11:27 i love how genuinely happy Armstrong is thinking he changed Raidens mind. Like quickly pulling him up, dusting him off and giving him a hug. You can tell Armstrong genuinely believes he is fighting for the greater good.
Those that actually believe in what they are doing are the most dangerous, they are zealous to the point that they would kill anyone that doesn't agree 100% I suppose that's why Raiden had to put him down. I think Raiden did agree with majority of Armstrong's beliefs but drawed the line when he was talking about destroying the weak and make the strong control everything. Raiden's and Armstrong's beliefs are more or less the same but Armstrong's was the extremists version of Raiden's.
Look, if i was fighting a giant robot spider and the guy piloting it ran at me after i beat it and he was *stronger* than the fucking robot, i think id just fold
I'd argue the whole main series is, for different reasons per game, but they all can largely be played by most of anyone and be able to get something from them
One issue I got with that scene, is that they focus on a few extremists/'potential trolls' on social media. Those individuals are gonna be the first and loudest in such conversations. What should be more concerning would be the later news reports coming a few hours later that would shape the public opinion. I know this is just pure fiction, but it's a important too in the real world
@@MrBanera A little fun fact portable ops’ story and overall concept comes from kojima the credits say “Original Game Design and story concept by Kojima” and the script of the original SOLID Rising is just an unused story arc of raiden from mgs4 where he was considered as a playable character in mgs4’s early dev stages like how raiden was supposed to infiltrate the patriots lab and rescue sunny but got captured and experimented upon, there’s even a concept art of raiden carrying sunny which looks strikingly similar to Death Stranding Kojima was even promised to be heavily involved with Solid Rising and his role was “more than a typical producer” Sadly even that story concept for Rising got scrapped as the game was in turmoil/dev hell as it had less than 40~ employees (to make it even more sad Solid Risings team consisted of new young employees) and kojima sadly couldn’t step in as he was already working on mgsv (c. 2009 pre-prod) and was finalizing peace walker I’d even say that Solid Risings main concept came from another unused mgs4 idea in which kojima envisioned “environmental destruction”
I can't remember where i first read this but its excellent writing that for all Armstrong goes on about individualism his power relies on billions of nanobots working together.
9:47 If i remember correct, the "make America great again" line was originally heard from "Ronald Reagan" in the 80s. This game is from 2013, before The Orange man candidate for President in 2016 for the first time. SO in other words: Like Armstrong said in the cut scenes "Not writing your own speeches". Plus Armstrong is a Walking and talking parody of Presidents, and his speech is a jumbled combination of all kinds of different phrases that other presidents said in the past.
While yes, Armstrong is somewhat parody, what he said is actually legitimate because he basically wants to end politicians abusing and gaslighting the public into wars in order to line their pockets or for niche beliefs. Granted the way he says this is by saying get rid of the weak and the strong will thrive; in which the weak are those who can only talk and manipulate and the strong are those who act, but Raiden didn't understand what he meant at first, and when he did understand there was too much bad blood between them to let him live.
@@yumin_pluto558 Armstrong's plan is also bad. It's just fascism but presented as american. Like really, you shouldn't agree with somebody who says we need "to purge the weak", thatns how you get austrian painters in power.
The funniest detail for me is that Armstrong genuinely believes Jack after he says he was wrong. He even dusts him off and the motion captured animation done by a person obviously much smaller than Armstrong is the cherry on top.
Done RIGHT. But Raiden still wishes to protect weak, Armstrong wanted to snuff them out completely. It's where their ideals clash, and why Armstrong needed to be put down
@@DirectorOfChaos9292it’s more that Armstrong is a super exaggerated version of the “Pull yourself up by the bootstraps” idea in America. He thinks it’s fully on the weak to become stronger, and Raiden thinks it’s the strongs job to pull the weak up
@@jtreview7506 No, Armstrong is an exaggeration but the ideology behind him is ultimately correct. If we don't purse meritocracy and 'greatness' but equality initiatives and "equity" etc. society tends to stagnate as we have seen for the last few decades. Armstrong is actually right, his position is just very exaggerated to the point where it has to involve violence and murder.
Armstrong is easily a top 10 video game antagonist and he has less than an hour of screen time. Also an insane amount of people would vote for Armstrong. Nobody would be able to match his charisma.
@@Sir_Bucketwhat? He objectively isn’t? He’s pitching anarchism? Anarchy usually leads to a dictatorship, but a dictatorship does not have to be formed via anarchy. Even a democracy could theoretically become a dictatorship.
