Why There’s No Going Back To The US Constitution -
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- In this episode of Theology Applied, Auron MacIntyre (@BlazeTV) joins the show to discuss why a “return to the Constitution” is impossible.
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"Our ship has been overtaken by pirates- let's consult the owner's manual!"
4:00 COVID ended when Putin invaded Ukraine, almost to the day. Scripts flipped almost overnight.
Actually it began to happen once Biden was installed.
Covid became 'not the end of the world' once Trump was out of office ✅️
EXACTLY!! The moment the media had to focus on something else, the spell was broken
One of the funny things was that the jab, the most important thing in the world, was also just dropped, just like that. No, you don't have to take it anymore, and we are not going to offer it unless you really, really want it. Are you up to date on your boosters? No, it doesn't matter any more. One day it's the most important thing in the world and if you don't have it you could get fired, you could not go on a flight etc., the next; not important. That was one of the most surreal things for me. Glad I never took it.
My wife and I didn't either but from what we've seen they're trying to push it again although not quite as intensely@@torkilvold3855
Have followed Auron since he first surfaced 4 years ago in the Reactionary sphere. He’s the best succinctly articulator of our positions that there is
"surfaced"? Sounds like a fugitive...
@@virtualpilgrim8645 I do not doubt that avocation will appear on a future resume.
Auron is making the rounds. Looking forward to this convo, and the book tomorrow.
I would love to hear him speak at American Renaissance
3:31 "We're not a nation of laws and we never have been; we're a nation of political will and we always will be." -Steve Deace
I’d be very careful about suggesting the Governors of these states like TX where I live have our best interest in mind at all. The border fiasco was simply something to make us feel like someone is doing something so we can relax and think it’s being handled.
With FL you had to understand that the Rep. party needed someone new and the FL was the chosen one so to speak. And we can see what happened there…
I don't follow your comment
I know the TX government doesn't really care because they constantly shoot down abolishing abortion and uphold mutilating children via "sex change" surgeries.
@@solideomusical We are realizing that there is a uniparty and many republicans are controlled opposition. Abbott can't secure a border but some idiot liberals at UT talk about jews and the Texas Rangers get the call? Means every drag queen storytime could have been shut down and in reality our so called solid leaders are likely compromised.
@blacksheepbear6382 as far as I follow your comment, I agree. But I didn’t hear any suggestion that these governors “have our best interest in mind”. They were discussing whether the governors would have the necessary political will to stand up to the fed, not whether they have pure motives.
Yes, FL is going great!
Power of those in control is not easily given up. Most would think where do we go from here? There is security even in a broken system for most.
Joel, of all the podcasts you have done this one really resonated with me. I am now listening to it for the third time. Very good stuff- thank you!
EDIT: fourth time now
EDIT: fifth time now 😮
Based guest
You guys really make excellent videos. Makes these more Christian "right wing" nationalist views much more palatable coming from well dressed articulate genuine Christians.
It doesn't make them any less psychopathic tho.
@Sethcast Snobbish much ?
"What we have now (i.e., the American public at large) is a bunch of degenerates" has got to be among my favorite come-on's ever! Right after a pitch for beach front property he'd like to sell me at a nearby leper colony. WAY TO MARKET, HOLMES!
I dont care at all about the color but same culture and religion! Thats right. But it has to be the same culture
Yeah, but isn't that essentially what "ethnicity" means? Culture, religion, language, and then race is less emphasised due to all the other important stuff?
This is so naive
“I don’t care about the ingredients of the cake! I only care about the flavor, consistency, smell, and decoration of the cake!”
You Americans don't have a culture.
@@MeanBeanComedy Yep
And can any of us honestly say diversity has been worth it? It seems to just be a tool of the elite to get the races fighting, rip off the band-aid whenever you want and everyone just deal with the fall out.
No thanks
Stick with your own
Great discussion gentlemen!
The experiment of this particular union has been long gone. It's is time to move on.
Died in the 1860s.
Agreed. More and more people are coming to this realization everyday. The more that do, the more likely we can get in done peacefully.
This nation of peoples is worse off than before 1776 now.
Only way for people's rights and sovereignty to be reestablished is a break from the federal/ centralized govt that is in current control now. It is called secession.
So wrong... as long as we have the document in force, we have the opportunity to improve how well we use the Constitution!
Having just argued that peoples' needs change over time and that nations have different forms of governance suited to them, Mr. MacIntyre then says the question of secession has been permanently settled in the U.S. Since 1865 we've undergone tremendous changes in taxation, the implementation of soc sec, all sorts of social and tech changes. As well as incorporated many new states and territories,. Why on Earth should secession be the question that is considered forever settled? The U.S. can only expand, and never contract -- or some strange assumption like that? No, secession may be just what is called for.
Joel has been reading his elite theory
God can do as He pleases and brings Him glory. In that frame set, can He do it, yes and what will many do if He chooses not to?
