Zhiyun used misleading images to convince you to buy this product. When in reality, this gimbal is not suited for a full-frame camera (or sometimes any camera). Does that make it a SCAM? Probably... Not sure how they got away with it. Have you ever bought a product after watching a review and it's 💩💩💩💩?
I did search of hiyun crane m2 disadvantages and found your video in top list. I was about to purchase this gimble but your video realized me not to buy this gimble. Thank you for putting your review video of this gimble.
I had that gimbal. It worked great for my a6500 at that time, took a bit for me to calibrate and get it set up, but it worked…. but when I got the fx30… it was a bit to heavy for it and no such luck. But great video, interesting insight… love your work
I'm prospecting this to use it with my a6400 with the kit lens or the 1.8/35mm one. not thinking about getting a bigger camera - i'm filming run&gun so portability is my main concern. could you please let me know if the stabilization is fine? can you do a 180 from ground level to above the head? Thanks in advance Danny :)
I wouldn't give a number, but more than half of reviewers are just glorified sales persons, and this sucks for the whole platform. If you see a reviewer who has tons of videos and they are switching from one brand to another and from a lens to another, and most of their reviews are indoor...that is a big red flag, unsubscribe, comment and dislike. It will help that viewers, reviewers and even marketing firms more than you think!
Nice review, im running the M2 with zve10/viltorox 23 f1.4. it works fairly decent when shooting landscape. but is inconsistent when shooting vertical. I experienced the tilted horizon as well, but fixed it after ensuring it was PERFECTLY balanced and did the 6 sided calibration. I think it comes down to weight. I dont have an issue when using the kit 18-55mm. I think it gets the job done, but really frustrating when i come home and see my footage looks like it was taken during an earthquake. I ordered the Yongnuo 11mm 1.8 and going to test with that. I dont think its a great run and gun gimbal
Help, I’m stuck on this gimbal? I couldn’t decide choosing DJI Ronin-SC Gimbal Stabilizer between Feiyu SCORP-C 3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizer or Feiyu AK2000S. The reason why Zhiyun WEEBILL-S Handheld Gimbal is popular for some users is the batteries are replaceable and each user would need to carry 4 or more batteries to used their gimbal for long events. Because Both are fantastic gimbal, DJI Ronin-SC body can be separated into two parts that can fit inside your small bag for travel purposes. On the other hand Feiyu SCORP-C had that comfortable grip body curve shape. If only the Feiyu Scorp-c can be separated by two parts I would go over them. Hoping that feiyu would come out with two parts separate like dji design. I’m not sure about Feiyu AK2000S. It a older model line of gimbal. Maybe it isn’t the right time to buy a gimbal for me and I wait until feiyu would come out that can two parts separate for easy travel. I would stay away from zhiyun for quality issues and some users reporting their gimbal breaks easily in couple of days ☠️. Also their service can be painful to deal with it. Because you have to shipped back the broken gimbal.
I have a dji sony gimbal for the Sony zv 1...but it doesn't do a thing for my stabiliser ...i can't get my gimbal to connect with my camera so my camera is useless what can i do ...am going to sub your channel thanks pal
I'm ever so slightly confused, online and on the box it pretty clearly states it has carrying weight and size restrictions. I'm not sure if it's honest to discredit a product for being advertised as something it isn't supposed to be by third parties and funky marketing (I mean, there's so much stupid marketing for camera's and camera products... Like videos shot on much more advanced products sold as shot by the camera offered, we should know better by now) because you didn't do your own research. I've been on and off considering a gimbal for two years and never have any stores told me anything but 'this one is good for crop sensors and camera gear up to 900g' so I'm absolutely mystified how you got stuck with this issue.
I'm not going to write a lengthy reply and just say read the rest of the comments on this video. I'm not the only one with this experience and no this gimbal didn't publicly state a weight limit at the time of writing.
@Jack It’s a bit curious how you never actually respond to any arguments and just keep telling people off when they criticize your presentation. I mean i’m not even close to being a pro on any of this, but after analyzing this gimbal I can already tell that even the first issue you listed, which is the camera hitting the gimbal, can easily be fixed by adjusting the back slider, which you have pulled out all the way for some reason. Regardless, obviously this doesn’t take away from the fact that if your camera isn’t compatible you’re still going to have issues. And yes even other reviewers pointed this out 2 years ago when this came out. Are other reviewers paid to advertise? Sure. However, just because others might be wrong in whatever case, that doesn’t make you correct, that’s simply not an argument. And for every overly positive fake reviewer out there there’s often a negative counterpart. What matters is if you’re correct or not.
@@activekernel Agreed, mine works perfectly fine with my Canon M50 Mark ii with the Kit lens, because I read the list of compatible cameras before purchasing it, the first gimbal came in defective, I contacted their CS line, and I got a new one after sending back the deffective one, no questions asked, excellent service support, and I have never done a review for the product, my channel was nothing to do with equipment or photography, so you can't say that they are paying me for this. BTW with practice, now it takes me 55 seconds to balance it from 0.
Thanks for being so honest bro. I've been eyeing this for a month now. And i have enough money to buy now. But still looking for honest review like yours. So. Zhiyun m2s is cancelled now for me. 😮😮
So I should forget it because I use DSLR Camera with 18-55 lens. What is your recommendation to buy an affordable gimbal to support heavy cameras like mine?
