Chris Webber’s ongoing beef with Jalen Rose has kept Michigan’s legendary “Fab Five” from reuniting

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
  • Chris Webber and Jalen Rose were recruiting rivals growing up in Detroit, but that didn't stop them from being close friends. They were so close, in fact, that Rose followed Webber to the University of Michigan, joining a legendary 1991 recruiting class that came to be known as "The Fab Five." Those five guys revolutionized college basketball and won a whole lot of games, but lost both their trips to the NCAA Final. The second of those losses came after Webber's infamous timeout call. And all those wins? They've been vacated because of a sprawling scandal that included a booster, a gambling ring, and payouts to a number of Wolverines players, including Webber.
    So the "Fab Five" legacy is complicated, in large part because of Webber's mistakes. And that fact has fueled decades of beef between the former best friends. Webber has come across as sensitive and standoffish about his past, while Rose has perhaps been too aggressive in pushing Webber to apologize for his past. This beef between them has showed in TV programs, documentaries, and books, and it's only gotten worse.
    This episode of Beef History tells the tale of a friendship turned feud, with the hope that airing things out might help put the "Fab Five" and their legacy back where they ought to be: together, and prominent in Michigan history.
    Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
    Shot and edited by Ryan Simmons
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  • @williammurphy4519
    @williammurphy4519 2 года назад +437

    Chris Webber to Mitch Albom "They are getting $85 dollars for a Jersey with my name on it and I can't afford to get a pizza". The NCAA is the true antagonist in this story.

    • @imarriedabrkfsttaco3737
      @imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 2 года назад +31

      The school and all involved reaped 10's of millions of dollars marketing The Fab Five yet the players weren't compensated at all. Just their scholarships really.

    • @1D4ever
      @1D4ever Год назад +8

      Exactly I couldn't care less if Chris had the M for Michigan in his pocket.

    • @hunterwade9030
      @hunterwade9030 Год назад +2

      And now College sports are broken so good job

    • @fredthompson1387
      @fredthompson1387 Год назад +11

      Chris Webber came from a middle class Family, Father worked for auto manufacturer and Mother was a school teacher. Loved to portray himself as coming from the ghetto. That wasn't true. He could afford a pizza

    • @Rusty-ev3mm
      @Rusty-ev3mm Год назад

      The University of Michigan is the true antagonist. They were knowingly letting a criminal launder illegal money through their basketball program to get high level players. Ed Martin got all that money from an illegal gambling operation that he conducted at Ford auto plants. To launder the money he made, he'd entice high level recruits with the promise of money, then when they did play for Michigan, he'd loan them hundreds of thousands of dollars with the intent they'd pay him back after going pro.

  • @MaverickZ007
    @MaverickZ007 4 года назад +602

    To Quote Charles Barkley " everythings cool until the BOOK comes out"

    • @victorwilliams1167
      @victorwilliams1167 4 года назад +10

      No one can Prove a Lie & Yahshua is the WAY the TRUTH & The Life ( John 14 : 6 )

    • @a.n4524
      @a.n4524 4 года назад +7

      @@victorwilliams1167 The bible is a book of contradiction, check out the one message foundation.

    • @waldo-ot6ul
      @waldo-ot6ul 3 года назад +15

      @@a.n4524 i really think you need to do more research on false accusations

    • @larryparham2726
      @larryparham2726 3 года назад +1

      @@waldo-ot6ul amen people always darken counsel without knowledge not knowing an account will be given

  • @JohnDoe-ec4fj
    @JohnDoe-ec4fj 4 года назад +200

    Damn, Rob Pelinka be in the middle of everything lol.

  • @skill14
    @skill14 4 месяца назад +24

    I just flipped the tv and saw the Fab Five reunited at the Michigan game for the first time and immediately thought of this vid. Lol

  • @RobertDGordon
    @RobertDGordon 5 лет назад +1031

    Even their hairlines still beefing... neither one is backing up.

    • @kb4231
      @kb4231 5 лет назад +88

      Which makes me jealous

    • @eb5857
      @eb5857 3 года назад +16

      Good One

    • @stevenrondina9628
      @stevenrondina9628 3 года назад +23

      Damn this is a good one.

    • @t99155
      @t99155 3 года назад +7

      💯😭

    • @vernardc7579
      @vernardc7579 3 года назад +9

      That was good lol 😆

  • @egyptianexcellence8861
    @egyptianexcellence8861 5 лет назад +4288

    Scottie Pippen vs Isiah Thomas PLEASE.

    • @jebkush1052
      @jebkush1052 5 лет назад +38

      Hmmm honestly didn't know about this one

    • @egyptianexcellence8861
      @egyptianexcellence8861 5 лет назад +152

      Jeb Kush it’s. Still. Going. LOL

    • @smokesletsgo8180
      @smokesletsgo8180 5 лет назад +158

      I've been trying to get that or Michael Jordan vs Isaiah Thomas but sb nation hates that topic I guess

    • @two4eight62
      @two4eight62 5 лет назад +46

      How about Isiah vs Mike

    • @two4eight62
      @two4eight62 5 лет назад +32

      Either way I'm into it. Maybe it's better to do Pippen Isiah and then there can be a Jordan section.

  • @cflo1386
    @cflo1386 5 лет назад +2487

    Colin Cowherd vs marriages please

    • @Juice-ig3jz
      @Juice-ig3jz 4 года назад +26

      😂😂😂

    • @maebell7109
      @maebell7109 4 года назад +9

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ethanthompson2411
      @ethanthompson2411 4 года назад +8

      Damn 😂😂😂

    • @yell0wberry
      @yell0wberry 4 года назад +30

      JL I don't think he likes Stephen a Smith too much, but he's definitely scared to death of Jim Rome for some odd reason

    • @pawrestlingchamp
      @pawrestlingchamp 4 года назад +27

      john jones Jim Rome hasn’t been relevant in a decade. Does he still work for ESPN?

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 5 лет назад +921

    Jalen and Chris need to have sit down conversation one on one like IT and Magic did

    • @lnapjr76
      @lnapjr76 4 года назад +94

      That would be top three all-time.
      1) Magic and Isaiah
      2) Kobe and Shaq
      3) Jalen and Chris
      The first two have happened and were great. We need to get that 3rd conversation.