@@UnluckyLilly the conditions he speaks of specifically lead to dictatorship. He doesn't want people to get back powers to live in equality, he wants "the strong to rule" and "the weak to be purged". That's a dictatorship. He plans to reach that through anarchy yes, but the end goal is a dictatorship.
This game’s relevance increases exponentially with its age edit: I said proportionally but what I meant was exponentially lmao. my brain wasn't working earlier today
@@diegomedina9637I don't get the second point, but no he did not have anything to do with the game. This is by Platinum and written by someone else at Kojipro.
People find it refreshing to have a politician with actual beliefs they would literally fight and die for. Even if it goes against some of their own values, people will tend to lean towards the more fervent and "real" politician.
Armstrong's plan for making America filled with the strong and free was to fund an experiment about kidnapping orphans, robbing them of their humanity, and making them go to war. Raiden would not have pulled up if Armstrong wasn't a hypocrite. But most monologuing villains are hypocrites anyways. Pushing ideals like that requires a lot of awareness of situations that Armstrong lacks, or perhaps just doesn't care about since orphaned Mexican children aren't his voter-base.
0:47 Instant internet access isn't all that amazing. It's the fact that he is a walking PC setup. Man casually walks around with a gajillion display monitors at his disposal. The fact that his weapons are like, RGB colors, doesn't help. He js a literal walking gaming PC.
For some reason this put the age old question in my head and I now am obligated to ask it. How many Skyrim ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) mods do you think Raiden's body can handle before he explodes?
Armstrong: "I gotta kill you! Don't want any eyewitness reports of our activities here!" also Armstrong: (has a crowd cheering for him after he does his football move)
"Making the mother of all omelettes here Jack, can't fret over every egg." still hits as hard as it did the first time I heard it honestly. such a simple, sick line.
I only found out about this game cause of Max0r. And now I need to play it for myself. Armstrong is one of the most charismatic, hilarious, and compelling villains I’ve ever seen. Everything about this game just oozes goofy personality and I love it.
Hey what the hell is this goin on in game. I mean. I know the metal gear franchise is a bit silly but this one is majorly insane. I'm completely enamored with the derangement.
"Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke. We're all pawns, controlled by something greater: memes! The DNA of the soul! - real words a voice actor was paid to say for this beautiful game
@@scrungles7853 one time I was asked to write a paper about free will early in college. Made up a bunch of bullshit about epigenetic and meme theory then ended with that line. I got an A, somehow.
Metal Gear has always been a critique of war. All games have strong things to say about it. But this is the first time they've been this blatant. And in fact, touches onto an alternate world view than what MGS usually critiques. The games always bashed how we handle war, but this time it bashed an alternative to how we currently do it. Because the current way we do it is attrocious, but that doesn't mean all options are better.
@@bipstymcbipste5641 That's his view, yeah. The issue is that he is skipping the crucial fact that he is deciding WHO is people at that point. A literal part of the na*i playbook. "WE decide who is a na*i." Even then, he makes it clear that he wants EVERYONE to suffer like Jack has, he isn't cleaning the "leeches" or anything like that, he wants power to be only attainable by force and suffering, and for everyone to suffer like that.
Armstrong saw Raiden as a model for all citizens. He knew what Raiden had to go through in order to survive and didn't blame him for any of his actions. He wanted everyone to be able to have the freedom to save themselves without repercussions.
Not even max0r could overpower the shitpost energy this game gives off. Not many games out there where he pulls out the "Real in-game dialogue. Seriously." simply because even he is incapable of coming up with something more ridiculous than the source material.
It’s weird to see 2016 referred to as “past vinny” but it’s been longer between these streams when and he started streaming and he played MGR this was a tricky ass sentence to write god damn
Armstrong’s writing is so funny in this game because he goes on about choosing your own war and deciding laws for yourself and everyone freaks out and loves him and calls him a man of conviction and principle. Then Blade Wolf walks onscreen, declares it has chosen its own war and making its own laws, and Armstrong kicks the shit out of it for that explicit reason. Like I suppose the writing could be *less* subtle, but not by much.
I find it darkly hilarious that the next game in the franchise after this is the darkest one in the franchise. You can go from ‘fighting a U.S senator on steroids as a cyborg ninja’ to ‘they’ve booby trapped a child’ very quickly when playing by release order.
Saucy Jack was how Jack The Ripper referred to himself in one of the Jack the Ripper Letters. Allegedly. Chances are it was a hoax latter. It seems no one ever gets that reference.
The only way I'd not vote for Armstrong is if he running against Michael Nelson from Metal Wolf Chaos. Of course I can only see that race ending in a tie and the two having a mech battle to determine the winner.
