I spent 40 years in Osaka (a small town in Japan), so I don't appreciate your comment about me quote "butchering the language". My waifu is a Japanese native, and I've practiced with her (well she doesn't actually respond) for years.
"Even though a ton of people study Japanese and base their entire personalities around it, practically none of them can actually speak it." Truer words have never been spoken,
@@made_you_mad I'm shaming language learners specifically, not just people who merely like the culture. Specifically the largely Reddit based community of Japanese learners who Language Simp mentions in the video. I'm a hypocrite because I have a very basic level of Japanese myself, but a lot of people online are using ineffective methods, such as people who believe speaking is bad and you have to spend all your time watching anime.
As someone learning Japanese but isn’t into anime and “western Japanese culture”, it’s difficult to tell friends and family I’m learning Japanese without being called a weeb lol
That sucks man. This is like when someone who is learning French start calling or assuming that it’s gay lol (LanguageSimp already explained it in a video)
At first I was offended that from all languages in East Asia, you made a full language review of Chinese. But now that you made one about Japanese I've realized the truth. You are reserving the most important language of that zone for last. The glorious North Korean language
@@elcubano8843The mozambiquean speakers of east timor have already been contemplated! The other 99% are waiting anxiously (or not) for the time to come.
Same, literally just the first 30s was horrible. But this is also why this channel is great because he rags on literally every language and those that learn it
Let me know who your Waifu is! CORRECTION: I guess Kagoshima is not the Kyushu dialect with no pitch accent. I have an inside native Japanese source telling me it is actually the Kumamoto dialect that doesn’t use pitch accent. YEEHAW
I'm from Brazil and I decided to learn Japanese right before the pandemic started and I basically spent all my free time (which was a lot) to learn Japanese in basically 1 and a half years. I've decided to learn Japanese at the time (when I was 13/14 years old) because it was a dream of mine to study engineering in Japan. But in the end, I learned Japanese and I don't want to do engineering anymore, although I still really want to do an exchange there. I've studied by myself Japanese, which was very hard, at first because I didn't speak English, and the best dictionaries were Japanese to English, but I did. My third language was obviously English after that. I didn't have contact with the community of people who study Japanese, because even though I like anime, my objective was strictly professional. In the end I say that it was worth studying and learning Japanese, I think the language is beautiful and I always make a good impression when I say that I know how to speak and read Japanese. This was the most challenging language for me so far, I've already learned English, French and now I'm learning Libras (Brazilian sign language). I love studying languages, I will probably continue studying for the rest of my life. It's very pleasurable to understand things that before I wasn't even able to conceive the meaning of. If someone wants to learn Japanese, even if it's because of anime, it will be worth it, but don't talk like an anime character to the Japanese people, it won't work very well. Aliás, eu adoro o canal, Language Simp. Continue com excelente trabalho. Abraços from Brasa!
WOOOW!!! I am absolutely flabbergasted! I was convinced the first entry into the dogwater tier would be reserved for Esperanto and then this man does this! He truly does not fear the anime weebs and their ferocious toxicity. This man truly is a Gigachad Alpha Male Polyglot.
Next language review should be for the magical language Icelandic with a gigachad rating, since it’s one of the prettiest languages ever created, and it’s one of the coolest / most modern languages, which makes it the perfect language to show off with for all that want to sound as cool as possible, and it’s easy to learn / memorize the Icelandic words, being a Germanic language, as all Germanic languages are category 1 and category 2 languages with almost only gorgeous words with great letter combinations that go well 2gether and pretty word endings, and one’s hern naturally remembers the prettier and more distinctive words faster, which makes Germanic languages the easiest languages ever, and also the easiest to read, as Germanic languages have the most organized aspect and use normal letters / the Latin alphabet which is the easiest and most logical alphabet - Esperanto is a nice language, while languages such as Japanese and other similar languages are indeed dogwater, and most Japanese words sound embarrassingly funny, with random syllables / sounds slæpt 2gether that do not go well 2gether, most Japanese words being non-pretty, and many of them have repetition of the same syllable, which indicates a poorly-constructed language, same as Korean and other similar languages, and I don’t understand why would one want to learn such languages, that aren’t pretty and that are also unnecessarily complicated with impossible characters and shapes that aren’t even a true writing system and with many tones or pitch accents or whatever, which are so complicated and don’t even sound good, when there are truly gorgeous and perfect languages like Icelandic / Norse / Dutch / Norwegian / Gothic / Danish / Welsh / Breton / Irish / Galician etc with gorgeous words and great / modern pronunciation rules that weren’t constructed at random and that actually follow the most logical patterns, just like English!
Also, I am the only being reflecting terms like wf / waifu / wife etc and all other love related terms / femininity terms / superiority terms etc, and I cannot stand anime etc - another thing that makes no sense is the misuse of superiority pronouns etc, and all languages need to drop all that ‘polite’ ns, and one must use the same normal pronoun / words etc when talking to all ppl, since all ppl are just an avrg citizen made to obey the avrg citizen’s laws and rules, not some type of special / superior being that one must address in special ways, which are only meant for me the superior being / the pure being and The Leader / The God(dess) / The Queen / The Princess / The Lady / The Star etc, and, I know some Germanic languages also have this ‘polite’ ns with misused superiority pronouns, however, from what I have noticed, in Asian languages it is even more mässed up, with 3 to 6 or more ‘levels of politeness’ which is total ns, and very dskrmntïng against the younger ones, and it’s also big term misuse in general, so ppl must not misuse such terms anymore, and all should do the right thing and use the same normal pronoun when talking to all ppl, as the speakers of the Nordic languages do, Nordic languages being the most logical when it comes to pronoun use, using the same pronoun / way of addressing etc, as the same pronoun is used when talking to all ppl in languages such as Icelandic / Norse, and I think Swedish / Norwegian etc also, and English also uses the same pronoun, which makes them even better, tho all Germanic languages are pretty, even tho some of them misuse special pronouns, but it’s all up to the speaker tho, so one has the choice not to misuse the special pronouns and to only use the normal pronouns du or je / jij etc when talking to all ppl, which is what I do, and I highly recommend doing the same in all languages, as opposed to doing what most ppl do when it’s a wrøńg thing, so if one is a learner or a speaker of any of those languages, one should only use the normal pronoun such as du / je etc, and, I highly recommend learning Icelandic + Norse which are just too pretty not to know, and all other Germanic languages are also super gorgeous, so all Germanic languages are a great option, and are real fun to learn and speak and see etc!
By the way, my current levels are... - intermediate level in Old Norse / Icelandic / Welsh - writer level in English + native speaker level in Spanish - upper advanced level in Dutch + advanced level in Norwegian - mid intermediate level in German / Swedish / Portuguese / French / Italian - beginner level in Breton / Hungarian / Gothic / Latin / Faroese / Galician / Danish / Slovene - total beginner in Cornish / Manx / Irish / Scottish Gaelic / Aranese / Elfdalian / Gallo / Limburgish / Occitan / Luxembourgish / Catalan / East Norse / Ripuarian / Swiss German / Alemanic / Austrian German / PlatDeitsch / Greenlandic Norse / Friulian / Pretarolo / Sardinian / Neapolitan / Sicilian / Venetian / Esperanto / Walloon / Ladin / Guernsey / Norn / Burgundian / West Frisian / North Frisian / East Frisian / Yiddish / Afrikaans / Finnish / Latvian / Estonian etc (and the other languages based on Dutch / German / Norwegian / Italian / French that are referred to as ‘dialects’ but are usually a different language with different spelling etc) (I highly recommend learning Dutch / Icelandic + Norse + Faroese / Norwegian as they are so magical, as pretty / refined / poetic as English - all other Germanic and the other pretty languages on my list are also gorgeous, so they are all a great option!)
It’s actually interesting to find out that there are way more ppl that are learning Dutch than learners of Japanese - I think Dutch has 5 million learners or so! Dutch is one of the prettiest languages ever, like English and Icelandic and Norse etc, so one naturally wants to learn a pretty language as pretty words bring a lot of joy to the eye / ear, so it makes sense that pretty languages have many learners, despite not being included in most language related videos and on most lists of recommended languages etc! But the pretty languages should always be included the most and the most recommended, as it’s the pretty languages that truly deserve the attention and that all should know of and learn and speak etc, so I cannot recommend them enough! I know about all the pretty languages (or almost all) because I have been searching for them myself, and I have seen and heard over 1.000 languages so far, and I found over 50 pretty languages, which are on my list of languages I want to learn and improve! I only started learning languages on my own about one year ago, and before that, I didn’t even know about Icelandic and Norse and Faroese etc and most other gorgeous languages myself, because most of them are almost never included or talked about, as they have very few native speakers and the ancient ones don’t have a group of speakers that use them as the main language, so most usually just include the languages with the most native speakers, so it’s mostly Asian languages that get included in videos etc, which is so annoying, like, I am literally tired of hearing about Asian languages in general, it’s really getting boring to hear about them over and over, so all should start including the pretty languages instead, including the ones with very few native speakers and no native speakers etc, which are truly fun to hear about and to see / hear / speak etc, so I always feel this joy inside when someone includes a gorgeous language such as Icelandic or Welsh or Norse etc in a video, not only because they are one of the prettiest languages ever created, but also because they are one of those very unknown languages most ppl don’t know about and that aren’t usually included or talked about, so it’s not easy to find videos where they are mentioned or spoken or recommended etc, and I don’t usually get this feeling with super pretty languages that are very known and used all the time, like English and German and Italian etc, because I hear them and I hear about them all the time, so it’s definitely a lot more emotional for me when I hear about very unknown languages like Icelandic and Norse and Gothic or Breton and Welsh and Irish etc!
Studying abroad in Osaka right now, can confirm all of my japanese friends know about and actively avoid those people who make anime their entire personality. Very funny to listen to
this thing was getting so optimistic I thought it was gonna be mid or alpha tier, but mr. simp didn’t disappoint and made weaboos even more depressed by putting it in dogwater
Don't be surprised in the slightest. Japan got dogwater on a tier list and beta on another tier list by Language Simp. I thought Chinese was gonna get the Alpha but it got mid.
Language Simp is also highly inconsistent on Russian. He awarded it the gigachad tier once but bashed on it as dogwater when talking about most underrated languages
Man, as a Pole, I'd love to see you try Polish again. You know, the simple consonant pronunciation (sz, cz, ć, ś, ź, ż, dz, c), easy ortography (hundreds of language rules to remember), the simple grammar (seven cases, five genders and thousands of hours of theory), and finally - the glory of Polish grandmas.
But it's all worth it - poles will definitely give you the deed to your house and do backflips when you speak their language. Well, unless you're slavic
as a japanese learner who is learning japanese for reasons other than anime and waifus i can agree with the sentiments in this video, people just assume im a cringe otaku with body pillows if i mention im studying japanese and even my japanese teacher expected that to be the reason why im learning it, shit sucks ass but once you get into it and start being able to make sentences and talk to people its really fun and japanese people are always really happy that youre trying to actually be respectful of their language and culture for once. 11/10 video
I’m learning japanese right now, I can’t believe how mind blowing it is to be able to read Hirgana and even some Kanji. Like 日 for example, I recognize it as being “day” but here you used it as “sun” so I was like “hey, it must mean sun/day!”. Pretty cool stuff!
I've been studying Japanese on and off again for 3 years and everything he says about the Japanese learning community is true. It's part of the reason why I'm not where I want to be in my journey with the language. I still love the language (it is my favorite) and I will come back to it one day, but for now I'm taking a break from Japanese. I'm about to start learning Taco Language (Spanish) in a couple weeks.
Yup, the best thing you can do as a japanese learner is to leave the japanese learning community. I focused on reading books and watching anime, and I'm no longer 鬱
Hey, I can confirm. I just checked r/Japaneselanguage and it’s full of a bunch of pretentious idiots bro. Better to study by yourself or use italki instead.
