Duke freshmen vs. Fab Five: How Zion Williamson's squad compares on & off court | College Basketball
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Zion Williamson headlines a dominant class of freshmen at Duke. In 1991, Chris Webber and Michigan's Fab Five captivated the country with highlight plays and hip-hop-inspired fashion choices.
Meet the freshman classes (:42), see how they compare head-to-head (2:12), understand the history of the rivalry (4:03), examine each's cultural impact (6:06) and consider their legacies (8:36).
Zion’s freshmen teammates: RJ Barrett, Cam Reddish, Tre Jones and Joey Baker.
Webber’s freshmen teammates: Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King and Ray Jackson.
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"Before the Fab 5, dudes was wearing panties out there" LOOL Cube
looked way better with the "panties"
And now this 🏳️🌈 generation wearing new level panties
@@chukuru
you ever seen a guy in a jock strap
shit look mad sexy
Jesus Christ stfu white boi
@@cordellboss of course you're vegan 🤦🏾♂️
Welp that debate is over, they'll never be anything like the Fab 5 again.. Duke didn't even make it to the final 4
Thank you
Finally someone says it 👍
They were better than the fab five. Jalen Rose, said it best, would this 18-19 Duke team beat the 91-92 Duke team? That is easy to answer, NO!!!! What all freshman class could??? That 91-92 Duke team is one of the top 5 teams of all time.
Absolutely right, Duke never made it to the Final 4 and that michigan class never won a championship...
Completely has nothing to do with anything based off how u judging it
@Everett DeLeon funny thing u idoits are judging how far each team went in more then 20s apart
It's kind of hard to compare because the Fab Five were more than just a team of great starting freshman. They were a cultural phenomenon that swept the nation.
2:46 SAS face had me dead
I hope now folks understand how special the Fab 5 were . This Duke team did not reach the final 4 and barely escaped the 2nd and 3rd round. Outside of Zion I wasn't impressed
James Smith same
Agreed James. I actually thought 2017-18 Duke was better. They sent their whole starting five to the NBA the next season.
what Fab 5 did culturally....
you couldnt compare with anything...
We are debating who was the better team. Not who influenced culture more
@@mickprather9959 talk to me when they get to the championship.... and it was a different era than now....
@@mickprather9959 you can't talk about one without the other.
Hak Hinton I don’t care about which era you played in. You will adapt to your era.
Let’s not forget they had 9 losses that season and lost to none other than Coach K by 20 in the finals... Not saying they weren’t good... just saying their influence on culture is what made them so big. Not the fact they were completely dominant
Edit: Because they weren’t dominant
I grew up in that era and the FAB 5 changed everything from the shorts, the long socks to their sneakers and the show boating it was amazing! The FAB 5 paved the way for other freshman to achieve there goals in college and in life. Dukes 2K5 are redefining the word FAB 5 with the way social media is nowadays its a level of achievement on both sides and let's not forget Dugan Fife! Man! What a shooter! Skittle Boys is in the comments!
Dugan Fife! LMAO! Hell, I forgot about him.
Ugh / bad knowledge dude
Unlv did it first
@@mlbonfox8199 actually, Texas Western Did it first.....
college basketball in the 90's....
good god....
How is no one commenting on the off the backboard reverse facial by Weber? God damn that was sick as hell
highflyer011 it wasn’t that sick you’re really gassing
Special for sure.
The Fab Five are the reason I love sports... period! They captured my imagination in middle school and were a cultural phenomenon. Can't wait to see where this Duke team ends up and would love Zion to play for my #knicks... Michigan wins 70-56, nobody stopping Dougan Fife!
Well, If they win it all then they will have rings to show for it. Fab Five lost twice and don’t even have the final four banners up in the Michigan gym.
To Pi Bro you can’t call someone an idiot and you didn’t even read the comment. He’s saying duke would have the rings to show for it if they win it all, while the fab five lost twice in the championship.
@@briteslider and To Pi, you are both fools. Jimmy Bonez comment about "don’t even have the final four banners up in the Michigan gym," is a dig about how Michigan had their Finals appearances taken off the record books because Webber took money. The President of the school then had employees take down the banners from the gym and lock them away in a storage area.
