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This isn't the movie Andy saw. This was the reboot movie Andy goes to with his son to recapture his childhood. The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon was what he watched as a kiddo.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I liked this movie unlike saber I thought it was a great twist on the series. But the way it was marketed and the ways they kept saying "this is the movie Andy saw that made him like buzz" that was stupid, it's delusional, it's like they had never even been a child in the 90s. This isn't the kind of thing that sells toys.
Pixar hates the Star Command cartoon they didn’t make. So to them it’s not canonically what Andy saw. Although maybe it’s for Disney in general still? But it was great.
there's no way Andy would of liked this character or this movie, plus think they forget the fact this movie wouldn't look like this in 1995, if movie came out before that, oh boy
My biggest problem with this movie is the fact that it’s SOOO human centric. Where are the aliens, where is Star Command, where is this Galactic Alliance? It’s crazy because they had an amazing template with Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
Star Command came out in 2000. My guess is that the people who wrote for this movie were barely old enough to remember it, if at all. And even if THEY could, the people in charge of financing and marketing the movie probably assumed that a 20 year old cartoon wouldn't be an easy sell to Generation Alpha kids who were born a decade after it.
Yeah, Star Command took place in an interesting universe that was a lot like Star Trek. Here, there is Star Command, somehow, but it is all just boring humans. It was a letdown.
If they had kept Zurg as Buzz’s father it would have been much better, IMO. Like, Buzz goes missing and his dad goes into space looking for him, gets sent millennia into the future (or not), and gets corrupted by the evil robots.
The whole zurg being father thing would have been to predictable since it was already revealed in toy story 2.Predictable = Boring(Not all the time but for this movie it would have been)
@@captaincrystal3705 Perhaps, but at least then it wouldn't have completely contravened the previous lore - tongue-in-cheek _Star Wars_ reference or not.
The fact that if this "movie" was what inspired the toy that Andy wanted...there is no fucking way That Andy would pick the fucking space man over the robot cat.
If this was the movie that Andy seen back in the 1995 then they should have gone all 90's theme, have Buzz be all about justice, have Zurg be a fun villain, like he knows what he is doing is considered evil but doesn't care because he likes being bad
I would also like to add that if this actually was the movie Andy watched, Sox would have been marketed to hell just for being an adorable cat! In the Toy Story universe, there is no such orange based cat that we have seen, and it would have been farfetched to assume we would never see at least one piece of sox merchandise at all considering that so many people either keep or sell their old plushies. If they would have integrated Sox into Toy Story 4 or maybe one of the shorts to foreshadow this movie's release, I'd have no problem with it. It would just be so unrealistic to not have such a cute animal sidekick not be constantly marketed like how Stitch was
It would make sense if Lightyear is a reboot of Buzz Lightyear movie that Andy seen in the 90's. Also I hate that official where Andy is watching the movie with his toys in the theater while hogging two seats.
Honestly yeah I agree, that should be true! Considering that this is the movie that Andy enjoyed as a kid back then, it could totally have went for that theme
after seeing this movie, Its very hard to imagine that a 90's kid like Andy would be remotely interested in owning a buzz lightyear action figure after seeing this.
This was supposed to be a 90’s movie that made Andy want to get a Buzz Lightyear action figure. Out of all movies, this should’ve been the most lighthearted, action-oriented, “it-happened-because-it-looked-cool” movies. It really felt like they should’ve saved this plot for a different occasion.
I also feel like since they were going for like an “out of body experience” putting the viewer in the 90s, there shouldn’t have been a homosexual character. I mean I wasn’t alive in the 90s but I feel like I’m accurate in saying that wasn’t very common in film.
Hearing the summary of the plot is just, "...And you're saying this is a _Buzz Lightyear_ movie?" It feels like those remakes of 80's cartoons that try way to hard to fit campy characters into gritty stories. ...It kinda is, isn't it.
Honestly, the toy Buzz had more dimension to his character than the actual Buzz from the movie. Which just proves Andy was much more better at " personifying" his toys with his play time imagination.
I don't know why Disney is so reclusive with true "villain" villains. It's ok to have a bad guy who's carried by his personality, rather than deep motivations
It’s the follow-the-leader mentality. Once GOOD complex villains with deep motivations were being made, everyone wanted to cash in on the “gray villain with a motivation” train, while forgetting what made the originals so popular in the first place. If only they hired fucking good writers
Definitely. While the misunderstood trope can work, it honestly feels cheap nowadays that "no one is evil, for the sake of being evil". Which is such a missed opportunity, cuz the Zurg of the cartoon show literally didn't care about anyone, and was just the typical, corny, but intimidating Saturday morning cartoon villain. What they did in this iteration is a bit of a mess being honest. Time travel, and also adding the "found ancient tech by accident lmao" takes you off a bit
@@emblemblade9245 Unfortunately, media makers in general are more worried about doing what's safe and profitable rather than what's genuinely good. Having a good motivation makes a character sympathetic, but having an ostentatious personality makes them likeable. Somewhere, someone mixed the two up, so now we get a bunch of plain oatmeal villains that have sad backstories but zero charisma. Because they think that's what people want, and has the lowest risk.
Zurg looked really cool in this movie, he was pretty intimidating, but it would've been so much better if they just let him be evil for the sake of it. Them having the stupid twist and trying too hard to make him more empathetic completely killed any intrigue I had for him. A movie is only as good as it's villain.
But they didn't make him empathetic, all he wanted to do was to matter again, je was absolutely selfish and he didn't care about anyone, that's not empathetic
I find it funny and weird how the design of Buzz Lightyear in Lightyear was based more so off the toy in Toy Story, rather than trying to make it seem like the toy was based off the character. Like, they've integrated buttons and things into the suit that were supposed to be for the laser and voice lines on the original toy. I feel like those buttons shouldn't have even been on the original character. it would've made more sense that they were added just for the toy.
See this is a big piece of evidence beyond all else that this is NOT the movie that inspired Andy to get the actionf igure. Live-action movies are NOT made with selling merch in mind, not original IP's anyway, because you don't know how well or not well it will perform. So to design sacesuits to look like toys, that you have no confirmation that people will WANT to buy in the first place, it doesnt' work. Star Wars can do it for LATER films, but the first Star Wars definitely didn't do this, in fact that franchise is what made buying merch based off that kind of film a thing to begin with.
I really think they should've went into the overly-corny side of Buzz, since he was really meant to be based on stereotypical space cartoons and such. Same way Woody was a stereotypical cowboy toy. Being ironically cheesy and overly-corny would've worked really well (and also on the marketing side they could've also appealed to the nostalgia of older audiences as well. Let's be honest) It would've been fun if it was a more comedic parody of old space cartoons, instead of trying to be a more modern space story.
I remember some years back after Incredibles 2, Pixar saying they didn't want to make sequels to their previous projects anymore and focus on newer properties. Kinda curious what the sentiment is on this one internally.
After watching Lightyear, I can say it's not bad but no way in hell was it a fun movie for kids. Sox carried all the lightheartedness of the movie. Kids are also more visually impressed and the movie was mostly people talking.
Yeah, I just watched it last night and I really don’t get the hate. Yes, there were slow moments but over all pretty action packed. Didn’t even notice the same couple scene that so many bich about. And your right, Sox carried all the lightheartedness and was my absolute favorite. I was also happy to see a cat being the main companion.
@@mariem8705 You mean the same couple SCENES, that were foreshadowed by "I got Engaged" "Who is her?". It was almost 10 minutes of the movie. No way you missed that
It was very boring and it doesn’t seem like a movie that Andy would love so much in his childhood. In theaters, kids werent quite paying attention to the movie. They talked during the whole movie and only once exclaimed “she’s dead!” At Hawthorne’s death. But Sox was adorable and my favorite part of the movie, which says a lot.
The animation alone makes me really want to like the movie because it's just so good, but I think you made a lot of really good points, and I definitely agree that it should have been more of what you said, with buzz exploring planets and zurg being the big bad guy, and having it be generally more like a cheesy but fun action movie.
I think thats set up pretty well since theyre space rangers now, they explore planets and stuff and since zurg is still alive what you said could be very possible and would be a fun great guardians of the galaxy type movie
"let us have an unapologetically evil villain again" YES! THANK YOU! I'm ok with complex villains but it's just happened SO much in media lately I just want to see them change it up a bit. I keep hearing them say "This is the movie Andy saw" what, as an adult? It feels like a reboot of the buzz he grew up with. If anything I thought he watched a buzz show or something not a movie. And I'm just tired of people arguing about the kiss in general.
Disney is obsessed with twist villains to the point where its boring and predictable. A normal fucking villain would be a more surprising twist at this point. The kiss discourse is bullshit. Its a short peck, if that has you feeling anything you need to shut the fuck up
@@rachaelgreen1812 Having Adult Andy making a video ranting about how the new film ruined his childhood in the cinema parking lot would be pretty entertaining, if only for the meta purposes.
The other problem I had was the movie doesn’t feel like a movie from the 90s. And from a character designer perspective, Buzz’s suit looks so out of place with this realistic and gritty take. I would have taken inspiration from The Fifth Element, The Jetsons, Guardians of the Galaxy, even the Ratchet and Clank game had fun sci fi environments.
The other problem for me personally is it almost felt like they were trying to take the focus away from Buzz by introducing us to this best friend character that even my niece who adores original Buzzlightyear forgets the name of. And the character of Buzz himself failed to capture the spirit of an adventurous space ranger.
I thought the message was that you should live is the present and not be blinded chasing the past. Buzz spends most of the first act oblivious to the lives the crew are having on the planet or getting blindsided by developments that happen while he's gone. The second act has him has him confronted with undeniable evidence that his partner lived a good life while he'd been on all those test flights. The climax comes when Buzz is confronted by Zurg who is literally the end result of him relentlessly trying to get back to the glory days of being a space ranger and who wants to undo the lives everybody else had lived on the planet. Finally, the conflict is resolved when Buzz sacrifices the hyper speed crystal (the culmination of his efforts to return to being a space ranger) to incapacitate Zurg.
It was really weird. My friend and I kept cringing and laughing at parts we weren't supposed to laugh at. Specifically, the "new space rangers" fucking everything up. Thank God for Sox. 😅
the moral was about learning to appreciate things as they are instead of being stuck in the frame of what could have been or what could be. Buzz is a socially isolated person who’s only known friend dies. E doesn’t learn the value of the present until e bonds with a team and learns to love and appreciate them, until then, all Buzz had was a job. For a lot of people who struggle with self-value and obsessing over being important (or seeming more important in the eyes of the public) it was a very good theme. One that reminds me of Soul’s theme about learning to enjoy living not just chasing a goal.
and that moral doesn't even work for the movie because every person in the movie kept willingly not listening to each other and then acting surprised when shit doesn't work right. buzz had 15 chances(I did the math after I saw the movie, 60-70 years pass and its 4 years each time) to stop and he didn't stop to look around and see his best friend slowly dying, which just makes him feel like an idiot you don't care about rather then being a determined person who wants to fix things edit: i had a few moore thoughts him not even noticing his friend starting to age or even talking to her outside of just a small meetup before going to bed to do the same shit again makes him seem like an apathetic asshole who didn't actually care about her enough to spend time with her, which goes against what the movie tries to tell you after her death that he was her best friend i also hate her character because she's literally just a bury your gays trope with her not getting much screen time and ends up dying with her probably straight granddaughter stealing the spotlight instead
They wasted so much time and money making the graphics look good they forgot to make an actual story, kinda like how rushed Incredibles 2 story is and how weak the villain is.
The Buzz Lightyear television series actually fit more into the spirit of the franchise. Apparently, John Lasstner wanted to make the show more serious, like Space Ghost, but since Disney went with the more comedic approach for the final product, he grew to resent the series and forbid it from being used in the main canon. Now that this movie came out, people are starting to talk about the series more.
From what little i've seen of it, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command much better encapsulates what Buzz Lightyear is than the movie. It is kinda weird that patrick warburton voices Buzz though.
Wow, I didn't know that about Lasstner. What a supreme jerk. Imagine making something so beloved by hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of kids and then resenting it because you weren't allowed to make it *as* serious and dark as you wanted. I mean, I watched that show as a kid and yes, it was comedic but it had serious moments, it wasn't like, y'know, Teen Titans Go or something. It wasn't brainless entertainment for children, it had heart.
The thing that drove me away from Lightyear is buzz design....God I hate how it looks cartoony in a serious environment...it doesn't look right. But in star command he looked right at home. A cartoony character with more cartoony characters it makes sence.
@Pointless Videos A guy named Ev@n made Have we? I don't think we NEEDED one, you know? What movie could've lived up to why Andy thinks Buzz is so awesome?
The only thing that offended me about this movie is that someone really thought that I (and the majority of the world, for that matter) would be dumb enough to believe that a 6 or so year old 90's child would pick it over the original 2000's show. But really, this coud have been a great movie if it had been an original story with nothing to do with TS.
I honestly agree with the common consensus that the movie feels more like a reboot of the property that Andy would see with his kids. That at least makes more sense (as much as a diss that it kind of is)
@@SiRenfield I head canon this as the "Live-Action Reboot" of the Buzz Lightyear show in the Toy Story universe. You know how Hollywood had that habit where they take a show from the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s, etc. , and making a Live-Action movie to drag in old fans. cause that what this Feels like. Andy (I believe) would be on the Internet b*tching about everything they got wrong, just like *_Transformers_* fans did when the Michael Bay *_Transformers_* movies came out.
My father said after watching a trailer "this movie looks too serious for kid Andy to want to see it and buy a toy from the movie. The vibe doesn't radiate kid energy at all"
I agree. This could of been a totally different thing if they didn't try to tie it directly to buzz lightyear, and the movie Andy supposedly saw. Let's not forget Andy grew up in the 90's-early 2000's.
But don’t forget a TON of adult movies sold toys kids loved and lost their minds over. Robocop, the Aliens movies, Terminator, the Jurassic Park/World movies, etc. And, even if the movies were for adults, it doesn’t stop kids from watching them. I was watching the newest Jurassic World in theaters and a mom sat next to me with four kids all between the ages of five and nine by estimate. They watched the whole movie too, not once needing to be removed from the theaters for crying or screaming (unlike my brother who had to be taken out of the theatre when he and my mom were watching Bambi. BAMBI.)
Every time I hear about "subverting expectations", I just marvel at how it became a trope in itself... A trope that ate its own tail. People started expecting the unexpected... And eventually "subverting the expectations" became a code word "lazy or plain bad writing". You expected something good? Consider your expectation subverted!
its an idea thats been done too much. subverting expectations when done well is giving someone something that they did not go in wanting but ending up liking. that's hard to do correctly so most writers should just make something good and leave it too the really good writers to subvert expectations. now that a lot more poeple are attempting it more writers who are just good at best and more typically bad are attempting it and failing due to lack of talent.
I’m surprised they didn’t just stick with Zurg being Buzz Lightyears father. Being that Zurg is a parody of Darth Vader they totally should’ve stuck with that and played into it rather than doing another Buzz.