@@sakesaurusYou mean in terms of phonetic and pronunciation? Yeah, as a Taco Language native speaker I can confirm Japanese pronunciation is dogwater level for us (easy as 123).
the main reaction you're going to get for being capable of speaking Japanese on any level is the instant relief when they realize that they don't have to try speaking English to you.
Wa and Ga are very fun particles, because Japanese is topic prominent, while many nom eastern asian languages are subject prominent. This means that technically the word order of Japanese isn't SOV, but it is still head final, so the verb goes at the end. And if anyone cares, I'll explain here the difference between the Wa and Ga particles. The Wa particle marks the TOPIC of the sentence. The Ga particle marks the subject when it isn't the topic. Now, what does it mean for something to be the TOPIC? The topic is what the sentence is about, and it often changes little in conversations (which means that it can be dropped easily). Wording English in a way that encapsulates this idea of topic prominence will lead to sentences like: As for people, dogs bite them. In Japanese you'd just say People-wa dogs-ga bite. Dogs is the subject, the one who does the verb. People is the Topic, so dogs biting has something to do with people. Thus you get something that only makes sense to be analysed and translated as "People are bitten by dogs". When there's both a Wa and a Ga in a sentence, treat the noun with Wa as the subject of a passive verb, and the noun with Ga as the agent of the verb. That's very simple. If you want your subject to be the topic of discussion, use Wa. If you want your subject not to change the topic of discussion, use Ga. It's a bit more finnicky than this but I believe I've written enough
Another example to further exemplify this: -Hey, what can you tell me about Tom? -Tomu wa inu ga suki. (Tom likes dogs) -Do you know anybody who likes dogs? -Tomu ga inu wa suki (Tom likes dogs) So in the first reply, the topic particle wa is used with Tom because he's the topic of the conversation, exploring various facets of him. In the second reply, the subject particle ga is used with Tom because the topic of the conversation is about dog lovers, and Tom is one of the answers.
@@noseboop4354Tomu ga Inu wa suki would mean dog likes tom and is not making sense. When you want to say somebody likes something, the thing the person likes must be the subject and you could imagine the structure of the sentence "Tomu wa inu ga suki" being like "speaking of Tom(for Tom), dogs are nice"
@@azzie2938 No it doesn't. Clearly you have only read some Genki textbooks, the sentence makes perfect sense in the way I illustrated. Show it to 100 Japanese people, not a single one of them would interpret it as 'dog likes Tom'.
Yeah it's a beautiful language but some of the community is pretty awful. I saw one commenter on a post that he had made on a translator sub asking people to translate some Japanese that he couldn't understand and he was trying to reassure everyone there that he really was good at Japanese and replied to someone who helped with part of it saying he was "resisting the urge to say arigato" made me regret my life choices that had led up to that moment
@@anonymous-iu4th its a great, beautifully language, I've been studying it for a few years now and I'm pretty bad at it. I often feel bad about telling people I am learning it sometimes. At my university, there is one person in particular who fits the weeb description perfectly, and even to a point of criminalty... and I couldn't be more ashamed sometimes.
One of my closest friends has been teaching me Japanese. In part because he's half Japanese, partly because he's one of my Judo instructors and he wants me to appreciate the moves more by learning their names and meanings, and also because I'm going to be collaborating with a Japanese research group next year... something tells me I'll inevitably get sucked down the anime and manga rabbithole tho
I've been studying for about a year now. Tutors online, and from my text book as well as a lot of listening and reading. I honestly love that I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not about your disdain towards anime folks. It made the video very funny since I just found your channel. I laughed so hard because I've seen the Input vs Output battle play out a million times on some of the subs. I stand with a "The most effective way to learn the language is the one that keeps you coming back to it."
I feel the reasoning for your grading 100%. Am learning Japanese for a little over 2 years now and I barely ever mention that I do because 90% of the reactions are "oh a weeb" or "do you like these cartoons?" It's super frustrating to even find people who genuely are interested in the language without anime, so I am still not finding any partner to practive conversation with. Even after completing N3...
Imo N1 is the bare minimum to have any understanding of japanese. JLPT gives a fake scale as the tests only grade comprehension no production. Got my N1 4 years ago and could barely string two words together. Took hundreds of hours of conversation practice to get to where i can kinda call myself fluent. It's a long road and you need so many hours of interacting with the language to get anywhere... It makes sense most of the people who both care enough and have the time are otakus and obsessed with anime. Online I met some of the most degenerate racist pedophiles being absolutely cracked at japanese. The effort is just not worth for most "normal" people. I like anime too but I don't learn jp for anime i like the language. If you really like the language i recommend watching ゆる言語学ラジオ on youtube extremely interesting linguistics discussions
I double majored in linguistics and Japanese, and I often feel like leaving it off my resume because of the questions and comments I get about it. I don't think any other language has as many negative stereo types attached to it.
I have been learning for 1 year and 3/4. For me they mostly ask me if it is like Chinese, some do ask if I like anime and I think that's a completely fine question. I don't think there needs to be a problem with other people that learn Japanese and watch anime or start learning the language because of it as long as they don't just go around making fun of the language or behaving cringe-like in Japan bringing a bad example for us foreigners. I do like anime and it is part of the reason I started learning the language, but does that make me less likeable even if I have other interests in the language?
Thanks for introducing my local accent which even Japanese people don’t really know! I bet you’ll have hard time understanding the “dialect” version of it as there is no comprehensive resource to learn it for non Kagoshima residents (yet), but I guess you can learn the accent. The pronunciation of the accent is largely based on the syllabic phonology of the dialect, so I actually DO struggle recognizing moras in Tokyo accent even though I’m a “native” Japanese speaker lol. Oh btw, I don’t hate people speaking only in words from famous Anime, but tbh it’s somewhat awkwa…, well, hilarious (just think of someone always quoting from Hollywood movies + internet memes whenever they talk).
Is it true that in Kagoshima you differentiate between the phonemes じ and ぢ, and between the phonemes ず and づ? I find this very interesting, it is sad that romanization follows the Tokyo pattern and generally does not differentiate /ji/ and /dji/ nor /zu/ and /dzu/.
@@niwa_s Romanizing according to the Kagoshima dialect, in this case, is more coherent with Japanese writing, romanizing everything as /z/ or /j/, following the Tokyo dialect, moves it away from Hiragana and Katakana writing, in addition to requiring more research into which case it should be pronounced as /j/ or /dj/, or as /z/ or /dz/, romanizing with the Kagoshima dialect follows the etymological writing of the language, in this case.
@@camaradatrotsky5584 It'd also be missing the point of romanisation to perpetuate artificial phonetic distinctions, though. If you want the full story rather than an approximation in another script, you'll always need to interact with the original text. Out of all potential issues you could pick at in the standard romanisation system it seems quite minor as well, tbh.
I think the language with the most shock factor to natives is swedish. Everytime i spoke swedish or got the pronunciation right they would at lest make three backflips in a row randomly combust and give me everything they own. It's crazy.
As a Japanese, I can confirm that there is another difficulty level where you need to memorise when to use alternative sounds of Kanji. *Just for reference, there are almost more than 2 ways of pronouncing a Kanji, and if you mix them up, it will sound very weird so be careful of that!
That's only if you're focusing on learning kanji instead of learning words. If you learn the words instead, you'll have no problem figuring what pronunciation to use. It's just like "e" in english, where it's pronounced differently in "east" and "west" but no one have trouble pronouncing the 2.
similar to Chinese, I think it makes more sense to learn the words and their meaning, before learning how to write them. With european languages it's usually the opposite, if you know how they're written, then you know how they're pronounced and you finally have to learn their meaning. ... And then there's エイ語 the worst language on Earth
@@justcommenting5117 i learned that tea is ti and not tea on my THIRTEENTH YEAR OF STUDYING ENGLISH i learned that height and eight are different on my TENTH YEAR OF USING ONLY ENGLISH INSTEAD OF MY NATIVE english is a terrible french dialect of german
@@abarette_ nah half the europen languages write one thing but pronounce anything but da vinci worchestershire brzeczyszczykiewicz београд български what languages are easy deutsch ruskij ukrainian maybe spanish?
Brazil has the biggest diaspora of japanese descendants in the world, with most being concentrated here in São Paulo where I live. I got like 4 japanese guys in my class, with one of them being a native that has just arrived here. It's pretty interesting
Eu sou do sul do Paraná e aqui direto encontro gente que fala japonês e já morou no Japão. É muito comum. Existem muitos descendentes próximos ou japoneses que vieram para o Brasil quando criança (mas os pais são japoneses). E existem muitas praças com inspiração japonesa, nome japonês e etc. Inclusive perto da minha cidade existe outra chamada Assaí, lá a concentração é ainda maior que aqui e existe muita arquitetura e cultura japonesa, pesquise no Google, até a prefeitura é no estilo arquitetônico japonês (é claro que no fim ainda estamos no Brasil).
I love reading litterature in this language, kanjis make this art to another level and I love the way it sounds, there also are cools dialects so I would place it to Gigachad. The fact that that language has been isolated makes it having it's fundamental principles way different than what our languages (english, german, russian, spanish, french etc) actually have. I like the fact you're actually honnest when explaining why you're upset with the language and in fact your video was fun to watch. Hope you can just having fun learning it someday
Dude... he didn't even ACTUALLY SHAVE. What?! This is ludicrous and it just goes to show that Language Simp not only doesn't actually speak real true authentic AASL, he also knows absolutely nothing about anime language.
I studied Japanese in Middle School cuz of Anime and I felt like this entire video was calling out my Middle School self. It’s genuinely cringy to base your whole personality on the fact that you’re learning Japanese and I can only imagine the level of cringe Japanese people feel when someone like that tried to talk to them. Dope video as always
i feel that so much. i started learning japanese bcs i watched anime regularly (although i do also just generally enjoy learning languages and have been learning german for a few years) but i slowly stopped watching anime while keeping up with learning japanese, just not so much through anime anymore
@@arden2884That’s good. Japanese Seiyuu overly dramatize the Japanese accent so a person who learns Japanese just from anime will sound super cringe and wanting to kms
@@sinistarz0253 i mean i don’t think that using anime is necessary a bad thing when it comes to learning japanese unless it’s the only way you immerse yourself in the culture. as long as you use other media to learn the language too and keep in mind that it’s not everyday language then it’s fine.
Next language review should be for the magical language Icelandic with a gigachad rating, since it’s one of the prettiest languages ever created, and it’s one of the coolest / most modern languages, which makes it the perfect language to show off with for all that want to sound as cool as possible, and it’s easy to learn / memorize the Icelandic words, being a Germanic language, as all Germanic languages are category 1 and category 2 languages with almost only gorgeous words with great letter combinations that go well 2gether and pretty word endings, and one’s hern naturally remembers the prettier and more distinctive words faster, which makes Germanic languages the easiest languages ever, and also the easiest to read, as Germanic languages have the most organized aspect and use normal letters / the Latin alphabet which is the easiest and most logical alphabet - Esperanto is a nice language, while languages such as Japanese and other similar languages are indeed dogwater, and most Japanese words sound embarrassingly funny, with random syllables / sounds slæpt 2gether that do not go well 2gether, most Japanese words being non-pretty, and many of them have repetition of the same syllable, which indicates a poorly-constructed language, same as Korean and other similar languages, and I don’t understand why would one want to learn such languages, that aren’t pretty and that are also unnecessarily complicated with impossible characters and shapes that aren’t even a true writing system and with many tones or pitch accents or whatever, which are so complicated and don’t even sound good, when there are truly gorgeous and perfect languages like Icelandic / Norse / Dutch / Norwegian / Gothic / Danish / Welsh / Breton / Irish / Galician etc with gorgeous words and great / modern pronunciation rules that weren’t constructed at random and that actually follow the most logical patterns, just like English!
