Fun fact about Torn From the Heavens, it's one of Soken's personal favorites. He completed it early on in A Realm Reborn's development, when there was still doubt as to if they would succeed in relaunching the game and wondering if Yoshi P was up to the task. One of his comments about this is "It was during this time that I completed Torn from the Heavens-the emotion behind creating this song can only be described as, “just wait and see, we’re going to do this!”
Torn From The Heavens is definitely underrated. I'd say there's a few reasons why. 1) It's from ARR, so it's suuuper old. There are so many songs in this game so it's less likely for a very old song to get as much fanfare as newer stuff. 2) It's the "Warrior of Light is doing something cool" song, so it's been used quite a lot. 3) There are several versions of it that I think most people tend to like more. The Nier one is pretty badass but there's also From The Heavens which is a combination of Torn From The Heavens and The Maker's Ruin (which is basically the Warrior of Light's theme song) and is used for Omega when he is trying his hardest to replicate the Warrior of Light. The motif also shows up in Footfalls and probably a few other songs as well.
The variations here are really just other songs that have the WoL's leitmotif in them. That's probably the most recognizable part of the song, and it's what you hear all over the place any time a song connects back to the WoL in some way.
They keep bringing back Torn from the Heavens. It's in the Dawntrail main theme, in the Bridge. In the Trailer, it's the bit with Y'shtola and Thancred. > Unwind your heart and find your worries'll disappear > Here every trail is paved with hope > Tonight the stars align, our fortunes, are crystal clear > Now turn the page to tales untold
When they put 2B into Soulcalibur, they needed a player 2 version of her for mirror matches. They inverted her colors to make 2P, the one wearing white with black hair. So for the 14 crossover, they brought 2P in as a character.
@@theredknight1757ending E. Because the short set after E from 2B's perspective talks about her trying to revive 9s but failing because his data isn't on earth anymore
@@novustalks7525 Ah, I didn't know about the short. Thanks for that! But yeah, a lot of people don't realize the raid is an official follow-up to Automata and I love just how creative Yoko Taro had to be to make it actually work as one.
Ah yes....Her Inflorescense is quite the Spectacle not to mention she loves throwing the SE building at you. But is quite the severe PTSD/OH S***! Moment for those who know the lore of the flower from Drakengard
Torn From The Heavens is such a classic A Realm Reborn song! So many memories, I played the shit out of this content while it was current. It was used for quite a few bosses though, so while it's a good track I think over time players sort of think of it as a 'generic' battle track. You don't really think "Oh yeah, Ifrit's theme" or something, it's just one battle track among many. It's kind of crazy that the OST is so huge and amazing that even great tracks like this are overshadowed. Also congrats on 800!
I can't believe Jesse recommended a 14 song to himself, im so proud, they grow up so fast /s. Also for some background Torn from the Heavens is basically treated as the unofficial theme song to our character as it typically is played during large moments relating to us early on. Also before the dark colossus version released (which is my absolute favorite version as well) there was actually another version that some considered the "better" Torn from the Heavens, and that's From the Heavens from the omega raids as it's omega trying to copy us and our power, so it basically took "our song". TBH before the nier version, From the Heavens was my absolute favorite take on the song and I would highly recommend it. One last fun fact, I don't know if it's the exact orchestral version you heard, but the newest Ultimate raid in 14 is against Omega and for the special final phase they use an orchestral rendition of Torn from the Heavens as well.
@@thatrandom_canadian It is! While Torn from the Heavens isn't your character's theme, it still means a lot to Soken as he composed it right when they were working on ARR after 14's huge failure initially. He was quoted saying, "It was during this time that I completed Torn from the Heavens-the emotion behind creating this song can only be described as, 'just wait and see, we’re going to do this!'" Maker's Ruin was featured super prominently in a certain FFXIV expansion that I don't want to name drop for those who haven't played through it yet, but yes, it is the Warrior of Light's theme. 👀
While you people are fondly remembering this epic masterpiece of a song. Some of us are getting PTSD flashbacks to the first time we ran into that giant overpowered crab when this music began playing.
oh, yeah, isn't that a Doctor House reference? I remember fighting it and people slowly approached it, it was a nice experience because I was still a noob and people I never saw again went there just to help me or do the battle for themselves
For me, it was running into Lazy Laurence as a Lv25 Lancer and me thinking I could take him back in 2019. The boss very quickly showed me why I could not.
This brings back memories of MagickMan’s guides of 2.0 (Michael Byrne, at least I think that’s his first name). He and Happy used to do a joint podcast of 14 right before and throughout the initial release, but Byrne put out solo vids just like Haps, and his intro was this song jamming.
That overwhelming feeling you're getting? That sense like everything's coming together in musical form? Welcome to the experience every FFXIV player gets when that leitmotif hits where we least expect it. I thank Soken so much for making it happen.
I'm always blown away at how well the two songs mesh together. This whole raid series is legitimately their best series of 24mans, and the music accommodates it perfectly.
I was there on Day 1 when the Puppet's Bunker raid came out. I ran it with members of my FC and it blew me away at how good its music was, even without the context that playing Nier would have provided. And, yes, I managed to backflip off the platform in the first fight of the raid due to being a Red Mage. (Don't worry if you don't have time right now, FFXIV will still be there for you to try out when you do.)
Weight of the World Prelude brought me to tears during the boss when I recognised the mash up. I went into this raid expecting another mashup and I was thrilled to get to the end, I was not disappointed at all. I cannot believe just how well FFXIV's music went with NIER's. Then came the third.
What a wonderful experience! Hearing you talk about the things you love and your story discovering this song brings me so much joy. Soken has mentioned that Torn from the Heavens is one of his favorite songs he's composed. (As evidence of him hiding it in a few of his other songs.) The transition from Torn from the heavens into dark colossus is to this day still so impressive to me. You're in for a treat if u keep reacting to ff14 songs. You'll be able to pick out the tune. I hope u do hear "From the Heavens" someday ;) it's by far one my favorite tracks in the game. Stay well. And thank you again for your musical input. Happy 800!
"Really good earworm" Understatement of the century right there. It's the Final Fantasy Prelude as well as the Torn From the the Heavens leitmotif, which is one of the main XIV leitmotifs, appearing in many songs throughout the course of the game over the years.