@@FoxtrotMouse It’s a valid concern. Zurg and Buzz in that Toy Story 2 scene are taking everything seriously. Buzz believes he’s a real space ranger, and Zurg pursues him with all the intent of a real evil emperor. When he drops “I am your father,” it is a reference to Star Wars, and it gets a laugh… but the characters aren’t joking. That is who they are. So when they advertised “the REAL story of Buzz! “The same movie that Andy watched!” I expected them use all those hokey tropey references that were established as canon. And they completely changed it.
i think if Zurg had just been a simple, classic space emperor villain like Ming the Merciless it would have been better. He could have just detected Buzz's repeated tests and pursued the hyper crystal so he could achieve faster than light travel and faciliated further conquest of the galaxy. It gives the plot stakes and Buzz is still partially responisible for bringing the villain to the planet.
Or it could’ve been a story where Buzz first tries the hyperdrive but ends up in a different system discovering Zurg (This Zurg is Zurg no old Buzz Lightyear crap). Buzz flees back to the Mothership warning that they have leave now right before Zurg’s fleet kills them all, the Mothership flees but Buzz decides to stay back and make sure Zurg follows him instead of the mothership, which then leads to the rest of the film being about Buzz traveling the galaxy outmaneuvering Zurg in the hopes of finally making it back home.
In regards to Lightyear doing badly compared to Encanto and Turning Red and the whole "movie theaters vs streaming" aspect, I think it's important to remember that Encanto and Turning Red were new original storylines. Lightyear is not, since it was trying to ride the coattails of the Toy Story franchise.
I honestly think that's what fails it, too. It doesn't fit the tone of either the Toy Story series or the Buzz Lightyear cartoon, yet the tone the lighting and color palette seem to be going for feels strange with the unrealistic character designs. It all looks a bit off. It's not making me feel nostalgic, but also not making me feel excited or interested to discover the new.
Making this super cheesy would of been a nostalgic trip and introduce kids to a new medium of animation. This is SUPPOSED to be in 1995. MAKE. IT. CHEESY. and also have it really embark Buzz’s personality
I really really really really REALLY miss the unapologetically evil villains, too! I have enjoyed some of the newer villains, but nothing will ever compare to the REAL villains from past movies. They're so charismatic and, most importantly (for some of them), FUN!!! The last fun villain I can remember was Dr. Facilier from Princess and the Frog, and he was amazing! I MISS the crazy, over-the-top villains! Why can't the bad guy just be evil, why do we need a twist-villain every damn movie now??
Welllllll. But Dr. Facilier, while CLEARLY a semi-return to black and white villainy, was himself a trojan horse grey villain in that he was working not WITH the Loa but in SPITE of them in order to attempt to settle a debt of blood and souls with them. What make's him truer to classic villainy is his unbridled arrogance toward both Rich people AND personally Motivated people like Tiana. And so he is a classic villain because the entire time, he never tries to get his opponent's to sympathize with him. He is always Clear with Tiana and her group that he is their enemy. He even kills their firefly friend. Villains NOWADAYS are these pushy crybaby losers that under regular circumstances and even common sense should stand no CHANCE against the classic Hero. But What do we have instead? Falcon acting UNCHARACTERISTICALLY dense and unconvincingly forgiving toward the Flag Smashers at EVERY opportunity in his miserable show! When the reason Your Villain wins is because your Hero sucks artificially, it's not because the villain is capable...But what do I know? xD
I watched a few of the newer Disney animated movies and I miss good ol villains too. Why does the enemy have to be something like something like the concept of greed?
@@connorbeith3232 yeah, Tamatoa was great, and he wasn’t even the main villain.. that’s just sad. We know they still can make these fun villains, but for some reason they just choose not to
The "this doesnt feel like buzz lightyear" is exactly what ive been feeling seeing trailers. I was like this feels like any other space action movies that have come out with buzz spashed on it. :/ it feels...like it doesnt have the soul it should.
It's almost the same as making a movie about a mermaid and not changing her name from Ariel to something else in spite of refusing to cast a ginger actress. Although The Littler Mermaid live-action should still be better than Lightyear.
Gotta love how they have lore of the Buzz Lightyear in the actual Toy Story and do barely anything with it. Like why is the cat here and not in any Toy Story movies? That thing would sell like hot cakes if it existed back in the 90s or any time during any of the Toy Stories. Zurg and Buzz are the only ones in the Toy Story universe who apparently become toys. (I mean it's they're are full aisles of 1 Toy.)
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Watching this review makes me want to go revisit the old animated movie "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command". You know, the one that had a focus on battling the Evil Emperor Zerg, as opposed to mechanic's struggles. And it showed that even the "kids stuff" could still be cool.
I was so convinced that new commander was gonna end up becoming Zurg. He already had an army of evil looking soldiers, and then he's an asshole and goes on about a "laser shield". I thought Buzz would finally go warp speed, and return so many years later that the colony had turned into Zurg's evil robot society. Then it happened, Buzz warped, he came back and that Laser Shield! So red and ominous over the colony. Looked evil. But they're being attacked? Ugh. I expected Buzz to shoot some big weapon at Zurg only for it to hit and do no damage, then he says "What don't you get about laser shield?". I'm rambling, but man. I just did not expect Zurg to be so lame.
I think your idea is not that bad. If one of the themes of the movie is about the exploration spirt of humanity. A good way the movie could have worked it. Is that with each jump Buzz makes the original astronauts that want to go back get older. The new generation loses hope of scaping the planet and get used to just being trapped. The new commander also scales in rank with each time skip getting more tyrannical and obsessed with control and keeping the colony safe. With the last jump the old generation dies and the new commander finally gets total control becoming Zorg. Buzz could be the hero that keeps trying to improve things even with constant defeats and the sacrifice of seeing his friends get older and die.
As cool as that might have been, I disagree that the Zurg plot was lame. Blew my fuckin’ mind that the twist wasn’t what I was expecting. I thought I saw what was coming, then was like “whoa!” Half of these damn reviews have me questioning “did we even watch the same movie?!”
He should have been Zurg. He basically held the people hostage there out of safety and being sheltered is what we need to STOP being. This only enables that. It's really the worst message for kids. Yeah, being in a bubble your whole life is so good for you. Please.
I loved the part where he said "It's buzzin' time!" and then he stood up straight and fell over like frozen stiff and started vibrating around on the floor.
Lightyear truly has to be one of the films released in 2022 so far. Chris Evans did a job playing Buzz Lightyear and the action was in the film. The film has storytelling and the CGI was animated. The side characters were along with Buzz Lightyear and the villain was a bad guy. The jokes were sentences. This film really is one of the films of all time, if not the last decade.
If wasn't for a robotic cat is very out of place thought, this would have easily been one of the worst movies i have ever seen, and i have seen a lot of bad and 'bad" movies
I feel that the marketing hurt the movie's interest especially for a PIXAR movie. Turning Red in streaming performed better than Lightyear in theaters. Maybe it had an identity crisis or something where it was trying to decide whether it wanted to appease to folks who grew up with Buzz since Toy Story 1 or those completely new to the lore.
Did you know there are countless examples of how studios should never, EVER do this? Charlie's Angels (2019), Terminator Dark Fate, also 2019. Technically even Frozen II, also 2019 but that somehow broughtt a new audience to the franchise and attacked the people who love the original. And doesn't seem to understand WHY Frozen is so popular. The first one did everything it could to bring the two sisters together. The second movie did everything it could to TEAR THEM APART, and the worst part is, it did exactly that. Ane Elsa's "Do you want to build a snowman?" i like scratching Anna's face with sharp fingernails till it bleeds. Every time Anna asked that question, it meant, "Do you want to spend time with me?" When Elsa asks it, in this trashfest, it means, "Hey Anna, do you want to separte and only see me on SPECIAL OCCASIONS? Forget having a door between us, how about A HUGE EXPANSE OF AREA HAHAHAHAGHAHHAHAHH" People think Lightyear ruined something, but as bad as it is, it's nowhere near as bad as what was done to Elsa and Anna.
So like a Sonic Team-developed Sonic game? Specifically Sonic Forces? Sonic Forces is a pretty egregious example of chasing too many different types of Sonic fans (Classic fans, Adventure fans, fans of the Archie Sonic comics, fans of light-hearted Sonic stories, people who want darker stories from Sonic, etc etc) and ending up with almost none of them…
If you want to know how badly Pixar dropped the ball on this one, all I can say is this: The Toy Story films established literally THREE plot elements for the media Buzz was from. 1.) Buzz was a space ranger, specifically sworn to protect the galaxy from the evil emperor Zerg. 2.) Given how Buzz acted when he thought he was the real Buzz, and the commercials we saw for his toys, it can be inferred that the original media was very campy, and very much Saturday-morning-cartoony. 3.) Buzz is Zerg’s son, but Buzz doesn’t know. Pixar fumbled literally all of these. Buzz is a space ranger, sure, but he is not sworn to protect the galaxy, but moreso just the colony of humans he’s assigned to. A far cry from the universe trekking adventures he was implied to always go on. The movie also takes itself as seriously as any other Pixar movie, meaning it takes itself seriously, and then there’s a comedic relief character off to the side, who’s complaining about not getting his coffee of some sh*t, while everyone else is grieving over something. So the tone is just not really fun, and this is only highlighted when Buzz says any of the iconic Buzz lines from Toy Story. When Buzz says “Not today, Zerg!” It just feels out of character for this Buzz, like they remembered last second that he had to say that line at some point. Uh, spoilers, Buzz is not only not Zerg’s son, but Zerg is actually a giant robot piloted by the main villain, and doesn’t share a similar design to any of his depictions in Toy Story 2. The Zerg mech is the size of a small building, and doesn’t have the waste cloak. Toy Story 2, both the in-universe video game from the start, and the actual Zerg toy, portrayed him as being about Buzz’s height. So, in conclusion, just watch the cartoon that came out a few decades back. It’s far better.
One point here. In the original cartoon, Zurg wasn't Buzz's dad. I think at one point Zerg was pinned by Buzz and said: "Buzz, I have something to say, I am your father." Buzz was stunned, but Zurg used that opportunity to throw Buzz over and call him an idiot and that he was lying. Pretty sure the Zurg being Buzz's dad was just a joke for the second movie.
@@ararepotato1420 Zurg is straight up a liar, he has proven he is not trust worthy even in the cartoon, and incredibly goofy. Which does fit the Campiness factor of the media he was supposed to come from. So him playing with his "son" in the second Toy Story film would be in character if he had received a hard enough knock to the head and Buzz found him still convinced he was his father.
The Zerg was buzz’s father thing was just a joke put in the second movie to parody Star Wars. The star command cartoon made that clear with Buzz’s dad being a recurring character in it.
Originally, when I heard this movie was being produced for the first time, I thought this was going to be the movie Andy made after going to college and becoming a big film producer. I say this because when he was younger, we saw how creative and how he played with the toys; it was as if he was making some film, going as far as giving the various toys characteristics and specific roles to play. We never really knew what his goal was when going to college, so with that ambiguity the film producer could've said this is Andy's film.
You should’ve written the damn movie. And then ended it with adult Andy getting endlessly complimented about how good his movie is and then getting asked “What’s next?” and then maybe he could mention an idea he had about being inspired by an old cowboy doll he played with as a kid.
Old Buzz "I figured if we can go forward in time, we can go back in time" Me: "That's not how time dilation works..." Buzz: "You can't go back in time!" Old Buzz: "I'm here right now aren't I?" (You know it's bad when the writers _know_ it makes no sense and don't bother to explain it)
All this movie did is remind people of the existence of the oft-forgotten and far superior Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. It's sad seeing Pixar decline like this.
Does anyone remember that moment in the beginning where buzz was doing complex math problems on his ship's window? I thought that they were going to go more in depth and how buzz is smart and comes up with great strategies, but then it was never brought up again ... they made room for so many cool plot threads but never used them.
It's like they wanted to go as far out of their way as possible to not have anything to do with the animated Buzz show, which is why it feels like just another generic sci-fi movie. Also, I really like the way Saber says "the-a-ter" lol
Honestly I’m on board with rebeltaxis theory about the show potentially being a joint venture with UPN, and that the show concept, and characters belong to them , it’s like how for He-man the original cartoon is considered a separate entity from the Toy line rights wise , why they never just tried to buy the show back is a mystery , or they legit hated the show that much
What I loved about Sox is that normally animal companions in a movie really annoy me. Like, their funny but they are annoying to the main charecter and are just a nuisance. I love how Sox doesn’t cause anything bad, and I love how he is ACTUALLY HELPFUL TO THE MAIN CHARACTER. normally animal companions are just… there to be there. And I thought it would be the same with Sox when Buzz took him out of his box. i feel like I repeated myself a lot here- :/
I feel like the only reason Sox doesn’t work in this movie is because you can’t pin all of the pressure to get a laugh out of audiences and relieve tension on one character, it just doesn’t work. In Mulan for example, Mushu is clearly the main comic relief, but there’s still plenty of humor in the grandma, the 3 soldiers that Mulan is friends with, and even Mulan herself. More recently in Frozen, Olaf is the comic relief but Anna can still be funny, Duke of Weselton is a lighter villain, the trolls, and Kristoff all have funny moments. If you want some funny in your movie, you need more funny, not one funny.
My dad has always considered Buzz Lightyear to be his favorite character in a Disney movie. When the first movie came out, he took my sister and I to see it ( Not that I remember because I was a toddler). The whole plot about buzz having to come to terms with that fact that he was just a toy and not a space ranger resonated with my dad who was coming off the high of earning his masters and getting stuck in a crappy job at the time that he couldnt just leave or risk losing his Visa for the US.
Wow. I feel that. Prayers and well wishes to your family. 🤘🏾🖤✨ I didn't experience that watching the movie (obviously, I was a kid), but it hit hard when I saw it. Knowing that it was visceral, real, disappointing, and that I may hit a wall like that someday. I got all of that out of a movie I saw as a kid, vs. this movie, where I'm an adult who's been through a lot, but the story connection just isn't quite there.
I can't think this being the movie Andy saw as a kid. It really doesn't make sense. It was ok as a movie but bad as a Lightyear origin story. It was too depressing and too human centric. Sox was my favorite but I didn't really care about the other characters.
Yeah in all their attempts at being "passive progressive," they ended up speciesist instead. Would it really have killed them to at least include the Claw Machine aliens?
My problem with Disney lately is that all their movies could be so good on their own, but they've tethered them to already existing properties. It's just like with Cruella. If that movie hadn't been connected to Cruella, if it had been it's own movie, it would have been so much better. It was so close to being perfect, but they had to connect it to something else. Half the time when you were watching you'd forget it was about Cruella. Sever the connection. Make something original
The fact they made that movie makes me so mad. There are so many Disney villains that people argue are actually not in the wrong and the woman who wanted to kill puppies for clothing was not one of them.