Re the grammar of languages, I don’t find the grammar of any language hard, because grammar is a necessary part of the language, as different languages are constructed differently, so what may sound right in a neutral language with very neutral word endings such as English / Norwegian / Swedish / Danish etc may not sound right in other languages with strong word endings and letter combinations etc such as Icelandic / Norse / Dutch / German / Italian etc, so languages with stronger word endings and letter combinations require more different endings to sound right, but it’s easy to get used to the patterns and to learn the word endings for each case etc, which are usually the same for each group of nouns! I don’t find a language’s grammar neither hard nor easy, and I just see it as something that’s necessary and important, without which the sentences wouldn’t sound right, so languages with more conjugations and more noun endings etc aren’t necessary harder, even tho they aren’t as easy to use as English which is the easiest language ever, but then again, no language is as easy to use as English, anyway! I am learning all the Germanic languages, so I noticed that it’s actually very easy to learn Icelandic / Norse words, for example, even tho they have more noun endings, because the words are naturally memorable and out-standing, because they are so pretty and unique, which makes them easy to memorize, so all Germanic languages are very easy to learn, because Germanic words are super gorgeous and organized, and they take way less repetitions to become part of the permanent memory, compared to the words from non-pretty languages which require a lot of repetitions, plus the grammar of Germanic languages is very logical and follows very logical patterns in general, so once one understands how the new language works and knows more thousands of words, it gets easier! So, I never worried about the grammar of a new language, as it’s very easy for me to get used to the new patterns and to memorize the word endings, even tho sometimes I don’t understand why certain words are used in certain situations, like, why is the masculine article der used with feminine nouns that are in dative in German, and why is the article for plurals the same as the article for feminine nouns, and why is the plural form of certain nouns the same as the singular one in Germanic languages, which doesn’t really make sense, so in such cases that aren’t 100% right, I am modifying the form of the noun or the article etc myself, as I am trying to make each pretty language perfect in every way, because even the prettiest languages aren’t 100% perfect in every way, so they need a few modifications, so I am having a lot of fun learning pretty words and slightly modifying some of their forms / endings when some of them aren’t as perfect as they could be! I like it when each word ending is different, because there’s a lot more diversity and variation, and it’s actually easier to learn the conjugations of verbs and the declensions of nouns etc when every form is different than it is to learn them when some of them have the same form, and one naturally tends to get used to the different patterns as one learns more and more thousands of words!
This is one of those things where, only the people who stand out are noticed, e.g. you dont notice all the vegans who aren't making a scene, so you only hear about the vegans who do, and that gives the image that all vegans are like that, the same goes for people learning Japanese.
I'll never understand the notion of "The Japanese learner community is so toxic, elitist, and cringe that I won't learn it anymore" like...just don't engage with the community then? If you truly have a passion for learning the language, you will learn it, just like any other language. Western culture has certainly ruined the image of Japanese, but that doesn't mean you should stop learning because you're afraid of being called a "weeb" because that's idiotic and childish. Learn the language, learn the pitch accents, and you'll be fine
Exactly right? I mean if he thinks the American community is annoying wait till he gets good enough to realize that the international community is even worse in many regards. But that’s why you study with actual Japanese people and give it your all, the communications and cultural differences are where the true challenges and barriers reside.
i think one of the silliest things about casual japanese is the insane amount of those extra syllables they can throw out at the end of a sentence (like yo, ne or wa) that don't really mean anything significant. Sometimes it feels like they can just randomly add ANY syllable at the end of a sentence and it would still make sense to them
Yo or Ne actually do have significant meaning. Wa on the other hand..... it's just for women to sound cutesy. Yo can be for new information you're telling someone assuming they don't know, and they'll keep that in mind. And Ne is for agreement. "Kawaiii ne" cute isn't it? It's the same as Canadians going "eh" fine weather eh.
@@block_head_steve240 It's just comical to me. And yeah, I know it's a unique language like any other languages, but I just think the westernied perception of the language now has made me hate it. Or at least find it somewhat annoying.
Not being into something because of the community is something I’ll never get. It’s the same when people hate certain games because their fanbase is toxic even though the games are really cool. I just don’t interact with the toxic people, and I’ve had a great time during my Japanese learning journey.
omg i got hyped when you mentioned my mother tongue kagoshima dialect! it reminds me that a teacher in my middle school in kagoshima encouraged us to learn english because we use syllable instead of mora. i'll show this video to all of my family and friends who is still living there and learning english. btw can you do Czech language next?
He doesn't like Czech or Polish. Meanwhile I watch de-kompozytor videos from time to time (without knowing a word of Polish) because I like the way he talks
One surprising difficulty about Japanese, especially if you are going to climb the JLPT (one of the standard test for Japanese) ladder, is that Japanese at higher levels have many “grammatical structures”that are somewhat unsystematic and not immediately obvious in their meaning and usage. Basically you need rote memorization of these sentence structures at that juncture which is kinda alien to me compared to my experience in learning English which only involves memorizing words but not so much about arbitrary sentence structures…
That test is only useful if you past the N2/N1 to get hired in a Japanese company which is actually kind of a terrible goal. Most people want to learn because of the content which requires around 10k words which is why the attrition rate is so bad it takes years to learn. The time commitment is the real difficulty.
Been living in China for 6 years, been learning Japanese through Chinese for the past month! I just stumbled upon your channel and thought you were funny haha. Good video!
I just like the language cuz they have some vocabulary taken from Portuguese, English and other languages as well, wich is pretty cool but makes the language even more Frankenstein's monster-ish
Theres a lot of stuff from chinese too. Also english is probably worse, with all the french and latin stuff we have, but yeah especially on the internet it seems like every other word is in english
I was one of the few students in my Japanese classes that didn't, and still doesn't, watch anime. I've tried, it's just not my thing. I like some Ghibli movies, of course, but...yeah. So luckily I haven't had the language 'ruined' by that. I also was never super confused on the difference between wa and ga...I think people just get so hung up on the fact that it's different and doesn't exist in their language, instead of just accepting a new concept. (nvm my explanation was dogwater, go find tuluppampam's comment lol). It's confusing to figure out how to use, for sure, but I don't think it's at the Navajo level of difficulty that people assume when they first hear of it. Kanji, however, is honestly a hurdle, and you have to really love the language to stick it out. I like Japanese culture and history and some music but because I just don't seem to connect with a lot of the pop culture, and because kanji is a chore (and not knowing a lot of kanji makes it basically impossible to read), I just haven't continued studying it. Also, at least back when I first got into Japanese media, it was so hard to find content; Japan is so stingy lol. I started out being equally interested in Korean and Japanese but eventually lost most interest in Japanese because the difficulty to access content was so annoying. I'm sure it's easier these days, but... I would study it again someday, but I'm more interested in other languages first. tl;dr Japanese isn't actually dogwater imo, you just have to avoid weeaboos lol (good luck)
I've been learning some new languages, not because i want to talk with the natives or out of respect for the tongue, but because i wanna translate my books to as many as i can to profit from every part of the globe. I've mastered the American, mexican and Brazilian language, and soon the anime language will be mine to conquer
I took a japanese class in high school because I thought the class would be filled with business-minded people wanting to work in japan for businesses like Honda and Nintendo. I was severely mistaken and I very quickly learned that I would never watch an anime so I could avoid being like those people.
I wanted to learn Japanese because of anime and games, i still do, but my main reason now is for travelling there or even living in Japan if i feel like it someday, i could also use Japanese internet and be able to talk with Japanese people that don't speak English, i also begun to study Japanese history and search more about the country's issues, culture and etc. But i certainly don't see Japan as just "ha ha anime and sushi country" now but rather, a country with a great history, entertaiment and a fascinating culture, but which has a ton of social flaws.
Pretty impressive that you were spending a voluntary high school class for something like that! Anime is ok though, like it’s just a niche/market of video entertainment. Not really better or worse than sitcoms or western animation or kollywood or whatever
Here are some sentences that are famous for breaking the hearts of Japanese language learners. 3月1日は日曜日で祝日、晴れの日でした(Sangatsu tsuitachi wa nichiyóbi de shukujitsu, hare no hi deshita.)=March 1 was a Sunday, a holiday, and a sunny day. スモモも桃も桃のうち(Sumomo mo momo mo momo no uchi)=Both plums and peaches are a type of peach.
I mean how does the first one break the hearts? the で is clearly used as a sentence connecting particle, and with that knowledge the rest is kinda obvious. The second one is euhhh... interesting haha
@itsjeboinathan3199 The character 日 is read 5 different ways in that sentence: たち*、にち、び、じつ、ひ (* technically 1日 as a compound is read as ついたち and you can't break it up, but you get the idea) Fun fact about the second one: スモモもモモもモモのうち is very famous, but it's actually not factually correct. スモモ (plums) and モモ (peaches) are in the same family but different genera, so スモモ is not a type of モモ. Still a fun tongue twister though :)
@@seana5942well, still the first one is not an issue, if you aren't just trying to grind on'yomi and are focusing on vocabulary instead. also, 1日 would be better read as いちにち, as, afaik, ついたち is just a special case and たち is not really a reading for 日.
Came from your last video, it seems your real rating was Gigachad. Seems you had to lie to not get the eyes on people being suspicious about if you had been learning Japanese. Nevertheless, Japanese is a great language. Good thing you have been learning it out!
On my last trip to Japan, and I can speak decent, friendly non-anime-Japanese, people were mega impressed. They didn't do backflips, but they were really happy to have a chat with me.
This video hits hard when you're actually studying at the same time, the particles are a pain and are often omitted when in casual conversations, so that's one upside to it, the only thing I will say is difficult, is probably memorising or at least remembering changes in a word, such as past tense, and more forms that change the interpretation of a word.
Thai could be interesting to you as well. Insane alphabet that kinda looks like the insane writings you would find in a summing cave for eldritch terrors, but the grammar is very simple. And of course, it also has tones, which is always fun. Fun fun fun..
one of the biggest problem with learning japanese is that textbook japanese is also different from daily life japanese, I heard textbooks can teach overly polite phrases and basically only written part of the language.
If understand correctly. The Japanese that people actually speaks still pulls from the polite textbook Japanese so you still need that foundation to get what people are saying.
I think that teaching formal/polite language is the first thing you learn when you are learning any language. I remember that when I was learning English, in the textbooks they always used formal language or teachers focused in just teaching that
This is something that other Japanese learners will tell you a lot, often forcefully. "DON'T USE TEXTBOOKS, THEY SUCK!! JUST WATCH ANIME TO LEARN REAL JAPANESE". Sometimes, they'll also claim that "nobody" uses Keigo or even Teineigo and thus you shouldn't learn it (this is wrong, polite speech is VERY important in Japanese - just because you can get away with beign rude as a Westerner doesn't mean it is unimportant) Of course, people don't generally talk exactly like in textbooks (especially not beginner textbooks). That's true of all languages - "real" speakers use all sorts of slang, ellipses, regionalisms, wordplay, they don't artificially constrain their vocabulary or grammar to what you happen to have learned and generally employ more variety. That's why speaking Japanese after working through Genki 1 means you'll sound stilted. But "stilted" doesn't mean wrong. What textbooks teach you isn't "wrong" Japanese, it's just incomplete - because you can't learn everything at once.
Every language is like this and I think making the transition from intermediate-level textbook speech to being able to have an actual conversation with an actual speaker of the language is one of the hardest things to do for a language learner. This shit takes years. Some people never get past it.
Honestly the biggest advantage to me, as a native english speaker and L2 french speaker, in learning japanese, is having a linguistics degree in self-directing my own learning. I screamed when you put 鬱 as I learnt that yesterday. I love how logical Japanese is in that much of this agglutinative language’s grammar is rooted in phonology, but don’t get me started on the cringe katakana english words or some of the weird alien looking kanji. Also I cannot believe you didn’t roast the hell out of the counter system that even most japanese people have trouble remembering 💀
As someone that has been learning this language for almost 10 years now.. wow. I am soo happy to see The Alfa Male Giga Chad himself give a review. And as a side note it's interesting to see someone talk about it from a noobs perspective, as a long time speaker of the language I forgot about the basics and how different it is from other languages. 10/10 IGN
3000 pages of Japanese grammar dictionary would beg to differ on the point of an easy grammar. Man, it feels easy when you just start and as you progress, you stop encountering multiple grammar entries because they don't occur in the layers of the language you consume. And I keep forgetting stuff because the grammar is really contextual and can be used as god only knows. I've been at at for 10 years or so.
