I just got and run an MPA DS9 LOC also! The pistol is phenomenal! I went away from my DAA Xip pouches to Henning T900s which will be in the coming week. Running a BSG race holster similar to the Flex you have also…..
I'd like a rules optimized sao sig x5, a new CZ tacsport, the beretta that seems like its optic moint needs a redesign, and hammer fired Walther to open up LO options.
@@TheGentlemanGunner I understand that... I try and try to get that through to people... I'm not going to lie I shoot a lot 2 or 3 times a week... But the competition atmosphere and the enjoyment I had... I'm HOOKED
@@bluyetiinc7553 it is currently with Canik for warranty work my serial number was in the first 50 and I have had mag over insertion failure to feed and my recoil spring was eating into the the thin front of the slide
Great video dude! I may be looking at an LOC to augment my aluminum DS9, they are so insanely dense the recoil doesnt exist. But like you said the aluminum just moves around better! Im considering fitting a nitro fin and shielded safties to my AL DS9 for kind of a mix between the two.
What you’re talking about was my old LO setup for USPSA. I just took my Aardvarks (before I ported them)… and stuck on a Nitrofin, Larger Magwell, and the Double Tap Shielded Safety (single sided though). It was a fun setup!
@TheGentlemanGunner so after making the mistake of playing with a Hayes Custom, the MPA just might become a back up gun. The Hayes was just too nice so I recommend checking one out when you have the chance!
Hi thanks for the great videos!.I got my black and blue ds9 hybrid 3 months ago.I like the large magwell,however i noticed i have a hard time getting both of my hands around the gun as the large magwell wants to push my hands apart.When i try to crush down onto the gun my support hand has a hard time clamping around that grip due to the large magwell.I don't have huge hands either,i would say medium.I want to shoot uspsa with it i just didn't get around to it this year.Can you use the smaller mag well in uspsa, because it would be a much better feel and i would be able to get both hands around the grip without the large mag well pushing my support hand apart from the gun.Thanks!
@@timothygarrity5181 so, the short answer is yes you can use a smaller magwell for USPSA… you don’t have to use one if you so choose. However, I am curious to see your grip technique and this is up to you if you’d like me to… but head on over to my website and fill the form or email me either some video or pictures… because this is the first I’ve ever have heard of this and would like to understand it. Don’t worry… I’m not a salesperson for MPA lol… just want to see if I can help!
I use a thumbs over thumbs gŕip like i do in idpa.If feels like the large magwell pushes my hands way up into the beaver tail tight.If it was a thinner magwell i could slide my hands and finger down the grip farther to where my grip isn't cramped. should be tight anyway but you know what i mean.With the large magwell the pinky pad side of my hand contacts that magwell to where it wants to force my grip apart some.The large magwell makes the grip appear shorter when you take a thumbs forward grip and try to stack both hands under the beaver tali.Hard to explain really.Basically my pinky side of flesh is contacting that fat magwell and it is making it real difficult to close my hands properly .Thanks!
Excellent Excellent videos!.I have a couple questions. I've shot idpa for years and want to try uspsa but at same time want to try the idpa version of this gun.I would like to know if the trigger is just as short in the non loc uspsa version of the ds9 hybrid?Basically between the 2 uspsa models that they offer.I would want to shoot the aluminum grip i think.I would also like to know if the grip in the idpa version is thinner than the uspsa version?.I can definitely tell the mag well in the uspsa model is bigger than the idpa model, but I'm not sure.I am going to be purchasing one of the 2, either idpa or uspsa version I'm not sure yet though. Thanks for the help!.
Dimensionally speaking, the guns are identical… so grip size and trigger reach/distance are the same… you can also get different trigger shoe sizes regardless of which one you choose.
Great video. I was very close to ordering a LOC. Ended up ordering a Priest. I don’t think you can go wrong with either of the two. I should have mine done at the end of march just in time for the Texas State Open in April. 🤞
Hi I have the same set up and I'm having a little problem at the moment of pilling the gun from the holster. Did you experience something similar? Your videos ate informative. Great Job! Thanks
@@titovegacave-reloadingenes5683 if you’re talking about the FLEX holster…yes, after sometime it became “sticky” when I would draw sometimes. I found if you run it looser… it helps. This particular holster doesn’t like guns over 50oz as others and I have learned
@@apachewarrior1 I never did handloads for this gun. Most of the time I ran SuperVel 124 as well Syntech 150 at majors. I honestly felt that Syntech 150 was too soft shooting for this gun for my Preference.
