I'm so excited to see your reaction to this! Just reading your messages in chat made me hope you were gonna make this video right here!! I always get hyped when I see someone encounter this raid for the first time and they're a NIER fan cuz it's just aaaaaa! I remember BAWLING my eyes out when I first saw/heard this version and dying repeatedly to mechanics because I was 10000% overwhelmed. I am still bummed that I lost my VoD footage for the raid, but the memories will forever live on
Do you have another channel or am I going crazy? The last thing I remember seeing from you were Shadowbringers play through reactions and I'm seeing years of music reactions on your channel now instead.
Yoko Taro on learning there is massive quantities of pornography of his lead character, 2B: "Due to the 2B butt controversy, many outrageous drawings are being made. Collecting them to share individually is a pain. It would be great if we can group them together to make it easier to distribute them every week."
I knew he was nuts when I learned that he originally wanted the red orbs that permeate all 3 Nier raids to be instant raid wipes. As in, one person touches a single orb and all 24 people die. Yoshi-P had to tell him basically "uh, no, we can't do that"
The man is a master troll, so it's hard to know when he's being serious. On a FFXIV live letter, he mentioned he'd like to actually delete a datacenter in the way the character data can be deleted at the end of a NieR game.
My favorite bit to note with the "anything Nier related is canon" thing combined with the XIV crossover is that it means Earth canonically exists in XIV lore now.
4:18 Yes, it is in fact canon. Yoko Taro himself went on record multiple times saying that EVERY collab that 2B ever was a part of is actually canon. Meaning that this raid series along with her appearing in games like Soul Calibur and more recently Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising are canon as well. But... Like some have already said, the dude is also known to be massive troll, he loves to play coy and mess with people, so take that as you will lol.
Though I can definitely see the Nier: Automata crossover in FF XIV legitimately being canon, as we finally put an end to the main threat of the entire franchise up to that point, when said threat had up to that point been impossible to actually stop. Would be awesome if a future Automata game actually had 2B and/or 9S make a direct (albeit vague) reference to the Alliance Raids, such as them perhaps wondering if we were "humans" and if they had actually gotten to meet and fight alongside their "creators".
@@Dnomike Yup! The specific *thing* that shows up between parts 2 and 3 I think...? We get an explanation through that as to how all of the rest of the EVERYTHING showed up in FF14's world, and going back through the Nier/Drakengard timeline and tracing where that *thing* was seen in the past and what function it was shown to have before with new context, it all clicks together and more or less explains the overall cyclical nature of the timeline in a way I honestly really enjoy, even if you have to play an entirely different game from the rest of the series to experience it directly. But then again...... supplemental material introducing the story of No. 2 and No. 9 is uh........ kinda also important to what happens in the series and is *very* inaccessible through anything but the wiki. :')
To have this boss as the final one of the raids was, again, something that across brought me tears while playing it mostly because of the music. I recognised the bells similar to Drakengard, the series that spawned NIER - Kaine, being such a monumentally important song to NIER and then the violins of the main FF theme all in one. Like a culmination of everything, especially with the boss itself being a blend of Drakengard and NIER. Music hit hard.
Yeah, those bells are PTSD inducing for Drakengard fans. And when you understand What Her Inflorescence is you realize the true threat youre dealing with (for those who have beaten Endwalker yeah its about on line with that)
Without playing Nier, I still have to count this boss as one of my favorites with how unique the fight is. Like, having to dodge the Square Enix HQ being yeeted at you in the first minute of the phase is the single most memorable Alliance Raid mechanic in the entire game outside of perhaps getting sniped in Ivalice. Adding in the Red Girl Train Station and watching a quarter of the raid getting taken out by a passing metro train and it's just *chef's kiss*.
Every time I run this I always keep a joke line ready in Alliance chat so that immediately after the Square Enix HQ is thrown at us I yell: *"HEY! Throwing Square Enix HQ at us is cheating!"* Just to add a bit of humor to the whole thing. :P I love to just have one or two silly remarks ready for certain boss runs for specific moves or bosses (and in the latter case I try to do it with bosses who may otherwise be really stressful for newbies running the instance blind for the first time in the hopes of helping to keep them from feeling too stressed if things go wrong. I've had to encourage and cheer up some newbies to Orbonne several times after wiping to Thunder God due to them not knowing what to do). I also don't "spoil" what given bosses do if we have newbies with us in the run (so I tend to get annoyed if there are people who just flat out tell newbies what to do without even asking them if they want to try the fight "blind" first....it's one thing if the newbies _ask_ first, it's another entirely to just outright spoil it without bothering to let them experience the run "blind" first), since I want to try and make sure they get to experience as much of the run "blind" as possible and see if they can pick up on what to do for certain mechanics. I usually wait to offer the tell them what to do until after we've had two or more wipes (provided we wipe at all, of course) to a specific boss.
And then comes Thaleia. While the music is nice, most mechanics there are MASSIVE disappointment. Too easy and no one single one-shot mechanics for the last tier alliance raid. Already stop doing it after two times and this month the raid is super dead. I do hope SE learns their lesson because I don't want this trend to continue to DT.
"Psychic Damage" is the only way to describe how it felt playing Automata for the first time, and reaching the location where Kaine's theme plays. Just made me shutdown and sit there for a bit.
On launch day for the final raid tier. People were saying the last fight actually had an added mechanic. Those who played through the end of Nier had to also do the fight while fighting back tears and cursing at Yoko Taro, hahaha.
@@JessesAuditoriumThe bell tone "dun dun dun dun" is the chime from Drakengard Ending E as well.... "I. Hear. A. Sound." It's the tone that ultimately resulted in the ruination of Earth after the goddess, Caim and Angelus fell through the portal to Earth.
@@JessesAuditorium Now that I think about it I don't think you ever reacted to the FF Main Theme, at least the OG one. But you did heard it in 8 and 9, it's included in the end credits (and in other FFs as well but can't remember which one you played).
Chaos Language was made up by the composer Keiichi and the singer Emi. It's like what they think European languages will sound like in a thousand years. Not sure if it is mentioned in game.
That plus I believe I’ve also heard somewhere it was supposed to be so that the lyrics could be cinematic, but without distracting since they mean nothing, but who knows how true that is.
@@stitches1110 I feel like there's some slight reasoning behind the lyrics in a *way* but no *specific* meaning. Like... there's a vibe meant to be expressed through the lyrics and there's JUST enough in there with actual meaning- like the word Kaine is spoken in the song itself, and we don't know what that word means, but as it's also the name of a dramatically important character to the Nier franchise as a whole (and.... kindof Drakengard as well if my idea of her being a sort of echo of a particular violent protagonist of Drakengard 3......) that there's some intent to that song specifically being used. Cycles within cycles. Anyway ADHD tangent over, in summary: I agree that the lyrics are more to evoke an emotion than specific meaning, and my added idea is that there is some slight direct meaning to a few words, but most is made up for the sound itself.