Hi Brazilian half Japanese here, i didn't know there were so many Japanese speakers in Brazil tho :O. I have a lot of friends that are half japanese like me but we all dont speak japanese, only our Grandparents. We call this ''Issei, Nissei and Sansei'', Issei is the first generation that came to Brazil (I think after the WW2?), then Nissei are the children from them and Sansei the actual generation (generation Z and 90tys)
The thing about the "accentless" Kyushu dialects is that only applies to 100% unfiltered "dialect" spoken only by 90 year olds. Normal people will still use the standard pitch accent for a lot of words, but maybe more words are heiban than they are in standard Japanese. Maybe there's a region of Kyushu where they actually speak with no pitch accent at all but I haven't been there.
defiinitely the hardest pronounciations are the r sounds because it's kinda like a mixture of a British R, a soft D, and a shy L instead of Sakura, its Sakurda, instead of roku, its loku, etc
Here in Brazil we have the largest Japanese community outside of Japan, probably this is the reason why 400 thousand people speak the language, in addiction, we have some weebs (me for example) who study it xD Nice video, very funny!
Kagoshima dialect uses completly different words. Most japanese can't understand it. There's a story that back in WW2 the U.S. was able to crack to code and was listenning on the radios. But there was some random dudes from Kagoshima using Kagoshima dialect and caused the U.S. to think that we came up with a new code.
Fun Fact Brazil has the largest Japanese community in the world at around 2 million, and many Japanese people move to and from Brazil, which has resulted in large communities of Portuguese speaking Japanese people in Japan.
it depends on what ur goal is if u just want to be able to communicate, then its not that important but if u want to sound like a native, then u definitely should
it's so ridiculous. changing your pitch in words is something done automatically if you generally listen to spoken japanese a lot. this is literally something that can be said for every language. just pronounce the words like you hear them lol
No joke but I find amusing anime being a massive motivation for a lot of a learners, not saying that is not valid or anything, but of all the japanese media that we have, anime is probably the easiest thing to avoid learning Japanese because nowadays everything is pretty much subbed, of course there's the nuance of the original language but that's not much of a motivation outside of more complex works, manga, LNs and VNs makes more sense to me because they obviously going to need more literacy and are not even close on being translated as often like anime. There's the regular saying of 'Watching anime without subtitles' but even at a intermediary and maybe even advanced level you're still going to use (Japanese ones of course) them because it just makes more smooth in a lot of cases.
It's LN and WNs for me. Only, my biggest motivation to learn it is simply because it's fun and challenging. At the end of the day if you're a native English speaker you don't NEED to learn a second language typically unless you have a certain circumstance. So its a free for all on whichever one grabs your attention and keeps it.
Personally,I think you've made decent progress on your Japanese skill when you feel kanji is necessary.Though almost everyone may think kanji is unnecessary at first,the more their Japanese skills improve,the more they realize the benefits of kanji. However,if I was not a native Japanese speaker,I would not study Japanese😂 Be that as it may,I'm so glad that the number of Japanese learners are increaseing.☺️ (Sorry for my poor English! )
Your English is good! I’m half Japanese and Japanese was the first language I learned as a kid, but now I am awful at the language :( I know of the level of English in most Japanese people tho and I can say you’re very proficient(your only mistake is typo, and it’s impressive you’re using phrases like “be that as it may,” because I personally wouldn’t even think to use that in speech or even writing). As for my Japanese, I think I just need to learn vocabulary and kanji. The main struggle for me is struggling to translate from English to Japanese because ideas that I can express in English have to be simplified to work with my bad Japanese.
It's not that each kanji is one word in the language, some kanji are not really used by themselves as words and most words are made from multiple kanji and some singular kanji are multiple words or have multiple ways of being read.
Very nice video. I self-studied Japanese as a 4th language in one year (from none to JPLT N2) as a Kanji speaker. I got a bit unfamiliar with the absence of danmaku in this video. typing romaji with dvorak is awesome. Difference between wa and ga, formality etc are actually not so hard (if you can already speak classical Chinese). It would be cool if you can make a review on classical chinese. would be fun.
How could you betray us? You were supposed to destroy the weebs, not join them! But on a more serious note, I do agree with what you said about Japanese sounding nice but Western media just ruining it. It really is a shame that such a rich and neat language gets turned into "omg anime."
Honestly, I have no idea what the problem is. My Korean friend who I've not seen in years is the only one I can think of who I knew watched anime but I think I've missed something. Oh, and I remember when Akira came out some of the kids I knew talking about it. Are people LARPing as anime characters while getting their groceries now or something? Is it like the furry people? Are they more or less annoying than reality TV shows like Jersey Shore?
Yeah that true, I've never seen a language so butchered. For some westerners the whole language is tied to an art medium, which is a little embarassing.
man what a good video! i would suggest the next episode being about either italian(so you complete the 4 "big" romance languages, Rom🤢ni🤮n and c🤢t🤢l🤮n do not exist) or indonesian, objectively a simple language spoken by a fuckton of people and malay is mutually intelligible with indonesian
@@laurdinu3368 oh sorry yeah i did think that i could offend someone, i mean that i particularly would prefer a video on italian over one on romanian or catalan(or really any language that i do not have much interest, such as sicilian italian, neapolitan or sardinian)
11:40 That's slander! We use familiar language for family, friends, people we've known for 10 minutes, casual language for everyone else, polite language in very specific situations where offending someone has actual repercussions. If you ask me, that means casual language sees a lot of use.
As someone who has both first and second hand experienced the shock factor part of the language, being someone who speaks it pretty well, I can elaborate on it. Most of the time I am speaking Japanese it is online to where people can't see my face, so if I start talking to someone in Japanese without them having heard me speak English, they usually just assume I am Japanese until I clarify or am asked. When they realize I am not Japanese it usually gets a pretty good reaction. Actually being in Japan on the other hand is a bit different. Sure it depends on where you are, but most people don't give a shit that you speak Japanese, especially when it is a higher level. I noticed that my lower level friends got complimented more then I did, even one time by the same person after myself and a friend both spoke to her. He was ordering something, I just made some clarifications so she knew what he was talking about, and then she gave him the classic 日本語上手ですね compliment specifically directed at him. Another time I was asked if I was born there by an onigiri chef, but he did not use the classic 上手. It seems like you hear that less the better you are at Japanese in my experience.
高低アクセントを作ってしまってすまん
何でこうなっちゃったんだ… you've cursed all of us with this arcane concept
Bro no way 😂😂
This deadly fraud scheme deprived all Japanese learners of any goals and achievements. It's a first degree felony pursuant to 言語聴覚士法 section 12-3123
Holy shit! It's Dogen, the上手 man
Omggg he is like animeee
this is the only language I’ve seen him butchering and it’s absolutely hilarious
I spent 40 years in Osaka (a small town in Japan), so I don't appreciate your comment about me quote "butchering the language". My waifu is a Japanese native, and I've practiced with her (well she doesn't actually respond) for years.
@@LanguageSimp did you share dragon semen
@@LanguageSimpあ、おじいちゃんだからね…
@@sofialmeidah おじいちゃん？？ wwwww
The only??? Nah
"Even though a ton of people study Japanese and base their entire personalities around it, practically none of them can actually speak it." Truer words have never been spoken,
Plenty of people study it without being weebs and do speak it well
ye but 90% of the people that watch anime and are cringe are the one's who are getting the attention@@crimsonghost4107
lol
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@@made_you_mad I'm shaming language learners specifically, not just people who merely like the culture. Specifically the largely Reddit based community of Japanese learners who Language Simp mentions in the video. I'm a hypocrite because I have a very basic level of Japanese myself, but a lot of people online are using ineffective methods, such as people who believe speaking is bad and you have to spend all your time watching anime.
I love how this video is basically just dogging on most Japanese learners 💀
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Unironically it’s why I quit learning it. That and everyone going, “oh are you learning it for anime Hmmm”
golden siemens [from a flower plant they in my sides call 'len']@@Tristaxx
He's gained a lot of my respect from this video and the german streams
As a japanese learner, I appreciate it.
As someone learning Japanese but isn’t into anime and “western Japanese culture”, it’s difficult to tell friends and family I’m learning Japanese without being called a weeb lol
That sucks man. This is like when someone who is learning French start calling or assuming that it’s gay lol (LanguageSimp already explained it in a video)
@@sinistarz0253 lol I speak French and I got that one too when I was learning it
The best way to get around this is to become a weeb, so the allegations are correct 😏.
What a bunch of idiots...
As a weeb I feel bad for you since you didn't ask for this. Sorry you have to go through misunderstandings due to the stupidity of this community.
At first I was offended that from all languages in East Asia, you made a full language review of Chinese. But now that you made one about Japanese I've realized the truth.
You are reserving the most important language of that zone for last. The glorious North Korean language
Still waiting for the Timor Leste Language Review
You mean Gangnam Style language? Yeah, I can’t wait for that video already
an indonesian video would be kinda awesome, my experience with it as a foreign learner was basically my best one when involving language learning
@@elcubano8843The mozambiquean speakers of east timor have already been contemplated! The other 99% are waiting anxiously (or not) for the time to come.
@Ivy30 Oh, yes 😁!
I just started learning Japanese and have never felt more attacked by a piece of media 10/10
I already speak 3 other languages so it doesnt hurt that bad when i say i learn Japanese lol
Edit: keep it up the struggle is real with all that kanji
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Same, literally just the first 30s was horrible. But this is also why this channel is great because he rags on literally every language and those that learn it
british.
@@ikosaheadrom as a speaker of 3 languages besides Japanese, I have no idea what you're talking about
Let me know who your Waifu is!
CORRECTION: I guess Kagoshima is not the Kyushu dialect with no pitch accent. I have an inside native Japanese source telling me it is actually the Kumamoto dialect that doesn’t use pitch accent. YEEHAW
Language simp
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Nami is my waifu
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Angela Merkel is my waifu
I'm from Brazil and I decided to learn Japanese right before the pandemic started and I basically spent all my free time (which was a lot) to learn Japanese in basically 1 and a half years. I've decided to learn Japanese at the time (when I was 13/14 years old) because it was a dream of mine to study engineering in Japan. But in the end, I learned Japanese and I don't want to do engineering anymore, although I still really want to do an exchange there. I've studied by myself Japanese, which was very hard, at first because I didn't speak English, and the best dictionaries were Japanese to English, but I did. My third language was obviously English after that.
I didn't have contact with the community of people who study Japanese, because even though I like anime, my objective was strictly professional.
In the end I say that it was worth studying and learning Japanese, I think the language is beautiful and I always make a good impression when I say that I know how to speak and read Japanese.
This was the most challenging language for me so far, I've already learned English, French and now I'm learning Libras (Brazilian sign language). I love studying languages, I will probably continue studying for the rest of my life. It's very pleasurable to understand things that before I wasn't even able to conceive the meaning of.
If someone wants to learn Japanese, even if it's because of anime, it will be worth it, but don't talk like an anime character to the Japanese people, it won't work very well.
Aliás, eu adoro o canal, Language Simp. Continue com excelente trabalho. Abraços from Brasa!
you are awesome man, I first got fluent in english, and I'm in the process of learning japanese, I'm also brazillian
@@Bostologia vlw manim. Continua firme no teu objetivo, bons estudos pro cê
@@killirito vlw mano, só por curiosidade, tô com 16 anos agr c tem quantos?
@@Bostologia fiz 18 dois mês atrás.