    • @ikejay
      @ikejay 4 года назад +4

      Word because I like both of them off the court. I like Chris more though on and off the court

    • @Dud512
      @Dud512 4 года назад +7

      Id love to see a Players Only between Chris and Jalen

    • @jakelang806
      @jakelang806 4 года назад +14

      Same with J Kidd, Jim Jackson and Jamal Mashburn.

    • @jakelang806
      @jakelang806 4 года назад +11

      shoot so do Mike and Chuck.

  • @LGib01
    @LGib01 5 лет назад +1653

    Bill Simmons vs ESPN?
    Jalen Rose vs the # 81?
    Sports fans vs Molly Qerim?

    • @3headachesNOW
      @3headachesNOW 5 лет назад +7

      Black Mamba nightmares

    • @casinotee9987
      @casinotee9987 5 лет назад +57

      I'll take care of molly for yall sports fanatics🍆🍆🥊🥊😍😍😎😎

    • @persianOUTKAST
      @persianOUTKAST 5 лет назад +10

      Jalen already did a funny video about the 81 scored on him.
      it was a few years back, on the now defunct *Grantland* channel, w/ David Jacoby.
      it was part of their *"Jalen & Jacoby"* show, called *"Story Time w/ Jalen Rose"* .
      *ESPN:* ruclips.net/video/JdXXdXReIJQ/видео.html
      *_note:_* since *ESPN* has all the video/content rights of *Grantland* , i think they might've shortened the video linked above & made it more family friendly (& less _in your face_ ) then the video originally was.

    • @mickeyfrancese4775
      @mickeyfrancese4775 5 лет назад +2

      Bahaha lmao @ "Jalen v 81" 😂😂😂

    • @melanatedgod5337
      @melanatedgod5337 5 лет назад +4

      I'm for the latter! I hate that trick!!!

  • @theophilusjones6024
    @theophilusjones6024 4 месяца назад +15

    The beef is over! The Michigan Fav 5 reunited in Michigan for the first time since 93… we need some kind of video by Seth or Clara 👀👀

  • @brandonkeisler86
    @brandonkeisler86 5 лет назад +617

    I love seeing Reggie sitting next to Web when he's talking about Jalen. Just look at his face, he ain't hearing that.

    • @airving
      @airving 5 лет назад +132

      Yeah because he knows playing with Jalen is that he is an honest guy.

    • @jonmcclane7433
      @jonmcclane7433 5 лет назад +51

      Yes!!! I thought the exact same thing

    • @ValensBellator
      @ValensBellator 5 лет назад +67

      Yeah that was really awkward, didn’t even give him a pity smirk.

    • @arthurhogan8849
      @arthurhogan8849 4 года назад +17

      THE BATMAN : I got the same impression; like he either knows better regardless to what Chris was saying, or, he just doesn't like Chris.

    • @mikhail6884
      @mikhail6884 4 года назад +28

      reggie has an eternal brotherhood with jalen for being his teammate for a while, specially with the good team they made in the 90's, but because webber and miller are fellow hof'ers without a ring, they are standing on the same level and technically, can't diss each other. basketball status is eternal even after players retired.

  • @keyskillah6352
    @keyskillah6352 5 лет назад +445

    "Maybe by the time your watch this"
    Which was today
    Good luck Juwan

    • @dmoney21
      @dmoney21 4 года назад

      @Michigan fan O-H

    • @tds42099
      @tds42099 4 года назад

      Why do you say that? Have they squashed the beef?

    • @ryanahrens7416
      @ryanahrens7416 3 года назад

      @@dmoney21 I-O

  • @SerjEpic
    @SerjEpic 5 лет назад +1993

    Next Beef History Enes Kanter vs the Turkish Government

    • @Fj3
      @Fj3 5 лет назад +23

      Hey, @SB Nation, look at this!

    • @trevorharmon1
      @trevorharmon1 4 года назад +45

      Turkey kills thousands of political dissidents

    • @bigstupidgrin
      @bigstupidgrin 4 года назад +3

      too real

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 4 года назад +37

      @@trevorharmon1 which is why kanter is a bad ass.

    • @corteneylove7699
      @corteneylove7699 4 года назад +13

      That’ll actually make a good documentary lol

  • @gabrielmejia6567
    @gabrielmejia6567 5 лет назад +766

    Ray Allen vs KG and the Celtics

    • @lomthemotto
      @lomthemotto 5 лет назад +18

      Gabriel Mejia you mean rondo

    • @leesnips2692
      @leesnips2692 5 лет назад +3

      ^^ Kg vs Ray Allen is gonna be good I feel it

    • @soldierbreed
      @soldierbreed 5 лет назад

      Ive heard that one to death please no

    • @ShifuCareaga
      @ShifuCareaga 5 лет назад

      doesn't everyone know this though?

    • @6aliph77
      @6aliph77 5 лет назад +1

      Ray vs rhondo or ray vs Paul Peirce

  • @jetblackfox
    @jetblackfox 5 лет назад +201

    That was simply a perfect encapsulation of the nature of the beef that most of us basketball fans didn't even fully understand. It's all personality driven and these two brothers should take the example of Magic and Isiah and squash the beef publicly.

    • @RapOvrDos
      @RapOvrDos 4 года назад +8

      JB Fox Webb gotta admit he was wrong tho

    • @centerwarren
      @centerwarren 3 года назад +20

      Mr Rose is a sale out. Instead of using his notoriety to show how harsh the penalty was. He promotes Mr Webber as the villain. I wouldn’t take to his ___ either.

    • @pistolpete3199
      @pistolpete3199 Год назад

      Why it gotta be public?

    • @1D4ever
      @1D4ever Год назад

      @@centerwarren I agree

  • @pendletondrew
    @pendletondrew 4 года назад +55

    It seems to me like Webber just wants to move on and forget about it and Jalen can’t stop talking about it. So who is it really bothering more? 😂

  • @ToumapassarZEZOCA
    @ToumapassarZEZOCA 5 лет назад +1385

    This is one of the best videos you've ever made. Amazing

    • @bwen18
      @bwen18 5 лет назад +2

      I felt the same and was going to make a post similar to yours until I saw your post

    • @mikevargas4343
      @mikevargas4343 5 лет назад +5

      So Amazing and so sad...I don't know them personally but I'm rooting for them to get along to form the Fab 🖐 again...

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs 5 лет назад +3

      @@bwen18 Understandable that the best player, Webber, wants to separate himself from his twice defeated college team.

