Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice (Philippians 1:15-18) Let Christ be proclaimed. Amen.
If you think atheism is a doctrine or a worldview, you simply don't understand what it is like not to have a stamp collection as a hobby. You cannot leave atheism, you either believe in a deity or you do not.
@@MatthewFearnley Hmmm yea ok, but how exactly does one leave? I don't understand how you can leave atheism, it is just the position for one not to believe in the existence of a deity.
@@courageousmelon5654 in one sense at least, the answer is obvious - you leave “non stamp collecting” by collecting stamps, and you leave atheism by adopting a theistic position or worldview. But perhaps with your objection, you’re trying to strike at something deeper?
@@courageousmelon5654 well i think you are thinking about this the wrong way. It may be easier to think of it like this. With the question of Who created the world? a) no one did b) God did c) don't know Which one do you affirm? Because I'd argue that Ayaan Hirsi moved from option a) to option b)
I have one question for Ayaan: Do you believe that God raised Jesus from the dead? Because Christians do. More and more it's atheists who have to remind Christians what they believe because their religion is devolving into politics.
it means "Christianity" plus "lets forget the old historical-cultural aspect of it that society blamed the J-ewss for killing the Christ and embrace them"
@@JanMaranCrazyface Judeo refers to of or pertaining to Judaism, or the Jewish people and/or religion, that of the people of Judea. Some of these Jews, originally, and eventually a couple billion other people, came to believe that one Jew in particular, Jesus of Nazareth, was the promised Messiah of the Hebrew people, and further that He was, and is , God Incarnate in history. Eventually this sect of Judaism came to be its own religion, the largest in history, open to all peoples. This tradition, beginning with Abraham and culminating in Jesus, is the Judeo Christian tradition. From it and its moral and ethical teachings, come the foundation of Western civilization.
@@c.a.t.732 Don't listen to him. It's Christians like that guy that piss off everyone. Despite his antagonistic proletyzing, please try to see that a transcendent being may be possible, regardless of annoying Christians and their Bible thumping.
@@c.a.t.732 when you live for (for example) Law's glory, or morality's glory, it doesn't add anything to the law or morality, just like if you don't it won't take anything away from them, but if you do... it adds something to you..
@@c.a.t.732 well it's only weird because of the incompatibly of your presupposition and the presuppositions of one who says such a sentence, meaning your concept about God's Glory is totally different than the one who says it, God is not a big man in the clouds or something... God is the creator and sustainer of all life, and in this worldview men try to achieve a level of morality and goodness to become worthy of the life and the creator... i don't see how it would compare to a man and an ant although i'm not a christian and english is not my first language, so i don't really fully understand that sentence either
well... at the rate she is going.. i think she will be a Muslim reformist trying to make the correct interpretative system of religion at about ten years or so...
Nothing much for Christians to get excited about here. Ayraan appears to have merely adopted a cultural form of Christianity as it suits her political agenda. Particularly in the US, power and influence still lie with those proclaiming a Christian faith unfortunately.
Indeed, her opinion piece explaining her reasons for conversion offered more of an insight in to her opportunism and ambition than any heartfelt tale of spiritual discovery.
Just a heads up: watch the judgment. We can certainly be happy when anyone moves closer to Christ. If one suspects impure motives, (a) Who has pure motives? Jesus forgives and loves us even though we only turn to Him when all else has failed; and (b) pray for her just as we need to be prayed for. Christians judging and attacking each other in public is just another example of how we've squandered this Invaluable Treasure. We're guiltier than many open enemies of the Church. (We...as in me too, far too often.)
So like all "atheists who have found Jesus"...she was raised in a Abrahamic religion, found it stifling or oppressive, and then later in life reverted back to her childhood indoctrination, except this time the Christian God instead of the Islamic God?
why? it means "Christianity" plus "lets forget the old historical-cultural aspect of it that society blamed the J-ewss for killing the Christ and embrace them"
I think it's funny how "Atheist" get so upset when someone converts out of their religion. At least they're not calling for her unaliving...that I've seen
She didn't fall for anything. Ayaan doesn't believe the doctrines of Christianity, only the politics that have co-opted it. If you want to see Christianity fail, she couldn't have done you a bigger favor.
