Conan the Destroyer (1984) | Movie Reaction | First Time Watching | Wilt Chamberlain?
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- BY CROM! Conan is back for another adventure. Mrs. Movies dives into Conan the Destroyer (1984). Here's her reaction to her first time watching.
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Fun fact; the "Beast" at the end is an uncredited Andre the Giant
Holy Crap I did not know that but given I've seen a picture of Andre, Wilt, and Arnie all on set together it explains a lot.
@donovanbradford8231 that's one of the most wholesome pictures I've ever seen
@@donovanbradford8231 same, I always wondered why Andre is in that picture. Arnold looks so small in it.
heh I was just going to say this.
Why was he not credited? Seems unfair.
The dull part of Conan's blade is designed to be gripped for a technique called half-handing. Meant for very tight and constricting quarters you grip that part with one hand while the other hand remains on the normal grip to quickly jab and thrust the point at your target's face or weak points in armor with a gesture not unlike driving a crowbar into a door jam. It's notably quick, accurate, and offers better penetration, but at the cost of reach.
In the films Conan has used it for quicker and more controlled parries and fast chops. Scottish claymores usually had a similar design, or a covering piece of leather on the lower blade to act as a grip to compensate for the slow length and weight.
Good to know.
Thanks for commenting, you're explanation is very good and saved me the work to explain all that 😂 Everybody seems to know katana or Chinese weapons but European swords are still very misunderstood and unknown even for western countries people.
It's called half-swording
Landsknecht, German mercenaries, were pros at handling giant two-handed swords like this. Especially when you're in narrow hallways that don't have good swinging room. Which is why they were paid double for their work.
That's how I prefer to grip my sword... just saying.
According to Arnold, Grace Jones knocked out 12 stunt people with her staff including the trainer who attempted to teach her how to not hit people with it.
Explains a lot about Grace and Dolph Lundgren being a couple for awhile!
There is a photo of Arnold between Wilt, and Andre the Giant. He looks like a child standing between those men. May they both R. I. P.
No one has ever beaten Chamberlains 100 point game. All try, but fall short. And Andre, no one wanted to go one on one with him in his prime. He was too damned strong!
RIP to Mako, as well. Probably better known these days as Aku from Samurai Jack.
The monster in the red cloak has got to be a blatant reference to the classic Conan story Thieves in the House.
the ape monster is known as thak
The young actress playing the princess was only 15 at the time. Rumor had it there was a love scene written for Conan and her. Problem? Yes! Arnold was already in his 30's and she was underage. So, naturally they abandoned that whole subplot. However, it remains in the novelization I'm told.
According to IMDB she was 14 when she started. Yeah, Arnold dodged a bullet with that one (finally) by not taking part in that scene.
I mean, in the world of Hyboria and during the times of Barbarians, that age wouldn't mean much. But definitely ick by today's standards.
@@BarbaraL-b9i wow escalated into dark territory quick
Olivia D'abo appeared fully nude in BOLERO at age 14 so I don't think she had any problem doing anything a director asked.
@@BarbaraL-b9i I'd say there's a bit of a difference between sex with a teenager and an extramarital affair. I don't approve of cheating, but there is a difference.
The Mrs certainly clocked on to the Olivia D'Abo's age issue quickly, lol.
She had to be really young here, she played Kevin Arnold's sister in the wonder years, and that was like 10 years after this film. But if this was based on the time that the real era was based on marrying off a teen to an older man is right on point.
@@johnrife7134Yeah, she was 14 when it was filmed. Born in 1969
@@johnrife7134Wonder Years started around 4 years after this
@@pencilnecked1579 - I spent most of my youth crushing on her in everything she appeared in. Thankfully it was entirely appropriate because I was born in 1970. She's as cute as a button.
12:08 "She's a biter." Yes she is, cause she actually bit Wilt in that scene. She was a wild one on set.
Grace Jones is still her usual wild self even at 70+. Moves the same too, and no wrinkles.
She has the genetics of an ebony amazon for sure
Have you seen Big Trouble in Little China? That has the ultimate wizard off.
