Man love the gems you drop in your videos me and a buddy were just talking about the tc9 motors and the history a few days ago after he bought a hcca 10. Keep them coming pat.
Should have went to robot underground would have got all the awesomeness they could have handled i bought around 4 subs from Pat not to mention batteries and a lot of zero awg he tell you like it is and preety much is on point . He will even give you work he pays you above minimum wage think 20 an hour in store credit so someone that wants a sys and doesnt have in there budget, few hours a week, in a month be shaking up your block, with the best subs you will ever hear, he makes his subs to your liking he ask you what you want to spend and how you like your bass . My boy Patrick is a good dude and a friend of mines car audio brought us toghether .
Hey man, I picked up 2 of these exact 8 Series Eclipse subs, I had to drive over an hour and half each way, but for $200 bux, 2 12" Aluminum 8 Series, a box and A DB drive SPA "1200 Watt" amp ( fused w/ 2 30 watt fuses!? Lol :( ), these slamm. Very happy. Keep up the gr8 vids Pat!
There are definitely higher and lower grade Chinese steel. Used to have family water well drilling business and the steel casing we would get from China sometimes would be very different from others. Most of the time Chinese steel was softer. Korean steel casing was much stronger and always good.
Ive still got a number of the eclipse tc9s the the old sound splinter triple stacks. Couple versions of the 3hp along with the neos then the old tight gap sigs and a bunch of old tc2 motors. I like tc stuff wish thiloh was a better business man
Also have some tc7s Then I had the old Memphis you mentioned definitely a tc 9 inspired motor sold it a while back then saw it at a pawn shop nearby recently
It's big but expensive in my opinion. Especially being made in China. Actual cost should have been around $165 each so they should retail for around $350-$400 with normal margins.
@@RobotUnderground So I currently have a Brahma and love it.... been running brahmas since the mid 00, but it's more of an SQ based build. I have another vehicle (SUV) that I want to do a new build in and I have 12-15 cubes net to work with so I was thinking a pair of 18's. I have a pair of ascendant Havoc 15's, which I believe were built by NCA labs, and an Ascendant Avalanche 18. The havocs came unglued at the spider spacer, but would be fine if I reglued it, but I was thinking of just getting those rebuilt into 18's. The avalanche was over powered and probably needs reconed..... you wouldn't by chance know how to get ahold of an avalanche motor so I could run a pair? Another option is just to grab a new pair of 18's..... I'd definitely be interested in running a pair of brahma 18's if you have any brahma motors... sorry for the wall of text... is there a good way to contact you to discuss?
@@mikewalker4950 The Havoc and Avalanche are built by Fi there in Vegas. Hit up the guys at AA to see if they'll sell you just a motor.. Maybe something used or whatever. Both those motors are better than anything that Adire ever built, even the Tumult. I'd just stick with those since we're not all made of money. I've been campaigning that SQL is just overkill, deep playing bass.. Which it is... But when people still want number, I'm out. Numbers are a different game and nobody has the budget to get 160db @ 30Hz.
RobotUnderground these are old gen 1s the avalanche was built by Scott, but it was destijl in the re days and xbl. I guess I could ask if there was a motor laying around but I doubt it. The havoc is gen 1 before Scott bought AA from chad. It was made by NCA and was a very low quantity run. I believe the motor is similiar to one of the older mojos with the orange 12 spoke and original IA DP. I can’t even find any images online so I’ll have to go take a pic when I’m at my storage unit. Maybe buying 18” baskets and recones would be the way to go for those.
Everyone always says car audio subs are not efficient enough for pa use. I've always thought they get plenty loud in cars and they play way deeper then pa subs.
It depends on what size and what features you want Go ahead and text me direct and let me know your name and your shipping address and we can go over your options 602-312-6504 Go ahead and text me pictures of the side view of the subwoofer that you have
@@RobotUnderground awesome I was running them on my truck but there beautiful to not have them in my leaving room thanks a lot for responding really appreciate it in case I wore to burn 1 of them by accident were could I repair them ?
Haha "THAT'S IT!" Your "shortcut claims" are wild nonsense. When building a sound system, of course we look into the car audio. It is just that it is not feasible. The goodie drivers are more expensive than PA, one needs commercial repeatability, and also efficiency, because not every place has 100kW mains for you. Upper range of PA drivers now hang at Xmax around 15mm which is fine for 40Hz and flat final response, and at 30Hz you have box tuning where the cone barely moves anyways. In Europe, you can't get much for under $500 in car audio department.