Thank you so much. I was about to commit to the M2s for my ZV-1 (with the Neewer extension lens and Rode wireless) and ZV-e10 (similar accessories) for the size and weight. I will just stick to my beat-up M3 then 🙏
Thanks for this! I was convinced that it would support a Fuji X-T30 with the 18-55 kit lens plus a grip handle, about 600 g, but it just loses the horizon line. I've had it set up in a specialized Fuji shop but they couldn't improve that horizon line issue, it just goes up and down, I'll try to return it 🙂 the marketing sucks these days 😀
I tried a Zhiyun Webill many years ago and returned it immediately. It took forever to balance (when I seldomly could), the locking mechanisms didn't work very well, and from time to time, the motors seem just "give up". I thought maybe I was doing something wrong...but these gimbals are junk and cheaply made......stay away.
I have the gimbal and I used it with a ZV E1 and Samyang 24mm F2.8 and it would loose the horizon 2 or 3 times in a half hour shoot. I used the same camera with Tamron 20-40 F2.8 and it was very good in another half hour shoot. It didn't screw the horizon line which is very weird because this is a heavier combination. I will test it further. I have to say that you are not completely right when you say reviewers are over hyping products because they want to receive free products perpetually, they give glorious reviews because they want to sell more through their affiliate marketing links which is way worse😢
I too had the same issues. The joystick popped out and camera keeps just rolls to the side and makes the footage tilted. I work with the Sony a6400 with a kit lens. What do I do now? Should I return it?
@@JackWoodhams The Rokinon Cine AF lenses are light and compact. They’re made for gimbal work. Combined with the FX3 they work great on the M2-S . The best feature of the Rokinon CINE AF lenses are that they (20, 24, 35, 45, 75) are all the same size and weight, so once one lens is balanced, they're all balanced.
The two good gimbal are the weebill 3 and probably the RS3 mini. They are easy to balance, support heavier camera, are compact and lightweight, good range of motion, usable for pro usage and travel. The weebill 3 advantages is ergonomy, center of gravity, light and mic enbedded, portait mode, sling mode. Rs3 mini advantages is weight, bluetooth control without cable and without pc remote ctrl, nato rails.
@@JackWoodhams Not a ton of them but little things...I don't think it can hook up to the focus motor, smaller screen, doesn't fold completely flat without disassembly. The one thing that I know it doesn't have is the physical mode switch (grown to love that). I'm not ripping it by any means, I just like the RS3 that I have.
@@JackWoodhams i think it is probably the better choice for the customer service. I heard zhiyun has no us service anymore. So impossible to get something repair even after 5 months ( from one guy comments online that i believe). Wb3 has good features but if something goes wrong you are out of luck. I hope dji has a repair service in america.
a little tip about balancing the gimbal: you also should chech the black bottom kit. you may make your camera closer to the gimbal and it helps to find the balance point.
I am so upset. I charged this gimbal with a regular usb c to usb c cable and it won’t turn on anymore. I’ve read online that it needs to use usb A to C but that is the dumbest thing that I’ve heard
I have this Gimbal with a ZV-1 and I hate it. It would take me over 20 minutes to balance it and I watched multiple videos showing me how. Then while using it for a few minutes it would go into sleep mode constantly no matter what mode I was in.
Great review, was thinking about buying the M2S instead of the DJI RS3 mini mainly because of his size... You have any sugestions? Now using the ZVE10 with a heavy sigma lens (I saw your thoughts about the zve10 ;) But in near future want to upgrade to a A7... or FX30. Thanks
The gimbal works for my zv-e10 and a6600 only if I have a light lens. I tried using it with the 6600 and the heavy Viltrox 13 and it just wouldn't do it. The zv-e10 with the Viltrox 13 barely got away with it, but the gimbal was really struggling. I ended up having to use my backup kit lens just to get it working.
This is my first and only gimbal, i've been using it for 8 months now with zv e10 + samyang 12mm f2 or sel 35mm f1.8 and i never got any of this problems
I have this gimbal and I balance the A7C with the Sony 85mm 1.8 lens on it without any problems. But the product is of very poor quality, front button stopped working after a couple of weeks, the battery is short-lived, and this is by no means for professional use, but only for amateurs and enthusiasts (as shown by it price under $200).
Jack is spot on in this review of this gimbal. It is a d r e a d f u l piece of 💩. Balance a full frame camera? Nope. Balance an iPhone 14 ProMax? NOPE! I will never buy another Zhiyun product.
i got fooled . my gimbal (m2s ) like you said never stays straight on the horizon no matter what I do , what camera I use even if its a phone . its worst product ever and i am extremely frustrated from the day i bought it . feel like smashing it into pieces.
@@JackWoodhams I really wish I saw this video before I bought it. You’re a real one. Thanks for this video and information. Not many people are genuine like that nowadays
I use mine with a gx80 and a oly 12-40 2.8(Pany 15mm & 25mm 1.7 too) on the front and it's good. I probably get away with it because the camera body is on the smaller size for M43. Definitely not suitable for FF though as you say.
I was about to buy this for my Sony ZV-1 for vlogging. Thanks for the honest review. I have a Ronin RS3 mini but I wanted something smaller and cheaper for vlogging. I love my Ronin but don’t want to use it for my daily vlogs.
Also no it doesn't... Because the recommendes weight now for this gimbal is 2.2 lb / 998 g although that's still pushing it. Good luck putting 1.5kg on it. 😂 You must be looking at a different gimbal.
