That rig has been beat, but not to death as long as Warren comes to the rescue. I hope these people appreciate the work you do on site, in all different weather, and know what you're doing. You can't find as many good mechanics as there used to be, and the amount of work you do, and the hour's you put in to get people going again you just don't see that to much. Thanks for putting out so many video's after the break you took, because you have helped me with thing's i do, and i appreciate your time. G-d bless.
Ha number 1, hey Warren. Some fine field fix there. Get it back to the shop and scab it together. Then they can arrange for you to fix it right after the season is over. Thanks much for the video my friend.
Thank you for the video Warren, 👍 if I broke that I would of had my ass chewed and wouldn't hear the last of this from everyone while someone else that's keeps braking wouldn't.
That is a strange design especially using such light gauge metal. I think that requires a substantial rebuild as you say. Great work getting it mobile again.
@nightstorm9128 That's overkill. What was there is a long way from 1/4-inch tubing. Half-inch tubing would be a ridiculous amount of added weight. I had to weld tubing of similar looking thickness years ago on a Kershaw Tie Injector for the railroad. I was pretty surprised when i saw how thick the tubing was, and it looked to be the same thickness as this. I assumed it would be thicker as well, but i welded it up, and it was fine the rest of the season. 1800 to over 2000 railroad ties a shift so that arm moved in and out twice per tie ramming it in the ballast under the rails
@@henrydillard6217 Same as everything else. All value engineered to crap. A fridge won't even last 5-10 years and the fridge my mother had when she was a kid was still working when my grandparents passed. 60 years later. Still in my uncles barn keeping drinks cold.
A lot of it isn't just the engineers... it's the idiots that think the older equipment needs to be ran like the newer equipment which is designed to be ran faster and in rough terrain. This rake is beat and honestly, should be replaced with a merger. This style of rake is junk and has been such even straight from the factory.
100% that steel is so stressed and fatigued you're correct on saying most of the main tube needs to be replaced. The engineers design it and then it's up to the "Field Mechanic" to make it work!
It's harvest time. Time for some zip-ties and JB Weld, and maybe a few ratchet straps. Then finish this year's harvest and park it until you need it next year. Prepare to be surprised next year when you find it still busted! In the meantime, out of sight, out of mind. Remember Farmer Logic: Expenses delayed are money made. 😜😜😜😜😜
The rake wasn't built sturdy enough for the people that are using it. Maybe we will get to see You re-engineer it some day. Thanks again Warren and Best Wishes to You and Your Family....
I believe you are right in your thinking about cutting that main arm completely out and starting over with heavier walled tube and/or a truss type piece under to help that issue out. Good luck with it, be interested in how you end up repairing it, thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
Crazy design. Is this common for these types of emplements. I guess stress found the weakest spot again. Your dogs must be the luckiest dogs around getting to go with you and explore like dogs need to do. Good for you too Warren thanks for the videos.
I grew up knowing is as Air Arc. My dad called it that too. He was a welder. I happened to google the company recently to get replacement parts for the stinger my dad handed down to me and it’s called Arc Air! It’s reversed. 😂 I couldn’t believe it.
Well Arc Air is a brand name. I did it in the shop as well, although i was a mechanic, and not a full-time welder. All our welders called it Air Arcing too. Air Arc are not the only manufacturers of air carbon arc gouging equipment.
I have a Vermeer 2800 it’s bounced over allot hay ground and that has never happened to it. Heavier frame they need to trade that rake in and get a vermeer rake 👍🏻
Seems like a bunch of stress on that area, add rough fields and high speeds, it’s amazing it held together. Finding a company that could roll some heavy square tubing might be hard to find. Could you shove some heavy tubing inside the original tubing and plug welding the heck out of it?? I swear you could give some people a steel ball bearing, come back in 5 minutes and they would have the stuffing ripped out of it. Thanks for the videos, Warren.
That's a pretty weak part of the design. More gusseting like you're talking about and possibly some on the sides to take some of the pressure off the junction would definitely help. We're still digging out from hurricane Helene. Our internet just came back on. Thanks Warren!