Nothing wrong with back story movies, but people who were fans of Cruella said, "that's not Cruella, I don't know who it is, but it's definitely not Cruella." Same with this, people said "we already had a back story with Star command cartoon"
I feel exactly the same way about Solo! a heist movie set in Star Wars? Sounds cool! But no, they had to tether it to the main story somehow And in the process had to shoehorn in Chewbacca and a young Solo whose personality makes no sense. They took the scoundrel out of cinema's most famous scoundrel, it would have been a great movie if they just made a new character.
Exactly. I do really like Lightyear and as much as I think it sucks that its getting a lot of hate, I can't exactly blame people too much. Nothing about what's good with the film is a result of it being a Lightyear film, and most of what people hate about it could almost be wiped away if it was a new IP.
@@hyenaloaf1858 I mean...I think it's fine for a movie to tackle a villain regardless of how horrendous they are. And I mean look at the Joker...he's done despicable things in the comics, torture, murder, rape, manipulation etc. Yet we still got a movie for that character- granted it's not exactly a comic oriented joker from what I'm hearing? But I remember seeing some of cruella and it wasn't allign to the cruella in the og movie.
Pixars weird hatred for the Buzz Lightyear cartoon series really shot them in the foot this time around. The refusal to incorporate ANYTHING from the series into this movie really hurt them. Sox is perfect though I love him.
I haven’t seen that show in like.. sixteen years, so maybe I’m just misremembering, but wasn’t the show actually not bad? I remember watching it a lot when I was a little kid. Granted, my only memory of that show was that there was a character who’s head looked like a Kraft mac & cheese noodle (and I thought that was really funny) but my Mom would sit and watch with me, which she didn’t do with many kids’ TV shows.
Right?! I loved the cartoon I don’t understand why this movie was even made. I didn’t even know Pixar hated the cartoon, it honestly was good. The characters were good, the storylines were good. I don’t get it!
I haven't seen the show but I absolutely adore the Star Command movie. Tim Allen with Patrick Warburton's vocal style is so good, the characters really work well together, the plot is simple and well executed, the twist is great, and Zurg is just so unapologetically evil. Like, if they had more or less remade that movie, it would have hit every single criticism Saber had for the new Lightyear.
@Final Frog it Approaches: Trust me, its not just your memory. I have been watching it recently (along with the pilot movie) and its writing still seems to hold up quite well.😊
When this movie was first announced, all I thought was "Why?". They added some references to Buzz Lightyear but also added so much new stuff. They could have just made an original movie instead of letting the references force the movie to go a certain way. But I guess if you slap on a recognizable name like Buzz Lightyear, they assumed they can just make a bunch of money. And can we blame them for assuming that? They made over a billion $ just by remaking the Lion King and slapping that name onto it.
I love the phrase “passive progressive,” it’s very appropriate. The 19th century was the 1800’s. By the sounds of this review, and considering how it was pitched, is not what people wanted.
Pixar Employee: So Lightyear didn’t do so well… I guess we can’t expect nostalgic characters to carry themselves in a tone or genre completely alien to their original films. Pixar Executive: So how are we going to bounce back from this? Pixar Employee: Hmm… How about a recreation of Woody and the round up gang reimagined as a bloody crime noir? Pixar Executive: Okay, first of all, promoted.
The broken man picked up what was to him a mediocre half empty bottle of [Redacted because this is Pixar], not far enough to reach his lips, but just ever so enough for you to know he was considering finishing the bottle. He begins to turn it side by side like a pendulum for a few moments before putting it down. Then he takes his hat off and places it gently besides the bottle. You glance at him and see the colorless face of a defeated man. The saddest word in the English language is "almost" and though you don't know it yet, this man's life has had it's plenty of "almost." He was almost the leader. He was almost the best. He almost said it. He almost had her love. He almost saved those critters... Those critters... *Heavy sigh* "Somebody's poisoned the waterhole," he suddenly muttered. With a starting dread, a hint of astonishment, and a hopeless finish.
Given recent trends? They would find a way to ruin it. Either they would change the lore because "I'm so smart" or they would make it way to serious for what is supposed to be a 90s western aimed at kids. Likely both, while adding some extra pamdering because "how else are we going to sell this?" But that might just be me being very jaded at the increasingly obvious pandering and soulless remakes/sequels.
It would sure be nice to a Western for kids in mind again instead of all these dark, downbeat, (and preachy) Westerns people like to make these days. We get it. The Old West sucked. You can still use the setting for *FUN* every now and then...
I feel like they dropped the ball with Emperor Zurg. He shouldn’t have been Older Buzz. He should’ve been a conqueror from a different timeline that ran into the other version of Buzz and discovered the power the crystal possessed. Then after using up the crystal to conquer a large portion of the galaxy it ran out of power, and he wanted another to expand his power. Which would give a reasonable explanation to why he went after Buzz. They also could’ve fed into the aliens that were in Star Command. Make some of the Space Rangers refugees and survivors of Zurg’s conquests. Show how evil Zurg is and why it was imperative for Star Command to stop him from conquering the galaxy at all costs. Maybe humanity hasn’t been affected by Zurg up to this point, but another race of aliens had to flee their home system to escape Zurg. Literally ANYTHING to cement Zurg as a threat and expand the world building.
To me, I feel like it shouldn't have been Zerg at all. I liked what they did with old Buzz and showed how good intentions can lead to horrible consequences when one is too focused on the end goal, but him being an over-the-top villain like Zerg just completely clashes with his motivations and the tone of the film. Better yet, they should have just called this film anything else. I really like the characters and story, but the Buzz Lightyear branding literally does more to detract from the experience than add to it. It really feels like someone at Pixar had a cool idea for a character-driven timetravel space adventure but then the higher-ups at Disney looked at the word "space" and then forced Pixar's staff into making it a Buzz Lightyear film.
I'm actually happy this movie didn't perform as well as Disney hoped. Disney has treated most Ips they bought like worthless garbage and now that each one starts to flop, one harder the other they will be forced to treat their Ips better or deal with the repercussions. The soul reason they put Lightyear on the theaters was because it wasn't an original Ip creation of Pixar but a sequel to an already popular franchise. A safe bet whereas all the other ones where "too dangerous for theaters". I am truly glad to see that all the rest new movies are performing way better than Disneys rotten copy paste philosophy that they adopted once they got too much money on their hands. Pixar originals and especially Dreamworks and Sony are now the Pioneers of future animation amongs other non Disney companies.
Disney breathes buying IPs and destroying their soul, turning them into safe profitable mutants. As early as Snow White and Cinderella, all across the "disney renaissance" and well into today as disney bought Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, etc.
@@Sorcerer-SMC you're missing the point. it's not that Disney "won't make good movies ever again", it's just that Disney is now a shit company. Sure, they occasionally make decent movies but they've stopped caring about quality. All they want is to make as much money as possible with all the shit they own now (Marvel studios, star wars....) they're just a big monopoly. They literally don't give a shit anymore, if you want proof just search on youtube.
Well don’t forget Walt Disney Animation Studios, they recently started doing well again with Encanto so hopefully the rest of their upcoming original films will also do good too, so even if The Walt Disney Company has been making a lot of iffy decisions, that doesn’t automatically mean Walt Disney Animation Studios “won’t make anything good ever again”
When i heard about this movie being made, my first thought was his team getting animated in 3D. That would be awesome! ... wait... .... Mira's a red head... Crap, it's not gonna happen.
They still could've made the movie human centric, but they ABSOLUTELY needed more aliens. Not only would aliens wouldve put more variety and stakes in this movie, but it serves more closely to how Buzz actually was as a character outside of "Star Command" cartoon. And I say needed, because it was implied that the character of Buzz Lightyear does in fact face off against alien threats when you observe how Buzz the toy acts when he believes he actually is the real Buzz. Buzz greets everyone saying "I come in peace." And upon being jumped at or spooked instinctually readies his laser. When you see how he reacts and interacts with the little green men in the first Toy Story movie, you see he's uncertain but kind of also used to seeing different types of alien creatures. Because of these actions you observe in the toy, we can use context clues to determine Buzz meets both nice and dangerous aliens on a daily basis. I think it wouldve made sense for the stakes to be Buzz facing off against different kinds of alien threats while saving other species and msking otherwordly allies and his human comrades, then Zurg would serve as the final boss. This movie honestly had the potential to have the same excitement as the "Halo" games, Buzz going from point A to B while conquering his fears and facing off against actual danger.
Since you were saying the zoomer generation hasn't had much of a theater experience, I feel like sharing mine. So, I'm a zoomer (gen z, right?) and i absolutely love going to the theaters. Though watching things on streaming services is more convenient, nothing can top going out to the theaters to watch a new movie with some candy, popcorn, and soda while just sitting in a dark room full of chairs with like an hours worth of advertisements. It's just an enjoyable time. My parents would rather for most movies, watch them on streaming services, but every now and then we do go to the theaters. I really love the theaters. I seriously hope theaters will always stick around and not just go away in the future. It's just the greatest experience going to them.
Preach. The last time I've been to a theater is when the mall used it as a waiting room for vaccines. It sucked, I wanna sink in a red velvet chair and drown in my popcorn with good family friends. Giant screen, dark room, sirround sound, who wouldn't want that.
Tbh what Saber is describing is more of a Gen Alpha problem, kids who were born circa 2010 or later, so not a lot of life experience before the pandemic hit.
My dad is the same way, would rather wait than go to the theater (the man to be fair has a movie theater room in his basement) I rather go to the theater myself especially for a marvel movie opening weekend. Plus for me at least I can avoid spoilers rather. Once it comes out on streaming my dad and I watch it together (I don't mind watching it again lol)
I agree, going to see a movie at the theater is an experience in of itself. It feels like a mini trip or event with the whole set up. It never gets old🧡🍿
Personally, they should have made it more like the old cartoon. Even including the blue skinned, red-haired lady would have made this much more interesting.
This looks like a more mature space movie that could have had anyone else play the role of Buzz Lightyear, and it could have been a live action film with CGI effects, based on what I could gather from the plot as explained in this review.
Y’know what woulda been cool? If this was a twist where it’s Buzz the toy thinking he’s actually the real Buzz and having these memories of being him but going in and out of realities all “Everything, Everywhere, All at once style”
Your insight to what will become of movie theaters is so sad to me. 😭 I was a third-generation movie theater manager. My grandparents ran a drive in, my parents met working in theater management, and I did the same job for 4 years. I do hope theaters stay alive. There’s nothing like a cherry coke straight from the fountain and a hot buttered popcorn 💖 my favorite part of the job was walking into theaters to check everything while a movie was going and hearing collective laughter or gasps.
I really really hope they stay alive too! Nothing compares to watching a good movie on the theatre, the entire experience is just special. Brings us together : )
I do love the feeling of going to the theater but goddamn... Inviting friends over to your home, eating not-overpriced popcorn, and having subtitles _available_ is way better
I have a family that can't get through one movie without watching TikTok and constant conversations. That's part of why I like theaters, they're forbidden from sound and I can actually get through the movie
Theaters aren’t going anywhere. Top Gun is one of the top grossing movies of the year. So Pixar releases a bad movie and everybody thinks theaters are dying cause it’s flopping. Give me a break. 🙄
@@bearerofbadnews1375 Too many twists makes the brain spin and then it stopsbeing so fun. And at some point, the twists feel less like challenging the spectator and more like cheating at the last minute to try to sound clever.
I feel like the whole Zerg thing can get retconned in a sequel if they choose to make one. Think about it; Buzz FOUND that ship centuries in the future. For all we know, Zerg could have had his whole empire thing going on and that ship was the remnants. The potential for the next movie could be big if they focus on using that to make Zerg the original unapologetic version AND bring back the whole idea of space rangers with the new suit now. Who knows, maybe future buzz comes back and has his arc to realize things shouldnt change and he helps fight Zerg off.
One of my nitpicks about the movie is the fact NOBODY knew the lightspeed formula they started with and spent a lifetime making another one only for it to get blown up. Oh and also the paradox reveal where somehow he just found an advanced alien ship just sitting unmanned in space.
I thought the formula was for the fuel mixture, which inexplicably never ran out and, I guess, was forgotten by Sox, even though he spent decades working on getting the right formula. If Sox was able to remember the formula, most of the movie wouldn't happen
Blizzardblast101. I actually saw a comment on RUclips where there was an original zurg somewhere in the universe but abandoned his ship. Maybe there is a real zurg out there
In fairness, the way I interpreted the lightspeed formula was that they only knew how to make with the resources in their home system, not the ones they had access to on the alien planet.
I 100% agree with everything you said in the video, but one thing that really bothered me about the movie was the ending: after the Zurg problem was solved, we discover that Star Command apparently perfected hyperspace travel on their own without Buzz's help, they've reopened the space ranger program with new and better equipment, and they're ready to start again after over forty years, as if nothing in the movie even happened. For the whole first act, no progress had been made on that technology, Buzz was the only one who wanted to bring the others home, and after Alisha died the new commander immediately shelved the entire project, and Buzz only managed to finish it because a robot therapy cat was more efficient at finding the correct formula than a team of scientists. And after all that, you tell me that everything Buzz and Sox put all that work into was casually achieved off-screen by the same people who didn't care for it in the span of a couple days?!
@@lesigh3410 Exactly, it removes the pathos of the scene when Buzz decides to sacrifice his dream and destroy the crystal. They could have used just five minutes more, something like this: Buzz decides to resign willingly, like at the start of the movie, this time he’s put under arrest, but his effort in destroying Zurg grant him instant parole and a last wish, he only asks to keep Sox and have his friends freed, after some time Sox remembers the formula and tells Buzz about it, Buzz tells the scientists and they are able to replicate it, and then the commander decides to send Buzz back to star command and put him back in the space ranger program, Buzz says he wants his friends there too, and bang, the ending makes more sense.
The Bad Guys had a budget of $70 million, compared to Buzz’s $200 million budget. That’s why their opening numbers are viewed so wildly differently between success and failure.
They'd need usually double or more just to break even, so out of 400 million $ pressumably, they've only made 1/8 through their opening weekend...which is BAD-BAD.
Movie Journals predicted this movie would gross 160-200 million dollars domestically in its opening weekend but shockingly it only grossed 50 million. That's why it's a bomb and btw it needs atleast 400million dollars to break even
I’m with you on bringing the villains back… We wanna watch these things to escape to unrealistic places, not be reminded our worst enemy is ourselves lol.
YES! Everything you said it was missing! It's a fun, family friendly film that is a little too dark and not something I'd recommend outside of Disney+. I agree really should've dove into campy Sci-Fi fun that would grab kids attention and their imagination. ESPECIALLY for a Toy Story aligned film where Andy's imagination is KEY.
"I get it Pixar. You don't want to be tropey, you don't want to be predictable, you want subvert expectations and have layers to your story." If all of that gives us something boring and idiotic I'll take all tropes and expectation any movie can give.
"You don't want to be tropey, you don't want to be predictable" Works when the current trend isn't exactly this lmao. When everyone is avoiding tropes, you become the biggest trope of all.