    • @cs1458
      @cs1458 5 лет назад +6

      Right? I had to keep rewinding (heh) because it's packed with good stuff.

    • @RADIO1990
      @RADIO1990 5 лет назад +1

      I just " discovered" this page, but I agree,this is a good video.

  • @dcaseng
    @dcaseng 5 лет назад +280

    Sometimes it's just best to let things die and move on.
    Chris Webber is clearly not comfortable revisiting his past, and jalen rose seems to go out of his way to make sure people don't forget about Webber's past indiscretions. At this point I have to be honest and start questioning jalen rose's motives. Why is it so important to keep this Supposed legacy alive?

    • @rhideflory
      @rhideflory 5 лет назад +109

      C-Webb is comfortable in his own skin after having a successful pro career that is worthy of HOF consideration and should have been in before T-Mac was ever considered.. Jalen on the other hand, while not a scrub, is best known for his Fab Five career than pro career. C-Webb was a winner at each of his pro stops. He put the Sacramento Kings on the map and was the victim of a more heinous sports crime in the rigging of the 2002 WCF.

    • @namari9350
      @namari9350 4 года назад +2

      I Said What I Said Sacramento queens fans I stg 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 4 года назад +10

      You're thinking Jalen has an issue but guess what that legacy meant alot to the others not the whole team played in the NBA coincidence that only Webber isnt in the doc but everyone else was? Chris is and was selfish Jalen stood for not just the program but his coach and teamates. Jalen made money and lives a good life but for some of those guys and the coach and the program this meant alot and Webber ruined it with his selfishness

    • @Pasicho
      @Pasicho 4 года назад +6

      I Said What I Said A winner a each of his pro stops? He lost in college in a historic way. He lost in the NBA in a historic way. I’m one to bring up a players positives to measure greatest but that’s empirically false.

    • @fitofito1001
      @fitofito1001 4 года назад +9

      I Said What I Said T-Mac is in HOF but Webber isn’t? This is ridiculous.

  • @Fj3
    @Fj3 5 лет назад +557

    Who's here after Jalen Rose proclaims that Juwan Howard's UM Coach signing will bring the Fab Five back together (including he and Chris Webber)?
    At least me.

  • @gavinsansbury988
    @gavinsansbury988 3 года назад +72

    And we finally have a peaceful resolution... thank you Jalen and Chris for giving us a nice, touching moment on ESPN.

  • @abp1400
    @abp1400 5 лет назад +813

    This is the reason Webber keeps on getting skipped over for HOF...

    • @corey5526
      @corey5526 5 лет назад +58

      I think you're right.

    • @nahheio
      @nahheio 5 лет назад +111

      J Day ?

    • @fredx239
      @fredx239 5 лет назад +74

      How's this racist by any means?

    • @Cppowell23
      @Cppowell23 5 лет назад +4

      And didn't make it this year!

    • @Zblactookyohat
      @Zblactookyohat 5 лет назад +22

      He don’t deserve it anyways imo

  • @monkeywithchainsaw1
    @monkeywithchainsaw1 5 лет назад +520

    Can we get a deep rewind on the 1997 NCCA mens basketball tournament? Its Arizona's only championship and they came out of no where to upset 3 number 1 seeds and win it all.

    • @3rdninches
      @3rdninches 5 лет назад +1

      monkeywithchainsaw1 I agree with this. If auburn wins out this year they will get a doc in the future.

    • @gunjac86
      @gunjac86 5 лет назад +17

      Came out of nowhere? They were a four seed, had 3 future first round draft picks. That team was awesome and should be talked about but not because they came out of nowhere.

    • @elbowgang9715
      @elbowgang9715 5 лет назад +20

      @@gunjac86 that team was 19-9 before the tournament started . No one had them winning the national championship but yeah they certainly weren't unknown

    • @BeefPapa
      @BeefPapa 5 лет назад +1

      Bibby, Dickerson and Miles Simon on that team?

    • @n1k3inthehouse
      @n1k3inthehouse 5 лет назад +1

      3 seed Texas tech might do it against 1 seed Virginia. History sometimes repeat itself

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 4 года назад +136

    I knew I remembered Rob Pelinka from somewhere. I thought I was going crazy.

  • @TheAcer1981
    @TheAcer1981 4 года назад +166

    Rose milked the Sh** out of this beef. I'm sure that he's got a huge merch of " Time out", " One dude" and "I'm not elated by this news".

    • @Whatacomedian_
      @Whatacomedian_ 3 года назад +12

      It was definitely something that pushed him forward in his career. Shill or not. A player that discusses personal issues with another player? Thats gold tv. And he knew it.

    • @kyrianb
      @kyrianb 3 года назад +14

      @@Whatacomedian_ I totally agree. Whatever Webber did wrong, shouldn't have been made public by Jalen and Jalen clearly benefited from it.

    • @russelljohnson437
      @russelljohnson437 3 года назад +3

      @@kyrianb lol when you’re a snake and a huge liar that’s not anybodies fault but Chris’s. Shouldn’t have been such a weenie Chris is a snake smh.

  • @jbj7599
    @jbj7599 5 лет назад +707

    Aaron Rodgers vs mike McCarthy beef.

    • @gioperales2880
      @gioperales2880 5 лет назад +9

      McCarthy would put paws on a rod

    • @biglicker4473
      @biglicker4473 5 лет назад +4

      Teflon DaDon you silly😂 but man i can see it

    • @jackwilliams6706
      @jackwilliams6706 5 лет назад +12

      I say let that one simmer a bit we might not've seen the end of it yet

    • @Blaftuned
      @Blaftuned 5 лет назад +2

      Would be good but too early so much could happen

    • @atom0824
      @atom0824 5 лет назад

      we need this

  • @smashboogietheilladelic5740
    @smashboogietheilladelic5740 5 лет назад +72

    We will always love the fab 5 in DETROIT no matter what happens internally .

  • @gregorcollins
    @gregorcollins 5 лет назад +84

    Not a lot of comments about the incredible and inspiring (and accurate) writing and storytelling that went into this piece. Really nice work, Seth and Ryan.