Alex H I never even spoke on that because it was irrelevant to my point. I know what he meant... You tried to be smart and failed kid.
@@briteslider there rings these days are not worth as much. College Basketball is shit today.
Ach Meez i never said they were
I know they were not freshmen but the 1990-1991 UNLV Running Rebels with Larry Johnson, Stacey Augmon, George Ackels, Greg Anthony, and Anderson Hunt paved the way for the Fab Five and that swag! Just my opinion
Ty.... I agree
True, that runnin' rebel team would have destroyed the Fab Five just as Duke did, but probably worse.
Win and survive
There's a lot of truth to this. I was a young teenager at the time absolutely IN LOVE WITH HOOPS. That UNLV team got a lot of coverage during their undefeated season, but when they lost their first game of the season to that Duke squad in the Final 4, it's like the focus shifted to Duke (who took the ball & ran with it... a lot because they had the main ingredient you need to have if you want people to keep talking about you... a lot of people hated those Blue Devils)... people simply stopped talking about that UNLV team. I don't think it helped matters that Larry Johnson didn't live up to the expectations folks had for him coming out of college. Whereas Chris Webber, Juwan Howard & Jalen Rose's stars shined brighter in the NBA.
D Armstrong Georgetown brought that swag before both UNLV and Michigan.
Stephen A’s reaction to jalen sayin zion wouldnt start on the fab 5 got me dead😂
Duke has 3 amazing players on that team, Michigan was referred to as the FAB FIVE for a reason. We'll never know, but besides having a better coach at Duke, that's about as far as that goes. Fab 5 by 10+.
Tre Jones is pretty amazing too
I’m sixteen turning seventeen soon and I Stratford watching basketball when I was 11 and 12. I never watched collage ball but my first game I watched it was when I saw Zion and the duke blue devils. They were amazingly talented.
This was a great video... brought back memories of my time as a student at Michigan, watching the Fab Five earn that legacy. Sad that we couldn't bring home the final trophy, and even sadder that, well, that would have been vacated by now anyways. Props to Mike K and the Dukies, they are perennial favorites no matter what the era. They finished off Coach Jerry Tarkanian (The Shark)'s UNLV squad that, once upon a time, the Fab Five themselves were compared to.
joey baker is a red shirt freshman who forewent his senior year. he should not be compared to ray jackson, and his playing time shouldn’t be used as a stat... bad analysis.
Matt Smith glad someone knows this ‼️‼️
Matt Smith I was waiting for someone to say it, they don’t know what they’re talking about over there sometimes
To be fair, he's the only other freshman on the Duke roster.
He's not relevant at all. Non athletic average college player. Perfect for DUKE 🙄
And he played really well for them in preseason. He looked much better than Jack White imo, and was surprised they decided to redshirt him to be honest.
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GREAT segment!
We need Marty McFly and Doc to set this game up!
FOR REAL!!! I grab the car and fix the flux compasitor....
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The thing about this duke team is that they was so hyped before they even played one game. Everyone expects them to win it all and it was a shocker that they even lost one game (no shocker to me). But the fab 5 had to prove themselves and and actually be dominate to get the hype train going. Honestly I believe these duke freshman are more talented top to bottom but the FAB 5 had the distinct advantage down low with C Web and Howard. It would be dope if they were able to play not just one game against each other but more of a series. Like a 3-5 game series. And I'm a Michigan guy but I don't really think even C Web could stop Zion from doing pretty much whatever he damn well chose to do on that court.
Just watched the documentry thing yesterday and never knew this as a young kid im so glad I watched it🔥🔥🔥🔥
very well put together video
You can’t compare this generation from the past generation whole different ball game respect to both teams fab 5 for life go blue💯
Zion is 40 lbs heavier than howard and c Webb when they were in the nba. The fab 5 wouldn't be able to guard him. Sorry old heads.
Lakeshow4life They played like men back then though. It’s not the pussy ball it is today.
He wouldn’t be posting up so that weight wouldn’t mean too much. C Webb used to have to guard Shaq some possessions due to mismatches and didn’t get Murdered as much as some Real Centers and Shaq was 320 at his lightest.