Tbis model is pretty heavy.I called mpa amd had them weigh one that didn't have the nitrofin or steel frame.It was the uspsa model that had the regular slide stop on it.The weight of the gun was between 41 and 42 ounces if that sounds right to you?.That model also had the full length dust cover.
Yeah that sounds about right with a full length dust cover… my IDPA version is 44oz with an empty mag and optic… only difference is that it has the Butler cut on the dust cover and smaller magwell
@TheGentlemanGunner Thanks for all the help, great channel!.Do you find yourself shooting slower times with the ds9s compared to polymer guns.Probably slower on transitioning from target to target.I could be wrong though.
@@timothygarrity5181 and I appreciate you watching! To answer your question… generally no… while swinging and manipulating the gun is a touch slower for me… the forgiveness of having a heavier gun when I settle on a target is the trade off… and if I pull off to early (which I’m guilty of)… there’s that tiny delay that works in my favor… but once I get some additional time on this gun I’ll probably be happy about it
@TheGentlemanGunner I think even the lighter aluminum version would still be more helpful then than a glock because it would stay on target due to weight.
Hi i talked to you recently about the ds9 hybrid. I decided on the stainless and black and ordered it.I do have a question and it may sound silly but i am new to the 1911 platform.I have just shot glocks and xdms in idpa for a long time.I don't want a grip safety and when i went to the options part i chose stationary Beavertail. Is this the correct option if i don't want a grip safety?. If i were to order the black ds9 it gives me a non functional option with the Beavertail. The stainless and black model is the only one out of the ds9s that gives me a stationary Beavertail option,all other ds9s gives you the non functional option.Does it sound like i picked the right option if i don't want a grip safety?.Thanks!.
I’m currently in Carry Optic with a Beretta 92X Performance. Currently I’m trying to decide between the MPA DS9 LOC that you have and the Laugo Arms Alien Limited Optic Kit. The Alien seems to be a great gun. But the MPA lifetime warranty seems to a good deal too. Plus I heard great things abouts about MPa. Have you tried the Alien by any chance? If you had to decide between Alien and the DS9 would you still choose the DS9 or the Alien?
I have to regretfully say I haven’t had a chance to shoot the Alien yet. I did shoot a major match with David (@thehumblemarksman) and he did well with it. However, I’d have to say it’s a no for me as of today even without having shot it. Why? Because one of the highest priorities for me in specifically competition isn’t how it shoots… but how reliable it is, its usability as well as if it goes down… what now? I’ve been on squads where 4 guys in had them in competition… as of now… David’s is the only one I’ve seen run reliably. When they go down… they go down hard lol… clearing malfunctions has to be the hardest thing I’ve seen as the chamber sits so far down in there that clearing it quick… even if its a stovepipe… takes additional time vs nearly anything else. Secondly, they seem to not be able to run and/or feed the first round with a fully loaded mag… this was the case for all shooters that I’ve seen. Lastly, I manipulated the CELO and it was rather easy to accidentally grab the middle rail (sits higher in the CELO)and not rack it back… you really have to think About where you place your hands. But you shoot a 92x so it wouldn’t be necessarily unfamiliar from a racking perspective. All that to say, do I want to shoot and perhaps own one… absolutely! But criteria for a competition setup for me extends beyond shoot ability and the desire to shoot something unique (maybe even better!). It has to perform in the other checkboxes and just isn’t there for me yet.
@@TheGentlemanGunner I agree with you. I think shooting a MPA will be more reliable and more familiar to me. Also the lifetime warranty of MPA is very convenient. Thank you so much!
@@jimbobborg22 only time I see it is when a newer shooter (or new to competition) shows up with it and/or is their EDC setup. Why I don’t run it… because I don’t need or want more weight out front granted some guns inherently have them in their frame design (full steel frame dust covers such as this gun and CZ 75s such as the S2).
Do you think the improvement in fit you notice with the LOC is model based (e.i. specific to the LOC) or do you think they've improved the fit, etc. across the board?
I think it’s evolution to it all. There’s nothing at least on the website in their features/specs that suggest that there is additional attention given to the LOC in terms of fitting.