You know what? Humans are predictable and we have tropes, that’s what makes us human. The struggles we all face give the tropes their value; It’s a matter of how you use them.
Seriously! I had a feeling something would go wrong. Idk the trailer to me felt weird and I had a bad feeling they’d mess up the story once they got near the end….
@@aleisinwndrlen7113 To be fair, they probably just don't care at all one way or the other. It came out over 20 years ago, and the Rule of Demographics is that media has a shelf life of about 7 years. After that, the original age group has grown out of it and the kids that would be the target for it aren't interested in it because "it's old."
They could have done a campy, fun, early-era space fantasy throwback. Something that a young Andy would have appreciated and wanted. Instead we got something that wasn't fun, that took itself way too seriously, and that nobody wants.
2020's Pixar is trying to stuff as many bad movies down peples throats as possible. Honestly Pete Doctor shouldn't have the position he does. John Lasseter wouldn't have let this hapen. Peole need to stohating on Lasseter. Sure Onward came out awhile aftr he was forced to leave Pixar, but it came out early enough that he clearly had some hand in it getting approved and part of it was worked on before his leaving. But every movie afterward is Pete Doctor approved, he's the one whose letting all the trash get through. He is effectively Pixar's Kathleen Kennedy.
@@checkmate6019 I'd say because it was trying to tell an original, personal, and well considered story. This is just squeezing more milk than the tit accounts for, which only ever just gets you bloody milk that gets turned over for making into chocolate milk. Pardon me, I was raised on a dairy farm.
I saw this movie in theaters with a friend, and we did enjoy it. I do see this criticism though, and i think youre right. It can be a fun movie to watch, but it doesn’t really have the same “spirit” that the original Buzz character has, and the twist villains are… pretty tired, haha. Good video, Saberspark
Honestly, since Buzz is such a pure hearted respectful boyscout in Lightyear, I think his dynamic with Zurg would've worked so much better if Zurg was just an unapologetic monster instead of Buzz but evil. Sure, a black and white goodguy vs badguy story is a bit more generic, but they could've made Lightyear's Zurg one of the scariest villains Pixar's given us in a while. Him crushing Sox and then laughing at Buzz's distress or otherwise mocking his grief would have been such a good villain moment and a heart wrenching loss, but instead it just kind of happens, and since that's just Sox from the bad future and the one we know is still okay it sucks out any emotional weight it could have had. But that's just my opinion.
@@dianethebeauty5092 I agree. If they wanted the lesson that Buzz was just as capable of becoming evil then they should have given him more negative character traits than just his obsession with finishing the mission such as a short temper or general scorn for others which could have been taken to an extreme by his future self. Or they could have instead have had Buzz be the best Space Ranger of all, like in Star Command with Zurg being as evil as sin so as to be his opposite.
I think, since this movie supposedly came out in the 90s(?) in accordance with toy story lore, the animation should have been appropriately janky. immersion at its finest
I have to agree. This movie wasn't what I thought it would be. I mean, it could have been so much more - I mean, look at all the things they did with the animated series. Why did Disney hold back with this?
I think one of the reasons this movie is failing is because some general audiences are confused about the premise, the whole premise is basically about the Buzz Lightyear movie that inspired Andy to get a Buzz Lightyear, but obviously that can be confusing for some people who don’t know as much about Toy Story
I don’t know as much about Toy Story. But I felt confident watching as it’s own movie. I believe it’s watchable. Sox was really enjoyable and Chris Evans to me, did a nice job voicing the Legendary Space Ranger.
Hit the nail on the head again Sabrespark, I was so unhappy about Lightyear, and you definitely put what I didn't like about the movie into words that I couldn't. Thank you so much man.
Its a bit sad that movies are going straight to streaming. I remember as a kid going to the movies, it always felt like it was seeing another world. Where it was kinda a museum. I now as an adult can't mentally handle movie theaters, I still remember the wonder of it. The theater I went to as a kid always had this giant memorabilia of 80's to 90's movies. It was breathtaking to me as a kid. I also just loved how movie theaters made you jump into the movie, with the big screen and dark lights, its just you and the movie. As a kid who loved cartoons and art, my biggest thing was seeing animated movies. It was mind blowing to me. I hope movie theaters can jump back, but idk
@@megabuster3940 To be fair, nostalgia bait can be bad too, because it will create comparison between the old and new, and help highlight many flaws. Also when over used, it can be just boring just like the over used of fanservices, specially since both tactics are heavily used to try and hide big flaws with the project. Happened with Star Wars, I can assure you that if you remove all the fanservice scenes from say “Book of Boba Fett”, specially the finale and I can assure you that many would hate the series. So no, nostalgia is good thing to use some time, but when you are Disney and that is your one trick pony, don’t be surprise to see people seeing right through it.
I've loved Zurg for years, and seeing he was in this movie made me hyped to watch it almost every day. Now I wished that I could see from the start what they would do to him.
@@wankawanka3053 I liked the new design from a visual standpoint, but it doesn’t make sense considering this is the film Andy watched as a kid, which still doesn’t make sense.
"A movie about the character Buzz Lightyear, about the character he's based on." Right, that is a cool and creative idea! So cool and creative that *they already did it over a decade ago with the animated series!* This film was obsolete upon conception.
I remember when my dad first told me about this movie, I told him that it already existed. He showed me the trailer, and I realized that I got it mixed up with the animated series that you just mentioned.
When you think about it, all of the most rememorable villains are the ones who don't have a dark back story or a reason to their evil, especially Disney villains. Scar, Ursula, Gaston, Cruella de Vil, even Frollo. They are evil just for the fun of it, and I think for that reason they aren't limited by morals or anything. It makes them a ton of more fun. I wish they did that with Zurg.
Great insight, but I'd like to point out Frollo isn't evil because it is "fun", Frollo is evil because he genuinely thinks he is "righteously" above everyone else, including God. He doesn't consider what he does fun, he just convinces himself that what he is doing is religiously right. He is evil because he refuses to acknowledge he is evil, like many real life villains would. All of the other villains you listed were aware they were evil, even Scar referring to his plan as a "scam" in Be Prepared; Frollo just refuses to see that he is evil, even going as far as explaining that his lust for Esmeralda was because God's plan was to "make the devil so much stronger than a man". Frollo has reason, but it isn't a morally good reason
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This isn't the movie Andy saw. This was the reboot movie Andy goes to with his son to recapture his childhood. The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon was what he watched as a kiddo.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I liked this movie unlike saber I thought it was a great twist on the series. But the way it was marketed and the ways they kept saying "this is the movie Andy saw that made him like buzz" that was stupid, it's delusional, it's like they had never even been a child in the 90s. This isn't the kind of thing that sells toys.
Pixar hates the Star Command cartoon they didn’t make. So to them it’s not canonically what Andy saw. Although maybe it’s for Disney in general still? But it was great.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 Pixar made Lightbeer the movie they lost the ability to say what was canon.
No. This is the movie Andy saw.
@@JiJ1511 That doesn’t make any sense.
It's incredible how a toy is more three dimensional than the character it's based off of.
I honestly the animated version as in 2d was a better buzz lightyear because at least it's the same campy kind of character that the toy had
there's no way Andy would of liked this character or this movie, plus think they forget the fact this movie wouldn't look like this in 1995, if movie came out before that, oh boy
@@kyotheman69 I mean, we don't know what Andy likes. Maybe he was just weird
@@kyotheman69 why do you say that? We arent given THAT much insight into andys interests other than toys.
I mean it makes sense on a meta level. Toy Buzz was a sentient being while Movie Buzz is just a character in a pulp scifi film.
My biggest problem with this movie is the fact that it’s SOOO human centric. Where are the aliens, where is Star Command, where is this Galactic Alliance? It’s crazy because they had an amazing template with Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
Star Command came out in 2000. My guess is that the people who wrote for this movie were barely old enough to remember it, if at all. And even if THEY could, the people in charge of financing and marketing the movie probably assumed that a 20 year old cartoon wouldn't be an easy sell to Generation Alpha kids who were born a decade after it.
Yeah, Star Command took place in an interesting universe that was a lot like Star Trek. Here, there is Star Command, somehow, but it is all just boring humans. It was a letdown.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio They could have easily rebooted it. Masters of the Universe or Thundercats worked well for new kids too.
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@@shanyaray8308 ok
If they had kept Zurg as Buzz’s father it would have been much better, IMO. Like, Buzz goes missing and his dad goes into space looking for him, gets sent millennia into the future (or not), and gets corrupted by the evil robots.
That wouldn't absolutely fit into the movie's storyline and plot, think.
I honestly agree, even though I do actually like Lightyear, that’s the one thing I would’ve changed.
The whole zurg being father thing would have been to predictable since it was already revealed in toy story 2.Predictable = Boring(Not all the time but for this movie it would have been)
@@captaincrystal3705 Perhaps, but at least then it wouldn't have completely contravened the previous lore - tongue-in-cheek _Star Wars_ reference or not.
@@captaincrystal3705 you say that, yet Titanic was the highest grossing film of all time for a while... but we knew how that one was going to end
The fact that if this "movie" was what inspired the toy that Andy wanted...there is no fucking way That Andy would pick the fucking space man over the robot cat.
EXACTLY literally any child would pick the fucking cat
also the premise could have been cool if they actually made it seem like a movie from 1995
Yeah! Make it over the top. My nine year old niece watched the movie and was bored.
I'd rather have a western movie called Woody, Westerns need a comeback.
Remake of Toy Story where everything is the same, except Buzz is replaced by Sox. Woody absolutely hates this little cat.
If this was the movie that Andy seen back in the 1995 then they should have gone all 90's theme, have Buzz be all about justice, have Zurg be a fun villain, like he knows what he is doing is considered evil but doesn't care because he likes being bad
Yes, I grew up in the 90s and everything was so over the top. It so EXTREME!!!!
I would also like to add that if this actually was the movie Andy watched, Sox would have been marketed to hell just for being an adorable cat! In the Toy Story universe, there is no such orange based cat that we have seen, and it would have been farfetched to assume we would never see at least one piece of sox merchandise at all considering that so many people either keep or sell their old plushies. If they would have integrated Sox into Toy Story 4 or maybe one of the shorts to foreshadow this movie's release, I'd have no problem with it. It would just be so unrealistic to not have such a cute animal sidekick not be constantly marketed like how Stitch was
Skeletor like villian
It would make sense if Lightyear is a reboot of Buzz Lightyear movie that Andy seen in the 90's.
Also I hate that official where Andy is watching the movie with his toys in the theater while hogging two seats.
Honestly yeah I agree, that should be true! Considering that this is the movie that Andy enjoyed as a kid back then, it could totally have went for that theme
after seeing this movie,
Its very hard to imagine that a 90's kid like Andy would be remotely interested in owning a buzz lightyear action figure after seeing this.
I was 🥱
@@VenusLily his personality is almost exactly the same. What you mean is this isn’t the Toy Story you grew up with
they quite literally made it more about Alesha's daughter than about buzz. It should've been called "Hawthorn" not "lightyear"
@@joyosumolo4965 how can it be more about her when Buzz is the focus 90% of the time
@@VenusLily
Supporting LGBTQ is cringe.
This was supposed to be a 90’s movie that made Andy want to get a Buzz Lightyear action figure.
Out of all movies, this should’ve been the most lighthearted, action-oriented, “it-happened-because-it-looked-cool” movies.
It really felt like they should’ve saved this plot for a different occasion.
It could've been better if they make it like a satire, to poke fun at a bunch of space opera movies instead of like this
I also feel like since they were going for like an “out of body experience” putting the viewer in the 90s, there shouldn’t have been a homosexual character. I mean I wasn’t alive in the 90s but I feel like I’m accurate in saying that wasn’t very common in film.
Andy does not have good taste in movies
Hearing the summary of the plot is just, "...And you're saying this is a _Buzz Lightyear_ movie?"
It feels like those remakes of 80's cartoons that try way to hard to fit campy characters into gritty stories.
...It kinda is, isn't it.
What about Buzz lightyear Star Command?
@@jonahabenhaim1223 That's the "80's cartoon" in this case. Even though it was 90s/early 2000s.
One of those grim and gritty attempts, wich is something i feel is a problem
Honestly, the toy Buzz had more dimension to his character than the actual Buzz from the movie.
Which just proves Andy was much more better at " personifying" his toys with his play time imagination.
I don't know why Disney is so reclusive with true "villain" villains. It's ok to have a bad guy who's carried by his personality, rather than deep motivations
Preach brother Preach
Not just Disney doing this, it's media in general and it always comes off very flat.
It’s the follow-the-leader mentality. Once GOOD complex villains with deep motivations were being made, everyone wanted to cash in on the “gray villain with a motivation” train, while forgetting what made the originals so popular in the first place.
If only they hired fucking good writers
Definitely. While the misunderstood trope can work, it honestly feels cheap nowadays that "no one is evil, for the sake of being evil".
Which is such a missed opportunity, cuz the Zurg of the cartoon show literally didn't care about anyone, and was just the typical, corny, but intimidating Saturday morning cartoon villain.
What they did in this iteration is a bit of a mess being honest. Time travel, and also adding the "found ancient tech by accident lmao" takes you off a bit
@@emblemblade9245 Unfortunately, media makers in general are more worried about doing what's safe and profitable rather than what's genuinely good. Having a good motivation makes a character sympathetic, but having an ostentatious personality makes them likeable. Somewhere, someone mixed the two up, so now we get a bunch of plain oatmeal villains that have sad backstories but zero charisma. Because they think that's what people want, and has the lowest risk.
Zurg looked really cool in this movie, he was pretty intimidating, but it would've been so much better if they just let him be evil for the sake of it. Them having the stupid twist and trying too hard to make him more empathetic completely killed any intrigue I had for him. A movie is only as good as it's villain.
But they didn't make him empathetic, all he wanted to do was to matter again, je was absolutely selfish and he didn't care about anyone, that's not empathetic
I find it funny and weird how the design of Buzz Lightyear in Lightyear was based more so off the toy in Toy Story, rather than trying to make it seem like the toy was based off the character. Like, they've integrated buttons and things into the suit that were supposed to be for the laser and voice lines on the original toy. I feel like those buttons shouldn't have even been on the original character. it would've made more sense that they were added just for the toy.
Yeah, I agree.
My god, you’re so right
Oh heck, that’s a good point-
See this is a big piece of evidence beyond all else that this is NOT the movie that inspired Andy to get the actionf igure. Live-action movies are NOT made with selling merch in mind, not original IP's anyway, because you don't know how well or not well it will perform. So to design sacesuits to look like toys, that you have no confirmation that people will WANT to buy in the first place, it doesnt' work. Star Wars can do it for LATER films, but the first Star Wars definitely didn't do this, in fact that franchise is what made buying merch based off that kind of film a thing to begin with.
@kyestar88 I haven't watched Toy Story in God knows how long. Apologies for misremembering the technical aspects of Buzz Lightyear's plastic suit.