I have exactly the same issues with the Feiyutech Scorp mini. I use the Lumix S5 and the EVF hits the back of the gimbal, but I use the camera with the small Lumix prime lenses not with a zoom or a big Sigma or Lumis Pro lens and it was advertised with Sony A7S2 or 3 and other YT-ers used it with the same camera but never talked about the EVF hitting the back. I get it I can move over and go to underslung mode but I cannot do it while filming cause it will stuck. I also know how to balance cause I used 5 different gimbals so far and thought that will be my go to one cause of the weight. I had a Zhiyun Weebill 2 before and it was heavy, hence I changed.
I think they maximum load is about 700 grams, so it is deceiving to advertise it with a picture of a FF camera. I was thinking of buying it for my ZV-1 but it looks like you had issues with that small camera as well
Yeah I did, also to make it balanced it needs to be pushed right up to the gimbal axis meaning you can't even use the provided usb cable to control it as the flap won't open. So dumb.
Coming from the weebill s I have downsized to the crane m2s. Used the canon m50 with no prob. I now use the canon r8 plus 16mm rf, the 35mm rf, or the kit lens. Works fine, no clearance issues. Anything heavier than the 35mm rf will probably wont work as it is on its upper limits
@@JackWoodhams @JackWoodhams i just know how to use it and what it can and cannot do. It is designed for apsc mirrorless cameras but can handle full frame to a certain degree. It can fly full frame mirrorless cameras but limited to compact lenses.
@@vincentsfuntimeworld5007 right so you're the only one in the entire comments who knows how to use it. Dude I've owned several gimbals and cameras and can tell you this doesn't work as it should with bent horizons and constant going 😴 because the payload is too heavy. Think you're either chatting 💩 or paid by Zhiyun 😂
@@JackWoodhams it does not matter if you think im the only one who can use it. You should be more open minded and respect other people's experience even if its opposite of your one. Just becuase it did not work for you does not mean it wont work for everyone. Why are you making me look silly and ridiculing me just because it worked for me? Dont be an infant mate.
@@vincentsfuntimeworld5007 More open minded and respectful after he says "i just know how to use it and what it can and cannot do." implying I don't know how to use it. Are you done?
Everyone trying to buy a gimbal, do yourself a favour and read the camera and lens compatibility guide. Every gimbal manufacturer puts one out when they release gimbals. Zhiyun as well. If you dont see your camera and lens combo listed there, assume its not been tested. In the a7 series for example Zhiyun has specifically said you may need to remove the eye piece on the camera to balance properly. Another thing is its one thing for the camera to balance straight on but there definitely is guarantee that it will work perfectly when tilting or trying to do 360 movements. For some that works and for others they want full functionality. As far a watching reviews, I have NEVER bought anything based reviews that come out day one or that contain pre production models. You never know what they are testing. As far as the reviewers themselves, they dont have every single camera model and lens combo to test. So just rely on what they show you on the video. Remember the basic concept of gimbals is balance. Payload means nothing if you have a light body and a heavy lens. Thats the mistake I see a lot of folks making. Just because payload is 8 lbs doesnt mean it will balance if its front heavy. If you have no practice using gimbals it doesnt matter what gimbal you get. You will not achieve the same level of quality someone with more practice and time has. I'm still using the trusty Moza Air 1 and recently picked up a Zhiyun Weebill S. The main issue with all of Zhiyuns M lineup of gimbals has been that there is no room to use a dummy battery or charging cable because the ports are blocked by either the pan arm or the tilt arm. And these smaller cameras and phones (which is the target of these gimbals) run out of battery very very fast.
This one literally didn't have a payload listed anywhere when it was released 😬 Blaming the user is pretty annoying, I know how to balance a gimbal. Nothing you can do would fix this particular model it would always slant over time.
@@JackWoodhams Not having clearance for eyepiece cap means gimbal isn't usable. I'm glad you reported this, saved me $$$ as this info wasn't available readily.
I just got mine 2 days ago, and the vortex mode just doesn't work, my Canon M50 is much lighter than the weight this gimbal is claimed to be supportive of (~1500 grams) but the vortex wouldn't go pass 45degrees on either side and noticed the motors are overheating. I do see some videos where people were able to achieve it it with the same camera and gimbal but it's not working for me and there is definitely clearance issue at some axis/angles. This is my first ever gimbal use/test, bought for my upcoming trip videos but totally disappointed. May be I should stick to my GoPro
I have a review coming up of a much better gimbal that actually does vortex mode on my A7iii! So definitely would work with the M50. If I were you I'd try return this one.
@@JackWoodhams I ordered a replacement to see if this is an isolated problem for this piece or it's M2S problem, and surprise surprise, same issue. This gimbal can't even handle basic lens weight (15-45mm). However it does vortex with just the body on lol ridiculous!! Please inform your viewers that the claim of 1.5 kgs bearable weight for this gimbal is a BS.
The thumb handle for me broke, so when I turn it on it simply start spinning. (Client got hyped and thought I had a 360 camera, 😂 no I’m struggling!) don’t waste your money with it.
I'm facing the same problem with my Sony A6400 and Sigma Lenses. But I actually bought it for GoPro Night Videos. And I'm not even using it for GoPro most of the times.
