The Scottish Lady talking about why some people don’t care anymore hit the nail on the head. It gets exhausting to the point you’re burned out from it all.
Back when I was at university in the late 1970s, my professor who had at one time been a Republican legislator, Melvin DeStigter, used to always say "Never under estimate the stupidity of the average American voter - It is relatively easy to get them to vote for anything if you can make them angry at something".
It's so difficult isn't it to give up 10 minutes every 4 years to turn up to vote. They simply don't want to accept responsibility for making a decision. Sadly they don't seem to understand that not voting is itself a decision to support the status quo.
@@alexanderprice6612 I always vote. I just can’t be bothered fighting any more. Was a strong supporter of Scottish Independence and ending London rule.
@ you have to accept that your views were not the majority. That's democracy working. There is no system of politics where you just get your own way. You convince others to your side, or fail.
As an American, yes, this,, took about 5 minutes to be horrified by what I saw on Facebook,,,(2015)there was Americans, and or putinbots, who were living in an alternate reality that didn't exist outside their minds,,, that was before Conway said, alternative facts,, sadly, the Democratic Party caused much of my exhaustion,, the things they're fighting for right now will ensure Republicans stay in power after trump,,
Im not drawn to dictatorship, but i can see why millennials especially want some form of change. Speaking as a person who is middle millennial 1988, my generation has dealt with more financial blows then most generations starting their work life and growing into young adults. I was at the back of a labour government when i was 16. I had a full time minimum wage job, i left home at 18. At 18 on minimum wage, i could pay rent, bills, go out every weekend drinking, and some evenings, eat out, food shop well, smoke 20 a day. Two takeaways per week. New clothes and have left overs. Now, after rent and bills on national average annual wage, i cant hardly eat a well nutritious diet, cant go out drinking, definitely not eat out. Not smoke, and new clothes are rare and budget shops. Ive seen my wage against the cost of living decrease dramatically. And many others compared to 18 years ago are the same. We went from house prices reachable but to young to get a mortgage, and just watched it getting further and further away. My parents generation really have no idea they had the best period, from wages to cost of living.
That guy who travels in the US is talking tosh. Americans love big government, just so long as it's other people being governed. Preventing contraception, book bans, forced religion, prohibition.
The young are not drawn towards dictatorships. There's a small but vocal portion of vulnerable, radicalised young men who listen to people like Trump, Tate and Elon... Outside of that the rest of us are mostly socialist/ democratic socialist. We want to rejoin the EU and we want universal basic income propped up with progressive wealth and corporation taxes. Basically... we want the guarentee of the social contract first.
I am very sorry, but in the USA young people who voted in November 2024 - 46% of them voted for Trump. Back in 2020 less than 30% of young people voted for Trump. Based on those numbers, LARGE numbers of young people in the USA are being drawn to authoritarians.
Ukraine brings us absolutely zero benefit that some really basic diplomacy with Russia wouldn't achieve. While bringing endless negatives. Generally left leaning and hate Trump and the likes btw.
I don’t think he’s progressive, maybe centrist… centre-left possibly. If he were progressive he would’ve supported Corbyn. As it stands he hates Corbyn with the same passion he hates the Tories. Which is weird, because he loves Bernie Sanders?
The problem with polling like this is that its worthless to talk about any poll without taking in to context the methodology. Last year a poll came out in the US that like half of young people polled were right leaning, but the polling methodology was flawed in that it was conducted through land lines and mobile phones. Virtually no young person has a land line to begin with, and of the young people who are willing to take a survey over mobile phone (from an unknown number) is also very small. So the study only proved that among young people, right wingers were disproportionally more likely to answer surveys over the phone. And while I couldn't find the actual source (only references to FGS Global) and therefor no methodology, its entirely possible that the methodology ensures that younger right wingers are overrepresented for their age demographic. So this study too is meaningless without that context.
The reality is there is a loss of memory. From the collapse of the Iron curtain, the fall of the USSR. The fall of military dictators in Africa, Asia and South America all at the rnd of the 80s and early 90s. Young men do not remember the fear and abject terror.Or else didn't see the horror. They only hear and see the romanticization of those dictators or at least the time they lived. They saw the Clinton's, the Blairs snd the Obamas and did realize that what they saw as weak governments were really a strong reactionary vote. Hence the landslides.
