Frankly he's correct. If you sell a product as "As is for parts" you don't need to disclose everything wrong with it. That's not how the system works. The fact you listed it for parts means nothing has to work. Now if they disclose something as working in the description and it doesn't that's an issue. Like the claim of it being a touch screen if it's not. That's a problem. the hinge isn't.
Agreed. For parts might as well be for the keyboard caps. It's nice if a seller tells you this. But it's not required and often sites like ebay will side with the seller.
even if its sold for parts why would someone salvage a bios locked motherboard and sell it also the false advertising someone would have wanted a touch screen display for a replacment or selling
@@itzdisky I'm not sure why you are commenting on my post with that. I straight out said it not being a touch screen when it claimed to be is a problem. Nothing else is really.
@@itzdisky Again a seller isn't obligated to do that. If you sell something as is for parts often times it's because you don't know what the working condition is or because the item was broken. If you can't turn it on how would you know the bios is locked? It's a risk you take when you buy something for parts. Unless something is specifically stated to be working in a specific way you have to assume it's not. It's the entire reason the category exits.
That's disappointing, sometimes sellers miss things in the description. A few times I've had a bios lock I've actually been able to guess the password. I try *blank* ,1234,password. On my x201 was not so lucky. I could have returned it, but it was is such good condition i decided to keep it, and i was able to unlock it by jumping two pins on the bios chip.
Forgot to mention this, the seller shows the BIOS page in the listing so they must've known but never mentioned it. Shady stuff. .. On the older ThinkPad's (xx40-xx80) you can bypass the BIOS password via CH341 programmer with Badcaps Lenovo AutoPatcher . Might try it in a later vid. BTW love your vids, keep em coming 👍
i got lucky with my t470. i got it for $20 usd and had nothing wrong with it. all i did was upgrade the ram to 16gb and now i use it for random projects i do.
I think its bad luck, I got an a285 for £100 and it was absolute fine! Honestly, I brought it on ebay from a sponsored seller, it looked sketchy af but the laptop came and it was totally fine. I love it.
A lot of these Thinkpads on ebay are ex corporate, so have bios locked. Some of them have had a hard life and are not worth it. But every now and again you can find a good one.
What a shame, that laptop looked like an excellent project. I bought a thinkpad a485 for 200 dollars with a charger included, more or less, I bought it because it was in better condition than the old one I had (the poor thing was falling apart, I had had it for a few years already) The chassis is a little broken and somewhat bent, but otherwise it is wonderful; a ryzen 5 2500 pro with 16 gb ram and 256 gb disk. It is a good PC for developers, which is what I work on, the disk is filling up but I will soon buy a 500 GB one to replace it
I returned 2 laptops in the past few weeks for the same reason, BIOS lock. eBay and Cash Converters. A third return because a RAM slot was dodgy... Luck of the draw. However I got a great L480 which makes a great Hackintosh and upgraded to wifi 6e ax210ngf with 32gb.
Hate it when sellers don't disclose full details. It's almost like they try to hide it from less experienced buyers hoping they never notice. eBay is prolific for this.
@@cephacore Yes. These secure permanent BIOS passwords are a real PITA with laptops where removing the CMOS battery does nothing and contribute to unnecessary e-waste. OK sure they are usually fine if you can just reinstall windows but any fine tuning or for other OS is a no-go.
You should also check if computrace (or other anti theft tool) is enabled in the BIOS, if enabled+activated the laptop can be tracked by the company who owned it. 2:18 should be in Security/Absolute Persistence Module.
the fact that lenovo still ships TN panels of such low quality in their laptops is shameful I DON'T CARE if it's a budget variant, there's no reason to ship such a crap screen in such an expensive laptop. the macbook air M1 is $600 there's no excuse.
Exactly, although I think they've stopped it with their newer laptops. Still, for such an expensive laptop a TN panel is mad.. it was almost unusable in certain cases.
he is the reason I dont sell stuff on ebay anymore buy something cleary sold as is for a fraction of what is worth and still bitching about it!! good grief dude
if it ain't described accurately then sorry I don't want it. I think you don't realise the severity of BIOS locks, it should be the FIRST thing you mention in the description.
Frankly he's correct. If you sell a product as "As is for parts" you don't need to disclose everything wrong with it. That's not how the system works. The fact you listed it for parts means nothing has to work. Now if they disclose something as working in the description and it doesn't that's an issue. Like the claim of it being a touch screen if it's not. That's a problem. the hinge isn't.
Agreed. For parts might as well be for the keyboard caps. It's nice if a seller tells you this. But it's not required and often sites like ebay will side with the seller.
even if its sold for parts why would someone salvage a bios locked motherboard and sell it also the false advertising someone would have wanted a touch screen display for a replacment or selling
@@itzdisky I'm not sure why you are commenting on my post with that. I straight out said it not being a touch screen when it claimed to be is a problem. Nothing else is really.