  • @FunnyGuy10009
    @FunnyGuy10009 3 года назад +173

    It just seems like Jalen Rose wants to live on his college legacy forever while Chris is okay with leaving it in the past

    • @guffhuff4746
      @guffhuff4746 3 года назад +29

      @C Jalen definitely had a good career. Fringe all star in his prime, scored 20 PPG for some teams, he had a solid career

    • @Jermardrst
      @Jermardrst 2 года назад +2

      Thats because Webber through the College Championship w that time out. ALL YOUR SPORTS ARE RIGGED

    • @bigjohnson27
      @bigjohnson27 2 года назад

      @C yes Jalen did tf

    • @raf_cdn
      @raf_cdn 2 года назад +3

      I mean it's because Chris ruined it for all of them

    • @theultimatepielord8697
      @theultimatepielord8697 2 года назад +17

      Yeah Jalen Rose wants to be remembered as part of the fab 5, Chris wants to be remembered as part of that Kings team that should've won the 2002 championship.

  • @dalesabandal9113
    @dalesabandal9113 5 лет назад +528

    Yall should do Reggie Miller vs the entire city of New York/ Spike Lee

    • @donlee.4308
      @donlee.4308 5 лет назад +39

      They had it at ESPN 30 for 30, but SB nation should have their own version of it too.

    • @JoeBro915
      @JoeBro915 5 лет назад +1

      Ewing owned Reggie aside from those shots

    • @siircartiier
      @siircartiier 5 лет назад +8

      No need the 30:30 is great

    • @brendagray9296
      @brendagray9296 5 лет назад +1

      Awwl now i gotta go back and erase mines. That was my thought. Well let me erase it now. 😂😂

    • @dalesabandal9113
      @dalesabandal9113 5 лет назад +4

      @@JoeBro915 ewing wasnt exactly reggie's matchups...

  • @BokuGlack
    @BokuGlack 5 лет назад +226

    Detroit had so many good athletes.

    • @TenThumbsProductions
      @TenThumbsProductions 5 лет назад +16

      Mike the list of the best athletes from Detroit and the best athletes to have played in Detroit are ridiculous.

    • @fredx239
      @fredx239 5 лет назад +7

      Crazy how many good Old School players came from the 313

    • @kp-iv2mp
      @kp-iv2mp 5 лет назад +3

      And rappers! NF and Eminem!

    • @jalen3590
      @jalen3590 5 лет назад

      All they draft is athletic rebounders

    • @BokuGlack
      @BokuGlack 5 лет назад +2

      Laron DaGod I’m talking about the amount the amount of athletes from Detroit

  • @mickeyfrancese4775
    @mickeyfrancese4775 5 лет назад +267

    Jalen needs to make shirts that say "One Dude..."

    • @melvinsprewel8287
      @melvinsprewel8287 5 лет назад +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @freelyme333
      @freelyme333 5 лет назад +15

      The way he's benefited off of throwing Chris under the bus, I'm shocked that he hasn't already.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 4 года назад +21

      Chris threw the whole program and his own squad under the bus

    • @RapOvrDos
      @RapOvrDos 4 года назад

      Josh Lewis exactly

  • @youngzeus87
    @youngzeus87 Год назад +58

    C Webb is like Wilt at Kansas. He burdens that championship loss but they were both the only reason their teams were competitive

    • @pyeuneu
      @pyeuneu 7 месяцев назад +2

      Michigan reached final 4 or 8 after webber left, so not entirely true.

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 4 месяца назад

      ​@@pyeuneuright c Webb was definitely a big part of their success but to make it out like he was jus carryin a bunch of garbage dudes to relevance no that's completely untrue

  • @RaidersFan1001
    @RaidersFan1001 5 лет назад +494

    Chris Webber : Time out!!!!
    Ref: NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT!!!!!

    • @marlowencna
      @marlowencna 5 лет назад +4

      LOL. damn you people.

    • @jonmichael3280
      @jonmichael3280 5 лет назад +10

      Was that a Double X reference?

    • @MyTypeOfVideos
      @MyTypeOfVideos 5 лет назад +29

      Jon B most likely a jalen and jacoby podcast reference

    • @hayyuuomer934
      @hayyuuomer934 5 лет назад

      😂😂

    • @jons5658
      @jons5658 5 лет назад +3

      MahoganyCHET And the Jalen and Jacoby podcast reference is a Double X Posse reference, lol.

  • @maxkirkman4568
    @maxkirkman4568 5 лет назад +117

    The Juwan Howard Chris Webber bullets team was legit. They had the MCI Center rocking.

    • @paulscheidel3258
      @paulscheidel3258 5 лет назад +5

      Max Kirkman they put up tons of banners!!!!!!

    • @jferg8956
      @jferg8956 5 лет назад +2

      So many playoff exits!

    • @drunkroku4054
      @drunkroku4054 5 лет назад +3

      Along with a young Ben Wallace coming off the bench, is how stacked the bigs were.

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 5 лет назад +1

      Imagine if the NBA didn't cancel the Howard to Miami signing?

    • @2714shaun
      @2714shaun 5 лет назад +1

      @@drunkroku4054
      I believe rasheed Wallace started there too

  • @gregoryvschmidt
    @gregoryvschmidt 5 лет назад +304

    Reggie Miller's look basically says he believes Jalen.

    • @UltraX34
      @UltraX34 5 лет назад +24

      bruh fr tho

    • @jmbrooks82
      @jmbrooks82 5 лет назад +30

      Facts, he was pushing that shirt towards C-Webb like whatever dude...

    • @christophercolumbus1705
      @christophercolumbus1705 4 года назад +11

      Douglas Taggart stop acting like you know this guy personally... you see him on tv 😂😂😂

    • @videoorgy
      @videoorgy 3 года назад

      Ehh.

    • @martianmusic1364
      @martianmusic1364 3 года назад +4

      poker face while Webber's on a tangent like 😐 yeah bruh jalens right you're still hurting

  • @iN00bman
    @iN00bman 4 года назад +29

    TY for pointing out this wouldn’t have happened if players were compensated for earning schools millions 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @EDAOM27
    @EDAOM27 5 лет назад +289

    Do the Timberwolves vs. the Playoffs

  • @cantbeatthebay4765
    @cantbeatthebay4765 5 лет назад +352

    The NCAA did C-Webb hella dirty..

    • @Ironman1o1
      @Ironman1o1 5 лет назад +126

      The NCAA does everyone dirty. Keeping the legacy of slavery alive and well in America.

