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Things to improve on a future rig easy to be used solo. 1. Use a full suspention bike and use the frame as point of attachment for the gimbal. 2. Try to use something for the vibrations like a big piece of rubber. 3. Using an autofocus, IS lens helps a lot. 4. Deflate the tyres, try using an ebike with a throtle. 5. Have fun! :)
@@DSLRguide also for auto focus you could consider the lidar from PDMovie, Live Air Smart. Glad you're riding your bike again, that feeling is awsome!
Videos like this is why I love RUclips. Really enjoyed watching the process unfold from concept to testing, even though it didn't work out exactly to plan. Hope we get a Bike Rig V2 soon!
The only camera youtuber I still watch. It's everything I like, honest, humble, relatable and creative. The rest all look the same, talk the same, make the same content and even use the same gear and grades. edit. If the gimball was attached from the middle rather than the bottom, it would help a lot. lower center of gravity too.
I stumbled onto your channel tonight and after recognizing your voice, realized that I used to watch your videos over 10 years ago when I was a little kid! Glad your still youtube-ing. Hope you make it to a million subscribers!
Might be helpful to deflate your tires a bit and also mount the entire camera setup between a rubber plate, like a yoga mat or one of those knee pads for outdoor gardening. The bike itself looks pretty futuristic with all those attachments though 😎
Great to see you still making videos and developing your own style after all these years, Simon. I learned a lot from many of your videos so hope you keep it up! :)
This video made me appreciate those dolly tracks that big productions always put on the ground for smooth moves :) But also. I feel like either some kind of makeshift spring dampening mounting system or straight up something like Ronin 4D might’ve solved all those up and down movement issues. Great video, regardless, really appreciate it! Thank you👏🏻
Here for the storytelling! Felt like a little TV show. Good to see you back. Crazy, I remember watching your stuff ten years ago when you were still a kid. One of the OG YT filmmakers
Good job with this one, Simon! I'm loving these ideas for janky rigs that actually end up being quite functional when put to the test. Other people are suggesting it in the comments, but to mitigate vibrations, the main thing to do is to have some kind of dampening for the rig so that it can absorb the shocks more gracefully. Keep these kinds of projects coming, they're a really fun watch.
I've been watching your channel for so many years now, and I've seen your videos develop from simple how-to's into documentary-quality video content like this. This is my favourite video of yours so far. Just such a fun watch :) :)
havent seen your videos in years but i learned from you a lot when starting dreaming about filmmaking like 7 years ago and now i make a living with this, thank you
Great video, but I wish you would have experimented with the gimbal mounting. You pointed out at the beginning that they aren't good at stabilizing in the Y direction, yet mounted it such that some of the worse vibrations were in that direction.
Once my friend wanted to make a promotional video, including something similar, that supposed to be a dolly-shot. Since it was on the sidewalk we couldn't use a car, so I ran back home to find my old stroller. In addition to the inquisitive looks, we also received a significant number of smiles. The shot worked BTW
I can admire the commitment to using a manual focus lens. Could probably get similar results with an autofocus lens and some practice on a pair of rollerskates, maybe not quite as long shots though.
I film while riding a bike a lot, and I've tried various rigs. Footage always looks best if you are holding the gimbal or it's attached to your body, especially the head because the neck keeps it stable. Not easy, but something to think about! Typically, I ride one-handed while holding a gimbal or handheld with wide angle lens (which helps tremendously get ride of shakes). Using the gimbal gets very heavy very fast.
Would love to see this with an e bike. Constant throttle input and bigger tires will help eliminate a lot of shake. Such a cool video thanks for sharing!
Think about incorporating baby stroller into this kind of rig. They have four wheels and built in suspension, must be much more stable on bumpy terrain. And of course use autofocus lenses next time, there is no way you will be able to consistently focus pull while riding a bike.
I'm actually happy with my own setup of putting the Pocket 3 on a chest harness flipped backwards. It might not be as cinematic, but AF is solid and it's smooth even when going over most bumps. I do wish DJI made an even larger camera with a better lens to strap on my back. Your setup won't work for the elaborate adventures I take my bike on.