I love the bells in the beginning so much. Iirc, Her Inflorescence is a character/boss from Drakengard and the bells always tolled her coming - so to have them use it again for her appearance in the FF14 collab is so ... powerful? And I really love this arrangement in general because the FF14 (or was it FF in general?) "main theme" (the violin part) in it fits so wonderfully!
It's the FF theme in general, aptly titled "Prelude". It's been in every single game in the series since the very start in some shape or form, even most spinoffs.
@@gbtygfvygYes, Queen Beast is a different variation but Her Inflorescence is another version of Queen Beast. In short WoL stopped the Black Scrawl from corrupting through The First
Hey Jesse, all the final bosses of the Nier raids have Nier/FF combo. Raid 1, Weight of the World x Prelude, Raid 2, The Dark Collosus Destroys All x Torn from the Heavens, and this one being Kaine x FF Main Theme.
@@iaxacs3801 I can't imagine the imagery as those bells drop helps either. He was really going for the Drakengard E vibes with that boss. Just glad the "mechanics" from that fight were severely toned down in their XIV incarnation.
This piece of music is so amazing. The moment I hear those opening chime I get chills. The chime motif is a huge clue into what's happening in this boss fight if you played Drakengard. Then the way they weave in the FF main theme. I can't get enough of this.
This song makes you feel warm and like you're being hugged which, by the time the FF leimotif comes in, just hits you twice as hard from making you remember the first time you heard that leimotif in your younger days. It's trying to recall you to a time long past, make you remember the warmth of those days and the magic that came from discovering both FF and NIER.
My favorite Yoko Taro troll was with character design in SinOfAlice. 'We need to show skin in the summer update!' Yoko Taro puts Dorothy in a Big Daddy diving suit.
It is heartwarming to see you more integrated with the gaming community and/or viewers in equal measure more and more with the bridge being both sides' passion for music 🎶♥
I am traumatized by the Flower itself from getting the drakengard 3 platinum. This song and fight simultaneously brought me to tears and drowned me in SEVERE PTSD.
I feel your pain, confronting this boss caused me to remember my own experience with the flower in drakengard 3. After hearing the bells I even said we're doomed.
@@jamesmetcalf5597 every time, I flash back to my 1st playthrough of drakengard 3, reaching Branch D and finding that cursed field of flowers and a 'Zombie' Five....the flowers alone were a very BAD sign that forever haunts me
@@craigfunk3453I want to play the final stage of D3 SO BADLY. I love rhythm games, I'm good at them.... but I don't know how to get my hands on the game lol.
@@KZorander i wouldn't exactly call that final 'stage' anything remotely 'Fair'. No checkpoints, constantly changing rhythms, and some final 'screw you' notes after everything goes black which ruins everyone's day. I played it a long while back as a digital download on my PS3
You asked if it's canon, and the answer is yes, to both FF14, AND to Nier Automata. Yoko Taro is a madman, and I'm fairly sure he'd put canon lore on the back of a one week run of milk cartons in Brazil if Square Enix would let him. Soul Calibur 6, Granblue, FF, an orchestral performance only in Japan... Man is SPREAD WIDE on lotsa places.
I started in 5.25 so this was the first raid that dropped after I got to endgame. I know this raid better than any other raid in the game just from being there day one. I love the chaos of it. I love the mass death and destruction. Healer main LMAO
This song was so powerful. Having played 14 before Nier, this song was the big thing that made me want to play through both Nier games. I'm so glad I did. And also wanting to understand at least something from the raid series.
I had played the first 24 man series, and it got me to play Automata before the second and third set came out. Which made my hype go off the charts playing those raid series on patch day, because I basically became the Wojak pointing meme when you get to the Alien Ship in The Puppet's Bunker, cause I'm thinking Adam and Eve are coming up. Then doing it even harder on the entire final series cause so many of the bosses were Drakenguard references. And the final song.
"Her Inflorescence" is the boss name. The track name, per the in-game orchestrion roll, is "Kainé (Final Fantasy Main Theme Version)". Chaos language is the name given to the language Emi Evans created for the games, though I think it's an unofficial name. There are a few variants of it, such as English, Japanese, French, and Gaelic. It's supposed to represent language as it would sound in the future- slightly like the languages it's modeled off, but not enough to understand it. The one exception to this is "Song of the Ancients", with Emi has said is a mish mash of language types that was basically her first attempt at Chaos language.
I'm shocked you haven't done this one already. I played this raid on release and there were lots of wipes purely from how emotional so many people - myself included - got from the music.
To paraphrase a comment I saw on another video about this song... Nier automata players: This is pretty! Nier Gestalt/Replicant players: OMG my heart!! Drakengard players: *Vietnam flashbacks* So glad you reacted to this gorgeous song played in such a fantastic fight! And yeah I don't believe they ever mention "chaos language" in game, its just something you find out when digging into it.
I never played Drakengard, but the Nier games and man this theme was such a nice surprise for me the first time I reached this fight. The Nier collab is the raid series I love replaying the most in FF14, because the entire thing is such a vibe with the fantastic soundtrack and combat encounters.
This song shows the emotional power music can have. Putting the crystal theme in there in a minor key on the violin just gives me goosebumps. The entire song is beautiful but the violin is haunting.
Man, this song. I died so much from this boss on my first time because of this music. Even my healer at the time said they can't heal emotional damage 😂
Any Drakengard/NieR veterans were in tears and suffering PTSD simultaneously while dealing with this raid. So many wipes happened, but it was all in the name of overcoming the tears and listening to the song for longer
They used this one I think because it was one they could tie in a Minor Key version of the Final Fantasy Main Theme with. The final boss music of each of the 3 raids was a mixup between Nier and FF music. Kaine with FF Main theme for The Tower at Pardigm's Breach, Dark Colossus with Torn from the Heavens for Puppet's Bunker, and Weight of the World with the Prelude for Copied Factory. The rest of the music in the Nier raids was verbatim, but these 3 were special.
Ah man, i'm so happy you're listening to this verison. I absolutely adore this song. The entire Nier 24 Man Raids of the Shadowbringers expansion was an absolute trip to experience as a first timer. This finale being the ultimate culmination of ot all as despite never playing Drakengard or Nier, this song still hit someplace inside me. Someplace strange yet oddly familiar, as if my mind was trying to recall memories I know i never had.
The Nier raid osts are just Nier music (Replicant and Automata) thrown into 14, aside from the 3 raids final bosses: First one is Weight of the World (Prelude Version), 2nd is Dark Colossus like you mentioned, and the third is this one. Surprised it took so long for you to get to this one actually lol, I guess it's not as full of energy or catchy as the other two.