Well that's already the case. Our Democracy stops once we've voted, pretty much. The times that people en masse have taken to the streets in the last 20-30 years, haven't changed anythign.
I'm American and I'm not cheering. I worked very hard to get Kamala Harris elected. Along with most of the people with whom I associate, I'm feeling absolute despair (and fear) over Trump's election.
Sorry for you're loss. But Kamala and the democrats begged for this defeat. If the ceasefire in Gaza goes through and all the reporting that it is based on Trump pressuring Netenyahu i think that alone vindicates people's decision to vote for Trump. Now IF that happens AND he stops the Ukraine war, I will get off his back. The guy can tell 60,000 lies in the next four years but actions count. The dems (the party not the voters) just seem so be living in another planet. Kamala didnt earn that vote at all and the proof of that is the fact that Trump pretty much got the same amount of votes he got last time. 10 million or so Biden voters sat at home.
In my experience with people, I've come to the conclusion that strict morality is a luxury. People do care more about what they're gonna eat next, especially during austerity.
There should be someone present at these Trump press conferences who starts laughing out loud at each lie, so that every viewer in the world knows it rediculous.
The only 'benign dictator' I've ever encountered was the paraplegic guy at the end of Game of Thrones. Pretty much the polar opposite of Trump in every way imaginable.
The current capitalist system that is increasing the wealth gap and collapsing wages is too blame. People are becoming poorer and watching society dismantle
There’s two aspects to the dictator thing, 1. Boomers have had a stranglehold on government for so long, millennials and younger feel like they have been in a dictatorship anyway. 2. Most of the people you’re talking about are men, they like trump, Putin and other figures like them, they like them because regimes like that tend to be about 100 years behind on women’s rights.
Cultural changes and debates over gender roles have led some young men to feel their identities are under scrutiny. This perception can drive them away from progressive movements that they believe challenge traditional masculinity. Anyway Jim. Why are you drawn to dictator Starmer?
You are talking about benign dictators, but you should be talking about a dictator who only thinks about number one. That describes trump. Why don't voters see that?
It's not until you are older that you start to really question what you are being told, being on the recieving end of prejudice or even witnessing the effects is often the wake up call people need.
i rly dont understand the point about trump.... sure he could of been convicted, but he wasn't because he was elected and the constitution says you then cant convict him. so what in the world is the complaint ? your mad at the constitution the people who voted for him or what ????
The problem was that the American justice system allowed a wealthy criminal to avoid a trial by allowing money and lawyers and a corrupt judge to delay matters, when an average person would have been in prison well before the election.
Whilst we are discussing Dictatorships does LBC or James have any opinion on EU and NATO member Romania just straight up cancelling their Presidential election 2 days before the final run off after the right wing candidate had won the first round 😅 Sorry. You are not who we want to win.
You conveniently leave out the context of them canceling that election: There was reliable evidence that the election was meddled with through illegal means by Russia. And it wasn't just 1 person deciding that on a wim, their high court ruled this based on declassified gov docs made by their intelligence service. And given how said right wing candidate also supports dictators, its very ironic that you're implying "LBC" / James have a shaky positions on dictatorships.
It's true of all politicians, and people in general. For me the issues are how big is the lie, why did they do it (motivation), and do they (and their followers) care.
@ Maybe I'm splitting hairs. I think I'm honest and try to very careful about what I say. But... have I lied? Yes. If anyone says they've never lied, I'd suggest that's not their first lie. 🙂
@ I tried lying as a kid and teenager, but I was awful at it and it always made things worse. I haven't told a lie since I was in my very early twenties, and I'm in my mid-fifties now.
They tend to the fringes (both sides of the political spectrum) more so than the general population. And the older folks tend to the right MSTTGP. The middle aged tend to the middle MSTTGP. That's my personal observations (as weak a measure as that is).
Please define the term dictator and explain how it is an accurate description of Starmer's behaviour as PM. Please use verifiable facts, not rumours or speculation.
The Scottish Lady talking about why some people don’t care anymore hit the nail on the head. It gets exhausting to the point you’re burned out from it all.
Back when I was at university in the late 1970s, my professor who had at one time been a Republican legislator, Melvin DeStigter, used to always say "Never under estimate the stupidity of the average American voter - It is relatively easy to get them to vote for anything if you can make them angry at something".