Why are you thanking us for 800 videos man. That work was all you. Good job! (Also the white outfit is referred to as 2P, (2nd Player), and is the Soul Calibur alternate colour for 2B)
When those copied androids merged into a giant ball I was like; "That thing totally looks like Legion". Then the way they fell of the ball I was like; "Yeah that boss is definitely inspired by Legion"
I never played FF XIV or Nier, but I am familiar with this song because it was used in a FF XIV X Monster Hunter World crossover. Make that another franchise this song has crossed over into.
I absolutely love this song 😍 hear alot of version of this song in game it's the theme of (you the main character) afterall. They mix this in like here is (you) in this epic scenario! Love the nier mix soooo much. This is such a great choice and so glad you checked out distant worlds without any idea what any of the songs are lol. Congrats on 800 👏👏!!!!
I'm happy you got a chance to go to Distant Worlds. Don't worry, I didn't recognize every song either and I've been playing the games for over 25 years, lol. I recently went to a concert called A New World: intimate music from Final Fantasy that involved a small chamber orchestra with some percussion and a few extra instruments. It was more chill music and it was pretty sweet too. I love both of those songs you chose too. There are a couple of songs in the Nier raid series where they merged a song from both FFXIV and the Nier series. I think nobody ever suggested it because you've done so much FFXIV music that I've almost lost count of what you've done already. Anyway, I'm so happy for you that you've reached 800 videos. I've been watching you from almost the first, but I lurk more than comment. I've even watched you play Nier on Twitch. Good luck with your channels and keep it up!
This song, right here, was simply made for FF fans by Soken. While it is overused, it is quintessentially the Battle 1 song of FF14. In fact, I would go so far to say that ARRs sound track is a good reason why it drew a lot of people like me who played a lot of the old FFs into this game.
No matter how many times I hear dark colossus and no matter how many times they make remixes or mash ups with it, It will never fail to give me goosebumps. Tbh every nier music gives me that feeling.
Torn From The Heavens and The Maker's Ruin are generally considered to be the player, the Warrior of Light's boss theme. When it gets real, the boss hears this music playing as you get back up. Another one in this line are the themes from the Omega raids, Heartless and From The Heavens. We also get a minor chord version in Endwalker named From Below.
There are 3 of Nier raids in FFXIV. And they're all epic music for the fan of both series to get this amazing collaboration. 1. Weight of the world - Prelude / You had reacted to it. 2. Torn from the Heaven - Dark Colossus / This. 3. Kaine - Main Theme / I believe some one might had requested this and I believe it must be on the list somewhere. No way it isn't.
Very good video, i feel putting pascals village as the background track was really nice as well to contrast your thoughts, We are really very lucky to be able to enjoy all this great music nowadays
I completed these raids about a week ago so was so happy to see you react to this song! It's an amazing mix and is definitely going to be played in my FFXIV house! I would be BEGGING for a reaction to the raid's version of kaine however I feel the perfection of it would be lost to most because... Well to quote/paraphrase someone's comment from a video on it I saw. People who played automata: oh wow, so beautiful. People who played replicant/gestalt: oh god, my heart! People who played drakengard: Vietnam tier PTSD flashbacks!
Oh man congrats on the 800 videos, and thank you for all the work. The appeal to your videos is always to me, to watch someone with a different taste, and a different connection to music than I, that enjoys vgm so much??? Like the songs are both VERY good, but you were BLISSING OUT THERE x,D It is nice that you even after 800 videos love the thing you do, even though it might have changed in form and shaped, like my love to comics after the 300dreth page changed his shape and apperance. Like isn't it beautiful to be able to be in this world and to interact with the stuff people do? It is very impressive! Anyway both songs are VERY good, and I did not apprechiate from the heavens enough, because sometimes, good songs just get drowned out in the everything of a whole game with a LOT of good music.
Congratulations on 800! A great milestone, & if I wasn't heading to work, I'd pour one out for you. Regardless, you know how big the 14 OST is. There's so many songs, even we get choice paralysis on what to put into your queue. But there's still plenty of gems on offer. As for whether the Nier crossover is canon, yeah, it follows Automata Ending E+, but specifics can be relayed later. You did remark on how you heard more Replicant in this Colossus, despite the theme being Automata. That's intentional, I'd say. Lastly, I'd like to bring your attention to the existence of the sister concert program to Distant Worlds, which is called A New World. It's a more acoustic, intimate affair in comparison to that fully orchestrated production; it focuses more on guitar, string quartets & piano solos. Stuff that isn't meant to fill gigantic halls. If you're lucky, you might hear Torn From The Heavens piano solo. Very nice. Have a good one Jesse. See you in the comments, or the twitch channel.
One day, Jesse, you will have to play 14. I know you've said you don't have the time to devote to it, but a lot of this music hits soooo much deeper in context. I will also say that so far 14 has the best story in the series. You're missing out on it. I love that you're enjoying the music you hear from it all the same though.
I liken it to a big TV show. Like any long-running TV show, it has ups and downs. Good seasons with some bad episodes, bad seasons with some great episodes, moments that bore and moments that absolutely nail what they were going for. Most video games are more like movies: small, easily eaten in one sitting. I don't necessarily like the same moments as everyone else in the game - I am the one person in the world that doesn't like Shadowbringers - but the quality is VERY consistently excellent for something so big. I've never seen another story so *expansive.* It is a huge world, with so many characters, governments, moving pieces. That sense of scope is unseen in any other story, video game or otherwise.
Thank you for your reactions and analyses Jessie :) It's always so nice to watch your videos to see how you react to music from games I love or when you listen to something that's new for me too and I get to know it through your channel. Funny story that your story reminded me of. I've been a long time Final Fantasy VII and XV fan when I went to Distant Worlds a few years ago. While the whole experience was breathtaking it was Torn From the Heavens that made me feel like tears were stinging my eyes. It's such a beautiful piece! I didn't even know anything about FFXIV at the time (I came to know, play and love it later) but I found it funny that it was the same music that stuck with you the most as well :)
Glad you finally got around to this one! I remember this song came up one day during a Marbles stream shortly after the Automata playthrough (Edit: or maybe after the DW concert?) and you were like "I thought I covered all the Nier mashups already?" and I couldn't believe it hadn't been requested earlier too. Personally my favorite of the big mixes, my favorite Nier song and I love how well it got mixed into Torn from the Heavens. Congrats on 800! Here's to reaching 900, 1000, and more
I requested it to you way back when you listended to The Weight of the world/FF medley.This one is definitely one of the best music of FFXIV for me, and as a NieR fan too, i got blown away when i first listened it during the fight.