@@whomever21 she said atheism is civilizationaly weak which is demonstrably true. She's not the only former atheist arriving at that conclusion. Lower birth rates, comunities that last half as long and even less likely among elite athletes who are disproportionately more religious. Through empirical evidence in one's own life you can see that faith increases the competitiveness of a person. And that's exactly what she said. To this day no atheist civilization has lasted more than 100 years and full on atheist societies tend to be tyranical like China or North Korea. While the Christian monarchies of Europe (even if only nominally Christian these days) and the USA are where freedom really is. While china is trying to build a digital tech god that judges everybody from the digital cloud and gives you a social credit score. That's what Ayaan noticed.
I've listened to her YEARS ago.
Glory to God in the highest, a daughter of Christ has been made known. :D
Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice (Philippians 1:15-18) Let Christ be proclaimed. Amen.
Anyone know what type of church she goes to?
what is the theme music ? its fire 🔥
If you think atheism is a doctrine or a worldview, you simply don't understand what it is like not to have a stamp collection as a hobby.
You cannot leave atheism, you either believe in a deity or you do not.
It's worth noting, but something doesn't have to be a doctrine or worldview in order to leave it.
@@MatthewFearnley Hmmm yea ok, but how exactly does one leave? I don't understand how you can leave atheism, it is just the position for one not to believe in the existence of a deity.
that's exactly why atheism is useless.
@@courageousmelon5654 in one sense at least, the answer is obvious - you leave “non stamp collecting” by collecting stamps, and you leave atheism by adopting a theistic position or worldview.
But perhaps with your objection, you’re trying to strike at something deeper?
@@courageousmelon5654 well i think you are thinking about this the wrong way.
It may be easier to think of it like this.
With the question of Who created the world?
a) no one did
b) God did
c) don't know
Which one do you affirm?
Because I'd argue that Ayaan Hirsi moved from option a) to option b)
I have one question for Ayaan: Do you believe that God raised Jesus from the dead? Because Christians do. More and more it's atheists who have to remind Christians what they believe because their religion is devolving into politics.
It's been a hot minute since her announcement came out and she has yet to articulate her stance on the historicity of the resurrection
@@bathwaterSommelier yet Richard Dawkins is the most Christian person she knows because he likes choral music 😆
@@whomever21 Yeah I recall her saying that. I'm a bit baffled because she is very plainly, at best, 'spiritual'.
The word "judeo-Christian" it does not mean anything
It does
it means "Christianity" plus "lets forget the old historical-cultural aspect of it that society blamed the J-ewss for killing the Christ and embrace them"
You need a capital J; but yes...yes it surely does.
@@jaggedstarrPI “judeo” and “Christian” are contradictory at its most fundamental level. Tell me how it makes sense and what it means
@@JanMaranCrazyface Judeo refers to of or pertaining to Judaism, or the Jewish people and/or religion, that of the people of Judea. Some of these Jews, originally, and eventually a couple billion other people, came to believe that one Jew in particular, Jesus of Nazareth, was the promised Messiah of the Hebrew people, and further that He was, and is , God Incarnate in history. Eventually this sect of Judaism came to be its own religion, the largest in history, open to all peoples.
This tradition, beginning with Abraham and culminating in Jesus, is the Judeo Christian tradition. From it and its moral and ethical teachings, come the foundation of Western civilization.
Atheists can be born again, by receiving Jesus Christ as LORD and Saviour. you will know the purpose of your life -- to live for God's glory
"To live for God's glory"? God must be awfully needy.
@@c.a.t.732 Don't listen to him. It's Christians like that guy that piss off everyone. Despite his antagonistic proletyzing, please try to see that a transcendent being may be possible, regardless of annoying Christians and their Bible thumping.
