Some important notes! First of all, congratulation to the Apex Calendar giveaway winner: Björn Bornholdt ! Please email info@apex-nuerburg.com to claim it! Next, for people who look at the numbers only, this shows that a remap is essential to unlock the exhaust benefits/potential. As demonstrated by Thilo who is running 4xx HP on his Cupra with a Milltek Exhaust: ruclips.net/video/miHNpTb3utM/видео.html And something that we will do in the future, although not 4xx hp :)
Great video as always and thanks for doing the dyno run before and after! I think you would have got away easily within your own rules to just have the rear silencer and the resonator or middle muffler / silencer as you call it without the additional 3rd box. That's made it even quiter than it was stock and negated the extra size larger you went due to 3 restrictions... it sounded better stock sorry to say.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but you should disable the sound generator (sound aktor) to hear the real engine sound without artificial sounds :)
@@Blasterxp its not a fake mp3 sound piped into the cabin... its not played through the speakers its a sound actuator that ironically vibrates the windscreen.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the artificial pops and bangs? I recently watched a video from Throttle House comparing the new RS5 to the old one with the NA V8 and that sounded so much nicer. Not just because of the engine arrangement, but it was clean, just the revs going up and down.
Also engine and turbo response is enhanced by a less restrictive exhaust system. and i agree in not needing to remap/tune a customer/taxi car, along with the stock map already being so clean and efficient
I ran my gti mk7 with a cat back from milltek.. Few months later I went catless and straight pipe...+stage 2. The cold starts in the morning are an automatic smile guarantee!
Statistically insignificant as it's not a guaranteed level playing field on different days. In general exhaust systems are a "supporting mod" you do ready for a new tune... it allows more flow of air. Mots modern sports cars have pretty good exhausts and most manufacturers don't waste power with a sub standard exhaust with the standard tune. I love Miltek tips and their lovery shiny mufflers.
Well I guess you guys have a deal with milltek and I'm not complaining about the video but I hope we can all agree that this mod doesn't give you the most bang for the buck. Getting a legal 200cpi catted downpipe will reduce backpressure drastically and also give you a better sound experience. Your comment about the loss of baxkpressure leading to less power also only applies to n/a engines since the turbo gives you enough backpressure. But the tips sure look a lot nicer and 90% of customers probably will consider that car to be better than a cupra with a stock exhaust just by the looks of it.
Looks like the boot wasn't closed during the last sound check. That isn't the standard we're used to. Nice exhaust. Not to blame for modern engines lack of soul :)
Back in the day we achieved a lot with stickers...😂 But, yes this unnecessary fake sound + the pops and bangs are quite juvenile. Each to their own, but stealth is my preference. That does not mean it's neutered.
Often when we fit aftermarket parts to vehicles like Exhausts & or intake mods you actually see a slight reduction in power because the operating conditions of the motor move to a different area in the ECU maps and retards the timing... yes remaps are essential when putting bolt ons on your engine
Gooood morning Misha.. Upgraded the Cupra exhaust system hey? NiCE One bro, the cars got some extra grunt & abit of "Growl" to the engine sound!..I LiKE it ! Wonder what she produces when u rechip the motor? Is that next on the agenda? George is da BEST mate to have on a rebuild project..someone who dosnt bullshit & really knows his stuff= a COOL dude!! 👍👍🙂👍👍 Thanx for the update Misha. Lookin forward to seeing the finished project strut its thing onda track! LOVE Ya Work 💕 Godbless & hava g'day 🙂
Hey Misha, i‘m realy excited about whats happening to the cupra, you are doing it right 👌🏼! Is there a video upcoming about rims & tires? Original, due to the big Brembo brakes, the cupra is running on 19“ wheels. But your cupra & I think Thilos cupra are running on 18“ whells, i guess🤷🏼♂️ Can you compare the size and give some information about advantage & disadvantage of driving 18“ wheels? Thank you for the beautiful content 😊 keep going👋🏻
Great tech content, love the versatile nature of your vids, It would be sweet to see you lap some of our Aussie rigs in my part of the world, The Land of Oz
Less hp..weird, I got more on mine. But my dyno guy also calculates hp after an average of 5-7 pulls, not from one..who pulls once IRL..? after 5-7 pulls the heat becomes a definitive factor and the OEM loose big hp after each pull since the turbo get so hot because of the restrictions in OEM exhaust. It gets hot with the milltek too but not even close to the OEM loss in numbers.. Nice vid Misha..hope you guys will enjoy the drone sound in the car at 130kmh😂😂😉
"Pops and bangs...kinda douchey. " You captured it perfectly imo. Over the pond guys here are sacrificing performance and wear and tear, possible damage for all the pOpS aNd BaNgS. Haha
any relaability mods ? not sure about this engine but the 2015 S3/golf R and up had some bad timing problems because the tensionner was plastic and with heat cycling it becomes brittle and shatters causing a catastrohpic engine failure even on stock cars, there are some replacement parts made from billet aluminium to prevent the problem
well least you kept decent power, i've helped lots of friends fit aftermarket exhausts and seen up to 10BHP lost with some turbo cars as the ECU Detects a change and restricts the power like it thinks its running low-grade fuel.
