Why would Palestinians want a return to 1948?
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2024
- The chant "We don't want no two state, we want '48" rejects the two-state solution and harks back to a time before the state of Israel existed.But why?
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And the Romans renamed it specifically to insult the Jews.
Facts
Who said
@@dhwjnehenethe romans
W Adolf and Romans
Based Romans
My dumbass thought they wanted 46 more states and not js 2 states 💀
😂😂
Same
Lol
United States of Palestine😂
@@WorldPeace-NoWars idk bout that one my brother 💀
When it was named palastina Islam didn’t even exist yet. It was named that to insult the Jews of the land. Because it was Jewish land.
We don't actually have definitive proof on whose land it is, but we know that Palestinians were living on a large chunk of it until Israel began what became it's routine displacement and killing of Palestinians since 1948 when they committed Nakba.
@@StealthGunRunner bro that was 70 years ago
I’m talking 2000 years ago and yes we do know it’s written in history
Catch up
Islam didn't exist but that jewish states people convert to islam and became muslims.....that does not mean that the jews who are not from there automatically get the land
@@StealthGunRunneractually with every historical source (top of my head, book of Maccabees, Roman scripture, Persian writings, thousands of archaeological findings in the land), the Jews governed and ruled the land
@@StealthGunRunner don't attack Israel and you'll be fine :)
Except that "Palestine" has never been a nation state.
That fact was already pointed out by the speaker
1947-1949
So heartwarming that the protesters want Britain back 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
This deserves more likes, here's one more bro
At least the British didn't commit a genocide.
I think they would accept anyone but jews.
@@switch12345678well...
RULE BRITANIA BRITANIA RULE THE WAVES
“WE WANT ‘48!”
Oooooh. You want to be ruled by the British. Very intelligent of you!
Better Britain than Israel.
@@Hinestyler2 You clearly know nothing about that time period if you think Britain back then was better than Israel today.
@@dikastederook6380 It was better for the USA not to have Israel around
Palestinians have legitmate grievances. They were forced out of their homes and off of their land at the point of a gun. Their property was given to new colonizers, all the millions of Jews leaving Europe for Israel.
The situation over there is an ethnic conflict. The Palestinians have been badly mistreated and
are facing eradication through brutal ethnic cleansing.
@chershire1871 I don't know what that has to do with anything? I also don't have Tik Tok lol.
Israel has been awful for the USA. If it stops existing the USA will be better off. Aside from that, I don't care what happens over there.
I had my fill of the middle east and don't wanna go back.
And these were *college students* demanding justice for *Hamas* of all things!!
Nonetheless genocide is never okay and that’s what the majority of people are protesting.
Agreed. Though, I don’t think what is happening is a genocide.
@@todayunpackedat what point does the mass slaughter of civilians become genocide?
Notice how ofc the account didnt answer, because they dont actually care to dicuss anything. I appreciate all the work youve done in the comments @dungoneer710 - free palestine!
@Dungeoneer710 You talking since October 7th because October 7th to now is really low for a "geoncide". The bombing of Hiroshima and nagasaki had more people dying but no one called it a genocide.
@andreahumada5103 the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would at the very least be considered a massive war crime in the modern era. This is the problem. Israel and Israel supporters think this is still the 1940s.
This is my problem with these protest. They are involving themselves in a complex situation they know nothing about. They are allowing themselves to be manipulated and used.
But that pretty much can go for most humans on planet Earth😂
Yep that’s my issue with it too. Why are they not focusing on the kitchen table issues in their own backyard? Cost of living? Groceries? Healthcare? Did they just forget?
@@divergentthg7925But are most people on the planet marching around on the other side of the fucking world protesting and shutting down college campuses? For something that has absolutely nothing to do with them ? No. Absolutely not
@@thatexcalifornian6124You can focus on both.
Dude, how is ethnic cleansing a complex issue? The issue is not complicated to understand. It’s the SOLUTION that’s complicated.
Stalin used to call them “useful idiots”
They’re called democrats in the u.s
Stalin made antisemitism illegal.
Stalin was a jew, or at very best jew-loving communist
He never did, not sure where you get that from
Hamas does too.
wherever islam goes, blood flows.
Anne frank was hiding from muzies😂
Wild how jew are the ones spillin bloof lmfao
So true.
@@Cuzzo317 maybe the islamic shouldnt have started a war they can't win then. and tbh... if they didnt try to end the jews for over 1400 years, this wouldnt be happening little ignorant.
@@Cuzzo317 well islam went first, you are kinda proving my point lol
The state of Palestine never existed.
Ok but the arab person was here and got expulced from their home
@@henryclothetr6870 yeah, its sad to see that the British took the Arabs and moved them, then took the remaining European Jews and pulled them from their land
If one were to test their DNA one would find that their ancestry goes back into Israel thousands of years before the first archaeological evidence of Judaism (or Judaisms) in the region. Basic science.
@@holynokia6030 never lets the brits decide
So you admit the two state solution was a lie.