Ya! Because it has the ultimate EVERYTHING in it 😊
Second only to Gandalf vs Saruman, I'd say. But that one came years later …
8:40 Olivia d'Abo (the princees) was 15 in this maybe 14 during some of the recording born in 1969. She was 23 for an episode of Star Trek: TNG.
9:20 lookup the movie named "Caveman"
Oh was she in the episode of TNG where a girl gets the power of the Q and she starts rushing on Riker
@@donovanbradford8231 yes. That is the one.
As a D&D player, this movie is an almost textbook old school D&D campaign. We've got the Fighter, the Thief, the Wizard, the Monk and they're escorting a magical princess on a quest to retrieve a magical MacGuffin. What more could you ask for?
" Quest for Fire" is a good prehistoric movie.
Also has Rae Dawn Chong naked, which I like.
I came into the comments to make sure someone told her the name of the 80's caveman film.
Andre The Giant portrayed the horned monster that Conan fights in thr movie, which is pretty amazing and 3 time Oscar Winning VFX artist Carlo Rambaldi designed the monster suit as well.
Are you sure? I've never heard that
Lol alien had already been made and here we have a 10 dollar rubber mask from any halloween store
@@zakarylux2271 There is a picture from the set with Andre on one side and Wilt on the other and they are picking up a tiny by comparison Arnold with one arm each like you would your little nephew at a cookout.
Chris Hansen in the background cracked me up!!!! Nearly spat my beer out. Sheer BRIALLIANT!
"You GRAB him...and TAKE him!"
"Grab him...and take him?"
"TAKE him!"
Yay Grace Jones!
When the princess accuses Bombata of not being a real man it probably means he's a eunuch.
I was going to leave a comment saying you're wrong because a eunuch would make a terrible warrior having no testosterone. But after looking it up, you're right. Canonically, he was a eunuch.
A lot of middle eastern rulers had eunuch bodyguards back in the day - probably because they wouldn't cause any trouble with their harems.
when Malik was given the job of Fool, that's a huge honor and a big responsibility. their entire job is to call the royalty out on their shit.
Nipple curtains had me rolling lol...
All these people in the comments hating. What’s with these people?
The movies may not be on the same level as the original but this is still a super fun epic sword and sorcery adventure! Around being Arnold with his band of Misfits. Like it’s not that serious.
It's not bad but it is a noticeable step down from the first.
@@cory6266 That’s a fair assessment. I just think shitting on it, isn’t fair.
I like this one just as much as the first. Loved Conan when I was a kid.
@@XghostXfaceX2 this is because a very silly movie(which I enjoyed) called The Sword and The Sorcerer somehow scared the producers into not trusting the original formula that the first Conan film started. Bowing to a trend is shitting on the first one; which was crafted with great respect to the source stories.
@@waynezimmerman1950Sword and the Sorcerer was lighter in tone than Conan part 1 but it still was gritty R rated 80's fantasy. Conan the Destroyer does seem aimed at a younger audience but it still has it's moments... And Arnie no matter what is always charismatic.
There was a caveman movie called Caveman with Shelley Long, Dennis Quaid and Ringo Starr.
She might be thinking of Quest For Fire
Quite right.
@@hastingscutoff1304 I love it, quite a beautiful film. Definitely in my top 50 of all time list. It's the role Ron Perlman was born to play.
@@hastingscutoff1304 Dumpster fire? It's a comedy that I think Mrs. Movies would find entertaining.
I had such a massive crush on Sarah Douglass (the evil queen/witch) when this came out. As Mr. Movies said, she also played Ursa in Superman II.
P.S. The idea of Wilt Chamberlain protecting anyone's virginity is ludicrous. 😆
She was looking pretty fine in this.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 underrated comment
Savage. 😂😂😂😂
To be fair, his character in the movie was a eunuch. Also, as I understand it, he treated Olivia D'Abo (the actress who played the princess) like a little sister behind the scenes and wouldn't let anyone mess with her. So while he was known for having many, MANY lovers, he was still a straight up good guy.
37:26 That's Andre The Giant.