I always wondered why Dark colssus torn from the heavens never ended up on the channel, I ADORE that boss theme, it makes running puppets bunker so worth. The fight with 2P there is rad too.
I LOVE Torn From The Heavens and while going through your FF XIV videos awhile back, was also surprised it was never requested. Full disclosure: I have never played XIV but heard it for the first time in the now defunct mobile game Final Fantasy Record Keeper several years ago. The moment I heard it, it ended up on my playlist lol. I've never played Nier either, but can absolutely appreciate how complete that version makes the whole song feel. Now to add that one to my playlist as well! 😅 Anywho, excellent choices here, and congrats on hitting 800!! 🎉
Ah, yes... this raid-series has great music all around. And yes, even by FFXIV's ridiculously high standards, imo. "Weight of the World - Prelude Version" is great, too. Makes playing that raid even more fun. And "Torn from the Heavens" might be of my favorite encounter-themes from FFXIV. My all-time favorite is "Maker's Ruin", fittingly basically the Warrior of Light's theme, and all it's versions/remixes, but "Torn" is way up there, too.
Yeah, Torn from the Heavens is a bop. I remember finding a rip from the game for it long before the ARR soundtrack was released. It remains one of my favorite FF boss themes ever. It's just such an amazing track, pulling in its own melodies and adding in the Prelude motif during the song itself. So good.
Torn from the Heavens is good, it's a classic FF14 original, but probably overshadowed a bit by a lot of the expansion music. Not even done that Nier raid yet so it's the first time hearing that one!
As someone for whom the Final Fantasy Prelude theme was basically a childhood lullaby, you cannot IMAGINE how hard I popped off hearing its motif again in the form of Torn From the Heavens, and not even in Final Fantasy XIV. It was in Monster Hunter World, when fighting the Behemoth in the FFXIV crossover quest.
Congratz on 800 down. Mindblowing output tbh, i get how you havent had time to play 14, but i hope you get to one day especially with how much youve enjoyed the ost so far. I think it gets better with the expansions but even if you go slow in A Realm Reborn theres still some great peices to enjoy right out the gate. Cant wait for the top 20 nier video, loved the automata and ff9 vids but im partial to og ps3 Nier so super excited for it.
Torn from the Heavens is one of, if not the most, recurring leitmotif in 14. Its heard in so many tracks and remix so many different times. A couple.major ones off the top of my head are the Omega raids version From the Heavens, this one, its own little segment in Footfalls and The Maker's Ruin. It is considered the theme of "fighting giant robot" or just in general the Warrior of Light's personal theme. The players are so good we got our own theme and its so freaking epic.
That android in the white outfit is her own character, named 2P. She actually started out as an alt skin for 2B in SoulCalibur 6, a 3D fighting game. That alt skin was loved by the fandom so much that Yoko Taro made her a separate character entirely, a copy of 2B made by machine lifeforms who primarily appears in crossover content like Nier Reincarnation and here in FFXIV's YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse raid series
"i'm like tearing up a little" Ah yes, the true xiv music experience. There's a few songs from Endwalker and Shadowbringers that can just make me cry on command almost as soon as they start. Music is such a wonderful medium. 😁
I do love Torn From the Heavens, it's good to see someone analyze it on its own merits, since it often winds up fading into the background in FFXIV because it gets used quite a lot. It's sort of the 'insert epic battle music here' track for when a fight is big and important, but not QUITE important enough to have its own music.
It was probably not requested by patreon, but I am pretty sure it was posted in some comments, a year ago, but maybe not some stronlgy as others xD Torn from the Heavens for us is like Prelude, we listened it so many times in game, in so many situations, that we take it for granted :) Anyway, combining two awesome soundtracks into something new - that's a gift we got from this collaboration. happy you enjoyed it. Happy 800! Waiting for your reactions to music from last raid: - Favor - Rhythm of the Realm - Dedicated to Moonlight And this tuesday we get new patch (6.4) which means - more music for us! :D
We're crazy?! No you're crazy Jesse! Been a fun riding this VGM journey with you, looking forward to even more. I've been watching most of your videos (since I discovered the channel), and I've discovered all sorts of awesome music and cool new games. It's also been a blast to see you play through some of my favorite childhood games such as Legend of Dragoon. This is Fancy Oaf btw, look forward to the next 800 episodes. Hope to catch your stream again once life chills out a little.
It's a great song. I feel like I've heard it a million times playing FF14, but it's hype. I think it's underrated because it's a pretty common song early in the game, so it doesn't have that more unique impact like those boss/raid songs.
@@Llightmare oh for sure! I wasn’t saying I didn’t enjoy it. I’m actually quite sadistic when it comes to alliance raids. The more wipes the better (RIP Orbonne) But listening to this song still immediately takes me back to sheer chaos of running around trying to figure out the mechanics. I loved this whole raid
@@blakec8549 I honestly LIVE for patch day shenanigans. There is something to thrilling about going in to new content as a community rather than an individual. If that makes sense.
this was the video youtube showed me that told me you exist, i've gone back to watch the ffxiv playlist and i'm grateful, also i'll just watch this again... cause :)
This. This right here is just… Look, I can say as much as I want about theming and this and that. No, shaddup me, this song is dope regardless of what meaning you add or subtract from, this is one of the best combinations of music I’ve ever heard.
Torn From The Heavens is THE main theme of FFXIV, like the primo proper main theme of the ENTIRE game. I have no idea why no one requested it as you said, maybe because people want you to react to vocal themes more and forget that the pure instrumental soundtracks exist? It is indeed composed by Soken
Gratz on the 800 and gratz on the great pick, you just picked the OG FF XIV soundtrack gem, plus one of the best Nier Colab songs. Now you got to ear "From the Heavens", I'm kind of surprized you haven't already. Keep it up!
I remember hearing that "Torn From The Heavens" was Soken's favorite song he made for XIV. Not sure if it's true, but it's kind of the unofficial theme song for XIV and it's referenced a lot in later tracks.