@TheGentlemanGunner Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. I'm really torn between an LOC, regular Hybrid and the IDPA. We don't have any sanctioned events in my part of Alaska so I can use anything I want in out local comps but we're hoping to move to the lower 48 in a couple years so it'd be nice to get something I could use in as many Divisions as possible, steel plate included.
@@SEAKPhotog before I had these and ported the barrels on my other guns… I would toss on a larger magwell and Nitrofin. That’s what I ran at Handgun Nationals this past year.
@TheGentlemanGunner Yep, I'm wondering if I could go the opposite direction and get an LOC with an aluminum grip and remove the nitrofin and large magwell when I wanna make weight. I think it might work. I've already checked with MPA and they'll install an aluminum grip on the LOC and cut the price by $300 as well. Frankly, the LOC with steel grip might just be too heavy for me. My TS2 with hollow brass grips is about as heavy as I wanna go at 53 ounces with a mag, and while I enjoy using it for stationary stuff, I much prefer my S2 and Bul Air (polymer grip) for dynamic stuff. We'll see. It's a fun dilemma.
I have a priest coming and I am ping-ponging with the grip material. Since you have both MPA in alu and steel grips, which one do you like best? I shoot a shadow 2 at the moment and I know you changed from there so I wanted to hear your thoughts
That’s tough… I just shot my first match today with the this gun in the video (Steel Grip)… At first I kinda thought it was heavy… but this gun settles well. I can tell you though it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if I got stuck with the aluminum grip. I’ve come to appreciate guns in the 40oz to 45oz range as I personally feel that’s an ideal competition gun weight while being heavy enough to reap the benefits of a lighter gun in manipulation and transitions. The heavier guns are easier to shoot on the move and if you hate recoil impulse… it definitely mutes it quite a bit.
@@TheGentlemanGunnerI see, that’s good to know. The one consideration I had is that the balance of the gun would probably be better with the steel frame, since it pushes the CG back toward the hand. Coming from a shadow 2 I feel like 2011s can have better balance. Maybe when your detailed review comes out that helps me make a decision
@@Icabueno what I will say about the S2 is it needs the brass grips in general… a tad muzzle heavy for my preference. Most 2011s are balanced well… and having more weight in the hands is ideal. I’ll have to think of a way to describe once I do the formal review on the DS9 because when I Dry-Fire… it feels heavy… shooting it is where you’re like… “how did that happen?!?!” The hits just show up for me… I shot 93% of points today just to give a point of reference
FWIW, I'm new to 2011s as well and also shoot an S2 OR and TS2. I bought a Bul Air competition 2011 as my second 2011. It has a polymer grip but a full, solid block of a dust cover. I thought the balance and recoil impulse might be an issue. To my pleasant surprise, the gun balances just fine and I'm pretty sure the polymer eats up some of the recoil. It's tied as my favorite gun alongside my S2OR. It's a joy to shoot and I shoot it very well. Surprisingly, I like the lighter weight and more nimble feeling. With that in mind, I'm very close to ordering a DS9 Hybrid or maybe an LO Comp with an aluminum grip. 🙂
@@Gabierama yes, all black and identical. I have the polished barrels on my IDPA DS9s and they look great. When I had these two put together… I wanted an all black… so it depends for me.
Great video. Was not aware of the LOC so thank you. I want to see MPA do very well. We need more companies like theirs in this country.
100% agree
Great video thanks for the info sweet set up sir! That MPA LOC model looks terrific as well. Great shooting you are burning it down wow!
I just got and run an MPA DS9 LOC also! The pistol is phenomenal! I went away from my DAA Xip pouches to Henning T900s which will be in the coming week. Running a BSG race holster similar to the Flex you have also…..
I'd like a rules optimized sao sig x5, a new CZ tacsport, the beretta that seems like its optic moint needs a redesign, and hammer fired Walther to open up LO options.
I’d compete with PDP SF as is in LO
I think if USPSA would create a Carry Optics category with comps and ports that would be great!
My first uspsa match was in limited optics with a Canik Rival -S and I thought I was going to get killed but I actually didn't do to bad considering
“It’s the Indian, not the arrow” or something like that lol. Also… not a bad tool at all
@@TheGentlemanGunner I understand that... I try and try to get that through to people... I'm not going to lie I shoot a lot 2 or 3 times a week... But the competition atmosphere and the enjoyment I had... I'm HOOKED
I just purchased a Rival-S. How is it working out now?
