochimaru might have boosted Sasuke's resistance to poison and seeing as Oro and Sasori go way back... well in any case it seems interesting to think about haha.
@@Chibuike16 That is interesting actually. Even with a poison immunity hes not beating Sasoris 100 puppets if hes being serious. The sharingan let him barely keep up with about a dozen clay dolls
The rest are more debatable but Obito dumpsters Pain literally cannot touch him and Kamui counters all of the Paths abilities whereas Obito can just remove individual paths from the fight or just find Nagato and get him Edit: Also the fact that the Sharingan can see Chakra would let Obito see where Nagato is and just Kamui there and deal with Nagato fight over
He can’t remove the paths, the pains neural pathways work across dimensions, as shown in Jiraiya’s toad mouth so the pains would get sucked in and would prevent obito from materializing for the entire fight or else they would hit him from the inside?!?
Itachi over guy is CRAZY 😂
It really isn't! Naruto fans don't how the anime power system works and treat it like it's DBZ.
@@ihateveryone2no Guy no diffs itachi in 7th gate lmao. A hirudora from guy destroyed madaras perfect susanoo. Itachi doesn’t even have a perfect susano and he has pathetic chakra levels, guy speed blitz.
@@aleclegault5729 Hirudora is not omnidirectional and yata mirror can tank it. Itachi can react to a lightning attack só he can direct the mirror to the attack alright. I am not saying that he wins but its certainly not a stomp from any side. As i said, Naruto aint no DBZ, Just because A beats B, doesnt mean it beats C.
@@ihateveryone2 yata mirror only nullifies ninjutsu based attacks. Hirudora is pure physical energy. If madaras perfect susano couldn’t withstand hirudora ain’t no fucking way that itachis weak ass susanoo is surviving, stop meat riding Itachi, he’s way below 7th gate guy
?????
Also saying itachi was lying is stupid and shows you are young and watch Naruto later, itachi was not originally a ally to the leaf this was later for shippuden
Prove that baseless claim
@@Virhtue it’s not baseless it’s actual facts bro I really like your channel and I watch every freaking video bro but don’t refuse your comment with a lame response as you did the last two and I’m not asking you to try and comment to everyone I know that’s impossible and unrealistic but come on be for real do your research Itachi was not meant to be a good guy until Shippuden
@@Noblesavage31 ah the retcon I hate it, i prefer part 1 itachi
Had a what if for you, what if gaara had full control of the one tail, (like bee) or what if the one tail appeared vs deidara
Sasori had to fight a what now😭😭
Itachi's yata mirror omni direction?? 🤣🤣. If it cab reflect all attack then why Itachi don't used in nagato fight against to counter chibaku tensi's gravity??? ... Guy slams Itachi... Itachi's susanoo get Obilarated by kirin a building level attack, and guy have island level attack to slam itachi.
Because he can’t fundamentally use a defensive attack in an offensive required situation
@@Virhtue What about white snake attack? .. And where it stated omni directional?? And even though if it counters all attack mean it also produce anti gravity to counter the attracting force right so offensive attack is not need and help of other 2 Jinchuriki...
He didn't need it. That's why he didn't use it. He always uses proportional responses as to the needs of the situation. If he didn't use it, it's because he didn't need it.
@@Blubackbub But he need people's help not his own power? Stupid statement...
Itachi is on the same level as Obito in physicals (not white mask) and loses to those hacks and stamina. Pain has better Chakra levels than either, but matches Obito in stamina, once again losing to hacks speed. Full Body Nagato is the real contender for the strongest until Obito has his white mask.
Sick Itachi is losing to Guy. Shikamaru not winning against Kakuzu.
Fax
Remember kisame survived the hirudora cause guy wanted him too.
Remember guy opens the 7th gate too end the fight not cause he didn’t think he’d lose
Also guy only used the gate to end shit in his fights with kisame guy was literally beating him no diff
You will not prove that initial claim
@@Virhtue why didn’t he just kill him when he moved his finger instead he punched him and brought him back for interrogation? Don’t be ridiculous man that is completely obvious. You blatantly dismiss this fact.
