Skipped all the nonsense about promoters i come here for the fighter chat i dont care about the muppets who have stopped the fights happening for years
Why are the Matchroom casuals moaning about Simon being involved with boxxer? You’ve loved Eggie Hearn controlling boxing social and IFL TV for years. Game changed 😂
@@Videoholic.2598Fury has aged himself by abusing his body. Usyk is fit 365 days a year. Age is just a number, but physical and neurological wear and tear are very real...
Shame on this channel. Yet again another hit piece when everyone know's Simon and Spencer have a vested interest. You only have to look at the likes of John Doherty, Rick Ramos and others in the industry that say Ben has been a real prick to deal with
Yip him and Fake Shalom are best buddies and Simon hates Eddie as he's more successful than him and turned matchroom into a billion pound company and Simon hates that
Ngl that 5v5 Boxxer v Matchroom looks great. Way better than I thought, especially given how people act like Shalom's stable is shite & Hearn's god gift to earth
From what I saw in the first fight, despite Fury’s spell of success in the middle rounds, I don’t think Fury has the beating of Usyk. Usyk not only maintains a pace that exhausts his opponents, he can suddenly flick the switch after coming under pressure, when his opponent least expects it. He did it in R8 against Fury, and he did it in R10 against Joshua. He just suddenly finds another gear when he needs it.
Always great to see Simon and Spence and the bond they share even if I’m at either of their throats which I usually am I feel like they’ve towed me back into the hardcore world of boxing starting this show and Talksport’s boxing channel from the groundworks to the current point and Adam a legend of the game as great and unbiased as ever
did Adam Smith really just say '' THIS IS A PROPER FIGHT '' about the 2 best heavyweights on the planet doing a rematch after a brilliant first fight lmao
It’s not really on the line because Fury was never gonna win against an all time cruiser weight legend like Usyk, Usyk is too good for the current division, Fury is elite but he could never hang with the all time great heavyweights
Furys best performance by far in his career was the defeat to Usyk. "The best version of Tyson Fury" turned up and it wasn't good enough. His soul was broken in that fight. He doesn't have the character to come back from that. Stoppage win for Usyk within 8.
Simon getting trying to get shalom out of a court case. ohhh bullying and Ben never said that. This is shocking the Talksport platform is being used for Simon's interests.
Jordan and Oliver are so reluctant to admit the truth which is that Usyk knows he can hurt Fury , Fury doesn't know he can hurt Usyk. Thats critical....
Jeez, Smith is a 'firms' man, & is so scared to upset anyone, his favourite phrase is "Well its a 50/50 fight", he ALWAYS sits on the fence, he picked Bivol to beat Beterbiev & got it wrong, he almost never picks a winner, because the fence is so comfortable for him, all those years with sky, have made him a rubbish pundit ! !.
I hope Shaloms on a wind up. Eddie Hearn puts his fighters in as early as possible which is why he fighters lose so much, ain’t no hiding at DAZN, yet Adam azim isn’t fighting dalton Smith.
Distinguish between the two statements. When Ben Shalom mentions that they are investigating the gloves used by the opposing fighter, he is simply stating that there is an inquiry or review happening. This type of statement does not directly accuse anyone of cheating; it indicates that there is a concern or potential issue that needs to be looked into. For something to be considered defamatory (such as libel in written form), the statement must be false and harm the reputation of the person or entity it concerns. Since Shalom's comment is about an investigation, it's more of a factual statement about a process rather than a direct accusation. Investigating something is not the same as stating that cheating occurred, so it wouldn’t typically expose him to libel proceedings unless he made false claims about the investigation's outcome or wrongfully accused someone of cheating without evidence. By phrasing it as an investigation, Shalom is staying within safer legal territory.
Additionally, if Frank's assertions are made maliciously, and with the intention to harm Ben’s reputation or coerce them in some way, they could potentially lead to claims of harassment or abuse of legal process. Frivolous/baseless threats of legal action harm the credibility of the person making them and might expose them to counterclaims, such as defamation or harassment if they cross a line into false accusations or intimidation.
Simon loses all credibility in the way he presents Shalom. Awful propaganda. By all accounts (from multiple sources) he’s an egotistical mess of a bloke
I know that furys tactics will be to be more aggressive from the 3rd 2 rnds seeing that attack I think usyk reads that and slows it down with strait left to furys chin fury can't take 1 to the chin anymore
How has Yarde improved? Gasses in the back of the fight against Kovalev and that was 5 years ago. He's not getting any better and at 33 he has not beaten anyone of note.