I like how Vinny pokes fun at the game for how on the nose it is with it's message, but then you go and see how many people unironically agree with Armstrong and I'm left wondering if it wasn't clear enough.
@@Rad-Dude63andathird Plenty of people don’t commit crimes if they know they can get in trouble. If those people know there are no cops coming, ever, might as well doing anything and everything. The threat of punishment, of getting caught is a great deterrent.
Armstrong wanted men and women to fight their own wars. Boss wanted soldiers to lay down their arms and say no to orders to kill the opponent. That is why Armstrong’s dream is ultimately flawed though mingled in truth.
@@nothingwrong2293 That's because it's just that: a desire for a peace and unity among men, surpassing the borders and wars established by ideology and nations. It's inherently nebulous, and so prone to misinterpretation. "Politics, economics, the arms race - they're all just arenas for meaningless competition. I'm sure you can see that. But the Earth itself has no boundaries. No East, No West, No Cold War. [...] In the 21st century everyone will be able to see that we are all just inhabitants of a little celestial body called Earth. A world without communism and capitalism... that is the world I wanted to see." (MGS 3) Big Boss interpreted this as soldiers fighting for wars without being tied to anything, conflict itself giving life purpose, eventually achieving an equality and unity through an endless war, fought solely because that is a soldier's reason for being: "We will forsake our countries. We will leave our motherlands behind us and become one with this earth. We have no nation, no philosophy, no ideology. We go where we're needed, fighting, not for government, but for ourselves. We need no reason to fight. We fight because we are needed." (MGS PW) By rejecting the Boss' pacifist desires, he condemned himself to forever be entrapped within the very systems of war governed by ideology and national competition that the Boss wanted to end: "Zero and I, Liquid and Solidus, we all fought a long, bloody war for our liberty to free ourselves from systems, nations, norms and ages, but no matter how hard we fought, the only liberty we found was on the inside, trapped within those limits." (MGS 4) His contrast emerged in the Patriots and the war economy: an endless war, conducted not according to the freedom of men's convictions, but controlled and perpetuated by a singular consciousness seemingly for its own continued existence. Human behavior and thought controlled through systems of the digital world, eternally in want for the day the gunfire stops, but unified beyond the constraints of ideology and nations.
9:48 I'll keep this brief and as light as possible on politics but for anyone wondering on the history of it, the make America great again quote comes from regan. Trump took alot of inspiration from him.
To this day this remains the greatest Metal Gear game in the series, it's a crime we never got a sequel. Raiden has performed feats in this game which put him above the likes of Big Boss and Solid Snake, they really managed to turn him into the biggest badass there is.
Armstrong has to be one of my favorite Metal Gear villains, and this game wasn't to be taken seriously in the continuity of the orignal series. If I have to make a list I say these are my top 5. Ocelot Armstrong Phycho Mantis The Boss Vulcan Raven
Saucy jack was a name used to sign a post card that was believed to be sent by Jack the Ripper, raidens nick name.
I finally have the answer to this question.
Thank you.
Raider???
Bro
What if instead of saucy jack we called him freaky jack
If Jack the Ripper was alive today would they call him Sussy Jack?
Sussy Jack
He’s a character you want more of but this is the perfect amount of him
The perfect dose, because after a while he would get really annoying.
@@xptaco2298He'd become that one right-wing Uncle who won't stfu about politics and Trump during the holidays. Expect Armstrong would do that 24/7.
11:27 i love how genuinely happy Armstrong is thinking he changed Raidens mind. Like quickly pulling him up, dusting him off and giving him a hug. You can tell Armstrong genuinely believes he is fighting for the greater good.
neither of em fighting for good though
@@Aiveq they're fighting for what they believe in. Which to their individual perspectives is the greater good.
@@Patbacknitro2 Which is exactly the point of the story. Good theming.
@Alveq Raiden TECHNICALLY is. Armstrong's plan is insane and his means of going about it are undoubtedly EVIL.
Those that actually believe in what they are doing are the most dangerous, they are zealous to the point that they would kill anyone that doesn't agree 100% I suppose that's why Raiden had to put him down. I think Raiden did agree with majority of Armstrong's beliefs but drawed the line when he was talking about destroying the weak and make the strong control everything. Raiden's and Armstrong's beliefs are more or less the same but Armstrong's was the extremists version of Raiden's.
Every line a poem: ❌️
Every line a meme: ✅️
That's a pretty meme! Exquisite!
The DNA of the soul
both. both is good
What are memes, if not poems in humor.
Look, if i was fighting a giant robot spider and the guy piloting it ran at me after i beat it and he was *stronger* than the fucking robot, i think id just fold
Fight giant robot
Saitama walks out
Rethink life choices
No, no... you couldn't just give up, and even if you did, you'd still get folded by that man.