@@Virhtue he literally says it himself that there were too many sharks. He won’t be able to find the scroll. So he planned on obliterating the entire area that’s why he opened the second gate using afternoon tiger
Once he did it, the fight was over guy could have slit his throat if he wanted him dead
Remember, the attack was done underneath copious amount of water. He shot a freaking air bomb bro I would like to assume that its pressure was reduced, considering it was going up against a jutsu and natural bodies of water. wouldn’t that reduce the attack potency you could also see that was the case on why he survived because it wasn’t as strong as it could be?? but if that’s the case, still could’ve killed him after the attack was over, right explained that virtue
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I agree with everything other than Itachi vs Guy. Itachi loses but it's not gonna be easy.
Also, while I agree Konan would get smoked by Naruto I don't think saying "she's not all that" is appropriate, she's still very strong, a bit weaker than base Jirayia. It's just Sage Mode Naruto is on another level. Like he could probably take on a major country at this point and put up a decent fight. Any mid to small nation he destroys.
just for orochimaru to slam the whole list
Naruto>>>>>>>>Hiddan
If Shikamaru has intel on Kakuzu's quirks he can make a strategy to kill him, now if he doesn't he's dead there's no way he can win
Sasori didn't go fully in his battle against Sakura and Chiyo and it's implied as well, I kinda think he's a better fight for Sasuke than Deidara, he would really give a headache and challenge to Sasuke with all his stages and puppets even if Sasuke would be superior to each of them individually, also you gotta remember he has a lot of human puppets with their jutsus that he didn't use against Sakura and Chiyo cuz he wanted to die, but either way at the end Sasuke would win at least with Kirin
Deidara destroys Sakura and Chiyo with long distance explosives there's no chance at all for them
It's a little debatable if Guy can beat Itachi in his 7th gate form, I think because of Guy's speed and power vs Itachi's sickness he could win, but also because of his jutsu and specially his intelligence he could definitely beat Guy, it's also a kind of endurance fight
Sasuke and Kisame is also very interesting, Kisame scales higher than Hebi Sasuke but he has lightning release, tho Killer Bee never uses a lightning jutsu against Kisame so that means either he's not weak against it or Bee can only use lightning chakra with his weapons and doesn't know any lightning jutsu at all, if anything Kisame's clearly stronger than Sasuke but Kirin destroys him for sure
Prep time Konan destroys SM Naruto, but if there's no prep time he should win but Konan's flying is a bothersome match
Pain definitely loses to Obito but if it was edo tensei Nagato who is not only broken but also knows how Obito's jutsu kinda works, he can definitely win
How is Shikamaru beating Kakuzu? Not even a fan of Kakuzu but this sounds hella bias against him. Kakashi is stronger than Hidan. If Shikamaru was stronger than Kakuzu then they would have won the 4Vs2 long before Naruto arrived. Disingenuous. I’m going to go watch ThunderGod videos.
I said Kakuzu wins
@@Virhtue”Kakuzu could probably overcome it” Bro it’s an absolute stomp in Kakuzu’s favor. Shikamaru does not have no speed advantage like you said. Kakuzu wins 10/10 times, no where near is that battle close just because he reacted to some of his movies. He needed to be saved each time and I highly doubt Kakuzu was going all out on him.
@@VirhtueIf Kakuzu was really dead set focused on killing Shikamaru then he would have died right with Asuma. Shikamaru is jonin lvl, Kakuzu is way above that. Team Asuma had trouble 4vs1 Hidan. Kakuzu sat back and let Hidan do a 1Vs4, he was never going all out. Only focused on his mission which is chasing a bag/capture tailed beast. Opposed to Hidan who just wants to kill for his religion. If you don’t have a bounty or isnt a tailed beast, he doesn’t care for you.
are u one of kakazus hearts cuz how he got you glued to this
@@IIIISai that was corny.
Videos like these are dope🔥
Sasori did not get countered by Sakura and chio he just sucks.
Doing my puppet man dirty😭
@@___________0Z0X it’s true tho😂sasori being a well known puppet poison user is not a counter it’s common knowledge, especially for people in sand village.
No one says sasori countered Sakura. Her taijutsu didn’t work on his body and he still lost😂
watch your mouth about the goat
strongest mid tier sasori 🐐
@@nwk1626 dawg the only akastki member sasori is beating is hidan.