What he said ^^^
Not in today's NBA but back when they played they absolutely could. It's like people saying Jordan couldn't guard LeBron pssshh back then Jordan would have raped LeBron. He couldn't handle the D back then when you could hand check and face guard and stand in the Lane. Now you can't blow on someone and get called for a foul. But you're right the comparison isn't good bc the game has changed so much..
WAYNE PHILLIP JAMES Both James and Zion would play physical too then. That charge that Zion got called for wouldn’t get called, see how he wasn’t even trying to be physical and he toyed with them? Shut up
The one thing I like most in this video was the comment that coach K did.. just respect there!
this a great video
This argument was settled yesterday. Duke Bluedevils are overrated.
Jeffrey Meeks Zion ain’t
HB Realm I mean dont get me wrong he’s INSANE but not as good as Espn says he is
DanTheMnkyMan _ bro he is one of the best college player in a while he is very great
@@wavethetsunami7865 no
One Piece he is going to be amazing in the nba just watch
Why is there always a need to say who is better whenever there a slight similarities? Why cant both team be great?!
Action Jackson welcome to the world of sports media bro.
It’s wild seeing the gym at Apple Valley High school knowing that I played badminton there a few months ago
Every time I watch a sports mini doc or documentary ice cube always find ways to get in them
ESPN needs to stop over hyping these kids, they did the same thing with that Kentucky team that went undefeated until they reach the final four , they talk about them like they best thing since sliced bread and they throw them away in the trash once they don’t live up to they hype
Christopher Gutierrez The thing is these kids been hyped up before they got to Duke so now that they on the same team what you expect
Christopher Gutierrez this team is different, this team has two nba ready players that would be starting on some teams
You mean the Kentucky team .
Sergio Morales yeah i just made the correction thanks anyways
Mike Love Thyself that Kentucky team had Anthony Davis
The just lost in the elite 8 I’m actually so happy
I used to love college basketball loved it! Then one year maybe 2 and gone I totally understand going to the NBA but could you imagine what teams we would be talking about. I understand this is freshman teams. Will we ever discuss UNLV or that Duke team? I hope so
I’m an Ohio Buckeye through and through. I’ll take the M fab 5 all day long. They were so much fun when I was a kid. I didn’t care what people thought.
Do any of u know what instrumental is used between 0:00 and 0:38?
These teams nowadays don't even compare to the teams of the early 90's, the Fab 5 were freshmen playing against experienced senior driven teams that were 3 and 4yrs older than them.. Just about everyone in college basketball today are freshmen and sophomores, great players don't stick around anymore like they did back then..
I'mma 80's baby so I gotta go with them Wolverines. I remember being sick when they lost to North Carolina in '93.
Fab 5 defined basketball until this day in so many ways. That was a one in a lifetime thing. We won't see it again.
I have a feeling a team should pull a 2k move and get both the first and the second draft pick and pair up rj and zion. I mean they already have the chemistry and of course the talent. So why not?
sagi alex the top 3 picks of this years draft will be so heavily valued that it will be almost impossible to get both
Outside of doing something stupid, like if PHX trades Devin Booker for the #1 pick, teams simply don't have the assets to acquire two top 2 picks. I mean, if you're one of the teams whose is bad enough to finish in the lottery with a chance to win a top 2 pick, then you're not very good. I guess maybe the Knicks could do it, but then you're talking trade Porzingis for the other top 2 pick... Why do that? Anything short of a major young star like Booker or Porzingis, no other team sitting with a top 2 pick is going to deal it away when Zion & RJ are sitting right there. No amount of future draft picks will do it because those future draft picks are not guaranteed top 2 picks and the talent in future drafts won't be as proven as Zion & RJ already are... it's not a 2k move. It's impossible unless you want to trade a proven NBA young superstar for a college freshman.
hopefully the knicks do 😂😂😂
DUKEEE i live about 30 mins from durham, carolina fans ill this year😂
They not Ill. They break out the Duke jerseys from the closet... Just like y'all have ur unc jerseys hanging up just incase... A state full of flip floppers
@@dc7236 thats defn not true you obv. know nothing ab this rivalry ive never worn anything with unc on it in my life and my buddyz that are unc fans have never worn anything witg duke on it. spend some time in NC and youd know what you said is just dumb. no disrespect
This video is dope
2014 Kentucky Wildcats started five freshmen: Julius Randle, James Young, Andrew and Aaron Harrison and Dakari Johnson. They weren't dominant in the regular season but made it all the way to the NCAA finals, just as the Fab Five did. (They actually had a sixth McDonald's All-American, Marcus Lee, in addition to the the five aforementioned.)