This game is fucking evergreen.
I'd argue the whole main series is, for different reasons per game, but they all can largely be played by most of anyone and be able to get something from them
that's why Kojima is genius, entire series is evergreen
@@sadge0 Kojima didn't make this game tho?
It's actually called Metal Gear Rising.
It’s so ironically and unironically cool
Indestructible man thinks people should pick themselves up by their bootstraps.
Pick themselves up by their nanomachines
, son
Many such cases
COMMENTARY
To be fair, he does deliver a counter argument to your point right after saying that.
Raiden opening twitter in the beginning is the best scene in gaming.
“This one’s calling me a Redditor”
One issue I got with that scene, is that they focus on a few extremists/'potential trolls' on social media. Those individuals are gonna be the first and loudest in such conversations. What should be more concerning would be the later news reports coming a few hours later that would shape the public opinion.
I know this is just pure fiction, but it's a important too in the real world
Raiden: Senator! How do your clothes stay so clean?!
Armstrong: Washing Machines son! The soap reacts to Physical Stains!
You can’t dirty me, Jack!
*Blade wolf appears in the distance, carrying a bucket of used oil.
@@rompevuevitos222*crude oil
Time stains all.
@@Piss-l9iMore like “You can’t ruin my clothing, Jack!”
This game is still very timely even now
And it’ll probably be more and more timely for centuries
_"the memes..."_
So true Boss
@@pendalink So excited for coliseums to come back.
Sometimes I feel the Excelsus theme could replace the National Anthem these days.
19:45 I really like the visual metaphor they have here, where Armstrong IS Raiden's shadow.
Oh wow, now i see it
Didn't realised this throughout the years watching this
Never noticed that detail before. That's pretty cool
12:15 I really like the visual metaphor they have here, where Armstrong IS spreading his asscheeks at Raiden.
@@beenings213hard to miss that detail. Still, that’s pretty cool
@@slendersblenderArmstrong wasn't really trying to be discreet, so, it makes sense.
This game was written by Etsu Tamari. Huge shame more people don't know his name!
He was also an additional writer on MGS V and apparently wrote the radio scripts for Peace Walker.
finally, a Kojima successor
People always say that without Kojima there's no new metal gear, but this game and portable ops are proof enough that it's possible and can be amazing
@@MrBanera A little fun fact portable ops’ story and overall concept comes from kojima the credits say “Original Game Design and story concept by Kojima”
and the script of the original SOLID Rising is just an unused story arc of raiden from mgs4 where he was considered as a playable character in mgs4’s early dev stages like how raiden was supposed to infiltrate the patriots lab and rescue sunny but got captured and experimented upon, there’s even a concept art of raiden carrying sunny which looks strikingly similar to Death Stranding
Kojima was even promised to be heavily involved with Solid Rising and his role was “more than a typical producer”
Sadly even that story concept for Rising got scrapped as the game was in turmoil/dev hell as it had less than 40~ employees (to make it even more sad Solid Risings team consisted of new young employees) and kojima sadly couldn’t step in as he was already working on mgsv (c. 2009 pre-prod) and was finalizing peace walker
I’d even say that Solid Risings main concept came from another unused mgs4 idea in which kojima envisioned “environmental destruction”
Why would I? I view this game as nothing but a massive meme
I can't remember where i first read this but its excellent writing that for all Armstrong goes on about individualism his power relies on billions of nanobots working together.
He's a leviathan
9:47 If i remember correct, the "make America great again" line was originally heard from "Ronald Reagan" in the 80s. This game is from 2013, before The Orange man candidate for President in 2016 for the first time. SO in other words: Like Armstrong said in the cut scenes "Not writing your own speeches".
Plus Armstrong is a Walking and talking parody of Presidents, and his speech is a jumbled combination of all kinds of different phrases that other presidents said in the past.
Technically DJT ran a rather unsuccessful presidential campaign a fair number of years before 2016 ?
Orange Man ran as President before but was unsuccessful. He even advertised on Oprah.
While yes, Armstrong is somewhat parody, what he said is actually legitimate because he basically wants to end politicians abusing and gaslighting the public into wars in order to line their pockets or for niche beliefs. Granted the way he says this is by saying get rid of the weak and the strong will thrive; in which the weak are those who can only talk and manipulate and the strong are those who act, but Raiden didn't understand what he meant at first, and when he did understand there was too much bad blood between them to let him live.
@@RAINMAKEEER Orpah was such a wild show
@@yumin_pluto558 Armstrong's plan is also bad. It's just fascism but presented as american.