Very interesting to see the changes to the Cupra. Will the cage be the main thing that does stiffen the car or will there also be other things like welding or other struts?
I cant remember ! Have you ever made comments on road racers. People driving hard outside The track. 😎 Dont be so mad Misha, it’s just a joke, you know for fun,. It is 2020 and ewery thing sucks, there are only The fun we make our self.
That wooshing sound from the new exhaust, sounds quite restrictive. Seems a backwards step to go larger pipe, more mufflers, be quieter (due to more restrictive mufflers), likely heavier? and if anything, lose power. Would be interesting to see a comparison of it tuned with the factory exhaust, vs tuned with the new exhaust.
Such a pity because of the EU and TUV regulations. It's quieter with the Miltek exhaust than stock. I have the BullX resonated with rear silencers exhaust on my Cupra 280, also TUV approved and it's so silent that my friends ask me when will I get an exhaust, as they think it's stock because of how civilized it sounds haha
It"s interesting to me how similar the underside of that car is to my MK1 Focus....odd. On another note ...are you using Thilo's car as a blueprint for your's?
You guy work at lightning speed. Others car influencers will take 1 week to choose the exhaust and 1 week to install it and still get some kind of problem so has to switch back to the old system
You can replace it, but it needs to be ECE certified. Companies like HJS offer sport cats (mostly 200/300 cell) which are allowed by Tüv for road use here in Germany
delete the middle resonator for better sound... it's only for the pre wltp cars... my golf r with opf it hasn't middle resonator....only has at the back because the two opf filters
This "upgrade" it's not worth it at all for me. Even the sound is worst not to mention the lost of HP. Yea after remap it will have difference but it will have with the stock exhaust also. I hope that Milltek has sponsored that video. That's my 2cents about it.
Some important notes! First of all, congratulation to the Apex Calendar giveaway winner: Björn Bornholdt
! Please email info@apex-nuerburg.com to claim it!
Next, for people who look at the numbers only, this shows that a remap is essential to unlock the exhaust benefits/potential.
As demonstrated by Thilo who is running 4xx HP on his Cupra with a Milltek Exhaust: ruclips.net/video/miHNpTb3utM/видео.html
And something that we will do in the future, although not 4xx hp :)
Congratulation to the winner!
Will it be the 5xx ?
Great video as always and thanks for doing the dyno run before and after! I think you would have got away easily within your own rules to just have the rear silencer and the resonator or middle muffler / silencer as you call it without the additional 3rd box. That's made it even quiter than it was stock and negated the extra size larger you went due to 3 restrictions... it sounded better stock sorry to say.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but you should disable the sound generator (sound aktor) to hear the real engine sound without artificial sounds :)
Yeah, no more fake mp3 sound. Good comment!
@@Blasterxp its not a fake mp3 sound piped into the cabin... its not played through the speakers its a sound actuator that ironically vibrates the windscreen.