The fab five didnt win shit in college OR NBA level. Jury is still out on Duke's freshmen, especially Barrett and Zion, but it seems those two are going no.1 and no.2 in the draft with Cam Reddish a lock for top 5 too.
alansmith888 Howard won at the end of his career
@@xavierrodriguez7938 Being the last man on the bench doesnt really count does it.
alansmith888 goes to show you how hard it is to win a ring tho
@@xavierrodriguez7938 Only if you aren't a top player, like the fab five WERENT.
alansmith888 what has duke won? Asking for a friend
Jalen rose always talking like he was actually something special in the NBA 😂😂😂
He was an above average player. He knows how good/bad he was. He is always making fun of himself and his playing career.
No he don't. He ALWAYS talk FAB 5.
Watch his touch at free throw line, standstill three point shot, post up game, off ball and on ball defense, rebounding above rim.
Ice Cube, “Before the Fab Five, they were wearing panties!”😂😂😂
I agree with Jalen, but 8:00 made my heart stop a lil... Jesus Christ!!!
That boys elbow was above the rim, ridiculous hops!
Hol' up
Isn't jalen rose the dude that Kobe dropped 81 on?
It’s funny how everyone knows that but no one can name the same thing on Wilts 100
LMAO
Shoe-ters 23 because wilt played against all bums
Lazo Fire yea I guess that’s true but do you get my point
@@shoe-ters2312 im still not believing he scored 100 if he did that means they played no defense
Make a part 2
I'm not here to debate but man being from Detroit them two years were great ...I was young but not dumb...I remember skipping school because they drew a 12:00 noon opening game...was a great time for sports in Michigan....
The game was different. Players stayed in school longer. The competition was a lot better when the Fab -Five played. Simple
Jalen Rose got some new targets to hate on.....
Best all around basketball talent in college history enough said. Don't comment or react just keep watching the stud Zion
0.48 alley oop with complete windmill in transition 😵😵😵
Christian Lattner did not turn out to be God.
In college he was.. Dude was balling at Duke since his freshman year.
In college he definitely was...he was also an NBA all star and had a pretty long career.Guy was a stud
This nigga wasn't even Moses when he hit the league...smh
MarsRacingNetwork in college he was good the league hell no he was not that good
Please, zion is better than jordan and Len bias in college. Zion can post up anyone in nba right now, Janis lebron Durant etc.drawing double teams. Harden is getting All calls and Zion won't, come on haters, quit hating
Basketball was alot more physical and the competition was stiff back then.
But there's still defense in the NCAA
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} bro the competition is even more stiff today cuz more players r going to college and players r getting better. The fuck r u talking about
@@aaronsutton2956 exactly this fuking idoit are stuck in the past basketball has changed there so many better players then back in the day another thing this fuking idoits dont get is that just because it was physical dont mean they had good defense
kevin jjj ok go watch some of those games back then and you will definitely see there is a difference. Wasn’t lil ticky tack fouls they actually let you play. I know wtf im talkin about
@@Kenxclout u stupid yall say the same shit about the NBA go check stats and u will see that its literally the same fuking shit except steals because back then the ball handlers were fuking ass
The thumbnail was great
Y'all did Joey Baker dirty in this vid.
It's interesting as the current Duke team will never have to face an elite upper classmen led team. As all the best upper classmen are long gone by the time their senior year comes around. Hell, the University of Hartford which has a bunch of seniors on the team, gave them trouble, until their point guard got hurt. Imagine what a team led by Christian Laettner (probably a top 10 best college basketball players ever). Cherokee Parks was the #1 ranked high school recruit in 1991 according to HoopScope (the source that they use in this video). He couldn't even crack the starting lineup at Duke.