I still have my very old tc-9 prototype (paper cone dual 2ohm) and it still sounds excellent, love this sub in a smaller sealed box!
Sundown puts a ton of steal on there crap they just make it look nice with the Crome and everyone’s like awwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhh!!!😂😂😂😂💙🍻💪🔥😎
Man love the gems you drop in your videos me and a buddy were just talking about the tc9 motors and the history a few days ago after he bought a hcca 10. Keep them coming pat.
Got them in the trunk right now the eclipse 15 dvc 4ohm.
Yes i remember the guy from psi nice dude
I used to drool over them eclipses alum subs back in the 90s it was so fucking expensive.
For the price of one I had four pyramid pw15120us 15”
The sunfire true subs is what sparked my addiction to audio when I was young
I have an eD E12A that was a test sample with alum backing on the flat cone. It has the dual 1" Tc9 with 4spoke :)
Thanks for the video
Till this day I'm mad I sold my old 8 series 12" Eclipse sub. Loved the SQ when I had it.. and that Alum cone was classic 90s 😆
We'll come up with something better
I still got mine almost 20 plus years
@@sirsnappz5307 thars dope man keep that mug!!
The side mount top assembly setup is fire.
really enjoy watching your videos.....
👍
Should have went to robot underground would have got all the awesomeness they could have handled i bought around 4 subs from Pat not to mention batteries and a lot of zero awg he tell you like it is and preety much is on point . He will even give you work he pays you above minimum wage think 20 an hour in store credit so someone that wants a sys and doesnt have in there budget, few hours a week, in a month be shaking up your block, with the best subs you will ever hear, he makes his subs to your liking he ask you what you want to spend and how you like your bass . My boy Patrick is a good dude and a friend of mines car audio brought us toghether .
Hey man, I picked up 2 of these exact 8 Series Eclipse subs, I had to drive over an hour and half each way, but for $200 bux, 2 12" Aluminum 8 Series, a box and A DB drive SPA "1200 Watt" amp ( fused w/ 2 30 watt fuses!? Lol :( ), these slamm. Very happy. Keep up the gr8 vids Pat!
Very nice!
Wonderful video Patrick very informative man I always learn new exciting information and stuff from you please keep up the awesome videos my bro😊🏆👌♥️
Thanks 👍
I am officially a fucking subwoofer need I can't turn these videos off . Man you got me fucked up with watching these love em
There are definitely higher and lower grade Chinese steel. Used to have family water well drilling business and the steel casing we would get from China sometimes would be very different from others. Most of the time Chinese steel was softer. Korean steel casing was much stronger and always good.
"Does it bump- fucking shut up" 😝🤣
these used to be my favorite platform to build with
Ive still got a number of the eclipse tc9s the the old sound splinter triple stacks. Couple versions of the 3hp along with the neos then the old tight gap sigs and a bunch of old tc2 motors.
I like tc stuff wish thiloh was a better business man
Also have some tc7s
Then I had the old Memphis you mentioned definitely a tc 9 inspired motor sold it a while back then saw it at a pawn shop nearby recently
@@666nacirema666 so you got any eclipse subs you wanting to part with
@@beefysghost867 i sell locally its generally not worth the hassle to ship them out of state
Do you have a replacement surround or something that will fit a 12” aluminum?
It depends on the pitch of the cone. Text me pics, 6023126504
Do you got any eclipse stuff? Been trying to find some
Nope. Just old parts from here and there.
Im a proud owner of a zv5 three slug motor.
Cool. Thank you for the confirmation.
I had the titanium tens they were Beaufort looking than those they were the punchiest tand low down bass I had heard at that time oh the memories..
Question? What do you think about the motor on an Resilient Sound onyx 12?
It's big but expensive in my opinion. Especially being made in China. Actual cost should have been around $165 each so they should retail for around $350-$400 with normal margins.
But how good or bad do you think it is and do you think it can hand exactly or more than is RMS or NAX?
I mean Max.. lol damm Siri
@@antjuanrivera I just think that there are other options in the market that will do the same or better for less money.
And witch ones would they be?
Just curious about your opinion of Digital Design?
Overpriced version of their sister brand, SoundQubed / AudioQubed.
David Moore is the name you weren't able to remember.
Have any XBL^2 motors that can be built and purchased? Ohhhh or some LMS coils?
Only two of the big 4" LMS coils left and they're $200 each shipped. Yes I can build you big XBL motors if you'd like.