The ref check’s the gloves when the fighters get in to the ring !! If there’s something wrong with them and the ref don’t say nothing !! then the ref must be at it ??
Jordan says on this that Catterall doesn't get the attention he deserves. Hardly talks about it here, couple minutes at the end, cos he's only really capable of going on about 3 promoters (one in particular) and a bit about the big name heavyweights.
Funny how minimal Simon is being and almost correcting the conversation narrative to say Ben hasn’t said all the gossip that’s out there. Eddie or frank need to jump on there and say to Simon “narratives changed for you and your lil business buddy Ben”
What Ben said you dopes, was the medical man who operated on his fighter said no glove should ever do the damage that he was having to fix up, Ben just reiterated that and that only!
@@TheHarrybo1Well i watched the interview that sparked all this, so I know exactly what Ben said. This has all blown up because of people like Umar and Talksport running to Frank and getting him at it!
Comparing boxing to football is ridiculous!! You have a bad game in football you have 10 others to bail you out!! Boxing your all on your own in there!! Plus its alot more dangerous!!!
What legacy? Fair enough he beat klitschko to become unified champ but about from that, what legacy. Not wilder because wilder has always been protected and cherry picked his whole career, like fury. For arguments sake take klitschko and wilder out of the equation and who has he fought for legacy.
Fair point dude! Do you think the 2nd fight will mirror the 1st or do you see any twists and turns. I expect more forward pressure and aggression from Fury, if he's smart he will have realised he was having most success with body shots and uppercuts. A twelve round fight would be another cracker to watch. However i suspect it will not go the distance. Not wishing to sit on the fence but i genuinely believe either of them is capable of ending this one inside the distance. Enjoy the fight dude!
32:20 To suggest AJ doesnt deserve a fight with Fury is more nonsense from Jordan ; assuming Fury loses to Usyk again then why not? They'll have both lost twice to Usyk and Usyk will then be tied up with a unification with Dubois ; its a no brainer.
Fury has absolutely no "legacy" He tip tap jabbed his way to a tedious win against a 40 year old world champ then needed a trilogy to establish superiority over the most overrated HW in the history of the sport ; a man who'd beaten not a single top 20 opponent in his career. Other than that what has he achieved? Absolutely nothing apart from becoming the biggest mouth/self publicist of all time.
Exactly, and he knew he was bang in trouble with usyk and there was nowhere to hide , and usyk still smashed him up conceding 40lbs and a huge reach advantage 😂😂😂😂😂🥊🥊🥊
Won every belt there is to win in boxing, a 2 time Ring Magazine heavyweight champion, sold out Wembley stadium and has the chance to become a 3 time heavyweight champion.............. But yeah a random ponce who lives in his mother's basement and wanks over DC comics says Tyson Fury doesn't have a legacy 🤦🤦🤦🤦.... Fools 🤣🤣
Did he say that? Thought fit he said he was stepping back from Sky specifically at first then said he’s open to new opps, hence setting up his own firm.
Daddy Simon protecting his little boy Benjamin
The transition of Simon from straight talking pundit to bitter gossip girl needs to be studied
Great to have Adam on here to counteract the nonsense of Spencer haha
And Betty Simon
Smith never contributes anything novel or interesting.
Glad someone said it guy talks nonsense just becasue you boxed doesn't make you an expert 😂
Hi Spencer, please stop speaking over others, it’s frustrating to listen to.
Sadly he can’t read so won’t be able to heed your request.
@@adamwhite8258 LOOL
😂
Btw Simon does this too, I listen to his podcasts and just wish that he shut up and let his guests speak
@@saynotocommunism 100%
If Eddie Hearn had made the comments about the gloves Simon would have been all over him!!
I suppose he's just passing on the message for his fighter
he would to be fair
“I think that Ben was probably ill advised” Simon Jordan is so compromised, it is pathetic,, lost all credibility as far as I’m concerned!