Good attempt and interesting demonstration, thanks for sharing. I started playing around with some designs in Solidworks for a camera e-scooter a couple of years ago, but the bicycle may make more sense for faster and more versatile shots. Looking at your rig, it occurred that rather than mounting the gimbal grip vertically that if you attached it to a hinged bar at the front of the cargo rack, angled rearward and upward at about 45degrees, the other end of that bar could be suspended by bungees to provide some suspension and possibly dampen the bumps. It might be a bit of a challenge getting the mass moment and whatever is being used suspend the gimbal and camera to not end up bobbing as a spring, but I'm thinking that adding weights as mass to change the resonant frequency and stabilize the vertical movement might be doable. I could sketch an idea in Solidworks if is you might be interested.
Great idea! I'd lower the platform in which you built the rig a little bit and add an arm of some sort from the gimbal rig to the seat post for extra stability. Also, try deflating the wheels a little so they are not too hard. But not too much since it would damage both the tires and the rim. I'm not expert, have never tried something like that, but those ideas came to mind.
I built something similar to film some runners but even with a shock mount in the mix too I couldn’t get the results I wanted. Great video, glad it wasn’t just me that found it tough 😊
few ideas while watching : 1- try to stabilize by adding a bar fixed between the gimbal stick and the seat bar. 2- deflate the tires to absorb the road bumps 3- Why not a tandem bicycle with a driver and an operator? Great work!
Easiest solution for one man tracking - Ronin S, light weight mirrorless camera with AF, electric longboard. Can’t go wrong, super smooth, and your arms smooth out the bumps!
nice one! I been thinking about rigging to a bike. But i think it'll have to be an electric bike. As a Camera operator, you don't want to have to worry about maintaining speed and the pedaling will create movement.
Hey, we can help solving the wobble. We built something similar for the rolling shots you can find in our vids, what you need is a high-frequency filtering solution like a z-axys arm or a shock absorber base. The base is what we use: two metal plates joined by tensioned steel ropes, to keep em always at the same distance
To reduce some of the vibration from bumps you can try softer more supple tires or reduce the pressure in your tires. A better rack would help a lot. That rack is probably only rated for a few kilos, look for a touring rack.
I used an osmo pocket 3 with a movmax blade arm and it was amazing. Can't change the lens or anything but it dealt with the z axis so well and the proof was in the shot.
factor in the torque prior to shot and post shot add the time it takes to ramp up and ramp down, on the back of you bike mount a pole with fluorescent markers, on the bike you are shooting, you ask the rider to get the top of their handle with one of the markings on the pole and try as hard as possible to match that whilst shooting, that will keep your focus in shot, its what we do in precision driving for stuntwork in films. Also do not mount the gimbal centre over the front of the wheel you will get slight gimbal lock or something which is called castor effect, it amps the upward movement. Mitchell systems use what is known as a spring rig, you can build one yourself with a set of gas structs or a bungee, People will say deflate tyres or use suspension systems, that just adds more movement, a rigid frame is better, prevents sympathetic oscillation. another massive help is to put matching weights as close to the handlebars as possible so you become more neutral with balancing, the harder your gimbal has to work the more battery you use, and the motors get hotter. Good effort keep it up. I am a former steadicam operator, and spent a long time around U-Cranes (the term russian arm is now banned)
This is one of those time when you think:"this is stupid, i can do it better and cheaper myself". and ending up chasing the sunken cost fallacy, great attempt! Im thinking ronin 4D to smooth out the bumps, programmed camera movements timed with the scene or talent.
What happens if you mount the gimbal in flashlight mode, horizontal, instead of vertical? Thinking you may get less bumps as the motors are working to absorb the movement. Also you may be able to mount that forward off the handle bars so you can be the chase car when needed. Other option would be to wear the steady cam harness and rig the gimbal to that, but I bet it is not great for a day of riding.
I would love to see how this sort of rig could work with a DJI ronin 4D camera. Of course that's a $7k camera, but it also replaces all of the extra bits used on the bike rig in one package so no need for the extra gimbal, focus motor, wireless screen etc.. Mainly I wonder if the Ronin's Z axis stabilization would be enough to keep up with the bumps. The 4d has a wireless screen and movement / focus controls, plus lidar proximity focus and subject tracking.