@@bluyetiinc7553 it is currently with Canik for warranty work my serial number was in the first 50 and I have had mag over insertion failure to feed and my recoil spring was eating into the the thin front of the slide
Great video dude! I may be looking at an LOC to augment my aluminum DS9, they are so insanely dense the recoil doesnt exist. But like you said the aluminum just moves around better! Im considering fitting a nitro fin and shielded safties to my AL DS9 for kind of a mix between the two.
What you’re talking about was my old LO setup for USPSA. I just took my Aardvarks (before I ported them)… and stuck on a Nitrofin, Larger Magwell, and the Double Tap Shielded Safety (single sided though). It was a fun setup!
@TheGentlemanGunner so after making the mistake of playing with a Hayes Custom, the MPA just might become a back up gun. The Hayes was just too nice so I recommend checking one out when you have the chance!
@@jacrispy9603 I might have to do that!
Hi thanks for the great videos!.I got my black and blue ds9 hybrid 3 months ago.I like the large magwell,however i noticed i have a hard time getting both of my hands around the gun as the large magwell wants to push my hands apart.When i try to crush down onto the gun my support hand has a hard time clamping around that grip due to the large magwell.I don't have huge hands either,i would say medium.I want to shoot uspsa with it i just didn't get around to it this year.Can you use the smaller mag well in uspsa, because it would be a much better feel and i would be able to get both hands around the grip without the large mag well pushing my support hand apart from the gun.Thanks!
@@timothygarrity5181 so, the short answer is yes you can use a smaller magwell for USPSA… you don’t have to use one if you so choose. However, I am curious to see your grip technique and this is up to you if you’d like me to… but head on over to my website and fill the form or email me either some video or pictures… because this is the first I’ve ever have heard of this and would like to understand it. Don’t worry… I’m not a salesperson for MPA lol… just want to see if I can help!
I use a thumbs over thumbs gŕip like i do in idpa.If feels like the large magwell pushes my hands way up into the beaver tail tight.If it was a thinner magwell i could slide my hands and finger down the grip farther to where my grip isn't cramped. should be tight anyway but you know what i mean.With the large magwell the pinky pad side of my hand contacts that magwell to where it wants to force my grip apart some.The large magwell makes the grip appear shorter when you take a thumbs forward grip and try to stack both hands under the beaver tali.Hard to explain really.Basically my pinky side of flesh is contacting that fat magwell and it is making it real difficult to close my hands properly .Thanks!
Excellent Excellent videos!.I have a couple questions. I've shot idpa for years and want to try uspsa but at same time want to try the idpa version of this gun.I would like to know if the trigger is just as short in the non loc uspsa version of the ds9 hybrid?Basically between the 2 uspsa models that they offer.I would want to shoot the aluminum grip i think.I would also like to know if the grip in the idpa version is thinner than the uspsa version?.I can definitely tell the mag well in the uspsa model is bigger than the idpa model, but I'm not sure.I am going to be purchasing one of the 2, either idpa or uspsa version I'm not sure yet though. Thanks for the help!.
Dimensionally speaking, the guns are identical… so grip size and trigger reach/distance are the same… you can also get different trigger shoe sizes regardless of which one you choose.
Great video. I was very close to ordering a LOC. Ended up ordering a Priest. I don’t think you can go wrong with either of the two. I should have mine done at the end of march just in time for the Texas State Open in April. 🤞
I’d have to agree with that… both are great guns. Good luck and hopefully we run into each other in April!
@@TheGentlemanGunner Good luck to you too man.
When did you ordered yours? I'm thinking about ordering a Priest too. The only down side of the priest is that doesn't have the shielded ambi safety.
@@Gabierama December 7th. You can always change the safeties.
Hi
I have the same set up and I'm having a little problem at the moment of pilling the gun from the holster. Did you experience something similar?
Your videos ate informative. Great Job!
Thanks
@@titovegacave-reloadingenes5683 if you’re talking about the FLEX holster…yes, after sometime it became “sticky” when I would draw sometimes. I found if you run it looser… it helps. This particular holster doesn’t like guns over 50oz as others and I have learned
Nice video! can you explain what your USPSA load data is for this pistol. I get my pistol today and want to put a load together to try out.
@@apachewarrior1 I never did handloads for this gun. Most of the time I ran SuperVel 124 as well Syntech 150 at majors. I honestly felt that Syntech 150 was too soft shooting for this gun for my Preference.