Skipped all the nonsense about promoters i come here for the fighter chat i dont care about the muppets who have stopped the fights happening for years
Everyone conveniently forgets these arses couldnt work together for years. Pathetic
100%🫡🇬🇧
I can't take Spencer Oliver serious after he told his idol AJ that he outboxed Usyk after their second fight....... he's a joke of a boxing 'expert'
Any heavyweight can KO any heavyweight if he lands
He's alright ,It's his mate both of them boxed for finchley, John Oliver spencers Dad helped guide AJ through his amatuer career it's his pal
Bang on...
You took him seriously before that?
@OrsJohn to be fair he's forgotten more than you know .
😂😂 imagine your Ben shalong and your best defence is Simon Jordan you then know your at rock bottom and boxing ain’t for you
Ben Shalong ffs 😂
You can’t even spell.
Adam talking sense to these fools when he says they are wrong to say that "best version of Tyson" nonsense to keep the Fury fan boys at bay.
Just look at 90% of these comments simons protection of shalom is shamefull 🤣🤣
Changed the headline of the video now I see. Hilarious this lot.
Spencer Oliver is painful to watch.
LoL at Simon trying to make out Ben was just passively passing on a concern - go and listen to Ben's original words on the subject!
Simon is definitely invested with boxxer
100%
Why are the Matchroom casuals moaning about Simon being involved with boxxer? You’ve loved Eggie Hearn controlling boxing social and IFL TV for years. Game changed 😂
More to the point why you switching accounts ?
You promotor groupies are ridiculous, They're pumped up salesman & as honest as 2nd hand car dealers ,it's about tge fighters you sausage
@@Jamesbe3keryes we didn't see the Alex account for months after Fury lost.
@@FURY_IS_STILL_A_FRAUD he still doesn’t think fury lost he’s mentally blocked that out his head he’s still undefeated lineal champion to Alex/james
@@Jamesbe3keryeah there all making lots of excuses for fury losing
Sinon jordan has no credibility in boxing
Smith has NO credibility in boxing !.
Adam Smith is such a helmet
Thank god. Glad someone agrees
@@roadtoman6647why are you glad someone agrees?
People say Shalom is not a big player but to have Simon Jordan 4 days a week as his PR Officer and cheer leader on national radio is a big move
The best version of Fury still doesn't beat USYK. USYK is a masterclass, league of his own and he battered Fury pillar to post
I think FURY can win. But it won't be easy. It has to be a knock out
I dont think fury has the capacity to ko usyk. This isnt wilder, and fury has aged since.
@@MannyRiberaOriginal FURY has aged but so has USYK. FURY will win the rematch by knockout 🥊🥊
No one has KO,d usyk or even dropped him, no way fury is doing it. this will be a clean win for usyk.
@@freedom4life123 maybe. But FURY is our last hope to get them belts back to Great Britain
@@Videoholic.2598Fury has aged himself by abusing his body. Usyk is fit 365 days a year. Age is just a number, but physical and neurological wear and tear are very real...
Shame on this channel. Yet again another hit piece when everyone know's Simon and Spencer have a vested interest. You only have to look at the likes of John Doherty, Rick Ramos and others in the industry that say Ben has been a real prick to deal with
Oooo kitty got claws
Don't think anyone has a good word to say except Simon Jordan who has a financial interest.
Yip him and Fake Shalom are best buddies and Simon hates Eddie as he's more successful than him and turned matchroom into a billion pound company and Simon hates that
*Ben Shalom and I. Good dude. We’ve come a long way. Thank you for your support brother. (We will do more business soon)*
- Rick Ramos
Warren fighters are beating Eddie's fighters big time. I don't know about all this other stuff. But I know that.
Adam voice is so grating. Talk normally
Ngl that 5v5 Boxxer v Matchroom looks great. Way better than I thought, especially given how people act like Shalom's stable is shite & Hearn's god gift to earth
Adam smith needs to learn to stfu and let people finnish speaking, constantly cutting people off
He was basically shouting all the time
Give him a break lads his a cancer survivor 🤔🤔🤔
From what I saw in the first fight, despite Fury’s spell of success in the middle rounds, I don’t think Fury has the beating of Usyk. Usyk not only maintains a pace that exhausts his opponents, he can suddenly flick the switch after coming under pressure, when his opponent least expects it. He did it in R8 against Fury, and he did it in R10 against Joshua. He just suddenly finds another gear when he needs it.