@@killirito parabéns
as an arab the masha-allah in 11:16 was a sudden yet welcome addition
It was just perfect 😂
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As a Japanese person I can confirm Language Simp is very 日本語上手
Sorryません, weたち westerner人 canません わかるnderstand your language語。
As a Chinese learner it bugs me I technically can 'read', but neither fully pronounce nor understand that.
我不明白。
@@whohan779上手 is a Chinese word too, it also has the meaning of expert (but others too).
@@regarrzothey obviously know that. that's what they're saying.
@@rafaelbastos8713 that was so painful to read i love it
WOOOW!!! I am absolutely flabbergasted! I was convinced the first entry into the dogwater tier would be reserved for Esperanto and then this man does this! He truly does not fear the anime weebs and their ferocious toxicity. This man truly is a Gigachad Alpha Male Polyglot.
Truly the waifu of the generation
Next language review should be for the magical language Icelandic with a gigachad rating, since it’s one of the prettiest languages ever created, and it’s one of the coolest / most modern languages, which makes it the perfect language to show off with for all that want to sound as cool as possible, and it’s easy to learn / memorize the Icelandic words, being a Germanic language, as all Germanic languages are category 1 and category 2 languages with almost only gorgeous words with great letter combinations that go well 2gether and pretty word endings, and one’s hern naturally remembers the prettier and more distinctive words faster, which makes Germanic languages the easiest languages ever, and also the easiest to read, as Germanic languages have the most organized aspect and use normal letters / the Latin alphabet which is the easiest and most logical alphabet - Esperanto is a nice language, while languages such as Japanese and other similar languages are indeed dogwater, and most Japanese words sound embarrassingly funny, with random syllables / sounds slæpt 2gether that do not go well 2gether, most Japanese words being non-pretty, and many of them have repetition of the same syllable, which indicates a poorly-constructed language, same as Korean and other similar languages, and I don’t understand why would one want to learn such languages, that aren’t pretty and that are also unnecessarily complicated with impossible characters and shapes that aren’t even a true writing system and with many tones or pitch accents or whatever, which are so complicated and don’t even sound good, when there are truly gorgeous and perfect languages like Icelandic / Norse / Dutch / Norwegian / Gothic / Danish / Welsh / Breton / Irish / Galician etc with gorgeous words and great / modern pronunciation rules that weren’t constructed at random and that actually follow the most logical patterns, just like English!
Also, I am the only being reflecting terms like wf / waifu / wife etc and all other love related terms / femininity terms / superiority terms etc, and I cannot stand anime etc - another thing that makes no sense is the misuse of superiority pronouns etc, and all languages need to drop all that ‘polite’ ns, and one must use the same normal pronoun / words etc when talking to all ppl, since all ppl are just an avrg citizen made to obey the avrg citizen’s laws and rules, not some type of special / superior being that one must address in special ways, which are only meant for me the superior being / the pure being and The Leader / The God(dess) / The Queen / The Princess / The Lady / The Star etc, and, I know some Germanic languages also have this ‘polite’ ns with misused superiority pronouns, however, from what I have noticed, in Asian languages it is even more mässed up, with 3 to 6 or more ‘levels of politeness’ which is total ns, and very dskrmntïng against the younger ones, and it’s also big term misuse in general, so ppl must not misuse such terms anymore, and all should do the right thing and use the same normal pronoun when talking to all ppl, as the speakers of the Nordic languages do, Nordic languages being the most logical when it comes to pronoun use, using the same pronoun / way of addressing etc, as the same pronoun is used when talking to all ppl in languages such as Icelandic / Norse, and I think Swedish / Norwegian etc also, and English also uses the same pronoun, which makes them even better, tho all Germanic languages are pretty, even tho some of them misuse special pronouns, but it’s all up to the speaker tho, so one has the choice not to misuse the special pronouns and to only use the normal pronouns du or je / jij etc when talking to all ppl, which is what I do, and I highly recommend doing the same in all languages, as opposed to doing what most ppl do when it’s a wrøńg thing, so if one is a learner or a speaker of any of those languages, one should only use the normal pronoun such as du / je etc, and, I highly recommend learning Icelandic + Norse which are just too pretty not to know, and all other Germanic languages are also super gorgeous, so all Germanic languages are a great option, and are real fun to learn and speak and see etc!
By the way, my current levels are...
- intermediate level in Old Norse / Icelandic / Welsh
- writer level in English + native speaker level in Spanish
- upper advanced level in Dutch + advanced level in Norwegian
- mid intermediate level in German / Swedish / Portuguese / French / Italian
- beginner level in Breton / Hungarian / Gothic / Latin / Faroese / Galician / Danish / Slovene
- total beginner in Cornish / Manx / Irish / Scottish Gaelic / Aranese / Elfdalian / Gallo / Limburgish / Occitan / Luxembourgish / Catalan / East Norse / Ripuarian / Swiss German / Alemanic / Austrian German / PlatDeitsch / Greenlandic Norse / Friulian / Pretarolo / Sardinian / Neapolitan / Sicilian / Venetian / Esperanto / Walloon / Ladin / Guernsey / Norn / Burgundian / West Frisian / North Frisian / East Frisian / Yiddish / Afrikaans / Finnish / Latvian / Estonian etc (and the other languages based on Dutch / German / Norwegian / Italian / French that are referred to as ‘dialects’ but are usually a different language with different spelling etc)
(I highly recommend learning Dutch / Icelandic + Norse + Faroese / Norwegian as they are so magical, as pretty / refined / poetic as English - all other Germanic and the other pretty languages on my list are also gorgeous, so they are all a great option!)
It’s actually interesting to find out that there are way more ppl that are learning Dutch than learners of Japanese - I think Dutch has 5 million learners or so! Dutch is one of the prettiest languages ever, like English and Icelandic and Norse etc, so one naturally wants to learn a pretty language as pretty words bring a lot of joy to the eye / ear, so it makes sense that pretty languages have many learners, despite not being included in most language related videos and on most lists of recommended languages etc! But the pretty languages should always be included the most and the most recommended, as it’s the pretty languages that truly deserve the attention and that all should know of and learn and speak etc, so I cannot recommend them enough! I know about all the pretty languages (or almost all) because I have been searching for them myself, and I have seen and heard over 1.000 languages so far, and I found over 50 pretty languages, which are on my list of languages I want to learn and improve! I only started learning languages on my own about one year ago, and before that, I didn’t even know about Icelandic and Norse and Faroese etc and most other gorgeous languages myself, because most of them are almost never included or talked about, as they have very few native speakers and the ancient ones don’t have a group of speakers that use them as the main language, so most usually just include the languages with the most native speakers, so it’s mostly Asian languages that get included in videos etc, which is so annoying, like, I am literally tired of hearing about Asian languages in general, it’s really getting boring to hear about them over and over, so all should start including the pretty languages instead, including the ones with very few native speakers and no native speakers etc, which are truly fun to hear about and to see / hear / speak etc, so I always feel this joy inside when someone includes a gorgeous language such as Icelandic or Welsh or Norse etc in a video, not only because they are one of the prettiest languages ever created, but also because they are one of those very unknown languages most ppl don’t know about and that aren’t usually included or talked about, so it’s not easy to find videos where they are mentioned or spoken or recommended etc, and I don’t usually get this feeling with super pretty languages that are very known and used all the time, like English and German and Italian etc, because I hear them and I hear about them all the time, so it’s definitely a lot more emotional for me when I hear about very unknown languages like Icelandic and Norse and Gothic or Breton and Welsh and Irish etc!
Studying abroad in Osaka right now, can confirm all of my japanese friends know about and actively avoid those people who make anime their entire personality. Very funny to listen to
As they should, I casually watch anime but I'm not a cringelord about it
@@cats9994well that’s what they all say /s
Kansai Gaidai?
I envy you じゃあね！
8:14 As a Spaniard, I can confirm Japanese pronunciation comes as surprisingly straightforward for us
Italian here,same for me if not even more because my native language is basically spanish with more vowels. Hasta luego hombre.
Yeah as a Mexican native speaker I can confirm pronunciation in Japanese for us is completely dogwater
Indian here. glad to have a phonetic native language
Pronouncing Japanese is really easy for Finnish people as well
as a brazilian the syllables pronunciation is pretty much the same thing
This video is a literal love letter to the people in the Japanese language learning community. Great job on this one lol
this thing was getting so optimistic I thought it was gonna be mid or alpha tier, but mr. simp didn’t disappoint and made weaboos even more depressed by putting it in dogwater
Don't be surprised in the slightest. Japan got dogwater on a tier list and beta on another tier list by Language Simp.
I thought Chinese was gonna get the Alpha but it got mid.
Language Simp is also highly inconsistent on Russian. He awarded it the gigachad tier once but bashed on it as dogwater when talking about most underrated languages
Thank god
I think despite that I agree with him 🗿
Exactly, where it belongs 😅.
Man, as a Pole, I'd love to see you try Polish again. You know, the simple consonant pronunciation (sz, cz, ć, ś, ź, ż, dz, c), easy ortography (hundreds of language rules to remember), the simple grammar (seven cases, five genders and thousands of hours of theory), and finally - the glory of Polish grandmas.
But it's all worth it - poles will definitely give you the deed to your house and do backflips when you speak their language. Well, unless you're slavic
@@dumbalek6001 No wonder there are so many Vietnamese people there.
Preliminary rating - Gigachad
@@dumbalek6001 my friend's parents are from poland and they were impressed with me when I said 'Tak'
There's only 3 genders though
as a japanese learner who is learning japanese for reasons other than anime and waifus i can agree with the sentiments in this video, people just assume im a cringe otaku with body pillows if i mention im studying japanese and even my japanese teacher expected that to be the reason why im learning it, shit sucks ass but once you get into it and start being able to make sentences and talk to people its really fun and japanese people are always really happy that youre trying to actually be respectful of their language and culture for once. 11/10 video
Same, and I don't even like anime (and my pillows are suspiciously plain).
Anime disliker here! Lived and worked in Japan years ago and am planning to move back soon.
@@imthecrypticSays the man with an ice fairy pointing a handgun towards the guy watching it - pfp
@@hankimitsu8188 real
Wtf are you learning it then? Do you want to sell hijab in Akihabara?
I’m learning japanese right now, I can’t believe how mind blowing it is to be able to read Hirgana and even some Kanji. Like 日 for example, I recognize it as being “day” but here you used it as “sun” so I was like “hey, it must mean sun/day!”. Pretty cool stuff!
1:25 "Japan didn't make the sun, Bangladesh made the sun!!" LMAOOO
I've been studying Japanese on and off again for 3 years and everything he says about the Japanese learning community is true. It's part of the reason why I'm not where I want to be in my journey with the language. I still love the language (it is my favorite) and I will come back to it one day, but for now I'm taking a break from Japanese. I'm about to start learning Taco Language (Spanish) in a couple weeks.
Taco language has a lot of similarities to Japanese
@@sakesaurus how??
Yup, the best thing you can do as a japanese learner is to leave the japanese learning community.
I focused on reading books and watching anime, and I'm no longer 鬱
Hey, I can confirm. I just checked r/Japaneselanguage and it’s full of a bunch of pretentious idiots bro. Better to study by yourself or use italki instead.
@@sakesaurusYou mean in terms of phonetic and pronunciation? Yeah, as a Taco Language native speaker I can confirm Japanese pronunciation is dogwater level for us (easy as 123).
He spoke Japanese in American, with a French accent.
Only the Language simp can achieve such greatness.
What about Mr. Yabatan?
I so love that he makes jokes around uzbek language. With❤ from Uzbekistan🇺🇿 btw
Men ham! I recently studied Uzbek, it was a pleasure ☺
uzbek sila
@@incaseofimportantnegotiations тссссс! узбеки спят
@@polyky Sweet, I know a few words in Uzbek, one that you should totally try is Ubykh!
the main reaction you're going to get for being capable of speaking Japanese on any level is the instant relief when they realize that they don't have to try speaking English to you.
the more I know about this language, the more I wonder myself how I speak it as a native
Wa and Ga are very fun particles, because Japanese is topic prominent, while many nom eastern asian languages are subject prominent. This means that technically the word order of Japanese isn't SOV, but it is still head final, so the verb goes at the end.
