Top 10 Heavy Board Games

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @SocratesRR90
    @SocratesRR90 22 часа назад +14

    I wish I had friends like you guys to play my heavy games with lol

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад +2

      They are harder to get to the table, but I do love them! 🤩

    • @dayoltay
      @dayoltay 2 часа назад

      Same here. I play solo friendly heavy games mostly for this reason

  • @laurencesingh3948
    @laurencesingh3948 8 часов назад +3

    Great list idea! Some of these games I haven't played or even heard of so it gives me some research to do. Thank you!
    My top ten heavy games, using your BGG 3.8 criteria:
    10. Sankoré: The Pride of Mansa Musa (4.12)
    9. Scholars of the South Tigris (4.05)
    8. The Great Wall (3.92)
    7. Ezra and Nehemiah (3.81)
    6. Nucleum (4.14)
    5. Weather Machine (4.60)
    4. Sabika (3.85)
    3. Inventors of the South Tigris (4.24)
    2. Voidfall (4.63)
    1. Wayfarers of the South Tigris (3.80)
    Honourable mentions to Anachrony (which would have been 11) and Eclipse: New Dawn for the Galaxy (which would have been 5 but has a BGG weight of 3.77).

  • @pincao
    @pincao 15 часов назад +3

    Great list and your Top Lacerda’s on this list are the ones I developed :)

  • @axétério
    @axétério 19 часов назад +1

    Great video, especially loved the crossover hands when your closest arms interweave to do the wave : awesomeness 😉

  • @adhilpatel440
    @adhilpatel440 11 часов назад +1

    Well now I need to go and play Evacuation. Thanks both. Great video.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад +1

      Hope you’ll like it! Happy to hear you enjoyed the video 🥳

    • @adhilpatel440
      @adhilpatel440 6 часов назад

      @BoardGamingRamblings I'm definitely loving Johannes's picks; except Arkwright. ❎

  • @Johannes_W
    @Johannes_W 4 часа назад

    Nice to see you redoing this list :)
    When I played Madeira and also Lisboa within the same week, I had to conclude that "older" games are rated a lot heavier than in the more recent years. I feel like both games would be at like 3.5 now. For example Dani Garcia's Barcelona sits at 3.35 and I feel like it is heavier than either of those. But the 1.0 rule books of Maderia and also Lisboa are pretty, uhm, let's say difficult to read and that might contribute to the perceived weight.
    I didn't play enough heavier games the last few years, so I can't really put a top 10 list together, so I will just mention some that I enjoy ordered by times played using the 3.8 rule, even thought it feels wrong with quite a few games (e.g. how is Darwin's Journey a 3.9 whilst Tiletum is 3.4 and Beyond the Sun a 3.1?!)
    Maracaibo
    Tekhenu
    Barrage
    GWT: NZ
    Sabika
    Era of Tribes
    Evacuation
    Imperial Steam
    Thanks for the video! :)

  • @vovavah
    @vovavah 6 часов назад

    Great list! Now I have a few more titles to look at:)
    My top-1 heavy game now is High Frontier 4 all - it's definitely worth checking out!

  • @Kasper8421
    @Kasper8421 3 часа назад

    You’re so correct how the weight or heaviness of a game is relative to the players’ experience.
    I remember the first couple times playing GWT, 2nd Ed thinking this was WAY over my head. Now it pretty much bores me.

  • @scyldscefing3913
    @scyldscefing3913 21 час назад

    I picked up Lignum base on the recommendation on your previous heavy games recommendations. My wife and I both love it.

  • @stevewithington1787
    @stevewithington1787 16 часов назад +1

    Great lists (I’d have 4 in common with Johannes and 5 with Sunniva). Haven’t played Lignum or Madeira yet but would like to try both. Really expected Johannes to mention Feudum, but there are a lot of brilliant heavy games.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      Feudum is a hard one! I really like it, but the teach make it so hard to want to play it 😅

  • @jankogo
    @jankogo 7 часов назад +2

    Johannes: "We cover more heavy games than any other channel."
    Heavy Cardboard: "Hold my Beer!" 🤣

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      Hahahaha! If I said more than all, I meant more than most 😅

    • @Johannes_W
      @Johannes_W 4 часа назад

      Johannes said "(...)than many other channels" :P

  • @filiplazov5895
    @filiplazov5895 22 часа назад +1

    I would argue that Brass is a heavy game but many of us are so familiar with it and the theme is very well integtated. I feel the depth of decision making / planning is what makes it heavy to me.

