Weight sorting pellets for my airgun... what a difference!
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Welcome to the worm hole! I bought my first PCP about 12 years ago when I couldn't get 22lr ammo. They are addictive, unlike a standard rifle where you have to find what works, you can tune them to work with most any ammo. It's definitely a blast to tinker with!
Good group for the amount of wind. Love watching you.
Thanks Erik for your time and the video, I learned many things,
Thank You for taking up Pellet Rifles not all of us can afford regular Rifles, even though the cost of a pcp is still up there but it still gives us hope with cheaper guns, Thank You
If you don’t want to weight sort try the Zan pellets. They’re match grade and already sorted. Utah Airguns has them in stock.
Definitely looking forward to more videos on this!
You got it!
Hi Erik, You might consider getting a Weirauch HW100 because its designed to prevent loading 2 pellets. I was using an FX Dreamline for a while to practice PRS around the house, but tired of that very quickly because in PRS we move with bolt open. With an air rifle the bolt stroke is so short that I frequently double stuffed the chamber. Eventually I switched to the HW100 and would never go back. The mags on the Weirauch HW100 are genius because they prevent pellet skirt deformation. Make sure you don't get an FSB model tho... FSB is full shrouded barrel. You want the solid steel barrel. Accuracy is crazy good, but more than than, the trigger is as well and you cannot double feed pellets as a bonus that few other rifles may offer. I put mine into an Aeron chassis that has worked out quite well.
I can see your trigger control in the video! Most excellent. BZ
Looking good, next will be getting the lab radar in operation and further testing tweaking the hammer spring slightly to see if there is any improvement of accuracy for a particular pellet. The least excess air behind the pellet , the better.
Eric, the reason for waiting between shots in a reg'd AG is not the same reason as waiting in a firearm. You see, the reg has to settle between shots. A good reg can do it in 15-20 seconds Others take as long as 30 seconds. Also, fire at least two shots after a fill or top off to again, settle the reg.
Our mutual friend can tell you who I am and my AG history. I'm known as the Knife Maker. I was on the forefront of designing/testing and making slugs for long range in PCP's. I think you would like them!Even though conventional wisdom said that hp's could not perform in AG's make for myself HP's that literally explode in vermin. Violently!
I do follow your shooting exploits in firearms. Impressive!!!
KnifeMaker
ok, your learning and having fun. Airguns are awesome👍
From the UK, I have own a lot of centre fire and rim fire rifles and pistols from 300 rum down to 22 . but I still really enjoy shooting air rifles, god bless.👍
I find myself holding my breath.
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I’m breathing and squeezing an “air trigger” 😅🤣😂
FX Impact may have a superior valve system and if you combine that with slugs, you get another step change in accuracy.
The Swedish crown is down 25ish % on the dollar so your FX should be cheaper than ever.
Cheers from Sweden
@@Greyzonecompliant im from South Africa so that does not really apply to me 🤣😭
Back in the day when I was doing competition I was running the diablos through a die to make sure the OD are identical
A rear wind hits the skirt of the pellet and will steer it all over the place more than a 90 degree crosswind. I have a FX MK2 in .30 caliber, watch videos about tuning the gun, you need to set regulator pressure, hammer spring and valve opening and get one hole groups before you put on your tuner. P.S. I have your tuner on a Vudoo 360 .22LR and it WORKS. Tuning your gun first is equal to load development.
Been a few year's since being involved in the competiton scene with pcp air rifles. Back then as well as batching them in sizes they would run them through sizing dies to ensure consistency in diameter. I guess this is much the same as a mandrel for neck tension. Man of your skills could nock something up in the workshop in no time!
People run the bullets through dies as well prior to loading them into a cartridge
@EricCortina I can never shoot the red star either damn carnival trickery haha ❤
I know. Lol
Been a shooter most my life. Powder burners. I love my rimfires. Started getting into more precision shooting with my centerfire rifles. Got into PCPs about 4 yrs ago. It reminds me of bow hunting. Tuning your bow to certain arrows, overdraw or no overdraw, different flight systems. They can be temperamental, but if you mess with them and get them tuned right, with the right ammo, they are a freaking blast. That gun needs to be tuned. Your speed makes a huge difference with pellet accuracy. Most try to get it around 880 if I believe correctly. Maybe try a few more types of pellets, maybe slugs, and you could be stacking lead at 100 yards.
I've been using these for 20 years and had good results in my air gun
First thing I thought of is sorting the pellets. And you need a few more bottles!😊
Man.... I have been putting off buying one of these but now I am gonna have to order one up!
They are fun!