Fun fact, torn from the heavens has INCREDIBLE throwbacks to classic ff soundtracks! First, it starts off with the strings playing prelude, the classic title screen theme for many ff titles. It sounds so grand compared to the usual calm, soothing harp renditions, so it goes over a lot of people's heads. Second, not long after prelude, the classic bassline intro from battle themes of older ff games plays at 3:10. I just think it's pr neat how these were composed, subtle enough for people to not notice when they first hear it, but it hits them like a TRUCK when they realize. disclaimer: i havent watched all the way through as of the time i made this comment
One of the most iconic tracks in FFXIV. It's not requested a lot because it's from ARR and used A LOT during the main scenario. The leitmotif is then used a lot in later expansions and pieces. Speaking of, you ABSOLUTELY NEED to listen to Ultima (The Primals). It also does this. It's essentially a remix of Ultima but turned up to 11 and has become one of the more memorable tracks in the game. Oh and the boss battles in plays in are throwbacks to FF7 which I think you will appreciate ;).
LOVE Torn From the Heavens, I'm surprised it hasn't been requested! I guess people are so used to it it gets taken for granted. Now that you've heard it, you may recognize its motif in a ton of other XIV tunes, especially in some of the final big boss fights. It's in the Endwalker trailer, for instance. It is basically considered the player character's theme song.
A classic at this point, I love how you can hear the FF prelude throughout as a foundation. It goes big and operatic in such a Final Fantasy style, and the remix figures out how to go even bigger.
Proud to say I'm one of the XIV nerds who has been keeping up with your channel! If there ever is a time where you listen to From the Heavens (Omega's phase 2 theme), I'd suggest doing so with Heartless (Omega's phase 1 theme)! To top it all off, From the Heavens was remade orchestrally by Square Enix, so you have options there too. Loving the channel, keep up the great content!
I was just thinking a few days ago that I need to suggest Torn From The Heavens since I really like it. Then I saw this and couldn't click fast enough.
The Nier songs that were specifically composed for the last bosses of the 3 nier raids are all total blasts blending XIV with Nier themes made by Okabe. This one is the second from Puppet's Bunker. The first one is from Copied Factory (weight of the world, prelude version), and the last one is from Tower at Paradigm's Breach (kainé, ff14 version).
That collaboration between Nier and FFXIV was my first contact ever with FFXIV, and it was a complete eargasm. It's what made me play it. I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
Congrats on this great milestone! I'm glad you liked it and it's great to see how much of a NieR fan you've become haha I'm glad it moved you and I appreciate the discussion
Torn From the Heavens is a pretty early song in the game that's at once uncommon enough to be memorable, but used often enough to not really have that 'big moment' feeling you can get with other songs in the game. For a XIV player it might be taken for granted, which is probably why it wasn't heavily requested.
Having loved nier automata enough to 100%, this set of raids were super hard and made me cry thinking on it more than once. And this track was epic. So glad you are able to appreciate it ;)
Re: From the Heavens It's great. Obviously it's related to Torn From the Heavens. I also have a bunch of conspiracy theories about the lore implications, but that's a tangent I really can't go off on, lol. Listen to the orchestral version - it plays in the superboss difficulty of Omega (which also gave you eScape) - and importantly, it has *lyrics* and there's a lot to dig into there but again, super long tangent. Also, the other two nier/ff14 songs are great too; Kaine (FF Main Theme Version), and Weight of the World (Prelude version). Both slap pretty hard. Also, as for why people don't recommend Torn from the Heavens, it's because it's from ARR (the "bad" [aka older and somewhat lackluster] part of the game), and it's also played a whole bunch but not so much in actual boss fights / bits you'll be replaying. It is, however, the *"main theme" for ff14* in that it's the song that got put in monster hunter for that crossover, and I think it was the first ff14 song to go on distant worlds, and it plays in climactic story moments, etc etc
Cool thing about the crossover version with Dark Colossus. Soken wasn't the orchestrator if I recall correctly, Okabe was the one in charge of the Nier crossover music. Hence why there's such an air of "can we beat this thing" and how the theme that represents overcoming the impossible clashing with theme of overwhelming despair. I like to think this crossover was the birthplace of Endwalker's story conflict.
Fun fact about Torn From the Heavens, it's one of Soken's personal favorites. He completed it early on in A Realm Reborn's development, when there was still doubt as to if they would succeed in relaunching the game and wondering if Yoshi P was up to the task. One of his comments about this is "It was during this time that I completed Torn from the Heavens-the emotion behind creating this song can only be described as, “just wait and see, we’re going to do this!”
Torn From The Heavens is definitely underrated. I'd say there's a few reasons why. 1) It's from ARR, so it's suuuper old. There are so many songs in this game so it's less likely for a very old song to get as much fanfare as newer stuff. 2) It's the "Warrior of Light is doing something cool" song, so it's been used quite a lot. 3) There are several versions of it that I think most people tend to like more. The Nier one is pretty badass but there's also From The Heavens which is a combination of Torn From The Heavens and The Maker's Ruin (which is basically the Warrior of Light's theme song) and is used for Omega when he is trying his hardest to replicate the Warrior of Light. The motif also shows up in Footfalls and probably a few other songs as well.
The variations here are really just other songs that have the WoL's leitmotif in them. That's probably the most recognizable part of the song, and it's what you hear all over the place any time a song connects back to the WoL in some way.
And the very last boss of Endwalker, won't give any name here :D
They keep bringing back Torn from the Heavens. It's in the Dawntrail main theme, in the Bridge. In the Trailer, it's the bit with Y'shtola and Thancred.
> Unwind your heart and find your worries'll disappear
> Here every trail is paved with hope
> Tonight the stars align, our fortunes, are crystal clear
> Now turn the page to tales untold
When they put 2B into Soulcalibur, they needed a player 2 version of her for mirror matches. They inverted her colors to make 2P, the one wearing white with black hair. So for the 14 crossover, they brought 2P in as a character.
Lol yeah. Yoko Taro is insane, but awesome. You know word strait from him that basically that whole FF14 raid tier is canon to the Nier universe.
@@Juan-Dering It's a follow-up to Ending C of Automata.
@@theredknight1757ending E. Because the short set after E from 2B's perspective talks about her trying to revive 9s but failing because his data isn't on earth anymore
@@novustalks7525 Ah, I didn't know about the short. Thanks for that! But yeah, a lot of people don't realize the raid is an official follow-up to Automata and I love just how creative Yoko Taro had to be to make it actually work as one.