I really think they should've went into the overly-corny side of Buzz, since he was really meant to be based on stereotypical space cartoons and such. Same way Woody was a stereotypical cowboy toy. Being ironically cheesy and overly-corny would've worked really well (and also on the marketing side they could've also appealed to the nostalgia of older audiences as well. Let's be honest)
It would've been fun if it was a more comedic parody of old space cartoons, instead of trying to be a more modern space story.
Years of academy training wasted!
It wasn’t trying to be a more modern space story though.
@@RM-cn8pw Stop riding pixar
@@IronIsKing Even if that were what I was doing, why?
Problem is if they did that everyone would probably complain about how tropy it is. I guess that's what pixar were scared of too
I remember some years back after Incredibles 2, Pixar saying they didn't want to make sequels to their previous projects anymore and focus on newer properties. Kinda curious what the sentiment is on this one internally.
Pixar has kind of lost it's luster. Their movies recently aren't so hot.
@@MrScigeek101 from the dinosaur move forward disney movies haven't been as good as they used to be
@@ehtresih9540 I'd go so far as to say Big Hero 6 was the last good Pixar movie; maybe Princess and the Frog.
This isn't a sequel.
@@patrickcarter2829 Neither of those are Pixar movies lol.
After watching Lightyear, I can say it's not bad but no way in hell was it a fun movie for kids. Sox carried all the lightheartedness of the movie. Kids are also more visually impressed and the movie was mostly people talking.
The kids in the theater I was watching in seemed to like it a lot.
Yeah, I just watched it last night and I really don’t get the hate. Yes, there were slow moments but over all pretty action packed. Didn’t even notice the same couple scene that so many bich about. And your right, Sox carried all the lightheartedness and was my absolute favorite. I was also happy to see a cat being the main companion.
@@mariem8705 You mean the same couple SCENES, that were foreshadowed by "I got Engaged" "Who is her?". It was almost 10 minutes of the movie. No way you missed that
It was very boring and it doesn’t seem like a movie that Andy would love so much in his childhood. In theaters, kids werent quite paying attention to the movie. They talked during the whole movie and only once exclaimed “she’s dead!” At Hawthorne’s death. But Sox was adorable and my favorite part of the movie, which says a lot.
While we were watching the movie, my mom kept on saying that her childhood was ruined because the cat wasn’t in toy story
The animation alone makes me really want to like the movie because it's just so good, but I think you made a lot of really good points, and I definitely agree that it should have been more of what you said, with buzz exploring planets and zurg being the big bad guy, and having it be generally more like a cheesy but fun action movie.
Yea, sounds like a good time
I think thats set up pretty well since theyre space rangers now, they explore planets and stuff and since zurg is still alive what you said could be very possible and would be a fun great guardians of the galaxy type movie
Honestly if Zurg was a big bad evil it would have been cheesy and one dimensional.
they fucked up Buzz's look which is the most important part. he looks ugly and uncanny.
They should've made it look like some Flash Gordon, Jodoworsky's Dune cheesy campy crazeapolosa
"let us have an unapologetically evil villain again"
YES! THANK YOU! I'm ok with complex villains but it's just happened SO much in media lately I just want to see them change it up a bit. I keep hearing them say "This is the movie Andy saw" what, as an adult? It feels like a reboot of the buzz he grew up with. If anything I thought he watched a buzz show or something not a movie. And I'm just tired of people arguing about the kiss in general.
Because it is a reboot of the buzz you grew up with
@@simonpetrikov3992 yeah but from what I heard they don't describe it like that I guess idk
Also wow so many likes uh thanks :D
Haven't heard a single person argue about the kiss. Pretty sure the "controversy" is made up
Disney is obsessed with twist villains to the point where its boring and predictable. A normal fucking villain would be a more surprising twist at this point.
The kiss discourse is bullshit. Its a short peck, if that has you feeling anything you need to shut the fuck up
@@svancina probably trolling too
I only imagine adult Andy going to the cinema and thinking "This soulless reboot of my childhood is just a cash grab."
Take that Pixar, even your own characters hate the movies your making
@@rachaelgreen1812 Having Adult Andy making a video ranting about how the new film ruined his childhood in the cinema parking lot would be pretty entertaining, if only for the meta purposes.
The other problem I had was the movie doesn’t feel like a movie from the 90s. And from a character designer perspective, Buzz’s suit looks so out of place with this realistic and gritty take. I would have taken inspiration from The Fifth Element, The Jetsons, Guardians of the Galaxy, even the Ratchet and Clank game had fun sci fi environments.
incredibles did so much better with giving a 90s superhero feel
@@yaboi-rowlet I know, the artstyle, the character, environments and the music gave it a retro superhero feel. It felt like it had a personality.
The other problem for me personally is it almost felt like they were trying to take the focus away from Buzz by introducing us to this best friend character that even my niece who adores original Buzzlightyear forgets the name of. And the character of Buzz himself failed to capture the spirit of an adventurous space ranger.
Usually the morals are so deep in Pixar movies too. But this one was just “oh, it’s okay to make mistakes”
And I’m like…. “That’s it?!?!”
I thought the message was that you should live is the present and not be blinded chasing the past.
Buzz spends most of the first act oblivious to the lives the crew are having on the planet or getting blindsided by developments that happen while he's gone. The second act has him has him confronted with undeniable evidence that his partner lived a good life while he'd been on all those test flights. The climax comes when Buzz is confronted by Zurg who is literally the end result of him relentlessly trying to get back to the glory days of being a space ranger and who wants to undo the lives everybody else had lived on the planet. Finally, the conflict is resolved when Buzz sacrifices the hyper speed crystal (the culmination of his efforts to return to being a space ranger) to incapacitate Zurg.
It was really weird.
My friend and I kept cringing and laughing at parts we weren't supposed to laugh at. Specifically, the "new space rangers" fucking everything up.
Thank God for Sox. 😅
the moral was about learning to appreciate things as they are instead of being stuck in the frame of what could have been or what could be.
Buzz is a socially isolated person who’s only known friend dies. E doesn’t learn the value of the present until e bonds with a team and learns to love and appreciate them, until then, all Buzz had was a job. For a lot of people who struggle with self-value and obsessing over being important (or seeming more important in the eyes of the public) it was a very good theme.
One that reminds me of Soul’s theme about learning to enjoy living not just chasing a goal.
and that moral doesn't even work for the movie because every person in the movie kept willingly not listening to each other and then acting surprised when shit doesn't work right. buzz had 15 chances(I did the math after I saw the movie, 60-70 years pass and its 4 years each time) to stop and he didn't stop to look around and see his best friend slowly dying, which just makes him feel like an idiot you don't care about rather then being a determined person who wants to fix things
edit: i had a few moore thoughts
him not even noticing his friend starting to age or even talking to her outside of just a small meetup before going to bed to do the same shit again makes him seem like an apathetic asshole who didn't actually care about her enough to spend time with her, which goes against what the movie tries to tell you after her death that he was her best friend
i also hate her character because she's literally just a bury your gays trope with her not getting much screen time and ends up dying with her probably straight granddaughter stealing the spotlight instead
They wasted so much time and money making the graphics look good they forgot to make an actual story, kinda like how rushed Incredibles 2 story is and how weak the villain is.
The Buzz Lightyear television series actually fit more into the spirit of the franchise. Apparently, John Lasstner wanted to make the show more serious, like Space Ghost, but since Disney went with the more comedic approach for the final product, he grew to resent the series and forbid it from being used in the main canon. Now that this movie came out, people are starting to talk about the series more.
From what little i've seen of it, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command much better encapsulates what Buzz Lightyear is than the movie. It is kinda weird that patrick warburton voices Buzz though.
@@ToastyNoneofyourbusiness Patrick Warburton is still a better Buzz than Chris Evans.
Wow, I didn't know that about Lasstner. What a supreme jerk. Imagine making something so beloved by hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of kids and then resenting it because you weren't allowed to make it *as* serious and dark as you wanted. I mean, I watched that show as a kid and yes, it was comedic but it had serious moments, it wasn't like, y'know, Teen Titans Go or something. It wasn't brainless entertainment for children, it had heart.
@@Shenaldrac yeah if certain allegations are true, "jerk" may be a bit generous
The thing that drove me away from Lightyear is buzz design....God I hate how it looks cartoony in a serious environment...it doesn't look right.
But in star command he looked right at home. A cartoony character with more cartoony characters it makes sence.
Man, I was hoping for a Cheesy, 90s style Star Commander-inspired movie. That woulda’ been fun.
Me too! That was all I wanted. All the kids in theater when I saw it looked soooo bored.
Yeah me too!
Funny thing there already is and it’s Called Buzz lightyear of Star command.
Nothing like that!
@Pointless Videos A guy named Ev@n made Have we? I don't think we NEEDED one, you know? What movie could've lived up to why Andy thinks Buzz is so awesome?
The only thing that offended me about this movie is that someone really thought that I (and the majority of the world, for that matter) would be dumb enough to believe that a 6 or so year old 90's child would pick it over the original 2000's show.
But really, this coud have been a great movie if it had been an original story with nothing to do with TS.
i agree with you
I seriously thought it was going to be in that universe/setting, I was excited to see either a recreation of the pilot movie or a new take on it
I honestly agree with the common consensus that the movie feels more like a reboot of the property that Andy would see with his kids. That at least makes more sense (as much as a diss that it kind of is)
@@SiRenfield I head canon this as the "Live-Action Reboot" of the Buzz Lightyear show in the Toy Story universe. You know how Hollywood had that habit where they take a show from the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s, etc. , and making a Live-Action movie to drag in old fans. cause that what this Feels like. Andy (I believe) would be on the Internet b*tching about everything they got wrong, just like *_Transformers_* fans did when the Michael Bay *_Transformers_* movies came out.
My father said after watching a trailer "this movie looks too serious for kid Andy to want to see it and buy a toy from the movie. The vibe doesn't radiate kid energy at all"
@🍿Kittycorntv145🎬 or Zurg
Your dad really said "The vibe doesn't radiate kid energy at all"
I agree. This could of been a totally different thing if they didn't try to tie it directly to buzz lightyear, and the movie Andy supposedly saw. Let's not forget Andy grew up in the 90's-early 2000's.
@@Brindlebrother yeah. He's 50 but tries to talk younger than he is
But don’t forget a TON of adult movies sold toys kids loved and lost their minds over. Robocop, the Aliens movies, Terminator, the Jurassic Park/World movies, etc. And, even if the movies were for adults, it doesn’t stop kids from watching them. I was watching the newest Jurassic World in theaters and a mom sat next to me with four kids all between the ages of five and nine by estimate. They watched the whole movie too, not once needing to be removed from the theaters for crying or screaming (unlike my brother who had to be taken out of the theatre when he and my mom were watching Bambi. BAMBI.)
Every time I hear about "subverting expectations", I just marvel at how it became a trope in itself... A trope that ate its own tail.
People started expecting the unexpected... And eventually "subverting the expectations" became a code word "lazy or plain bad writing".
You expected something good? Consider your expectation subverted!
its an idea thats been done too much. subverting expectations when done well is giving someone something that they did not go in wanting but ending up liking. that's hard to do correctly so most writers should just make something good and leave it too the really good writers to subvert expectations. now that a lot more poeple are attempting it more writers who are just good at best and more typically bad are attempting it and failing due to lack of talent.
This is the wrong way to subvert expectations, genius. I mean you are the genius, and the other people you criticize are not the genius.
Animated Atrocities #147 taught me a lot about how to NOT subvert expectations when it can ruin your story.
A true ouroboros
Subverting expectaions is a good thing when it fits in the plot. This just kinda contraditcts Toy Story.
I’m surprised they didn’t just stick with Zurg being Buzz Lightyears father. Being that Zurg is a parody of Darth Vader they totally should’ve stuck with that and played into it rather than doing another Buzz.
as well as the fact that they released the movie on _Father's Day?_
I'm kind of glad they didn't, I always took that line as a bit of joke Toy Story 2
The movie now is a “bit of a joke”
That was just a throwaway joke/reference. It wasn't meant to be taken that seriously.
@@FoxtrotMouse It’s a valid concern. Zurg and Buzz in that Toy Story 2 scene are taking everything seriously. Buzz believes he’s a real space ranger, and Zurg pursues him with all the intent of a real evil emperor. When he drops “I am your father,” it is a reference to Star Wars, and it gets a laugh… but the characters aren’t joking. That is who they are.
So when they advertised “the REAL story of Buzz! “The same movie that Andy watched!” I expected them use all those hokey tropey references that were established as canon. And they completely changed it.
All I know is if I was Andy’s age, I would not have enjoyed Lightyear. The movie itself was ok but extremely underwhelming.
Wtf are you on about
@@toastisity maybe learn how to read.
i think if Zurg had just been a simple, classic space emperor villain like Ming the Merciless it would have been better. He could have just detected Buzz's repeated tests and pursued the hyper crystal so he could achieve faster than light travel and faciliated further conquest of the galaxy. It gives the plot stakes and Buzz is still partially responisible for bringing the villain to the planet.
Or it could’ve been a story where Buzz first tries the hyperdrive but ends up in a different system discovering Zurg (This Zurg is Zurg no old Buzz Lightyear crap). Buzz flees back to the Mothership warning that they have leave now right before Zurg’s fleet kills them all, the Mothership flees but Buzz decides to stay back and make sure Zurg follows him instead of the mothership, which then leads to the rest of the film being about Buzz traveling the galaxy outmaneuvering Zurg in the hopes of finally making it back home.
@@def3ndr887 I would watch that movie
Yess! Zurg on his own is terrifying too. Some wasted opportunities.
No it has to be his dad and they play catch.
For a studio that doesn't like being "tropey", this really sounds like every worst Star Trek trope in one movie.
Are any abusive amount of lense flares?
Thankfully I have never seen Star Trek so I can enjoy the film
In regards to Lightyear doing badly compared to Encanto and Turning Red and the whole "movie theaters vs streaming" aspect, I think it's important to remember that Encanto and Turning Red were new original storylines. Lightyear is not, since it was trying to ride the coattails of the Toy Story franchise.
Yea they fucked up
I honestly think that's what fails it, too. It doesn't fit the tone of either the Toy Story series or the Buzz Lightyear cartoon, yet the tone the lighting and color palette seem to be going for feels strange with the unrealistic character designs. It all looks a bit off. It's not making me feel nostalgic, but also not making me feel excited or interested to discover the new.
@@Dumbledoresarmy13 wow same af
Even then, Turning Red wasn't great because the parents couldn't be bothered to tell their daughter what would happen to her.
Encanto bombed. Not as bad as Lightyear, but it still bombed.
Making this super cheesy would of been a nostalgic trip and introduce kids to a new medium of animation. This is SUPPOSED to be in 1995. MAKE. IT. CHEESY. and also have it really embark Buzz’s personality
I really really really really REALLY miss the unapologetically evil villains, too!
