Great buoyancy control, but I agree with some of the comments that it's better if the reel is already connected to the SMB before diving to limit underwater fiddling in potentially unfavorable conditions.
This is a skill demonstration. To show proficiency in handling potentially fiddly kit whilst maintaining good buoyancy control, trim and spatial awareness. In a regular dive the SMB + spool would be already connected and launched as needed.
It appears to be a new drill. I've never seen anyone do it this way in the real world yet although I expect I will soon and then it will become the standard and incorporated into the skill set so I guess we'll just have to get up to speed.
Why exactly do you clip the boltsnap to the line before releasing the dsmb? Wouldn't it be safer to leave it at the D-Ring? On the line, it might catch on the spool (nicely seen in your video) and result in losing the spool. Would love to here your considerations...
The boltsnap on the line has the purpose of facilitating the winding up of the line around the reel when going to the surface. When you reach the 5 meters and you have to do safety stop (or any other deco stop by any given depth) you can then secure the line to the reel by clipping the boltsnap to one of the side holes of the reel. This way, the reel will float at the desired depth and if you lose it from your hands it will not fall to the bottom. If you leave the boltsnap attahed the D-Ring it will be no use anymore.... I personally clip the boltsnap to the D ring of my BCD while shooting the SMB and then clip in again to the line when I want to wind it up.
Doesn't make sense to me either. Double ender should be removed from the spool and clipped off to the right side chest d-ring unless you need to lock off the spool for a visual reference when at deco stop depth. Leaving it on the spool like that just seems to present more opportunity for the line to foul up while the smb is going to the surface.
Well narrated? I wish videos like this added audio to the video that explained DO’s and dont’s. How full should the DSMB be inflated? What are the considerations in holding onto the inflated DSMB in regard to buoyancy control? Etc. Etc. Just because you see something done correctly doesn’t mean you have an understanding, from that, of why certain things were done the way they were, that you may not note otherwise.
Interesting method of teaching a new diver to take out their regulator and then use all their air to orally inflate the dsmb, This will then want to go to the surface whilst the inexperienced diver is trying to now put the regulator back into his mouth. I'm not convinced on this one but please carry on and ill keep on doing it my way, whereby I keep my regulator in my mouth giving me air.
I can deploy a SMB in 10 seconds. Stop fiddling around with lines and knots. Unless you use the line for something else, 99% of the times it will be used to deploy the SMB. Keep it connected.
@@brois841 if you’re with a group and someone else is already doing their safety stop, and you need to get it up for the boat, then you might not have that luxury.
@@shadowlandstudios86 that's not how it works. If you're with others you do all these things as a team. Nothing you've said changes the situation. Even if your buddy is done, you aren't... so you have time to launch an SMB.
hmm,i have issues with this,1 why is the smb and spool not connected in the first place,2 why leave the double ender on the spool during deployment,3 try this with 5mm gloves on next time with finger movement limited due to cold.4 would it be easier to have a one handed operation ratchet reel in stead.5 why not use an open ended smb so you can inflate it with the reg still on your mouth or one which can be attached to a low pressure hose.
1.) This is a skill demonstration to show proficiency in maintaining buoyancy, trim and awareness while undertaking a slight amount of task loading. In a normal dve they are connected 2.) The double ender helps as a line guide to prevent a bird nest from occurring, it works even better if you hold the double ender. Winding the line in is also easier with the double ender. 3.) How about 1 degree water using dry gloves and thick liners? Practise until proficient in your preferred/required exposure protection. 4.) A rachet reel is more complicated than a spool and introduces ways of fudging this skill, especially with those 5mm gloves you alliuded to. 5.) Open ended DSMBs which don't self seal can empty and sink. Oral inflate DSMBs can be inflated with a Low pressure inflator but you introduce snag risks and the potential for the SMB to fill at a rate that the diver is unable to control.
When you locked the spool, you twisted the double ender to make a turn around the double ender before clipping to the reel. Can you explain the reason and advantages?