Anyways who cares they should have a state and they have just never been allowed to.
This is what happens when people only care about slogans and have no grasp of the actual history of what they are protesting.
Sadly this is most people's depth of knowledge. They get all their facts from bumper stickers.
No, this is what happens when you get bogged down by specifics when analyzing a slogan.
@@miguellabordaburnett3617 Yeah, not everybody is the same but to have no knowledge of what you fight for is "Spupid" Hence he is correct. They lack maturity and common sense of a normal individual.
@@miguellabordaburnett3617 I'm not saying people can't have different opinions or that mine should be the only one. I'm saying people don't even look into the details of their argument and don't construct in depth rebuttals. They just spout 2 sentenced and get upset.
HASBARA BS!!!. The Romans got it from the Greeks.
The term "Palestine" appeared in the 5th century BC
when the ancient Greek historian Herodotuswrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories. Herodotus applied the term to both the coastal and the inland regions such as the Judean mountainsand the Jordan Rift Valley. Later Greek writers such as Aristotle, Polemon and Pausaniasalso used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandriaand Josephus.
-And actually the origin of the word dates back to “1150 BC: Medinet Habu (temple): records a people called the P-r-s-t (conventionally Peleset) among those who fought against Egypt in Ramesses III's
reign.”
And when the Romans conquered the kingdom of Judea in 63 BCE, islam didn't even exist. 63 BCE is 633 years before the birth of prophet Muhammed.
All the Muslims claiming "Palestine" is hilarious.
Before the Jews existed, the philistinians lived there 😂. What's your argument 😂
By that logic the United States of America should be owned by the Scandinavian Vikings
@@lejs1974 That spelling is diabolical my guy
@@airplanedude3103 My guy, it was just a forgotten comma. Ain't that deep.
@@airplanedude3103”Philistine” is another term to some use to refer to the region of the world called “Palestine,” originating from the group of people called the “Philistines” who settled in the region back in the 12th Century BCE. Their country/civilization was called Philistia, and the Greeks called the state Palestine, which was a diverse state with Philistines, Israelites, and other ethnic groups. There’s nothing wrong with his spelling, you just apparently don’t read much to have known that it’s a legitimate term used more often in the East.
The romans named it Syria Palestina as an insult to the Jewish people.
This just proves the Intelligence of these Pro Palestine Protestors
You mean lack of. Don't think they have any
@@Donavan37 tell me why you like ethnic cleansing
You're also falling for propaganda but just for the other side. For 1300 years the land of Palestine was Arab majority. Just because they didn’t have a state didn’t mean they were less independent than now. It’s just this was before the British had the idea that Muslims or Arabs couldn’t live in one state together after WW1 and divided them with nationalism.
@@themousegaming2191 yeah i know history actually
Give the Holy Land back to the caveman. Enough with the 'This land is mine' schtick.
Pretty much Palestine never existed as an independent state.
Neither ISRAEL.
@@sergiocorrea63except it does. Same can't be said for Palestine. Might want to see what the founders of the PLO have to say about it. They openly acknowledge that the Palestinian people don't exist and only took the name because the Jews used it.
@@sergiocorrea63but Judea did & was named after the Jews. Prior to that Canaan
Genesis 32:24-30
Then Jacob (ISRAEL) was left alone; and a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day. (25)Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip was out of joint as He wrestled with him. (26) And He said, “Let Me go, for the day breaks.”
But he said, “I will not let You go unless You bless me!”
(27) So He said to him, “What is your name?”
He said, “Jacob.”
(28)And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.”
(29) Then Jacob asked, saying, “Tell me Your name, I pray.”
And He said, “Why is it that you ask about My name?” And He blessed him there.
(30) So Jacob called the name of the place [j]Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
Genesis 33:17 "And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him a house, and made booths for his cattle And Jacob came to Shalem, a city of Shechem, which is in the land of Canaan, when he came from Padan-aram; and pitched his tent before the city. And he bought a parcel of a field, where he had spread his tent, at the hand of the children of Hamor, Shechem's father for a hundred pieces of money. And he erected there an altar, and called it El-elohe-Israel."
Genesis 33: 17-20
Its a wonderful world we live in when people chant for an end to genocide by promoting genocide.
Exactly.
Protesting "illegal occupation" through their own illegal occupation.....
Excuse me but who do the Palestinians want to genocide seems to me like the Zionists are the sole proprietars
They are now illegally occupying buildings here in New Orleans. Yeah we get the lowest common denominator a lot😢
The meaning of genocide lost its meaning, genocide is when people intentionally try to kill innocent people which is exactly what hamas does... While israel Civilian To Hamas Terrorist raito is way better than any other war between two countries in the middle east. Go back to school buddy...
Moral of the story, these protesters don’t have a fucking clue.
I think Israel should take it all back... It belongs to them, they have given and given... Time to take it all back... Go Israel.