Filming on a bike period is really, really hard if you want smooth-looking footage that isn't affected by even the slightest bumps. Even in the smoother shots in your video, I can see the tiny movements from the bumps, the same ones I've seen in my own experience. It seems like the best bet is usually hand held or head held, but that's not necessarily easy to do for an extended period of time, and if one struggles to be one-handed or no-handed on a bike, then it doesn't work out so well. Gopro or other action camera designed for this stuff seems to do better, but such a solution is definitely not ideal in all cases as I also learned from my attempts at doing this kind of stuff. There's some urbanist bicycling channel in NYC that I believe managed to get a decent setup with a Dutch-style cargo bike. I've seen one or two other channels pull it off with a more typical bicycle, though I can't remember who they were.
great video, man! also, AF would help here + there are gimbals that can be programed with a phone to track subjects; I know my dji ronin sc had that option
nice idea, but 1. you should have used the gimbal in a horizontal rather than a vertical position. 2. a simple action cam has such a good stabilization (at least in bright daylight) and everything is in focus.
in the EUC community, I have seen a lot of videographers and camera operators interested in an EUC, and they are not wrong. Smooth stable video at crazy speeds is possible, especially with suspension EUCs, your hands are completely free though it will take at least a few weaks to learn to ride at that level.
Some of my thoughts on potential solutions to deal with the camera shake. Option 1: Consider getting a 4th axis system that could attach to the bike and support the gimbal. Scotty Makes Stuff happens to make 4th axis systems, it might be worth reaching out to him about a potential collaboration as if he built you a bike 4th axis for this project he could market it to others for a similar purpose opening up such a solution to everyone; however, the down side is such a solution might be a bit more expensive than some of the other potential solutions. Option 2: Rent a DJI Ronin 4D for the bike camera, because not only does it have an integrated 4th axis system, the system has dynamic arm adaptation which is likely to result in more stable footage. Option 3: Consider using a full suspension bike as the 4th axis system, after all it should ahve shocks and prings already in it; however, my gut says this is probably going to be the lest successful solution. Option 4: If one is willing to sacrifice shallow depth of field, then an insta 360 is potentially one of the least expensive solutions that could solve the issue. Option 5: For a slightly more robust version of the above consider a DJI osmo pocket 3 along with a MOVMAX 4th axis system attached to the bike, as that can produce a higher resolution end product than the Insta360 for roughly the same price point. With regards to the focus, either use a system that can auto focus, like some Sony cameras or to a lesser degree lidar auto focus like on the Ronin 4D and let the system deal with the focus for you, keep things at infinite focus, or lastly use a DJI Focus pro set to auto focus, and then manually override it if you get into a situation you need to. Trying to be the first AC while also the driver is a recipe for extreme difficulty or even failure because hit ones mark consistently while focusing on the road ahead of you is extremely dangerous and hard to repeat.
i did a something similar with a gimbal and a skateboard indoors solo. it was technically possible, but yeah i missed the collaboration part. also when working solo like that you kinda have to wait for lightning to strike. whereas if you work with others you share the load and can be a bit more consistent.
hey dude, nice to hear from you! Next I’m going to try rollerskates for hopefully more agility. collaboration is ideal for precision for sure, the folks filming cars were able to get a wild level of consistency from their movements
Great video! However there is one issue you might run into. I heard that if you mount your phone to a motorbike it messes up its image stabilization and the camera starts shaking. I don't have any first hand experience and don't know if it could happen with bikes but wanted to let you know anyways!
TO be honest you can use the DJI LiDar for Focus and DJI Gimble with Raven Eye will get the job done. you just don't have the best tools for the job but this a good concept
Ok so I have never used a gimbal before, but would holding the gimbal at a 45° angle instead of vertical be better? Then you would be using one more of the joints and therefore one more degee of freedom for stabilisation
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been watching this guy for 10 years. dude still has no budget for shooting. 10/10 btw
I used to watch him years ago, he looks so much older now!
Things to improve on a future rig easy to be used solo.
1. Use a full suspention bike and use the frame as point of attachment for the gimbal.
2. Try to use something for the vibrations like a big piece of rubber.
3. Using an autofocus, IS lens helps a lot.
4. Deflate the tyres, try using an ebike with a throtle.
5. Have fun! :)
There are suspensions for microphones that have a camera mount
Looks like 1 need to do version 2!
@@DSLRguide also take a tandem :)
@@DSLRguide also for auto focus you could consider the lidar from PDMovie, Live Air Smart.
Glad you're riding your bike again, that feeling is awsome!
@@DSLRguide 1 can be hopeful that the 2nd clip is going to be posted soon. Really enjoy your content.