@@exturkconner there is the bios lock the seller could have atleast gave password or said it was bios locked from the beginning
@@itzdisky Again a seller isn't obligated to do that. If you sell something as is for parts often times it's because you don't know what the working condition is or because the item was broken. If you can't turn it on how would you know the bios is locked? It's a risk you take when you buy something for parts. Unless something is specifically stated to be working in a specific way you have to assume it's not. It's the entire reason the category exits.
That's disappointing, sometimes sellers miss things in the description. A few times I've had a bios lock I've actually been able to guess the password. I try *blank* ,1234,password. On my x201 was not so lucky. I could have returned it, but it was is such good condition i decided to keep it, and i was able to unlock it by jumping two pins on the bios chip.
Forgot to mention this, the seller shows the BIOS page in the listing so they must've known but never mentioned it. Shady stuff. .. On the older ThinkPad's (xx40-xx80) you can bypass the BIOS password via CH341 programmer with Badcaps Lenovo AutoPatcher . Might try it in a later vid. BTW love your vids, keep em coming 👍
i got lucky with my t470. i got it for $20 usd and had nothing wrong with it. all i did was upgrade the ram to 16gb and now i use it for random projects i do.
damn that's very lucky. nice find 👌
I think its bad luck, I got an a285 for £100 and it was absolute fine! Honestly, I brought it on ebay from a sponsored seller, it looked sketchy af but the laptop came and it was totally fine. I love it.
That's great to hear, the A series ThinkPads are quite cool tbh
A lot of these Thinkpads on ebay are ex corporate, so have bios locked. Some of them have had a hard life and are not worth it. But every now and again you can find a good one.
Yep I get that, it was the seller's responsibility to inform that beforehand.
What a shame, that laptop looked like an excellent project.
I bought a thinkpad a485 for 200 dollars with a charger included, more or less, I bought it because it was in better condition than the old one I had (the poor thing was falling apart, I had had it for a few years already)
The chassis is a little broken and somewhat bent, but otherwise it is wonderful; a ryzen 5 2500 pro with 16 gb ram and 256 gb disk. It is a good PC for developers, which is what I work on, the disk is filling up but I will soon buy a 500 GB one to replace it
Completely forgot they made those, the A series thinkpads are quite cool. Might make a vid on one 😄
I returned 2 laptops in the past few weeks for the same reason, BIOS lock. eBay and Cash Converters. A third return because a RAM slot was dodgy... Luck of the draw. However I got a great L480 which makes a great Hackintosh and upgraded to wifi 6e ax210ngf with 32gb.
Hate it when sellers don't disclose full details. It's almost like they try to hide it from less experienced buyers hoping they never notice. eBay is prolific for this.
@@cephacore Yes. These secure permanent BIOS passwords are a real PITA with laptops where removing the CMOS battery does nothing and contribute to unnecessary e-waste. OK sure they are usually fine if you can just reinstall windows but any fine tuning or for other OS is a no-go.
You should also check if computrace (or other anti theft tool) is enabled in the BIOS, if enabled+activated the laptop can be tracked by the company who owned it.
2:18 should be in Security/Absolute Persistence Module.
I checked, it says Enabled but not active. So at some point it must've been. Unfortunately it doesn't resolve the bios lock
the fact that lenovo still ships TN panels of such low quality in their laptops is shameful
I DON'T CARE if it's a budget variant, there's no reason to ship such a crap screen in such an expensive laptop. the macbook air M1 is $600 there's no excuse.
Exactly, although I think they've stopped it with their newer laptops. Still, for such an expensive laptop a TN panel is mad.. it was almost unusable in certain cases.
Good gaming performance !
Bro i bought 10$ thinkpad with single core processor which now become my daily driver
Wow that's cool, surprised how a single core CPU can run these days. Nice
Would love to see you upgrade a old socketed or not laptop and see how it can perfrom in todays world and see if its usable or not. 🙂
Great idea. I'll have a look to see if I can do that 👌
Since it has bios lock, how are you able to go into the bios?
you can view the bios by enter. you just can't change any settings
i would try to fix the bios lock somehow and change the whole body and display
Would love to know how, ik with the older thinkpads it's much easier to remove the bios lock.
@@cephacore iirc you need to flash the bios with the newer ones
Beautiful
Please dont be discouraged from buying from ebay, the buyer protection is brilliant and your very likely to get a refund if you engage karen mode.
he is the reason I dont sell stuff on ebay anymore buy something cleary sold as is for a fraction of what is worth and still bitching about it!! good grief dude
if it ain't described accurately then sorry I don't want it. I think you don't realise the severity of BIOS locks, it should be the FIRST thing you mention in the description.