  • @babydemon90
    @babydemon90 15 часов назад +1

    Great call on Madeira, although I like it's sister Nippon a little more.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      I also think I like Nippon a bit more, but it’s also a lot lighter, so it wouldn’t fit here for me :)

  • @Quickr86
    @Quickr86 5 часов назад +1

    For me, heavy game is any game that has 50+ pages rulebook, takes ages to setup and clean up and it takes better half of the day to play it thru. That being said.
    I'm not really fan of heavy games. Most of them feel like they are complicated just for the sake of being complicated. There's ton of "fast to learn" and/or "fast to setup" games out there that can offer a lot of fun and challenge. And since wife and I got kids I appreciate those kind of games even more.

  • @dqbrewer
    @dqbrewer 21 час назад +1

    IMHO, the best games are long and involved, that is, hard to teach and hard to get to the table. My favorite is "Die Macher." I got it to the table once, with six players, and it was an all-day affair. Everyone said they finished with a headache, but nobody had any other complaints. It's a huge commitment, though.
    Most of the games you mentioned are high on my list. You got me looking for a copy of Cooper Island and maybe Voidfall.

  • @dannyverbraeken7729
    @dannyverbraeken7729 19 часов назад

    Great list ! As a Lacerda fan, I also love to play On Mars, Inventions and The Gallerist. Other heavy games are Nucleum and Trismegistus.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад +1

      So many good games! 🥳

    • @Orcallo.
      @Orcallo. 17 часов назад

      Inventions is probably the heaviest Lacerda.

  • @WhereMyMeepsAt
    @WhereMyMeepsAt 21 час назад

    Ohhh. I like this list. Sometimes they seem overwhelming, but when you settle in, they hit! Brass is on my shelf of shame right now but it's coming off soon!

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад +1

      Ooooh! Hope you’ll love Brass! Thanks for watching!

    • @Deadomen123
      @Deadomen123 9 часов назад +1

      Brass is much lighter than other games on this list or BGG rating suggesting. But I would recommend printing an excellent, one page summary you can find from BGG file section.

    • @WhereMyMeepsAt
      @WhereMyMeepsAt 3 часа назад

      @ hmmmm. Thats great advice. I’ll check that out. Didn’t know about it!!!

  • @craigcameron3469
    @craigcameron3469 21 час назад

    There's some amazing gaming in those lists!

  • @Farbulous007
    @Farbulous007 21 час назад +2

    My quick and dirty definition of a heavy game is either a game that has very significant rules overhead, or an extremely difficult set of mechanics in order to accomplish goals or score points.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад +1

      Love it!

    • @coltonbeatty6117
      @coltonbeatty6117 15 часов назад

      On the other end of it, though... it doesn't make any sense to call Chess or Go 'light' games. Point being that 'Heavy' can/should refer to more than just rules overhead or multiplicity of mechanisms.

    • @Farbulous007
      @Farbulous007 15 часов назад

      @@coltonbeatty6117 thats a false dichotomy. No one is saying chess or go are light games.

    • @coltonbeatty6117
      @coltonbeatty6117 15 часов назад

      @@Farbulous007 Your definition called for "very significant rules overhead or difficult set of mechanics". Chess and Go have neither.

    • @Farbulous007
      @Farbulous007 15 часов назад

      ​@@coltonbeatty6117ummm... Ok? I guess that means I'm not saying that those are heavy games. You are allowed to think of it differently.

  • @dennissein2119
    @dennissein2119 2 часа назад

    No more Feudum?? Thought that was your #1!! My top 5 are:
    Through the Ages
    Lisboa
    Gaia Project
    Feast for Odin
    Anachrony

  • @-GrnDZer0-
    @-GrnDZer0- 21 час назад +2

    "Cause it's Ticket to Ride..". LOL

  • @MItoMATIC
    @MItoMATIC Час назад

    Both Lignum and Imperial Steam by same designer are so good games

  • @filiplazov5895
    @filiplazov5895 21 час назад

    Arkwright is amazing, the only downside I feel it really shines at 4. Great video :)

  • @domgrindncrank
    @domgrindncrank 4 часа назад

    Interesting to see that a lot of your choices are older titles

  • @talkingshelfspace
    @talkingshelfspace 7 часов назад

    Good list! For me, a heavy game is if I start to get headaches because the decisions are so difficult to make 😀 Some favourites: Antiquity, Indonesia, Kanban EV, Evacuation, John Company 2nd Edition, Horseless Carriage … by the way: Small City Deluxe Edition unfortunately had quite some production issues, worst cutting-offset I've seen in years. The graphics were like 2-3mm off centre on some tiles.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      Sad to hear about Small City Deluxe. I haven’t even opened our copy 😭

    • @talkingshelfspace
      @talkingshelfspace 5 часов назад

      @@BoardGamingRamblings Perhaps you are lucking and they are okay. Either way, time to open that box! 😀

  • @pm71241
    @pm71241 Час назад

    My favorite heavy game is probably "World in Flames"

  • @dickywoo
    @dickywoo 9 часов назад

    Voidfall is definitely my favorite heavy euro game.
    I am surprisedly Kanban wasn’t that” heavy “ after serval plays and teach with rookie.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      A lot of games feels less heavy the more you play them, and the more games you play in general!