I hope you find time to play 14 someday. This was some of the most unique side content in the game and i wish they made it longer. Its really amazing how they seamlessly tie totally unrelated games/stories in to FF14. p.s. good job Zordon! She really is awesome! ^.^
@@consumablecorner150 thats not a terrible idea, but i'd prefer people play on their own time/terms and not have to feel obligated to play it, even if they would enjoy the crap out of it. XD
Jesse The Bells at the Start of the Song is a Huge Call Back to Drakengard 1 the First Game of Yoko Taros which is the One that Started Nier. i Love it is Taking Drakengard , Nier & FF Tracks and Put them Together.
Fun fact! The raid this plays in was released before Nier Replicant's remake was, so because this uses that game's voice performance, this ended up being a nice little preview of its soundtrack.
I was happy to see you reacting to this song. HUGE fan of both franchises and what they did with this song was incredible. I must say that I love this encounter in FFXIV and sometimes I decided to do it just to listen to this song lol (and sing while wiping on mechanics because I was too focused on the music instead of the boss xD and boy, she hits like a train sometimes xD). About the chaos language, if I'm not wrong, it's not mentioned in game. Yoko Taro mentioned in an interview that they chose to go with this made up, mysterious language because they thought that if they used real words that might distract and take the player's attention from the game. From what I've read about, there was a whole creation process involving the team and Emi Evans , so it seems it was more of a creation thing than something justified in lore.
I think it was Emi Evans herself who named it chaos language if i recall correctly. Also the bells at the very beginning of the song are a sample from a song in Drakengard 1 and they way they're used to create completely different vibes is really cool imo c:
I loved how they combined Final Fantasy with Nier both raidwise, and also in terms of music through that sad violin solo in Minor. And also those darn bells that would instantly give any Drakengard players PTSD upon hearing them. Fun fact, after defeating the boss (that grotesque queen looking thing), there's no victory fanfare being played unlike other raids/dungeons, or even every other FF games after finishing a monster encounter. It's just you, your party, and the desolated cityscape of Japan. All you hear are the soft howl of the wind, knowing that you have just silenced the Mother's song, and you have brought Glory to Mankind. Second fun fact: That first boss mechanic where there's a building being hurled from below you? That's the Square Enix building. Yoko Taro decided it's gonna be entertaining to see players being yeeted by Square themselves.
I love that the final boss fight, the city is based off Drakengard 3 one of Yoko Taro's works. Also the bells you hear at the start of the song, I've been told it's a motif from the Final Song ~ Black Song White Scales also from Drakengard 3.
I assure you, whenever I spawn into this Raid, I have two reactions: First: Hell yes, NieR !!! secnd: How will i dodge the tears in the last fight...!?
The slightly discordant bells remind me a lot of "Black Song" from Drakengaard 3 or the music during the Queen Beast fight of Drakengaard 1, mixed in with the Kaine music from Nier: Gestalt/Replicant. Chaos Language isn't something from ingame, but how it's creator Emi Evans calls it. It isn't a language like the LotR Elvish or Klingon from Start Trek. It's a collection of sounds meant to sound like a language, but carrying no inherent meaning, so you can just pick whatever sounds best without having to worry about the lyrics making any sense.
It's NieR related, so it's canon according to Yoko Taro. Of course, the question would be how, where, and which ending? It got me thinking about Endwalker and how Meteion and her sisters explored world after world after world after world and only found death or dying worlds. By that logic, it's possible that our Earth, far into the future, was one of the worlds that they found somewhere in the timeline post Gestalt Project failure and possibly during the YorHa/Robot war after the aliens were dead as well. You then have 2B and 9S arguably leaving Earth on the robots' ship implied in one of the endings (B I think is where 9S is implied to leave and you've got 2B's memories and copies, etc), somehow crossing the rift to arrive on the First reflection of the Source. It takes a few leaps of logic, but there are dotted lines to connect XIV's NieR content in how it could logically be canon.... to one of the endings. But Yoko Taro says all collaborations of NieR are canon. We just can never know how until and unless he makes something that solidifies the answer to that question. Also, you've reacted to Close in the Distance already, but check out the concert performance of it: Close in the Distance - Eorzean Symphony: FINAL FANTASY XIV Orchestral Album Vol.3. The flower moment is something that can only happen in concert, live, with everyone else sharing that moment.
This is still my favorite raid theme to this day, the violin playing the FF main theme MMMM, also in regards to your question about 14 players that have never played Nier, this raid and the remake of the first game caused me to play both replicant and automata shortly after this raid series finished. I think personally replicant is a better game than automata, but both are amazing and broke me multiple times. ALSO ALSO 2B is becoming a character in the granblue fantasy fighting game in 4 days, and with that they're releasing a nier-granblue style track for her, so you should give that a listen after she comes out!
Not just one of my favorite raid themes, but one of my favorite themes in the game, period. All of the NieR Raids had great music, but especially here. I still remember the countless deaths of others from this fight. Not really from the mechanics difficulty, but from tears in their eyes. Lol
I absolutely love the Nierverse so going into these raids I was EXTREMELY excited when we got a new one. Then this one dropped and I just let out a loud "NOOOOOOO HE DIDNT" when this phase started. Not only is it a nier reference (obviously), but its also a HEAVY drakenguard call back which is what triggered Automata. Those first few bells, the cityscape, and the black/white rings being a callback to the final boss of Drakenguard 3 which canonically led into Automata. So this fight came out of absolutely nowhere and hit me like a freight train (lol) in the feels.
I think it's canon and one of the newer mobile(?) reference original characters from the raid series? I'm not actually big into Nier so this is second hand info, but I do know that a major character from XIV has a side story in one of the games
So you talking about singing in a made-up language reminded me of some of my favorite video game music, and I don't remember if you've reacted to anything from this game before or not: Ar Tonelico 2. Specifically, my favorites are METHOD_REPLEKIA, and all 4 parts of Sublimation.
While I wasn't too much of a fan of this as the last boss for the raid, (or any of the other last bosses) this song was something else. When the violins drop, it's pure magic. The Final Fantasy theme really knows how to punch you in the gut. I don't believe Uematsu-san had any active part in the creation of this song, it's just the usage of the FF theme gets credited to him whenever it's used. I want to say most of, if not all of the YoRHa Dark Apocalypse raid was a joint effort between Okabe and Soken. The raid was a bit of a retreading of the events of Automata, and then this boss kinda comes out of nowhere with references to Drakengard (3) and Gestalt/Replicant. A love letter to Drakengard and Nier, Kaine being the quintessential "Nier" song it makes sense they use it at the end of something more than once. Chaos language is never explicitly stated to be named as such in the games, Emi herself has named it as such when interviewed about it. Emi already had experience messing around with singing in gibberish, and when she worked on the first Nier with Okabe, he had the idea to have each song be based on a specific language so each song could have its own identity and to make it a little easier on Emi. Grandma 🤘
After playing Drakengard the bells at the start gave me Ending E PTSD, kinda wish the Nier Raid had more drakenguard references than just the last one but this final boss made me so happy.