@ErikCortina I can tell! After the first video I was starting to think it wasn't worth it but after seeing you get the air and whatnot figured out, I think it's a must have now.
Living in the Netherlands I can only shoot airguns. Been following this channel for some years but I'm really looking forward to join Erik in his journey to learn how to shoot airguns well. No doubt I'm going to learn a lot from this. Already did from all his information on normal guns but this I can really apply.
Do you care for Hunting? I started with self made a sling shot back around 1957. Got a Air gun(Bow and arrow also) when about 10-12 yrs age. And hunted with it deep into the forest. My parents allowed me to go there. By 18-19 my Mother(Father aprooved) got me my first shotgun. But the important part was I target shot almost every day with the air gun, and learned control. Absolutelly important when you upgrade to 22LR and high power rifles. Shotgunning a dif sport. You don't aim at a target, you point ahead of the target. Bird hunting allowed in Holland. If you can afford it, Why not👍AND do not forget to teach your children in the future.
@WillyK51
I also live in the Netherlands. no, our government does not allow us to hunt. you are only allowed to hunt if you are a certified hunter with a year of training. we are not yet allowed to shoot a fly in the Netherlands.
BS. Living in the Netherlands,I’ve been shooting real guns since 35 years now . Yes you have to have a license , but if you have no criminal background you’re fine.
@@Johnsormani en wat is er onzin dan ?.
Wij mogen in principe geen wapens hebben klaar tenzij je een verlof hebt.
En jagen is voor ons helemaal uit ten boze tenzij je gecertificeerd jager bent daar ging t over.
@@jigoro865 is antwoord op de opmerking dat we in nederland alleen luchtbuksen mogen hebben en dat is natuurlijk onzin.
Erik try some ZAN SLUGS ,33G AND LUBE THEM WITH IMPERIAL SIZING DIE WAX!! Clean the barrel shoot ab 30 lubed slugs , through to "season"the barrel and your good to go, Nd they thrive on spees ,rgds steve uk
You need to try the JTS pellets .25.39 They are remarkable in all of my 25 calibers. They're amazing.
Survived a Pellet Squib...good man...💣
I know. 🙈
Your finding out how picky that pellet rifles are. Pelletgauge has a tray to sort for head size, which will eliminate flyer’s. Every pellet has a velocity range it like’s typically between 860-880 fps. In zero wind, that gun should hit a fly at 50 yds once you find what it likes. If you have not tried the JSB 25 grain pellet, you really need to
Single shot loading tray is the way to go for best accuracy, magazine sometimes damage the pellet.
I love my PCP. Squirrels don't but I do.
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Cute puppy ❤ The way he was sniffing around I thought he was about to drop a deuce in the background. hahaha
Yeah, I thought the same when I saw the video. Lol
I belive a lot of the accuracy in a pressurized system is in the valving in the gun
Eric maybe do a video on break action pellet rifle, like a Gamo, for those of us with what we can affors, still fun.
Honing in 👍🏻
Yup, I knew that you were going to weight sort. Next is sizing .217 or .218 .
Great fun 👍
Right on
Try some slugs . I’ve got a small fortune in pcp air rifles they are a whole lot of fun and the big bore pcps are fun to hunt with
The air in the gun is the gunpowder in a rifle
For what it’s worth, if you need to stretch your dollar, Krale in the Netherlands and Best Fittings in the UK are often less expensive sources of ammo, air tanks, and more, especially if you watch the exchange rate.
Just an fyi... JSB allows for a 2.5% variance in head diameter and weight. So that's why you may or will see the differences in pellets from the same tin.
for pellets lower reg pressure and slower speed is best. sub 920fps
i think you should sample some slugs out to 100 and more
Need to sort the pellets then washed and lube.. check if group get tighter…
The reason to wait between shots is the regulator needs to settle the pressure in the plenum at the valve. BUT if you wait the same amount of time between each shot * no matter the time interval* that SHOULD not matter as much, as the pressure in behind the valve in the plenum should be the same...so... 'it's your thing, do what you wanna do..." 🙂
Good point/comment. Additionally, i don't think it's necessary to refill the bottle after only 12 shots as Eric did between the 2 different batches of pellet. Unless the gun is unregulated, which i seriously doubt. All these modern high end PCP air rifles that have a regulator, will give very consistent shot performance regardless of the tank/bottle pressure, UNTIL the pressure in the bottle drops to the level that the regulator is set at.
The plenum on the rapid action fills pdq as its not that big. The plenum on an FX M3 is a lot larger and takes a second or so to refill. In any event by the time one had resettled on target all is good.