Chanting is a lot more exciting than reading books
This should be made into a t-shirt. 👍
Genius. 🍻🤘🏼
I’m Glad I enjoy books
This generation loves jumping on a bandwagon they saw on Tik Tok and thought was cool. It's too bad they haven't actually looked into the beliefs of the ppl they're siding with, tho.
The state of Palestine in 48 was never a thing anyway.
League made sure of that
I'd be surprised if any of them could even point Palestine out on an unlabeled map.
MMDelta9
Probably even on a labeled one.
🤡 🧟♀️🏳️🌈🧟♂️: *_What's a map?_*
@@BabysGamesRBLX I'd be more surprised if you could do it without Google's help.
@MMDelta9
All of your locations are not accurate.
Not surprised at all.
@@BabysGamesRBLX Your directions are incorrect. To the left *is* the Mediterranean Sea. Gaza is the ancient city that has long belonged to the Hebrews. In more recent years, foreigners came in the 1960's to do construction work, and then stayed. Mamy who had been there for generations fled or were nixxed out.
Palestine isn't supposed to be a independent country it should be united with the other arabs the reason they split was because of colonisation
Jesus is king 👑 and he will return and he will say one word and it will be done. God bless you all.
Jesus is dead and God isn't real. If he was. Most modern "christians" would be first in line into hell anyway
No
If jesus is king he wouldn’t burn palestinian christians alive
@@Moonisok12yes
@@Moonisok12I support Palestine btw
Kids this is why we should pay attention in history classes
I completely agree. To be fair I don’t recall ever learning much about the Middle East specifically in the context of Israel or Palestine. The majority of the time my school’s history courses would mainly talk about America and Europe, and I don’t even think the names Israel or Palestine were ever mentioned. This is not to justify willful ignorance of the history behind the very thing you’re protesting. That’s just embarrassing…
@@mareejoy6113 I spent a whole semester focused on the Arab Israeli Conflict as a Junior in Highschool, so its not unheard of. However, I was an IB student (similar to AP), so its isn't standard fair to dive into it.
Yea the ones that told you that Israel always existed and never mentioned Palestine! Stop the bullshit
@@amgadmedhat6211 What an absurd straw man...... Every history class Ive ever taken has correctly identified that Israel was founded in 1948, which is when it was founded. This was due to a UN charter which handed a small portion of the British Mandate in Palestine to establish the state of Israel, leaving the rest to a Turkish ethnic group that we now call Palestinians. Before the British Mandate in Palestine, it was "South Syria" under the Ottoman Empire. Before that, the territory was controlled by Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, and yes even Jews. However, there was never a sovereign Palestine. We can go all the way back to the Canaanites in the Bronze Age, and still, no sovereign Palestine.
Right nah its not that its the fact that they came from centeal Europe and are not natives of that land is the issue,i mean they got no right to live there by kicking out the people already living there 🤷@@thenewbohemian5779
“We want it back to ‘48!”
Britain boutta be hella happy with this one
Turn Jerusalem into a UNESCO site where all cultures are able (and required) to worhsip in peace. SIMPLE. FUCKING. ANSWER.
Even pro Palestinians never say that there was an official state of Palestine, but the land was known as Palestine since at least the 1800s.
By helping overthrow the Ottoman Empire, the Palestinian Arabs were promised independence, but were placed under a British mandate until 1948.
Regardless of whether or not there was ever an official state of Palestine, Palestinians have the right to return to their homeland and rule themselves autonomously.
Sure. They have the right to space, Israel has the right to space. Palestinians have the right to negotiate their space and every negotiation offers them more than it offers Israel. Every negotiation results in either a direct military attack on Israel or a terror based intifada.
Palestinians deserved space, but they’ve repeatedly lost space trying to annihilate Israel entirely, because that’s the only solution they want.
If you lose a war you start, you are not a victim of anything but your own hatred.
The repeated calls for peace and space for Palestine never take into account that they don’t want peace. They want to repeat October 7th until Israel is gone.
The 1800s? Try 12th century BCE. Archaic versions of the name Palestine, e.g. Peleset and Palashtu, date back to the bronze age collapse.
F*cken do they though? It was historically Jewish land before Bing conquered by Romans and eventually the Ottomans. If the Jews aren't entitled to thier traditional lands you can f*ck off with all the traditional lands of native people of every other nation.
Israelis have been there for centuries, muslims invaded in 7th century.
@@ttttttttttttttttist ancient Israelites =/= “Israelis”.
Palestinians are partly descended from canaanites, who were there long before the rise of Judaism.
Never was a Palestine. It was Roman Emperor Hadrian who called Israel Palestine after he defeated the last of the Jewish rebels just to mock and humiliate the Jews.
Hadrian, also a builder of walls...
There was never Israel. so STFU
Hey guess why the jews were being mocked and humiliated? Being assholes gets that treatment
Probably shouldn't have rebelled then, eh?
@@tesladrew2608 I don't think everybody is willing to be like you
The protesters are so ignorant its sickening
@@kfchoesmad4180 what a troll 😂😂😂 if everyone who comments is Jewish then I guess you'd be too. I crack myself up
@@kfchoesmad4180 You just proved the original posters point. Pure, unadulterated ignorance.