America has been and will continue to be under divine judgement, it started in 1962, with the sexual revolution and abortion being put into law with RoevWade, and has gained speed even today. America is not named in Scripture directly therefore I raise the question will it stand until Christ returns? Americans can be saved while America as a nation can’t. We keep looking for a leader or government to save us from our own madness that we embraced as we embraced salvation while still living out our sins because we prayed a prayer thinking that gets us to Heaven. 😢
Christ alone can save and regenerate our hearts and lives.
In 1800, the House of Representatives had one member for every 25,000 citizens or so. Today, we have one member per 750,000 citizens. And as the population increases, that ratio gets worse.
If we had the same ratio as we did in 1800, there would be 10,000 members of Congress - which would make it completely unworkable
We have a nation that has the outer trappings of democracy but nothing else
But really, if it was only property owning white men over 21 years of age at the beginning, the ratio becomes improved.
@@anthonyfava9367 members of Congress still represented everyone in spite of the fact that only white male property owners could actually elect them
Where's the bit that talks about the Constitution? I heard Joel mention in the Pearl podcast that he thinks all US Constitution needs is a better preamble.
19:16
Honoring your fathers means your ancestors. The European race.
Hey, James Lindsay gave this episode a shoutout on Twitter. He called you "The political equivalent of weebs," whatever that means. I get the feeling he thinks you're calling for the dissolution of the constitution, rather than merely saying that we can't go back to the way things were.
Lindsay is clueless. They are not saying the constitution should be dissolved. They it already has been to a large extent. It’s a descriptive analysis.
It is interesting that Auron calls out the rights idolization of the Constitution and tries to return to that, and he works at The Blaze.
That’s just not true. He’s not rigid about that at all because he’s not an ideologue. He doesn’t think it’s likely that a return is realistic for the reasons he stated here.
If a person is truly born again, saved by the grace of Jesus Christ, Christian nationalism is not needed. A true saved/born again Christian follows Jesus Christ , does His will. Not his own. Therefor Jesus Christ is King and Lord of each redeemed person. He is their "government". Christian nationalism is evil. Why some will ask. Because to force God's law on anybody and everybody by way of legislation or a man made government system, takes away the choice of every person to either choose Jesus Christ as their God/Savior, freely or to not choose Him at all, freely. Lastly, it will be Christian nationalists nations that will hand their country's over to the beast just like non Christian countries. They will do so because of deception. Most have no clue what or who the 1st beast and 2nd beast are, much less who the son of perdition is. The reformers told us who the 1st beast is and who the son of perdition is. But deception has caused a majority of Christians today to not know that. It has also caused most Christians to align themselves with the beasts and the son of perdition unknowingly. Just as Judas was among the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ the evil one that is the son of perdition, controls the 1st beast, he will come out from amongst us Christians/Church.
I pray your Witness here isn't pearls before swine.
UH HUH
Most reformers felt the AC was the Catholic Church/Pope
Also we force many of those laws on people anyways...or are we allowed to murder because we wouldn't dare want to force God's laws on people lest they not chose Him?
@@Spookybaconconsidering it’s useless drivel I wouldn’t be too concerned about that. Anyone who tells you laws that align with biblical moral standards are evil are very deceived. No one thinks that just laws by themselves convert people. But if we love our neighbor we do want just societies built on biblical truth. This was the view that Christian’s held to for millennia and it’s why we had many sensible laws that are now being abolished in western countries. I guess they were all just evil… Also the person has obviously no clue about what he is attacking.
Marriage is only between a man and a woman? Oh that’s biblical. But a law stating that is forcing people! It literally does. It restricts freedom! Oh the horror! That’s not what Christ wants right? That would be a Christian nationalist law! Just and good laws on earth is not what Christ the king wants right? Even though he has been sitting on the throne and reigning for two millennia. Christian’s who are part of his kingdom (no one disagrees with that btw) shouldn’t affect the world positively in all possible spheres right? God help us! Premillennial Dispensationalism has done so much damage…
Algo.
Caesar never relinquished his power.
And how can you guarantee the next guy won't be a tyrant
Rome prospered.
Can't, but an actual head of state is far superior to having a shadow government of bureaucrats tyrannizing us through endless taxation and regulations. In history there has never been a king or emperor more tyrannical than bureaucratic regimes.
@@MeanBeanComedyRome also fell. are you looking for prosperity alone? People were thinking Jesus was coming to destroy the Romans bc they were so evil 🤔
@@Blytheface it fell…in the west…after how many centuries?
Caesar never got the chance to. He may have after purging the senate of it's corruption. Instead Rome ended up with the very government the assassins feared and tried to prevent.
@JoelWebbon I suggest you read Rollo Tomassi's books starting with The Rational Male before you speak again or reference about that which you do not know. You sounded like a fool with Twitter reference you made. And I don't believe you to be a fool.
Also, I like your content! Keep it up.
Murka is gonna be presby God willing
Black Sabbath album on wall...