Like really, you shouldn't agree with somebody who says we need "to purge the weak", thatns how you get austrian painters in power.
The funniest detail for me is that Armstrong genuinely believes Jack after he says he was wrong. He even dusts him off and the motion captured animation done by a person obviously much smaller than Armstrong is the cherry on top.
I want to see this fucking man run against Funny Valentine for President.
Would be the best election in US history.
Or an amazing Death Battle.
The whooshing of armstrongs arms at the beginning....
They're just that powerful.
that's why he's called Armstrong
I find it funny how Armstrong told Jack to fight for what HE believes in, meanwhile Raiden was on a personal crusade ever since Denver.
Raiden is the personification of Armstrong's ideology
Done RIGHT. But Raiden still wishes to protect weak, Armstrong wanted to snuff them out completely. It's where their ideals clash, and why Armstrong needed to be put down
@@DirectorOfChaos9292it’s more that Armstrong is a super exaggerated version of the “Pull yourself up by the bootstraps” idea in America. He thinks it’s fully on the weak to become stronger, and Raiden thinks it’s the strongs job to pull the weak up
@@jtreview7506 No, Armstrong is an exaggeration but the ideology behind him is ultimately correct. If we don't purse meritocracy and 'greatness' but equality initiatives and "equity" etc. society tends to stagnate as we have seen for the last few decades. Armstrong is actually right, his position is just very exaggerated to the point where it has to involve violence and murder.
@@dabelidubelidabelidadada1222 that’s why I said exaggerated, the idea isn’t wrong, but like anything taken to extremes, stuff gets real wonky
Armstrong is easily a top 10 video game antagonist and he has less than an hour of screen time. Also an insane amount of people would vote for Armstrong. Nobody would be able to match his charisma.
You know, when the whole game takes 6-8 hours to complete its not surprising
Which is kinda sad considering Armstrong is pitching a dictatorship
@@Sir_Bucketwhat? He objectively isn’t? He’s pitching anarchism? Anarchy usually leads to a dictatorship, but a dictatorship does not have to be formed via anarchy. Even a democracy could theoretically become a dictatorship.
@@UnluckyLilly the conditions he speaks of specifically lead to dictatorship. He doesn't want people to get back powers to live in equality, he wants "the strong to rule" and "the weak to be purged". That's a dictatorship. He plans to reach that through anarchy yes, but the end goal is a dictatorship.
@@UnluckyLilly Democracies can not only "theoretically" become a dictatorship, we have plenty of historical cases where it already happened.
I genuinely think this ending is probably the best in the series, just layers upon layers of awesome writing and action
It really is. The boss fight is super fun too.
In the series? nah. It's good though, and funny
I prefer Arlington, but this is a good sorta "just so you know, Raiden's still protecting the weak" follow-up.
Kojima WISHES he could be this funny.
God its strange how different Vinny sounded back then
2016 still feels like it was yesterday
hi pip
heya pip
Seek grass
Holy shit, I really do see you everywhere
@@Erblorg he's a brony, probably doesn't have anything better to do with his life tbh
I'm shocked it 2024 and people don't realize the shit Armstrong says isn't just memes and actually from the game.
Which, funny enough, are memes by themselves. Lol
Fun fact: Armstrong and Mimir from GoW share the voice actor
Another fun fact: Armstrong's voice actor used to be married to Skylar Whites actress, Anna Gun
He also voices Celebrimbor from the Shadow of Mordor/War games!!
Your fucking with me rigth now
@@stegosandrosos1291 nah man, look it up. Alastair Duncan
Sad fact: That will mean nothing to Vinny as he refuses to play those games for whatever reason.
'yea quinton. you deliver the shit out of those lines' is exactly how i felt playing this
the old mic, very nostalgic
People: Armstrong's speech is so over the top
Armstrong: Checked the news lately?
Good lord raidens voice is so funny
This game’s relevance increases exponentially with its age
edit: I said proportionally but what I meant was exponentially lmao. my brain wasn't working earlier today
To the point where I'm not sure if Kojima had something to do with this game personally or if he was just a hack.
@@diegomedina9637 probably neither I guess
This and MGS2...except this was much simpler to digest. Lol
@@diegomedina9637I don't get the second point, but no he did not have anything to do with the game. This is by Platinum and written by someone else at Kojipro.
No.
I love how he says he would vote for him while being his exact target.
Dude, you ARE the 24h trivia celebrity bullshit.
People find it refreshing to have a politician with actual beliefs they would literally fight and die for. Even if it goes against some of their own values, people will tend to lean towards the more fervent and "real" politician.