57 oz? Jeezus, my 76 year old hip could not carry that around for long😆
It's for competition, definitely not carry ✌️
Buy two… that way you have one for the other hip to balance it out and it may not feel as heavy! 😂
Tbis model is pretty heavy.I called mpa amd had them weigh one that didn't have the nitrofin or steel frame.It was the uspsa model that had the regular slide stop on it.The weight of the gun was between 41 and 42 ounces if that sounds right to you?.That model also had the full length dust cover.
Yeah that sounds about right with a full length dust cover… my IDPA version is 44oz with an empty mag and optic… only difference is that it has the Butler cut on the dust cover and smaller magwell
@TheGentlemanGunner Thanks for all the help, great channel!.Do you find yourself shooting slower times with the ds9s compared to polymer guns.Probably slower on transitioning from target to target.I could be wrong though.
@@timothygarrity5181 and I appreciate you watching! To answer your question… generally no… while swinging and manipulating the gun is a touch slower for me… the forgiveness of having a heavier gun when I settle on a target is the trade off… and if I pull off to early (which I’m guilty of)… there’s that tiny delay that works in my favor… but once I get some additional time on this gun I’ll probably be happy about it
@TheGentlemanGunner I think even the lighter aluminum version would still be more helpful then than a glock because it would stay on target due to weight.
Hi i talked to you recently about the ds9 hybrid. I decided on the stainless and black and ordered it.I do have a question and it may sound silly but i am new to the 1911 platform.I have just shot glocks and xdms in idpa for a long time.I don't want a grip safety and when i went to the options part i chose stationary Beavertail. Is this the correct option if i don't want a grip safety?. If i were to order the black ds9 it gives me a non functional option with the Beavertail. The stainless and black model is the only one out of the ds9s that gives me a stationary Beavertail option,all other ds9s gives you the non functional option.Does it sound like i picked the right option if i don't want a grip safety?.Thanks!.
I’m currently in Carry Optic with a Beretta 92X Performance. Currently I’m trying to decide between the MPA DS9 LOC that you have and the Laugo Arms Alien Limited Optic Kit. The Alien seems to be a great gun. But the MPA lifetime warranty seems to a good deal too. Plus I heard great things abouts about MPa.
Have you tried the Alien by any chance? If you had to decide between Alien and the DS9 would you still choose the DS9 or the Alien?
I have to regretfully say I haven’t had a chance to shoot the Alien yet. I did shoot a major match with David (@thehumblemarksman) and he did well with it. However, I’d have to say it’s a no for me as of today even without having shot it. Why? Because one of the highest priorities for me in specifically competition isn’t how it shoots… but how reliable it is, its usability as well as if it goes down… what now?
I’ve been on squads where 4 guys in had them in competition… as of now… David’s is the only one I’ve seen run reliably. When they go down… they go down hard lol… clearing malfunctions has to be the hardest thing I’ve seen as the chamber sits so far down in there that clearing it quick… even if its a stovepipe… takes additional time vs nearly anything else. Secondly, they seem to not be able to run and/or feed the first round with a fully loaded mag… this was the case for all shooters that I’ve seen. Lastly, I manipulated the CELO and it was rather easy to accidentally grab the middle rail (sits higher in the CELO)and not rack it back… you really have to think
About where you place your hands. But you shoot a 92x so it wouldn’t be necessarily unfamiliar from a racking perspective.
All that to say, do I want to shoot and perhaps own one… absolutely! But criteria for a competition setup for me extends beyond shoot ability and the desire to shoot something unique (maybe even better!). It has to perform in the other checkboxes and just isn’t there for me yet.
@@TheGentlemanGunner I agree with you. I think shooting a MPA will be more reliable and more familiar to me. Also the lifetime warranty of MPA is very convenient.
Thank you so much!
How is your Alien LO? A buddy of mine got one but the thing gets jammed up after 50 rounds every time he cleans it
Since we can add weapon mounted lights now, are there a lot of competitors doing that now? And why aren't you?
@@jimbobborg22 only time I see it is when a newer shooter (or new to competition) shows up with it and/or is their EDC setup. Why I don’t run it… because I don’t need or want more weight out front granted some guns inherently have them in their frame design (full steel frame dust covers such as this gun and CZ 75s such as the S2).