I have enjoyed some of the newer villains, but nothing will ever compare to the REAL villains from past movies. They're so charismatic and, most importantly (for some of them), FUN!!! The last fun villain I can remember was Dr. Facilier from Princess and the Frog, and he was amazing! I MISS the crazy, over-the-top villains! Why can't the bad guy just be evil, why do we need a twist-villain every damn movie now??
Welllllll. But Dr. Facilier, while CLEARLY a semi-return to black and white villainy, was himself a trojan horse grey villain in that he was working not WITH the Loa but in SPITE of them in order to attempt to settle a debt of blood and souls with them. What make's him truer to classic villainy is his unbridled arrogance toward both Rich people AND personally Motivated people like Tiana. And so he is a classic villain because the entire time, he never tries to get his opponent's to sympathize with him. He is always Clear with Tiana and her group that he is their enemy. He even kills their firefly friend.
Villains NOWADAYS are these pushy crybaby losers that under regular circumstances and even common sense should stand no CHANCE against the classic Hero. But What do we have instead? Falcon acting UNCHARACTERISTICALLY dense and unconvincingly forgiving toward the Flag Smashers at EVERY opportunity in his miserable show! When the reason Your Villain wins is because your Hero sucks artificially, it's not because the villain is capable...But what do I know? xD
Tamatoa is the closest thing we've gotten recently.
@@connorbeith3232 Agreed. He's like Hexes from Ferngully. Chaos elemental with the goal of spreading more chaos.
I watched a few of the newer Disney animated movies and I miss good ol villains too. Why does the enemy have to be something like something like the concept of greed?
@@connorbeith3232 yeah, Tamatoa was great, and he wasn’t even the main villain.. that’s just sad. We know they still can make these fun villains, but for some reason they just choose not to
The "this doesnt feel like buzz lightyear" is exactly what ive been feeling seeing trailers. I was like this feels like any other space action movies that have come out with buzz spashed on it. :/ it feels...like it doesnt have the soul it should.
This feels too dark. I think they should've gone for something more corny, comedic, and not dark or gloomy.
I think if Pixar can make movies like WALL-E, they could have made this but without the Buzz lightyear stuff. make it it's own thing.
Interstellar, with a Buzz Lightyear skin.
It's almost the same as making a movie about a mermaid and not changing her name from Ariel to something else in spite of refusing to cast a ginger actress. Although The Littler Mermaid live-action should still be better than Lightyear.
@@poisonedyoyo The bar isn't very high to begin with.
Gotta love how they have lore of the Buzz Lightyear in the actual Toy Story and do barely anything with it. Like why is the cat here and not in any Toy Story movies? That thing would sell like hot cakes if it existed back in the 90s or any time during any of the Toy Stories. Zurg and Buzz are the only ones in the Toy Story universe who apparently become toys. (I mean it's they're are full aisles of 1 Toy.)
Ikr imagine
Ik my comment has nothing to do with yours, but holy shit this bot is insane. Didn't know a bot can screenshot yt thumbnail that just out for less than 10 minutes and use it as their pfp
Maybe Sox wasn’t as popular as Buzz was
@@ZekeorSomething It's a robot cat that's the comedy of the movie. Business perspective would think that this would be incredibly marketable
Yeah, how come Andy wanted a Buzz toy when he was bland and boring in this movie, but not Sox? Most kids would have wanted Sox.
Watching this review makes me want to go revisit the old animated movie "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command". You know, the one that had a focus on battling the Evil Emperor Zerg, as opposed to mechanic's struggles. And it showed that even the "kids stuff" could still be cool.
I was so convinced that new commander was gonna end up becoming Zurg. He already had an army of evil looking soldiers, and then he's an asshole and goes on about a "laser shield". I thought Buzz would finally go warp speed, and return so many years later that the colony had turned into Zurg's evil robot society. Then it happened, Buzz warped, he came back and that Laser Shield! So red and ominous over the colony. Looked evil. But they're being attacked? Ugh. I expected Buzz to shoot some big weapon at Zurg only for it to hit and do no damage, then he says "What don't you get about laser shield?".
I'm rambling, but man. I just did not expect Zurg to be so lame.
Honestly that would’ve been so cool.
I think your idea is not that bad. If one of the themes of the movie is about the exploration spirt of humanity. A good way the movie could have worked it. Is that with each jump Buzz makes the original astronauts that want to go back get older. The new generation loses hope of scaping the planet and get used to just being trapped. The new commander also scales in rank with each time skip getting more tyrannical and obsessed with control and keeping the colony safe. With the last jump the old generation dies and the new commander finally gets total control becoming Zorg. Buzz could be the hero that keeps trying to improve things even with constant defeats and the sacrifice of seeing his friends get older and die.
As cool as that might have been, I disagree that the Zurg plot was lame. Blew my fuckin’ mind that the twist wasn’t what I was expecting. I thought I saw what was coming, then was like “whoa!”
Half of these damn reviews have me questioning “did we even watch the same movie?!”
He should have been Zurg. He basically held the people hostage there out of safety and being sheltered is what we need to STOP being. This only enables that. It's really the worst message for kids. Yeah, being in a bubble your whole life is so good for you. Please.
@@juan0808 please develop this concept further before I steal it. I want to see that movie.
I loved the part where he said "It's buzzin' time!" and then he stood up straight and fell over like frozen stiff and started vibrating around on the floor.
I love that part. It literary save the movie for me.
Mines was when he said “Im about to buzz” Really made my blood buzz
My favorite scene happened when Buzz and zerg were morbing so hard they almost broke the space time continuum.
mine was when rex appeared and said "dinos together, strong"
don't forget the part where the entire town of Haddonfield sang "Evil Dies Tonight, Tonight, Tonight"!
The whole “future version of the main character being the villain” thing was done much better in Channel Chasers
Hell, a movie about legos had the same twist and was more compelling.
Actually you're confusing that with Danny Phantom "Ultimate Enemy"
Lego Movie 2 did it better as well
Yea I completely agree
And cadence of hyrule
Lightyear truly has to be one of the films released in 2022 so far.
Chris Evans did a job playing Buzz Lightyear and the action was in the
film. The film has storytelling and the CGI was animated. The side
characters were along with Buzz Lightyear and the villain was a bad guy.
The jokes were sentences. This film really is one of the films of all
time, if not the last decade.
I laughed reading this good God, you're 100% right
@@teddypawncrumps23 You mean they're *percent* right
You forgot the part where he said "it's buzzin time"
If wasn't for a robotic cat is very out of place thought, this would have easily been one of the worst movies i have ever seen, and i have seen a lot of bad and 'bad" movies
Say what you want but Evans did a great job
I feel that the marketing hurt the movie's interest especially for a PIXAR movie. Turning Red in streaming performed better than Lightyear in theaters. Maybe it had an identity crisis or something where it was trying to decide whether it wanted to appease to folks who grew up with Buzz since Toy Story 1 or those completely new to the lore.
@today was a good day FAX MY ASS
Did you know there are countless examples of how studios should never, EVER do this? Charlie's Angels (2019), Terminator Dark Fate, also 2019. Technically even Frozen II, also 2019 but that somehow broughtt a new audience to the franchise and attacked the people who love the original. And doesn't seem to understand WHY Frozen is so popular. The first one did everything it could to bring the two sisters together. The second movie did everything it could to TEAR THEM APART, and the worst part is, it did exactly that. Ane Elsa's "Do you want to build a snowman?" i like scratching Anna's face with sharp fingernails till it bleeds. Every time Anna asked that question, it meant, "Do you want to spend time with me?" When Elsa asks it, in this trashfest, it means, "Hey Anna, do you want to separte and only see me on SPECIAL OCCASIONS? Forget having a door between us, how about A HUGE EXPANSE OF AREA HAHAHAHAGHAHHAHAHH"
People think Lightyear ruined something, but as bad as it is, it's nowhere near as bad as what was done to Elsa and Anna.
So like a Sonic Team-developed Sonic game? Specifically Sonic Forces? Sonic Forces is a pretty egregious example of chasing too many different types of Sonic fans (Classic fans, Adventure fans, fans of the Archie Sonic comics, fans of light-hearted Sonic stories, people who want darker stories from Sonic, etc etc) and ending up with almost none of them…
If you want to know how badly Pixar dropped the ball on this one, all I can say is this:
The Toy Story films established literally THREE plot elements for the media Buzz was from.
1.) Buzz was a space ranger, specifically sworn to protect the galaxy from the evil emperor Zerg.
2.) Given how Buzz acted when he thought he was the real Buzz, and the commercials we saw for his toys, it can be inferred that the original media was very campy, and very much Saturday-morning-cartoony.
3.) Buzz is Zerg’s son, but Buzz doesn’t know.
Pixar fumbled literally all of these.
Buzz is a space ranger, sure, but he is not sworn to protect the galaxy, but moreso just the colony of humans he’s assigned to. A far cry from the universe trekking adventures he was implied to always go on.
The movie also takes itself as seriously as any other Pixar movie, meaning it takes itself seriously, and then there’s a comedic relief character off to the side, who’s complaining about not getting his coffee of some sh*t, while everyone else is grieving over something. So the tone is just not really fun, and this is only highlighted when Buzz says any of the iconic Buzz lines from Toy Story. When Buzz says “Not today, Zerg!” It just feels out of character for this Buzz, like they remembered last second that he had to say that line at some point.
Uh, spoilers, Buzz is not only not Zerg’s son, but Zerg is actually a giant robot piloted by the main villain, and doesn’t share a similar design to any of his depictions in Toy Story 2. The Zerg mech is the size of a small building, and doesn’t have the waste cloak. Toy Story 2, both the in-universe video game from the start, and the actual Zerg toy, portrayed him as being about Buzz’s height.
So, in conclusion, just watch the cartoon that came out a few decades back. It’s far better.
To be fair, not even the cartoon took Zurg being Buzz's father seriously. But yeah, the cartoon definitely did the first two points way better
One point here. In the original cartoon, Zurg wasn't Buzz's dad. I think at one point Zerg was pinned by Buzz and said: "Buzz, I have something to say, I am your father." Buzz was stunned, but Zurg used that opportunity to throw Buzz over and call him an idiot and that he was lying.
Pretty sure the Zurg being Buzz's dad was just a joke for the second movie.
@@ararepotato1420 Definitely. Straight up reference to Star Wars.
@@ararepotato1420 Zurg is straight up a liar, he has proven he is not trust worthy even in the cartoon, and incredibly goofy. Which does fit the Campiness factor of the media he was supposed to come from. So him playing with his "son" in the second Toy Story film would be in character if he had received a hard enough knock to the head and Buzz found him still convinced he was his father.
The Zerg was buzz’s father thing was just a joke put in the second movie to parody Star Wars. The star command cartoon made that clear with Buzz’s dad being a recurring character in it.
Originally, when I heard this movie was being produced for the first time, I thought this was going to be the movie Andy made after going to college and becoming a big film producer. I say this because when he was younger, we saw how creative and how he played with the toys; it was as if he was making some film, going as far as giving the various toys characteristics and specific roles to play. We never really knew what his goal was when going to college, so with that ambiguity the film producer could've said this is Andy's film.
Okay, this is kind of a neat idea.
Yes, that or just stating that it was a Reboot of the movie that Andy saw because a lot of things don't add up.
i think this is a neat idea! i kinda head canon this as a remake of the original in-universe lightyear film from the 90s
That sounds better than the movie we got
You should’ve written the damn movie.
And then ended it with adult Andy getting endlessly complimented about how good his movie is and then getting asked “What’s next?” and then maybe he could mention an idea he had about being inspired by an old cowboy doll he played with as a kid.
Old Buzz "I figured if we can go forward in time, we can go back in time"
Me: "That's not how time dilation works..."
Buzz: "You can't go back in time!"
Old Buzz: "I'm here right now aren't I?" (You know it's bad when the writers _know_ it makes no sense and don't bother to explain it)
All this movie did is remind people of the existence of the oft-forgotten and far superior Buzz Lightyear of Star Command.
It's sad seeing Pixar decline like this.
I never forgot, and after this bullshit I'll never forgive.
@Tiffanie Lovett where would they watch it? As far as I know it ain't on Disney+
@Tiffanie Lovett thanks yeah I saw something about Pixar Employees apparently didn't like the show and it didn't really get a release
You win some, you lose some
You say decline as if their last few movies weren't above average
Does anyone remember that moment in the beginning where buzz was doing complex math problems on his ship's window? I thought that they were going to go more in depth and how buzz is smart and comes up with great strategies, but then it was never brought up again ... they made room for so many cool plot threads but never used them.
It's like they wanted to go as far out of their way as possible to not have anything to do with the animated Buzz show, which is why it feels like just another generic sci-fi movie. Also, I really like the way Saber says "the-a-ter" lol
Sucks that they didn't make many references to Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. Would've been so nostalgic.
@@OwNAvenged I think that's the point though, they didn't want people to remember that Buzz, they're trying to retcon the whole thing
Honestly I’m on board with rebeltaxis theory about the show potentially being a joint venture with UPN, and that the show concept, and characters belong to them , it’s like how for He-man the original cartoon is considered a separate entity from the Toy line rights wise , why they never just tried to buy the show back is a mystery , or they legit hated the show that much
It sounds so awkward every time he says it lmao
How do you say it? Everyone I know says it "the-a-ter". I didn't know there was another way to say it. /srs
What I loved about Sox is that normally animal companions in a movie really annoy me. Like, their funny but they are annoying to the main charecter and are just a nuisance. I love how Sox doesn’t cause anything bad, and I love how he is ACTUALLY HELPFUL TO THE MAIN CHARACTER. normally animal companions are just… there to be there. And I thought it would be the same with Sox when Buzz took him out of his box. i feel like I repeated myself a lot here- :/
I feel like the only reason Sox doesn’t work in this movie is because you can’t pin all of the pressure to get a laugh out of audiences and relieve tension on one character, it just doesn’t work. In Mulan for example, Mushu is clearly the main comic relief, but there’s still plenty of humor in the grandma, the 3 soldiers that Mulan is friends with, and even Mulan herself. More recently in Frozen, Olaf is the comic relief but Anna can still be funny, Duke of Weselton is a lighter villain, the trolls, and Kristoff all have funny moments. If you want some funny in your movie, you need more funny, not one funny.
I think it could've worked, if it was built around the cartoon or at least felt like a movie of the era
My dad has always considered Buzz Lightyear to be his favorite character in a Disney movie. When the first movie came out, he took my sister and I to see it ( Not that I remember because I was a toddler). The whole plot about buzz having to come to terms with that fact that he was just a toy and not a space ranger resonated with my dad who was coming off the high of earning his masters and getting stuck in a crappy job at the time that he couldnt just leave or risk losing his Visa for the US.
Wow.
I feel that. Prayers and well wishes to your family. 🤘🏾🖤✨
I didn't experience that watching the movie (obviously, I was a kid), but it hit hard when I saw it. Knowing that it was visceral, real, disappointing, and that I may hit a wall like that someday.