@@LouisAndPillz The age old story of people voting for the face-eating leopards.
Its not vinnys fault he doesnt push celebrity trivia.
Armstrong's plan for making America filled with the strong and free was to fund an experiment about kidnapping orphans, robbing them of their humanity, and making them go to war. Raiden would not have pulled up if Armstrong wasn't a hypocrite. But most monologuing villains are hypocrites anyways.
Pushing ideals like that requires a lot of awareness of situations that Armstrong lacks, or perhaps just doesn't care about since orphaned Mexican children aren't his voter-base.
@@NikotheleepicOnly the celebrities (particularly musicians) he likes.
0:47 Instant internet access isn't all that amazing.
It's the fact that he is a walking PC setup. Man casually walks around with a gajillion display monitors at his disposal.
The fact that his weapons are like, RGB colors, doesn't help. He js a literal walking gaming PC.
With a body that looks like a gamer mouse
For some reason this put the age old question in my head and I now am obligated to ask it. How many Skyrim ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) mods do you think Raiden's body can handle before he explodes?
@@jonolivier9126 better yet, how many crysis 3 can raiden run?
@@jonolivier9126 idk but do you think he uses Subway Surfer's footage to keep his serotonin addiction fed?
@@jonolivier9126I think his battery would die before that
I am only now realizing that Armstrong is voiced by Celebrimbor from the Shadow of Mordor/War games
That’s hilarious
Also Mimir in God of War
And Kaito in Judgment
@@dantetouchdown9030Kaito is voiced by Crispin freeman, sundowner's voice actor
@@paul-nj1ig my bad, this is Alastair Duncan right?
The fact this game is so topical even still, today, is immaculate.
Armstrong: "I gotta kill you! Don't want any eyewitness reports of our activities here!"
also Armstrong: (has a crowd cheering for him after he does his football move)
I see it as a sound he plays through the metal gear's loudspeaker to taunt raiden
"Making the mother of all omelettes here Jack, can't fret over every egg." still hits as hard as it did the first time I heard it honestly. such a simple, sick line.
Pretty sure both Armstrong and trump were quoting Reagan or something when they said MAGA but it would be really funny if trump played metal gear
Bill Clinton said it to so they could be quoting him
Metal Gear Rising never dies. Hence the name Rising, its popularity rises.
9:47 WHAT
9:45 "WHAT!" "WWWWHHHHAAAATTTT!!!!" Bro forgot about ronald reagan
Metal Gear Rising will never die!!!
For real.
It will, as all things do, but it will stay in the minds of people for some time. It's a truly brilliant game.
I still cant believe this is actual dialogue in this game. Its so fucking funny.
13:49 that fuckin reaction from Vinny is pure gold, oh my god
“I was wrong, you’re not greedy…YOUR BATSHIT INSANE” PEAK 🔥
I only found out about this game cause of Max0r. And now I need to play it for myself. Armstrong is one of the most charismatic, hilarious, and compelling villains I’ve ever seen. Everything about this game just oozes goofy personality and I love it.
It was one of the last games to do genuine, honest ham acting and have it land perfectly. Too much self-aware ironic writing nowadays.
If Armstrong was running for this election he would absolutely win
Is either him or two zombies
This is the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme except is
Coughing old man vs Nanomachine bomb vs old orange man
Is either him or two zombies
This is the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme except is
Coughing old man vs Nanomachine bomb vs old orange man
Hey what the hell is this goin on in game. I mean. I know the metal gear franchise is a bit silly but this one is majorly insane.
I'm completely enamored with the derangement.
MGR is the most insane metal gear game and I love it
"Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke. We're all pawns, controlled by something greater: memes! The DNA of the soul! - real words a voice actor was paid to say for this beautiful game
@@dianauwu1312 The dna of the soul...
@@scrungles7853 one time I was asked to write a paper about free will early in college. Made up a bunch of bullshit about epigenetic and meme theory then ended with that line.
I got an A, somehow.
Metal Gear has always been a critique of war. All games have strong things to say about it.
But this is the first time they've been this blatant. And in fact, touches onto an alternate world view than what MGS usually critiques.
The games always bashed how we handle war, but this time it bashed an alternative to how we currently do it. Because the current way we do it is attrocious, but that doesn't mean all options are better.
That “WHAT!?” at the Make America Great Again phrase. LOL
Armstrong: "Put power back into the hands of the people"
Also, Armstrong: "The weak will be purged"
It is a common loophole:
"The world will be objectively better, FOR the people that i want to have in it"
The "weak" being the pencil pushers up top with no actual goals, just greed and all that
@@bipstymcbipste5641 That's his view, yeah.