It's so difficult isn't it to give up 10 minutes every 4 years to turn up to vote.
They simply don't want to accept responsibility for making a decision.
Sadly they don't seem to understand that not voting is itself a decision to support the status quo.
@@alexanderprice6612 I always vote. I just can’t be bothered fighting any more. Was a strong supporter of Scottish Independence and ending London rule.
@ you have to accept that your views were not the majority. That's democracy working. There is no system of politics where you just get your own way. You convince others to your side, or fail.
As an American, yes, this,, took about 5 minutes to be horrified by what I saw on Facebook,,,(2015)there was Americans, and or putinbots, who were living in an alternate reality that didn't exist outside their minds,,, that was before Conway said, alternative facts,, sadly, the Democratic Party caused much of my exhaustion,, the things they're fighting for right now will ensure Republicans stay in power after trump,,
Im not drawn to dictatorship, but i can see why millennials especially want some form of change. Speaking as a person who is middle millennial 1988, my generation has dealt with more financial blows then most generations starting their work life and growing into young adults. I was at the back of a labour government when i was 16. I had a full time minimum wage job, i left home at 18. At 18 on minimum wage, i could pay rent, bills, go out every weekend drinking, and some evenings, eat out, food shop well, smoke 20 a day. Two takeaways per week. New clothes and have left overs. Now, after rent and bills on national average annual wage, i cant hardly eat a well nutritious diet, cant go out drinking, definitely not eat out. Not smoke, and new clothes are rare and budget shops. Ive seen my wage against the cost of living decrease dramatically. And many others compared to 18 years ago are the same.
We went from house prices reachable but to young to get a mortgage, and just watched it getting further and further away. My parents generation really have no idea they had the best period, from wages to cost of living.
That guy who travels in the US is talking tosh. Americans love big government, just so long as it's other people being governed. Preventing contraception, book bans, forced religion, prohibition.
The young are not drawn towards dictatorships. There's a small but vocal portion of vulnerable, radicalised young men who listen to people like Trump, Tate and Elon... Outside of that the rest of us are mostly socialist/ democratic socialist. We want to rejoin the EU and we want universal basic income propped up with progressive wealth and corporation taxes. Basically... we want the guarentee of the social contract first.
The young want a better life. They have not been co-opted or beaten down by the system.
James, you are part of the solution and part of the problem, as evidenced by partaking in the terrible treatment of Jetemy Corbyn.
It was a landslide victory for trump get over it. you must be dreaming if we're going to join the EU again honestly some people
@@XOsubmarinerYour first sentence is factually incorrect. We will rejoin… it’s just a matter of when.
I am very sorry, but in the USA young people who voted in November 2024 - 46% of them voted for Trump. Back in 2020 less than 30% of young people voted for Trump. Based on those numbers, LARGE numbers of young people in the USA are being drawn to authoritarians.
I'm lower middle class living in the US and I choose democracy over shinny objects. I've lost all respect for my country. 😢
Its really weird to me whenever I meet a lets call it, "dictator enthusiast". Some of the most shortsighted people in existence.
:) "I never thought the leopards would eat MY face, too!"
Wow! So you 've actually met these people?
Your labelling is also weird.
The first caller is the worst kind of person, the classic oh trump is ok because he will sell an ally we swore to defend down the river.
Ukraine brings us absolutely zero benefit that some really basic diplomacy with Russia wouldn't achieve. While bringing endless negatives. Generally left leaning and hate Trump and the likes btw.
I’ve gotta watch this later. Love James’ show. Progressives rock!!
Progressive Rock? What, like Genesis, ELO and Jethro Tull? 🤪
I don’t think he’s progressive, maybe centrist… centre-left possibly. If he were progressive he would’ve supported Corbyn. As it stands he hates Corbyn with the same passion he hates the Tories. Which is weird, because he loves Bernie Sanders?
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🫶😂
Great positivity. Where did you find it?
Spoiler: James dies
The problem with polling like this is that its worthless to talk about any poll without taking in to context the methodology.
Last year a poll came out in the US that like half of young people polled were right leaning, but the polling methodology was flawed in that it was conducted through land lines and mobile phones. Virtually no young person has a land line to begin with, and of the young people who are willing to take a survey over mobile phone (from an unknown number) is also very small. So the study only proved that among young people, right wingers were disproportionally more likely to answer surveys over the phone.