The boss itself is heavily inspired from Drakengard, the series before Nier technically, and in that series, Singing is a form of magic, Adding that Kaine is the most well known lyrics song from Replicant, i think they put 2 and 2 together
As a 14 player, I LOVE the nier music that made it into the raids, however, the games themselves are depressing. Would I buy the soundtracks for Neir? Absolutely.
I love 14 and got into Nier because of this raid. Much like 14, the story is ultimately about hope, but you need to walk to the end to see it. Ending E of Automata is possibly the most brilliant example of using the medium of video games to tell a story I have ever seen.
4:15 It is apparently canon to Nier, from what I know of the people who have played Nier(I haven't finished Automata), but it is NOT canon to FF14, which has also stirred its own drama, because many people, while they love Nier, would have loved an original set of alliance raids that built on FF14's lore, instead of hamfisting something that is not canon to the game, but *is* canon to another game into FF14. But I guess thats Yoko Taro for you, shoving a canon ending to a game into *a completely separate franchise when allowed*
The way they did the crossover, there's no reason to doubt it being canon-friendly. Between the jumps between the Drakkengards and NieRs, fewer plot holes at least. It's almost a shame that it's otherwise so isolated compared to everything else in FF, and I think some people actively avoid the raids. It'd be interesting if there was some followup in the future, who knows.
I love both xiv and nier. Nier is more important for people to play, lol I loved when I did this raid series, my wife goes "are you still playing xiv? Sounds like you switched to nier, but I don't recognize this part" 🤣
I ultimately feel that the story of 14 was more lifechanging to me than Nier was, but it's a really hard sell- it's hundreds of hours of playtime before it fully pays off. It's around 80 for Nier.
@@Keira_Blackstone honestly, the time commitment is exactly why I place nier higher. Cause someone has to really want the payoff of 14. Most people who play games can get through nier and experience it But agree, xiv was a lot more impactful for me
On your questions about if/how Soken was involved, timing wise this was likely produced while Soken was in hospital undergoing cancer treatment, so it's likely he wasn't that involved.
You've had Runescape in your request list for a while - I think you should listen to it. It's the one MMO that easily matches FFXIV in music quality. 'The Shadow Colossus' has some of the best shredding I've ever heard in any video game music, and 'The Glory of Combat' also has fantastic guitar playing.
Did I hear correctly that you saw a performance live? How did you like it? I went to the live orcestra for Nier recently and i was overwhelmed by emotion throughout the entire second half. Hearing Kaine was so beautiful and seeing Emi and J'Nique perform was truly a blessing Edit: Ah, I'm impatient and didn't wait to hear you say you were there. I was too!
I know you loved your NIER (both games) experience. Shame you will likely never be able to enjoy playing FFXIV as I respect it's too much of a commitment for you. I do think you'd enjoy the NIER story in FFXIV. People have mixed opinions as some people dislike cross over content, but I personally liked it for what it was. It has all the dark themes you would expect. Plus let's be honest, it has the BEST sets for glamour in the game. You can do so much with all the outfits that drop in this raid. That's 99% of why people run it so frequently. Also fun fact, if you're paying attention during the fight, the building the boss throws at you at the start is the actual Square Enix HQ in Tokyo. Actually... To exploit your crush on Amanda Achen, she recently started streaming her play through of FFXIV on Twitch. Same handle on RUclips with Real Crystal Mommy. She's decided to lean into the community nick name and find out what the community that gives her so much love is all about.
I'm so excited to see your reaction to this! Just reading your messages in chat made me hope you were gonna make this video right here!! I always get hyped when I see someone encounter this raid for the first time and they're a NIER fan cuz it's just aaaaaa!
I remember BAWLING my eyes out when I first saw/heard this version and dying repeatedly to mechanics because I was 10000% overwhelmed. I am still bummed that I lost my VoD footage for the raid, but the memories will forever live on
Do you have another channel or am I going crazy? The last thing I remember seeing from you were Shadowbringers play through reactions and I'm seeing years of music reactions on your channel now instead.
@@TarundiMC You are not going crazy! Lol. Yes, I made a second channel for my Twitch VODs: @ZoDVODsofDoom
Another fun fact: That building she is throwing at us is actually the Tokyo HQ of Square Enix
The tears are a mechanic
"Is this canon, or is that a joke?"
Yes.
According to Yoko Taro, ANYTHING NIER RELATED IS CANON.
This man is crazy.
Yoko Taro on learning there is massive quantities of pornography of his lead character, 2B:
"Due to the 2B butt controversy, many outrageous drawings are being made. Collecting them to share individually is a pain. It would be great if we can group them together to make it easier to distribute them every week."
I knew he was nuts when I learned that he originally wanted the red orbs that permeate all 3 Nier raids to be instant raid wipes. As in, one person touches a single orb and all 24 people die. Yoshi-P had to tell him basically "uh, no, we can't do that"
The man is a master troll, so it's hard to know when he's being serious. On a FFXIV live letter, he mentioned he'd like to actually delete a datacenter in the way the character data can be deleted at the end of a NieR game.
@@CrashB111 Yoko Taro continuing to be based.
My favorite bit to note with the "anything Nier related is canon" thing combined with the XIV crossover is that it means Earth canonically exists in XIV lore now.
4:18 Yes, it is in fact canon. Yoko Taro himself went on record multiple times saying that EVERY collab that 2B ever was a part of is actually canon. Meaning that this raid series along with her appearing in games like Soul Calibur and more recently Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising are canon as well.
But... Like some have already said, the dude is also known to be massive troll, he loves to play coy and mess with people, so take that as you will lol.
Though I can definitely see the Nier: Automata crossover in FF XIV legitimately being canon, as we finally put an end to the main threat of the entire franchise up to that point, when said threat had up to that point been impossible to actually stop. Would be awesome if a future Automata game actually had 2B and/or 9S make a direct (albeit vague) reference to the Alliance Raids, such as them perhaps wondering if we were "humans" and if they had actually gotten to meet and fight alongside their "creators".
The FFXIV raid actually explains how all the other crossovers are canon too.