In a nutshell, 1.) your lens is too big. 2.) I think you need more balancing practice. fine tuning. oil the rails to make it easy. 3.) joystick - heavy use/wear and tear, It's low quality I agree but it can be fixed with superglue. 4.) horizon issue - recalibrate the gimbal from time to time. it's recommended even in complex machines. it's "homing" the gimbal to the horizon. It's going off center due to the changing magnetic fields, gravitational fields, heat, temperature inside the encoders/gyroscopes. It's called drift. Your issues are highly noted. I hope Zhiyun can improve on this
@@KurtBarcelona 1. the lens isn't too big. It comes under the weight "tolerance". Also the 24mm is one of the smallest and lightest lenses available. 2. I've used gimbals on plenty of shoots and know how to balance them. Bold of you to assume that I don't know what I'm doing. 3. The joystick shouldn't just come off. Whether you fix with super glue or not. 4. Again, shouldnt be required every time you use the gimbal. This has never been an issue on any gimbal I've used. In a nutshell, Zhiyun marketed this incorrectly and used false advertising.
Am I the only one who is shocked that it has no zoom and that no one is mentioning it?? It's a toy for smartphones without, or am I missing something. Oh and of course no smartphone holder included while big pics of it on the amazon page.
tengo una fuji xt3, es mi primer estabilizador, lo compré por que en la lista de camaras compatibles está esa configuración fuji xt3 con el 23mm y la verdad completamente no e podido balancearla, el queda balanceado pero los efectos de spiral o otro modo no funciona el estabilizador solo en modo normal
¿Cuál es el problema cuando está en modo V u otros modos? ¿Intentó configurar el par motor de forma personalizada? Asegúrese de que el eje de giro esté bien equilibrado.
Sadly both feiyu tech and Zhiyun is creating crappy products. Also they are releasing gimbals like phones, every 8-10months a new one is out. Suddenly the gimbal you just bought at 600$ is discounted by 300$ and guess what? there is no more firmware updates. And if the last firmware update is buggy and they release a new model, they wont even care go back to fix it ( i got this issue with feiyu tech )...I also lost the joystick on the crane 2s but good thing it was in the car and notice it indeed had no glue, so went put it back with some glue. It does hold insane amount of weight but very often i have to do a hardware reset as it starts to lag heavily and not follow my movements. Good thing i barely use gimbals but lately its becoming more used and after using my friends ronin rs3/rs2 am thinking of going dji route.
Zhiyun used misleading images to convince you to buy this product. When in reality, this gimbal is not suited for a full-frame camera (or sometimes any camera). Does that make it a SCAM? Probably... Not sure how they got away with it.
Have you ever bought a product after watching a review and it's 💩💩💩💩?
They do have a camera + lens compatibility list on their website and a Six-side calibration instructions in the manual if the level deviates slightly.
What gimbal do you recommend for a sony z-v1
@@MrVeteranVlogsweebils
I did search of hiyun crane m2 disadvantages and found your video in top list. I was about to purchase this gimble but your video realized me not to buy this gimble. Thank you for putting your review video of this gimble.
I had that gimbal. It worked great for my a6500 at that time, took a bit for me to calibrate and get it set up, but it worked…. but when I got the fx30… it was a bit to heavy for it and no such luck. But great video, interesting insight… love your work
Thanks Danny! Appreciate all the support 👏
I'm prospecting this to use it with my a6400 with the kit lens or the 1.8/35mm one. not thinking about getting a bigger camera - i'm filming run&gun so portability is my main concern. could you please let me know if the stabilization is fine? can you do a 180 from ground level to above the head? Thanks in advance Danny :)
Did your record button work with fx30?
gimbal i have the ZV-E10 and it just wont balance. Might work for my GoproMax
90% all the reviews on youtube are false
Yep!
I wouldn't give a number, but more than half of reviewers are just glorified sales persons, and this sucks for the whole platform. If you see a reviewer who has tons of videos and they are switching from one brand to another and from a lens to another, and most of their reviews are indoor...that is a big red flag, unsubscribe, comment and dislike. It will help that viewers, reviewers and even marketing firms more than you think!
@@pauuuuul87 exactly.
Nice review, im running the M2 with zve10/viltorox 23 f1.4. it works fairly decent when shooting landscape. but is inconsistent when shooting vertical. I experienced the tilted horizon as well, but fixed it after ensuring it was PERFECTLY balanced and did the 6 sided calibration. I think it comes down to weight. I dont have an issue when using the kit 18-55mm. I think it gets the job done, but really frustrating when i come home and see my footage looks like it was taken during an earthquake. I ordered the Yongnuo 11mm 1.8 and going to test with that. I dont think its a great run and gun gimbal
I think this gimbal can work with sony zv e10 and sony 11mm f1.8, since both are small and lightweight.
You can refer this list: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20230905/1693882689102-NKjPzM47.pdf
Help, I’m stuck on this gimbal?
I couldn’t decide choosing DJI Ronin-SC Gimbal Stabilizer between Feiyu SCORP-C 3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizer or Feiyu AK2000S. The reason why Zhiyun WEEBILL-S Handheld Gimbal is popular for some users is the batteries are replaceable and each user would need to carry 4 or more batteries to used their gimbal for long events.
Because Both are fantastic gimbal, DJI Ronin-SC body can be separated into two parts that can fit inside your small bag for travel purposes. On the other hand Feiyu SCORP-C had that comfortable grip body curve shape. If only the Feiyu Scorp-c can be separated by two parts I would go over them. Hoping that feiyu would come out with two parts separate like dji design.
I’m not sure about Feiyu AK2000S. It a older model line of gimbal.
Maybe it isn’t the right time to buy a gimbal for me and I wait until feiyu would come out that can two parts separate for easy travel.
I would stay away from zhiyun for quality issues and some users reporting their gimbal breaks easily in couple of days ☠️. Also their service can be painful to deal with it. Because you have to shipped back the broken gimbal.