@@mattmcwhirt4146 + konan + kakuzu + kisame + deidara + zetsu
Blood argument is ireletive bleach manga is also shonnen and kubo does not shy away from gore
Is this bleach no, SJ holds different authority to different age scopes
There's no way Naruto beats Hidan. One scratch and it's gg. Rasenshuriken can't kill an immortal.
Interesting why so?
@@Virhtue Naruto isn't smart enough to pull off a strategy to "kill" Hidan like Shikamaru was. It would be a war of attrition where one person can't die and all he needs to do to win is barely break the skin of his opponent. I'd give it to Sage Naruto with his ranged expanding RS. That could do enough damage to end the fight by just cutting him in half and making him unable to use a weapon.
Also, I'm pretty sure Madara was a bloody mess after his encounter with Night Guy. The manga is absolutely way more graphic than the show.
no way u think hidan beats naruto wtf
@@critik_l part 1 gaara negs hidan
@@IIIISai that’s because Hidan is too slow to touch Gaara. Naruto is reckless and there’s no chance he could avoid at least getting scratched.
I don't think it's black n white , suigetsu even if like hebi sasuke tier doesn't have the same hax, I don't see why sasukes genjutsu or Potential snake bite posion (never shown but he absorbed orochimaru), kirin is natural lightening so it can't be absorbed and lightening negs water, I think cm 2 sasuke would just be relative vs the cloaked bee that was rivaling kisame , or faster, basically what I'm saying is the beginning of the match clash I see sasuke doing what he did vs deidara and obito and go for the kill, the issue with these mus is people match up late game techniques, shark mode bubble kisame can possibly beat sasuke but sasuke wins before he gets to that level, sasukes main win con is speed and lightening, if i disagree that's fine
Interesting
bro...no hate for shikamaru,but kakuu absolutely distroys him
I’m ngl you kinda burned down the kitchen in some parts of this vid
using Sakura to scale Sasuke above Sasori doesnt make sense because Sakura is amped vs Sasori and nerfed vs Sasuke
Could you prove that her neurotransmitters would fire any slower if not thinking about him.
they get negged bud
Kisame > hebi sasuke / orochimaru > kisame ? You are talking shit
Why you disagree
@@Virhtue because youre scaling makes no sense. In this vid you are saying kisame is stronger then hebi sasuke and in other vid you are saying orochimaru is stronger then kisame. If kisame is weaker then orochimaru then sasuke beats him
@@Virhtue and youre Argumentation was that samehada can Not absorb Orochimarus chakra, this is so wrong, pls explain to me why samehada wont take oros chakra but He chakra of hebi who got oros chakra. Samehada bekamen concious in the bee fight because it got verry much chakra and evolved, Prior to this it sucked everything away, doesnt mater which chakra, so the samehada who wont take every chakra is bees Version Not kisames
@@iliebalica4012 I never said he would I gave a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that Samehada likely will not absorb the chakra as we know a type of chakra he likes, it’s your burden to prove to me why this isn’t the most likely case
@@Virhtue because you can clearly See samehada evolve through the 8tails chakra and it never refuzed to take chakra while it is Controlled by kisame. Also it is youre burgen to proove kisame did Not react to bees lariat, proove me it was samehada
Agreed I also think obito would slam pain
I'm pretty sure im alone in this, but I've always had Pain>Itachi>Obito
The problem with obito is that at least his orange mask version doesn't have powerful moves. The only thing he have is a perfect defense in form of kamui, and being almost always untouchable makes him become very strong and unbeatable most of the times. But i agree that in terms of full power he is not that strong
I think it’s Obito>Pain>Itachi
Potentially Itachi>Pain
U r alone
Definitely alone w that lol
All Itachi has to do it coat himself with amerastu and wait it’s not that crazy.
hes not sasuke he probably has a different tactic
Naruto literally bleeds in EVERY battle....he doesn't beat hidan even tho he scales above him....hacks are hacks
hidan has zero counter to multiple shadow clones and would definitely get hit by a rasenshuriken eventually
@@yagopagliara8837 and???
hidan loses bruh
Thing is. The pain Naruto gought against was weakened. And I'm almost certain Itachi can spar h2h with Pain. Which means Sasuke should be able to keep up with and destroy paths of pain.
sasuke is physically faster than pain I agree with that