@@theredknight1757 yeah it's absolutely nuts haha. I love it
My fav song from this NieR collab was the remix of “Kaine.” They mixed in the FF main theme into it and it it became my favorite version
That song is insane, definitely in my top 5
Ah yes....Her Inflorescense is quite the Spectacle not to mention she loves throwing the SE building at you. But is quite the severe PTSD/OH S***! Moment for those who know the lore of the flower from Drakengard
I legit can't hear Kaine any more with out humming the FF theme where it should go
@@craigfunk3453 imagine if they somehow were able to incorporate a dragon into that fight. That would’ve been neat 🤣
I actually teared up the first time I heard the collab remix of Kaine. Its definitely my favorite for the raid series.
Torn From The Heavens is such a classic A Realm Reborn song! So many memories, I played the shit out of this content while it was current. It was used for quite a few bosses though, so while it's a good track I think over time players sort of think of it as a 'generic' battle track. You don't really think "Oh yeah, Ifrit's theme" or something, it's just one battle track among many. It's kind of crazy that the OST is so huge and amazing that even great tracks like this are overshadowed. Also congrats on 800!
It's perfect for remixing though! :D
Endwalker reveals its closer to the WoL's theme tho.
I can't believe Jesse recommended a 14 song to himself, im so proud, they grow up so fast /s. Also for some background Torn from the Heavens is basically treated as the unofficial theme song to our character as it typically is played during large moments relating to us early on. Also before the dark colossus version released (which is my absolute favorite version as well) there was actually another version that some considered the "better" Torn from the Heavens, and that's From the Heavens from the omega raids as it's omega trying to copy us and our power, so it basically took "our song". TBH before the nier version, From the Heavens was my absolute favorite take on the song and I would highly recommend it. One last fun fact, I don't know if it's the exact orchestral version you heard, but the newest Ultimate raid in 14 is against Omega and for the special final phase they use an orchestral rendition of Torn from the Heavens as well.
Pretty sure Maker's Ruin has basically been all but stated as the WoL's theme, Torn from the Heavens is just a general early battle theme.
@@thatrandom_canadian It is! While Torn from the Heavens isn't your character's theme, it still means a lot to Soken as he composed it right when they were working on ARR after 14's huge failure initially. He was quoted saying, "It was during this time that I completed Torn from the Heavens-the emotion behind creating this song can only be described as, 'just wait and see, we’re going to do this!'" Maker's Ruin was featured super prominently in a certain FFXIV expansion that I don't want to name drop for those who haven't played through it yet, but yes, it is the Warrior of Light's theme. 👀
While you people are fondly remembering this epic masterpiece of a song. Some of us are getting PTSD flashbacks to the first time we ran into that giant overpowered crab when this music began playing.
It's not lupis
oh, yeah, isn't that a Doctor House reference?
I remember fighting it and people slowly approached it, it was a nice experience because I was still a noob and people I never saw again went there just to help me or do the battle for themselves
For me, it was running into Lazy Laurence as a Lv25 Lancer and me thinking I could take him back in 2019.
The boss very quickly showed me why I could not.
Costa del Sol Master
This brings back memories of MagickMan’s guides of 2.0 (Michael Byrne, at least I think that’s his first name). He and Happy used to do a joint podcast of 14 right before and throughout the initial release, but Byrne put out solo vids just like Haps, and his intro was this song jamming.
I can't believe no one has requested Torn from the Heavens, it's such a classic in FFXIV, like before the game blew up classic.
That overwhelming feeling you're getting? That sense like everything's coming together in musical form? Welcome to the experience every FFXIV player gets when that leitmotif hits where we least expect it. I thank Soken so much for making it happen.
I'm always blown away at how well the two songs mesh together. This whole raid series is legitimately their best series of 24mans, and the music accommodates it perfectly.
Holy crap, Jesse, congrats on 800!! It's been quite the journey since your Dragonsong and Answers reactions. Here's to another 800?! :D
I was there on Day 1 when the Puppet's Bunker raid came out. I ran it with members of my FC and it blew me away at how good its music was, even without the context that playing Nier would have provided.
And, yes, I managed to backflip off the platform in the first fight of the raid due to being a Red Mage.
(Don't worry if you don't have time right now, FFXIV will still be there for you to try out when you do.)
Weight of the World Prelude brought me to tears during the boss when I recognised the mash up. I went into this raid expecting another mashup and I was thrilled to get to the end, I was not disappointed at all. I cannot believe just how well FFXIV's music went with NIER's.
Then came the third.
What a wonderful experience! Hearing you talk about the things you love and your story discovering this song brings me so much joy. Soken has mentioned that Torn from the Heavens is one of his favorite songs he's composed. (As evidence of him hiding it in a few of his other songs.) The transition from Torn from the heavens into dark colossus is to this day still so impressive to me. You're in for a treat if u keep reacting to ff14 songs. You'll be able to pick out the tune. I hope u do hear "From the Heavens" someday ;) it's by far one my favorite tracks in the game. Stay well. And thank you again for your musical input. Happy 800!
"Really good earworm"
Understatement of the century right there.
It's the Final Fantasy Prelude as well as the Torn From the the Heavens leitmotif, which is one of the main XIV leitmotifs, appearing in many songs throughout the course of the game over the years.
Why are you thanking us for 800 videos man. That work was all you. Good job!
(Also the white outfit is referred to as 2P, (2nd Player), and is the Soul Calibur alternate colour for 2B)
When those copied androids merged into a giant ball I was like; "That thing totally looks like Legion". Then the way they fell of the ball I was like; "Yeah that boss is definitely inspired by Legion"
I never played FF XIV or Nier, but I am familiar with this song because it was used in a FF XIV X Monster Hunter World crossover. Make that another franchise this song has crossed over into.
This is canon to the nier timeline lol
I absolutely love this song 😍 hear alot of version of this song in game it's the theme of (you the main character) afterall. They mix this in like here is (you) in this epic scenario! Love the nier mix soooo much. This is such a great choice and so glad you checked out distant worlds without any idea what any of the songs are lol. Congrats on 800 👏👏!!!!
I'm happy you got a chance to go to Distant Worlds. Don't worry, I didn't recognize every song either and I've been playing the games for over 25 years, lol. I recently went to a concert called A New World: intimate music from Final Fantasy that involved a small chamber orchestra with some percussion and a few extra instruments. It was more chill music and it was pretty sweet too. I love both of those songs you chose too. There are a couple of songs in the Nier raid series where they merged a song from both FFXIV and the Nier series. I think nobody ever suggested it because you've done so much FFXIV music that I've almost lost count of what you've done already. Anyway, I'm so happy for you that you've reached 800 videos. I've been watching you from almost the first, but I lurk more than comment. I've even watched you play Nier on Twitch. Good luck with your channels and keep it up!