@@Dnomike Yup! The specific *thing* that shows up between parts 2 and 3 I think...? We get an explanation through that as to how all of the rest of the EVERYTHING showed up in FF14's world, and going back through the Nier/Drakengard timeline and tracing where that *thing* was seen in the past and what function it was shown to have before with new context, it all clicks together and more or less explains the overall cyclical nature of the timeline in a way I honestly really enjoy, even if you have to play an entirely different game from the rest of the series to experience it directly. But then again...... supplemental material introducing the story of No. 2 and No. 9 is uh........ kinda also important to what happens in the series and is *very* inaccessible through anything but the wiki. :')
To have this boss as the final one of the raids was, again, something that across brought me tears while playing it mostly because of the music. I recognised the bells similar to Drakengard, the series that spawned NIER - Kaine, being such a monumentally important song to NIER and then the violins of the main FF theme all in one. Like a culmination of everything, especially with the boss itself being a blend of Drakengard and NIER. Music hit hard.
I know ff iv, but not drakengard/ nier. I felt it somewhat.
Yeah, those bells are PTSD inducing for Drakengard fans. And when you understand What Her Inflorescence is you realize the true threat youre dealing with (for those who have beaten Endwalker yeah its about on line with that)
Without playing Nier, I still have to count this boss as one of my favorites with how unique the fight is. Like, having to dodge the Square Enix HQ being yeeted at you in the first minute of the phase is the single most memorable Alliance Raid mechanic in the entire game outside of perhaps getting sniped in Ivalice. Adding in the Red Girl Train Station and watching a quarter of the raid getting taken out by a passing metro train and it's just *chef's kiss*.
Every time I run this I always keep a joke line ready in Alliance chat so that immediately after the Square Enix HQ is thrown at us I yell: *"HEY! Throwing Square Enix HQ at us is cheating!"* Just to add a bit of humor to the whole thing. :P
I love to just have one or two silly remarks ready for certain boss runs for specific moves or bosses (and in the latter case I try to do it with bosses who may otherwise be really stressful for newbies running the instance blind for the first time in the hopes of helping to keep them from feeling too stressed if things go wrong. I've had to encourage and cheer up some newbies to Orbonne several times after wiping to Thunder God due to them not knowing what to do). I also don't "spoil" what given bosses do if we have newbies with us in the run (so I tend to get annoyed if there are people who just flat out tell newbies what to do without even asking them if they want to try the fight "blind" first....it's one thing if the newbies _ask_ first, it's another entirely to just outright spoil it without bothering to let them experience the run "blind" first), since I want to try and make sure they get to experience as much of the run "blind" as possible and see if they can pick up on what to do for certain mechanics. I usually wait to offer the tell them what to do until after we've had two or more wipes (provided we wipe at all, of course) to a specific boss.
And then comes Thaleia. While the music is nice, most mechanics there are MASSIVE disappointment. Too easy and no one single one-shot mechanics for the last tier alliance raid. Already stop doing it after two times and this month the raid is super dead. I do hope SE learns their lesson because I don't want this trend to continue to DT.
I love the way they slapped the main theme of the Final Fantasy series right into Kaine's theme and it fits perfectly.
It's an extremely adaptable theme :D
"Psychic Damage" is the only way to describe how it felt playing Automata for the first time, and reaching the location where Kaine's theme plays. Just made me shutdown and sit there for a bit.
On launch day for the final raid tier. People were saying the last fight actually had an added mechanic. Those who played through the end of Nier had to also do the fight while fighting back tears and cursing at Yoko Taro, hahaha.
that dun dun dun dun you hear at the beginning is a reference to Ending E from Drakengard 1/3, which is a hard as balls final boss fight
I. HEAR. A. SOUND.
Im getting Drakengard 1 and 3 PTSD again ; __ ;
It is crucially on the soundtrack 'Kaine (Final Fantasy Main Theme)', because that's the violin piece between verses.
I didn't even notice >_>_>_>
@@JessesAuditoriumThe bell tone "dun dun dun dun" is the chime from Drakengard Ending E as well.... "I. Hear. A. Sound."
It's the tone that ultimately resulted in the ruination of Earth after the goddess, Caim and Angelus fell through the portal to Earth.
@@JessesAuditorium (`>_>)\(
@@JessesAuditorium Now that I think about it I don't think you ever reacted to the FF Main Theme, at least the OG one. But you did heard it in 8 and 9, it's included in the end credits (and in other FFs as well but can't remember which one you played).
Chaos Language was made up by the composer Keiichi and the singer Emi. It's like what they think European languages will sound like in a thousand years. Not sure if it is mentioned in game.
That plus I believe I’ve also heard somewhere it was supposed to be so that the lyrics could be cinematic, but without distracting since they mean nothing, but who knows how true that is.
@@stitches1110 I feel like there's some slight reasoning behind the lyrics in a *way* but no *specific* meaning. Like... there's a vibe meant to be expressed through the lyrics and there's JUST enough in there with actual meaning- like the word Kaine is spoken in the song itself, and we don't know what that word means, but as it's also the name of a dramatically important character to the Nier franchise as a whole (and.... kindof Drakengard as well if my idea of her being a sort of echo of a particular violent protagonist of Drakengard 3......) that there's some intent to that song specifically being used. Cycles within cycles.
Anyway ADHD tangent over, in summary: I agree that the lyrics are more to evoke an emotion than specific meaning, and my added idea is that there is some slight direct meaning to a few words, but most is made up for the sound itself.
I love the bells in the beginning so much. Iirc, Her Inflorescence is a character/boss from Drakengard and the bells always tolled her coming - so to have them use it again for her appearance in the FF14 collab is so ... powerful? And I really love this arrangement in general because the FF14 (or was it FF in general?) "main theme" (the violin part) in it fits so wonderfully!
It's the FF theme in general, aptly titled "Prelude". It's been in every single game in the series since the very start in some shape or form, even most spinoffs.
@@smward87 It's not the Prelude, because that's what was used w/ Weight of the World. This is the Main Theme.
"Her Inflorescence" is unique to FF14 and is not from Drakengard or Nier. You're confusing this boss with the Queen Beast which are not the same.
@@gbtygfvyg ah, thank you! Might very well be!
@@gbtygfvygYes, Queen Beast is a different variation but Her Inflorescence is another version of Queen Beast. In short WoL stopped the Black Scrawl from corrupting through The First
Hey Jesse, all the final bosses of the Nier raids have Nier/FF combo. Raid 1, Weight of the World x Prelude, Raid 2, The Dark Collosus Destroys All x Torn from the Heavens, and this one being Kaine x FF Main Theme.
Its also Drakengard, for story spoiler reason for those games i wont say much, the bells in the song put fear in any Drakengard fans heart
@@iaxacs3801 I can't imagine the imagery as those bells drop helps either. He was really going for the Drakengard E vibes with that boss. Just glad the "mechanics" from that fight were severely toned down in their XIV incarnation.
This piece of music is so amazing. The moment I hear those opening chime I get chills. The chime motif is a huge clue into what's happening in this boss fight if you played Drakengard. Then the way they weave in the FF main theme. I can't get enough of this.