I know you seen my cousins channell. IC WELD. I am not saying you are not a good welder. Just referring that Isaac is a great resource and is always willing to help. I always ask when for outside input. Isaac and my Cousin Jimmy who is a pipeline welder saved us allot of time and money. We call them the Goal keepers of metal. We are Dairyman. we will screw shit up.
The large square tubular frame structure reminds me of a Border TV Show, where a semi was crossing the border from Mexico to the US, with a green large square frame structure with wheels. They ran the truck through X-Ray, and saw anomalies inside. They cut the ends off the square tubes, and found metal boxes inside. Once they emptied the structure out, they cut a metal box open. Each box contained compressed marijuana.
What are those ranchers and farmers going to do if something serious should happen to you, or even, you should decide that the rocking chair is a better option? Around here in the east, hardly anyone can get equipment repaired correctly. Heck, a lot of small farmers are buying up good, old 1970 s tractors for a backup in case of emergencies because they have get their crops in.
Do you go out looking for the most fun jobs to do? That hitch frame would have suffered lots of stress over the years. Thanks for the vidios Warren. cheers.
I’d prolly just scrap that arch piece. Make a kind of “Z” shape hitch but make the vertical piece 90 degrees & square to the horizontal portions (rake & drawbar). Then put in a couple 45 degree pieces to make two triangles out of the “Z”. Clear as mud? Lol
Could you fit a smaller box section inside the cracked one? You might bolt this in + a few wields and then fit and wield the outer tube as outlined. That tube might suffer severe bending moments.
Hey sir just suggestion if take a plate slide inside bot sides drill holes so you can weld like plug holes but with the plate in back then your crack weld that up with both front halfs and rear halfs wyo tech calls it butt weld with backing, way looks there lot of pressure on that seem
Good job on the repair again. That thing is a crap design! Like it's designed to fail. Needs some heavier steel and waaay better bracing. And an operator who's keeps an eye on whats happening wouldn't hurt either.
Just asking, but is there some way to span part of that arc with a gusset to strengthen it? Or would it get in the way of its operation. Love your vidios Warren.
That looks to be a very poorly designed bit of equipment. Must be huge stress on that section beam, no wonder it broke, couple that with a slow operator that may be a bit rough
Good job . Looked difficult to get it lined up and leveled out. Just wondering why you didn't put a lenth of square tube inside of it ? Slip both ends on weild it and plate it on the outside.
I had a gehl 12ft swing tongue sickle haybine if i hit ruts head on tongue would flex but never snapped there was large/thick factory plate welded back at the pivot haybine is designed if one wheel gets hung up in a rut the hydraulic ram "lets go" on the pressure
I know farmers have to work around the clock to meet their deadlines for crop planting and harvesting, but this fella needs to slow down just a bit. Equipment break downs aren't going to help him any.
That rake is of such poor design and construction needed to be much heavier gauge box section looked good in dealers yard but not rugged enough thanks for video Warren you definitely get some interesting jobs
That whole rig is flaky. Thin wall tubing obviously can't handle the stress and the length of the arm is way too much to take the beating. Farming equipment has to be rugged. This thing ain't.. Hate to be captain obvious but beefing it up in that place will expose another weak spot somewhere else for sure.
**THE DUDE MUST BE AN IDIOT** if he hires you. I don't get it, a Man no matter his wisdom, can still pay you the same amount the man YOU figure is Special. I don't know, maybe I fit in that same guys circle because I'd hire you!
That whole piece needs to be replaced. The design is crap ,made worse by the thin metal of the material. No matter how you weld it, it will continually break.And the length of the arc does not lend itself to a proper brace.
How come you can't quit running your mouth on my channel, I don't come in to your house and tell you how to talk, you are on my house punk so if you don't like it then get the fuck out
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Gladly… This channel is nothing but conspiracy theories and constant negativity these days anyways. You clearly have deeper issues than your RUclips comments Lmao!! Bye
Warren, I never see anybody helping you. Is that your preference? If I was a farmer under pressure i would be doing everything possible to get my equipment back to work asap.
Yo Warren where can. Contact you I got some 7018 welding rod I'll send you cause I enjoy watching you work I'd send it your way. Don't use stick much id donate it to you
Great another video. Up at 4am, I'll watch this tomorrow evening. Can't watch the news anymore, neighbors can hear me yelling at the damn television
We get better commentary about the state of the world from Warren than from the news media.