Thanks for this honest review, preventing me from wasting money, because this product was already in my basket.
What gimbal should I get for my vlogging..i have the Sony zv 1...am not happy with the Sony zv 1
try DJI gimbal bro, or maybe go to the store to try
@@LuoiEdit I bought it 😂🤣🤣..but the Sony zv 1 camera is absolutely useless
I have a dji sony gimbal for the Sony zv 1...but it doesn't do a thing for my stabiliser ...i can't get my gimbal to connect with my camera so my camera is useless what can i do ...am going to sub your channel thanks pal
I'm ever so slightly confused, online and on the box it pretty clearly states it has carrying weight and size restrictions. I'm not sure if it's honest to discredit a product for being advertised as something it isn't supposed to be by third parties and funky marketing (I mean, there's so much stupid marketing for camera's and camera products... Like videos shot on much more advanced products sold as shot by the camera offered, we should know better by now) because you didn't do your own research.
I've been on and off considering a gimbal for two years and never have any stores told me anything but 'this one is good for crop sensors and camera gear up to 900g' so I'm absolutely mystified how you got stuck with this issue.
I'm not going to write a lengthy reply and just say read the rest of the comments on this video. I'm not the only one with this experience and no this gimbal didn't publicly state a weight limit at the time of writing.
@Jack It’s a bit curious how you never actually respond to any arguments and just keep telling people off when they criticize your presentation. I mean i’m not even close to being a pro on any of this, but after analyzing this gimbal I can already tell that even the first issue you listed, which is the camera hitting the gimbal, can easily be fixed by adjusting the back slider, which you have pulled out all the way for some reason. Regardless, obviously this doesn’t take away from the fact that if your camera isn’t compatible you’re still going to have issues. And yes even other reviewers pointed this out 2 years ago when this came out. Are other reviewers paid to advertise? Sure. However, just because others might be wrong in whatever case, that doesn’t make you correct, that’s simply not an argument. And for every overly positive fake reviewer out there there’s often a negative counterpart. What matters is if you’re correct or not.
@@activekernel Agreed, mine works perfectly fine with my Canon M50 Mark ii with the Kit lens, because I read the list of compatible cameras before purchasing it, the first gimbal came in defective, I contacted their CS line, and I got a new one after sending back the deffective one, no questions asked, excellent service support, and I have never done a review for the product, my channel was nothing to do with equipment or photography, so you can't say that they are paying me for this. BTW with practice, now it takes me 55 seconds to balance it from 0.
Thanks for being so honest bro. I've been eyeing this for a month now. And i have enough money to buy now. But still looking for honest review like yours. So. Zhiyun m2s is cancelled now for me. 😮😮
So I should forget it because I use DSLR Camera with 18-55 lens. What is your recommendation to buy an affordable gimbal to support heavy cameras like mine?
Thank you so much. I was about to commit to the M2s for my ZV-1 (with the Neewer extension lens and Rode wireless) and ZV-e10 (similar accessories) for the size and weight. I will just stick to my beat-up M3 then 🙏
Thanks for this! I was convinced that it would support a Fuji X-T30 with the 18-55 kit lens plus a grip handle, about 600 g, but it just loses the horizon line. I've had it set up in a specialized Fuji shop but they couldn't improve that horizon line issue, it just goes up and down, I'll try to return it 🙂 the marketing sucks these days 😀
I tried a Zhiyun Webill many years ago and returned it immediately. It took forever to balance (when I seldomly could), the locking mechanisms didn't work very well, and from time to time, the motors seem just "give up". I thought maybe I was doing something wrong...but these gimbals are junk and cheaply made......stay away.
I have the gimbal and I used it with a ZV E1 and Samyang 24mm F2.8 and it would loose the horizon 2 or 3 times in a half hour shoot. I used the same camera with Tamron 20-40 F2.8 and it was very good in another half hour shoot. It didn't screw the horizon line which is very weird because this is a heavier combination. I will test it further. I have to say that you are not completely right when you say reviewers are over hyping products because they want to receive free products perpetually, they give glorious reviews because they want to sell more through their affiliate marketing links which is way worse😢
I too had the same issues. The joystick popped out and camera keeps just rolls to the side and makes the footage tilted. I work with the Sony a6400 with a kit lens.
What do I do now? Should I return it?
100% return it.
It’s a shaky image if you keep your camera in hand still for say few moments. Not sure if I need OSS in my lens.
The M2-S works great on my FX3 with Rokinon Cine AF lenses. I love this gimbal! You just can't push it beyond its limits.
There's no way you've got the FX3 on there with cine lenses, if it can't even handle a ZV1
@@JackWoodhams The Rokinon Cine AF lenses are light and compact. They’re made for gimbal work. Combined with the FX3 they work great on the M2-S . The best feature of the Rokinon CINE AF lenses are that they (20, 24, 35, 45, 75) are all the same size and weight, so once one lens is balanced, they're all balanced.
The two good gimbal are the weebill 3 and probably the RS3 mini. They are easy to balance, support heavier camera, are compact and lightweight, good range of motion, usable for pro usage and travel. The weebill 3 advantages is ergonomy, center of gravity, light and mic enbedded, portait mode, sling mode. Rs3 mini advantages is weight, bluetooth control without cable and without pc remote ctrl, nato rails.
I've been thinking of getting the RS3 mini!
I like my RS3 for my A7iv. I think the mini would be great for travel but its missing a few things and I really don't mind the weight.