Currently in the USA and drive a 2016 7R I do have the sound aktor turned off, eom downpipe, xforce catback.
Should be on the list of weightsaving!
4:20 Polo sedan? Misha thats a jetta 😁
Am I the only one who doesn't like the artificial pops and bangs? I recently watched a video from Throttle House comparing the new RS5 to the old one with the NA V8 and that sounded so much nicer. Not just because of the engine arrangement, but it was clean, just the revs going up and down.
But an NA V8 with subtle pops and bangs would sound even better 😜
Love the confidence when said polo sedan lol
Liked the stock one better. If i wanna rent it than i would prefer pops and bangs as a customer. It makes experience more better and exciting.
It's so quiet... i feel like it sounded better with the stock one, maybe remove that pesky silencer?😇
Shhhhhh i will keep the secret
Defo
I felt the same way
Can’t wait for these sort of vids with the Yaris great vid as always! 👌🏻🤟🏻
Also engine and turbo response is enhanced by a less restrictive exhaust system. and i agree in not needing to remap/tune a customer/taxi car, along with the stock map already being so clean and efficient
I ran my gti mk7 with a cat back from milltek.. Few months later I went catless and straight pipe...+stage 2.
The cold starts in the morning are an automatic smile guarantee!
Statistically insignificant as it's not a guaranteed level playing field on different days.
In general exhaust systems are a "supporting mod" you do ready for a new tune... it allows more flow of air.
Mots modern sports cars have pretty good exhausts and most manufacturers don't waste power with a sub standard exhaust with the standard tune. I love Miltek tips and their lovery shiny mufflers.
It looks and sounds better, but I expected it to be a bit louder tbh. I know about the tuv, but didn't know that it was so strict regarding decibels.
4:21 That's a Jetta
No. Polo sedan haha
My ears itched when he said that. Mindfuck right? Haha
Scooter is highlight of this vlog.
I was pretty much bang on with my guess of 303.9 WHP figure 😎
pretty epic to see 325hp at the engine instead of 300 ! makes me want one even harder !
Well I guess you guys have a deal with milltek and I'm not complaining about the video but I hope we can all agree that this mod doesn't give you the most bang for the buck. Getting a legal 200cpi catted downpipe will reduce backpressure drastically and also give you a better sound experience. Your comment about the loss of baxkpressure leading to less power also only applies to n/a engines since the turbo gives you enough backpressure. But the tips sure look a lot nicer and 90% of customers probably will consider that car to be better than a cupra with a stock exhaust just by the looks of it.
Looks like the boot wasn't closed during the last sound check. That isn't the standard we're used to. Nice exhaust. Not to blame for modern engines lack of soul :)
Really interesting to see from start to finish on how to build a renter ring taxi.
It actually sounded better before installing the new exhaust system
Couldn’t disagree more
Maybe i am second(beside you Misha) about the performance of that drag Yamaha;)
You went from 2 silencers to 3 silencers with the miltek, did you really expect a better sound?
Parts and Dyno Time! I love it!
Back in the day we achieved a lot with stickers...😂
But, yes this unnecessary fake sound + the pops and bangs are quite juvenile.
Each to their own, but stealth is my preference. That does not mean it's neutered.
Often when we fit aftermarket parts to vehicles like Exhausts & or intake mods you actually see a slight reduction in power because the operating conditions of the motor move to a different area in the ECU maps and retards the timing...
yes remaps are essential when putting bolt ons on your engine
On older cars yes, not on these newer ones Ecu is adaptive in a sense
Gooood morning Misha..
Upgraded the Cupra exhaust system hey? NiCE One bro,
the cars got some extra grunt & abit of "Growl" to the engine sound!..I LiKE it !
Wonder what she produces when u rechip the motor? Is that next on the agenda?
George is da BEST mate to have on a rebuild project..someone who dosnt bullshit & really knows his stuff= a COOL dude!!