Sarah Douglas plays Queen Taramis, she also was Ursa on Superman and Superman II
I assume the god went nuts there at the end cause they didn’t kill the girl to complete the ritual.
There actually is a technique called half-swording, where you grip the blade. It can help you direct the tip towards a specific target, or get leverage when thrusting. There's also a technique called a murder stroke, where you reverse the sword and swing it by the blade, to try and smash the cross guard into a skull. Bear in mind this is usually done with guantlets.
As an analogy for half-swording and leverage, it's much easier to dig dirt with a shovel when you hold one hand part way down the shovel's shaft as opposed to holding both hands at the end furthest from the shovel blade
I believe it. Those type of swords are all about brute force blows, not precision cutting. You can even use the sides of the blade to knock somebody out.
Fascinating.
Destroyer was my first Conan flick as a kid. The wizard in the mirror room scared the crap out of me as a little guy.
19:49 This is the same actor, Sven-Ole Thorson, that played the Hammer wielding Thorgrim in the first movie. He is a stuntman and bodybuilder friend of Arnold's and was in several movies with him, such as Red Sonja, Predator, The Running Man and Totall Recall, to name a few.
"My cousin's sister's brother." So...your cousin? I love this movie.
Well if you have a half brother and he has a half sister, then that sister might not be related to you at all. Her cousin wouldn't be your cousin.
During the filming of this Arnold went to watch a wrestling match Where Andre the Giant was. Later Andre, Arnold, and wilt had a picture taken together. Arnold looks like a child next to them.
Andre playes the final boss monster here uncredited in costume you know
8:37 She was probably 14 when they were filming, and 15 when the film was released.
Olivia D'abo 1969.
I had a mad crush on Olivia after this movie!
I would like to recommend Willow from the year. 1988 where Val kilmore met his wife on set.
Sorsha (Joanne Whalley) is why I've had a thing for red heads my whole life 😁🥰🤣😂🤣
Not sure if it’s correct, but I remember hearing that Kull the Conqueror is in the same universe.
Yes, another Robert E. Howard character. Kull is from an even earlier time, thousands of years before Conan, when Atlantis was still above the waves. He was one of Conan's ancestors.
In the movie, one of Kull's lines is when he introduces himself as Kull of Atlantis
Correct, Thulsa Doom is a Kull villain.
Olivia D'Abo was 15 when this movie was released, and was between 13 and 14 during filming. This didn't bother me when I was 14.
Well "Caveman" the movie has Ringo Star, Dennis Quad, John Matuszack, and Shelley Long. A classic early 1980s comedy I think you'll enjoy.
what i liked is the picture of Arnold, Wilt and Andre together and seeing Arnold so small at 6f 2
The "caveman movie" that Mrs. Movies is thinking of might be Quest For Fire. Great movie. You guys should add it to the list.
Or Clan of the Cave Bear. Maybe One Million Years B.C.
Or possibly Caveman, starring Ringo Star, Shelly Long, and some stop motion dinosaurs and beasts.
@@michaelpytel3280
Yes the most famous one with Raquel Welsh.
One Million Years B.C.
1 Million Years B.C. was the first movie I ever saw as a child. Which, now that I think about it, explains rather a lot about how I turned out. 🤔@@AntiChannel1
There are some 'Caveman' movies around, but I don't think it was "Quest for Fire" - that movie should have stuck in her mind better.
Definitively a must watch, and from the same director of "The Name of the Rose".
I was 12. This was the greatest movie ever, that Saturday.
Talking about ahead of its time, this movie hired comic book writers of the original Conan Marvel Comics to write the screenplay for this, and Grace Jones' "Zula" was originally a man in the comics as well, but a gender swap took place. This movie, for better or worse, was the precursor to how comic book movies are made today.
* were made until today.
Lately they switched to people who do not read the source material or were involved in any of it. And it shows …
I loved Mrs. Movies looking at that opening shot of Conan going, "oh yeah candy for the ladies😎"
Sad fact: The director, Basil Polidouris the Composer and Mako the actor all died in 2006. Not a good year for those involved with this movie.