I would guess it is for added safety so that everything is locked tight together. Then, doing the last twist with the other end of the double ender seems to be a bit too redundant. But it is personal.
I see a safety risk by oraly inflating. this is naturaly recompressing air back in your lungs, not helping the de-saturation, and / or increasing a risk in case of patent foramen ovale.
Putting pressure on your lungs by blowing air in your SMB manually seems not a good idea after a Deco-dive! But if you didn't do an intensive dive, this seems like an option yes. But keep it in mind... Also my point of view: attach your dubble ender after your SMB reached the surface. It might happen it will get stuck behind your spool, I speak of experience.. ;)
This is a TRAINING video, teaching people how to rig the two together. If the spool & SMB are already pre-rigged, the audience is losing 15% of the lesson of the video.
And switch your reg setup to a long hose setup if you're going to use a BP+Wing. That octo clipped to a D-ring and the reg hoses creating wide loops... what a joke!
95% of the dive shops in the world rent standard hose setup. While I prefer the long hose too, it is no way near main stream. Rarely do I see someone other then my self on a Recreational dive in South Florida using a long hose. I would say, 1 boat in 20.
The ISE video made so much natural senses… this video leaves me perplexed!
Great buoyancy control, but I agree with some of the comments that it's better if the reel is already connected to the SMB before diving to limit underwater fiddling in potentially unfavorable conditions.
This is a skill demonstration. To show proficiency in handling potentially fiddly kit whilst maintaining good buoyancy control, trim and spatial awareness.
In a regular dive the SMB + spool would be already connected and launched as needed.
It appears to be a new drill. I've never seen anyone do it this way in the real world yet although I expect I will soon and then it will become the standard and incorporated into the skill set so I guess we'll just have to get up to speed.
Better you have the line/spole connected all the time to the smb - so you save time
I agree. i dont understand why spend time under water.
Why exactly do you clip the boltsnap to the line before releasing the dsmb? Wouldn't it be safer to leave it at the D-Ring? On the line, it might catch on the spool (nicely seen in your video) and result in losing the spool. Would love to here your considerations...
The boltsnap on the line has the purpose of facilitating the winding up of the line around the reel when going to the surface. When you reach the 5 meters and you have to do safety stop (or any other deco stop by any given depth) you can then secure the line to the reel by clipping the boltsnap to one of the side holes of the reel. This way, the reel will float at the desired depth and if you lose it from your hands it will not fall to the bottom. If you leave the boltsnap attahed the D-Ring it will be no use anymore.... I personally clip the boltsnap to the D ring of my BCD while shooting the SMB and then clip in again to the line when I want to wind it up.
Doesn't make sense to me either. Double ender should be removed from the spool and clipped off to the right side chest d-ring unless you need to lock off the spool for a visual reference when at deco stop depth. Leaving it on the spool like that just seems to present more opportunity for the line to foul up while the smb is going to the surface.
Very well filmed and narrated video thank you
Well narrated? I wish videos like this added audio to the video that explained DO’s and dont’s. How full should the DSMB be inflated? What are the considerations in holding onto the inflated DSMB in regard to buoyancy control? Etc. Etc.
Just because you see something done correctly doesn’t mean you have an understanding, from that, of why certain things were done the way they were, that you may not note otherwise.
Outstanding Control of launching a DSMB.
Interesting method of teaching a new diver to take out their regulator and then use all their air to orally inflate the dsmb, This will then want to go to the surface whilst the inexperienced diver is trying to now put the regulator back into his mouth. I'm not convinced on this one but please carry on and ill keep on doing it my way, whereby I keep my regulator in my mouth giving me air.
well... new diver no need to deploy smb yet. by the time they learn to deploy, tkaing out reg is very minor thing.
taking a regulator out of your mouth briefly to inflate an smb shouldn't be a challenge to a properly-trained diver
@@elmo319 do you want to risk entangling your regulator with the SMB?
@@elmo319 that only works if you have an open-bottom SMB... the oral inflation valve only models don't work like that.