Videos like this is why I love RUclips. Really enjoyed watching the process unfold from concept to testing, even though it didn't work out exactly to plan. Hope we get a Bike Rig V2 soon!
The only camera youtuber I still watch. It's everything I like, honest, humble, relatable and creative. The rest all look the same, talk the same, make the same content and even use the same gear and grades.
edit. If the gimball was attached from the middle rather than the bottom, it would help a lot. lower center of gravity too.
I'm not a videographer anymore but I was when I followed you YEARS ago. Still enjoy your vids from time to time anyway!
That means a lot, thank you!
I stumbled onto your channel tonight and after recognizing your voice, realized that I used to watch your videos over 10 years ago when I was a little kid! Glad your still youtube-ing. Hope you make it to a million subscribers!
Might be helpful to deflate your tires a bit and also mount the entire camera setup between a rubber plate, like a yoga mat or one of those knee pads for outdoor gardening.
The bike itself looks pretty futuristic with all those attachments though 😎
excellent ideas!
im loving the cutaways with the match cuts that are dispersed throughout -- they really keep the viewer engaged visually
Interesting build, and great reason to start cycling more. Nice video
Great to see you still making videos and developing your own style after all these years, Simon. I learned a lot from many of your videos so hope you keep it up! :)
This video made me appreciate those dolly tracks that big productions always put on the ground for smooth moves :)
But also. I feel like either some kind of makeshift spring dampening mounting system or straight up something like Ronin 4D might’ve solved all those up and down movement issues.
Great video, regardless, really appreciate it! Thank you👏🏻
whoo needs dolly, when you can have KUKA :D
Here for the storytelling! Felt like a little TV show. Good to see you back. Crazy, I remember watching your stuff ten years ago when you were still a kid. One of the OG YT filmmakers
Good to know that you are catching up with the modern RUclips style.
man it makes me so happy when you upload! need this to become your full time thing
Bro, I've been watching you for like 10 yrs. You inspired me a lot back in the day
Good job with this one, Simon! I'm loving these ideas for janky rigs that actually end up being quite functional when put to the test. Other people are suggesting it in the comments, but to mitigate vibrations, the main thing to do is to have some kind of dampening for the rig so that it can absorb the shocks more gracefully. Keep these kinds of projects coming, they're a really fun watch.
I've been watching your channel for so many years now, and I've seen your videos develop from simple how-to's into documentary-quality video content like this. This is my favourite video of yours so far. Just such a fun watch :) :)
this is so kind, thank you!
I grew up on your content and I'm still here!
Thanks for sticking around!
Love this! As a cyclist and filmmaker I've always wondered about the same setup.
5:35 I know this spot, Storror boys not out that day.
had a smile on my face the entire time. great video simon.
havent seen your videos in years but i learned from you a lot when starting dreaming about filmmaking like 7 years ago and now i make a living with this, thank you
that’s so cool to hear, congrats!
Great video, but I wish you would have experimented with the gimbal mounting. You pointed out at the beginning that they aren't good at stabilizing in the Y direction, yet mounted it such that some of the worse vibrations were in that direction.
It's always great watching a new video crafted by you, Simon.
Loved to see the process all the way through.
Thanks dude!
Once my friend wanted to make a promotional video, including something similar, that supposed to be a dolly-shot. Since it was on the sidewalk we couldn't use a car, so I ran back home to find my old stroller. In addition to the inquisitive looks, we also received a significant number of smiles. The shot worked BTW
Love this
At least you learnt how to store your bike. Good video and nice try, Simon!
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Seriously tho, if you haven't seen his bike gimbal rig with dampening, that thing is amazing!!!
Wanna try something similar for v2!
Duuuude I'm not gonna lie. I kinda dig the vibration look and feel. Feels very... 80s? IDK Nostalgic. Nice. Well done. Almost feels like FILM.
This would be like three people’s jobs on a set. A driver, focus puller and camera operator.
He is the Fredagain of filmmaking
Love seeing a new vid pop up on your channel!
I've been working on rigging up my ebike with my drone gimbal. Thanks for sharing!
I can admire the commitment to using a manual focus lens. Could probably get similar results with an autofocus lens and some practice on a pair of rollerskates, maybe not quite as long shots though.