I got all of that out of a movie I saw as a kid, vs. this movie, where I'm an adult who's been through a lot, but the story connection just isn't quite there.
They should've just allowed Zurg to be a big robot
I wholeheartedly agree
I can unhear "DESTROY BUZZ LIGHTYEAR" when Zurg walks.
Yeah I figured out he was a mech suit immediately after he said buzz's name
He still is out there....
Or future buzz who became a cyborg to prolong his life trying to reach his goal and eventually going insane taking on the role of Zorg
I can't think this being the movie Andy saw as a kid. It really doesn't make sense. It was ok as a movie but bad as a Lightyear origin story. It was too depressing and too human centric. Sox was my favorite but I didn't really care about the other characters.
Ya andy would get a Sox toy not a buzzlughtyear toy if he saw this movie.
@@loganshaw4527 Yup, this!
Yeah in all their attempts at being "passive progressive," they ended up speciesist instead. Would it really have killed them to at least include the Claw Machine aliens?
My problem with Disney lately is that all their movies could be so good on their own, but they've tethered them to already existing properties. It's just like with Cruella. If that movie hadn't been connected to Cruella, if it had been it's own movie, it would have been so much better. It was so close to being perfect, but they had to connect it to something else. Half the time when you were watching you'd forget it was about Cruella. Sever the connection. Make something original
The fact they made that movie makes me so mad. There are so many Disney villains that people argue are actually not in the wrong and the woman who wanted to kill puppies for clothing was not one of them.
Nothing wrong with back story movies, but people who were fans of Cruella said, "that's not Cruella, I don't know who it is, but it's definitely not Cruella." Same with this, people said "we already had a back story with Star command cartoon"
I feel exactly the same way about Solo! a heist movie set in Star Wars? Sounds cool! But no, they had to tether it to the main story somehow And in the process had to shoehorn in Chewbacca and a young Solo whose personality makes no sense. They took the scoundrel out of cinema's most famous scoundrel, it would have been a great movie if they just made a new character.
Exactly. I do really like Lightyear and as much as I think it sucks that its getting a lot of hate, I can't exactly blame people too much. Nothing about what's good with the film is a result of it being a Lightyear film, and most of what people hate about it could almost be wiped away if it was a new IP.
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I mean...I think it's fine for a movie to tackle a villain regardless of how horrendous they are. And I mean look at the Joker...he's done despicable things in the comics, torture, murder, rape, manipulation etc. Yet we still got a movie for that character- granted it's not exactly a comic oriented joker from what I'm hearing? But I remember seeing some of cruella and it wasn't allign to the cruella in the og movie.
Pixars weird hatred for the Buzz Lightyear cartoon series really shot them in the foot this time around. The refusal to incorporate ANYTHING from the series into this movie really hurt them.
Sox is perfect though I love him.
I haven’t seen that show in like.. sixteen years, so maybe I’m just misremembering, but wasn’t the show actually not bad? I remember watching it a lot when I was a little kid. Granted, my only memory of that show was that there was a character who’s head looked like a Kraft mac & cheese noodle (and I thought that was really funny) but my Mom would sit and watch with me, which she didn’t do with many kids’ TV shows.
Right?! I loved the cartoon I don’t understand why this movie was even made.
I didn’t even know Pixar hated the cartoon, it honestly was good. The characters were good, the storylines were good. I don’t get it!
I haven't seen the show but I absolutely adore the Star Command movie. Tim Allen with Patrick Warburton's vocal style is so good, the characters really work well together, the plot is simple and well executed, the twist is great, and Zurg is just so unapologetically evil. Like, if they had more or less remade that movie, it would have hit every single criticism Saber had for the new Lightyear.
@@finalfroggitapproaches6418 A lot of it's on youtube in pretty good quality, not gotten around to watching it again yet.
@Final Frog it Approaches: Trust me, its not just your memory. I have been watching it recently (along with the pilot movie) and its writing still seems to hold up quite well.😊
When this movie was first announced, all I thought was "Why?". They added some references to Buzz Lightyear but also added so much new stuff. They could have just made an original movie instead of letting the references force the movie to go a certain way. But I guess if you slap on a recognizable name like Buzz Lightyear, they assumed they can just make a bunch of money. And can we blame them for assuming that? They made over a billion $ just by remaking the Lion King and slapping that name onto it.
Yeah, this was highly underwhelming! Wish they added more stuff about Zerg
not just lightyear being unnecessary but here comes the grump and Crampdon academy, seriously what drugs are the animators are on.
This would still be a bad movie if they made a new sace ranger not named Buzz be the focus but at least it wouldn't have the same baggage.
I love the phrase “passive progressive,” it’s very appropriate.
The 19th century was the 1800’s.
By the sounds of this review, and considering how it was pitched, is not what people wanted.
Disney doesn’t care though. I kinda saw it as “they’re in the middle of nowhere, who cares” kind of thing
Pixar Employee: So Lightyear didn’t do so well… I guess we can’t expect nostalgic characters to carry themselves in a tone or genre completely alien to their original films.
Pixar Executive: So how are we going to bounce back from this?
Pixar Employee: Hmm… How about a recreation of Woody and the round up gang reimagined as a bloody crime noir?
Pixar Executive: Okay, first of all, promoted.
The broken man picked up what was to him a mediocre half empty bottle of
[Redacted because this is Pixar], not far enough to reach his lips, but just ever so enough for you to know he was considering finishing the bottle. He begins to turn it side by side like a pendulum for a few moments before putting it down. Then he takes his hat off and places it gently besides the bottle. You glance at him and see the colorless face of a defeated man. The saddest word in the English language is "almost" and though you don't know it yet, this man's life has had it's plenty of "almost." He was almost the leader. He was almost the best. He almost said it. He almost had her love. He almost saved those critters... Those critters...
*Heavy sigh*
"Somebody's poisoned the waterhole," he suddenly muttered. With a starting dread, a hint of astonishment, and a hopeless finish.
tbh woody and the roundup gang in a noir-setting doesnt sound so bad.
A bloody crime noir with Woody actually sounds funny
Woody and the round up gang by Quentin Tarantino
Don’t give them ideas 😭😂
Question is, would a Woody's Roundup movie work better?
A story about Woody, Jessie, Bullseye and maybe Stinky Pete with a wild west setting.
Given recent trends? They would find a way to ruin it. Either they would change the lore because "I'm so smart" or they would make it way to serious for what is supposed to be a 90s western aimed at kids. Likely both, while adding some extra pamdering because "how else are we going to sell this?"
But that might just be me being very jaded at the increasingly obvious pandering and soulless remakes/sequels.
I'd watch a fun western for kids with no racism. That's just a good ol time.
Would be good potentially, but with current Disney situation, NO!
@@genericname2747 I'd love that. But alas, modern Disney...
It would sure be nice to a Western for kids in mind again instead of all these dark, downbeat, (and preachy) Westerns people like to make these days.
We get it. The Old West sucked. You can still use the setting for *FUN* every now and then...
And this is what made Andy obsessed with Lightyear? You're telling me a 10-ish kid didn't fall sleep watching it?
Ok...
I can't remember where/who said it, but someone suggested that if this was the movie Andy saw, he probably would've gotten a Sox toy instead
To me they already did the whole "this is the movie andy watched" thing with the Buzz Lightyear series. THAT had them travel and more story and such.
I feel like they dropped the ball with Emperor Zurg. He shouldn’t have been Older Buzz. He should’ve been a conqueror from a different timeline that ran into the other version of Buzz and discovered the power the crystal possessed. Then after using up the crystal to conquer a large portion of the galaxy it ran out of power, and he wanted another to expand his power. Which would give a reasonable explanation to why he went after Buzz.
They also could’ve fed into the aliens that were in Star Command. Make some of the Space Rangers refugees and survivors of Zurg’s conquests. Show how evil Zurg is and why it was imperative for Star Command to stop him from conquering the galaxy at all costs. Maybe humanity hasn’t been affected by Zurg up to this point, but another race of aliens had to flee their home system to escape Zurg. Literally ANYTHING to cement Zurg as a threat and expand the world building.
To me, I feel like it shouldn't have been Zerg at all. I liked what they did with old Buzz and showed how good intentions can lead to horrible consequences when one is too focused on the end goal, but him being an over-the-top villain like Zerg just completely clashes with his motivations and the tone of the film.
Better yet, they should have just called this film anything else. I really like the characters and story, but the Buzz Lightyear branding literally does more to detract from the experience than add to it. It really feels like someone at Pixar had a cool idea for a character-driven timetravel space adventure but then the higher-ups at Disney looked at the word "space" and then forced Pixar's staff into making it a Buzz Lightyear film.
I just realize something, isnt that just the plot of Lego movie 2?
@@---pj1xz Yep.
@@trevordavis6830 do you try to fix Lightyear plot or StarCraft plot?
I'm actually happy this movie didn't perform as well as Disney hoped. Disney has treated most Ips they bought like worthless garbage and now that each one starts to flop, one harder the other they will be forced to treat their Ips better or deal with the repercussions.
The soul reason they put Lightyear on the theaters was because it wasn't an original Ip creation of Pixar but a sequel to an already popular franchise. A safe bet whereas all the other ones where "too dangerous for theaters". I am truly glad to see that all the rest new movies are performing way better than Disneys rotten copy paste philosophy that they adopted once they got too much money on their hands.
Pixar originals and especially Dreamworks and Sony are now the Pioneers of future animation amongs other non Disney companies.
Disney breathes buying IPs and destroying their soul, turning them into safe profitable mutants.
As early as Snow White and Cinderella, all across the "disney renaissance" and well into today as disney bought Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, etc.
@@Sorcerer-SMC you're missing the point. it's not that Disney "won't make good movies ever again", it's just that Disney is now a shit company. Sure, they occasionally make decent movies but they've stopped caring about quality. All they want is to make as much money as possible with all the shit they own now (Marvel studios, star wars....) they're just a big monopoly. They literally don't give a shit anymore, if you want proof just search on youtube.
lps??
@@jdinsomniac7504 Intellectual properties
Well don’t forget Walt Disney Animation Studios, they recently started doing well again with Encanto so hopefully the rest of their upcoming original films will also do good too, so even if The Walt Disney Company has been making a lot of iffy decisions, that doesn’t automatically mean Walt Disney Animation Studios “won’t make anything good ever again”
HUGE missed opportunity to include Mira, Booster, and XR. Can you image how awesome their CG renders would look on the big screen?
When i heard about this movie being made, my first thought was his team getting animated in 3D.
That would be awesome!
...
wait...
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Mira's a red head...
Crap, it's not gonna happen.
Hollywood hates ginger
@@MissMedeiros but.....but wasn't Brave made by Disney/Pixar?
@@KitsuneFyora True, but don't forget that Brave came out ten years ago. We haven't had a natural red-haired protagonist like Merida since then.
@@dreamer24-79 definitely true too. It's a shame because that movie was pretty frickin good
They still could've made the movie human centric, but they ABSOLUTELY needed more aliens. Not only would aliens wouldve put more variety and stakes in this movie, but it serves more closely to how Buzz actually was as a character outside of "Star Command" cartoon. And I say needed, because it was implied that the character of Buzz Lightyear does in fact face off against alien threats when you observe how Buzz the toy acts when he believes he actually is the real Buzz.
Buzz greets everyone saying "I come in peace." And upon being jumped at or spooked instinctually readies his laser.
When you see how he reacts and interacts with the little green men in the first Toy Story movie, you see he's uncertain but kind of also used to seeing different types of alien creatures.
Because of these actions you observe in the toy, we can use context clues to determine Buzz meets both nice and dangerous aliens on a daily basis.
I think it wouldve made sense for the stakes to be Buzz facing off against different kinds of alien threats while saving other species and msking otherwordly allies and his human comrades, then Zurg would serve as the final boss.
This movie honestly had the potential to have the same excitement as the "Halo" games, Buzz going from point A to B while conquering his fears and facing off against actual danger.
Since you were saying the zoomer generation hasn't had much of a theater experience, I feel like sharing mine.
So, I'm a zoomer (gen z, right?) and i absolutely love going to the theaters. Though watching things on streaming services is more convenient, nothing can top going out to the theaters to watch a new movie with some candy, popcorn, and soda while just sitting in a dark room full of chairs with like an hours worth of advertisements. It's just an enjoyable time. My parents would rather for most movies, watch them on streaming services, but every now and then we do go to the theaters. I really love the theaters. I seriously hope theaters will always stick around and not just go away in the future. It's just the greatest experience going to them.
Preach. The last time I've been to a theater is when the mall used it as a waiting room for vaccines. It sucked, I wanna sink in a red velvet chair and drown in my popcorn with good family friends. Giant screen, dark room, sirround sound, who wouldn't want that.
Tbh what Saber is describing is more of a Gen Alpha problem, kids who were born circa 2010 or later, so not a lot of life experience before the pandemic hit.
Yeah. I truly hope the future generation won't let theatres die. That would be very depressing.
My dad is the same way, would rather wait than go to the theater (the man to be fair has a movie theater room in his basement) I rather go to the theater myself especially for a marvel movie opening weekend. Plus for me at least I can avoid spoilers rather. Once it comes out on streaming my dad and I watch it together (I don't mind watching it again lol)
I agree, going to see a movie at the theater is an experience in of itself. It feels like a mini trip or event with the whole set up. It never gets old🧡🍿
It feels modern, even tho its supposed to be an old movie
Personally, they should have made it more like the old cartoon. Even including the blue skinned, red-haired lady would have made this much more interesting.
Exactly! BTW, I haven't watched that movie in a long time, so maybe I should rewatch it soon!
a lil too interesting maybe? or am i projecting
This looks like a more mature space movie that could have had anyone else play the role of Buzz Lightyear, and it could have been a live action film with CGI effects, based on what I could gather from the plot as explained in this review.
Y’know what woulda been cool? If this was a twist where it’s Buzz the toy thinking he’s actually the real Buzz and having these memories of being him but going in and out of realities all “Everything, Everywhere, All at once style”
I love that movie
yeah! finally, a good idea for this movie!
Thanks for spoilers
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Your insight to what will become of movie theaters is so sad to me. 😭 I was a third-generation movie theater manager. My grandparents ran a drive in, my parents met working in theater management, and I did the same job for 4 years. I do hope theaters stay alive. There’s nothing like a cherry coke straight from the fountain and a hot buttered popcorn 💖 my favorite part of the job was walking into theaters to check everything while a movie was going and hearing collective laughter or gasps.
I really really hope they stay alive too! Nothing compares to watching a good movie on the theatre, the entire experience is just special. Brings us together : )
I do love the feeling of going to the theater but goddamn... Inviting friends over to your home, eating not-overpriced popcorn, and having subtitles _available_ is way better
Hollyweird can't die soon enough. It's all about pandering to China and pushing politics now. There is no creativity left.