And if anyone cares, I'll explain here the difference between the Wa and Ga particles.
The Wa particle marks the TOPIC of the sentence. The Ga particle marks the subject when it isn't the topic.
Now, what does it mean for something to be the TOPIC?
The topic is what the sentence is about, and it often changes little in conversations (which means that it can be dropped easily).
Wording English in a way that encapsulates this idea of topic prominence will lead to sentences like:
As for people, dogs bite them.
In Japanese you'd just say
People-wa dogs-ga bite.
Dogs is the subject, the one who does the verb. People is the Topic, so dogs biting has something to do with people. Thus you get something that only makes sense to be analysed and translated as "People are bitten by dogs".
When there's both a Wa and a Ga in a sentence, treat the noun with Wa as the subject of a passive verb, and the noun with Ga as the agent of the verb. That's very simple.
If you want your subject to be the topic of discussion, use Wa.
If you want your subject not to change the topic of discussion, use Ga.
It's a bit more finnicky than this but I believe I've written enough
I'm not a Japanese learner (yet), but this is very clear and helped me with Korean topic and subject markers. Thank you!!!
Another example to further exemplify this:
-Hey, what can you tell me about Tom?
-Tomu wa inu ga suki. (Tom likes dogs)
-Do you know anybody who likes dogs?
-Tomu ga inu wa suki (Tom likes dogs)
So in the first reply, the topic particle wa is used with Tom because he's the topic of the conversation, exploring various facets of him.
In the second reply, the subject particle ga is used with Tom because the topic of the conversation is about dog lovers, and Tom is one of the answers.
@@noseboop4354Tomu ga Inu wa suki
would mean dog likes tom and is not making sense. When you want to say somebody likes something, the thing the person likes must be the subject and you could imagine the structure of the sentence "Tomu wa inu ga suki" being like "speaking of Tom(for Tom), dogs are nice"
@@azzie2938 No it doesn't. Clearly you have only read some Genki textbooks, the sentence makes perfect sense in the way I illustrated. Show it to 100 Japanese people, not a single one of them would interpret it as 'dog likes Tom'.
I think, your dog ite example sentence would be more corrent and make more sense as "dogs-wa people-wo bite".
he actually did it i didn't think the day would come
Also, as a Japanese learner, i have never encountered such an accurate video. I am astonished.
Yeah it's a beautiful language but some of the community is pretty awful. I saw one commenter on a post that he had made on a translator sub asking people to translate some Japanese that he couldn't understand and he was trying to reassure everyone there that he really was good at Japanese and replied to someone who helped with part of it saying he was "resisting the urge to say arigato" made me regret my life choices that had led up to that moment
@@anonymous-iu4th its a great, beautifully language, I've been studying it for a few years now and I'm pretty bad at it. I often feel bad about telling people I am learning it sometimes. At my university, there is one person in particular who fits the weeb description perfectly, and even to a point of criminalty... and I couldn't be more ashamed sometimes.
You’re clearly are a very new learner. You have a very far way to go.
One of my closest friends has been teaching me Japanese. In part because he's half Japanese, partly because he's one of my Judo instructors and he wants me to appreciate the moves more by learning their names and meanings, and also because I'm going to be collaborating with a Japanese research group next year... something tells me I'll inevitably get sucked down the anime and manga rabbithole tho
join uss...
@@Ravioli638 yesss... join uss...
I've been studying for about a year now. Tutors online, and from my text book as well as a lot of listening and reading. I honestly love that I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not about your disdain towards anime folks. It made the video very funny since I just found your channel.
I laughed so hard because I've seen the Input vs Output battle play out a million times on some of the subs. I stand with a "The most effective way to learn the language is the one that keeps you coming back to it."
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@@Mr_Yeah W
I feel the reasoning for your grading 100%.
Am learning Japanese for a little over 2 years now and I barely ever mention that I do because 90% of the reactions are "oh a weeb" or "do you like these cartoons?" It's super frustrating to even find people who genuely are interested in the language without anime, so I am still not finding any partner to practive conversation with. Even after completing N3...
Imo N1 is the bare minimum to have any understanding of japanese. JLPT gives a fake scale as the tests only grade comprehension no production. Got my N1 4 years ago and could barely string two words together. Took hundreds of hours of conversation practice to get to where i can kinda call myself fluent. It's a long road and you need so many hours of interacting with the language to get anywhere... It makes sense most of the people who both care enough and have the time are otakus and obsessed with anime. Online I met some of the most degenerate racist pedophiles being absolutely cracked at japanese. The effort is just not worth for most "normal" people. I like anime too but I don't learn jp for anime i like the language.
If you really like the language i recommend watching ゆる言語学ラジオ on youtube extremely interesting linguistics discussions
Real, I'm learning Japanese for communication with distant relatives, I'm lucky enough to live with a native speaker.
I double majored in linguistics and Japanese, and I often feel like leaving it off my resume because of the questions and comments I get about it. I don't think any other language has as many negative stereo types attached to it.
Honestly so glad to see there’s other people who feel like this 😭
I have been learning for 1 year and 3/4. For me they mostly ask me if it is like Chinese, some do ask if I like anime and I think that's a completely fine question. I don't think there needs to be a problem with other people that learn Japanese and watch anime or start learning the language because of it as long as they don't just go around making fun of the language or behaving cringe-like in Japan bringing a bad example for us foreigners. I do like anime and it is part of the reason I started learning the language, but does that make me less likeable even if I have other interests in the language?
Thanks for introducing my local accent which even Japanese people don’t really know! I bet you’ll have hard time understanding the “dialect” version of it as there is no comprehensive resource to learn it for non Kagoshima residents (yet), but I guess you can learn the accent. The pronunciation of the accent is largely based on the syllabic phonology of the dialect, so I actually DO struggle recognizing moras in Tokyo accent even though I’m a “native” Japanese speaker lol. Oh btw, I don’t hate people speaking only in words from famous Anime, but tbh it’s somewhat awkwa…, well, hilarious (just think of someone always quoting from Hollywood movies + internet memes whenever they talk).
Wow i didnt know that! I wish i had taken a course on Japanese dialects in uni
Is it true that in Kagoshima you differentiate between the phonemes じ and ぢ, and between the phonemes ず and づ? I find this very interesting, it is sad that romanization follows the Tokyo pattern and generally does not differentiate /ji/ and /dji/ nor /zu/ and /dzu/.
@@camaradatrotsky5584 Do you see some type of inherent value in the distinction?
@@niwa_s Romanizing according to the Kagoshima dialect, in this case, is more coherent with Japanese writing, romanizing everything as /z/ or /j/, following the Tokyo dialect, moves it away from Hiragana and Katakana writing, in addition to requiring more research into which case it should be pronounced as /j/ or /dj/, or as /z/ or /dz/, romanizing with the Kagoshima dialect follows the etymological writing of the language, in this case.
@@camaradatrotsky5584 It'd also be missing the point of romanisation to perpetuate artificial phonetic distinctions, though. If you want the full story rather than an approximation in another script, you'll always need to interact with the original text.
Out of all potential issues you could pick at in the standard romanisation system it seems quite minor as well, tbh.
I think the language with the most shock factor to natives is swedish. Everytime i spoke swedish or got the pronunciation right they would at lest make three backflips in a row randomly combust and give me everything they own. It's crazy.
7:23 Kanji for depression looks like a person breakdancing while two others cheer over a historical version of American flag
As a Japanese, I can confirm that there is another difficulty level where you need to memorise when to use alternative sounds of Kanji.
*Just for reference, there are almost more than 2 ways of pronouncing a Kanji, and if you mix them up, it will sound very weird so be careful of that!
Having a decent vocabulary and paying attention to context (what kanji or hiragana comes before or after will tell you that)
That's only if you're focusing on learning kanji instead of learning words. If you learn the words instead, you'll have no problem figuring what pronunciation to use. It's just like "e" in english, where it's pronounced differently in "east" and "west" but no one have trouble pronouncing the 2.
similar to Chinese, I think it makes more sense to learn the words and their meaning, before learning how to write them.
With european languages it's usually the opposite, if you know how they're written, then you know how they're pronounced and you finally have to learn their meaning.
... And then there's エイ語 the worst language on Earth
@@justcommenting5117 i learned that tea is ti and not tea on my THIRTEENTH YEAR OF STUDYING ENGLISH
i learned that height and eight are different on my TENTH YEAR OF USING ONLY ENGLISH INSTEAD OF MY NATIVE
english is a terrible french dialect of german
@@abarette_ nah half the europen languages write one thing but pronounce anything but
da vinci
worchestershire
brzeczyszczykiewicz
београд
български
what languages are easy
deutsch
ruskij
ukrainian
maybe spanish?
Wow, I'm from Brazil and did not know that many people knew japanese here!
Also, a language review of Italian would be really cool
Brazil has the biggest diaspora of japanese descendants in the world, with most being concentrated here in São Paulo where I live. I got like 4 japanese guys in my class, with one of them being a native that has just arrived here. It's pretty interesting
Eu sou do sul do Paraná e aqui direto encontro gente que fala japonês e já morou no Japão. É muito comum. Existem muitos descendentes próximos ou japoneses que vieram para o Brasil quando criança (mas os pais são japoneses). E existem muitas praças com inspiração japonesa, nome japonês e etc. Inclusive perto da minha cidade existe outra chamada Assaí, lá a concentração é ainda maior que aqui e existe muita arquitetura e cultura japonesa, pesquise no Google, até a prefeitura é no estilo arquitetônico japonês (é claro que no fim ainda estamos no Brasil).
I love reading litterature in this language, kanjis make this art to another level and I love the way it sounds, there also are cools dialects so I would place it to Gigachad. The fact that that language has been isolated makes it having it's fundamental principles way different than what our languages (english, german, russian, spanish, french etc) actually have. I like the fact you're actually honnest when explaining why you're upset with the language and in fact your video was fun to watch. Hope you can just having fun learning it someday
Why bro got hot girls on the front of all his videos ☠️
2:47 I'm Uzbek and i use AEATT (All English all the time)
me too bro me too
The video we all have been waiting for centuries.
Dude... he didn't even ACTUALLY SHAVE. What?! This is ludicrous and it just goes to show that Language Simp not only doesn't actually speak real true authentic AASL, he also knows absolutely nothing about anime language.
doesn't know anything about shaving either, tragic, truly
You ain’t funny boy
I studied Japanese in Middle School cuz of Anime and I felt like this entire video was calling out my Middle School self. It’s genuinely cringy to base your whole personality on the fact that you’re learning Japanese and I can only imagine the level of cringe Japanese people feel when someone like that tried to talk to them. Dope video as always
i feel that so much. i started learning japanese bcs i watched anime regularly (although i do also just generally enjoy learning languages and have been learning german for a few years) but i slowly stopped watching anime while keeping up with learning japanese, just not so much through anime anymore
@@arden2884That’s good. Japanese Seiyuu overly dramatize the Japanese accent so a person who learns Japanese just from anime will sound super cringe and wanting to kms
@@sinistarz0253 i mean i don’t think that using anime is necessary a bad thing when it comes to learning japanese unless it’s the only way you immerse yourself in the culture. as long as you use other media to learn the language too and keep in mind that it’s not everyday language then it’s fine.