The tone is off, but it has a solid cast. If this film had delivered on the "Conan gets his kingdom" premise instead of delaying it again, it might have felt more essential and less throwaway.
There is a deleted scene in which the guard got farther away and by the time conan caught up and rescued the princess, they were too far from the group and had to camp overnight. Well, conan being conan and the princess already having a crush on him,.. long story short, the reason why the ceremony went sideways was because she was no longer a virgin. Oh that conan.
I always thought it was because she had to be sacrificed at the very beginning and the monster went nuts because she wasn't. But given the actresses age I can see why it was deleted. Maybe it was in the script but then they realized she was too young and said scrap it.
There is a picture of Arnold with Wilt Chamberlin and Andre the Giant for size and height comparison.
What about "Conan the Librarian"? 😊😉
Don't you know the dewey decimal system!
the books are a bit overdue....aaah!
I can’t think about Conan without thinking of UHF
Such a great skit in a great movie!
The actor that played Conan the Librarian is a friend and former stand in for Arnold. Wonderful guy too, I got to do a fight scene with him here in Michigan for an indie film.
And the young blonde girl played the older sister in the original, the wonder years.❤
Everybody piles on this movie. It's a movie about fur lined leather battle panties and sword swinging, relax.
It's lame compared to the first one.
@@lw3918 So? It's still fun on it's own terms.
It's supposed to be a more campy version of the original. Take it as it is.
@@davidlionheart2438 I disagree.
Happy 40th Anniversary Conan the Destroyer!!⚔🎞😉
the QUEEN
thought that statue of the
" PRINCE "
would grant her
IMMORTALITY & POWER
but the warning that
couldn't be translated
because
it was a forgotten language
was a warning about it being a
DEMON
that was trapped
&
the 2 power stones
hidden
the jewel
&
the horn
Olivia d'Abo was barely fifteen when the movie premièred. So during filming she was 14.
WHAT?! 😮
@@hulkslayer626 yep. Young, pretty, talented actress. I'd say she did a great job, didn't she?
@artursandwich1974 I'm not at liberty to say anything on the matter... lmao I no longer have an opinion 😆
The girl playing the princess was only 14 when she did it, and it's her movie debut, Olivia D'abo
Chris Hanson peeking around the corner had me rolling!
Mrs. Movies doesn’t need makeup. Her beauty is natural.
another Fun Fact.... The One Guard that Conan did the duel with in the Forest was actually his weight lifting buddy. He was in the first Movie as Thorvid...he was also the main guard in the Running Man. He had done alot of movies with Arnold.
I've seen him pop up in a few films and didn't realize that they were buds but given he's bigger than Arnold I can see them lifting together.
I have a photograph of Wilt Chamberlain standing next to a childhood friend of my father, Richard Belzer, who played Munch on Law & Order SVU, the picture was taken at a basketball camp in Bridgeport Connecticut in 1959.
8:39 - "How old is she? We talking like 19, or like 16? She seems very young." - Olivia D'Abo was 14 in this. I remember once reading a magazine article that said the original, scripted idea was for her to walk through the flames and retrieve the horn, in the nude. I forget exactly why it said they changed it. Common sense would say it was because of her age, but the same year that this came out, she she appeared fully nude in the movie Bolero with Bo Derek. Things were different back then...
This movie is awesome, all you haters need to chill out.
I remember seeing this on a double feature with Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone at a drive-in back in the day. That drive-in was torn down and an office was built on the land.
A part of me dies inside every time they tear down a drive-in.
I train in historical European martial arts.
You can hold a blade if you know the correct way to hold it. Also historically a knight would have worn gloves or gauntlets to further protect their hand.
It's called half *wording and it's a common technique fahown in the surviv8ng training manuals from the 14th and 15th centuries. It allowed for more control when stabbing and also for you to use the hilt and pommel of the sword as blunt force weapons.
To quote another movie, the blade is not the only part of a sword
writer of conan the books robert e howard was friends with lovecraft and wrote storys for him , conan is placed in same universe and that monster at the end is one of the old gods
The Oriental magician was played by the late, Great MAKO.