    • @chrisroberts7017
      @chrisroberts7017 5 лет назад +6

      Can't Beat The BAY! Then he did the Warriors hella dirty

    • @forrealforreal8723
      @forrealforreal8723 5 лет назад +4

      Everybody takes money

    • @carsonc3314
      @carsonc3314 5 лет назад +2

      They did Steve Fisher dirtier

    • @EthanBradburyVlogs
      @EthanBradburyVlogs 5 лет назад +2

      @@Ironman1o1 they get free scholarships. Cry more

  • @allank8497
    @allank8497 3 года назад +4

    So glad the beef is now squashed

    • @rogerszmodis
      @rogerszmodis 2 года назад +1

      Squashed beef is just a burger.

  • @KJ3113
    @KJ3113 5 лет назад +46

    When the Fab 5 came in the scene in Fall 91, i was a Sophmore in HS. They were 5 starting Freshmen who went all the way to the Title game.
    The next season, the 5 starting Sophmores again made it to the Title game.
    They were huge. They were legends. The entire College game hated them. All the other teams, players, announcers, broadcasters were against them.
    They changed everything. They started the baggy, long shorts. B4 that, players wore very short, tight shorts. They wore black socks, black sneakers, and shaved their heads.
    Everywhere u went, people were wearing Michigan gear. It was everywhere.
    Im a Uconn fan, cause i live in CT, but they were a must see.
    What a time to b a college hoops fan! Thanks for the great memories of the 91-92, And 92-93 season. Even after Webber left, the 4 of them made it to the elite 8 in 93-94 season.
    And that was it. Rose, and Howard left, and that was all she wrote

    • @eddiefelson1288
      @eddiefelson1288 3 года назад +2

      Thank you for that reminder. They were way bigger than their beef. I was a white kid in Wisconsin wearing the gold shorts and black socks. My memories of the Fab Five will always be positive. Think of all of the national chamions after and even the teams that beat them. None were even close to as important and influential as the FAB FIVE

    • @fakeemmcee
      @fakeemmcee 2 года назад

      I watched the documentary and apparently Bill Walton hated them 😳

    • @KJ3113
      @KJ3113 2 года назад

      @@eddiefelson1288 Well said man!!

  • @zhuoranli4576
    @zhuoranli4576 5 лет назад +1350

    Do Jalen Rose vs 81 points memes

    • @zhuoranli4576
      @zhuoranli4576 5 лет назад +42

      Mike West is this Jalen’s secretive RUclips account?

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 5 лет назад +2

      Zhuoran Li 🤣🤣🤣

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 5 лет назад +6

      Derek Lowe which is why he had to get that 81 in his life

    • @twocents6951
      @twocents6951 5 лет назад +8

      Courney Hallcy Kobe only scored about 19 of the 81 against Rose. He didn’t guard him the whole game.

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 5 лет назад +5

      Two Cents 🤦🏿‍♂️ obviously Jalen didn’t guard him the entire game. What coach would let Jalen Rose guard Kobe the entire game while he’s going for 81? It’s a joke.

  • @musiclover-cn7tb
    @musiclover-cn7tb 5 лет назад +261

    this is sad please forgive each other life is too short and no it won't happen overnight but fix it now.

  • @nickp8186
    @nickp8186 3 года назад +269

    I can tell you Chris Webber’s side of the story right now: he accepted some money because he was a kid who didn’t fully appreciate the ramifications and then he accidentally made a mental mistake at the end of a nationally televised most important game of his career to that point despite being a peak athlete because he was mentally exhausted and like 20 years old at that point. He denied accepting the money because of the legal ramifications probably as the advice of council around him and then admitted it to the lie in order save his ass just before he felt it was going to become evident he lied. People and media have constantly beat up on him his whole adult life because it’s easy to do and they don’t fully appreciate the hard work it takes to become that level of an athlete. And he is therefore suspicious of media and people. He by nature is also probably a little introverted even if he forces himself to act differently in public. He doesn’t hate Rose but feels betrayed by him because of all the people who have told him to apologize and have criticized him, Rose is the most similar to him given their history. He expected Rose to be more empathetic and faces a dissonance in which he must decide if Rose truly does not understand where he is coming from or if Rose has sold him out. Chris has a hard time understanding the actions of Rose given Rose’s extroverted tendencies. Rose did not truly “sell out” Webber but was repeating things that were already said but given his job the book and personality traits it’s easy to see why Chris took it that way. Obviously Chris doesn’t feel like he should apologize because he feels misunderstood and doesn’t want to speak up because it’s not fair to him to be in a position where that’s the only way people will have more empathy for him despite it not being their business.
    This is not rocket science you guys. Also fantastic mini-doc btw!

    • @christianlatham4491
      @christianlatham4491 Год назад +28

      This chris’ burner account?

    • @alexs.9903
      @alexs.9903 Год назад +10

      This is me rewatching, Chris owes an apology to Ed Martin and Coach Fisher. That's really it. That's the point Jalen made throughout though he could have been a bit understanding, but he has to talk about because hes on TV and what hes paid to do.

    • @speakinfaxonly21
      @speakinfaxonly21 Год назад +6

      SOURCE: TRUST ME BRO I WAS THERE

    • @PrimeEli
      @PrimeEli Год назад +1

      @@speakinfaxonly21”IM HIM” 😂😂

    • @BlaqRainFresh
      @BlaqRainFresh 11 месяцев назад +2

      You don’t know him so you can’t say his side. It doesn’t have to be rocket science, you just don’t know what you’re talking about

  • @ericwall3526
    @ericwall3526 4 года назад +8

    Was a sr in high school when Chris was a junior, was a wrestler who actually loved the game of basketball. Had some friends who loved it too. We had to see chris play. We went to a home game of his and saw him throw dunks like the rim was set at 8 ft. Was an awsome experience to see this high school athlete that we knew as going to change the game. And yes he and the fab 5 changed the game. Chris and Jalen and those guys meant so much to Michigan nation then and still do. For cripes sake put the damn banners up Michigan. Your supposed to teach. Try teaching forgiveness for Pete's sake.

  • @masterxploder5160
    @masterxploder5160 5 лет назад +64

    Those two need to get on one of those one-on-one interviews that Shaq and Kobe were on

    • @mikejunior3373
      @mikejunior3373 5 лет назад +1

      That would be a definite must watch!!

    • @tgms177
      @tgms177 5 лет назад

      Jalen would definitely do it

    • @tgms177
      @tgms177 5 лет назад

      Jalen would definitely do it

  • @freshcheddar
    @freshcheddar 5 лет назад +78

    C Webb is underrated as hell ever since the Timeout, idc what nobody said he was the best player out of the Fab Five by far everyone else at the top were journeymen.