Next language review should be for the magical language Icelandic with a gigachad rating, since it’s one of the prettiest languages ever created, and it’s one of the coolest / most modern languages, which makes it the perfect language to show off with for all that want to sound as cool as possible, and it’s easy to learn / memorize the Icelandic words, being a Germanic language, as all Germanic languages are category 1 and category 2 languages with almost only gorgeous words with great letter combinations that go well 2gether and pretty word endings, and one’s hern naturally remembers the prettier and more distinctive words faster, which makes Germanic languages the easiest languages ever, and also the easiest to read, as Germanic languages have the most organized aspect and use normal letters / the Latin alphabet which is the easiest and most logical alphabet - Esperanto is a nice language, while languages such as Japanese and other similar languages are indeed dogwater, and most Japanese words sound embarrassingly funny, with random syllables / sounds slæpt 2gether that do not go well 2gether, most Japanese words being non-pretty, and many of them have repetition of the same syllable, which indicates a poorly-constructed language, same as Korean and other similar languages, and I don’t understand why would one want to learn such languages, that aren’t pretty and that are also unnecessarily complicated with impossible characters and shapes that aren’t even a true writing system and with many tones or pitch accents or whatever, which are so complicated and don’t even sound good, when there are truly gorgeous and perfect languages like Icelandic / Norse / Dutch / Norwegian / Gothic / Danish / Welsh / Breton / Irish / Galician etc with gorgeous words and great / modern pronunciation rules that weren’t constructed at random and that actually follow the most logical patterns, just like English!
Re the grammar of languages, I don’t find the grammar of any language hard, because grammar is a necessary part of the language, as different languages are constructed differently, so what may sound right in a neutral language with very neutral word endings such as English / Norwegian / Swedish / Danish etc may not sound right in other languages with strong word endings and letter combinations etc such as Icelandic / Norse / Dutch / German / Italian etc, so languages with stronger word endings and letter combinations require more different endings to sound right, but it’s easy to get used to the patterns and to learn the word endings for each case etc, which are usually the same for each group of nouns! I don’t find a language’s grammar neither hard nor easy, and I just see it as something that’s necessary and important, without which the sentences wouldn’t sound right, so languages with more conjugations and more noun endings etc aren’t necessary harder, even tho they aren’t as easy to use as English which is the easiest language ever, but then again, no language is as easy to use as English, anyway! I am learning all the Germanic languages, so I noticed that it’s actually very easy to learn Icelandic / Norse words, for example, even tho they have more noun endings, because the words are naturally memorable and out-standing, because they are so pretty and unique, which makes them easy to memorize, so all Germanic languages are very easy to learn, because Germanic words are super gorgeous and organized, and they take way less repetitions to become part of the permanent memory, compared to the words from non-pretty languages which require a lot of repetitions, plus the grammar of Germanic languages is very logical and follows very logical patterns in general, so once one understands how the new language works and knows more thousands of words, it gets easier! So, I never worried about the grammar of a new language, as it’s very easy for me to get used to the new patterns and to memorize the word endings, even tho sometimes I don’t understand why certain words are used in certain situations, like, why is the masculine article der used with feminine nouns that are in dative in German, and why is the article for plurals the same as the article for feminine nouns, and why is the plural form of certain nouns the same as the singular one in Germanic languages, which doesn’t really make sense, so in such cases that aren’t 100% right, I am modifying the form of the noun or the article etc myself, as I am trying to make each pretty language perfect in every way, because even the prettiest languages aren’t 100% perfect in every way, so they need a few modifications, so I am having a lot of fun learning pretty words and slightly modifying some of their forms / endings when some of them aren’t as perfect as they could be! I like it when each word ending is different, because there’s a lot more diversity and variation, and it’s actually easier to learn the conjugations of verbs and the declensions of nouns etc when every form is different than it is to learn them when some of them have the same form, and one naturally tends to get used to the different patterns as one learns more and more thousands of words!
This is one of those things where, only the people who stand out are noticed, e.g. you dont notice all the vegans who aren't making a scene, so you only hear about the vegans who do, and that gives the image that all vegans are like that, the same goes for people learning Japanese.
5:52 THE WAY HE SAYS
"Hee rai gueaNAa"
"Kea ta KeaA Naa"
and
"KEAN GEE"😭😭😭
Here are a few suggestions for the next review: Hungarian, Latin, Swahili, Italian, English.
Perfect video by the way!
POLISH🇵🇱
Hungarian holy ducks I'd love to see that
I'll never understand the notion of "The Japanese learner community is so toxic, elitist, and cringe that I won't learn it anymore" like...just don't engage with the community then? If you truly have a passion for learning the language, you will learn it, just like any other language. Western culture has certainly ruined the image of Japanese, but that doesn't mean you should stop learning because you're afraid of being called a "weeb" because that's idiotic and childish. Learn the language, learn the pitch accents, and you'll be fine
this.
Literally this I love learning it and I never have to interact with the weeb community
Exactly right? I mean if he thinks the American community is annoying wait till he gets good enough to realize that the international community is even worse in many regards. But that’s why you study with actual Japanese people and give it your all, the communications and cultural differences are where the true challenges and barriers reside.
I won't stop studying Japanese because i'm afraid to be called a weeb but it still sucks to be called a weeb.
I can totally agree with you on that
Weebs , stop being cringe especially online.
i think one of the silliest things about casual japanese is the insane amount of those extra syllables they can throw out at the end of a sentence (like yo, ne or wa) that don't really mean anything significant. Sometimes it feels like they can just randomly add ANY syllable at the end of a sentence and it would still make sense to them
Yo or Ne actually do have significant meaning. Wa on the other hand..... it's just for women to sound cutesy. Yo can be for new information you're telling someone assuming they don't know, and they'll keep that in mind. And Ne is for agreement. "Kawaiii ne" cute isn't it? It's the same as Canadians going "eh" fine weather eh.
@@Anoonymous420 I like saying Canadian english is closer to Japanese purely because of how identical the "eh" and ne particles are
@@Anoonymous420 Yeah I don't know, Japanese is a mess. Plus they say "ne" after every damn sentence anyways it's annoying.
@@sandeegrey5977how is it annoying? It does actually convey a different, more casual nuance
@@block_head_steve240 It's just comical to me. And yeah, I know it's a unique language like any other languages, but I just think the westernied perception of the language now has made me hate it. Or at least find it somewhat annoying.
Not being into something because of the community is something I’ll never get. It’s the same when people hate certain games because their fanbase is toxic even though the games are really cool.
I just don’t interact with the toxic people, and I’ve had a great time during my Japanese learning journey.
This aged like fine wine. (This comment aged like milk)
Came here to say the same
Wdym?
@@HollowProject He said he was learning Japanese in a video after he bashed it in this one.
@@JHorst-r2u well he isn't bashing the language, he is making fun of people who learn it
@osuplaeyurreallygood Still funny though.
omg i got hyped when you mentioned my mother tongue kagoshima dialect! it reminds me that a teacher in my middle school in kagoshima encouraged us to learn english because we use syllable instead of mora. i'll show this video to all of my family and friends who is still living there and learning english. btw can you do Czech language next?
i think he's doing Asian for now
He doesn't like Czech or Polish. Meanwhile I watch de-kompozytor videos from time to time (without knowing a word of Polish) because I like the way he talks
@@smorrow Isn't he was learning polish a while ago?
One surprising difficulty about Japanese, especially if you are going to climb the JLPT (one of the standard test for Japanese) ladder, is that Japanese at higher levels have many “grammatical structures”that are somewhat unsystematic and not immediately obvious in their meaning and usage. Basically you need rote memorization of these sentence structures at that juncture which is kinda alien to me compared to my experience in learning English which only involves memorizing words but not so much about arbitrary sentence structures…
That test is only useful if you past the N2/N1 to get hired in a Japanese company which is actually kind of a terrible goal. Most people want to learn because of the content which requires around 10k words which is why the attrition rate is so bad it takes years to learn. The time commitment is the real difficulty.
Keep making them, I really love them (along your other content, of course).
Thumbnail lady is anzai rara
Please search it😊
its definitely corn
Thanks
Been living in China for 6 years, been learning Japanese through Chinese for the past month! I just stumbled upon your channel and thought you were funny haha. Good video!
I just like the language cuz they have some vocabulary taken from Portuguese, English and other languages as well, wich is pretty cool but makes the language even more Frankenstein's monster-ish
Frankenstein's monster*
Theres a lot of stuff from chinese too.
Also english is probably worse, with all the french and latin stuff we have, but yeah especially on the internet it seems like every other word is in english
most is from chinese lol@@a-ramenartist9734
wow I didn't know that. Your description of Japanese's borrowing from Portuguese made me think of Swahili.
Yes I confirm they took words from our vocabuary.
You should add a complete tierlist at the end of these videos where we can see how you rated the previous languages
The part that I dislike most about learning Japanese is that because of Kanji I can't try to immerse myself on internet/forums like I did for English.
You still can. It just takes longer.
I was one of the few students in my Japanese classes that didn't, and still doesn't, watch anime. I've tried, it's just not my thing. I like some Ghibli movies, of course, but...yeah. So luckily I haven't had the language 'ruined' by that. I also was never super confused on the difference between wa and ga...I think people just get so hung up on the fact that it's different and doesn't exist in their language, instead of just accepting a new concept. (nvm my explanation was dogwater, go find tuluppampam's comment lol). It's confusing to figure out how to use, for sure, but I don't think it's at the Navajo level of difficulty that people assume when they first hear of it. Kanji, however, is honestly a hurdle, and you have to really love the language to stick it out. I like Japanese culture and history and some music but because I just don't seem to connect with a lot of the pop culture, and because kanji is a chore (and not knowing a lot of kanji makes it basically impossible to read), I just haven't continued studying it. Also, at least back when I first got into Japanese media, it was so hard to find content; Japan is so stingy lol. I started out being equally interested in Korean and Japanese but eventually lost most interest in Japanese because the difficulty to access content was so annoying. I'm sure it's easier these days, but...
I would study it again someday, but I'm more interested in other languages first.
tl;dr Japanese isn't actually dogwater imo, you just have to avoid weeaboos lol (good luck)
been waiting for this especially since i'm learning now. thanks so much
I've been learning some new languages, not because i want to talk with the natives or out of respect for the tongue, but because i wanna translate my books to as many as i can to profit from every part of the globe. I've mastered the American, mexican and Brazilian language, and soon the anime language will be mine to conquer
I took a japanese class in high school because I thought the class would be filled with business-minded people wanting to work in japan for businesses like Honda and Nintendo. I was severely mistaken and I very quickly learned that I would never watch an anime so I could avoid being like those people.
Good job.
They have ruined the language for everyone.
I feel embarrassed that those kind of people represent the anime community, really
I wanted to learn Japanese because of anime and games, i still do, but my main reason now is for travelling there or even living in Japan if i feel like it someday, i could also use Japanese internet and be able to talk with Japanese people that don't speak English, i also begun to study Japanese history and search more about the country's issues, culture and etc. But i certainly don't see Japan as just "ha ha anime and sushi country" now but rather, a country with a great history, entertaiment and a fascinating culture, but which has a ton of social flaws.
Pretty impressive that you were spending a voluntary high school class for something like that!
Anime is ok though, like it’s just a niche/market of video entertainment. Not really better or worse than sitcoms or western animation or kollywood or whatever
Here are some sentences that are famous for breaking the hearts of Japanese language learners.
3月1日は日曜日で祝日、晴れの日でした(Sangatsu tsuitachi wa nichiyóbi de shukujitsu, hare no hi deshita.)=March 1 was a Sunday, a holiday, and a sunny day.
スモモも桃も桃のうち(Sumomo mo momo mo momo no uchi)=Both plums and peaches are a type of peach.
I mean how does the first one break the hearts? the で is clearly used as a sentence connecting particle, and with that knowledge the rest is kinda obvious. The second one is euhhh... interesting haha
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The character 日 is read 5 different ways in that sentence: たち*、にち、び、じつ、ひ
(* technically 1日 as a compound is read as ついたち and you can't break it up, but you get the idea)
Fun fact about the second one: スモモもモモもモモのうち is very famous, but it's actually not factually correct. スモモ (plums) and モモ (peaches) are in the same family but different genera, so スモモ is not a type of モモ. Still a fun tongue twister though :)
@@seana5942well, still the first one is not an issue, if you aren't just trying to grind on'yomi and are focusing on vocabulary instead.
also, 1日 would be better read as いちにち, as, afaik, ついたち is just a special case and たち is not really a reading for 日.