@@ChristophKindred What features are missing? I'm not fully clued up on it
@@JackWoodhams Not a ton of them but little things...I don't think it can hook up to the focus motor, smaller screen, doesn't fold completely flat without disassembly. The one thing that I know it doesn't have is the physical mode switch (grown to love that). I'm not ripping it by any means, I just like the RS3 that I have.
@@JackWoodhams i think it is probably the better choice for the customer service. I heard zhiyun has no us service anymore. So impossible to get something repair even after 5 months ( from one guy comments online that i believe). Wb3 has good features but if something goes wrong you are out of luck. I hope dji has a repair service in america.
Subscribed just bc of the honesty 🙌🏽💯
Thank you so much
a little tip about balancing the gimbal: you also should chech the black bottom kit. you may make your camera closer to the gimbal and it helps to find the balance point.
I am so upset. I charged this gimbal with a regular usb c to usb c cable and it won’t turn on anymore. I’ve read online that it needs to use usb A to C but that is the dumbest thing that I’ve heard
I have this Gimbal with a ZV-1 and I hate it. It would take me over 20 minutes to balance it and I watched multiple videos showing me how. Then while using it for a few minutes it would go into sleep mode constantly no matter what mode I was in.
Great review, was thinking about buying the M2S instead of the DJI RS3 mini mainly because of his size... You have any sugestions? Now using the ZVE10 with a heavy sigma lens (I saw your thoughts about the zve10 ;) But in near future want to upgrade to a A7... or FX30. Thanks
Probably best looking at the new DJI RS 3 Mini
@@JackWoodhams Thanks !
Happy I went for the Scorp Mini, no issues and very happy with the features and vertical arm
The gimbal works for my zv-e10 and a6600 only if I have a light lens. I tried using it with the 6600 and the heavy Viltrox 13 and it just wouldn't do it. The zv-e10 with the Viltrox 13 barely got away with it, but the gimbal was really struggling. I ended up having to use my backup kit lens just to get it working.
@@ethanadams9135 yes very disappointing gimbal
The main takeaway from this should be: this product isn’t meant for full frame cameras. I thought that was pretty clear from the beginning
@@liceafilms didn't make it very clear on the advertising
Thanks for the video. They are now being heavily discounted and it might be just the thing to use with my small, light X100V!
Probably still won't work. 😂 X100v weighs 480g. The zv1 weighs 300g.
Works for me with my X100V.@@JackWoodhams
Finally someone who said it, I have some of these issues with my little Sony ZV-1
Yeah! Was about time somebody spoke out!
Thank you for sharing your opinion honestly! We need that!!
Thanks Jerry 🙏
I was scammed by youtubers on this. I see a lot of problems when my order came. Gladly I just have apsc so I still can use it.
This is my first and only gimbal, i've been using it for 8 months now with zv e10 + samyang 12mm f2 or sel 35mm f1.8 and i never got any of this problems
I have this gimbal and I balance the A7C with the Sony 85mm 1.8 lens on it without any problems. But the product is of very poor quality, front button stopped working after a couple of weeks, the battery is short-lived, and this is by no means for professional use, but only for amateurs and enthusiasts (as shown by it price under $200).
Is it good enough for phones?
Just get a DJI osmo mobile for that
The maximum payload is listed as 998g (or just shy of a kilogram). But thanks for your valuable insight, I'm currently looking around for a gimbal.
Absolutely no way is it supporting 998g
Oh balls I bought one secondhand first time out today with a ZV1. Gutted to see this review after my purchase.
Jack is spot on in this review of this gimbal. It is a d r e a d f u l piece of 💩. Balance a full frame camera? Nope. Balance an iPhone 14 ProMax? NOPE! I will never buy another Zhiyun product.
I was almost going to order this for my iPhone 15 Pro Max and stuff that i add on but now i will just continue to use my monopod :P
Did the record button work for you? Because it doesn't work with my sony fx30, maybe anyone know any solutions?
I couldn't even get the cable in for my ZV1 as it threw the whole thing off balance
@@JackWoodhams Too sad.. Can't trust these sponsored RUclipsrs who say misleading stuff and people buy crap gadgets
i got fooled . my gimbal (m2s ) like you said never stays straight on the horizon no matter what I do , what camera I use even if its a phone . its worst product ever and i am extremely frustrated from the day i bought it . feel like smashing it into pieces.
Sorry you experienced the same problem! This gimbal should have been recalled
@@JackWoodhams I really wish I saw this video before I bought it. You’re a real one. Thanks for this video and information. Not many people are genuine like that nowadays
@@NiketBhanushali my channel has always focused on being 100% truthful. If a product sucks I'll call it out 🫶
reading your comment had me on the floor lmao
What is the alternate for APSC (a6500)?
Subscribe because I have a great gimbal that I'll be posting a review for soon 👍
I use mine with a gx80 and a oly 12-40 2.8(Pany 15mm & 25mm 1.7 too) on the front and it's good. I probably get away with it because the camera body is on the smaller size for M43. Definitely not suitable for FF though as you say.
I was about to buy this for my Sony ZV-1 for vlogging. Thanks for the honest review. I have a Ronin RS3 mini but I wanted something smaller and cheaper for vlogging. I love my Ronin but don’t want to use it for my daily vlogs.
Glad I could help!
5:20 false: on Amazon they write maximum weight recommendation is 1500 grams.