@@c.a.t.732 when you live for (for example) Law's glory, or morality's glory, it doesn't add anything to the law or morality, just like if you don't it won't take anything away from them, but if you do... it adds something to you..
@@kooshanjazayeri Still seems like a weird reason to live, "for God's glory". Like thinking some ant at my feet should live for my glory.
@@c.a.t.732 well it's only weird because of the incompatibly of your presupposition and the presuppositions of one who says such a sentence, meaning your concept about God's Glory is totally different than the one who says it, God is not a big man in the clouds or something... God is the creator and sustainer of all life, and in this worldview men try to achieve a level of morality and goodness to become worthy of the life and the creator... i don't see how it would compare to a man and an ant
although i'm not a christian and english is not my first language, so i don't really fully understand that sentence either
its going to be strange to see the reactions when she comes full circle and realises she is actually a Muslim again
i dont think she wont
@@thatissoquebecishh2134 i agree...meaning i think she will
She won't...she's a wise, good person...she won't embrace that poison again...put your house on it!!
well... at the rate she is going.. i think she will be a Muslim reformist trying to make the correct interpretative system of religion at about ten years or so...
Nothing much for Christians to get excited about here. Ayraan appears to have merely adopted a cultural form of Christianity as it suits her political agenda. Particularly in the US, power and influence still lie with those proclaiming a Christian faith unfortunately.
Indeed, her opinion piece explaining her reasons for conversion offered more of an insight in to her opportunism and ambition than any heartfelt tale of spiritual discovery.
Just a heads up: watch the judgment. We can certainly be happy when anyone moves closer to Christ. If one suspects impure motives, (a) Who has pure motives? Jesus forgives and loves us even though we only turn to Him when all else has failed; and (b) pray for her just as we need to be prayed for.
Christians judging and attacking each other in public is just another example of how we've squandered this Invaluable Treasure.
We're guiltier than many open enemies of the Church.
(We...as in me too, far too often.)
So like all "atheists who have found Jesus"...she was raised in a Abrahamic religion, found it stifling or oppressive, and then later in life reverted back to her childhood indoctrination, except this time the Christian God instead of the Islamic God?
which is actually the same God (from the point of view of Muslims of course)
Found the Truth and the True God @mashah1085
@@TheLifeProTips You mean agrees with you?
Judeo Christian is such an oxymoron I cringe when I hear people say it
why? it means "Christianity" plus "lets forget the old historical-cultural aspect of it that society blamed the J-ewss for killing the Christ and embrace them"
they tryin hard xD
I think it's funny how "Atheist" get so upset when someone converts out of their religion. At least they're not calling for her unaliving...that I've seen
Sad to see. Atheism is correct.
To bad for her.
Atheism is the true position.
No religion. No socialism.
She is SO dull
Truly a shame to see great secular thinkers falling to utter nonsense
Internet Atheist cry .
gonna cry ?
She didn't fall for anything. Ayaan doesn't believe the doctrines of Christianity, only the politics that have co-opted it. If you want to see Christianity fail, she couldn't have done you a bigger favor.
@@sam-zn7re It's quite telling that your only retort to my comment is "are you going to cry?". You can try a bit harder than that, surely
@@whomever21 she said atheism is civilizationaly weak which is demonstrably true. She's not the only former atheist arriving at that conclusion. Lower birth rates, comunities that last half as long and even less likely among elite athletes who are disproportionately more religious. Through empirical evidence in one's own life you can see that faith increases the competitiveness of a person. And that's exactly what she said. To this day no atheist civilization has lasted more than 100 years and full on atheist societies tend to be tyranical like China or North Korea. While the Christian monarchies of Europe (even if only nominally Christian these days) and the USA are where freedom really is. While china is trying to build a digital tech god that judges everybody from the digital cloud and gives you a social credit score. That's what Ayaan noticed.