@@stillair1 Why are u responding to something i didn't say? My comment had nothing to do with refill time of the plenum b/w tank and regulator. I was addressing the question of whether it's necessary to top up the tank/bottle on a regulated PCP air rifle. It isn't, not so long as the bottle pressure hasn't yet dropped to regulator setting.
@@greatwhitenorth762 I don't believe he was or it would say "@great..." like my post does when I click to reply directly to your post... When you hit 'reply' to the original post the "@..." does not show up. In addition he didn't comment on or dispute anything you had to say and filled in information related to the original post (the first sentence) and why for some AG's it is not necessary to pause between shots due to the size of the plenum.
This is what a post looks like when you reply directly to the original (in this case NHGUIDE)... See, no "@" shows up. YT is kind of weird like that compared to most other discussion formats.
You have a very steady hold on that rifle, watching the reticle it barely moves. Have you ever considered trying some sort of shooting competition?
Erik is a match champion in several categories, To many to name 👍
I might try my hand at competing one of these days. 😁
@@WillyK51 Yeah. It was a joke. Erik got it. Sorry you missed it.
Not inclined to buy a PCP air rifle, grew up on springers. Any model you like?
It would be cool seeing u shoot at Texas plinking 1000 yard 1moa challenge
Now try a TRRob Pellet sizer....I like this one cause it sizes the head only and find that perfect Head size for you rifle
Eric! You need to know the velocity of your projectile man! Diabolos get unstable over 900fps, ideal would be 850-880 and with a chrony you can check out the consistency too!
I'm here for the Camera set up. Tracked down the scope and I already see this is out of my league. You got some pretty expensive toys there, buddy. But still what's that camera on your scope.
If it's. 177 , I've used the Crossman premier 7.9grain round nose pellets,they have to come out of die 2 only
He's shooting a 25 cal
Hi Eric. What shooting mat are you using and what would you recommend for all around shooting in the field if i may ask?
This has probably been covered before and sorry if it has, but what happened to the barndo channel. I still watch and learn to this day especially the how to read foundation plans episode.
Try some "JTS" dead center pellets. They shoot a little better than the JSB's in all my guns.
The quality of lead pellets are reflected in the price. Always check for deformation and weigh them.
Thank you
@@ErikCortina I've been shooting pcp for 18 years. Cheap fun.
Those rifles have a regulator. You should be able to get at least 3 mags, before the pressure falls off the regulator. Check the ES. The tricky thing is the ballistics with the pellets. They are quite droppy. Things work best if you keep them subsonic. ~900 fps. is a good starting point.
I really really dont need a air gun but boy that looks fun. Erik you need a tunner supressor/moderator. You'd have to invent that but hey your not that busy of a guy. Haha
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@@ErikCortina And talk to the guys at DonnyFL, they might be able to come up with something that can integrate with your tuner (collaboratively).
Hi Eric, first of all outstanding content on your channel really enjoy learning reloading and shooting info but my question is regarding your scope and if you in fact utilize the full 50 power while shooting/competing?
Yes I can. Some shooters use up to 80x
@ErikCortina thats unbelievable! I recently acquired razor 6-36 being usually 5-25 and thought this was alot, thank you for your input!
I shoot airgun field target. Our targets are 10 to 50 yards. I use a 50x scope, as is typical in the sport. I usually don't change magnification except on the kneeling or standing lanes. I will shoot as close as 10 yards with 50x. It's just practice.
That gun shoots pretty good, but you can get much better results with a different setup. I suggest you get Ted Bier or Justin Jacobson from Utah Airguns on your podcast. I've met them both and they are great guys. Ted has so much shooting knowledge to share. You could talk with him for hours. Justin can talk about anything, but it would be great to hear his story and talk about the rapid rise of PCP airguns since he founded Utah Airguns in 2016.
Just curious, looks like there's a lot of key-holing going on. Is that what you see also and why? In centerfire key-holing is a sign of badl stabilization of the slug/bullet.
i watched a little of your video was i not seeing something correctly or was it keyholeing at 50 yards?
hello mr cortina ,that gun has a lothar walther barrel , and i see the pellet going like mine gun with a lothar match barrel also .25 with a litte bent ,, see it going in the scope , the pellets must not go faster then 250 ms set the reg between 105 and 135 and hammerspring tension at high and turn hammer spring iback til speed is droppng and is in range and constant speed
level the scale prob help
Use a pellet sizer. What camera are you using ?
Pellets, it seems like a huge rabbit hole to work into….😊
Just up the road from you here in Schattel the wind gets crazy in the afternoons. We even get dirt devils big enough to turn tables over and my metal target rack. Sometimes I have to set a couple of paving stones on the feet to keep it from blowing over. What happened to the Vudoo project? You didn't sneak that past us did you.