Well that's completely wrong 😂 because it can't even handle a 750gram zv1... 😤
Also no it doesn't... Because the recommendes weight now for this gimbal is 2.2 lb / 998 g although that's still pushing it. Good luck putting 1.5kg on it. 😂 You must be looking at a different gimbal.
@@JackWoodhams but i Double checked on Amazon and it says 1500 grams.
@@isoladellerosetv well it's wrong or you're looking at the wrong gimbal.
@@JackWoodhams I’m looking at the German Amazon page of the official page of the gimbal
Thank you for this video, I almost bought it for my ZV-1
was about to buy it... thanks on heads-up
I have exactly the same issues with the Feiyutech Scorp mini. I use the Lumix S5 and the EVF hits the back of the gimbal, but I use the camera with the small Lumix prime lenses not with a zoom or a big Sigma or Lumis Pro lens and it was advertised with Sony A7S2 or 3 and other YT-ers used it with the same camera but never talked about the EVF hitting the back. I get it I can move over and go to underslung mode but I cannot do it while filming cause it will stuck. I also know how to balance cause I used 5 different gimbals so far and thought that will be my go to one cause of the weight. I had a Zhiyun Weebill 2 before and it was heavy, hence I changed.
I think they maximum load is about 700 grams, so it is deceiving to advertise it with a picture of a FF camera. I was thinking of buying it for my ZV-1 but it looks like you had issues with that small camera as well
Yeah I did, also to make it balanced it needs to be pushed right up to the gimbal axis meaning you can't even use the provided usb cable to control it as the flap won't open. So dumb.
Thanks
Coming from the weebill s I have downsized to the crane m2s. Used the canon m50 with no prob. I now use the canon r8 plus 16mm rf, the 35mm rf, or the kit lens. Works fine, no clearance issues. Anything heavier than the 35mm rf will probably wont work as it is on its upper limits
Maybe you were the only one on the planet to get a working one 😂
@@JackWoodhams @JackWoodhams i just know how to use it and what it can and cannot do. It is designed for apsc mirrorless cameras but can handle full frame to a certain degree. It can fly full frame mirrorless cameras but limited to compact lenses.
@@vincentsfuntimeworld5007 right so you're the only one in the entire comments who knows how to use it. Dude I've owned several gimbals and cameras and can tell you this doesn't work as it should with bent horizons and constant going 😴 because the payload is too heavy. Think you're either chatting 💩 or paid by Zhiyun 😂
@@JackWoodhams it does not matter if you think im the only one who can use it. You should be more open minded and respect other people's experience even if its opposite of your one. Just becuase it did not work for you does not mean it wont work for everyone. Why are you making me look silly and ridiculing me just because it worked for me? Dont be an infant mate.
@@vincentsfuntimeworld5007 More open minded and respectful after he says "i just know how to use it and what it can and cannot do." implying I don't know how to use it. Are you done?
Everyone trying to buy a gimbal, do yourself a favour and read the camera and lens compatibility guide. Every gimbal manufacturer puts one out when they release gimbals. Zhiyun as well. If you dont see your camera and lens combo listed there, assume its not been tested. In the a7 series for example Zhiyun has specifically said you may need to remove the eye piece on the camera to balance properly.
Another thing is its one thing for the camera to balance straight on but there definitely is guarantee that it will work perfectly when tilting or trying to do 360 movements. For some that works and for others they want full functionality.
As far a watching reviews, I have NEVER bought anything based reviews that come out day one or that contain pre production models. You never know what they are testing. As far as the reviewers themselves, they dont have every single camera model and lens combo to test. So just rely on what they show you on the video.
Remember the basic concept of gimbals is balance. Payload means nothing if you have a light body and a heavy lens. Thats the mistake I see a lot of folks making. Just because payload is 8 lbs doesnt mean it will balance if its front heavy.
If you have no practice using gimbals it doesnt matter what gimbal you get. You will not achieve the same level of quality someone with more practice and time has.
I'm still using the trusty Moza Air 1 and recently picked up a Zhiyun Weebill S.
The main issue with all of Zhiyuns M lineup of gimbals has been that there is no room to use a dummy battery or charging cable because the ports are blocked by either the pan arm or the tilt arm. And these smaller cameras and phones (which is the target of these gimbals) run out of battery very very fast.
This one literally didn't have a payload listed anywhere when it was released 😬
Blaming the user is pretty annoying, I know how to balance a gimbal. Nothing you can do would fix this particular model it would always slant over time.
@@JackWoodhams Not having clearance for eyepiece cap means gimbal isn't usable. I'm glad you reported this, saved me $$$ as this info wasn't available readily.
Great video. I myself were very interested in these gimbals but, like you pointed out I could never find a payload max .
Thank you! I felt so bad after buying it. Very disappointing. Oh well - I'll probably get the new DJI one!
@@JackWoodhams I've been eyeing the new DJI 3 mini myself. I just hope it can handle my Xh2s and my Tamron 17-70 .
I just got mine 2 days ago, and the vortex mode just doesn't work, my Canon M50 is much lighter than the weight this gimbal is claimed to be supportive of (~1500 grams) but the vortex wouldn't go pass 45degrees on either side and noticed the motors are overheating. I do see some videos where people were able to achieve it it with the same camera and gimbal but it's not working for me and there is definitely clearance issue at some axis/angles. This is my first ever gimbal use/test, bought for my upcoming trip videos but totally disappointed. May be I should stick to my GoPro
I have a review coming up of a much better gimbal that actually does vortex mode on my A7iii! So definitely would work with the M50. If I were you I'd try return this one.