@@laxminarayanbhandari855 the special case for reading it as ついたち is when it is a calender date, which is precisely the case in the example.
That second one make my brain hurt, I wonder if its like reading "real eyes, realize"
Came from your last video, it seems your real rating was Gigachad. Seems you had to lie to not get the eyes on people being suspicious about if you had been learning Japanese. Nevertheless, Japanese is a great language. Good thing you have been learning it out!
On my last trip to Japan, and I can speak decent, friendly non-anime-Japanese, people were mega impressed. They didn't do backflips, but they were really happy to have a chat with me.
This video hits hard when you're actually studying at the same time, the particles are a pain and are often omitted when in casual conversations, so that's one upside to it, the only thing I will say is difficult, is probably memorising or at least remembering changes in a word, such as past tense, and more forms that change the interpretation of a word.
For me, it's the stupid kanji, heard you need more than 1000 to become fluent!
Thai could be interesting to you as well. Insane alphabet that kinda looks like the insane writings you would find in a summing cave for eldritch terrors, but the grammar is very simple. And of course, it also has tones, which is always fun. Fun fun fun..
one of the biggest problem with learning japanese is that textbook japanese is also different from daily life japanese, I heard textbooks can teach overly polite phrases and basically only written part of the language.
If understand correctly. The Japanese that people actually speaks still pulls from the polite textbook Japanese so you still need that foundation to get what people are saying.
I think that teaching formal/polite language is the first thing you learn when you are learning any language. I remember that when I was learning English, in the textbooks they always used formal language or teachers focused in just teaching that
This is something that other Japanese learners will tell you a lot, often forcefully. "DON'T USE TEXTBOOKS, THEY SUCK!! JUST WATCH ANIME TO LEARN REAL JAPANESE". Sometimes, they'll also claim that "nobody" uses Keigo or even Teineigo and thus you shouldn't learn it (this is wrong, polite speech is VERY important in Japanese - just because you can get away with beign rude as a Westerner doesn't mean it is unimportant)
Of course, people don't generally talk exactly like in textbooks (especially not beginner textbooks). That's true of all languages - "real" speakers use all sorts of slang, ellipses, regionalisms, wordplay, they don't artificially constrain their vocabulary or grammar to what you happen to have learned and generally employ more variety. That's why speaking Japanese after working through Genki 1 means you'll sound stilted.
But "stilted" doesn't mean wrong. What textbooks teach you isn't "wrong" Japanese, it's just incomplete - because you can't learn everything at once.
Every language is like this and I think making the transition from intermediate-level textbook speech to being able to have an actual conversation with an actual speaker of the language is one of the hardest things to do for a language learner. This shit takes years. Some people never get past it.
Genki textbooks are garbage
Honestly the biggest advantage to me, as a native english speaker and L2 french speaker, in learning japanese, is having a linguistics degree in self-directing my own learning. I screamed when you put 鬱 as I learnt that yesterday. I love how logical Japanese is in that much of this agglutinative language’s grammar is rooted in phonology, but don’t get me started on the cringe katakana english words or some of the weird alien looking kanji. Also I cannot believe you didn’t roast the hell out of the counter system that even most japanese people have trouble remembering 💀
As someone that has been learning this language for almost 10 years now.. wow. I am soo happy to see The Alfa Male Giga Chad himself give a review. And as a side note it's interesting to see someone talk about it from a noobs perspective, as a long time speaker of the language I forgot about the basics and how different it is from other languages. 10/10 IGN
You describing Nami as "very generous proportioned" was hilarious. Good one lmao
Love the vid! Can you do italian next?
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Great vid, as always 😁. Could you do Italian and Arabic next? Currently struggling with them
bruh im maltese i technically have to deal with both of those monstrosities everyday
up italian❤🤌
3000 pages of Japanese grammar dictionary would beg to differ on the point of an easy grammar. Man, it feels easy when you just start and as you progress, you stop encountering multiple grammar entries because they don't occur in the layers of the language you consume. And I keep forgetting stuff because the grammar is really contextual and can be used as god only knows. I've been at at for 10 years or so.
And ya butchered it for real this time, but I'm not mad, I love you
10 years? thats actually pathetic
@@pnk-q9w thanks bro
I know people who do ajatt who become basically fluent in 2 years, 10 years is way too long.
Hi Brazilian half Japanese here, i didn't know there were so many Japanese speakers in Brazil tho :O. I have a lot of friends that are half japanese like me but we all dont speak japanese, only our Grandparents.
We call this ''Issei, Nissei and Sansei'', Issei is the first generation that came to Brazil (I think after the WW2?), then Nissei are the children from them and Sansei the actual generation (generation Z and 90tys)
Hey, Language Simp, please upload more shorts, I love your shorts ❤🎉
So you rated it bad because people who don't speak Japanese ruined Japanese?
Logic☠
The thing about the "accentless" Kyushu dialects is that only applies to 100% unfiltered "dialect" spoken only by 90 year olds. Normal people will still use the standard pitch accent for a lot of words, but maybe more words are heiban than they are in standard Japanese. Maybe there's a region of Kyushu where they actually speak with no pitch accent at all but I haven't been there.
defiinitely the hardest pronounciations are the r sounds because it's kinda like a mixture of a British R, a soft D, and a shy L instead of Sakura, its Sakurda, instead of roku, its loku, etc
Here in Brazil we have the largest Japanese community outside of Japan, probably this is the reason why 400 thousand people speak the language, in addiction, we have some weebs (me for example) who study it xD
Nice video, very funny!
Nobody:
Russians picking their first language to learn:
True true 😅
....правда..
アジア人として、シムプちゃんを完全に正しいと認めます！🔥🔥🔥
18782 + 18782は？
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Kagoshima dialect uses completly different words. Most japanese can't understand it.
There's a story that back in WW2 the U.S. was able to crack to code and was listenning on the radios. But there was some random dudes from Kagoshima using Kagoshima dialect and caused the U.S. to think that we came up with a new code.
Lol
Fun Fact Brazil has the largest Japanese community in the world at around 2 million, and many Japanese people move to and from Brazil, which has resulted in large communities of Portuguese speaking Japanese people in Japan.
That 15 seconds of him throwing shade on Matt vs Japan was absolute GOLD lmao
Fun fact. In Brazil, some people thought it sounded nice and decided to name their daughters Sayonara!
Pitch accent is such a meme, I had literally never even heard of this concept before Dogen and my Japanese friend told me it was a waste of time.
Pitch accent isnt important
it depends on what ur goal is
if u just want to be able to communicate, then its not that important
but if u want to sound like a native, then u definitely should
it's so ridiculous. changing your pitch in words is something done automatically if you generally listen to spoken japanese a lot. this is literally something that can be said for every language. just pronounce the words like you hear them lol
@@tutterthemouse152 Every language has a pitch accent.
@@user-cdf9fk2rqaI second what you just said
This aged well...
I always treat CH in “ich” as kind of a ‘Kh’ sound.
hello! you made a mistake! In the beginning, you accidentally said 'de'... it's 'desu' without the "u", so... 'des'...
No joke but I find amusing anime being a massive motivation for a lot of a learners, not saying that is not valid or anything, but of all the japanese media that we have, anime is probably the easiest thing to avoid learning Japanese because nowadays everything is pretty much subbed, of course there's the nuance of the original language but that's not much of a motivation outside of more complex works, manga, LNs and VNs makes more sense to me because they obviously going to need more literacy and are not even close on being translated as often like anime. There's the regular saying of 'Watching anime without subtitles' but even at a intermediary and maybe even advanced level you're still going to use (Japanese ones of course) them because it just makes more smooth in a lot of cases.
In my case I’m more interested in VNs and making Japanese friends, but I guess anyone can use whatever motivation they want to learn Japanese.
It's LN and WNs for me. Only, my biggest motivation to learn it is simply because it's fun and challenging. At the end of the day if you're a native English speaker you don't NEED to learn a second language typically unless you have a certain circumstance. So its a free for all on whichever one grabs your attention and keeps it.
Personally,I think you've made decent progress on your Japanese skill when you feel kanji is necessary.Though almost everyone may think kanji is unnecessary at first,the more their Japanese skills improve,the more they realize the benefits of kanji.
However,if I was not a native Japanese speaker,I would not study Japanese😂
Be that as it may,I'm so glad that the number of Japanese learners are increaseing.☺️
(Sorry for my poor English! )
Your English is good! I’m half Japanese and Japanese was the first language I learned as a kid, but now I am awful at the language :(
I know of the level of English in most Japanese people tho and I can say you’re very proficient(your only mistake is typo, and it’s impressive you’re using phrases like “be that as it may,” because I personally wouldn’t even think to use that in speech or even writing).
As for my Japanese, I think I just need to learn vocabulary and kanji. The main struggle for me is struggling to translate from English to Japanese because ideas that I can express in English have to be simplified to work with my bad Japanese.
yo you should totally do a polish review. i love these videos!
It's not that each kanji is one word in the language, some kanji are not really used by themselves as words and most words are made from multiple kanji and some singular kanji are multiple words or have multiple ways of being read.
Very nice video. I self-studied Japanese as a 4th language in one year (from none to JPLT N2) as a Kanji speaker. I got a bit unfamiliar with the absence of danmaku in this video. typing romaji with dvorak is awesome. Difference between wa and ga, formality etc are actually not so hard (if you can already speak classical Chinese). It would be cool if you can make a review on classical chinese. would be fun.
How could you betray us?
You were supposed to destroy the weebs, not join them!
But on a more serious note, I do agree with what you said about Japanese sounding nice but Western media just ruining it. It really is a shame that such a rich and neat language gets turned into "omg anime."
Honestly, I have no idea what the problem is. My Korean friend who I've not seen in years is the only one I can think of who I knew watched anime but I think I've missed something. Oh, and I remember when Akira came out some of the kids I knew talking about it. Are people LARPing as anime characters while getting their groceries now or something? Is it like the furry people? Are they more or less annoying than reality TV shows like Jersey Shore?
Yeah that true, I've never seen a language so butchered. For some westerners the whole language is tied to an art medium, which is a little embarassing.
man what a good video! i would suggest the next episode being about either italian(so you complete the 4 "big" romance languages, Rom🤢ni🤮n and c🤢t🤢l🤮n do not exist) or indonesian, objectively a simple language spoken by a fuckton of people and malay is mutually intelligible with indonesian
Wdym romanian do not exist?
@@laurdinu3368 oh sorry yeah i did think that i could offend someone, i mean that i particularly would prefer a video on italian over one on romanian or catalan(or really any language that i do not have much interest, such as sicilian italian, neapolitan or sardinian)
romanian is a language for men not for pasta loving femboys
don't shit on my boy Romanian
Nahhh what did Catalonia and Romania do to deserve this
11:40 That's slander! We use familiar language for family, friends, people we've known for 10 minutes, casual language for everyone else, polite language in very specific situations where offending someone has actual repercussions. If you ask me, that means casual language sees a lot of use.
this is one of the only channels that makes me laugh out loud. good job dude
As someone who has both first and second hand experienced the shock factor part of the language, being someone who speaks it pretty well, I can elaborate on it. Most of the time I am speaking Japanese it is online to where people can't see my face, so if I start talking to someone in Japanese without them having heard me speak English, they usually just assume I am Japanese until I clarify or am asked. When they realize I am not Japanese it usually gets a pretty good reaction. Actually being in Japan on the other hand is a bit different. Sure it depends on where you are, but most people don't give a shit that you speak Japanese, especially when it is a higher level. I noticed that my lower level friends got complimented more then I did, even one time by the same person after myself and a friend both spoke to her. He was ordering something, I just made some clarifications so she knew what he was talking about, and then she gave him the classic 日本語上手ですね compliment specifically directed at him. Another time I was asked if I was born there by an onigiri chef, but he did not use the classic 上手. It seems like you hear that less the better you are at Japanese in my experience.