Its a very good way..👍👍💯
I can deploy a SMB in 10 seconds. Stop fiddling around with lines and knots. Unless you use the line for something else, 99% of the times it will be used to deploy the SMB. Keep it connected.
Just curious.... does it really matter when you have a long deco + safety stop anyway?
Yeah that took forever! What a waste of precious under water time.
@@brois841 if you’re with a group and someone else is already doing their safety stop, and you need to get it up for the boat, then you might not have that luxury.
@@shadowlandstudios86 that's not how it works. If you're with others you do all these things as a team. Nothing you've said changes the situation. Even if your buddy is done, you aren't... so you have time to launch an SMB.
It's a skill demonstration it's meant to be slow so that people can learn from it. That's what RAID are, a dive agency. They teach diving. Wolly
Your deco stop is done by the time you actually launched it
hmm,i have issues with this,1 why is the smb and spool not connected in the first place,2 why leave the double ender on the spool during deployment,3 try this with 5mm gloves on next time with finger movement limited due to cold.4 would it be easier to have a one handed operation ratchet reel in stead.5 why not use an open ended smb so you can inflate it with the reg still on your mouth or one which can be attached to a low pressure hose.
1.) This is a skill demonstration to show proficiency in maintaining buoyancy, trim and awareness while undertaking a slight amount of task loading. In a normal dve they are connected
2.) The double ender helps as a line guide to prevent a bird nest from occurring, it works even better if you hold the double ender. Winding the line in is also easier with the double ender.
3.) How about 1 degree water using dry gloves and thick liners? Practise until proficient in your preferred/required exposure protection.
4.) A rachet reel is more complicated than a spool and introduces ways of fudging this skill, especially with those 5mm gloves you alliuded to.
5.) Open ended DSMBs which don't self seal can empty and sink. Oral inflate DSMBs can be inflated with a Low pressure inflator but you introduce snag risks and the potential for the SMB to fill at a rate that the diver is unable to control.
Can you please share the sizes of the bolt snaps used?
When you locked the spool, you twisted the double ender to make a turn around the double ender before clipping to the reel. Can you explain the reason and advantages?
I would guess it is for added safety so that everything is locked tight together. Then, doing the last twist with the other end of the double ender seems to be a bit too redundant. But it is personal.
Wrapping the second end is very useful in waves to keep the DE from disconnecting against a sudden rise of the spool. Not sure about the first.
Incidentally, the lack of audio explaining considerations and reasons for doing things makes for a poor instructional resource.
Is that enough air for the smb?
I see a safety risk by oraly inflating.
this is naturaly recompressing air back in your lungs, not helping the de-saturation, and / or increasing a risk in case of patent foramen ovale.
Hey guys question when would you deploy our smb?
To mark your location while you perform a safety stop. So the boat knows where you’re going to come up
Putting pressure on your lungs by blowing air in your SMB manually seems not a good idea after a Deco-dive! But if you didn't do an intensive dive, this seems like an option yes. But keep it in mind...
Also my point of view: attach your dubble ender after your SMB reached the surface. It might happen it will get stuck behind your spool, I speak of experience.. ;)
joke method have it already on the spool should take 8 seconds in current you would be out to sea and out of view, go practice
Agree. Leave it rigged up in your pocket. No need to futz around with rigging it underwater.
This is a TRAINING video, teaching people how to rig the two together. If the spool & SMB are already pre-rigged, the audience is losing 15% of the lesson of the video.
Bolje da je kalem vec spojen u jednu cjelinu, brze se otvara i ne gubi se vrijeme,, u mutnom je to vazno.
And switch your reg setup to a long hose setup if you're going to use a BP+Wing. That octo clipped to a D-ring and the reg hoses creating wide loops... what a joke!
95% of the dive shops in the world rent standard hose setup. While I prefer the long hose too, it is no way near main stream. Rarely do I see someone other then my self on a Recreational dive in South Florida using a long hose. I would say, 1 boat in 20.
Bad!
Tu fais beaucoup trop de manipulation, fatalement un jour tu lâchera le spool...ou le double D