This is definitely not being started by random protestors.
Just because you don't care about people dying by Europeans, claiming that they own a land that doesn't belong to them from over 2000 years just shows your blatant ignorance
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Hmmm used to claim to hate nazis but they act just like them
I love the fact that they carry signs saying Jihad for Victory or Martyrdom. Then yell at the cops "You don't need guns!" They don't even know what a Jihad is, and they are promoting it!
Why would Americans even be involved with that nonsense?
Young people who have no real struggles in life pretending to be part of a movement to cosplay victimhood
Social justice warriors
Luxury beliefs
Because they are paid and they want so bad to a part of something
Because Palestine didn't tax them money. But "israel" does, and not for good reasons
Israel has never had it easy
There isnt even a official state of Palestie..
Palestine got its name from the Romans . They changed it from Judea in order to seperate the land from the people . Who were the Jews. So if we want to go back in time the Jews were the first Palestinians .
That supposedly gives them every right to occupy, bomb and terrorise Palestinian?
@@yourtypicalnoob5067An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
@@yourtypicalnoob5067chill man, lol he’s not saying that he’s just saying furthering the view that there was no Palestinian state to disprove the whole “we want our land back” but if you wanna go that route the Palestinian people are not peace loving they celebrated the 9/11 disaster
@@Norn_Ironit seems israel is removing hamas s ability to wage war
So the jews, christians, druzes and arabs can live in peace after 80 years of struggle
@@yourtypicalnoob5067no. Its a cool little fact stop taking it so seriously
Every time I hear a protester speak, it’s just emotion, denial, deflection, & buzzwords 💙🙏🏻💙
So drone striking kids and aid workers is OK then? Because emotion?
And ZERO knowledge of reality in that region.
@@sccoastalfish2655 Yes, I’ve seen that too. 💙🙏🏻💙
@sccoastalfish2655 Educate us then on how the use of famine as a weapon and drone striking kids is acceptable.
@@senorfrost3830Both sides do those things. I don't know what world you're living in, but in this one WAR ISN'T PRETTY.
This lady is delusional 😂
There is no Palestine, only Judea. Jews state from ancient times.
where were they during the Palestinian mandate?
@@bruh-zw9hxdoes the name Mussolini ring a bell?
Listen to the court cowards
@@bruh-zw9hxseems you dont know a thing either. Jewish migration to the Mandate of Palestine began in the 1830’s and picked up in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s until the Second World War which would see them migrating on mass. The video earlier even stated that the Jews have been in the land and were fighting to get the British out. There were around 200,000 Jews living in the British Mandate of Palestine before the events of WWII.
@@joshuakausmann5504 those numbers also weren’t natural migration. they were being deported by other nations or attempting to flee discriminatory states. the land, which Britain illegally occupied, could’ve become a peaceful territory. instead of that, Britain promised both populations their own state. The colonial admin made no attempt to ensure peace between Palestinians, a population comprised of Jews, Muslims, and Christians mind you, and new arrivals from Europe. The new arrivals used their superior support from the British to exploit the situation.
the Jews were a minority before WW2, and they were a minority after. however, they were given a totalitarian diktat over the region. much like how Americans have cause many conflicts by giving the Shia or Sunni minorities of a region absolute control over their religiously and ethnically distinct neighbors.
remember, Britain’s original plan was for Israel to have the entire levant essentially.
Facts can be a very inconvenient truth for radicals. It’s so refreshing to hear reason and truth. ❤️🙏🏻
None of this from her first lie is the truth. The Mandate for Palestine wasn’t a colonial entity. It was a mandate of the League of Nations in the aftermath of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after World War I. If you can’t even tell the truth about basic background facts how are we supposed to believe any of your other lies?
This is not the "truth", better read your Bible closely as God gave the land (now Israel) to Abraham & wife Sarah not Arabs who worshiped a different God and why he banished them (Palestinians) who use their own so called biblical history (Quran).
It just calls for genocide. People chanting terrorist chants without knowing it's meaning.
Disgusting.
Maybe what they want is a land where Jews and Palestinians can live freely, democratically, and with full citizen rights for everyone. Just like every advanced country. What's wrong with that?
“Some people are just obsessed with ignorance. That's why they act without reasoning.” - Frank Stephen
You are one of those people. It’s truly sad.
@@Promislandzion It's obvious you didn't understand my comment.
@@evansglobal1 Maybe not but it his video is filled with misinformation. 😂
@@Promislandzion there is no misinformation in this video. You dislike it simply because it contradicts the pro-Hamas propaganda you were fed with. Wake up, bro ✍️
The Arabs launched 3 wars of agression against Israel and lost. Wars have consequences.