And while I couldn't find the actual source (only references to FGS Global) and therefor no methodology, its entirely possible that the methodology ensures that younger right wingers are overrepresented for their age demographic. So this study too is meaningless without that context.
The reality is there is a loss of memory. From the collapse of the Iron curtain, the fall of the USSR. The fall of military dictators in Africa, Asia and South America all at the rnd of the 80s and early 90s. Young men do not remember the fear and abject terror.Or else didn't see the horror. They only hear and see the romanticization of those dictators or at least the time they lived. They saw the Clinton's, the Blairs snd the Obamas and did realize that what they saw as weak governments were really a strong reactionary vote. Hence the landslides.
No one is saying get a crazy dictator in
My guess having someone think for you is easier than you thinking for yourself.
No it’s obvious the political system is a joke. Politicians in it for themselves
Well that's already the case. Our Democracy stops once we've voted, pretty much. The times that people en masse have taken to the streets in the last 20-30 years, haven't changed anythign.
@ spot on, original comment is trying to smart
"...and he's allowed to use scissors." 😂
They give a simplified view of the world daddyism
Whereas Hugo Ball gave us dadaism. 🤪
Margaret the Scottish lady in Amsterdam was absolutely spot on. Brilliant brilliant analysis.
I'm American and I'm not cheering. I worked very hard to get Kamala Harris elected. Along with most of the people with whom I associate, I'm feeling absolute despair (and fear) over Trump's election.
Me too.
Why? He’s a strong leader and USA in a much better place under him.
We fear for you too
Sorry for you're loss. But Kamala and the democrats begged for this defeat. If the ceasefire in Gaza goes through and all the reporting that it is based on Trump pressuring Netenyahu i think that alone vindicates people's decision to vote for Trump. Now IF that happens AND he stops the Ukraine war, I will get off his back. The guy can tell 60,000 lies in the next four years but actions count. The dems (the party not the voters) just seem so be living in another planet. Kamala didnt earn that vote at all and the proof of that is the fact that Trump pretty much got the same amount of votes he got last time. 10 million or so Biden voters sat at home.
Are they? Not in the US at least. If you look at demographics, the older people most voted for Trump
In my experience with people, I've come to the conclusion that strict morality is a luxury. People do care more about what they're gonna eat next, especially during austerity.
Your fascination with trump is mind blowing…..you gonna have a lot of material for the next four years
There should be someone present at these Trump press conferences who starts laughing out loud at each lie, so that every viewer in the world knows it rediculous.
Didn't Libya..Syria..Iraq..etc had a strong government 🤔🧐
@jamesobrien PLEASE try and get Liz Truss on... not for an "interview", maybe just a chat. See if she's OK.
The only 'benign dictator' I've ever encountered was the paraplegic guy at the end of Game of Thrones. Pretty much the polar opposite of Trump in every way imaginable.
The current capitalist system that is increasing the wealth gap and collapsing wages is too blame. People are becoming poorer and watching society dismantle
lol at @11.00 when james literally said hes confused why the entire world doesn't agree with him xD
Sad day when "analysis" is a "fancy" word.
Imagine thinking a political system where people don't matter is the way to a better life.
Yeah because current democracy is all about the people and not about getting voted in…
Imagine thinking a system that is purely concerned with profit is a way to a better life.
I don't have to imagine it. I've experienced it. On the other hand, I don't think many people asking for a despot ever had to endure one.
There’s two aspects to the dictator thing,
1. Boomers have had a stranglehold on government for so long, millennials and younger feel like they have been in a dictatorship anyway.
2. Most of the people you’re talking about are men, they like trump, Putin and other figures like them, they like them because regimes like that tend to be about 100 years behind on women’s rights.
Could it be because young people have nothing to lose
Yeah. The pressures they face today seem exponentially more than what I did "back in my day".
‘Young people’ 😂
Its drilled into their heads that being rogue and wealthy is cool and gets things done.
Cultural changes and debates over gender roles have led some young men to feel their identities are under scrutiny. This perception can drive them away from progressive movements that they believe challenge traditional masculinity.
Anyway Jim. Why are you drawn to dictator Starmer?
Rich people care about hirerarchy. They don't want to lose their privileged place because of morals. Morals are basically for the middle class.