@@JackWoodhams I ordered a replacement to see if this is an isolated problem for this piece or it's M2S problem, and surprise surprise, same issue. This gimbal can't even handle basic lens weight (15-45mm). However it does vortex with just the body on lol ridiculous!! Please inform your viewers that the claim of 1.5 kgs bearable weight for this gimbal is a BS.
@@JackWoodhams Let me know which gimbal is that, I have a travel coming up in a month time
The thumb handle for me broke, so when I turn it on it simply start spinning. (Client got hyped and thought I had a 360 camera, 😂 no I’m struggling!) don’t waste your money with it.
Wow so glad people are finding this video and shading their views on this 💩💩gimbal
@@JackWoodhams dude at B&H told me not to buy the hype persuaded me.
@@SirAlmightyAllseeinjah718 wow ethical salesman. 👏
I'm facing the same problem with my Sony A6400 and Sigma Lenses. But I actually bought it for GoPro Night Videos. And I'm not even using it for GoPro most of the times.
Unfortunately it's 💩💩
@@JackWoodhams sometimes shit happens.
I use zve10 with this and no issue so far
Thanks for this. I actually cancelled my order.
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In a nutshell,
1.) your lens is too big.
2.) I think you need more balancing practice. fine tuning. oil the rails to make it easy.
3.) joystick - heavy use/wear and tear, It's low quality I agree but it can be fixed with superglue.
4.) horizon issue - recalibrate the gimbal from time to time. it's recommended even in complex machines. it's "homing" the gimbal to the horizon. It's going off center due to the changing magnetic fields, gravitational fields, heat, temperature inside the encoders/gyroscopes. It's called drift.
Your issues are highly noted. I hope Zhiyun can improve on this
@@KurtBarcelona
1. the lens isn't too big. It comes under the weight "tolerance". Also the 24mm is one of the smallest and lightest lenses available.
2. I've used gimbals on plenty of shoots and know how to balance them. Bold of you to assume that I don't know what I'm doing.
3. The joystick shouldn't just come off. Whether you fix with super glue or not.
4. Again, shouldnt be required every time you use the gimbal. This has never been an issue on any gimbal I've used.
In a nutshell, Zhiyun marketed this incorrectly and used false advertising.
Am I the only one who is shocked that it has no zoom and that no one is mentioning it?? It's a toy for smartphones without, or am I missing something. Oh and of course no smartphone holder included while big pics of it on the amazon page.
Mine is also slanted!!! Did anyone by any chance figure out how to fix that?
yeah, return it
you're absolutely right.
I know 😫 wish I wasnt though
@4:22 I had the same with my ZV-1 being tilted
Knew it wasn't just me, good to hear others have the same issue (although sorry it sucks)
Have this problem as well
@@CARMEKANIK just a crappy gimbal unfortunately 😭
Same thing here. It will slowly somewhat self correct itself if you keep it still for a little while, like 30s.
that has been the issue of all their smartphone gimbal. im asuming its too light?
Sigh damn, I was gonna buy it. Thanks, you jujst saved me some funds
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Well - unlucky. This is the difference between professional (expensive) and amateur (cheap) equipment.
Yes i believe tubers ..i will never trust anyone that gets paid promotion...
On the other hand. The app sucks.
so the whole thing sucks?🤨🤨😂😂
will it work with fz300???
It'll only work with zv1 compact style cameras at best. Even then it's a bit wobbly
tengo una fuji xt3, es mi primer estabilizador, lo compré por que en la lista de camaras compatibles está esa configuración fuji xt3 con el 23mm y la verdad completamente no e podido balancearla, el queda balanceado pero los efectos de spiral o otro modo no funciona el estabilizador solo en modo normal
¿Cuál es el problema cuando está en modo V u otros modos? ¿Intentó configurar el par motor de forma personalizada? Asegúrese de que el eje de giro esté bien equilibrado.
You can't trust youtube anymore.
Yup. Exactly like that. Same strory. Such a BS product
Save your money and get a Dji RS3 or RS2. Or a Feiyutech ak2000 for the same price of a Crane M2S. Or just don’t go full frame ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For anything other than a go pro this gimble is shit! Do not buy it!
Sadly both feiyu tech and Zhiyun is creating crappy products. Also they are releasing gimbals like phones, every 8-10months a new one is out. Suddenly the gimbal you just bought at 600$ is discounted by 300$ and guess what? there is no more firmware updates. And if the last firmware update is buggy and they release a new model, they wont even care go back to fix it ( i got this issue with feiyu tech )...I also lost the joystick on the crane 2s but good thing it was in the car and notice it indeed had no glue, so went put it back with some glue. It does hold insane amount of weight but very often i have to do a hardware reset as it starts to lag heavily and not follow my movements. Good thing i barely use gimbals but lately its becoming more used and after using my friends ronin rs3/rs2 am thinking of going dji route.
It does have tracking on the app
Did I say it didn't?
No object tracking for Crane M2S in the app.
hi all i am having a issue withj vibration
That means it not balanced properly
@@JackWoodhams kindly please assist with a video , have a gopro hero 10 and m2s
@@mehzvlogszim I don't have this gimbal anymore but there are plenty of videos online about balancing them
lol thats your fault everyone can tell you dont buy this for a full frame camera lol
Their marketing literally uses a full frame camera. That's called misleading 👍
Thank you! 🙏 Soooo many shills. Scumbags.
this gimbal lame. only thing it's good for is maybe a phone. lol
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