It is a brick wall. Doesn't seem like it would be his study does it?
virtualpilgrim8645 I noticed the Black Sabbath Paranoid Album Cover Art on the wall, too. Is this man a Christian? Why would a Christian have Black Sabbath on the wall behind him. Is this considered "edgy"?
A great band.
Squirrel.
Is it his wall or is this some studio he is using?
XTN NTNL
Christian Nationalism: based
Baptist Nationalism: cringe
Be careful about the Constitution because Scripture works the same way.
I don’t follow. Care to explain your point?
@@kaylar3197 a libertarian, Republican, and Democrat can all say that they just look at the text and apply the text of the constitution. Worldview interprets text
@@stevenschwartz765and who interprets it? A particular people. In out case degenerates. It’s why the republic is a joke now and the constitution isn’t very relevant.
The Blaze is a Con Inc clown factory.
You people are unfortunately useless. The eternal detractor. Let me guess, they didn’t talk about J so you are having a meltdown?
Treason
Yes. But not committed by us. I love the constitution. Wish we lived in a republic that followed it.
Learn the difference between prescriptive assertions and descriptive analysis.
He's not the one who sunk the ship, so don't get mad at him for looking for lifeboats to evacuate people.
Not treason at all.
I agree. Also how is this discussion of “Biblical American morality” done with a guy having Black Sabbath album on the wall in his background. Clearly purposefully done bc there’s not much there.
“The Senate will decide your fate”
"Telescopic Philanthropy" was critiqued by Dickens in his fiction - it is a useful rubric for interpreting the status and clout chasing pseudo-morality of the current age.
Catholic ideas of subsidiarity are an at least partial antidote.
Good stuff however Culture is a reflection of the people. Different people = different culture.
Awesome sobering and needed daily, praise Jesus Christ ! Bless your work
Great conversation
I'm so grateful to have discovered this channel, Stephen Wolfe and Doug Wilson all in the last few months. I had no idea the Christian Nationalist discussion was going on. It's so great to see educated, intellectual people making the case for it. And, I noticed that they all seem to be real men, like in the old days. Just regular men. They speak like adults and expect their audience to be intelligent enough to understand what they're saying. I like the boldness too. We need this so badly in America.
Welcome brother! Dive on in, the water's fine!
Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God.The preservation of our government depends on the faithful discharge of this duty,if the citizens neglect thier duty and place unprincipled men in office,the government will be corrupted,Laws will be made not for the public good,for selfish means,the revenues will be squandered,the rights of the citizens will be violated and diregarded. Noah webster Vote wisely.
And when we don’t have the option of electing a God fearing man, I’d say we have been handed over for judgement
Thanks for proving why men of the cloth shouldn't be anywhere near a seat of power.
Couldn’t disagree more. Your position is also openly anti Christian.
@@raskolnikov6443 By your logic, every single one of my fellow citizens is openly anti-Christian as well, despite my country(Greece) being one of the most religious countries in Europe(over 90% practicing Greek Orthodox).
For all its faults, my denomination has one redeeming quality, it knows what "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" means.
@@azazel166lmao. You aren't even American so you have no place saying who needs to practice politics in our country. Your country isn't the Godless hellhole that the USA is.
This is gonna trigger Jimmy Linds!!!!
Always good to get more Auron MacIntyre. Hope you have him on again in the future.
Just start flying the white, blue and red Christian flag or the Kingdom of Jerusalem flag
Both are great
The accountability and justice that's going to occur in 6 months will be biblical and our Republic will be restored. NCSWIC
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Well we are not a total anarchy yet
There will be no baptists in heaven. The smell of the incense will be repugnant to them. The saints they spent their whole lives disrespecting will not let them sit at the table. The eucharist, which they spent their whole life calling idolatrous, is literally the only thing to do there. Mary, Mother of God, Queen of Heaven, has not heard any of their prayers and will not intercede for them. If even one baptist saw St. Peter at the gates, they would request hell of their own volition.
lol I hope God will forgive you this nonsense
@@raskolnikov6443 Of course he will
Auron should just give up he is so jaded.
Are you a Shepherd? If so why are you not entering through the door of the sheep of Jesus?
At least theae guys are open about their fascist ideas.
Oh no! You called us fascist! Now people will need your warning and never listen reason again.........
Agreed. Open, clear, and well funded...except for the guy broadcasting from his 12 year old boy cave.
Nothing projects failure to launch class like three 80s heavy metal album cover printouts stuffed into 99 cent store plastic frames and double-stick taped to two poorly aligned faux brick panels.
Classy 🥸
@@henrylopez7721 "heed" not "need". "Now people will heed your warning..."
No charge for the repair. 😇
@@Spookybacon_ASI Boy you have a lot of strong feelings about ephemera.
We understand your use of fascist to mean, alternatively as he situation requires, "normal, beautiful, healthy" and "effective opposition," and therefore in this case we thoroughly agree with you.