@@RobotUnderground So I currently have a Brahma and love it.... been running brahmas since the mid 00, but it's more of an SQ based build. I have another vehicle (SUV) that I want to do a new build in and I have 12-15 cubes net to work with so I was thinking a pair of 18's. I have a pair of ascendant Havoc 15's, which I believe were built by NCA labs, and an Ascendant Avalanche 18. The havocs came unglued at the spider spacer, but would be fine if I reglued it, but I was thinking of just getting those rebuilt into 18's. The avalanche was over powered and probably needs reconed..... you wouldn't by chance know how to get ahold of an avalanche motor so I could run a pair? Another option is just to grab a new pair of 18's..... I'd definitely be interested in running a pair of brahma 18's if you have any brahma motors... sorry for the wall of text... is there a good way to contact you to discuss?
@@mikewalker4950 The Havoc and Avalanche are built by Fi there in Vegas. Hit up the guys at AA to see if they'll sell you just a motor.. Maybe something used or whatever. Both those motors are better than anything that Adire ever built, even the Tumult. I'd just stick with those since we're not all made of money. I've been campaigning that SQL is just overkill, deep playing bass.. Which it is... But when people still want number, I'm out. Numbers are a different game and nobody has the budget to get 160db @ 30Hz.
RobotUnderground these are old gen 1s the avalanche was built by Scott, but it was destijl in the re days and xbl. I guess I could ask if there was a motor laying around but I doubt it. The havoc is gen 1 before Scott bought AA from chad. It was made by NCA and was a very low quantity run. I believe the motor is similiar to one of the older mojos with the orange 12 spoke and original IA DP. I can’t even find any images online so I’ll have to go take a pic when I’m at my storage unit. Maybe buying 18” baskets and recones would be the way to go for those.
Everyone always says car audio subs are not efficient enough for pa use. I've always thought they get plenty loud in cars and they play way deeper then pa subs.
Even using cheap ones is a MUCH better value. Power is cheap now so sensitivity is BS.
Is 28.9 a good bl for a 12 sub??
Lol ! Yes that's excellent. Anything in the '20s is great
Am from Cali San Diego when I was 16.there was some guy asking a.bunch of eclipse woofer 10s 12s and 18s yes 18s
Yep. Saturated that town.
I have 2 Orion hcca 15s from 1999/00 with broken baskets. Could you rebuild with new baskets?
Sure. Do you want them as 12's or as 15's again? Text me back direct, 6023126504
@@RobotUnderground quik question i just bought 2 tc9 12" can I use them for car or Home theater ? And are they good in very low notes ?
@@thesecretlife1982 Great subs for most any application. Home theater or car. Just make sure you observe the impedance of whatever amp you're using.
Thank you
How much for parts to rebuild these?
It depends on what size and what features you want Go ahead and text me direct and let me know your name and your shipping address and we can go over your options 602-312-6504 Go ahead and text me pictures of the side view of the subwoofer that you have
I still have a tc-9 and tc-7 with both qca's. I'm looking to recone them.
Sounds good. You can just disconnect them and send in the tops. 720 W. Southern Ave., Mesa, AZ 85210
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@@RobotUnderground great job i came across 2,, tc-9 12" can i use this guy's for home theater i heard you can but not sure ?
@@thesecretlife1982 YEs, those would be insane for home theater. Really on par with the best Velodyne could offer.
@@RobotUnderground awesome I was running them on my truck but there beautiful to not have them in my leaving room thanks a lot for responding really appreciate it in case I wore to burn 1 of them by accident were could I repair them ?
@@thesecretlife1982 Sure, Very simple recone kit or you can detach and send it into me. If I do the repair here, I can give a 3yr warranty on it.
Jacob covers some of his drivers with a rubber type resin to get some if his custom woofers to play lower and hit harder..
lol. That's adding mass if anything.
@@RobotUnderground I have to make my way down to your area and spend some time learning with you
@@MyBlowncobra save time and watch the old videos.
@@RobotUnderground I have.
Haha "THAT'S IT!" Your "shortcut claims" are wild nonsense. When building a sound system, of course we look into the car audio. It is just that it is not feasible. The goodie drivers are more expensive than PA, one needs commercial repeatability, and also efficiency, because not every place has 100kW mains for you. Upper range of PA drivers now hang at Xmax around 15mm which is fine for 40Hz and flat final response, and at 30Hz you have box tuning where the cone barely moves anyways. In Europe, you can't get much for under $500 in car audio department.