    • @nathanielthomas2502
      @nathanielthomas2502 4 года назад +5

      Agreed but still doesn't make Chris right on this issue

    • @playoffp7452
      @playoffp7452 4 года назад +3

      Marcus Mack also the fakest.How u lie on Ed Martin and he gave u 600,000 at 18

    • @tacotom3492
      @tacotom3492 2 года назад +1

      Chris obviously was the best but Jalen was a very good player along with JHo.. Jimmy and Ray were good role players. Ray is a Dallas guy (As am I).and definitely made more $$ than anyone woulda thought so it seems everyone did ok

  • @senakashiwazaki7328
    @senakashiwazaki7328 5 лет назад +4

    Absolutely love all your stuff. Surprised you haven’t done a deep rewind on the Webber timeout. I’d love to see that.

  • @shaksham.22
    @shaksham.22 3 года назад +26

    Well i m here after watching both of them talk emotionally about chris webber getting elected into hall of fame.

    • @davidgaskins2589
      @davidgaskins2589 3 года назад

      Bro you seem feminine

    • @shaksham.22
      @shaksham.22 3 года назад +6

      @@davidgaskins2589 well thanks for making it about me lol, nobody cares

  • @TheBusDriverExperience
    @TheBusDriverExperience 5 лет назад +56

    "Because I've been trolled like no other human in sports history"
    Unreal Chris

  • @andrewbristow2817
    @andrewbristow2817 5 лет назад +123

    I never felt more bad........for REGGIE MILLER during that Dan Patrick interview.

    • @randomzero3
      @randomzero3 5 лет назад +16

      I think Reggie started it, but he definitely asked questions himself and kept it going. C-Webb actually says to Reggie after one bit, "You're supposed to be on my side".

  • @joshp5819
    @joshp5819 4 месяца назад

    One of the best channels on RUclips been going back to watch the older stuff and it still hits

  • @humblelion4959
    @humblelion4959 5 лет назад +4

    This is so well done, very informative and funny. I am just a fan.

  • @fasteddie9970
    @fasteddie9970 5 лет назад +654

    Do Chris Webber VS Timeouts

  • @MrShanester117
    @MrShanester117 5 лет назад +229

    It seems like Webber went “big time” as soon as he went first overall and he never really was as close to those guys as they thought. Webber seems to be all about Webber

    • @lildubuoy
      @lildubuoy 5 лет назад +98

      And rose seems to be all about exploiting what webber is all about. So what does that make him????

    • @SubjectZ3RO
      @SubjectZ3RO 5 лет назад +8

      That’s the impression I got as well. Reminds a bit of the Ray Allen & Boston situation

    • @georgiofamous6334
      @georgiofamous6334 5 лет назад +46

      @@SubjectZ3RO Boston played Ray stop it

    • @SubjectZ3RO
      @SubjectZ3RO 5 лет назад +23

      Georgio Famous I know that... I was referring to the fact that it seems like Ray Allen and his teammates in Boston weren’t as close they thought they were. Not with the organization I should’ve made that clearer though

    • @jons5658
      @jons5658 5 лет назад +27

      J Day He did...until Chris started lying on Ed Martin, someone who did a lot for both of them. The other 4 are all cool. Juwan is the only one still cool with Chris. What does that tell you?

  • @shopwrecker1785
    @shopwrecker1785 4 года назад +83

    Rose does exploit this beef in the media waaay too much....you got an espn gig behind it, now leave it alone🙄

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 3 года назад +10

      Lol Jalen Rose was working media before he even retired. You must be young don’t think you know what happened from a RUclips video. Look up the charges filed

    • @LostBoysBasketball
      @LostBoysBasketball 3 года назад

      @@gobot581 fax

  • @europeanamerican3429
    @europeanamerican3429 5 лет назад +18

    Very very very GOOD reporting...Outstanding clip with factual info that I was not aware of.
    Great job 👏🏾

  • @95mjl
    @95mjl 5 лет назад +160

    While these two guys were beefing and having “good careers”, Juwan Howard out here was minding his own business winning a ring 😂

    • @ericwalker3792
      @ericwalker3792 3 года назад +6

      You mean rings but great point

    • @fatbean2000
      @fatbean2000 2 года назад +33

      c web should of had a championship if not for the worst officiated game in the league history.

    • @ncaa12cfb92
      @ncaa12cfb92 2 года назад +4

      As a bum on the bench

    • @thegolden807
      @thegolden807 2 года назад +1

      Yo chill he was just on the team 😂

    • @tirethor972mjolnir3
      @tirethor972mjolnir3 Год назад +1

      He watched the 5 starters win the championship actually

  • @garysmith4218
    @garysmith4218 5 лет назад +64

    13:30 Reggie Miller's poker face! 😂🤣😂 he wanted no part of that interview.

    • @DaveRSuperstar
      @DaveRSuperstar 4 года назад +7

      That's because Jalen was his boy, and he probably knows who Webber really is. Webber always struck me as kind of soft and dishonest. But I'm a Michigan fan, so I'm going to embrace the guy who still loves Michigan and wants them to be successful.

    • @youtubevanced2055
      @youtubevanced2055 4 года назад

      @@DaveRSuperstar records show exactly that, well, the dishonest part at least.

  • @christopheroliver4757
    @christopheroliver4757 4 года назад +16

    Ray Jackson was incredibly underrated.

  • @darrenjames3065
    @darrenjames3065 4 года назад +44

    From having watched this team as a UNC fan and realizing how they changed college basketball, all the way to watching the Fab Five move onto the NBA, I’d always wanted to see the Fab Five go back to Michigan and get the accolades they deserved. I’d like for this to be reconciled. Chris Webber being an honorary football captain and now Juwan Howard being the Michigan basketball coach tells me that there’s a chance of it coming. But I think that it’s still not too close to happening. It’s gonna come down to Chris and Jalen reconciling first.

    • @nandouquintana5709
      @nandouquintana5709 Год назад

      In which sense did they change basketball?

    • @Apple2-ux8uo
      @Apple2-ux8uo 8 месяцев назад

      It was discovered for the first time if a booster secretly paid good players hundreds of thousands, they were easier to recruit.
      This innovative recruiting had never been tried in college sports before.