Yeeah… Truss has gone completely bonkers now.
I don't like Trump but i prefer him over Kamala. The simple reason is that PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THE WARS!!
He's currently pushing a war monger for Department of Defense, while threatening Greenland and Panama with military action.
@amandamilo. You cannot just “like” Trump. He’s the sort you either worship or detest. There’s no other way.
You are talking about benign dictators, but you should be talking about a dictator who only thinks about number one. That describes trump. Why don't voters see that?
Matters America? How about Starmer? James, your hypocricy is staggering.
What about starmer, Brenda?
@@CurseOfDaSmurf
Someone told Brenda she doesn't like him because things.
@@kevinskiles2033 the ability to think for oneself is lost on some ay
O’Brien still in meltdown lol, 🤡
It's not until you are older that you start to really question what you are being told, being on the recieving end of prejudice or even witnessing the effects is often the wake up call people need.
Speak for yourself!
Who people like Starmer??
i rly dont understand the point about trump.... sure he could of been convicted, but he wasn't because he was elected and the constitution says you then cant convict him. so what in the world is the complaint ? your mad at the constitution the people who voted for him or what ????
The problem was that the American justice system allowed a wealthy criminal to avoid a trial by allowing money and lawyers and a corrupt judge to delay matters, when an average person would have been in prison well before the election.
The left-wing digital lynch mob at LBC are always a laugh!😂😂
young drawn to left wing parts
What language is that supposed to be?
Whilst we are discussing Dictatorships does LBC or James have any opinion on EU and NATO member Romania just straight up cancelling their Presidential election 2 days before the final run off after the right wing candidate had won the first round 😅
Sorry. You are not who we want to win.
You conveniently leave out the context of them canceling that election: There was reliable evidence that the election was meddled with through illegal means by Russia.
And it wasn't just 1 person deciding that on a wim, their high court ruled this based on declassified gov docs made by their intelligence service.
And given how said right wing candidate also supports dictators, its very ironic that you're implying "LBC" / James have a shaky positions on dictatorships.
For an answer, listen to what Professor Jeffrey Sachs has to say.
I'm not sure "Putin is brilliant, NATO are nazis" fits any question that's been asked on the show.
Name an American politician who doesn't lie.
It's true of all politicians, and people in general. For me the issues are how big is the lie, why did they do it (motivation), and do they (and their followers) care.
@@andrewstevenson118 It's not true of all people. Some are radically honest. Can't think of any radically honest politicians, though.
@ Maybe I'm splitting hairs. I think I'm honest and try to very careful about what I say. But... have I lied? Yes. If anyone says they've never lied, I'd suggest that's not their first lie. 🙂
How insightful.
@ I tried lying as a kid and teenager, but I was awful at it and it always made things worse. I haven't told a lie since I was in my very early twenties, and I'm in my mid-fifties now.
The young idealise left wing utopian ideologies - which also happen to be the same as left wing totalitarian realities…
Just out of curiosuty: Are You just being intellectually lazy, or do you actually believe what you say...?
@@dayegilharno4988 There's ample evidence for them to sift through and yet they still posted, it's lazy trolling at best.
@@hanskneesun123 :) Someone apparently not yet "on the recieving end" of their own voting decisions...
They tend to the fringes (both sides of the political spectrum) more so than the general population. And the older folks tend to the right MSTTGP. The middle aged tend to the middle MSTTGP. That's my personal observations (as weak a measure as that is).
@@dayegilharno4988Nope. My statement stands and I stand by it.
First! 😛
17:50
Unfortunately, they're drawn to anything that is not this drivel
How is it drivel? Can you refute anything said in this video with evidence?
Also why are you even here commenting if you think its drivel? Are you ok?
@Khalkara more drivel!
@@stewartmill4178Stewart just learned the word drivel 😂
@@stewartmill4178what do you want to see from a government stew?
HAHA
10th. 🤭😄
The biggest dictator is Sir Two-Tier Stalin.
Please define the term dictator and explain how it is an accurate description of Starmer's behaviour as PM. Please use verifiable facts, not rumours or speculation.
Reform Councilors disagree.
They say the d is Farage.
If you say so, Ivan.
@julian. Just doodling. You should get out more.
@@belindamay8063 doodling?