I'm a Fury fan but if he wins there has to be a trilogy with usyk. Fury can't just bugger off and fight AJ
Always great to see Simon and Spence and the bond they share even if I’m at either of their throats which I usually am I feel like they’ve towed me back into the hardcore world of boxing starting this show and Talksport’s boxing channel from the groundworks to the current point and Adam a legend of the game as great and unbiased as ever
did Adam Smith really just say '' THIS IS A PROPER FIGHT '' about the 2 best heavyweights on the planet doing a rematch after a brilliant first fight lmao
Love that they only used the Matchroom 5v5. What happened to Beatriz Ferriera vs Dubois,
Usyk beats Fury every day of the week and twice on Sunday😅😂
Never-beens and has-beens having petty arguments, making themselves sound important. Getting boring now.
Dalton smith. Last week begging for the Adam Azim. This week. “I don’t need Adam Azim” “Im not chasing Adam Azim”.
Someone’s changed their tune. 😂😂
For a disc jockey, he can present 😂. But unfortunately the voice of UK boxing outshined him
Usyk will knock Fury out this time..
They've both gotten so rattled to the point of threatening violence.
It's actually funny to see how easily Ben gets under the new lovebirds skins 😂😂
Simple Simon
Simon was brown nosing frank warren until frank called him a dog now simons moved on to shalom.
His energy for Frank has changed since he buddied up with Eddie.
It’s not really on the line because Fury was never gonna win against an all time cruiser weight legend like Usyk, Usyk is too good for the current division, Fury is elite but he could never hang with the all time great heavyweights
Frank has exposed Simon's bias and vested interest in Boxxer
Furys best performance by far in his career was the defeat to Usyk.
"The best version of Tyson Fury" turned up and it wasn't good enough.
His soul was broken in that fight.
He doesn't have the character to come back from that.
Stoppage win for Usyk within 8.
You all talk about the best version of Fury but it was against a hugely overated champion in Wilder
Fury toyed with Klitschko in Germany, who hadn’t lost in ten years!
@@OrsJohn and then ducked the rematch
That Boxxer v Matchroom card looks fun, hope it happens!
It’s usyk v fury 2
Ben Shalom becomes more & more likable each day. Eddie & Frank clearly enjoy making life difficult for him.
Love people talking over each other
Adam “before the 7th fury ruled”??? What fight was he watching 😂😂😂😂
Simon getting trying to get shalom out of a court case. ohhh bullying and Ben never said that. This is shocking the Talksport platform is being used for Simon's interests.
Gobbledeegook
Please learn how to write a coherent sentence!
@@OrsJohn hi Simon 👋
You can tell Adams in the mood got an argument here 🤣🤣
Adam doing a good job of not being a yes man and possibly upsetting folk
Usyk beats any version of Fury. Stop it Simon u casual
30:50 FINALLY!!!!!! Usyk gets some credit from Jordan!!! HALLELUJAH!!
Yarde should fight Hutchinson next so we can see where he’s at.
This was a tough listen. Spencer and Adam clearly clash. Neither wants to let the other one speak.
Both dropped by sky now picking up the crumbs
They are toning down what Ben said, he did say what Frank accused him off he didn’t say he was the “messenger” until Frank kicked off the next day
YEAH but even fans dont like Shalom. Its only because Boxxer is on Sky
Spencer is on Shaloms payroll and needs to LET PEOPLE SPEAK AND STOP TALKING OVER THEM
Jordan and Oliver are so reluctant to admit the truth which is that Usyk knows he can hurt Fury , Fury doesn't know he can hurt Usyk. Thats critical....
Adam Smith is pure class. Says it how it is.
Jeez, Smith is a 'firms' man, & is so scared to upset anyone, his favourite phrase is "Well its a 50/50 fight", he ALWAYS sits on the fence, he picked Bivol to beat Beterbiev & got it wrong, he almost never picks a winner, because the fence is so comfortable for him, all those years with sky, have made him a rubbish pundit ! !.
I hope Shaloms on a wind up. Eddie Hearn puts his fighters in as early as possible which is why he fighters lose so much, ain’t no hiding at DAZN, yet Adam azim isn’t fighting dalton Smith.