And so does colonialism
Why did Reagan believe that the Israelis were "Illegally and Immorally" occupying Palestinian land? (His words.) Why did he let the U.N. pass 21 resolutions condemning Israel? Why did he take Hafez al-Assad's side over Israel once? Why did he even take Saddam Hussein's side over Israel once? Because he wasn't a Leftist Neocon America Last and Israel First lunatic who put the interests of the Democratic Party Colony that calls itself Israel over his own country.
@@YesmineMenyar Indeed. And so do atrocities.
Colonizing from what empire? @@YesmineMenyar
73’ wasnt a lost
Demons don’t want the truth
If you go back even more, you'll reach the age that dinosaurs ruled that land 😂
Remember kids, Syria was Christian at one point- and Israel was Jewish. Muslim nations conquered them all thousands of years ago, meaning they weren’t there first
Yeah, but the people who converted to Islam are the descendants of those Jews and Christians, not foreigners who displaced the native population. Genetic tests prove it.
Exactly the Muslims are the colonial invaders. Just, like, every, one, else. Everybody wants to rule the world.
And Anglo-Saxons and Normans colonized England. What matters right now is the ongoing conflict. A Jewish state of some form should exist in the Levant, you can’t exactly get rid of it now. But Israel should also stop bombing civilians and humanitarian aid. And you know, the whole ethnic cleansing.
It’s simpletons like the protesters in this video who are the problem, people who blindly support one side or the other without seeing the nuance of the situation.
Literally the dumbest thing I've read today!
And they were pagans before either Christianity or Judaism 🤡 wanna go back to worshipping the sun and making some sacrifices? No? Well it's pretty weird that when it comes to historical arguments y'all just cherry pick what you like ,twist a little then consume and ignore the rest. It's history, either take all of it or stay in your bubble.
palestine wins on the internet, Israel wins on the battlefield
Lol true
For how long ,pity
That’s what you think because there cowards that can’t fight on the ground or fight hand to hand combat because there losers like you 😂
They might be winning now but if they continue the current course they will still lose on the battlefield eventually, because they don't have the guts to do what needs to be done to win it.
@@zi326They are literally a nuclear state, buddy, it's rules and not guts which is stopping them😂
There wasnt a palestinian state before 1988💀 so saying we want 48 means they want to be ruled by the british i guess😂💀
What she fells to mention is that the descendants of Judea are not the American Israelis, the European Israelis, the Russian Israelis or the Ethiopian Israelis. It was genetically proven that the descendants of Judea are the Arab Jews and the modern Palestinians. Look it up!
They are two very different people, also why shout this relate to any different kind of Israeli, it’s just talking about the history of the land and the fact an independent Palestinian state never existed.
They are two very different people, also why shout this relate to any different kind of Israeli, it’s just talking about the history of the land and the fact an independent Palestinian state never existed.
These protestors have no idea what they're doing.
Why did Reagan believe that the Israelis were "Illegally and Immorally" occupying Palestinian land? (His words.) Why did he let the U.N. pass 21 resolutions condemning Israel? Why did he take Hafez al-Assad's side over Israel once? Why did he even take Saddam Hussein's side over Israel once? Because he wasn't a Leftist Neocon America Last and Israel First lunatic who put the interests of the Democratic Party Colony that calls itself Israel over his own country.
wow, you have the idea ?😂
@@alifsajesaje3yah, some advice, when trying to convince the West to help you and not Israel, maybe don't shout out loud your evil plan to take over the entire region including Israel proper to the world. Maybe idk....just chant for a fair two state like same normal people? Why does Greece have to accept its losses but you cannot?
@@alifsajesaje3 I have the idea these protestors didn't receive much attention as children, and just heard about Palestine and are blindly supporting it just like they did with Ukraine back in 2022.
Problem with too many people on benefit..
The Jewish people lived in that part of the world almost 1,100 years before the work Palestinians ever showed up in print. The Romans can up with the word and it was used as an insult toward the Jews who were being deported in 133AD
So you're basically saying the Jews have no real history in this land and are just colonizers? Got it
When the Jew came to modern day Israel there were already people living there known as Cana it’s according to the Old Testament. These Arabs are the descendants of those Canaanite’s dna test prove this so ur incorrect
That's just a recently popularized myth. In reality, the Greek historian Herodotus described the region as a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" all the way back [around 450 BCE], hundreds of years before the Romans came around.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine#Classical_antiquity
So give it to the religious people who were before the jews
Just letting you know Palestine is derived from Peleset as the region was settled by Greek mercenaries. And yes the historical Pelset were then sister race to them Hebrews both "races" are dead at this point. But yes there was an actual independent Jewish state several times. Most famously you had the Kingdoms of Judea and Israel. Judea was conqured first and became a client state to Babylon. Israel stayed free until the Persians, then Selucid Greeks until they Macabee revolutio.
God established Isreal.
Indeed, there was never a Palestinian state. But there was a Judean state.
So basically, if you go back, the closest independent state was Jewish
edit: may or may have not started a massive war in the comments (what a shock)
Judaism predates Islam by hundreds of years.