Hearing Kaine sung live was incredible. Managed to snag tickets to the UK concert, 0 regrets. Glad you enjoyed it too!
This song makes you feel warm and like you're being hugged which, by the time the FF leimotif comes in, just hits you twice as hard from making you remember the first time you heard that leimotif in your younger days.
It's trying to recall you to a time long past, make you remember the warmth of those days and the magic that came from discovering both FF and NIER.
According to Yoko Taro everything Nier is related to or features in is canon lol. But he's also known to be quite a troll.
My favorite Yoko Taro troll was with character design in SinOfAlice. 'We need to show skin in the summer update!' Yoko Taro puts Dorothy in a Big Daddy diving suit.
@@hmgirlpopuri5819 ah a fellow Dorothy Cleric appreciator.
It is heartwarming to see you more integrated with the gaming community and/or viewers in equal measure more and more with the bridge being both sides' passion for music 🎶♥
The bells came directly from Drag-on Dragoon 1. It is a sound tha traumatized many as that's the very sound of the final boss rhythm game.
I am traumatized by the Flower itself from getting the drakengard 3 platinum. This song and fight simultaneously brought me to tears and drowned me in SEVERE PTSD.
I feel your pain, confronting this boss caused me to remember my own experience with the flower in drakengard 3. After hearing the bells I even said we're doomed.
@@jamesmetcalf5597 every time, I flash back to my 1st playthrough of drakengard 3, reaching Branch D and finding that cursed field of flowers and a 'Zombie' Five....the flowers alone were a very BAD sign that forever haunts me
@@craigfunk3453I want to play the final stage of D3 SO BADLY. I love rhythm games, I'm good at them.... but I don't know how to get my hands on the game lol.
@@KZorander i wouldn't exactly call that final 'stage' anything remotely 'Fair'. No checkpoints, constantly changing rhythms, and some final 'screw you' notes after everything goes black which ruins everyone's day.
I played it a long while back as a digital download on my PS3
I cried, when i heard the final fantasy theme with those notes on violin.
Every time
The power of a minor key...
You asked if it's canon, and the answer is yes, to both FF14, AND to Nier Automata. Yoko Taro is a madman, and I'm fairly sure he'd put canon lore on the back of a one week run of milk cartons in Brazil if Square Enix would let him. Soul Calibur 6, Granblue, FF, an orchestral performance only in Japan... Man is SPREAD WIDE on lotsa places.
She throws the Square Enix HQ Building at you during the fight too!
Also, it's nice to see you 'marking out' and excited over a song. :>
This alliance raid was nuts. I forget half the mechanics, die a million times, and still have a fun time.
I started in 5.25 so this was the first raid that dropped after I got to endgame. I know this raid better than any other raid in the game just from being there day one. I love the chaos of it. I love the mass death and destruction. Healer main LMAO
This song was so powerful. Having played 14 before Nier, this song was the big thing that made me want to play through both Nier games. I'm so glad I did. And also wanting to understand at least something from the raid series.
I had played the first 24 man series, and it got me to play Automata before the second and third set came out.
Which made my hype go off the charts playing those raid series on patch day, because I basically became the Wojak pointing meme when you get to the Alien Ship in The Puppet's Bunker, cause I'm thinking Adam and Eve are coming up. Then doing it even harder on the entire final series cause so many of the bosses were Drakenguard references. And the final song.
this song gives me shivers every time man
"Her Inflorescence" is the boss name. The track name, per the in-game orchestrion roll, is "Kainé (Final Fantasy Main Theme Version)". Chaos language is the name given to the language Emi Evans created for the games, though I think it's an unofficial name. There are a few variants of it, such as English, Japanese, French, and Gaelic. It's supposed to represent language as it would sound in the future- slightly like the languages it's modeled off, but not enough to understand it. The one exception to this is "Song of the Ancients", with Emi has said is a mish mash of language types that was basically her first attempt at Chaos language.
I think Chaos Language is more or less a descriptor more than a specific name, but otherwise what you said is fairly correct.
i love this song so much, i got one of the music boxes too, i got the kanie/salvation one though, it is such a somber and haunting song
I'm shocked you haven't done this one already. I played this raid on release and there were lots of wipes purely from how emotional so many people - myself included - got from the music.
I’ve never played nier but every time I do this boss in XIV I get crazy goosebumps it’s soooooooo good
I gotta get on it!!
worth, avoid all spoilers
To paraphrase a comment I saw on another video about this song...
Nier automata players: This is pretty!
Nier Gestalt/Replicant players: OMG my heart!!
Drakengard players: *Vietnam flashbacks*
So glad you reacted to this gorgeous song played in such a fantastic fight! And yeah I don't believe they ever mention "chaos language" in game, its just something you find out when digging into it.
You forgot the other Drakengard reaction:
"Well well well, SOMEONE finally came to the wrong neighborhood."
I never played Drakengard, but the Nier games and man this theme was such a nice surprise for me the first time I reached this fight.
The Nier collab is the raid series I love replaying the most in FF14, because the entire thing is such a vibe with the fantastic soundtrack and combat encounters.
This song shows the emotional power music can have. Putting the crystal theme in there in a minor key on the violin just gives me goosebumps. The entire song is beautiful but the violin is haunting.
Man, this song. I died so much from this boss on my first time because of this music. Even my healer at the time said they can't heal emotional damage 😂
Any Drakengard/NieR veterans were in tears and suffering PTSD simultaneously while dealing with this raid. So many wipes happened, but it was all in the name of overcoming the tears and listening to the song for longer
Looking forward to "Athena, The Tireless" to conclude the Pandemonium saga.
Being embraced by such beauty while locked in mortal combat....
Damn good raid series.
Love this in the original game. Love this in FFXIV. Absolute gem. Absolute jam.
The music is so angelic and calm and so utterly chill in complete contrast to the panic and franticness (is that a word?) of the fight.
They used this one I think because it was one they could tie in a Minor Key version of the Final Fantasy Main Theme with. The final boss music of each of the 3 raids was a mixup between Nier and FF music. Kaine with FF Main theme for The Tower at Pardigm's Breach, Dark Colossus with Torn from the Heavens for Puppet's Bunker, and Weight of the World with the Prelude for Copied Factory. The rest of the music in the Nier raids was verbatim, but these 3 were special.
Ah man, i'm so happy you're listening to this verison. I absolutely adore this song. The entire Nier 24 Man Raids of the Shadowbringers expansion was an absolute trip to experience as a first timer. This finale being the ultimate culmination of ot all as despite never playing Drakengard or Nier, this song still hit someplace inside me. Someplace strange yet oddly familiar, as if my mind was trying to recall memories I know i never had.