Funny joke. Nearly had me lol
Is that 28 year old supposedly world level Dalton Smith? Oh yeah Eddie has really chucked him in chasing a kid 😂😂
Conor Benn another 28 year old that Eddie has thrown in with the sharks. His best win is retired chef/commentator Algieri 🤣
Joseph Parker vs Daniel Dubois 🙏
Spencer absolutely loves the sound of his own voice
If I had a penny every time Spencer says, 'Listen'……
Adam spot on. Really show how little these 2 know about boxing 🥊
Distinguish between the two statements. When Ben Shalom mentions that they are investigating the gloves used by the opposing fighter, he is simply stating that there is an inquiry or review happening. This type of statement does not directly accuse anyone of cheating; it indicates that there is a concern or potential issue that needs to be looked into.
For something to be considered defamatory (such as libel in written form), the statement must be false and harm the reputation of the person or entity it concerns. Since Shalom's comment is about an investigation, it's more of a factual statement about a process rather than a direct accusation. Investigating something is not the same as stating that cheating occurred, so it wouldn’t typically expose him to libel proceedings unless he made false claims about the investigation's outcome or wrongfully accused someone of cheating without evidence.
By phrasing it as an investigation, Shalom is staying within safer legal territory.
Additionally, if Frank's assertions are made maliciously, and with the intention to harm Ben’s reputation or coerce them in some way, they could potentially lead to claims of harassment or abuse of legal process. Frivolous/baseless threats of legal action harm the credibility of the person making them and might expose them to counterclaims, such as defamation or harassment if they cross a line into false accusations or intimidation.
30:15 "Do we get a trilogy fight?" asks Spencer , why not? Just because Usyks not English doesn't mean he's not entitled to a decisive third fight....
I wouldn't ever call a fight tough when you beat your opponent 9 rounds to 3
Usyk has said it was his hardest fight
How about briedis? He arguably lost that fight...how was that not his hardest@@badgasaurus4211
Adam Smith put Spencer to shame here
Simon loses all credibility in the way he presents Shalom. Awful propaganda. By all accounts (from multiple sources) he’s an egotistical mess of a bloke
I know that furys tactics will be to be more aggressive from the 3rd 2 rnds seeing that attack I think usyk reads that and slows it down with strait left to furys chin fury can't take 1 to the chin anymore
I think its a big mistake if he comes in more aggressive, usyk is a master at boxing off the back foot.
@@freedom4life123Does Fury really have a choice though?
Unbeatable Champ Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
How has Yarde improved? Gasses in the back of the fight against Kovalev and that was 5 years ago. He's not getting any better and at 33 he has not beaten anyone of note.
The best version of Fury could'nt beat Usyk' s grandma.
Spencer ‘Legacy and Modern Eras’ Oliver 🤣
The best version of Tyson Fury was the one who fought Usyk, for christs sake already.
If Eddie hearn said that about gloves, Simon would be all over it
Wardley should fight AJ, Hergovic, Hughie Fury, Miller or chisora. That kind of level 🥊
The ref check’s the gloves when the fighters get in to the ring !! If there’s something wrong with them and the ref don’t say nothing !! then the ref must be at it ??
Eddie could freeze Adam Azim out of the 140 division apart from. Teo and Hiroka teh rest of the top 10 are with matchroom
Jordan says on this that Catterall doesn't get the attention he deserves. Hardly talks about it here, couple minutes at the end, cos he's only really capable of going on about 3 promoters (one in particular) and a bit about the big name heavyweights.
Funny how minimal Simon is being and almost correcting the conversation narrative to say Ben hasn’t said all the gossip that’s out there. Eddie or frank need to jump on there and say to Simon “narratives changed for you and your lil business buddy Ben”
What Ben said you dopes, was the medical man who operated on his fighter said no glove should ever do the damage that he was having to fix up, Ben just reiterated that and that only!
None of us know what was said all we know is what's being said now
exactly Simon can't wait to criticise Frank and Eddie when they say something in a interview yet Ben Shalom was just badly advised apparently
@@Airyed a few months ago, you would've been saying Simon was Team Queensberry and never criticises Frank. Keep moving those goalposts!
@@HisExcellencyB it's how he does it not if he does it
@@TheHarrybo1Well i watched the interview that sparked all this, so I know exactly what Ben said. This has all blown up because of people like Umar and Talksport running to Frank and getting him at it!