Top 10?, man Laettner is arguably the greatest college basketball player of all time lol
@@ezekielrage7590 I still have Alcindor, Walton, Bird, and Pistol Pete ahead of him. Most clutch of all-time, Laettner wins easily
@@alexh8613 Clutch is all that matters in the big games.
@@christschool Robert Horry is clutch, but I wouldn't put him in the all-time greats category. Laettner was clutch, but those other players were significantly better
@@alexh8613 Robert Horry? Really? No, the other players were not better. Go to a stat page on that team. I'm guessing you're under 40?
Well if they know how many time outs they have... they win already
Fab 5 that cashmere fan 5 jackets Still rocking it to this day
Fab 5 was so hard they will never be duplicated i use to look at Iverson at Georgetown and u could see their influence
Hell...this years Duke team would not have beaten the UNLV team Larry Johnson, Stacey Augmon, Moses Scruggs, Anderson Hunt, and Greg Anderson..FOR REALS
Agreed!
Thank You!!!! I rocked with The Fab 5, But they were not the first to rep the culture. UNLV and before them Georgetown in 83-‘85 had that flavor (Even though their shorts were tight). And I think you got one of the NV cats name wrong. I believe it was Moses Scurry
You out of your fucking mind the lost to Gonzaga. Wtf
They would smash that unlv, was a unlv fan and went to their camp and zion would dominate every team in history of game, wooden teams Bobby knight, calipari.chew on that.
@@cphartney23 that's ridiculous! They couldn't even beat the Duke team from that year much less the UCLA Kareem team...Nolan Richardson's Arkansas team..or the Shaq led LSU team
Rj Barret would put 81 on Jalen Rose
@xtraplays123456789 cant tell him to shut up if its true😂😂😂
xtraplays123456789 I have nothing against fab 5 but putting 81 on Jalen Rose would be deja vu..
@xtraplays123456789 I never lived when they were playin but I knew who they r so dont judge on my opinion😂
You stupid ass old heads don’t realize we can watch tapes and look at stats and shit
I guess people forgot about UNLV in 90 with their baggy shorts. And they were a great team. Anthony, Hunt, Augman, Johnson, Butler. Also screaming Moses Scurry and Tark the Shark(RIP)
0:43 that stare though
I was in high school when the fab five was rolling at Michigan and I’ve watched all of Duke’s games that I can. Duke definitely has the athletic edge, and the defensive edge, and I believe they could outscore anyone (oh and they are coaches by the best ever, Michigan had issues controlling their kids, much less having them play within a team unit) they are both great, and Michigan was first to do it at a time when freshman good enough to be in the nba were in the nba (usually). I can’t see a way in which (if possible) Duke would not not win at least 7of 10 games against that Michigan team.
Pause @8:01 HOOOOWWWW!!! He is 275lbs
KobethaGOAT Bryant exactly lol....what player on the fab 5 is guarding that guy 1-on-1 or in the open court? Duke would destroy them
Anyone have a link to Joey Bakers dunk on R.J. Barrett?
They are unfathomably good! I can't wait to see them play tonight!!! Oh wait that would be Texas Tech and Virginia.... LOL
Easy way to settle it. 10 years from now the Fab 5 will still be well know and this years Duke team will just be another team. Fab 5 changed the game.
Thats actually a virtually impossible way to settle it because it would require time travel, but good try.
Fab 5s biggest contribution was that making fashion statements was more important than being clutch enough to win the tournament that should have been automatic for them. When I hear fab 5 the "fab" sounds like something the director of a fashion show would use to describe an outfit, who the fuck says fab?
Gu gu bk hi uh jjnjsjsn bbn.nonp
@@ltzp2 Automatic for them? Damn your an idiot,. That Duke team they played was one of the best college teams of all time plus they were seniors and defending national champs vs 5 Freshman. Stop blowing things way out of proportion to fit your own narrative. They were an excellent team on the court and changed basketball and the culture around it forever. If you can't wrap your head around that then gtfo.