This song, right here, was simply made for FF fans by Soken. While it is overused, it is quintessentially the Battle 1 song of FF14. In fact, I would go so far to say that ARRs sound track is a good reason why it drew a lot of people like me who played a lot of the old FFs into this game.
And the whole crossover is ao nice. 3rd raid song is light but beautiful. Enjoy it when the time comes
No matter how many times I hear dark colossus and no matter how many times they make remixes or mash ups with it, It will never fail to give me goosebumps. Tbh every nier music gives me that feeling.
Torn From The Heavens and The Maker's Ruin are generally considered to be the player, the Warrior of Light's boss theme. When it gets real, the boss hears this music playing as you get back up. Another one in this line are the themes from the Omega raids, Heartless and From The Heavens. We also get a minor chord version in Endwalker named From Below.
I like to joke that the second half of the fight is because Yoko Taro saw the Calcabrina fight and said "I can do better".
Congratulations on 800!!!! I can't believe nobody requested this. It's one of my absolute favorites. ❤️
Now he's gotta listen to the orchestral version that plays during Final Omega
There are 3 of Nier raids in FFXIV. And they're all epic music for the fan of both series to get this amazing collaboration.
1. Weight of the world - Prelude / You had reacted to it.
2. Torn from the Heaven - Dark Colossus / This.
3. Kaine - Main Theme / I believe some one might had requested this and I believe it must be on the list somewhere. No way it isn't.
Very good video, i feel putting pascals village as the background track was really nice as well to contrast your thoughts,
We are really very lucky to be able to enjoy all this great music nowadays
I completed these raids about a week ago so was so happy to see you react to this song! It's an amazing mix and is definitely going to be played in my FFXIV house!
I would be BEGGING for a reaction to the raid's version of kaine however I feel the perfection of it would be lost to most because... Well to quote/paraphrase someone's comment from a video on it I saw.
People who played automata: oh wow, so beautiful.
People who played replicant/gestalt: oh god, my heart!
People who played drakengard: Vietnam tier PTSD flashbacks!
Oh man congrats on the 800 videos, and thank you for all the work.
The appeal to your videos is always to me, to watch someone with a different taste, and a different connection to music than I, that enjoys vgm so much???
Like the songs are both VERY good, but you were BLISSING OUT THERE x,D
It is nice that you even after 800 videos love the thing you do, even though it might have changed in form and shaped, like my love to comics after the 300dreth page changed his shape and apperance. Like isn't it beautiful to be able to be in this world and to interact with the stuff people do? It is very impressive!
Anyway both songs are VERY good, and I did not apprechiate from the heavens enough, because sometimes, good songs just get drowned out in the everything of a whole game with a LOT of good music.
That fight with Dark Colossus and that music is so much fun. The Epicness and feeling of fighting that boss as this music plays is incredibly fun.
Congratulations on 800! A great milestone, & if I wasn't heading to work, I'd pour one out for you. Regardless, you know how big the 14 OST is. There's so many songs, even we get choice paralysis on what to put into your queue. But there's still plenty of gems on offer.
As for whether the Nier crossover is canon, yeah, it follows Automata Ending E+, but specifics can be relayed later. You did remark on how you heard more Replicant in this Colossus, despite the theme being Automata. That's intentional, I'd say.
Lastly, I'd like to bring your attention to the existence of the sister concert program to Distant Worlds, which is called A New World. It's a more acoustic, intimate affair in comparison to that fully orchestrated production; it focuses more on guitar, string quartets & piano solos. Stuff that isn't meant to fill gigantic halls. If you're lucky, you might hear Torn From The Heavens piano solo. Very nice. Have a good one Jesse. See you in the comments, or the twitch channel.
One day, Jesse, you will have to play 14. I know you've said you don't have the time to devote to it, but a lot of this music hits soooo much deeper in context. I will also say that so far 14 has the best story in the series. You're missing out on it. I love that you're enjoying the music you hear from it all the same though.
14 has my favorite story in any videogame. I won't say it's objectively the best. But you get so deep into it.
He wouldn't even have to play everyday, couples hours here and there with the occasional long play. A few years of content 😂
its a huge undertaking. I think he should play smaller games and get broader experiences
I liken it to a big TV show. Like any long-running TV show, it has ups and downs. Good seasons with some bad episodes, bad seasons with some great episodes, moments that bore and moments that absolutely nail what they were going for. Most video games are more like movies: small, easily eaten in one sitting.
I don't necessarily like the same moments as everyone else in the game - I am the one person in the world that doesn't like Shadowbringers - but the quality is VERY consistently excellent for something so big. I've never seen another story so *expansive.* It is a huge world, with so many characters, governments, moving pieces. That sense of scope is unseen in any other story, video game or otherwise.
@@TheWickedWizardOfOz1 This exactly. There's something in it for everyone to both loathe and enjoy. Well worth the effort to progress through.
Congratulations on 800! Fantastic video for it!
My fave is still the third one, Kaine/Main theme mix..
Thank you for your reactions and analyses Jessie :) It's always so nice to watch your videos to see how you react to music from games I love or when you listen to something that's new for me too and I get to know it through your channel.
Funny story that your story reminded me of. I've been a long time Final Fantasy VII and XV fan when I went to Distant Worlds a few years ago. While the whole experience was breathtaking it was Torn From the Heavens that made me feel like tears were stinging my eyes. It's such a beautiful piece! I didn't even know anything about FFXIV at the time (I came to know, play and love it later) but I found it funny that it was the same music that stuck with you the most as well :)
Glad you finally got around to this one! I remember this song came up one day during a Marbles stream shortly after the Automata playthrough (Edit: or maybe after the DW concert?) and you were like "I thought I covered all the Nier mashups already?" and I couldn't believe it hadn't been requested earlier too. Personally my favorite of the big mixes, my favorite Nier song and I love how well it got mixed into Torn from the Heavens.
Congrats on 800! Here's to reaching 900, 1000, and more
Perfect song combo for your 800th! Happy to see you doing well, Jesse. See you for many more
Yes, everyone says its different from his other pieces. It drops from no where, as like from heaven.
I requested it to you way back when you listended to The Weight of the world/FF medley.This one is definitely one of the best music of FFXIV for me, and as a NieR fan too, i got blown away when i first listened it during the fight.
I always wondered why Dark colssus torn from the heavens never ended up on the channel, I ADORE that boss theme, it makes running puppets bunker so worth. The fight with 2P there is rad too.