Do you think the improvement in fit you notice with the LOC is model based (e.i. specific to the LOC) or do you think they've improved the fit, etc. across the board?
I think it’s evolution to it all. There’s nothing at least on the website in their features/specs that suggest that there is additional attention given to the LOC in terms of fitting.
@TheGentlemanGunner Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. I'm really torn between an LOC, regular Hybrid and the IDPA. We don't have any sanctioned events in my part of Alaska so I can use anything I want in out local comps but we're hoping to move to the lower 48 in a couple years so it'd be nice to get something I could use in as many Divisions as possible, steel plate included.
@@SEAKPhotog before I had these and ported the barrels on my other guns… I would toss on a larger magwell and Nitrofin. That’s what I ran at Handgun Nationals this past year.
@TheGentlemanGunner Yep, I'm wondering if I could go the opposite direction and get an LOC with an aluminum grip and remove the nitrofin and large magwell when I wanna make weight. I think it might work. I've already checked with MPA and they'll install an aluminum grip on the LOC and cut the price by $300 as well. Frankly, the LOC with steel grip might just be too heavy for me. My TS2 with hollow brass grips is about as heavy as I wanna go at 53 ounces with a mag, and while I enjoy using it for stationary stuff, I much prefer my S2 and Bul Air (polymer grip) for dynamic stuff. We'll see. It's a fun dilemma.
So are you considering upgrading to the new DS9 LOC V2?
@@chrisdiceart nope, but it does look interesting
Which grip is that? S2 or S3?
I was wondering the same thing. Which Grip level did you order? S1 - S2 - S3?
@@kevinthurston5223 S3 - Ultra Aggressive
The site says the LOC weighs 3 lbs which is 48 ounces.
Where do you get the extra 9 ounces for 57 total ounces?
Is it the mounting plate and optic?
Optic and mag largely… mag is probably 5-6oz, optic is 2-3oz
@@TheGentlemanGunner Thanks for your reply, Sir.
I have a priest coming and I am ping-ponging with the grip material. Since you have both MPA in alu and steel grips, which one do you like best?
I shoot a shadow 2 at the moment and I know you changed from there so I wanted to hear your thoughts
That’s tough… I just shot my first match today with the this gun in the video (Steel Grip)… At first I kinda thought it was heavy… but this gun settles well. I can tell you though it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if I got stuck with the aluminum grip. I’ve come to appreciate guns in the 40oz to 45oz range as I personally feel that’s an ideal competition gun weight while being heavy enough to reap the benefits of a lighter gun in manipulation and transitions. The heavier guns are easier to shoot on the move and if you hate recoil impulse… it definitely mutes it quite a bit.
@@TheGentlemanGunnerI see, that’s good to know. The one consideration I had is that the balance of the gun would probably be better with the steel frame, since it pushes the CG back toward the hand. Coming from a shadow 2 I feel like 2011s can have better balance.
Maybe when your detailed review comes out that helps me make a decision
@@Icabueno what I will say about the S2 is it needs the brass grips in general… a tad muzzle heavy for my preference.
Most 2011s are balanced well… and having more weight in the hands is ideal. I’ll have to think of a way to describe once I do the formal review on the DS9 because when I Dry-Fire… it feels heavy… shooting it is where you’re like… “how did that happen?!?!” The hits just show up for me… I shot 93% of points today just to give a point of reference
FWIW, I'm new to 2011s as well and also shoot an S2 OR and TS2. I bought a Bul Air competition 2011 as my second 2011. It has a polymer grip but a full, solid block of a dust cover. I thought the balance and recoil impulse might be an issue. To my pleasant surprise, the gun balances just fine and I'm pretty sure the polymer eats up some of the recoil. It's tied as my favorite gun alongside my S2OR. It's a joy to shoot and I shoot it very well. Surprisingly, I like the lighter weight and more nimble feeling. With that in mind, I'm very close to ordering a DS9 Hybrid or maybe an LO Comp with an aluminum grip. 🙂
@@TheGentlemanGunner mine has the lighter brass grips.👍🏻
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Do you own two DS9 LOC or just one?
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@@TheGentlemanGunner nice!
They are both all black ?
Which one do you think is better Stainless steel barrel or dlc black barrel?
@@Gabierama yes, all black and identical. I have the polished barrels on my IDPA DS9s and they look great. When I had these two put together… I wanted an all black… so it depends for me.