There are pictures of Andre the Giant on the set with Wilt and Arnold.
Because he played end boss monster
16:23 That's Pat Roach from Indiana Jones & Foxy Brown.
No, that's actually Pat Roach, who was playing the wizard. But he also played all those big guys Indiana Jones fought.
@@gutz1981 Correct!!!
Wizards cast memorized spells with spell components and/or magic items.
Magic of arcane will is sorcery, cast by sorcerers.
Magic cast by priests, monks, paladins, clerics, etc.. is divine magic granted by a god.
@youmeandthemovies , do you realize that with Dune, Conan the Barbarian, Conan the Destroyer, AND Red Sonja you guys did a mini Dino De Laurentiis month?? Great coincidence that!!
Surely you will show her Excalibur. Some classic actors in it.
The actor who plays the wizard in this also did the voice of Uncle in Avatar The Last Air Bender animated series. The actor's name was Mako
Not just a lady.
She's a Kryptonian
The best "wizard off" is the battle at the end of the animated movie "Wizards"
Actually it's a common technique called half handing. Mostly used for extremely close combat using longswords, or to give added control for a party.
Is still see the map of California when the queen asked him "show me the desires in your deepest heart"
Conan!
I definitely agree fall into the minority that I love this movie because I did watch this first, as a kid, so that nostalgia is there for me 😄
"What a really *_sh*tty_* aunt"
Read the Robert Jordan novelization and see the nightmare Jehnna was screaming about in the earlier scene.
In case anyone hasnt mentioned it yet, Conan The Destroyer was actually written by the people who did the 70's Conan comic, while the first was written by someone else. But I'm not sure if some of the goofy stuff in Destroyer was actually in the script as opposed to improvised by the director ans actors.
I loved this movie as a kid. I remember going with my parents to the mom & pop video store and renting this movie along with the VCR to watch it with.
Olivia d'Abo aka Princess Jehnna was about 15 years old when this movie came out
I saw this movie as kid many times on VHS, I'm surprised still remember lot of scenes...
There is a strike which translates to Murder Strike, where you hold a two-handed sword on the blade and hit the enemy with the hilt. Though it's meant to be used fully armoured.
When I was a kid, this movie was enthralling to me. I can agree that it's a slow pace, even watching a condensed version like this it was taking forever. Maybe I was taken in by the adventure in a land of swords and magic, maybe more movies were of a slower pacing, maybe it's because we're all used to faster paced movies now, or maybe some combination of all three, who knows. When Dwayne Johnson went to Hollywood, a lot of us hoped there would be more Conan movies with him at the head, never happened though.
You might enjoy watching The Villain, a movie set in the wild west with Arnold in one of his firt movies. It's very slapstick and funny. You should definitely check out the image of Wilt and Andre the Giant next to Arnold, helps you to see how a tall person can look tiny next to a pair of massive men.
Thanks for the reaction and having us all over, hope everyone has a great day.
One of my favorites as a kid. It's a fun time, exciting, creative, a journey. The first movie is great too.. but in the end both movies are really two different sides a coin. Which I'm thankful for.
I think 'the caveman movie' she's thinking about is the Quest for Fire.
Other comments describe the half hand/sword technique. Specifically in armored combat, knights are pretty much impervious to slashing and cutting, swords become the same as clubs at that point. Bludgeoning is still damaging, but works slowly. To deal a debilitating wound, knights need to either pierce the armor with a spiked weapon or stab the weak joints or visor of the helmet. Half swording provides the accuracy to do this with a regular sized sword. But with Conan's sword and considering it takes place in an age before armored combat, I doubt it provides sufficient accuracy in combat. It does provide additional leverage to dislodge the sword if it gets stuck.
Fighting with a hand on the blade is called half handing and actually was pretty common in medieval times.
Quest For Fire is a great caveman movie I truly recommend
Chris Hansen: "why don't you have a seat?"