  • @jamesbrazeal3847
    @jamesbrazeal3847 16 часов назад

    Love the list. I do not really play Heavy games. I max out medium. The Heaviest I have tried would be Gentes.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      Happy that you enjoyed it even though heavy isn’t your jam! :)

  • @martonferenci
    @martonferenci 22 часа назад

    Interesting and surprising list - that is good as I have discovered some unplayed chonky titles.

  • @OSB911
    @OSB911 22 часа назад

    "Everything you do is horrible." Immediately adds it to my "want to play" list.

  • @tonybowers9490
    @tonybowers9490 22 часа назад

    Thanks for sharing.
    I may not like heavy games given that I only have one of the many on your two lists.

  • @jankogo
    @jankogo 7 часов назад

    I would put Lisboa, Vinhos, Madeira, Nucleum, Tawantinsuyu and Carnegie on my list of top heavy games.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      Great choices! Thank you for sharing!

    • @jankogo
      @jankogo 5 часов назад

      @@BoardGamingRamblings No problem. I have got Feudum and Europa Universalis on the way. I am pretty sure they are gonna fit as well. 😅

  • @andrewprostakov5097
    @andrewprostakov5097 7 часов назад

    4. Twilight Imperium
    3. War of the Ring
    2. High Frontier
    1. Europa Universalis (abs. monster)

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад +1

      Great list! Haven’t played any of them 😅

    • @andrewprostakov5097
      @andrewprostakov5097 5 часов назад

      @@BoardGamingRamblings means you have a lot of fun ahead! I very much recommend them all. also, my deepest sympathies to one who will read the rules of #1 & 2 ;)

  • @MaSchmi
    @MaSchmi 20 часов назад

    my top heavy games: The good old Trickerion and for sure the upcoming stress botics

  • @tomlikeabomb6706
    @tomlikeabomb6706 22 часа назад +2

    Gaia Project should be so much higher lol =P

  • @kevinbrazee9545
    @kevinbrazee9545 22 часа назад +1

    Guessing - More than 1 Lacerda game on each of your lists?

  • @jogumby
    @jogumby 20 часов назад +1

    My idea of a heavy game is having as much if not more anxiety about what your opponents are doing as you do your own turn. I love it!!!

  • @heyheyjk-la
    @heyheyjk-la 20 часов назад

    I'm going to write all these down and keep the list so I know what games I never want to play! I've pretty much determined over the years that any game with a difficulty rating of over 3.5 is an absolute hard no for me. Between 3 and 3.5 I'll play if I like the theme or maybe the mechanics, but over 3.5 is more than my poor brain can handle!

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад

      Good to be of help that way as well 😅 Glad you have found out what games you like! 🤩

  • @-GrnDZer0-
    @-GrnDZer0- 20 часов назад +1

    I think I just learned my first Norwegian word "engtasannt" ?

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад +1

      Not too far off! Great job starting your journey to fluent Norwegian 😁

  • @bob2601
    @bob2601 3 часа назад

    Hi guys! I did not see Horseless Carriage.

  • @deglobi4524
    @deglobi4524 22 часа назад

    The mention of Madeira stings as I unfortunately backed the reprint years (2019) ago. So far the only board game that never deliverd, and sadly never will. :(

  • @par7me
    @par7me 16 часов назад

    We need to play games together. One day!

  • @caesarsihombing2822
    @caesarsihombing2822 15 часов назад

    Have you tried 'Indonesia' from splotter spellen games? really want to know what u guys think bout that. Love from Indonesia ❤

  • @pm71241
    @pm71241 2 часа назад

    So... Weather Machine? ... You say the interaction was increased. Do you mean player interaction? (Because, his games can suffer from lack thereof). Or do you mean the intricacy of mechanisms?

  • @dir3513
    @dir3513 18 часов назад

    For me the heavy games are
    Trismegistus
    Carnegie

  • @Orcallo.
    @Orcallo. 17 часов назад

    How do you prefer playing Evacuation? Race or points? Advanced or base actions? 🔥

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      I love it in every variant! I think I liked points with advanced cards the most!