The Nier raid osts are just Nier music (Replicant and Automata) thrown into 14, aside from the 3 raids final bosses: First one is Weight of the World (Prelude Version), 2nd is Dark Colossus like you mentioned, and the third is this one. Surprised it took so long for you to get to this one actually lol, I guess it's not as full of energy or catchy as the other two.
Speaking of crossovers, I didn't know you knew Zor, I love her stream!
I hope you find time to play 14 someday. This was some of the most unique side content in the game and i wish they made it longer. Its really amazing how they seamlessly tie totally unrelated games/stories in to FF14. p.s. good job Zordon! She really is awesome! ^.^
We might be able to bribe him into playing it.. But we'd have to pay him x amount xD
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@@consumablecorner150 that might be an amount none of us can afford lol.
I'm thinking he could set up a separate fund, and when it filled up to a certain amount he'd play it for x hours.
As much as I like Nier, the nier raid was kinda boring to me, but to each his own!
@@consumablecorner150 thats not a terrible idea, but i'd prefer people play on their own time/terms and not have to feel obligated to play it, even if they would enjoy the crap out of it. XD
Jesse The Bells at the Start of the Song is a Huge Call Back to Drakengard 1 the First Game of Yoko Taros which is the One that Started Nier. i Love it is Taking Drakengard , Nier & FF Tracks and Put them Together.
Good ole queen beast
@@CodeeXD Indeed Drakengard 1 Has Some Good Tracks Thanks Queen Beast
even to this day, the FF theme coming in chokes me up. It was difficult clearing this raid when it was current, trying to see mechanics thru the tears
Fun fact! The raid this plays in was released before Nier Replicant's remake was, so because this uses that game's voice performance, this ended up being a nice little preview of its soundtrack.
I was happy to see you reacting to this song. HUGE fan of both franchises and what they did with this song was incredible. I must say that I love this encounter in FFXIV and sometimes I decided to do it just to listen to this song lol (and sing while wiping on mechanics because I was too focused on the music instead of the boss xD and boy, she hits like a train sometimes xD). About the chaos language, if I'm not wrong, it's not mentioned in game. Yoko Taro mentioned in an interview that they chose to go with this made up, mysterious language because they thought that if they used real words that might distract and take the player's attention from the game. From what I've read about, there was a whole creation process involving the team and Emi Evans , so it seems it was more of a creation thing than something justified in lore.
seeing jesse just go "ok" at the FF main theme strings is kinda funny lol
I didn't realize it's one of FF themes in the violin part.
I think it was Emi Evans herself who named it chaos language if i recall correctly. Also the bells at the very beginning of the song are a sample from a song in Drakengard 1 and they way they're used to create completely different vibes is really cool imo c:
Butter can flow if it is slightly melted.
What the hell I never heard this one
The Drakengard bells gave me PTSD
What am I doing? I don't know, I bought Neir, downloaded it and had the icon on the desktop, and then just never played it.
Well, I highly recommend it :)
THE BELLS!!!
"I like the bells," he says. Good thing he'll probably never play Drakengard, because that'd probably change *real* fast.
Oh dear lord Queen Grotesque fight T_T
I loved how they combined Final Fantasy with Nier both raidwise, and also in terms of music through that sad violin solo in Minor. And also those darn bells that would instantly give any Drakengard players PTSD upon hearing them.
Fun fact, after defeating the boss (that grotesque queen looking thing), there's no victory fanfare being played unlike other raids/dungeons, or even every other FF games after finishing a monster encounter. It's just you, your party, and the desolated cityscape of Japan. All you hear are the soft howl of the wind, knowing that you have just silenced the Mother's song, and you have brought Glory to Mankind.
Second fun fact: That first boss mechanic where there's a building being hurled from below you? That's the Square Enix building. Yoko Taro decided it's gonna be entertaining to see players being yeeted by Square themselves.
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I love that the final boss fight, the city is based off Drakengard 3 one of Yoko Taro's works.
Also the bells you hear at the start of the song, I've been told it's a motif from the Final Song ~ Black Song White Scales also from Drakengard 3.
I assure you, whenever I spawn into this Raid, I have two reactions:
First: Hell yes, NieR !!!
secnd: How will i dodge the tears in the last fight...!?
This raid was one of the reasons why i wanted to play ff14 online. Song is fire.
I had assumed that the fight with the most Emotional Vuln Stacks in the raid series would be whatever one had Weight of the World but BOY WAS I WRONG
Honestly, as a 14 player this raid series DID get me to play Nier: Automata! Just for the music if nothing else :)
The slightly discordant bells remind me a lot of "Black Song" from Drakengaard 3 or the music during the Queen Beast fight of Drakengaard 1, mixed in with the Kaine music from Nier: Gestalt/Replicant.
Chaos Language isn't something from ingame, but how it's creator Emi Evans calls it. It isn't a language like the LotR Elvish or Klingon from Start Trek. It's a collection of sounds meant to sound like a language, but carrying no inherent meaning, so you can just pick whatever sounds best without having to worry about the lyrics making any sense.
More FFXIV is always a win \o/
Those bells are extremely distressing if you've actually beaten Drakengard Ending E
EXTREMELY.
It's NieR related, so it's canon according to Yoko Taro. Of course, the question would be how, where, and which ending?
It got me thinking about Endwalker and how Meteion and her sisters explored world after world after world after world and only found death or dying worlds. By that logic, it's possible that our Earth, far into the future, was one of the worlds that they found somewhere in the timeline post Gestalt Project failure and possibly during the YorHa/Robot war after the aliens were dead as well. You then have 2B and 9S arguably leaving Earth on the robots' ship implied in one of the endings (B I think is where 9S is implied to leave and you've got 2B's memories and copies, etc), somehow crossing the rift to arrive on the First reflection of the Source.
It takes a few leaps of logic, but there are dotted lines to connect XIV's NieR content in how it could logically be canon.... to one of the endings.
But Yoko Taro says all collaborations of NieR are canon. We just can never know how until and unless he makes something that solidifies the answer to that question.
Also, you've reacted to Close in the Distance already, but check out the concert performance of it: Close in the Distance - Eorzean Symphony: FINAL FANTASY XIV Orchestral Album Vol.3.
The flower moment is something that can only happen in concert, live, with everyone else sharing that moment.
This is probably one of the few ff14 crossover songs where I prefer it without the prelude inserted.
This is still my favorite raid theme to this day, the violin playing the FF main theme MMMM, also in regards to your question about 14 players that have never played Nier, this raid and the remake of the first game caused me to play both replicant and automata shortly after this raid series finished. I think personally replicant is a better game than automata, but both are amazing and broke me multiple times. ALSO ALSO 2B is becoming a character in the granblue fantasy fighting game in 4 days, and with that they're releasing a nier-granblue style track for her, so you should give that a listen after she comes out!
I luckily played Nier before 14 so this was just amazing
Not just one of my favorite raid themes, but one of my favorite themes in the game, period. All of the NieR Raids had great music, but especially here.