I film while riding a bike a lot, and I've tried various rigs. Footage always looks best if you are holding the gimbal or it's attached to your body, especially the head because the neck keeps it stable. Not easy, but something to think about! Typically, I ride one-handed while holding a gimbal or handheld with wide angle lens (which helps tremendously get ride of shakes). Using the gimbal gets very heavy very fast.
Would love to see this with an e bike. Constant throttle input and bigger tires will help eliminate a lot of shake. Such a cool video thanks for sharing!
Think about incorporating baby stroller into this kind of rig. They have four wheels and built in suspension, must be much more stable on bumpy terrain. And of course use autofocus lenses next time, there is no way you will be able to consistently focus pull while riding a bike.
I've been waiting for tis video my entire filmmaking life, thnk so much
I'm actually happy with my own setup of putting the Pocket 3 on a chest harness flipped backwards. It might not be as cinematic, but AF is solid and it's smooth even when going over most bumps. I do wish DJI made an even larger camera with a better lens to strap on my back. Your setup won't work for the elaborate adventures I take my bike on.
the little vibration feels like 80s tracking shots tbh..has that feel to it
Needed this today when I was filming an athlete in a triathlon.
Great work Simon! It looked like a fun episode to make.
it really was, especially had fun editing it & choosing music this time around
Good attempt and interesting demonstration, thanks for sharing. I started playing around with some designs in Solidworks for a camera e-scooter a couple of years ago, but the bicycle may make more sense for faster and more versatile shots. Looking at your rig, it occurred that rather than mounting the gimbal grip vertically that if you attached it to a hinged bar at the front of the cargo rack, angled rearward and upward at about 45degrees, the other end of that bar could be suspended by bungees to provide some suspension and possibly dampen the bumps.
It might be a bit of a challenge getting the mass moment and whatever is being used suspend the gimbal and camera to not end up bobbing as a spring, but I'm thinking that adding weights as mass to change the resonant frequency and stabilize the vertical movement might be doable. I could sketch an idea in Solidworks if is you might be interested.
Such a fun project! I think the footage looks ace and im sure with a few tweaks you can iron out the little shakes and get it where you want it.
definitely, I’m already working on v2, got lots of ideas from the comments
@@DSLRguide I know it's not the kit you own but the Ronin 4D would be a great solution for this, esp. with wireless control and 4 axis stabilisation.
GENIOUS solution for bike storage, love it
I was so surprised that it’s actually stable and safe up there
Great video, could actually be useful when filming on no-budget in the real world! Thanks for the gear related perspective that's grounded in reality!
Great idea! I'd lower the platform in which you built the rig a little bit and add an arm of some sort from the gimbal rig to the seat post for extra stability. Also, try deflating the wheels a little so they are not too hard. But not too much since it would damage both the tires and the rim. I'm not expert, have never tried something like that, but those ideas came to mind.
Great video. Adding to all the advice, a rented tandem bike might work as well!
I built something similar to film some runners but even with a shock mount in the mix too I couldn’t get the results I wanted. Great video, glad it wasn’t just me that found it tough 😊
few ideas while watching : 1- try to stabilize by adding a bar fixed between the gimbal stick and the seat bar. 2- deflate the tires to absorb the road bumps 3- Why not a tandem bicycle with a driver and an operator? Great work!
Incredible idea, please keep up the good work.🎉
that bike storage in your home is pretty cool for a low cost option
Easiest solution for one man tracking - Ronin S, light weight mirrorless camera with AF, electric longboard. Can’t go wrong, super smooth, and your arms smooth out the bumps!
Great job! A Shock mount its cheap and Will do Wonders. And maybe a gimbal that you could use with a tripod adapter power base like a RS2/3 or Crane.
I get shots like this quite alot with a Ninebot segway mini... even handheld on the segway mini is super super smooth
nice one! I been thinking about rigging to a bike. But i think it'll have to be an electric bike. As a Camera operator, you don't want to have to worry about maintaining speed and the pedaling will create movement.
oh wow that's a giant bike!
Hey, we can help solving the wobble. We built something similar for the rolling shots you can find in our vids, what you need is a high-frequency filtering solution like a z-axys arm or a shock absorber base. The base is what we use: two metal plates joined by tensioned steel ropes, to keep em always at the same distance
Wow, the production quality is pretty insane...
and was that ordinary things?