I have a family that can't get through one movie without watching TikTok and constant conversations. That's part of why I like theaters, they're forbidden from sound and I can actually get through the movie
Theaters aren’t going anywhere. Top Gun is one of the top grossing movies of the year. So Pixar releases a bad movie and everybody thinks theaters are dying cause it’s flopping. Give me a break. 🙄
The problem is that people want to subvert so much that they forget to tell a good coherent story. Focus on that first.
It really starting to show how I’m starting to hate the subversion of expectations. Subverting expectations doesn’t always equal good writing.
Look up red letter media's "Short Film" about subverting expectations, it's a hoot.
Says the Anti-SJW Chud.
Yep, if they want to subvert expectations it still needs to make sense looking back.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 Too many twists makes the brain spin and then it stopsbeing so fun.
And at some point, the twists feel less like challenging the spectator and more like cheating at the last minute to try to sound clever.
I feel like the whole Zerg thing can get retconned in a sequel if they choose to make one. Think about it; Buzz FOUND that ship centuries in the future. For all we know, Zerg could have had his whole empire thing going on and that ship was the remnants. The potential for the next movie could be big if they focus on using that to make Zerg the original unapologetic version AND bring back the whole idea of space rangers with the new suit now. Who knows, maybe future buzz comes back and has his arc to realize things shouldnt change and he helps fight Zerg off.
Whoah! That's a really cool idea! Especially since Zurg meeting evil buzz tracks in the show.
One of my nitpicks about the movie is the fact NOBODY knew the lightspeed formula they started with and spent a lifetime making another one only for it to get blown up.
Oh and also the paradox reveal where somehow he just found an advanced alien ship just sitting unmanned in space.
They didn't have light speed formula until Sox figured it out.
Derelict spaceships are a common sci-fi trope
I thought the formula was for the fuel mixture, which inexplicably never ran out and, I guess, was forgotten by Sox, even though he spent decades working on getting the right formula.
If Sox was able to remember the formula, most of the movie wouldn't happen
Blizzardblast101. I actually saw a comment on RUclips where there was an original zurg somewhere in the universe but abandoned his ship. Maybe there is a real zurg out there
In fairness, the way I interpreted the lightspeed formula was that they only knew how to make with the resources in their home system, not the ones they had access to on the alien planet.
I 100% agree with everything you said in the video, but one thing that really bothered me about the movie was the ending: after the Zurg problem was solved, we discover that Star Command apparently perfected hyperspace travel on their own without Buzz's help, they've reopened the space ranger program with new and better equipment, and they're ready to start again after over forty years, as if nothing in the movie even happened.
For the whole first act, no progress had been made on that technology, Buzz was the only one who wanted to bring the others home, and after Alisha died the new commander immediately shelved the entire project, and Buzz only managed to finish it because a robot therapy cat was more efficient at finding the correct formula than a team of scientists. And after all that, you tell me that everything Buzz and Sox put all that work into was casually achieved off-screen by the same people who didn't care for it in the span of a couple days?!
I have to wonder why they even did that. It destroyed the entire conflict of the movie.
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Exactly, it removes the pathos of the scene when Buzz decides to sacrifice his dream and destroy the crystal. They could have used just five minutes more, something like this: Buzz decides to resign willingly, like at the start of the movie, this time he’s put under arrest, but his effort in destroying Zurg grant him instant parole and a last wish, he only asks to keep Sox and have his friends freed, after some time Sox remembers the formula and tells Buzz about it, Buzz tells the scientists and they are able to replicate it, and then the commander decides to send Buzz back to star command and put him back in the space ranger program, Buzz says he wants his friends there too, and bang, the ending makes more sense.
The Bad Guys had a budget of $70 million, compared to Buzz’s $200 million budget. That’s why their opening numbers are viewed so wildly differently between success and failure.
For a movie to be considered successful it needs to make back at least 2x what it cost to make. So yes, this film is currently a bomb.
They'd need usually double or more just to break even, so out of 400 million $ pressumably, they've only made 1/8 through their opening weekend...which is BAD-BAD.
Movie Journals predicted this movie would gross 160-200 million dollars domestically in its opening weekend but shockingly it only grossed 50 million. That's why it's a bomb and btw it needs atleast 400million dollars to break even
I’m with you on bringing the villains back… We wanna watch these things to escape to unrealistic places, not be reminded our worst enemy is ourselves lol.
YES! Everything you said it was missing! It's a fun, family friendly film that is a little too dark and not something I'd recommend outside of Disney+. I agree really should've dove into campy Sci-Fi fun that would grab kids attention and their imagination. ESPECIALLY for a Toy Story aligned film where Andy's imagination is KEY.
"I get it Pixar. You don't want to be tropey, you don't want to be predictable, you want subvert expectations and have layers to your story."
If all of that gives us something boring and idiotic I'll take all tropes and expectation any movie can give.
Preach it
Nothing wrong with clichés really…as long as you put your own twist to it.
"You don't want to be tropey, you don't want to be predictable" Works when the current trend isn't exactly this lmao. When everyone is avoiding tropes, you become the biggest trope of all.
In other words - made by the folks who brought us Disney Star Wars. [fart emoji]
You know what? Humans are predictable and we have tropes, that’s what makes us human. The struggles we all face give the tropes their value; It’s a matter of how you use them.
I'm so glad I dismissed this out of hand. I knew it would be a slap in the face compared to the Star Command cartoon and my premonition held true.
My first reaction when hearing this was a thing was disappointment that it wasn't an extension of buzz lightyear of star command so I feel you
Man, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command absolutely SLAPS. Sucks to see Disney/Pixar trying to forget about its existence.
Seriously! I had a feeling something would go wrong. Idk the trailer to me felt weird and I had a bad feeling they’d mess up the story once they got near the end….
@@aleisinwndrlen7113 To be fair, they probably just don't care at all one way or the other. It came out over 20 years ago, and the Rule of Demographics is that media has a shelf life of about 7 years. After that, the original age group has grown out of it and the kids that would be the target for it aren't interested in it because "it's old."
I will rather rewatch the opening 3-parter movie from Star Command with Patrick Warburton than this one.
They should have just made a 3d version of Buzz Lightyear of Space Command.
Whats next? Mr. Potato head turns into a detective murder mystery of his wife?
EDIT: I seem to have peaked interest in this half-baked idea.
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I would actually watch that though
As ridiculous as that sounds, I'd actually be interested in watching that
Could be fun
I would actually watch that.
They could have done a campy, fun, early-era space fantasy throwback. Something that a young Andy would have appreciated and wanted.
Instead we got something that wasn't fun, that took itself way too seriously, and that nobody wants.
2020's Pixar is trying to stuff as many bad movies down peples throats as possible. Honestly Pete Doctor shouldn't have the position he does. John Lasseter wouldn't have let this hapen. Peole need to stohating on Lasseter. Sure Onward came out awhile aftr he was forced to leave Pixar, but it came out early enough that he clearly had some hand in it getting approved and part of it was worked on before his leaving. But every movie afterward is Pete Doctor approved, he's the one whose letting all the trash get through. He is effectively Pixar's Kathleen Kennedy.
@@poisonedyoyo Turning Red was good though
I agree with u
@@checkmate6019 I'd say because it was trying to tell an original, personal, and well considered story.
This is just squeezing more milk than the tit accounts for, which only ever just gets you bloody milk that gets turned over for making into chocolate milk. Pardon me, I was raised on a dairy farm.
they did, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
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I saw this movie in theaters with a friend, and we did enjoy it. I do see this criticism though, and i think youre right. It can be a fun movie to watch, but it doesn’t really have the same “spirit” that the original Buzz character has, and the twist villains are… pretty tired, haha. Good video, Saberspark
Honestly, since Buzz is such a pure hearted respectful boyscout in Lightyear, I think his dynamic with Zurg would've worked so much better if Zurg was just an unapologetic monster instead of Buzz but evil. Sure, a black and white goodguy vs badguy story is a bit more generic, but they could've made Lightyear's Zurg one of the scariest villains Pixar's given us in a while. Him crushing Sox and then laughing at Buzz's distress or otherwise mocking his grief would have been such a good villain moment and a heart wrenching loss, but instead it just kind of happens, and since that's just Sox from the bad future and the one we know is still okay it sucks out any emotional weight it could have had. But that's just my opinion.
In the original cartoon Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, Zurg has that kind of personality exaggerated to the point of absurdity for laughs
You actually have a point especially with sox
@@dianethebeauty5092 I agree. If they wanted the lesson that Buzz was just as capable of becoming evil then they should have given him more negative character traits than just his obsession with finishing the mission such as a short temper or general scorn for others which could have been taken to an extreme by his future self. Or they could have instead have had Buzz be the best Space Ranger of all, like in Star Command with Zurg being as evil as sin so as to be his opposite.
@@matityaloran9157 exactly because I definitely think the whole evil buzz thing could've been salvaged but but wasn't written to well
@@dianethebeauty5092 Same
I think, since this movie supposedly came out in the 90s(?) in accordance with toy story lore, the animation should have been appropriately janky. immersion at its finest
@Jurassic World Fac
@Jurassic World you
It’s live action in the toy story universe
also sox would have definitely sold more toys than buzz would have
That would just be stupid, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I have to agree. This movie wasn't what I thought it would be. I mean, it could have been so much more - I mean, look at all the things they did with the animated series. Why did Disney hold back with this?
Disney half asses everything now and the only "risks" they take is going all out on woke stuff lol
It’s Disney dude. They produce crap. And everyone eats up like it’s the new coming of Christ.
@@benmasta5814 True
Because Disney has gone downhill since the 2010s
@@benmasta5814 Wasn't the Buzz in the cartoon the real Buzz Lightyear too?
Not the toy?
"He directed finding Dory"
Okay THAT explains it
They should’ve made it like a cheesy scifi movie with “actors” and “practical effects”
So it’s just a blatant attempt to milk some cash by using Buzz Lightyear’s name? Nothing new I guess
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Ikr so sad
Is it? Judging by the screenshots it looks more than decent imo.
When this came out, we all basically said “well, good luck with that” lmao
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I think one of the reasons this movie is failing is because some general audiences are confused about the premise, the whole premise is basically about the Buzz Lightyear movie that inspired Andy to get a Buzz Lightyear, but obviously that can be confusing for some people who don’t know as much about Toy Story
I don’t know as much about Toy Story. But I felt confident watching as it’s own movie. I believe it’s watchable. Sox was really enjoyable and Chris Evans to me, did a nice job voicing the Legendary Space Ranger.
it also doesnt follow the established cartoon lore. they basically just wrote it off
Honestly the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon was better than this movie, it was a lot more entertaining
@@luckybuckeye2283 Chris Evans did a good job
@@Luxito_DeWarlock that show is amazing
Hit the nail on the head again Sabrespark, I was so unhappy about Lightyear, and you definitely put what I didn't like about the movie into words that I couldn't. Thank you so much man.
Its a bit sad that movies are going straight to streaming. I remember as a kid going to the movies, it always felt like it was seeing another world. Where it was kinda a museum. I now as an adult can't mentally handle movie theaters, I still remember the wonder of it. The theater I went to as a kid always had this giant memorabilia of 80's to 90's movies. It was breathtaking to me as a kid. I also just loved how movie theaters made you jump into the movie, with the big screen and dark lights, its just you and the movie. As a kid who loved cartoons and art, my biggest thing was seeing animated movies. It was mind blowing to me.
I hope movie theaters can jump back, but idk
movie theaters suck and this isn’t available to stream on D+ yet so what nonsensical point were you trying to make?
@@alexisburrows3171 Wasn't really trying to make a point, just a silly ramble and thoughts
@@squiidly818 don’t listen to that person. Some people love to talk trash to others just to get their kicks.
Good movies do well like Top Gun Maverick. Not trash ones like lightyear.
@@alexisburrows3171 eventually it will
They should have just did a movie based off the cartoon AND they could have gotten bonus nostalgia points.
Dreams get crushed too this sucks
Then people will complain about how it's using nostalgia as a cash grab.
@@angelinacamacho8575
And what's so wrong about that?
No Way Home made it work
That works on Top Gun Maverick....
@@megabuster3940
To be fair, nostalgia bait can be bad too, because it will create comparison between the old and new, and help highlight many flaws.
Also when over used, it can be just boring just like the over used of fanservices, specially since both tactics are heavily used to try and hide big flaws with the project. Happened with Star Wars, I can assure you that if you remove all the fanservice scenes from say “Book of Boba Fett”, specially the finale and I can assure you that many would hate the series.
So no, nostalgia is good thing to use some time, but when you are Disney and that is your one trick pony, don’t be surprise to see people seeing right through it.
I've loved Zurg for years, and seeing he was in this movie made me hyped to watch it almost every day. Now I wished that I could see from the start what they would do to him.
Me too buddy me too…
What a disappointment
I also didn't like his design
I was hoping he was buzz's dad but nooo.
He's just a future buzz :(
@@wankawanka3053 I liked the new design from a visual standpoint, but it doesn’t make sense considering this is the film Andy watched as a kid, which still doesn’t make sense.
@@maxwellthehedgehog6273 I think there wasn’t a way to make him being buzz’s father make sense, but at least it made way more sense than future buzz.
Christ..... just realized the green 3 eyed Aliens were not in this movie... 😢
Sad to hear, because it seemed like Pixar was wanting this to be their GREATEST FILM yet...
"A movie about the character Buzz Lightyear, about the character he's based on." Right, that is a cool and creative idea! So cool and creative that *they already did it over a decade ago with the animated series!* This film was obsolete upon conception.
I remember when my dad first told me about this movie, I told him that it already existed. He showed me the trailer, and I realized that I got it mixed up with the animated series that you just mentioned.
@@sodkfniw2669 Still can’t get over the fact that Buzz was played by Kronk in that show 😂 not that I mind, hell I actually liked it.
@@anthonyhack1164 Did Kronk exist back then? I can't believe I was so young when the Emperor's New Groove r eleased
When you think about it, all of the most rememorable villains are the ones who don't have a dark back story or a reason to their evil, especially Disney villains. Scar, Ursula, Gaston, Cruella de Vil, even Frollo. They are evil just for the fun of it, and I think for that reason they aren't limited by morals or anything. It makes them a ton of more fun. I wish they did that with Zurg.
They did in the show, Buzz lightyear of star command!
eh, there's a place for the more complex villains sometimes
@@fiona9891 true! But not all the time.
Tbh shows with both the “dark backstory” villains and the “fuck it” villains are the best.
Great insight, but I'd like to point out Frollo isn't evil because it is "fun", Frollo is evil because he genuinely thinks he is "righteously" above everyone else, including God. He doesn't consider what he does fun, he just convinces himself that what he is doing is religiously right. He is evil because he refuses to acknowledge he is evil, like many real life villains would. All of the other villains you listed were aware they were evil, even Scar referring to his plan as a "scam" in Be Prepared; Frollo just refuses to see that he is evil, even going as far as explaining that his lust for Esmeralda was because God's plan was to "make the devil so much stronger than a man". Frollo has reason, but it isn't a morally good reason