That rig has been beat, but not to death as long as Warren comes to the rescue. I hope these people appreciate the work you do on site, in all different weather, and know what you're doing. You can't find as many good mechanics as there used to be, and the amount of work you do, and the hour's you put in to get people going again you just don't see that to much. Thanks for putting out so many video's after the break you took, because you have helped me with thing's i do, and i appreciate your time.
G-d bless.
Ha number 1, hey Warren. Some fine field fix there. Get it back to the shop and scab it together. Then they can arrange for you to fix it right after the season is over. Thanks much for the video my friend.
Notorious for not being to smart. 😂😂😂. Honestly warren, you come out with some of the best quotes. Always make me laugh.😊
More reasons to why Warren is simply the best.
Thank you for the video Warren, 👍 if I broke that I would of had my ass chewed and wouldn't hear the last of this from everyone while someone else that's keeps braking wouldn't.
That is a strange design especially using such light gauge metal. I think that requires a substantial rebuild as you say. Great work getting it mobile again.
Looks good, lots of welding on that one. Thanks for the video
That box steel is not even quarter inch,,,,Should be half inch from factory,,These company's really are making crap today,,
I agree also they drive like they stole it across bumpy ground no respect for the kit. It’s the same here where i work. But yes metal is way too thin.
Farm equipment is more expensive than ever and also very poor quality now.
@nightstorm9128 That's overkill. What was there is a long way from 1/4-inch tubing. Half-inch tubing would be a ridiculous amount of added weight. I had to weld tubing of similar looking thickness years ago on a Kershaw Tie Injector for the railroad. I was pretty surprised when i saw how thick the tubing was, and it looked to be the same thickness as this. I assumed it would be thicker as well, but i welded it up, and it was fine the rest of the season. 1800 to over 2000 railroad ties a shift so that arm moved in and out twice per tie ramming it in the ballast under the rails
@@henrydillard6217 Same as everything else. All value engineered to crap. A fridge won't even last 5-10 years and the fridge my mother had when she was a kid was still working when my grandparents passed. 60 years later. Still in my uncles barn keeping drinks cold.
I see you have your turd polishing compound in full use today
Looks like a pretty week spot on that rake
Engineers don't understand how equipment is used. As long as it looks pretty on their computer in their air-conditioned office. Great video.
A lot of it isn't just the engineers... it's the idiots that think the older equipment needs to be ran like the newer equipment which is designed to be ran faster and in rough terrain. This rake is beat and honestly, should be replaced with a merger. This style of rake is junk and has been such even straight from the factory.
100% that steel is so stressed and fatigued you're correct on saying most of the main tube needs to be replaced. The engineers design it and then it's up to the "Field Mechanic" to make it work!
It's harvest time. Time for some zip-ties and JB Weld, and maybe a few ratchet straps. Then finish this year's harvest and park it until you need it next year. Prepare to be surprised next year when you find it still busted! In the meantime, out of sight, out of mind. Remember Farmer Logic: Expenses delayed are money made. 😜😜😜😜😜
Maybe Putting a Square Tube on the Inside Might Help...
Thank you for the video
Great video Warren, thx for sharing ,safe travels
The rake wasn't built sturdy enough for the people that are using it. Maybe we will get to see You re-engineer it some day. Thanks again Warren and Best Wishes to You and Your Family....
@@richardlincoln8438 Hello, Mr George?
Strong work. Send it to a local welding shop and let them fix it,.you did your part already 👍👍👍
I believe you are right in your thinking about cutting that main arm completely out and starting over with heavier walled tube and/or a truss type piece under to help that issue out. Good luck with it, be interested in how you end up repairing it, thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
Nice work Warren 👍
Repair videos my favorite
Warren,wow,that’s different,never seen a rake as this before,I’m certain Warren you will make the best,see ya on the next one.
Hello Sir! Another Day above ground! Well done! Hope you have many more!
Pumping the videos out like a factory. Awesome
Another awesome vid!
Flimsy construction to start.
and bad design.
@@kevinhornbuckle Recycled metal too.
Crazy design. Is this common for these types of emplements. I guess stress found the weakest spot again. Your dogs must be the luckiest dogs around getting to go with you and explore like dogs need to do. Good for you too Warren thanks for the videos.