I’ve been working with him for the last while, I produced & shot his last documentary
I'm just happy to see someone else is rocking Zhiyun Crane 2s other than me 😂
I’ve thought of doing this with my e-bike great job
To reduce some of the vibration from bumps you can try softer more supple tires or reduce the pressure in your tires. A better rack would help a lot. That rack is probably only rated for a few kilos, look for a touring rack.
This is why for one men crew we have an eye focus that does the job. i have done this in 2018 with a7III
I used an osmo pocket 3 with a movmax blade arm and it was amazing. Can't change the lens or anything but it dealt with the z axis so well and the proof was in the shot.
factor in the torque prior to shot and post shot add the time it takes to ramp up and ramp down, on the back of you bike mount a pole with fluorescent markers, on the bike you are shooting, you ask the rider to get the top of their handle with one of the markings on the pole and try as hard as possible to match that whilst shooting, that will keep your focus in shot, its what we do in precision driving for stuntwork in films. Also do not mount the gimbal centre over the front of the wheel you will get slight gimbal lock or something which is called castor effect, it amps the upward movement. Mitchell systems use what is known as a spring rig, you can build one yourself with a set of gas structs or a bungee, People will say deflate tyres or use suspension systems, that just adds more movement, a rigid frame is better, prevents sympathetic oscillation. another massive help is to put matching weights as close to the handlebars as possible so you become more neutral with balancing, the harder your gimbal has to work the more battery you use, and the motors get hotter. Good effort keep it up. I am a former steadicam operator, and spent a long time around U-Cranes (the term russian arm is now banned)
ah wow thanks for taking the time to write this out! I’ll try your suggestions for version 2 :)
This is one of those time when you think:"this is stupid, i can do it better and cheaper myself". and ending up chasing the sunken cost fallacy, great attempt!
Im thinking ronin 4D to smooth out the bumps, programmed camera movements timed with the scene or talent.
well, better to use 2-people setup, this cut costs and makes everything cool and simple
If the camera is slightly off the y axis and maybe held out a little more it might an absorb the up and down jitters.
What happens if you mount the gimbal in flashlight mode, horizontal, instead of vertical? Thinking you may get less bumps as the motors are working to absorb the movement. Also you may be able to mount that forward off the handle bars so you can be the chase car when needed. Other option would be to wear the steady cam harness and rig the gimbal to that, but I bet it is not great for a day of riding.
I would love to see how this sort of rig could work with a DJI ronin 4D camera. Of course that's a $7k camera, but it also replaces all of the extra bits used on the bike rig in one package so no need for the extra gimbal, focus motor, wireless screen etc.. Mainly I wonder if the Ronin's Z axis stabilization would be enough to keep up with the bumps. The 4d has a wireless screen and movement / focus controls, plus lidar proximity focus and subject tracking.
A DJI osmo pocket 3 does this perfectly!
how did you go about mounting that on a bike? I have the osmo pocket 1.
literally been thinking about building exactly same rig. lets see how it works out(will watch the video now)
use those spring mounts for cars! they mitigate the wobbling
Filming on a bike period is really, really hard if you want smooth-looking footage that isn't affected by even the slightest bumps. Even in the smoother shots in your video, I can see the tiny movements from the bumps, the same ones I've seen in my own experience. It seems like the best bet is usually hand held or head held, but that's not necessarily easy to do for an extended period of time, and if one struggles to be one-handed or no-handed on a bike, then it doesn't work out so well. Gopro or other action camera designed for this stuff seems to do better, but such a solution is definitely not ideal in all cases as I also learned from my attempts at doing this kind of stuff. There's some urbanist bicycling channel in NYC that I believe managed to get a decent setup with a Dutch-style cargo bike. I've seen one or two other channels pull it off with a more typical bicycle, though I can't remember who they were.
great video, man! also, AF would help here + there are gimbals that can be programed with a phone to track subjects; I know my dji ronin sc had that option
It is like watching an average climber doing solo for the first time. 😂
Great video thank you for insoiring
nice idea, but 1. you should have used the gimbal in a horizontal rather than a vertical position. 2. a simple action cam has such a good stabilization (at least in bright daylight) and everything is in focus.
Mad enjoyed this
Thanks James, means a lot!
Wake up! New dslrguide video just dropped! ❤
Okay so after watching it I think a mountain bike may have produced better results.
