I found it very interesting that there wasn’t a 20 yd difference between the Max D and the LS. I bought the Aerojet based on your review last year think I will wait till you hit the Cobra and Callaway woods. Seeing your difference between the stealth 2 and the QI10 was also eye opening. No point in spending $800 on a driver for a few yards. Mind you my swing isn’t at all like yours. Lol. Great video. Patiently waiting for the others. Hurry up. Bahahaha
Love your videos! One of my favorite channels. What do you think about the fact that they call their driver line QI10 but only one of the three drivers is actually at 10,000 MOI?
Need alert incoming. G400 max was pushing 10k (9900 g/cm^2) and the g425 max was at/over 10k g/cm^2 too. Thing to remember that the “moi number” is a combined number that covers heel/toe deflection and crown/sole deflection off off-center strikes. Good on TM for getting a really forgiving number, but I’m getting Apple “we did it first” vibes from their marketing. Great vid bud! As always!
Thanks! That makes sense. Ya they explained it as it's very hard to get the moi to 10k while maintaining speed and low spin. I'm not too technical so I just want to know if it works or not. Lol. Interesting to see PIng come out with the G430 10k simultaneously. Hoping to test that soon too. 🍻
@@NewNineGolf Exactly - for those of us who live and play at higher elevation, all our stock yardages are set based on this. Why change that on Trackman? That's like asking other reviewers who are at sea level to increase that setting to 3500ft so us "Rockies" people can see their numbers at elevation? Makes ZERO sense. Carry on fellow Calgarian.
Funny you ask, we just released a video with my buddy who has a high spin. Check it out. Maybe it'll give you a better idea. 🍻 ruclips.net/video/YMIC0A4yzoU/видео.html
You’re carrying your drives 320? Are the specs on that trackman jacked up a bit? You obviously are a great golfer and strong but carrying 320 or 25 is a bit questionable.
Thanks. I don't know if everyone just saw a video or something and was saying that the g400 was 10k. But was not 10k. That's also why Ping just announced the 430 max 10k. I'm going off of what Taylor made is saying so I don't know if the Qi10 was the first or the G430 max 10k. Thanks for watching. 🍻
In addition to the Ping G400 Max like you mentioned, I'm pretty sure some of the other square drivers of the past such as the Nike Sumo 5900 also hit 10K but that was before the vertical MOI number was factored into the marketing. Cobra also had drivers such as the L4V that literally had it's name based on the fact they hit the maximum limit of all four USGA variables (COR, head dimensions, volume and MOI). The reason most companies don't go so high in MOI is due to the loss of ball speed and increased spin. Losing either of these two variables is way worse than gaining slightly higher MOI and a properly fit "normal" driver will allow you to keep the ballspeed and not get excessive on the spin while still getting great dispersion. High MOI drivers are pretty great for "off the shelf" fittings as they do go very straight.
Check again. G400 Max 5700 Moi as for ping. Why else would they advertise G430 10k.... If they've done it before? You're looking at combined moi for these old drivers. Lol
@@NewNineGolfthanks! I am in a similar boat swing speed wise and used your video a couple of years ago to inform my fitting into an ltdx ls. I still struggle a bit with spin and launch and will likely go to a new driver and shaft this year. I am at about 3000 average with a +1 attack angle, but the difference is likely in the ventus vs my tensei raw white. Getting good impact but as soon as I swing it over 120 it’s hard to hold under 3000 no matter what. I need more AoA but easier said than done.
That's funny cuz I've been spinning a little high and searching for a new shaft as well. Sooo I hit the cobra dark speed drivers today n popped in a ventus blue tr...... Video coming soon. But that may be an option this year. Haha
Hey nice to see the driver reviews again and I hope to see another driver bracket later this year…happy new year and I hope you and your family are doing well.
Considering my clubs are a day older than dirt. I really like the look of the new taylormades over the stealths. I am hoping i can demo or even get fitted for a new set sometime. Its been a long time since ive golfed regularly, but would love to get i to it again.
![FendiDa Rappa - Clock Dat ft. Shamar Marco [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3NBU8KHdxYY/mqdefault.jpg)
If I were looking to move out of my tsr3 to a TaylorMade I would go qi10 simply because the stealth looks too wild for me.