The issue is that he is skipping the crucial fact that he is deciding WHO is people at that point. A literal part of the na*i playbook.
"WE decide who is a na*i."
Even then, he makes it clear that he wants EVERYONE to suffer like Jack has, he isn't cleaning the "leeches" or anything like that, he wants power to be only attainable by force and suffering, and for everyone to suffer like that.
Jack: "Let's dance!"
Armstrong: *Instantly dies of cringe*
this awesome speech paired with vinny’s absolutely broken and shallow political analysis is genuinely hilarious
he heard "nanomachines, son" and turned into that gif of Danny DeVito going "I finally get it..." from It's Always Sunny
Armstrong saw Raiden as a model for all citizens. He knew what Raiden had to go through in order to survive and didn't blame him for any of his actions. He wanted everyone to be able to have the freedom to save themselves without repercussions.
17:39 I love that Vinny’s palpatine impression is just Mike Stoklasa’s palpatine impression
Not even max0r could overpower the shitpost energy this game gives off. Not many games out there where he pulls out the "Real in-game dialogue. Seriously." simply because even he is incapable of coming up with something more ridiculous than the source material.
Armstrong is simultaneously who I would and wouldn't vote for, and that might make him the perfect politician.
Man it's so surreal listening to past Vinny.
It’s weird to see 2016 referred to as “past vinny” but it’s been longer between these streams when and he started streaming and he played MGR
this was a tricky ass sentence to write god damn
They did, in fact, spread their memes everywhere...
Armstrong’s writing is so funny in this game because he goes on about choosing your own war and deciding laws for yourself and everyone freaks out and loves him and calls him a man of conviction and principle.
Then Blade Wolf walks onscreen, declares it has chosen its own war and making its own laws, and Armstrong kicks the shit out of it for that explicit reason. Like I suppose the writing could be *less* subtle, but not by much.
There's nothing inconsistent about it. If Bladewolf is too kickable to enforce his will over Armstrong's, that's on him.
Blade Wolf's war interfers with Armstrong's war.
Or something idk
Blade wolf decided to join Raiden in his war out of own conviction, so Armstrong fought Bladewolf like he did Raiden.
Armstrong is genuinely a better president than the one we have- hell, I’d vote for him twice-
Cyborg Ninja rips a giant super mech to shreds, but a swole senator kicks his ass. Why?
"I played college ball, you know?"
One of the many times they get the villian to say true things.
I find it darkly hilarious that the next game in the franchise after this is the darkest one in the franchise.
You can go from ‘fighting a U.S senator on steroids as a cyborg ninja’ to ‘they’ve booby trapped a child’ very quickly when playing by release order.
I wish elections were like this.
Hmm... Judging by the state of the States right now, I think they are. Over there.
They’re even worse 😂
@@invisiiso they lack the epicness of a physical fight, they need to box each other or play a FPS game while saying their arguments
@@luckyinky7849 Presidents should become wrestlers
@@MSCDonkeyKong Lincoln set the precedent, now it's time for even more election kayfabe
I gotta say, this might be the most amazing ending to a game ever, this entire sequence is like a fever dream.
Between MGS2 and this, it's funny how Raiden-centric games manage to walk the line of insane and poignant. Or something.
That’s just MGS in general.
This is honestly so atemporal. Even the graphics, the game ages like wine.
They're honestly just about the perfect balance of realism/fidelity and stylization, they still look great.
both this game and vinny have aged magnificently
Saucy Jack was how Jack The Ripper referred to himself in one of the Jack the Ripper Letters. Allegedly. Chances are it was a hoax latter. It seems no one ever gets that reference.
Holy shit I've never taken the time to watch this cutscene.
This game is pure theatre.
It was peak then, it's peak now. I'll never forget my first playthrough
The only way I'd not vote for Armstrong is if he running against Michael Nelson from Metal Wolf Chaos. Of course I can only see that race ending in a tie and the two having a mech battle to determine the winner.
Armstrong is the mecha.
Find it nuts in retrospect that Vin happened to stream the finale around 2 weeks before the 2016 presidential elections
His entire playthrough is hysterical so many funny italian american man noises
in my country, armstrong face looks like former governor of jakarta anies baswedan
Fun Fact: Senator Armstrong is voiced by Alastair Duncan, who voiced Mimir in the Norse God of War games.
*Lets get this man elected!*
*Might makes Right!*
*Armstrong '24*
I like how Vinny pokes fun at the game for how on the nose it is with it's message, but then you go and see how many people unironically agree with Armstrong and I'm left wondering if it wasn't clear enough.
Everyone wants anarchy till they can’t call the police to help them
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Ew, cop lover.