Tubing looks like paper . Polishing a turd, still a turd. Thanks Warren
I grew up knowing is as Air Arc. My dad called it that too. He was a welder. I happened to google the company recently to get replacement parts for the stinger my dad handed down to me and it’s called Arc Air! It’s reversed. 😂 I couldn’t believe it.
Well Arc Air is a brand name. I did it in the shop as well, although i was a mechanic, and not a full-time welder. All our welders called it Air Arcing too. Air Arc are not the only manufacturers of air carbon arc gouging equipment.
We call them air gougers in Australia.
Great video Warren looks like you have your work cut out for you reweld reinforcing the neck of that rake. Thanks for sharing stay safe Warren.
Evening Warren. Kindest regards,Bill 🇨🇦🇨🇦
I have a Vermeer 2800 it’s bounced over allot hay ground and that has never happened to it. Heavier frame they need to trade that rake in and get a vermeer rake 👍🏻
Thanks for the share Warren!
Under built for sure warren maybe another piece of heavy tubing inside would hold the two together better
Seems like a bunch of stress on that area, add rough fields and high speeds, it’s amazing it held together. Finding a company that could roll some heavy square tubing might be hard to find. Could you shove some heavy tubing inside the original tubing and plug welding the heck out of it?? I swear you could give some people a steel ball bearing, come back in 5 minutes and they would have the stuffing ripped out of it. Thanks for the videos, Warren.
That's a pretty weak part of the design. More gusseting like you're talking about and possibly some on the sides to take some of the pressure off the junction would definitely help. We're still digging out from hurricane Helene. Our internet just came back on. Thanks Warren!
It a pivot track in road gear. Warren thanks for sharing.
Piece of equipment that has exceeded its life span.. That steel is tired and will keep breaking as many times as you patch it.
I know you seen my cousins channell. IC WELD. I am not saying you are not a good welder. Just referring that Isaac is a great resource and is always willing to help. I always ask when for outside input. Isaac and my Cousin Jimmy who is a pipeline welder saved us allot of time and money. We call them the Goal keepers of metal. We are Dairyman. we will screw shit up.
The large square tubular frame structure reminds me of a Border TV Show, where a semi was crossing the border from Mexico to the US, with a green large square frame structure with wheels. They ran the truck through X-Ray, and saw anomalies inside. They cut the ends off the square tubes, and found metal boxes inside. Once they emptied the structure out, they cut a metal box open. Each box contained compressed marijuana.
"A bit scary"!. You can say that again, I was scared for ya mate.
I bet it's the side loading (jerking) that's starting the tear.
Weldfest! Got er done!!!
Looking good there Warren! Hopefully you enjoyed the krispy kreme donuts I left at your shop about a month ago in the green pickup
Always , double eye protection is the go , recommended Health and Work place Safety , stay safe , cheers
All the professional welders here, let us know everything that Warren's doing wrong.
This guy notorious for not being too sharp …. Well put lol
Thanks Warren!
A length of box iron inside might help good good vid
What are those ranchers and farmers going to do if something serious should happen to you, or even, you should decide that the rocking chair is a better option? Around here in the east, hardly anyone can get equipment repaired correctly. Heck, a lot of small farmers are buying up good, old 1970 s tractors for a backup in case of emergencies because they have get their crops in.
Do you go out looking for the most fun jobs to do?
That hitch frame would have suffered lots of stress over the years.
Thanks for the vidios Warren. cheers.
I’d prolly just scrap that arch piece. Make a kind of “Z” shape hitch but make the vertical piece 90 degrees & square to the horizontal portions (rake & drawbar). Then put in a couple 45 degree pieces to make two triangles out of the “Z”. Clear as mud? Lol
Course I don’t know how it folds up. May not fold up right….
Could you fit a smaller box section inside the cracked one? You might bolt this in + a few wields and then fit and wield the outer tube as outlined.
That tube might suffer severe bending moments.
Weak construction, support underneath reduces metal stress. Would attach two legs underneath to reduce twisting. 💪
Man this was a good video I like welding content!
It doesn't look like the greatest design. All that weight and stress on that one joint?
There should be a truss structure on bottom, inside of that bend.