Correct. These emo kids don’t actually read up in accurate history and just love to have sh*t to talk about.
In reality, the protesters would prefer to return to the state of affairs in 1943 Germany - but they know that they use euphemisms & slogans to provide deniability to their benefactors.
Hamas are in essence Nazis and Palestine is Nazi germany.
They voted in a tyrannical genocidal group into power that has no problems sacrificing every last Palestinian to accomplish their twisted dream of genocide.
Hitler started world war two with the justification that he had to save the Germans that were (and it is true) treated badly outside of Germany. He wanted a united German Homeland just like Hamas and Palestine
Yes, it’s that simple. That means the people living there basically don’t exist. 🤡🤡🤡
same people wanting LGBT for Palestine
Next you hear, make Gaza gay again, lol
Now that’s really insane, unless you like to fly off buildings.
You know it's kinda funny you see all the women not wearing that crap over there face and head so I guess they want that shit here too?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol good luck with that
There was no state of Palestine. Just a British mandate
They brought wrong flag then.
RULE BRITANNIA!
Palestine: 💀
Israel: 💀
Kingdom of Jerusalem: 🗿🍷
edit2: i started a war
Kingdom of Jerusalem is Israel
@@chaltrs i know, just the modern i’m pointing out
@@boomdoodles_altno it's not a kingdom of jerusalem well kingdom of jerusalem is just waiting
for the right time
@@boomdoodles_alt huh
@@yourfriend3999 still kingdom of Jerusalem was a Jewish country
Puppets repeating the slogan they were given is as pathetic as it gets.
Agree
Most of them are Gen Z college kids which is embarrassing to me, A Gen Z high schooler. Not all of us are like this. I did my own research and i know most of the history behind it and i know the truth of what hamas has done.
the usual woke numbnuts
You look like an aerosol
@@darkendoceans1923hello aerosol
We the people are sick of these idiots protesting for other countries
But they dont want to talk about that... ✡
Excellent, return to the british mandate! The Empire rises...
Looks like the British are coming back for round 2!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The "PRO" palestine. Wow what a joke😅
Arabs we’re left in Israel for just this purpose .
Thank you. I stand with Israel and the Jewish peoples
Give them a free plane tickets to Gaza
Yes please!
without flying back
People who say this also should be, and then they would probably understand tye protesting
Thats like saying we should fly people to Guantanamo bay for protesting that it be shut down?
ah exactly,,,, let them go back to where they belong 😂
Cmon let us British have our land back
Once again, their ignorance shows!
For those that still don't get it, Palestine , NEVER EXISTED, drop the Mike!!!!!!
Yeah... Picking the mic up. Before you leave:
BEFORE WW2 Palestine existed. The "British Mandate of Palestine" was the result after WW2 when the British BEING THE BRITISH saw the opportunity to take over that area of land. There are thousands of Bibles, Torahs and other manuscripts that clearly stated the land being the "state of Palestine" long before the second ww. Your history class must have been "Israeled" 😂 lol
Hello George you brilliant aerosol
@@alexandrias_lighthousebefore WW2 Palestine wasn’t a country it became a country in the 80’s and WW2 happened from 1930’s to 1945 mic drop
@@yaboitheredux yet every country around it recognized it as such to the point where any Bible printed with a map before WW2 they called the holy land the land of Palestine
@@alexandrias_lighthouse except no country did so why tell lies a basic google search can clear that up
When I grew up, I heard stories about America’s founding and how we’re lucky we’re a new country. We don’t have these thousand-year-old conflict and we just mind our own and don’t get involved
. Man must’ve been good times.
Just give it back to the British 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
When I heard "we want 48", I started sweating. I thought they were talking about the contiguous United States.
They are, that's next.
Well in America you already have rachida tlaib and ilhan Omar which are clearly working for the islamists
Yes Russia is next
They are. Looks like TikTok already has taken its first mind.
Alaska and Hawaii are shaking rn
They will never admit the truth. Just jew hatred
Brain washed
Last time I checked 30000 Jewish people didn't just get murderd in less than 8 months. You are not the victim here
@@ameralzen3367yeah, washed clean of the fucking crap that the left's brains are filled with.
Brain washed pro palies indeed
Don't even know why Palestine attacked Israel and was formed..
Amin al Husseini + Adolf, you can thank their influence of attacking jews.. and you can thank The arabs getting their asses kicked, cause they still try to commit the Holocaust they started
Right…. It’s not like there aren’t MANY Jews who are anti Israel or anything like that..
Funny how people that yell nazi are closer to that image than they know
Dont give the british any ideas
You want them to actually learn history and truth??? Sorry that requires brain cells!!!
When Palestine was just Palestine they made their coins with Hebrew words on the Palestinian coin saying "the land of Israel” and so not only did Jews live there, but they (The Jews in Palestine) were bucking the system of repression by outside sources even then.
😂
You are right, that's impossible for Zionists xD
Some of them were asked the name of the river and the sea....they didnt lnow.