@@evandigiovanni5452 they were trash
Bro why can't I find RJ getting dunked on anywhere
You also gotta give respect to the Fab Five’s inspiration, Larry Johnson’s UNLV Runnin Rebels. They attribute lot of their swag from that team.
Zion @ 8:00 insane!!!
*I hope Zion goes to ATL & gets matched up with Trae & whoever the Hawks take with DAL & OKC’s pick🔥*
that would probably be a good fit style wise and, as a humble kid, Zion would probably do well being fairly close to home--from South Carolina I think.
@@mike2687 Yeah he's from South Carolina
mike collins Zion humble? Seriously?
@@danakaleb4882 - seriously... He's a beast on the court but he carries himself well in every interview I've seen thus far--mature, grateful, happy and humble--haven't heard anything yet that that would make me think otherwise, seriously.
Barret or Zion in Atl would be the shyt. I want Barret and Daniel Gafford the Marcus Camby clone. Hawks Coming.
Gimme the fab five 7 days a week
Arian Christopher Man please my duke boys washed them in 92
@@clarkjonathan702 you own Duke do you? Dude, that was a senior and all American laden team Vs 5 freshman. Defending champs at that. The fact that UM hung around was impressive.
Joe Jackson x Ike turner Tax time pimp the 92 duke team would beat this current duke team
Arian, so you'll take the losers?
Timeout! Oh wait
I want to see this year's michigan team vs duke in the final four this year
The Fab Five made a university basketball team an International icon before the Internet was commercially viable. As an Aussie, I heard about the Michigan Wolverines before I knew all of teams playing in the NBA.
When he said Zion wouldn't start I was like
WHAT THE HELL WRONG WITH YOU
Peyton list 😂😂😂😂 OK😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh
fab five did so much more for basketball. When they played basketball wasn't as popular as it was today.
@0.16 hahah.. That was Webber in fast motion bruh!
The Fab Five were literally embarrassed and outclassed in the NC. These kids really didn't live up to their hype. They had 8 losses in an inferior league that year too. The Duke players at the time wore T-Shirts during warm up that said "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?". That was a direct diss against the Fab Five.
Who the hell is joey baker
Celo Bernard - Duke freshmen that reclassified to be on this years team. He hasn’t played any minutes yet so more than likely he will be redshirting this season. Don’t sleep on Joey tho.... he is skilled and his time will come.
I agree with Jalen when he said could this team beat the 91-92 Duke team that beat them. Now we can talk. Couldn't stand the Fab 5, but they were fun to watch. LETS GO DEVILS!
whats the song when they are taking pictures of RJ Barret
I'd take the Fab 5 over any Freshman group. Duke freshmen are too soft, they're this generation players. The Fab 5 were physical and dogs out there. They would've feasted on these cupcake players.
J Bossalini depends what era we’re playing in. In today’s game fab 5 wouldn’t be able to use that physically and would foul out by haft time
You have to play the way the game is called by the refs. Basketball in the late 80s early 90s was played and called much different than the game is called today. Soft, really? Come on man. Every Duke player gets after loose balls, every single 1 of them will dive on the floor or out of bounds for a loose ball. These Duke kids are definitely not soft, not in the least little bit. Hey haters are gonna hate though right?
Duke is good but not better than the Fab Five 💪
Bullshit, Duke is 10x's better
This beat is fire, anyone know how to get it?
The 1990 UNLV should be honorably mentioned.
Why is unlv forgotten about when it comes to setting the cultural trend
unlv wasnt all 5 freshman larry johnson was a juco player of the year then became a college player of the year...unlv influence Michigan nobody knocks them anderson hunt was big for jalen and webber
Ty ... I agree
Jah’s squad in 2014 with Cook, Jones and Winslow was a far better team than this one.
I want to see a Michigan-Duke final this season.
None of the Duke freshmen would call a timeout they didn't have.
Fab 5 would get demolished by the Blue Devils!!!
Nope can't even get to the championship game in this watered down CBB
1:54....my man was like " oh snap , ok I see ya , I do not want to be on a poster as a high schooler"... LMAO
Nice to see coach k got off his high horse to recruit some real talent.
Anyone after the MSU loss LOL