By the way, this is the one I was allowed to see when I was little so it's nostalgic for me
I do have somewhat fond nostalgic memories from watching and enjoying this as a kid, but even back then I knew it wasn't a patch on the original _Conan the Barbarian_ .
Wondering if Evil-Lyn from He-Man was based off Queen Tarimus or vice versa!!
The background music always gets me... Amazing scores!
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mice are cute
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John Millius chose to direct Red Dawn instead of this. Production of The Terminator was delayed so this could be made. The actress playing the princess' aunt was in Superman II. The actor playing Conan's sidekick is also in Tim Burton's Batman. The actress playing the princess provides her voice in Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Arnold 6'2". Wilt 7'1" Andre 7'4". But if you look at promo shots Andre looks shorter than wilt. Thoth Amon in the books was the mightiest sorcerer in the hyborian age, he was Conan's greatest nemesis for many decades, his scene doesn't seem to pay proper homage. Mako (the wizard) IMO greatest fight scene as a martial artist was in "The Big Brawl" with Jackie Chan.
Pretty sure Arnold really isn't that tall. He has done some movies with Sylvester Stallone and Sly is all of 5'10 or 5'11 for reference. I helped an NBA player load his groceries into his car and held an umbrella over him, which looked ridiculous. He was 7'2 and I am 6'0.
@@davestang5454 I thought he was shorter too, but according to Google that's what he is.
@@davestang5454No he is pretty tall which is why he competed in the tall man category for the Mr Olympia competitions
Amazing to think he did this the same year as Terminator.
I don't think it's better than the first but I still enjoy it. It always felt like a fun d&d type story. After all these years, i appreciate it for doing it's own thing. Also, I've read a lot of the original stories and this contains more elements from them. Not the campiness but the mythology stuff.
I did not expect to laugh so much in a reaction of this movie. You guys were on fire.
I also liked the small touches, was that Winslet? lol
As for the movie, as a kid I liked it a lot, same with Red Sonja (your reaction I watched earlier). I don't remember which of the 3 I liked the most, but I am glad I did when I was a kid. Good role models.
Edit: Though the music in the first one was just superb.
In the novelization the princess is 16, however Conan is only 19 himself.
Technically, they kind of did make a third Conan movie (and im not talking about Red Sonja). They actually had written a screenplay for Conan The Conqueror, and were all set to begin production. The problem was that Arnold Schwarzenegger was no longer contracted with Dino De'Laurentis, so when he was approached to make the third movie he was demanding to be paid more money than their entire production budget. When they couldn't come up with a satisfactory agreement, Arnold went off to make Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines, and Dino went ahead with his Conan movie. He replaced Arnold with Kevin Sorbo (TV's Hercules The Legendary Journeys) and changed the name of the movie to Kull The Conqueror, because he didn't think that anyone would accept anybody other than Arnold Schwarzenegger in the role of Conan. So there actually is ONE MORE (quasi) Conan movie within this cinematic universe.
As a substitute for the Titanic clip, the twirling disco bar flashback scene in "Airplane!", would have been acceptable.
The Princess is Jedi Master Luminara Unduli.
This was a great fantasy movie of childhood.
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There is no point for a sword that size to have a part of the blade that is unsharpen. But you can find similar things on larger two-handed swords, the kind that are 6 to 7 feet long. This was done to allow the user to weild like a spear in a more precise maner than when they are holding it with both hands on the hilt.
fun underrated sequel
9:16 The caveman movie could be, "Quest For Fire," or, "Clan of The Cave Bear."
Quest came out in 1981 & has Ron Perelman in it, while Clan is from '86 and starred Daryl Hannah. They're the most non-(intentionally) comedic films about prehistoric people that came out around a similar time to the Conan films. There were others, notably, "Caveman," with Ringo Starr and, "One Million Years B.C.," with Raquel Welch, but they were usually either comedies or late night drive-in quality cheese.
They were both closer to art films than either Conan movie, along with being relatively mainstream productions with higher-than-art house budgets, so they had TV ads, posters & the like. If Mrs. Movies' memories are based on ads or VHS covers etc. and I had to guess, "Quest For Fire," is the most visually similar to the Conan films.