No, not yet. Coming soon.
While you are at it might as well pick up a RimX action and throw one together. @@ErikCortina
Does anybody know what scope cam that is? Is that the tactacam?
o wow. Massive difference.
Yes. I’m happy.
I want to see Speedy behind that - open up another worm hole
You need to attend one of our Extreme Airgun competitions 20 to 105 yrds near Waco
If you can, try adjusting the velocity of your pellets. The gun I use 570 fps is best.
If every 10 shots, the accuracy decreases and the barrel needs to be cleaned to recover, what is the situation and how should we handle it?Can you give me some guidance？thank you
Try use chronograph so you can determine why some shots are not in place… also try to shoot at 210 bar will see what the rifle can do..
Everything groups at 50yds. Stretch them out to 100yds. The diabolo shape if the pellet's greatest thing and its worst thing. It uses the skirt to stay on course and it scrubs alot of speed as well. Get a head size gauge and size all the pellets. get all the different sizes from the tin and see which diameter the barrel likes best.The head size is the key to best accuracy.
Tune the velocity to somewhere between 880 and 905 and you might get more consistently tighter groups also pellet head diameter will make more of a difference than the weight on accuracy
Over 910fps and they seem to get squirrely
You do know the JSB MK II’s come in 2 varieties. Match sorted and regular. Pyramydair has both.
I did not know that! Thank you.
Id love to see a Teds Holdover collab…
You did it😇
Challenge set
Texan vs M3?
.25 vs .30?
What ever happened to Jason and the needs more series ?
How do the scopes hold up to the air gun?
Since it is no springer, they will be fine
What can you do with a Daisy Red Rider?
Not much 😢
I use argon or nitrogen in my air rife. More consistent
If you’re going to do most of your shooting at 50 yds stay with pellets. If you’re going to go 100 yds and beyond then you’re going to have to experiment with slugs. The JSB Match sorted pellets take a lot of the time and work of sorting out for just a little extra money.
Thank you
Totally random question. Erik are you a concreter by trade??
What was the FPS on these?
Just looked like some were keyholeing but I was watching on a small phone.
Erik what cal is that rifle
He had said in the previous video that it's a 25 cal
250 bar of pressure? Wow!
Yeah! Crazy.
Why don't you do some 6 ppc learning videos
Tunner em.
Well I love your gun. Pretty Windy, if it was calm obviously your groups would be much nicer and I doesn't look like the pellets are much different
That's money
Thank you
So...because of this new found attraction, does this mean you might be trying to make the Olympic team?
They come in boxes of 1250, I belive I have about 50000 left
No better training tool in the world than to shoot pcp imo. I have two and my kids train off the deck and consistently kill birds at 110yds.
you can just leave the bottle hooked up for even better consistency
Erik, you say when you start copy the top boys and go from there, for god sake talk to TedHoldOver. 😂😂😂
That your own advice.😂😂😂
Tried. Haven’t heard back from him.
I GET BETTER RESULTS WITH MY GAUNTLET WITH A DONNY FL SHORT SHROUD AND A JEFFERSON TUNE UP KIT SPLIT A PLYING CARD IN HALF AT 50 YARDS . DONT FORGET THE DONNY SUMO SUPPRESSOR AND ALL YOU CAN HEAR IS THE ACTION . 115 SHOTS WITH A LARGE NINJAS TANK WITH ADJUSTABLE REG . 870 FPS CHRONO'D 22CAL WITH CROSSMAN HOLLOW POINTS HAWKE 2-7X32 1" SCOPE
I know you own wind zero, use it.. your groups will shrink even more..
Over the years you have probaly found one gun likes a given load where another copy of the same gun doesnt like that load. Also you have found a gun can shoot many different loads shoot well or one that shoots ok with most loads but one load shoots much better.
Air rifles are no different. It takes just as much load development with air as it does with powder.
You watch pretty soon he’ll be shooting slugs out at 300 yards
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Bahahahaha... welcome to airguns... weight sorted, sized, crimped and primed... for what its worth nothing ive tried works past a good tune... around 900fps for pellets. Same as 22lr... maybe i moght be as so bold but ive had great results with jsb (rredesigned monster) and also HandN both pellets and their slugs. My barrel is a bit picky but the HandN 25gr .218 seemed to be the best
Also you will see huge results with cleaning.... chalk and cheese with fouled vs cleaned
Hi Erik, you might find this interesting. You perhaps could build a new airgun specific tuner. Could be very lucrative as there are millions of air rifles out there.
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