  • @Vadjong
    @Vadjong 21 час назад

    My favorite heavy game is rhinoceros.

  • @bethnehme8402
    @bethnehme8402 14 часов назад

    I don't remember any Splotter games on the list. Not a fan?

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      I really like a few, but haven’t played them enough. Horseless Carriage is the only one we own, and I really like it!

  • @bgrule
    @bgrule 16 часов назад

    The list of top heavy games, without at least:
    1. Robinson Crusoe
    2. Frostpunk
    3. Gaia Project
    4. Cloudspire?
    Sorry, no. You should definitely play Gaia, before comparing it to Age of Innovation. And try Stellar Horizons and Hoplomachus. There's more to gaming than Lacerda.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      We don’t love a lot of coops, and we don’t play solo, so there goes three of them for us, hehe :)
      I have played Gaia Project 8 times, and love it to bits, but it didn’t fit on this list for me! :)
      Glad we can all have our own favorites 🥳

    • @bgrule
      @bgrule 3 часа назад

      @@BoardGamingRamblings , you are entitled to like your games. That's fine. Title of the video should be then "Top 10 heavy games we like/prefer", not just "Top 10 heavy games". I was under the impression you were making a commercial for Lacerda by overlooking some great game designs. There are people watching your clips who are actually going to try some of these games out. And I think it's a shame not to mention these really iconic designs - no matter whether someone likes them personally or not.

  • @elqord.1118
    @elqord.1118 9 часов назад

    I wish I would love Lisboa more. But the shipping and resource value track both feel so underdeveloped for my taste. I will never understand why the resource value ever only goes down. I will also never understand why the ship aspect feels so tacked on. I would play Kanban EV over Lisboa any time of the day because every aspect feels like it needs to be exactly where it is

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      I will always love it, but luckily there are enough awesome games for everyone 😁

  • @Zalasta524
    @Zalasta524 59 минут назад

    I hope you have tried 18xx at least, because I’d take issue with people that claim to be heavy gamers but haven’t even played anything from that subset of games.

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  27 минут назад

      We have played a few! I (Johannes) like most I have played, but they usually end up the the «too much work» category for Sunniva :)

  • @kevinbrazee9545
    @kevinbrazee9545 22 часа назад +1

    You love all your children (boardgames)the same except for ones you love more. 😉

  • @sohodt1
    @sohodt1 10 часов назад

    Twilight Imperium not on your top ten? Unreal

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      Never played, and will probably never play! Part of me want to play it once to have experienced it, but I know myself enough to know I will probably not enjoy myself a lot. 😅

  • @julianthor4988
    @julianthor4988 Час назад

    I think Lignum is a very ugly but phenomenal game. But i don‘t think it is that hard of a game. It is very straight forward.

  • @Carsten_de_1981
    @Carsten_de_1981 22 часа назад +7

    Nice list. But Gaia Project > Age of Innovation. ;)

    • @Mentat1231
      @Mentat1231 22 часа назад +2

      I haven't tried AoI, but GP is my favorite game of all time.

    • @craigcameron3469
      @craigcameron3469 21 час назад +2

      Yeah, Gaia Project is just so good. The expansion is excellent too.

    • @seanschelin243
      @seanschelin243 21 час назад +3

      I personally like Age of Innovation more! My girlfriend and I have both, and she likes Gaia Project more so we both play them equally as often anyway :D

    • @Mentat1231
      @Mentat1231 21 час назад

      @@seanschelin243
      Can I ask you a question? If my wife didn't love Gaia Project, is there a chance she'll like Age of Innovation? Like, is it sufficiently distinct that I should even try it?

    • @seanschelin243
      @seanschelin243 21 час назад

      @ Well it depends what she didn’t like about Gaia Project :) What didn't she like about GP?

  • @marcosseven8872
    @marcosseven8872 20 часов назад

    My favourite heavy games are:
    Lisboa
    The Gallerist
    Brass: Birmingham
    Golem
    Barrage
    I haven’t played many of the games you have in your lists

  • @icex7312
    @icex7312 21 час назад +1

    Has Pfister pfallen out of pfavor? Shocked there was no room for Boonlake, Maracaibo, or Great Western Trail: New Zealand. Shocked, I tell ya, just shocked!

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  18 часов назад

      Love Pfister, but I don’t feel like any of his games are that heavy!

  • @coltonbeatty6117
    @coltonbeatty6117 15 часов назад

    The Lacerdas are garbage

    • @BoardGamingRamblings
      @BoardGamingRamblings  6 часов назад

      I’m happy we can all have different opinions :) What are some of your favorite heavy games?