Hey sir just suggestion if take a plate slide inside bot sides drill holes so you can weld like plug holes but with the plate in back then your crack weld that up with both front halfs and rear halfs wyo tech calls it butt weld with backing, way looks there lot of pressure on that seem
Anybody else wait for it to finish breaking in half as it winched up? Yikes some serious pucker factor.
I bet a pivot rut contributed to that.
He hit a power pole the day before
Good job on the repair again. That thing is a crap design! Like it's designed to fail. Needs some heavier steel and waaay better bracing. And an operator who's keeps an eye on whats happening wouldn't hurt either.
Looks like it is going to need a lot more support around that bend area 😮.
Do they reverse with it on .then that could put a lot of strain on it .
Every arch needs a truss
Just asking, but is there some way to span part of that arc with a gusset to strengthen it? Or would it get in the way of its operation. Love your vidios Warren.
Nice
Real life is the best life..just like yer vids
That looks to be a very poorly designed bit of equipment. Must be huge stress on that section beam, no wonder it broke, couple that with a slow operator that may be a bit rough
Why were the baskets out straight? Was it from the crash or just an optical illusion from the camera angle?
Good job . Looked difficult to get it lined up and leveled out. Just wondering why you didn't put a lenth of square tube inside of it ? Slip both ends on weild it and plate it on the outside.
Because I am a 100 miles from the place to get steel, and you missed the entire point was to get it out of the field so they could bale
I had a gehl 12ft swing tongue sickle haybine if i hit ruts head on tongue would flex but never snapped there was large/thick factory plate welded back at the pivot haybine is designed if one wheel gets hung up in a rut the hydraulic ram "lets go" on the pressure
Tell them guys to slow down!!!!
I know farmers have to work around the clock to meet their deadlines for crop planting and harvesting, but this fella needs to slow down just a bit. Equipment break downs aren't going to help him any.
No other 1/2" plates to strengthen this Warren?
That rake is of such poor design and construction needed to be much heavier gauge box section looked good in dealers yard but not rugged enough thanks for video Warren you definitely get some interesting jobs
To bad tou didn't have a foundation support to maybe put underneath it
Cool 😎
Hay rakes are junk these days. Although speed can be to blame, steel is thin and designed cheap
happens when you rake in high gear
Poor design by the manufacturer, it needs a truss .
What’s for lunch?
That whole rig is flaky. Thin wall tubing obviously can't handle the stress and the length of the arm is way too much to take the beating. Farming equipment has to be rugged. This thing ain't.. Hate to be captain obvious but beefing it up in that place will expose another weak spot somewhere else for sure.
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**THE DUDE MUST BE AN IDIOT** if he hires you. I don't get it, a Man no matter his wisdom, can still pay you the same amount the man YOU figure is Special. I don't know, maybe I fit in that same guys circle because I'd hire you!
😉😉😉😉not all the time
That whole piece needs to be replaced. The design is crap ,made worse by the thin metal of the material. No matter how you weld it, it will continually break.And the length of the arc does not lend itself to a proper brace.
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Piss poor design from the get-go.
That looks like a real cheap ass design, that beam is not big enough for that set up
Dumb design on that machine
Why do you constantly berate your customers?? If it wasn’t for them calling you… you wouldn’t have a job.
Customer didn't break it his tractor driver did that probably has the attitude not mine so high gear wide open all the way.
How come you can't quit running your mouth on my channel, I don't come in to your house and tell you how to talk, you are on my house punk so if you don't like it then get the fuck out
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Gladly… This channel is nothing but conspiracy theories and constant negativity these days anyways. You clearly have deeper issues than your RUclips comments Lmao!! Bye
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Man you really are insecure lmao
Im a fleet mechanic and that is the exact attitude they have @stevedibiase728
Warren, I never see anybody helping you. Is that your preference? If I was a farmer under pressure i would be doing everything possible to get my equipment back to work asap.
That farmer was probably working in other fields hurrying get harvests done as Warren was actually doing this.
Sometimes it is better for a farmer not to help because they always want it done different
Yo Warren where can. Contact you I got some 7018 welding rod I'll send you cause I enjoy watching you work I'd send it your way. Don't use stick much id donate it to you