@@lejs1974nah, its for the hamas supporters.
For a second I seriously thought they had the idea of splitting Palestine and Israel into 48 separate states. Like there is nowhere near enough room to do that 😂
Yeah microscopic states 😂
Not really enough room for one, if we're being honest. Just let the Syrians annex it.
48 counties, the region returned to the UN
“Jew of the land fought to remove” got to be the wildest lie I’ve ever heard. WOW
Try reading about it. If you read about it, you’ll find out that’s actually true. Between 1917 and 1947, there were many Jew militants that were fighting to get rid of the British mandate, some fought with pure firepower and some tried to corporate with the British instead. Ultimately, in 1947, the mandate was over, and in 1948, Israel became a state and declared independence.
There was never a Palestine state. It was only Palestine land.
It is The Kingdom of Judea, The Land of Israel. People should just stop messing with it! I pray all will know The Prince of Peace, Yeshua Ha Mashiach, Jesus ❤
Nope Arabian peninsula for the arabs
It's a shit hole is what it is.
@@generaleyan1676 why? but its the truth.... you cant just do that
@@manoelmusicchannel I mean this was true 3000 years ago but I don’t think the Jews have a claim on those lands anymore. The only reason they are there right now is because the uk wanted to give something to the Jews after the holocaust but they didn’t ask the palestiniens who have been living there for more than a millennia
@@generaleyan1676did you just.... Not watch the video at all?
Also the Jews have always been known to live in that region longer than Muslims. The Jews were oppressed in the region by, for example,The Ottomans empire and Persian empire. Also the Brits kept it under a PALESTINIAN mandate until the Jews overthrew it, eventually leading to the two states that are there today. Israel definitely has a claim to their own homeland, not to mention they've defended it against Arabian coalitions multiple times.
Hamas wants to destroy Israel but can't. Israel could destroy Hamas but won't.
It ain't over 'till it's over..
Bill Maher does get it right once in a while.
@@johnstuartsmith
What does that mean?
Underrated comment, cause That’s a damm right good sir…
If they could they would which is proof that they can’t the modern Jew only plays at war they don’t have what their ancient ancestors had.
Give it to the British. It’s as simple as that, can’t fight over who is oppressing the other if it’s he British’s turn
There was never a state of Palestine, ever!!
Imagine the Brits or the French or Spaniards demanding parts of North America back. That's the logic of the Palestinians. Tell me which country on earth has never defined its borders through conflict?
By that logic if middle east takes Israel militarily like the British did all good right?
Dont you complain now! 😂😊
@@harnessriscallous7466Lol they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
Look at them crying victim as they hold their civilians as shields.
True cowards, but not surprising coming from a religion that licks the heel of a man that was illiterate 😂
@@harnessriscallous7466 They've tried, multiple times since 1948, with the first attempt being a five state coalition called the Arab League headed by Nasser the Egyptians....... Guess what, the Israelis trounced them and increased land holding each and every time.
@@thenewbohemian5779 and Iran just got through the iron dome and attacked the military base that hit the Iran embassy...
Without using their hypersonic rockets, just cheap knockoff rockets.
Oops, the world now knows Israels retaliatory dominance is a fraud, America wasted hundreds of billions on a faulty iron dome, and Israel has 0 respect in the world theater....
So again, nice to know you agree it will be 100% legit if the middle east takes over. In fact, you're daring them to try 😂
I seem to remember the French being so butthurt by being taken over by the Nazis that the leader signed off on as many as 120,000 dead French citizens when Americans warned them they were invading Normandy...
Only 60,000 French citizens were killed by the end of the struggle.
Funny, French seemed wildly butthurt then.
To my knowledge, neither Hamas nor any other Palestinian representative authority has officially put that down in writing as a proposal for a permanent peace. Instead, the Palestinians voted in Hamas as their government in Gaza and have demanded the complete elimination of Israel. So, these pro Palestinian protesters ranting about 1948 is pointless.
Your knowledge is out of date. Hamas updated their charter in 2017 to clarify their resistance to Zionism rather than Jews. This new charter recognizes the borders of 1967 as a reasonable compromise.
so
The last Palestinian election was in 2006. For all but 6 months of the last 73 YEARS, Israel has occupied Palestine in what experts are now calling an 'apartheid state'. You remember apartheid, yeah? South African genocide? Fun fact, the International Criminal Court is issuing Netanyahu an arrest warrant for violating the Rome Statute and participating in genocide against the Palestinian people and Israeli arabs.
Hamas =/= All Palestinians. If you were being oppressed for decades, your land and homes stolen, your movement restricted, your family relocated and denied basic human rights, Israeli arabs being denied citizenship, seeing your friends and family slaughtered by an occupying force....what would you do? Would you politely ask them for your rights, or vote for a group promising to defend you and give back the rights you've been denied? We know what the US chose, but I'm gonna take a guess that you don't have a problem with that detail.