Love how you compared to last year's model. Other reviewers don't do that, and generally how it compares is what I want to know most.
thanks for actually comparing to old models. Most guys just post new stats and act like it's some huge improvement
I found it very interesting that there wasn’t a 20 yd difference between the Max D and the LS. I bought the Aerojet based on your review last year think I will wait till you hit the Cobra and Callaway woods. Seeing your difference between the stealth 2 and the QI10 was also eye opening. No point in spending $800 on a driver for a few yards. Mind you my swing isn’t at all like yours. Lol. Great video. Patiently waiting for the others. Hurry up. Bahahaha
The G400 Max was the first driver over 10k moi. Ping beat everyone to this like 6 years ago
It didn't hit 10k tho.
Still gaming a crappy R1… That Qi10 Max would be worth a look… finally getting fitted this year (assuming the Canadian deep freeze breaks!)
Let’s hope!! 🤞🏻
Love your videos! One of my favorite channels. What do you think about the fact that they call their driver line QI10 but only one of the three drivers is actually at 10,000 MOI?
It’s an interesting take for sure! Not sure how I feel about it.
Nice to see an Albertan doing reviews, great review!
Thanks for the support! 🇨🇦
Thanks for doing these dudes. You’re like the only one that I can watch cuz your club head speed is similar.
Haha jealous of you both!
Need alert incoming. G400 max was pushing 10k (9900 g/cm^2) and the g425 max was at/over 10k g/cm^2 too. Thing to remember that the “moi number” is a combined number that covers heel/toe deflection and crown/sole deflection off off-center strikes.
Good on TM for getting a really forgiving number, but I’m getting Apple “we did it first” vibes from their marketing.
Great vid bud! As always!
I will blame their marketing for putting that in my mouth 😂
Thanks! That makes sense. Ya they explained it as it's very hard to get the moi to 10k while maintaining speed and low spin. I'm not too technical so I just want to know if it works or not. Lol. Interesting to see PIng come out with the G430 10k simultaneously. Hoping to test that soon too. 🍻
Dang, I buy new drivers every year. 2023 I bought them all. I just like to.
That time of the year as arrived!! One of the best reference on RUclips for golf clubs reviews.
Thank you. Appreciate it. 👊
great review well done looking forward to all your new reviews cheers from Vulcan Alberta
Thank you! Appreciate it. 🍻
Dude your videos are 🔥
I can’t wait to hit this driver for myself in the future!
Thank you! You’ll like it
Why don’t you set the elevation at 0 so I don’t think that you’re the longest driver on the planet
Because I don’t play at Sea level. All my stock yardages I know are at this elevation.
@@NewNineGolf Exactly - for those of us who live and play at higher elevation, all our stock yardages are set based on this. Why change that on Trackman? That's like asking other reviewers who are at sea level to increase that setting to 3500ft so us "Rockies" people can see their numbers at elevation? Makes ZERO sense. Carry on fellow Calgarian.
You need to bring in a mere mortal to hit these. By your numbers you should be on tour. I like watching you but the average Joe can’t do that.
I got the teams edition stealth 2 and feel like it’s forgiving enough and makes me feel young again
Taylormade used to drop 2 to 3 model lines a year. The one a year is different and appreciateted.
Love the channel man, great job on the video!
Thank you!
Hows the forgiveness on the LS model vs the Triple Diamond or tsr3? I swing at about 105MPH but my spin is really high, looking to bring it down.
Funny you ask, we just released a video with my buddy who has a high spin. Check it out. Maybe it'll give you a better idea. 🍻
ruclips.net/video/YMIC0A4yzoU/видео.html
You’re carrying your drives 320? Are the specs on that trackman jacked up a bit? You obviously are a great golfer and strong but carrying 320 or 25 is a bit questionable.
Elevation is up to 3428ft which is Calgary Elevation. I wold be roughly 10 yards shorter at sea level
Are you going to review the new Cobra Darkspeed LS? You should do a comparison between the AI Smoke Triple Diamond & Darkspeed LS!
Filmed it today! I will put that on the list. Thanks
Just imagine a 430 CC LS head !!!