👍👍🙂👍👍
Thanx for the update Misha. Lookin forward to seeing the finished project strut its thing onda track! LOVE Ya Work 💕
Godbless & hava g'day 🙂
Probably could have gotten away with the first middle resonator and not that huge extra thing by the rear wheel. Sounds quieter now haha.
Hey Misha, i‘m realy excited about whats happening to the cupra, you are doing it right 👌🏼!
Is there a video upcoming about rims & tires?
Original, due to the big Brembo brakes, the cupra is running on 19“ wheels. But your cupra & I think Thilos cupra are running on 18“ whells, i guess🤷🏼♂️
Can you compare the size and give some information about advantage & disadvantage of driving 18“ wheels?
Thank you for the beautiful content 😊 keep going👋🏻
Great tech content, love the versatile nature of your vids, It would be sweet to see you lap some of our Aussie rigs in my part of the world, The Land of Oz
Less hp..weird, I got more on mine. But my dyno guy also calculates hp after an average of 5-7 pulls, not from one..who pulls once IRL..? after 5-7 pulls the heat becomes a definitive factor and the OEM loose big hp after each pull since the turbo get so hot because of the restrictions in OEM exhaust. It gets hot with the milltek too but not even close to the OEM loss in numbers..
Nice vid Misha..hope you guys will enjoy the drone sound in the car at 130kmh😂😂😉
Huhu pulls
How you’re vids started with them mad scooters 😂👌🏻
Anything you upload is brillaint. Love it as always😍😎
Sounds like the whoosheyness of last gen Megane RS
"Pops and bangs...kinda douchey. " You captured it perfectly imo.
Over the pond guys here are sacrificing performance and wear and tear, possible damage for all the pOpS aNd BaNgS. Haha
Haha stuff has evolved in the scooter scene compared when we were riding scooters Misha :D
any relaability mods ? not sure about this engine but the 2015 S3/golf R and up had some bad timing problems because the tensionner was plastic and with heat cycling it becomes brittle and shatters causing a catastrohpic engine failure even on stock cars, there are some replacement parts made from billet aluminium to prevent the problem
A scooter next session ohh yea.. love the pops and bangs great sounding car :)
That is beautiful exhaust work.
4:24 that's a Jetta man, it's the "golf sedan" not the polo sedan. Interestingly the gli has the same drivetrain as a golf gti.
well least you kept decent power, i've helped lots of friends fit aftermarket exhausts and seen up to 10BHP lost with some turbo cars as the ECU Detects a change and restricts the power like it thinks its running low-grade fuel.
Braaaaapapapaap
Can’t wait to see it Sunday!
I saw a bunch of these scooters in Florida.
Loving the progress on this. 😀
Call me crazy I liked stock better
Stock sounds like boy racer ish, Milltek one sounds more grown up ish... if that make sense.
Exactly
You mean it now sounds like a standard boring old mans car lol
yeah, a 2.0L turbo 4 pumping out 300 hp is not impressive enough to demand pops and bangs. Maybe if it had 400 hp, sure, not 300 tho.
@@ZLAKLR20B I don't mind that, when it's 300hp.
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 to me, even 500hp, I'd prefer no artificial pops & bangs.
Nothing can make EA888 sounds good.
Very interesting to see the changes to the Cupra. Will the cage be the main thing that does stiffen the car or will there also be other things like welding or other struts?
Goodness, thought I'd started a Carwow video by mistake :P
I cant remember !
Have you ever made comments on road racers.
People driving hard outside The track. 😎
Dont be so mad Misha, it’s just a joke, you know for fun,.
It is 2020 and ewery thing sucks, there are only The fun we make our self.
Speedlimit is 100km/h over there so 0-100 is ok, right?
That wooshing sound from the new exhaust, sounds quite restrictive. Seems a backwards step to go larger pipe, more mufflers, be quieter (due to more restrictive mufflers), likely heavier? and if anything, lose power. Would be interesting to see a comparison of it tuned with the factory exhaust, vs tuned with the new exhaust.
4:23 I think it is a Jetta!