Most Palestinians and Pro Palestine protestors and supporter do NOT support Hamas, I would even guess that the majority of Palestinians would be okay with a two state solution if it meant stopping the violence and murder and death. Unfortunately, Netanyahu has said he wants all Palestinians "wiped from the face of the earth completely," considering Palestinians "inhuman animals." Where else have we heard of an an entire group of people being labeled sub human/animals/infestations? I'll let you figure that bit out.
These people are angry. They are terrified for their lives, and one of the biggest militaries in the world is supporting Israel. So many people believe the propaganda that Jewish people can't commit genocide because hitler (oh hey, its the answer from up there ^), and their homes and hospitals and schools continue to be bombed, their children continue to live in a literal war zone, and the international community continues to do nothing. You'd be angry and scared too. You'd be looking for any help you can get too.
The last time Palestine had an election was 2006. 18 years ago. Imagine if Trump or Biden (whatever side you're on) was president for 18 years and kept registries of all minorities and sectioned off certain areas of cities minorities are allowed to live in. If you were one of those minorities, how would you feel then?
I am not defending Hamas. Their actions are reprehensible. But to have that opinion when Hamas does it but not when Israel does it is pure hypocrisy. One can understand why a thing exists without condoning or supporting that thing, and just because a group has experienced genocide in the past does not mean they are incapable of committing genocide themselves.
Their proposal for peace is rather simple. For Israel to dissolve.
Well you're knowledge is very limited.
The Arab Peace Initiative has been around for over two decades now, and the PA has been on board the whole time, at least other than the brief period in which they were under Hamas control. It just calls for a two state solution negotiated on the basis of international law, and it's Israel who has never been pressured into accepting peace on those terms.
So in other words Jews must live in midair...
There was never a state of Palestine!
Israel has fought a number of conflicts with various Arab forces, most notably in 1948-49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and 2023-present. Arabs started and lost all the time.
0 Israeli military
100% American support
@@shahstranusy No - actually in 1948, the US was reluctant to help the Israeli military, so the Israelis managed to purchase old leftover WW2 weapons from France and Czechoslovakia - and this rag-tag Israeli Military, composed of many Holocaust Survivors, defeated 5 invading Arab Armies and increased their territory by 140%.
It wasn't until 1973 that the US actually openly supported Israel - due to the Arab Oil Embargo because of the 1973 Arab-Israeli War (the Yom Kippur War.
@shagstranusy keep coping
@@thekidsbros9182 7 year old typing 💬 lol 😆
Yes and every time the Arabs attacked first they slowly lost land
It was always the land of the Jews, it wasn't Palestine it's always been Jerusalem.
Jews who have lived in Europe the past 1000 years? Yeah no buddy. They just came to Palestine, threw the Palestinians out of their homes and their land and proclaimed a racist and apartheid state
exactly what I've been saying - it's literally been Jewish since biblical times. Remember the book of Exodus? The promised land?
No, in 1350 bC. the Hebrews arrived from the east. Before that is was Egyptian.
True jews will tell you they have no homeland land. When you actually read the religious texts. They lost their land FOREVER for disobeying god. Never to get it back. Anyone telling you differently is literally the synagogue of satan
Pretty sure white peoples weren’t the same inhabitants but keep cooking for Zion
Definition of useful idiots or useful fools
This is a terrible logical conclusion, israel is a colonialist state reverting back to 48 just means going back to a time before the genocide
Pretty sure Palestine was never a state, it's like calling the Midwest a state.
Pretty sure every states were never a state at some point in history
so do we all agree that before british invasion and zionist migration this place was for the palestinians arab right ? 😂😂😂
@@harispratama4691so then theres no occupation💯
@@midnightdemon9157no
"mandate of palestine"
I cant believe how uneducated young generations are
Their ignorance is gonna kill us all
You’re literally a boomer
Lmfao, I’m Gen Z and even I can tell you what’s going on from both sides without going into a protest. Honestly it baffles me sometimes
They are young. They are not suppose to know everything.
@@epgamer1145But they actually know nothing. These big degrees they are in college for aren't teaching them anything useful ,like maybe some actual true historical fact.
They had their chance to have all that territory, they refused and Israel took it instead.
And still, there's no Israel 😂😂😂😂
They are saying : we feel way to comfortable in the civilised country, and will ruin it by own barbaric actions.
Yep they feel so comfortable that countless infants are dying everyday, living so comfortably yea, you’re right. Who would not want these many deaths, isn’t that living comfortably?
@@Ello9 I don't see them going to the Palestine to help, they are just abusing a civilised society with own illogical, irrational and violent behaviour.
And please , do spare me this nonsensical moral extortion.
@@Ello9 And yet none of them are eager to go to Palestine. They chose to exploit the good nature of the countries that provided them with peace of mind and safety. Please spare me this fake morality and virtue signalling
@@Ello9Yep. Shouldn't of messed with Israel.
It was never barbaric , only after erouoe messed with it did things go to hell, they just needed a place to dump the jews they didn't want
Yes, they are saying that they want British occupation.