He says a lot of smart things and a shit ton of dumb immoral things. That's why Raiden takes his advice but not fully of course
Broken clock and all that
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Plenty of people don’t commit crimes if they know they can get in trouble. If those people know there are no cops coming, ever, might as well doing anything and everything. The threat of punishment, of getting caught is a great deterrent.
Armstrong is this character that you love and agree with for a sec, and consider him insane for the next, and then it repeats
15:40 oh.. "Sorry for being rough last night"
Armstrong wanted men and women to fight their own wars.
Boss wanted soldiers to lay down their arms and say no to orders to kill the opponent.
That is why Armstrong’s dream is ultimately flawed though mingled in truth.
At this point I'm convinced that even Kojima himself doesn't know what the hell the Boss' will is
@@nothingwrong2293I don't think so.
@@vladvolkov6052 you'd be surprised how much writers leave to imagination of consumers
@@nothingwrong2293 That's because it's just that: a desire for a peace and unity among men, surpassing the borders and wars established by ideology and nations. It's inherently nebulous, and so prone to misinterpretation. "Politics, economics, the arms race - they're all just arenas for meaningless competition. I'm sure you can see that. But the Earth itself has no boundaries. No East, No West, No Cold War. [...] In the 21st century everyone will be able to see that we are all just inhabitants of a little celestial body called Earth. A world without communism and capitalism... that is the world I wanted to see." (MGS 3)
Big Boss interpreted this as soldiers fighting for wars without being tied to anything, conflict itself giving life purpose, eventually achieving an equality and unity through an endless war, fought solely because that is a soldier's reason for being: "We will forsake our countries. We will leave our motherlands behind us and become one with this earth. We have no nation, no philosophy, no ideology. We go where we're needed, fighting, not for government, but for ourselves. We need no reason to fight. We fight because we are needed." (MGS PW) By rejecting the Boss' pacifist desires, he condemned himself to forever be entrapped within the very systems of war governed by ideology and national competition that the Boss wanted to end: "Zero and I, Liquid and Solidus, we all fought a long, bloody war for our liberty to free ourselves from systems, nations, norms and ages, but no matter how hard we fought, the only liberty we found was on the inside, trapped within those limits." (MGS 4)
His contrast emerged in the Patriots and the war economy: an endless war, conducted not according to the freedom of men's convictions, but controlled and perpetuated by a singular consciousness seemingly for its own continued existence. Human behavior and thought controlled through systems of the digital world, eternally in want for the day the gunfire stops, but unified beyond the constraints of ideology and nations.
I don't think Armstrong cares about the boss or the patriots
i can't believe vinny didn't know senator armstrong is who originated "nanomachines, son!"
2:31 Solidus and his Sons weep.
Finally, some good flubbin food
The fact that Armstrong and Mimir from God of War share the same voice actor is just too funny to me. Lol
Armstrong is like The Major from Hellsing. the goofy acting reminds of me Jojo anime lol
9:48 I'll keep this brief and as light as possible on politics but for anyone wondering on the history of it, the make America great again quote comes from regan. Trump took alot of inspiration from him.
Im writing in Armstrong this election.
STANDING HERE, I REALIZE!!!!
Jim Cornette was truly the best MGS villain of all time.
13:18 Vin's reaction here always kills me
God this game is so fucking sick, I almost forgot how cool it was
I forgot how completely insane this game was
The whole thing feels like a dub shitposr done in 1 take
The boss hasent started and senetor already has the wish woosh sfx everytime he moves
I’m surprised he’s been left unspoiled of this for so long with how hard it’s memed on, but these reactions are worth it.
666th comment lol
armstrong knows armament haki lol
To this day this remains the greatest Metal Gear game in the series, it's a crime we never got a sequel. Raiden has performed feats in this game which put him above the likes of Big Boss and Solid Snake, they really managed to turn him into the biggest badass there is.
0:15 You sound like somebody from Batman
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The jinklgar
@@astroboi79081:36 Who is the guy with the cigar
Armstrong has to be one of my favorite Metal Gear villains, and this game wasn't to be taken seriously in the continuity of the orignal series. If I have to make a list I say these are my top 5.
Ocelot
Armstrong
Phycho Mantis
The Boss
Vulcan Raven
He's got arms, he's strong, and he's a senator
this game, this final boss , is just relevant every election. Any year
Hideo Kojima is leaps and bounds beyond when it comes to story, Metal Gear Solid 2, Revengeance are constantly still relevant, even now
"Fuck the media!" Holy shit, while I agree with that, he sounds a lot like what we know lmao
MGS is damn near prophetic