Miss the cupra 280 guerrilla exausth 😞
Mil tech - Acrapowitch - Remus . what do you prefer?
Such a pity because of the EU and TUV regulations. It's quieter with the Miltek exhaust than stock. I have the BullX resonated with rear silencers exhaust on my Cupra 280, also TUV approved and it's so silent that my friends ask me when will I get an exhaust, as they think it's stock because of how civilized it sounds haha
I mean i was close with the crank horsepower guess. Damn British in me.
It"s interesting to me how similar the underside of that car is to my MK1 Focus....odd. On another note ...are you using Thilo's car as a blueprint for your's?
Good video
Good comment
Good comment
Sounds nice
Im a bit bemused. The OEM has two boxes, but the Miltek needs 3 to pass TUV?
She can breathe better now ! Nice !
Prefer the stock sound of the F Type V6S...
Yes! I always thought the V6S was a really underrated car for sound.
5:00, what's with the metal banging sound from the M2?
sounds like it's coming from the suspension to me
Springs of suspension
@@mgcharoudin I see! I didn't know they make such a sound!
You guy work at lightning speed. Others car influencers will take 1 week to choose the exhaust and 1 week to install it and still get some kind of problem so has to switch back to the old system
Good Sound 👌
34mm op een 70 bwoah
Great Vid 😎😎👍👍👍👍
What is that black smoke on 00:17
Black magic
@@mgcharoudin thats what i tought 😏
Knew my new 2020 290 was stronger than the claimed 286. Cupra🦾
I didn't know you worked for Rimac
Just wondering what the rules are in Germany around ‘high flow’ cats? Do you need to keep the stock cat or can you change to less restrictive cats?
You can replace it, but it needs to be ECE certified. Companies like HJS offer sport cats (mostly 200/300 cell) which are allowed by Tüv for road use here in Germany
Stock power - 303. License Plate - 303 ... now you have to change the license plate...
RIMAC ON NURBURGRINGGGGGG
It sounds better than a a45
delete the middle resonator for better sound... it's only for the pre wltp cars... my golf r with opf it hasn't middle resonator....only has at the back because the two opf filters
I was so close think I was under 1bhp with my guess lol
Do you mean the DSG pops when saying pops n' bangs?
Pop... fart.. potatoe potatoe
@@Tristan.R.J.M pitoe pitatoe potatoe
Seit wann hat Miltek in Deutschland eine Genehmigung ?
Nice to see George has finally started paying for a haircut rather than being tight and cutting it himself 😂😂
4:20 US spec Jetta??
After the turbo is just unnecessary weight and wasted money
! :D
What do you think of e46 as project car?
Any car is a great project car
Je oude scooterliefde wordt weer aangewakkerd! 16:27, rijden met de achterklep niet in het slot waardoor er meer geluid binnenkomt (en uitlaatgassen).
Sounds awesome!
2jz?
I wish it were a Polo Sedan instead of a Golf Sedan... Then my car would be smaller, lighter, and faster on track!!
218 to be replaced with 235? hmmmmm :)
Bumper :)
NO POPS AND BANGS! Best thing ever! Then you can still hear it all on the outside... SAD!
Sounds like my stock MK5 GTi. Hahaha
Basically the same engine, so makes sense.
AAAAAND ladys and Gent's
Let me introduce: Another car which I want and can't afford
🥲
Like the video though
Second
A Lot of money for fckin vakum cleaner sound.. milltek or stock its sounds fckin bad.. :D a full straight pipe the only way to make some nice sound.
Gg
This "upgrade" it's not worth it at all for me. Even the sound is worst not to mention the lost of HP. Yea after remap it will have difference but it will have with the stock exhaust also. I hope that Milltek has sponsored that video. That's my 2cents about it.
👍🤓👍.
My Remus sounds so much better ;-)
first
idk man my cat´s meow makes more noise
sounds the same, IMO it would be a total waste of time and money with those huge boxes
New exhaust is shit, no matter how you measure it, sozzer
Cars that fart all the time are for the weak.