    • @n8tethegr8t20
      @n8tethegr8t20 8 месяцев назад

      @@nandouquintana5709 literally freshman starting on a basketball team, first college team to start all freshman which is what see all the time nowadays, also wearing black socks, baggy shorts

  • @tjantilag
    @tjantilag 5 лет назад +71

    Breaks my heart. An iconic team and Chris is one of my favourite players of all time. Hopefully one day they can get back to being the group they were.

    • @nolanneals2568
      @nolanneals2568 2 года назад

      ngl. the only way i know jalen rose was that he was on my league legends 2k mobile team.

  • @josephseed8791
    @josephseed8791 5 лет назад +258

    CWebb number 4
    Jalen is number 5
    5+4=9
    You know what else equals to 9?
    8+1

  • @SFO14
    @SFO14 5 лет назад +79

    Vince Carter vs. the city of Toronto (or entire population of Canada)

    • @NemoHoes
      @NemoHoes 5 лет назад +7

      Lmao canada do not dislike him

    • @SFO14
      @SFO14 5 лет назад +13

      @@NemoHoes Not anymore :-)

    • @NemoHoes
      @NemoHoes 5 лет назад +1

      @@SFO14 they never did

    • @SFO14
      @SFO14 5 лет назад +27

      @@NemoHoes You must be young...almost every Raptors fan hated him after he left Toronto for New Jersey

    • @NemoHoes
      @NemoHoes 5 лет назад

      @@SFO14 nope mid 30s I never heard him get any hate

  • @RoryL83
    @RoryL83 5 лет назад +37

    Jalen's ridden this story to the top of espn, wonder if he can keep it alive to keep himself relevant.

  • @durian830317
    @durian830317 5 лет назад +68

    I click this video and finish it so fast, the Fab Five brotherhood hasn't became a whole yet.
    MY FAULT

    • @kz1000ps
      @kz1000ps 5 лет назад +2

      Dang, same damn result here!

  • @jerrysimonjr34
    @jerrysimonjr34 5 лет назад +15

    They need to sit down with no cameras, with a mediator and squash this beef. It's gone on long enough

  • @yeah1099
    @yeah1099 3 года назад +7

    Who’s here after they finally talked again??

  • @jonathanmccallum4330
    @jonathanmccallum4330 7 месяцев назад +3

    I’m glad NIL is here just because of stuff like this

  • @KB-qk1ic
    @KB-qk1ic 5 лет назад +4

    Two of my favorite players ever, my introduction to college basketball was the Fab 5 and it sucks seeing them like this.

  • @objohnkenobi
    @objohnkenobi 5 лет назад +87

    "When Webber went to Michigan, Rose followed him..." because that's what he was paid to do.

    • @jamaalhorton2343
      @jamaalhorton2343 4 года назад +9

      objohnkenobi Jalen been coat tailing Webber! They bring up Country Day Suburbs but Jalen and Chris lived next door to each other in Detroit along with Vashon Leonard

    • @dezznutz3743
      @dezznutz3743 4 года назад +2

      WRONG

    • @HoneyBee4163
      @HoneyBee4163 3 года назад +12

      He followed because they were friends...and both were angry at Duke. At that time Duke was only recruiting black kids from middle class families. Why? Less drama and more disciplined....is the stereotype. Duke's image was very important. Jalen made Chris a better player. Webber owes Coach Fisher.

    • @hunterburk
      @hunterburk 3 года назад

      Webber was signed sealed delivered to go to Michigan State then abruptly changes in mind. You can thank Martin giving the Fab5 plenty of illegal $$$$$$$.

    • @alexjones3511
      @alexjones3511 2 года назад

      @@hunterburk He only gave illegal money to Webber. Rose was acquitted. And the other three members didn't have any major involvment with Martin like Webber and Rose did. Jimmy King and Ray Jackson were from TEXAS, and Juwan was from ILLINOIS.

  • @lordsofoctoberofficial
    @lordsofoctoberofficial 5 лет назад +5

    Great video. You sound almost exactly like Bill Simmons, btw.

  • @ldbboosha
    @ldbboosha 4 года назад +56

    I'm kinda on Webber's side. A college mistake is ridiculous to keep bringing up, especially when they both have successful careers.

    • @rogregg29445
      @rogregg29445 4 года назад +8

      Downtown Clay Davis yeah I’ve always hated Jalen rose I think he’s such a loud mouth and the fact that he can’t let it go is just sad

    • @ryublueblanka
      @ryublueblanka 4 года назад +13

      It's not about a college mistake...it's about his character through his entire life. Webber is a liar and a scumbag

    • @devondivine1083
      @devondivine1083 4 года назад +6

      Thats cause you a weenie, you don't 💩 on somebody that took care of you, cause you got caught up and LIED in court.

    • @ryublueblanka
      @ryublueblanka 3 года назад

      @Duck my sick 876 Webber didn't just lie once. You don't know Webber. Learn about the guy.

    • @ryublueblanka
      @ryublueblanka 3 года назад

      @Duck my sick 876 I'm not knocking him for being a kid what are you talking about??!!

  • @recaptoons
    @recaptoons 5 лет назад +337

    *NCAA player gets payed 1$* ok boys u know the drill

    • @ifeellikeyeezus8525
      @ifeellikeyeezus8525 5 лет назад

      If they don’t like it they can get a real job.

    • @ifeellikeyeezus8525
      @ifeellikeyeezus8525 5 лет назад +1

      Jordan the GOAT had no problem doing it

    • @orbitalgoat6712
      @orbitalgoat6712 5 лет назад +14

      @@ifeellikeyeezus8525 shut yo ass up

    • @wm9281
      @wm9281 5 лет назад +2

      There is other options. They can go to europe and get paid right away and youthful developmental professional leagues are popping up now. The problem is corruption and turning a blind eye to the secret hush society of this organization. .

    • @DPRX99
      @DPRX99 5 лет назад

      *paid

  • @ChrisJProductionz
    @ChrisJProductionz 5 лет назад +111

    Allen Iverson Vs. David Stern next please

  • @Ducksaucetoni
    @Ducksaucetoni 4 года назад

    I usually hate these with all the commentary, but this was well done!

  • @milinsharrow6937
    @milinsharrow6937 5 лет назад +62

    Who's here after jalen said the hiring of juwan will bring them back together

  • @3rdninches
    @3rdninches 5 лет назад +18

    Mateen Cleaves (sp) was on the cover of Final Four 2001. The first college basketball game I owned as a kid.