I watched the glove inspection “his gloves are a bit thin on the knuckles, but still are 10oz gloves and to me Gloves are Gloves” Clarke end of
Every single promoter is involved with Saudi no idea why we are making it out that 3 British promoters are important when a whole wild world exist
Comparing boxing to football is ridiculous!! You have a bad game in football you have 10 others to bail you out!! Boxing your all on your own in there!! Plus its alot more dangerous!!!
Simon needs to stop being offended on behalf of Shalom. Buatsi v smith and Azeez vs Richard’s maybe could be a fight on the 5v5?
It's crazy how much time is spent talking about absolute rubbish and so little time on the boxing come on guys forget about stupidness
What legacy? Fair enough he beat klitschko to become unified champ but about from that, what legacy. Not wilder because wilder has always been protected and cherry picked his whole career, like fury. For arguments sake take klitschko and wilder out of the equation and who has he fought for legacy.
He also has 3 defeats and not just 1
@@freedom4life123 yup. John mcdermott, wilder and usyk
@@counterfeitcloneWilder was not a loss that has been debunked time and time again. John McDermott is absolutely a loss however
Fair point dude! Do you think the 2nd fight will mirror the 1st or do you see any twists and turns.
I expect more forward pressure and aggression from Fury, if he's smart he will have realised he was having most success with body shots and uppercuts. A twelve round fight would be another cracker to watch. However i suspect it will not go the distance. Not wishing to sit on the fence but i genuinely believe either of them is capable of ending this one inside the distance.
Enjoy the fight dude!
You can’t take them out though.
He doesn't have a legacy yet, he beat deontay wilder who's worse than parker, the only credible win he has is klitschko who was past his best
Spencer has a massive head and short arms, he defied the odds getting anywhere in boxing
Boxing show where the host and guests spend the first half hour talking about promoter drama. Pathetic.
32:20 To suggest AJ doesnt deserve a fight with Fury is more nonsense from Jordan ; assuming Fury loses to Usyk again then why not? They'll have both lost twice to Usyk and Usyk will then be tied up with a unification with Dubois ; its a no brainer.
Spencer works for boxxer and sky, Simon goes round begging people to fund boxxer like it’s a charity, nice to see proper balance is on this channel 😂
name a channel that aint got their favourites out of all the big channels
@@saintdon4461the same guy would've been saying Simon Jordan was in bed with Frank a few months ago. They change their narratives when it suits them
@@HisExcellencyB promoter fanboys are a modern day phenomena
The noise Simon made at 50:45 when that little 🐀 Conor Benn’s game was mentioned🤣🤣
Fury has absolutely no "legacy"
He tip tap jabbed his way to a tedious win against a 40 year old world champ then needed a trilogy to establish superiority over the most overrated HW in the history of the sport ; a man who'd beaten not a single top 20 opponent in his career.
Other than that what has he achieved? Absolutely nothing apart from becoming the biggest mouth/self publicist of all time.
Exactly, and he knew he was bang in trouble with usyk and there was nowhere to hide , and usyk still smashed him up conceding 40lbs and a huge reach advantage 😂😂😂😂😂🥊🥊🥊
I'd almost put his trilogy of wins against Chisora as being above the Wilder wins now.
Won every belt there is to win in boxing, a 2 time Ring Magazine heavyweight champion, sold out Wembley stadium and has the chance to become a 3 time heavyweight champion.............. But yeah a random ponce who lives in his mother's basement and wanks over DC comics says Tyson Fury doesn't have a legacy 🤦🤦🤦🤦.... Fools 🤣🤣
FACTS. I HOPE USYK PUTS THIS FRAUDS FAKE LEGACY TO REST ONCE AND FOR ALL.
@@joewhite22 I agree....and this is a guy who's lost 13 times in his career so again, not much of an achievement.
I would put Fabio in with Parker or Anderson but I don’t think Anderson would take a 50/50 coming off a big defeat
if shimon isnt involved with ben slalon then he has a very funny way of showing it
Usyk completely shooled him, he'll iron him out this time. Usyk in a different league.
I thought Adam Smith wanted a clean break from boxing after his cancer recovery??
Did he say that? Thought fit he said he was stepping back from Sky specifically at first then said he’s open to new opps, hence setting up his own firm.
I enjoy listening to Simon normally, but these days he's just a mouthpiece for Ben Shalom. It's embarrassing 😂
Funny how Ben shalom takes abuse off other promoters but he never says any thing half as bad back.. if at all