Wow this looks amazing! Would love to try it out for my channel could be perfect for my needs
thanks David! I can hook you up with a custom build for version two, maybe base it around one of your bikes?
@@DSLRguide That would be cool! I was thinking a fancy cargo e-bike with a rear rack might be the perfect bike for your rig to sit on
I’ll message you on Instagram!
So sad that you don’t make it too technical.
I have lived in Hamburg for the last 2 years and the first thing that I bought was a bicycle.
You're alive. And you upgraded your T3i. And you have a beard now.
Let the record show that I didn’t buy the S1H, I rented it!
Your videos are epic. Are you still using the Canon T3i?
in the EUC community, I have seen a lot of videographers and camera operators interested in an EUC, and they are not wrong. Smooth stable video at crazy speeds is possible, especially with suspension EUCs, your hands are completely free though it will take at least a few weaks to learn to ride at that level.
Still watching Simon, from your old mate Jasper, we definitely would have roasted that hair cut around the fire back in the day
Jasper! Long distance roast, ouch
Some of my thoughts on potential solutions to deal with the camera shake.
Option 1: Consider getting a 4th axis system that could attach to the bike and support the gimbal. Scotty Makes Stuff happens to make 4th axis systems, it might be worth reaching out to him about a potential collaboration as if he built you a bike 4th axis for this project he could market it to others for a similar purpose opening up such a solution to everyone; however, the down side is such a solution might be a bit more expensive than some of the other potential solutions.
Option 2: Rent a DJI Ronin 4D for the bike camera, because not only does it have an integrated 4th axis system, the system has dynamic arm adaptation which is likely to result in more stable footage.
Option 3: Consider using a full suspension bike as the 4th axis system, after all it should ahve shocks and prings already in it; however, my gut says this is probably going to be the lest successful solution.
Option 4: If one is willing to sacrifice shallow depth of field, then an insta 360 is potentially one of the least expensive solutions that could solve the issue.
Option 5: For a slightly more robust version of the above consider a DJI osmo pocket 3 along with a MOVMAX 4th axis system attached to the bike, as that can produce a higher resolution end product than the Insta360 for roughly the same price point.
With regards to the focus, either use a system that can auto focus, like some Sony cameras or to a lesser degree lidar auto focus like on the Ronin 4D and let the system deal with the focus for you, keep things at infinite focus, or lastly use a DJI Focus pro set to auto focus, and then manually override it if you get into a situation you need to. Trying to be the first AC while also the driver is a recipe for extreme difficulty or even failure because hit ones mark consistently while focusing on the road ahead of you is extremely dangerous and hard to repeat.
thanks for all the ideas, this will be very useful for version 2!
i did a something similar with a gimbal and a skateboard indoors solo. it was technically possible, but yeah i missed the collaboration part. also when working solo like that you kinda have to wait for lightning to strike. whereas if you work with others you share the load and can be a bit more consistent.
hey dude, nice to hear from you! Next I’m going to try rollerskates for hopefully more agility.
collaboration is ideal for precision for sure, the folks filming cars were able to get a wild level of consistency from their movements
Amazing !!
Great video! However there is one issue you might run into. I heard that if you mount your phone to a motorbike it messes up its image stabilization and the camera starts shaking. I don't have any first hand experience and don't know if it could happen with bikes but wanted to let you know anyways!
I wonder if a bike with front and rear suspension would help with absorbing the bumps.
Super dope.
So you basically built a super fancy, expensive, over-engineered rear mirror for your bicicle? 😁👍
also a very fragile!
I never would have even attempted these shots without auto focus. That's a non-starter. Nope. But it's fun to try. We learn more from the mistakes.
TO be honest you can use the DJI LiDar for Focus and DJI Gimble with Raven Eye will get the job done. you just don't have the best tools for the job but this a good concept
Maybe you could try a Shock-Absorbing Camera Gimbal Support Arm System
big up bikes
would like t see a side by side comparison with an Insta 360 X4 8K 360 video that can be reframed in post
Lower the tire pressure a lot. It'll smooth out the bumps.
A bike with a step-through frame would make it easier to get on and off.
Ok so I have never used a gimbal before, but would holding the gimbal at a 45° angle instead of vertical be better? Then you would be using one more of the joints and therefore one more degee of freedom for stabilisation
I hadn’t thought of that! I’ll have to test it out