Felt CHILLS when that Nier mix kicked in!
I LOVE Torn From The Heavens and while going through your FF XIV videos awhile back, was also surprised it was never requested. Full disclosure: I have never played XIV but heard it for the first time in the now defunct mobile game Final Fantasy Record Keeper several years ago. The moment I heard it, it ended up on my playlist lol. I've never played Nier either, but can absolutely appreciate how complete that version makes the whole song feel. Now to add that one to my playlist as well! 😅
Anywho, excellent choices here, and congrats on hitting 800!! 🎉
Ah, yes... this raid-series has great music all around. And yes, even by FFXIV's ridiculously high standards, imo. "Weight of the World - Prelude Version" is great, too. Makes playing that raid even more fun.
And "Torn from the Heavens" might be of my favorite encounter-themes from FFXIV. My all-time favorite is "Maker's Ruin", fittingly basically the Warrior of Light's theme, and all it's versions/remixes, but "Torn" is way up there, too.
Yeah, Torn from the Heavens is a bop. I remember finding a rip from the game for it long before the ARR soundtrack was released. It remains one of my favorite FF boss themes ever. It's just such an amazing track, pulling in its own melodies and adding in the Prelude motif during the song itself. So good.
Torn from the Heavens is good, it's a classic FF14 original, but probably overshadowed a bit by a lot of the expansion music. Not even done that Nier raid yet so it's the first time hearing that one!
Now fitting to this, "From the Heavens" (Omega 12 savage boss music). It's also a "remix" of "Torn from the Heavens".
As someone for whom the Final Fantasy Prelude theme was basically a childhood lullaby, you cannot IMAGINE how hard I popped off hearing its motif again in the form of Torn From the Heavens, and not even in Final Fantasy XIV. It was in Monster Hunter World, when fighting the Behemoth in the FFXIV crossover quest.
Congratz on 800 down. Mindblowing output tbh, i get how you havent had time to play 14, but i hope you get to one day especially with how much youve enjoyed the ost so far. I think it gets better with the expansions but even if you go slow in A Realm Reborn theres still some great peices to enjoy right out the gate.
Cant wait for the top 20 nier video, loved the automata and ff9 vids but im partial to og ps3 Nier so super excited for it.
Torn from the Heavens is one of, if not the most, recurring leitmotif in 14. Its heard in so many tracks and remix so many different times. A couple.major ones off the top of my head are the Omega raids version From the Heavens, this one, its own little segment in Footfalls and The Maker's Ruin. It is considered the theme of "fighting giant robot" or just in general the Warrior of Light's personal theme. The players are so good we got our own theme and its so freaking epic.
I just noticed how Torn from the heavens could easily be a Final Fantasy XII song. Absolutely love it.
There is a version of this song that is done in the style of Doom and it is probably my favorite pump up song!
With how much you enjoyed the original Dark Colossus songs, I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on this one.
That android in the white outfit is her own character, named 2P. She actually started out as an alt skin for 2B in SoulCalibur 6, a 3D fighting game. That alt skin was loved by the fandom so much that Yoko Taro made her a separate character entirely, a copy of 2B made by machine lifeforms who primarily appears in crossover content like Nier Reincarnation and here in FFXIV's YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse raid series
"i'm like tearing up a little" Ah yes, the true xiv music experience. There's a few songs from Endwalker and Shadowbringers that can just make me cry on command almost as soon as they start. Music is such a wonderful medium. 😁
I went to Distant Worlds myself this year, after which I appreciate this piece a lot more
I do love Torn From the Heavens, it's good to see someone analyze it on its own merits, since it often winds up fading into the background in FFXIV because it gets used quite a lot. It's sort of the 'insert epic battle music here' track for when a fight is big and important, but not QUITE important enough to have its own music.
It was probably not requested by patreon, but I am pretty sure it was posted in some comments, a year ago, but maybe not some stronlgy as others xD Torn from the Heavens for us is like Prelude, we listened it so many times in game, in so many situations, that we take it for granted :)
Anyway, combining two awesome soundtracks into something new - that's a gift we got from this collaboration.
happy you enjoyed it. Happy 800!
Waiting for your reactions to music from last raid:
- Favor
- Rhythm of the Realm
- Dedicated to Moonlight
And this tuesday we get new patch (6.4) which means - more music for us! :D
Grats on ep800! What a banger to celebrate it too~
We're crazy?! No you're crazy Jesse!
Been a fun riding this VGM journey with you, looking forward to even more.
I've been watching most of your videos (since I discovered the channel), and I've discovered all sorts of awesome music and cool new games.
It's also been a blast to see you play through some of my favorite childhood games such as Legend of Dragoon.
This is Fancy Oaf btw, look forward to the next 800 episodes. Hope to catch your stream again once life chills out a little.
It's a great song. I feel like I've heard it a million times playing FF14, but it's hype. I think it's underrated because it's a pretty common song early in the game, so it doesn't have that more unique impact like those boss/raid songs.
3:33 that's because it is a Uematsu piece.
EDIT: The wikia is saying it is Soken, so I might be wrong in this one.
I originally thought it was Uematsu as well, but I think it actually is Soken based on a Twinfinite interview he did a few years back.
This raid was a three part series. All featured Nier music (NO spoilers on which ones) and they were all fantastic
Happy 800th!
This song gives me PTSD from running this patch day. This raid boss was so chaotic and crazy and the theme only amped it up x10
come on it was funny on patch day. The boss before was definetly worse xD people still manage to wipe there xD
Dude this series was so fun day one. I almost quit tanking
Figuring out those fences, while joking about catching as many vuln stacks as humanly possible will forever be one of my favorite memories in 14 lol
@@Llightmare oh for sure! I wasn’t saying I didn’t enjoy it. I’m actually quite sadistic when it comes to alliance raids. The more wipes the better (RIP Orbonne) But listening to this song still immediately takes me back to sheer chaos of running around trying to figure out the mechanics. I loved this whole raid
@@blakec8549 I honestly LIVE for patch day shenanigans. There is something to thrilling about going in to new content as a community rather than an individual. If that makes sense.
this was the video youtube showed me that told me you exist, i've gone back to watch the ffxiv playlist and i'm grateful, also i'll just watch this again... cause :)
This. This right here is just… Look, I can say as much as I want about theming and this and that. No, shaddup me, this song is dope regardless of what meaning you add or subtract from, this is one of the best combinations of music I’ve ever heard.