I still remember the countless deaths of others from this fight. Not really from the mechanics difficulty, but from tears in their eyes. Lol
I absolutely love the Nierverse so going into these raids I was EXTREMELY excited when we got a new one. Then this one dropped and I just let out a loud "NOOOOOOO HE DIDNT" when this phase started. Not only is it a nier reference (obviously), but its also a HEAVY drakenguard call back which is what triggered Automata. Those first few bells, the cityscape, and the black/white rings being a callback to the final boss of Drakenguard 3 which canonically led into Automata. So this fight came out of absolutely nowhere and hit me like a freight train (lol) in the feels.
It's just lovely seeing your handsome face and enthusiasm for this
I think it's canon and one of the newer mobile(?) reference original characters from the raid series? I'm not actually big into Nier so this is second hand info, but I do know that a major character from XIV has a side story in one of the games
Love the reaction!
So you talking about singing in a made-up language reminded me of some of my favorite video game music, and I don't remember if you've reacted to anything from this game before or not: Ar Tonelico 2. Specifically, my favorites are METHOD_REPLEKIA, and all 4 parts of Sublimation.
While I wasn't too much of a fan of this as the last boss for the raid, (or any of the other last bosses) this song was something else. When the violins drop, it's pure magic. The Final Fantasy theme really knows how to punch you in the gut.
I don't believe Uematsu-san had any active part in the creation of this song, it's just the usage of the FF theme gets credited to him whenever it's used. I want to say most of, if not all of the YoRHa Dark Apocalypse raid was a joint effort between Okabe and Soken.
The raid was a bit of a retreading of the events of Automata, and then this boss kinda comes out of nowhere with references to Drakengard (3) and Gestalt/Replicant. A love letter to Drakengard and Nier, Kaine being the quintessential "Nier" song it makes sense they use it at the end of something more than once.
Chaos language is never explicitly stated to be named as such in the games, Emi herself has named it as such when interviewed about it. Emi already had experience messing around with singing in gibberish, and when she worked on the first Nier with Okabe, he had the idea to have each song be based on a specific language so each song could have its own identity and to make it a little easier on Emi.
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After playing Drakengard the bells at the start gave me Ending E PTSD, kinda wish the Nier Raid had more drakenguard references than just the last one but this final boss made me so happy.
The boss itself is heavily inspired from Drakengard, the series before Nier technically, and in that series, Singing is a form of magic,
Adding that Kaine is the most well known lyrics song from Replicant, i think they put 2 and 2 together
As a 14 player, I LOVE the nier music that made it into the raids, however, the games themselves are depressing. Would I buy the soundtracks for Neir? Absolutely.
I love 14 and got into Nier because of this raid. Much like 14, the story is ultimately about hope, but you need to walk to the end to see it. Ending E of Automata is possibly the most brilliant example of using the medium of video games to tell a story I have ever seen.
4:15 It is apparently canon to Nier, from what I know of the people who have played Nier(I haven't finished Automata), but it is NOT canon to FF14, which has also stirred its own drama, because many people, while they love Nier, would have loved an original set of alliance raids that built on FF14's lore, instead of hamfisting something that is not canon to the game, but *is* canon to another game into FF14. But I guess thats Yoko Taro for you, shoving a canon ending to a game into *a completely separate franchise when allowed*
The way they did the crossover, there's no reason to doubt it being canon-friendly. Between the jumps between the Drakkengards and NieRs, fewer plot holes at least. It's almost a shame that it's otherwise so isolated compared to everything else in FF, and I think some people actively avoid the raids. It'd be interesting if there was some followup in the future, who knows.
Weight of the world X Final fantasy Prelude I also a combination while this one is a mix of the Final Fantasy Theme and Kaine
I love both xiv and nier. Nier is more important for people to play, lol
I loved when I did this raid series, my wife goes "are you still playing xiv? Sounds like you switched to nier, but I don't recognize this part" 🤣
I ultimately feel that the story of 14 was more lifechanging to me than Nier was, but it's a really hard sell- it's hundreds of hours of playtime before it fully pays off. It's around 80 for Nier.
@@Keira_Blackstone honestly, the time commitment is exactly why I place nier higher. Cause someone has to really want the payoff of 14. Most people who play games can get through nier and experience it
But agree, xiv was a lot more impactful for me
On your questions about if/how Soken was involved, timing wise this was likely produced while Soken was in hospital undergoing cancer treatment, so it's likely he wasn't that involved.
Soken was actually working from hospital.
The chime/bells are from Drakengard 1
"If there's 14 people here who haven't played Neir what are you doing?" Playing ffxiv that's what.
I was literally watching reacts to this last night wondering if/when you'd get to it.
You've had Runescape in your request list for a while - I think you should listen to it. It's the one MMO that easily matches FFXIV in music quality.
'The Shadow Colossus' has some of the best shredding I've ever heard in any video game music, and 'The Glory of Combat' also has fantastic guitar playing.
I wonder if he caught the Drakengard and Final Fantasy references in this composition
Hi. Tsukuyomi (wayward daughter) is also nice to hear. Give it a try.
"This song better not awake something in me."
This song did in fact wake something in me*
Did I hear correctly that you saw a performance live? How did you like it? I went to the live orcestra for Nier recently and i was overwhelmed by emotion throughout the entire second half. Hearing Kaine was so beautiful and seeing Emi and J'Nique perform was truly a blessing
Edit: Ah, I'm impatient and didn't wait to hear you say you were there. I was too!
I like the FFXiV version of weight of the world
I know you loved your NIER (both games) experience. Shame you will likely never be able to enjoy playing FFXIV as I respect it's too much of a commitment for you. I do think you'd enjoy the NIER story in FFXIV. People have mixed opinions as some people dislike cross over content, but I personally liked it for what it was. It has all the dark themes you would expect. Plus let's be honest, it has the BEST sets for glamour in the game. You can do so much with all the outfits that drop in this raid. That's 99% of why people run it so frequently.
Also fun fact, if you're paying attention during the fight, the building the boss throws at you at the start is the actual Square Enix HQ in Tokyo.
Actually... To exploit your crush on Amanda Achen, she recently started streaming her play through of FFXIV on Twitch. Same handle on RUclips with Real Crystal Mommy. She's decided to lean into the community nick name and find out what the community that gives her so much love is all about.
I was extremely hyped about this battle because I really like Drakengard 1.
I like how, despite the song being from a character in Nier, the whole fucking set, boss, and it's mechanics, are pure Drakengard
what about reviewing FM Towns Princess maker 2 Battle Theme. one of the finest early battle theme out there
Haha I like trains *gets yeeted while rezing people*
what funny is that the boss is not from nier, its from drakengard
Oh that's why I didn't recognize it