  • @kxrv6629
    @kxrv6629 5 лет назад +9

    Tough when your two biggest moments are almosts! The timeout and the Robert Horry shot (although it wasn’t C-Web that was directly involved in this King’s heartbreaker). I was a huge Sacramento fan during the C-Web era but these shenanigans were always murky. Thanks for bringing some clarity to this beef almost.

  • @cjmoss51
    @cjmoss51 4 месяца назад +2

    Today they were all at a Michigan Basketball game. The Beef is officially squashed.

  • @Zaymane808
    @Zaymane808 3 года назад +12

    Its crazy cuz Chris Webber played on uncle drew and was the character who told drew to stop hiding from the truth.

  • @aarriaga04
    @aarriaga04 5 лет назад +18

    Damn 🤦🏽‍♂️ is it hard for a man to apologize?

  • @jaykob213
    @jaykob213 5 лет назад +23

    God damn this was well put together. Did not feel like a 16 minute video at all. Good job!

  • @patricksale7376
    @patricksale7376 4 года назад

    Never knew this was going on.. great video

  • @jonathannieman3952
    @jonathannieman3952 5 лет назад

    Great video dude! Look forward to more

  • @libertines24
    @libertines24 5 лет назад +118

    lmao miller and rose were tight so seeing Reggie just being like :| made me laugh

    • @RastasNevaDie
      @RastasNevaDie 5 лет назад +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @bigbabydogdawg4496
      @bigbabydogdawg4496 5 лет назад +5

      Exactly..

    • @Coolquip43
      @Coolquip43 5 лет назад

      Reggie and Rose ain't exactly close either. Rose called out Reggie for not paying his fine for coming off the bench.

  • @GoldenWind30
    @GoldenWind30 5 лет назад +10

    Dam C-Webb had it tough. The 2 NCAA Championship losses, the trial, the 01 WCF, injuries & getting banned from Michigan temporarily. Still glad he's still doing his thing.

    • @jlgmail1580
      @jlgmail1580 5 лет назад +4

      but he dated Tyra Banks, Made more money than all Fab Five combined and recently did a huge movie, with Kyrie Irving so I think he is winning.

    • @deebee8825
      @deebee8825 5 лет назад

      @@jlgmail1580 lol yep. Sure is

  • @travdaddy-wh4wp
    @travdaddy-wh4wp 4 года назад

    Dude you showed so much great information with the articles but you overlooked it and went through all it way to fast.. I had to pause the movie and read the screen for myself... But I loved it.. Go blue

  • @contactdigestpodcast1530
    @contactdigestpodcast1530 5 лет назад +5

    This should be on tv. That was pretty da-- good. Narration made it.

  • @kaqueburlington4278
    @kaqueburlington4278 5 лет назад +254

    Can you do Andy Reid vs The game clock (when under 2 minutes left)

    • @ebsmith29
      @ebsmith29 5 лет назад +3

      Or they can do one about Dan Quinn vs Clock Management.

    • @anthonyali7309
      @anthonyali7309 5 лет назад

      Pimps & hoes no street corners,
      Basketball courts & football fields.

    • @litslayer
      @litslayer 5 лет назад

      That's Too Far!!! LOL

    • @sadieirvin4350
      @sadieirvin4350 5 лет назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😁

    • @uglyman6984
      @uglyman6984 5 лет назад

      lmfao

  • @dearkazuscorner2549
    @dearkazuscorner2549 5 лет назад +32

    Aaaah, so that's why Chris Webber is not a HoF member yet....

    • @RJ-pk4jc
      @RJ-pk4jc 5 лет назад

      makes sense now

  • @geno1399
    @geno1399 2 года назад +16

    Jalen was talking about Chris like he owned him a direct apology

  • @jarretthoogerhyde1633
    @jarretthoogerhyde1633 4 года назад +7

    I think Chris not being in the 30 for 30 is what makes it so great!

  • @JTDutch
    @JTDutch 5 лет назад +8

    I think this is my favorite BH episode. Really nice job, guys.

    • @3KRacing
      @3KRacing 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah this is some quality work here. Loved it.

  • @Lucas-AR
    @Lucas-AR 5 лет назад +115

    Reggie miller jalen former teammate had the straightest of faces on

    • @donegary4581
      @donegary4581 5 лет назад +1

      Lol🤣😂he did

    • @atm7896
      @atm7896 5 лет назад +4

      I noticed that too..lol... I thought to myself they hve to be promoting Uncle Drew...

    • @jesseavila1355
      @jesseavila1355 5 лет назад +1

      why you think?

    • @jayythrash3646
      @jayythrash3646 5 лет назад +3

      Jesse Avila cause he know Jaylen a damn hater

    • @jesseavila1355
      @jesseavila1355 5 лет назад +2

      @@jayythrash3646 I thought he trying to make peace but c webber ain't I guess I was wrong

  • @herbwright1441
    @herbwright1441 3 года назад +13

    Just look at Reggie Miller's face while C. Webb is giving his side. Reggie's face says it all.

  • @KingNez89
    @KingNez89 4 года назад

    Dope video man and very informative

  • @mickeyj6055
    @mickeyj6055 5 лет назад +7

    I appreciate this video. Not many people know that two kids from Detroit have history that is unexplained. I feel its best that Chris does his own docu like with Showtime or HBO or even the streaming platforms. But I feel Chris should tell his side of the story his way

  • @rizzyretro
    @rizzyretro 5 лет назад +240

    Andre Drummond vs Free Throws please

    • @000JonnyBoothworthy
      @000JonnyBoothworthy 5 лет назад +7

      Shaq vs Free Throws first...

    • @fredx239
      @fredx239 5 лет назад +3

      Ben Wallace second

    • @000JonnyBoothworthy
      @000JonnyBoothworthy 5 лет назад

      @@fredx239 okay that works😂

    • @Thanobleguy
      @Thanobleguy 5 лет назад +18

      Bucket God well considering he can actually shoot them now it would make no sense

    • @rizzyretro
      @rizzyretro 5 лет назад

      @@Thanobleguy sorry Marquise

  • @daryljeddenielisaacadao145
    @daryljeddenielisaacadao145 3 года назад +2

    Who's here after jalen congratulates Cwebb on an espn interview.

  • @Chilltownify
    @Chilltownify 3 года назад

    Great piece...kudos