Congrats on 800!
Torn From The Heavens is THE main theme of FFXIV, like the primo proper main theme of the ENTIRE game. I have no idea why no one requested it as you said, maybe because people want you to react to vocal themes more and forget that the pure instrumental soundtracks exist? It is indeed composed by Soken
My first introduction to this song was actually from Monster Hunter World's Behemoth crossover.
It made me look into XIV and I'm so happy I did!
Wow, that mix of torn and 2B is fantastic!
I have this in my ffxiv house as bgm and I literally said yesterday I hope this pops up on here 😊
Gratz on the 800 and gratz on the great pick, you just picked the OG FF XIV soundtrack gem, plus one of the best Nier Colab songs. Now you got to ear "From the Heavens", I'm kind of surprized you haven't already. Keep it up!
I remember hearing that "Torn From The Heavens" was Soken's favorite song he made for XIV. Not sure if it's true, but it's kind of the unofficial theme song for XIV and it's referenced a lot in later tracks.
Ah yes. That feeling when you find something you didn't know you were looking for or wanted :L Happy 800 :D
9:43 *NEURON ACTIVATION*
The White Outfit was the second player color in Soul Calibur crossover originally. It's why that variation got the nickname 2P.
The music from this raid, this song and kaines salvation specifically, are the reason I went and bought both neir games. As soon as i finished this.
Fun fact, torn from the heavens has INCREDIBLE throwbacks to classic ff soundtracks!
First, it starts off with the strings playing prelude, the classic title screen theme for many ff titles. It sounds so grand compared to the usual calm, soothing harp renditions, so it goes over a lot of people's heads.
Second, not long after prelude, the classic bassline intro from battle themes of older ff games plays at 3:10.
I just think it's pr neat how these were composed, subtle enough for people to not notice when they first hear it, but it hits them like a TRUCK when they realize.
disclaimer: i havent watched all the way through as of the time i made this comment
speaking of which, has he reacted to Weight of the World: Prelude or Kaine's theme?
I'm so happy for you!
One of the most iconic tracks in FFXIV. It's not requested a lot because it's from ARR and used A LOT during the main scenario. The leitmotif is then used a lot in later expansions and pieces.
Speaking of, you ABSOLUTELY NEED to listen to Ultima (The Primals). It also does this. It's essentially a remix of Ultima but turned up to 11 and has become one of the more memorable tracks in the game. Oh and the boss battles in plays in are throwbacks to FF7 which I think you will appreciate ;).
He did listen to that, ultima, the primals
@@EsporHB No, he has listened to Ultima, The Weapon's Refrain. Not the Primals version which is later on in the game.
@@grievergames9578 oh seems like I got them confused.
Congrats on the Ep.800 👏
LOVE Torn From the Heavens, I'm surprised it hasn't been requested! I guess people are so used to it it gets taken for granted. Now that you've heard it, you may recognize its motif in a ton of other XIV tunes, especially in some of the final big boss fights. It's in the Endwalker trailer, for instance. It is basically considered the player character's theme song.
I've been dying for you to listen to From the Heavens. It's pretty damn good
A classic at this point, I love how you can hear the FF prelude throughout as a foundation. It goes big and operatic in such a Final Fantasy style, and the remix figures out how to go even bigger.
There's also "From the Heavens" from the final omega fight and probably my fave version of it
Proud to say I'm one of the XIV nerds who has been keeping up with your channel! If there ever is a time where you listen to From the Heavens (Omega's phase 2 theme), I'd suggest doing so with Heartless (Omega's phase 1 theme)! To top it all off, From the Heavens was remade orchestrally by Square Enix, so you have options there too. Loving the channel, keep up the great content!
I was just thinking a few days ago that I need to suggest Torn From The Heavens since I really like it. Then I saw this and couldn't click fast enough.
The Nier songs that were specifically composed for the last bosses of the 3 nier raids are all total blasts blending XIV with Nier themes made by Okabe. This one is the second from Puppet's Bunker. The first one is from Copied Factory (weight of the world, prelude version), and the last one is from Tower at Paradigm's Breach (kainé, ff14 version).
I love this one!
Congrats! Looking forward to hearing what your think of the song given how much I’ve listened to it the last few days as part of an event in FFXIV
Torn from the Heavens is also used for the Zone Boss FATEs. When you hear this song in the game, it's about to go down.
The music alone is why I still consider the Nier raids my favorite series, though them having fun mechanics help too :) (and good glams, of course)
That collaboration between Nier and FFXIV was my first contact ever with FFXIV, and it was a complete eargasm. It's what made me play it. I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
Congrats on this great milestone! I'm glad you liked it and it's great to see how much of a NieR fan you've become haha
I'm glad it moved you and I appreciate the discussion
Torn From the Heavens is a pretty early song in the game that's at once uncommon enough to be memorable, but used often enough to not really have that 'big moment' feeling you can get with other songs in the game. For a XIV player it might be taken for granted, which is probably why it wasn't heavily requested.
Having loved nier automata enough to 100%, this set of raids were super hard and made me cry thinking on it more than once. And this track was epic. So glad you are able to appreciate it ;)
Re: From the Heavens
It's great. Obviously it's related to Torn From the Heavens. I also have a bunch of conspiracy theories about the lore implications, but that's a tangent I really can't go off on, lol.
Listen to the orchestral version - it plays in the superboss difficulty of Omega (which also gave you eScape) - and importantly, it has *lyrics* and there's a lot to dig into there but again, super long tangent.
Also, the other two nier/ff14 songs are great too; Kaine (FF Main Theme Version), and Weight of the World (Prelude version). Both slap pretty hard.
Also, as for why people don't recommend Torn from the Heavens, it's because it's from ARR (the "bad" [aka older and somewhat lackluster] part of the game), and it's also played a whole bunch but not so much in actual boss fights / bits you'll be replaying. It is, however, the *"main theme" for ff14* in that it's the song that got put in monster hunter for that crossover, and I think it was the first ff14 song to go on distant worlds, and it plays in climactic story moments, etc etc
Cool thing about the crossover version with Dark Colossus. Soken wasn't the orchestrator if I recall correctly, Okabe was the one in charge of the Nier crossover music. Hence why there's such an air of "can we beat this thing" and how the theme that represents overcoming the impossible clashing with theme of overwhelming despair. I like to think this crossover was the birthplace of Endwalker's story conflict.