Ironically, Colin did a WITB with Trottie recently and hes using the LS.
Ya I don't know what's going on. Rory and Scheffler using the Reg not LS now? Whatever works. Haha
Still hitting my Titlist 983e from 05. I think it time to upgrade but i still outdrive a lot of people with it.
Haha you'll out drive them even more then.
slow-mo cam is a gaaaaaaame changer!
They fix the problems with the carbon face popping off the stealth?
Ya so I did ask them about that. They were aware of the issue and said they addressed it. It was supposedly bad QC on the glue they used.
Like the videos but the ping g400 hit 10k years ago.
Thanks. I don't know if everyone just saw a video or something and was saying that the g400 was 10k. But was not 10k. That's also why Ping just announced the 430 max 10k. I'm going off of what Taylor made is saying so I don't know if the Qi10 was the first or the G430 max 10k. Thanks for watching. 🍻
Would be great to see Sim2/max vs QI series. I think a lot of us skipped the stealth generations
I'll see if I can get my hands on one. I skipped from M3 to the stealth 2 so I get it. Haha
Stealth 2 is a great club
You have to try the new Cobra, thing is a bomber.
Hit it yesterday. Video dropping in the next few days
Doesn't the ping have 10k moi as well?
Ya we filmed this right before Ping released the 430 10k. Will be doing a review on that too.
Would love to see Darkspeed vs Aerojet🔥🔥🔥
Dropping very soon
Ping G400 max had 10000 moi way before all this. Facts.
They just released the 430 Max 10k 2 days ago before we filmed it. So wouldn't say way before.
In addition to the Ping G400 Max like you mentioned, I'm pretty sure some of the other square drivers of the past such as the Nike Sumo 5900 also hit 10K but that was before the vertical MOI number was factored into the marketing. Cobra also had drivers such as the L4V that literally had it's name based on the fact they hit the maximum limit of all four USGA variables (COR, head dimensions, volume and MOI). The reason most companies don't go so high in MOI is due to the loss of ball speed and increased spin. Losing either of these two variables is way worse than gaining slightly higher MOI and a properly fit "normal" driver will allow you to keep the ballspeed and not get excessive on the spin while still getting great dispersion. High MOI drivers are pretty great for "off the shelf" fittings as they do go very straight.
@@NewNineGolf G400 bro. Not 430, 425. Hahahaha.
@@NewNineGolf so waaaay before would be a more correct statement
Check again. G400 Max 5700 Moi as for ping. Why else would they advertise G430 10k.... If they've done it before? You're looking at combined moi for these old drivers. Lol
Qi10 vs 430 10k review will be wild
Will put it on the list! Thanks for watching
I change my driver every 5 years
Whatever works for you. 🍻
Great review! love your format
Thanks Nick. Appreciate it. 🍻
What is your AoA? Nice video thanks!
Thanks. Average that session was +1.1 to +1.9°
@@NewNineGolfthanks! I am in a similar boat swing speed wise and used your video a couple of years ago to inform my fitting into an ltdx ls. I still struggle a bit with spin and launch and will likely go to a new driver and shaft this year. I am at about 3000 average with a +1 attack angle, but the difference is likely in the ventus vs my tensei raw white. Getting good impact but as soon as I swing it over 120 it’s hard to hold under 3000 no matter what. I need more AoA but easier said than done.
That's funny cuz I've been spinning a little high and searching for a new shaft as well. Sooo I hit the cobra dark speed drivers today n popped in a ventus blue tr...... Video coming soon. But that may be an option this year. Haha
This guy is awesome 👍
👊🏻🍻
Great video bro. Would love to see a SIM2 vs QI10 . Cheers
YES this plz
Very well put together.
Thank you. 👊
Hey nice to see the driver reviews again and I hope to see another driver bracket later this year…happy new year and I hope you and your family are doing well.
Thanks buddy. Driver bracket for sure. All the best.
Considering my clubs are a day older than dirt. I really like the look of the new taylormades over the stealths. I am hoping i can demo or even get fitted for a new set sometime. Its been a long time since ive golfed regularly, but would love to get i to it again.
Ya the new one looks good. Def try to get fitted and get out more regularly. Such a great game. 🍻